peripherals

[analog gyro]

C series aren't worth it. There are so many better options by switching brands

[spark hatch]

what boards? I like the c series

[analog gyro]

The K-series can be worth, but even with those I would generally say to go with other brands.

C1 is what $50?

[spark hatch]

c series is 40$

c1

c2 is 50 I believe

[analog gyro]

RK61 would be better, that's $50

[spark hatch]

thats a 60%

[analog gyro]

He didn't say anything about layout, just asked about best budget keychron

[spark hatch]

oh, I didnt realise we were referring to him, yea rk61 would be better value for money

but you cant really compare a 40$ tkl to a 60%

[analog gyro]

There's a few others on Aliexpress that are around the $30-50 for TKL kit, but we don't reallyy know his budget

Nor do we know what size he wants so

[spark hatch]

Id get a keychorn c1 over a no name ali board

[analog gyro]

You realize like 90% of keyboard brands have a Aliexpress store? lol

[vagrant blade]

whats a keyboard with a good tactile bump and thock

[spark hatch]

yea?

[analog gyro]

You're not really going to get a prebuilt that meet those criteria. If you are interested in it you can go the custom route

[analog gyro]

So why shit on AliExpress then? lol

[spark hatch]

or you could swap swiches in a prebuilt with hotswap

[vagrant blade]

so then is there any specific switches i should get?

[spark hatch]

I didnt? I jsut said no name boards

yes theres decent no name boards, but its always a gamble

[analog gyro]

There's more than just a switch that defines the sound, but are you looking for a switch with pretravel (A bit of travel before the bump) or no pretravel (bump at the top)?

[analog gyro]

I wasn't really talking about no name tho, just less known brands

[vagrant blade]

no pretravel

[spark hatch]

ok, so then what did say that made it look like I was shitting on ali

[analog gyro]

Ok, I am a tactile guy myself so my recommendations are Boba U4T, Zeal Zealios V2 or if you're on a budget the JWK T1

The T1 does have a bit of a leaf ping tho

[analog gyro]

I think it was just a misunderstanding from my side

[spark hatch]

holy pandas are popular, akko lavenders are a cheaper option, boba ut4's are nice but ive never personally used them

[analog gyro]

The Boba U4T's are nice, but I didn't like them for gaming personally, especially spacebar felt weird af. I am currently using the Zealios V2

[spark hatch]

ah

I'm making the switch to linear soon, currently using kenetic labs penguins

[analog gyro]

As for TKL kit the FL-Esports MK870 is at $55, often gets discounted below 40 tho

[analog gyro]

"Switch" nice pun

[spark hatch]

that wasnt even intended lmao

[analog gyro]

How do you like the penguins btw? Seen them around, but never tried them

[spark hatch]

I personally really like them, do have alittle spring crunch tho

I like the feel tho

sound is eh, not amazing, not bad

[analog gyro]

I personally don't really care too much about sound considering I have heaphones on 24/7 lol

The springping in the Zealios v2 / Zilents v2 (before lubing) was unbearable tho.
Fixed once I gave them a good lubejob

[spark hatch]

yea thats fair, I dont really eaither, I mean i dont like a bad sounding board but I dont care about pitch too much

[spark hatch]

ah

[analog gyro]

Oh yea I can't stand a horrible sounding board either. I usually just try to get them as silent as possible

Without compromising on the feel ofc

Speaking of horrible sounding, the board I'm working on atm. Needs polyfill tho, and I have ran out so waiting on Amazon

[spark hatch]

ah yea

[analog gyro]

Time for the worst part of a new build

[swift forge]

I mean those that have barely any pre-travel despite having a bit are Kailh Speeds, within 1mm of travel

Tactile Kailh Speed Coppers have 1.2mm of pre-travel

[analog gyro]

Thst's not the same, that is the actuation point

We were talking about bump pre-travel or not

[spark hatch]

^

[swift forge]

Oh :-:

[rain pelican]

Ik this is the keyboard chat but maybe its worth a shot asking here:
hey so im having a problem with my GPro x Superlight. Today it decided to not work. It took a moment of fiddling around to realize that the problem is with the wireless dongle since it works in wired mode. I've followed several youtube videos on the issue and I cant get my dongle to be recognized within the pairing software for logitech. So I am wondering what else I can do. I uninstalled the stuff for mouse and pointers and restarted the pc and that didnt work. I have also fully charged the mouse. I also have attempted seeing if it worked on another pc which it doesnt.

