Installed new RAM, now I'm underperforming and crashing | Linus Tech Tips | Page 1

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 1:51 PM

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Bought another 16gb of corsair vengeance lpx, and now it's taking a considerable amount of time to boot. I disabled XMP and reenabled it, which led to bootloops. I'm now stuck on recovery mode, and don't know what to do to resolve. Bios screen reads the correct amount of ram when I can get to it.

pulsar ravine Oct 17, 2022, 2:00 PM

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Did you try to reseat the ram

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 2:08 PM

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Haven't cracked her open yet but you know that's gonna be my next step if disabling XMP doesn't do it

pulsar ravine Oct 17, 2022, 2:12 PM

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Yeah highly recommend trying that

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And if just reseating doesnt help try different slots if there is any

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 2:13 PM

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Just reseated. Let's see how she does

pulsar ravine Oct 17, 2022, 2:13 PM

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Good luck

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 2:16 PM

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No dice

thorny briar Oct 17, 2022, 2:17 PM

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heady jasper Bought another 16gb of corsair vengeance lpx, and now it's taking a considerable...

windows recovery mode?

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 2:18 PM

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Yep. Only thing I haven't tried is a system reset

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Which I guess I can do but gosh that's a pita

pulsar ravine Oct 17, 2022, 2:23 PM

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Try windows memory diagnostic

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Not sure if thats any better or worse than memtest but worth a shot

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 2:24 PM

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Resetting rn. If I still have problems I'm calling the dimms lemons and going back to 16gb

pulsar ravine Oct 17, 2022, 2:29 PM

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The memory diagnostic'll test if its faulty too

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 3:18 PM

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Can installing ram brick your OS normally? Because I got a techie buddy who says that sounds about right

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Or is this windows shenanigans

fringe blaze Oct 17, 2022, 3:47 PM

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You combined the new RAM with the old RAM? Are they the exact same model/speed/timings?

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 3:49 PM

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Yessir

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Both are vengeance lpx 3200mhz

fringe blaze Oct 17, 2022, 3:50 PM

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What about the timings? Those are not the only specs important to RAM compatibility

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Also, there's a reason why lots of people here tell folks to avoid Vengeance ram

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 3:51 PM

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The boxes for both batches of ram are the exact same

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Yeah I'm starting to understand that lol

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But reset just finished we'll see if she boots now

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She's posting and installing!

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Okay so vengeance ram can just brick your copy of windows good to know

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Idk if this is a corsair moment or a Microsoft moment

fringe blaze Oct 17, 2022, 3:54 PM

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heady jasper The boxes for both batches of ram are the exact same

I hate to be pedantic but "the boxes are the same" means different things to different people.
There should be a series of four numbers (referred to as timings) that could look like 16-18-18-36 these should be the same on both boxes/sticks of RAM

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If the timings are not the same, odds are you'll see more instability in the future

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 3:58 PM

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Yeah I don't pretend to be savvy in ram, but the timings are both the same

fringe blaze Oct 17, 2022, 3:58 PM

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Installing new ram can do this sometimes. The BIOS needs to "re-train" the ram which can result in boot loops

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 3:59 PM

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I'll chalk it up to a fluke but if it gives me problems in the future I'll just get some ripjaws

heady jasper Oct 17, 2022, 4:35 PM

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Okay xmp 2 is enabled no issues. Thanks for the tips though! If anything else happens I'll just drop the vengeance and get some better ram

fringe blaze Oct 17, 2022, 4:38 PM

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Yeah this happens with all kinds of ram. Sometimes when you install new sticks, you need to install them one at a time to let the motherboard train each one individually

thorny briar Oct 17, 2022, 4:52 PM

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heady jasper Can installing ram brick your OS normally? Because I got a techie buddy who says...

your OS only sees the amount of RAM, it doesn't care about anything else, so it shouldn't do that

thorny briar Oct 17, 2022, 4:53 PM

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fringe blaze Installing new ram can do this sometimes. The BIOS needs to "re-train" the ram w...

on 2016- AMD systems the CPU trains the memory automatically

fringe blaze Oct 17, 2022, 4:54 PM

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thorny briar on 2016- AMD systems the CPU trains the memory automatically

I have a 5950X and have had the same thing happen. Installing ram one at a time resolved things.