[swift forge]

Hmm I have a GPX Superlight too. The dongle for it appears to have a bit of its silicon chipped on some units, so you notice anything like this looking under the exterior?

Like the green mini PCB inside the small housing, mine appears to be chipped but not to the point where it has cut off a circuit. Maybe yours did get chipped from rough insertion and the dongle died

This is worse case scenario though.

[swift forge]

Have you been using any indirect USB connections? Like via a port hub

If so maybe try with a native USB-A connection directly into a motherboard I/O pane and see if that solves the issue

[rain pelican]

for the last month ive been out of town so ive been having it directly into the laptop

[swift forge]

Or change a port on your hub

Do you have more than one USB-A port?

Try another

[rain pelican]

yes

ive even tried another laptop

wont work

[swift forge]

Look in the housing

Is there like an irregular white border around what seems to be part of the PCB in there?

Like somethings been chipped off

are there burn marks around the housing? Like near the connectors

does the mouse work normally without the software running in the background?

[rain pelican]

it looks fine to me

[swift forge]

Not to make you feel stupid, but are you using the right dongle :p

[rain pelican]

yes

its the only dongle i have

[swift forge]

With the PRO X lettering?

oh ok then

[rain pelican]

yea its the gpx one

[swift forge]

Does it work without the software?

like without being recognised does the mouse perform normally

[rain pelican]

i havent taken it out since ive been on this trip so i doubt i damaged some thing on insertion

[swift forge]

^

[rain pelican]

nope

wont work on my laptop which has the logitech hub software. wont work on a laptop that doesnt have it

[swift forge]

Are you sure you turned on the mouse

just saying since even I forget

[rain pelican]

its pretty annoying since i was using the mouse fine yesterday, just turned on my pc today and it didnt work

yeah

its on

[swift forge]

does the mouse itself have battery?

[rain pelican]

i can tell on the led that its responding to my movement

[swift forge]

Oh

[swift forge]

Wait wait wait

You move it and the led shows it’s on?

[rain pelican]

like when i insert the dongle it doesnt even make the sound on windows for when a device is connected

yea

[swift forge]

Oh

[rain pelican]

its green

ill go idle, the led will turn off and then turn on when i move the mouse

[swift forge]

Well I have only one solution now

Use it wired only :p

[rain pelican]

yeah its unfortunate

gotta find a solution for the dongle

[swift forge]

Maybe find a paracord cable for sale so it’s not as low quality

[rain pelican]

ill look around, kinda sucks i wont be able to work it wireless. i think ill try to bake the pcb when i get back to see if that does anything

[swift forge]

Incest in custom cabling, try PS/2

[rain pelican]

cuz at this point it feels helpless

[swift forge]

I have a sort of solution for you

Apart from wired

Get ready to buy aftermarket feet tho

[rain pelican]

mhm

[swift forge]

Grab a hairdryer, set to max settings and melt off the stock feet

It’ll reveal screws that you can undo to take off the top shell

And reveal the mouse’s circuitry inside

See if there’s anything visibly off

I’ll try find a labelled diagram of a mouse PCB to help you spot the wireless controller

This is kinda risky, but you won’t be messing with things so it’s a lot safer then trying to fix it yourself

[rain pelican]

ahh that might not be an option since im only out of town for 12 days, my gpx isnt my daily driver when i game usually

[swift forge]

Oh

[rain pelican]

its my travel mouse

[swift forge]

Welp it’s within reach at home, no?

[rain pelican]

true

worth a shot

[swift forge]

You could buy off Amazon some Corepads or Teflon which are great PTFE choices

[rain pelican]

i could also just return on amazon if possible and just grab a new one

[swift forge]

Another option is Tiger Ice

[rain pelican]

ive been debating on new skates, but i use an artisan hien and its super fast as it is

[swift forge]

I mean it’s best to try fix it so you know what to face on a replacement model if it fails again

[rain pelican]

true true

[swift forge]

I’ve minimised the risks, didn’t tell you to desolder and solder yet

[swift forge]

Hence the PTFE skates, and not telling you to get glass or ceramic

I remember hearing Corepads being similar to stock, so it won’t be that much of a difference

[swift forge]

This = Elo hell in Valorant

Except it’s smurfing platinum players

aim.exe does not exist or has been deleted

[rain pelican]

so ive missed the return and suport window with amazon

let me see what logitech can do

[swift forge]

Mouse PCB diagram, I believe the centre is the wireless chip, the USB MCU since the Superlight is USB wireless

@rain pelican

I’ll link you optimum techs vid on upgrading mouse switches too, he tells you how to remove the shell

[rain pelican]

yeah thats a whole thing that sounds fun but lowkey hell to deal with

dont want to go down the mouse mod rabbit hole, spend too much money on kb stuff as it is ;-;

[swift forge]

Mhm, so I’ll save you the searching by giving you time stamps too :))

https://youtu.be/f3ZFqZbTnL4 @rain pelican

2:17 to 2:50

He’s upgrading a Superlight too

Same mouse, and virtually the same process, but we’re not voiding warranty by desoldering mouse switches like he will

[swift forge]

Also don’t be distracted by the image shown here, you’ll be looking at the underside of the mouse where we can actually see the MCU

Sorry for rapid ping but I don’t know how many messages you’d need to scroll up of once the kb enthusiasts enter

[rain pelican]

lol its all good, ill learn a lot and maybe have a better mouse than what i started with

[swift forge]

Lol

starts expending all income on Kailh and Huano switches and buying tons of mice to experiment with

||in the case you’re already down that rabbit hole most people mod the Superlight main switches with Kailhs as Opt did here, but if they have some cash to burn they buy TTC Golds||

[limpid furnace]

Can you lube keyboards with Vaseline? Ping me if you do answer 🙂

[austere spire]

Theoretically yes, but not recommended

[ionic briar]

i would say no in most cases
vaseline is petroleum based, and petroleum based lubricants degrade a lot of thermoplastic, which most keyboard components are made of

[crimson isle]

isn't it also kinda... uhm...
thick and sticky

[analog gyro]

You don't want to use anything except Krytox or Trybosis for switches

[crimson isle]

I only use vaseline on wounds, lel

[unkempt dome]

only use vaseline for the car

[crimson isle]

for liquid cooling loop

[unkempt dome]

no, to stop it from rusting

[crimson isle]

petroleum jelly based window cleaning

[limpid furnace]

So Vaseline is safe for lips, but not for plastic?

🤣

Cause I have a membrane keyboard. I wanna make it quieter, and if you lube the keys it’s quieter and smoother. Can you use dielectric grease?

[unkempt dome]

yes you can

[limpid furnace]

What’s a good brand for keyboard tools

[chilly perch]

Tools !?

[limpid furnace]

Yes

Like a brand that makes good key caps puller and stuff

[latent blaze]

its not very complex of a tool, most just use whatever comes with their keeb or keycaps or whatever

[latent blaze]

Im not an expert on membrane keybs but i cant imagine lubing membrane switches would make much of a difference if its even rly possible

[limpid furnace]

I heard the one that comes standard on mech keyboards suck

[latent blaze]

i mean

Depends what keyboard you buy?

akko keycaps come with a great puller iirc

but its kinda hard to fk up

like the plastic circle with two prongs type is perfectly fine

[urban panther]

It's great but unfortunately doesn't fit in my keychron Q3 lol

[limpid furnace]

Oh alright, do you suggest like a switch and key cap holder so you can lube them?

[night crater]

Whats the best liner mechanical keyboard for ~$80

[chilly perch]

I prefer using the plastic pullers

But when u have a top plate sometimes u need wire ones

For f keys and stuff that are surrounded

[night crater]

Whats the best liner mechanical keyboard for ~$80

Excuse me answer please

[limpid furnace]

How do you know when you needa relube the keys and switches?

[limpid furnace]

Wait bruh

[night crater]

Answer

[swift forge]

You know, getting one takes a day or two here

[swift forge]

liner keyboard no exist

you mean linear?

[night crater]

Its a quiet keyboard

[swift forge]

At that price point you can purchase the Pulsar PCMK

which is barebones, then install your own switches

[night crater]

Oh

Whats the price

[swift forge]

hold on

I know its £64 but not sure in USD

[night crater]

But us it liner

Or even mechanical

[swift forge]

yes

you install mechanical switches

its $69 nice

[night crater]

Does it come with the switchs

[swift forge]

ni

[night crater]

Switchs

[swift forge]

no*

lemme see how expensive gateron reds are brb

[night crater]

K

[swift forge]

well a pack of 65 pcs of Gateron Red switches, one of the cheaper linear types will set you back $29

but you'll need to buy another 22, since its a TKL board which requires 87 keys to slot in all of the sockets

oh well, nvm this is going outta budget

[night crater]

But do you know a different keyboard which you don’t have install switchs

[swift forge]

Keychron C1 is reliable

but you'll have to pay extra

for shipping

[night crater]

I know but installing keys caps are hard

[swift forge]

yea

that thing has keycaps on it

the C1

[swift forge]

I mean I just use my thumb to push them onto the switches, not really

[latent blaze]

Just get whatever keychron is in your budget and layout

then select reds

Installing keycaps is literally just putting then on the stems

Like you need no tools

Minimal force

[lapis vessel]

Finally got my custom keyboard for work

And this is it's cable, yes that's a usb-c to ps/2 cable

The switches are cherrymx greens because i like them

[unkempt dome]

French Canadian iso

[cobalt canyon]

I like clicky switches and I’m looking to get a kailh: box white, box jade or pro yellow…. Any 100% keyboards with those switches on them? I looked at one site they were all sold out.

[ionic briar]

Hexgears keyboards sell on kono.store has box white options

[lapis vessel]

Yea ... Suck to be stuck in QC

At least full size enter key!

[grizzled quiver]

Ik this is like keyboards and stuff but I’ve got a mouse question. The stock Omron switches in my G703 has the tendency to double click on a single click. So it is worth it to swap the mouse switches for a different one? (Currently looking at the Kailh GM 2)

And I know how to solder and whatnot.

[ionic briar]

yes
tho i recommend you switching to the japanese omron instead
since the root of the double click problem is the fact that the switches are being oxidated by the current feed by the microcontroller

and partly the rather inadequate contact point thickness

[grizzled quiver]

I see

[grizzled quiver]

Maybe an Amazon link to those switches please?

[ionic briar]

https://www.amazon.com/Japan-Subminiature-Switch-Logitech-SteelSeries/dp/B00HZBR4UG

[grizzled quiver]

Thanks!

[ionic briar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5BhECVlKJA&t=11s
rip from this video essay explaining the reason why modern mouse double click so fast

[grizzled quiver]

Aight, I’ll definitely be looking into it!

[ionic briar]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0062WNDLI/

or this one

basically you are looking for omron d2f-01f microswitches

that should be enough for amazon search to figure out

[grizzled quiver]

I see

[blazing birch]

What's the best keyboard ~$80

[tepid hound]

can anyone recommend keycaps for a 80% keyboard mac and windows compatibility preferrably

[latent blaze]

keychron c1 is good

[latent blaze]

check out akkos keycaps

[tepid hound]

I was thinking smth cheap as I already bought the k8 which was like $120 USD so that already put a hole in my wallet 😭

and I have to get a mouse as well

[latent blaze]

theres solid caps on aliexpress in that case

[tepid hound]

yeah I was going through there

[latent blaze]

find something that you like

[tepid hound]

I am looking for 80% specifically so do I get full sized and use keycaps I need

or look for 80% specifically

[latent blaze]

just get a set that has enough caps

104 is most common

[tepid hound]

got it

[latent blaze]

youll need at least like 90 something

[tepid hound]

94 I think?

[unkempt dome]

don't you have a short right shift for 80% ?

[chrome raft]

Rk61 gateron yellow lubed switches with custom keycapz

Oh

80%

Ohk

60% you have a full rs

So

[chrome raft]

Glourouis lube

[night crater]

What's the best keyboard ~$80

[tepid hound]

I am not sure

[tepid hound]

c1 specced out

if you wanna raise that budget to 90 I would say k8

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c1-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32321247248473

spec I would get for c1

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32018253054041

spec I would get for k8

[tawny gulch]

any keycap recommendations to go with a black vega? planning to build a setup around the vega

[swift forge]

POG Wooting Two HE and 60HE have released

Former is apparently hotswap but only with Gateron Lekker switches

[spark hatch]

nice

[spark hatch]

no best, what are your requirements for a keyboard

[molten sinew]

Steelseries apex pro opinions

[lofty mason]

its definitely a keyboard

[urban glade]

gmk wob lol

[lyric plaza]

you can definitely build one with that price

also the main selling point which is faster actuation is not that great since you will mostly press down deeper anyway

[molten sinew]

You can change how deep you have to press

[molten sinew]

• I got it a lot cheaper than usual

[lyric plaza]

since you already bought it why ask now?

[molten sinew]

Why not?

[spark hatch]

meh, personally would never get it but some people want the adjustable switches (which i think is more of a gimmick but thats just my opinion 🙂 )

[molten sinew]

Ok

[spark hatch]

hope you're happy with it

[lyric plaza]

not that much difference in actual practice tbh

[molten sinew]

Me too 😆

[unkempt dome]

You can change how deep you have to press, you will press deeper than that anyway

It's a marketing gimmick and the end result is that most of the time people actuate key they don't want to when they put the actuation distance too far up so they just lower it down to close to normal point

[crimson isle]

just make it so low you trigger it by breathing

and become a breathe typist

[thick kestrel]

What in your opinions is the best keyboard switch

Mine is the boba LT

[unkempt dome]

I like the akko lavender purple a lot

And also the tecsee carrot

Now I'm using the knc red jacket

[latent blaze]

I like box royals, but boba u4 and gat ink blacks are also good imo, tho i haven’t tried too many switches so

[tepid nymph]

hey guys~

is there is a name for a keyboard that is small , Like the buttons are small and their height is minimal like laptop buttons and would also come with the numpad? I have a big bulky keyboard for my pc and honestly its great for gaming but I just feel awkward when writing code...

[unkempt dome]

https://www.amazon.com/HP-USB-Slim-Business-Keyboard/dp/B01BQ8S45M/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3228E020BWZ6S&keywords=hp+low+profile+keyboard&qid=1657540504&sprefix=hp+low+%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-3

Cheap, low quality, feels terrible like a laptop keyboard

But that fits the description

[latent blaze]

logitech mx keys might also fit that

Do you just mean like scissor switches?

[tepid nymph]

I just meant the general name for them, I guess it's slim?

[latent blaze]

lowprofile, ultra low profile

[tepid nymph]

I just want a keyboard that I could reach everything on except for the numpad with one hand and be fast with it, for example on my laptop I could type real fast because the buttons are slim and close to each other while (now) on my pc, although i also type fast i just stagger between words

Thank you guys!

[latent blaze]

maybe look into smaller layouts like 40% or 60%

[tepid nymph]

what does the % mean? size?

[latent blaze]

Yes

60% of the normal amount of keys

so like no numpad or function row but its overall smaller

[toxic condor]

Where is mouse channel?

[opaque shard]

@tepid nymph This is fantastic for coding

It's my keyboard that I use for writing and coding

[spark hatch]

Looks nice

I like the open pcb look

[latent blaze]

Been wanting to try out a split ergo keyb like that

1 where do you get one prebuilt for cheapish, 2 looks diy, whered u get the pcb and components etc

[opaque shard]

I designed this on my own, ordered the finished design from JLCPCB

The components I got from splitkb.com

idk where to get a prebuilt one tbh

Most of them are gonna need some manual soldering of components

[latent blaze]

Thanks!

[urban panther]

that looks super cool, but also makes my brain hurt

[spark hatch]

just ask here, there isnt one

or #build-a-pc

[drifting quiver]

Any decently cheap keyboard that are on the nicer side?

[urban panther]

look into keychron

[drifting quiver]

Kk thanks!

[spark hatch]

what features you want?

and what size?

[junior fiber]

What's the DIY Keyboard Scene in here like? Anyone pick up a QK65?

[spark hatch]

I dont personally have one, but I''m sure someone here has one. and I've heard very good things about it

[junior fiber]

Yeah, just curios what the DIY Scene is like here on the LTT Discord

[spark hatch]

basically all the active peeple here are into customs

or at least higher end prebuilts/barebone kits like akko or keychron q series

[urban panther]

love my keychron q3

but the "group buy" aspect for a lot of the high end custom boards and keycaps just ain't for me

[lyric plaza]

well you can build or buy a prebuilt

also building one is really expensive unless you get ktt or akko switches

[spark hatch]

switches arent that expensive?

[lyric plaza]

there are budget switches

and there are those over the top ones that people talk about

[junior fiber]

Yeah, I have a real problem - will be at 14 boards at the end of the month if my Akko ACR Alice Pro ships!

[junior fiber]

My first board was an Idabao ID80 that I had a friend build

the first board I "built" was the Akko ACR75

put switches in, add keycaps

very noob friendly lol

[sand scarab]

What's the name of the keyboard that's light blue and light pink?

[junior fiber]

The one at the very front? That's the Akko ACR75

[swift forge]

What’s the board that’s black and pink?

I love 75-ish keebs

[opaque shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481054362546733066/996347678994731058/20220712_112906.jpg

Height difference between MX, Choc V1, Choc Mini and Choc X

[polar condor]

where is Chonk-e

[storm scaffold]

you get the large nk switch.

from NKs store

[drifting quiver]

Nothing special. Preferable the cheaper the better but I would like a full size keyboard with a num pad

[crimson isle]

is there a working keyboard?, lol

[storm scaffold]

nope, but theres that crazy chinese redragon k556 supersized

idk what the name is

[silk moat]

Evga z20

Who makes stabilizers for the z20?

[spark hatch]

Keychron c2 or any akko board

[junior fiber]

Exploded 75 is probably my favorite layout. I wanted to buy a Hope 75X quite badly

[storm scaffold]

i do not know, but just get the same type of stab

doesnt need to be the same manu

[tepid hound]

does anyone know if keychron price matches

I bought a keyboard like 2 days ago and it was 89.10 but now same keyboard is like 69.10

I dont wanna cancel and reorder cuz it shipped and shipping it back will cost more money

[boreal rivet]

why don't you email them to ask

[tepid hound]

I already did

but I doubt they will respond in time lmao

the sale is only for 2 days I think

[boreal rivet]

so do you think they'll be able to reply in time to process the price match?

[boreal rivet]

if they did do price matches

[tepid hound]

thats why I am asking here

[boreal rivet]

no see, even if we told you they would price match, if you think they won't reply in time to your enquiry, then whats the point?

[tepid hound]

who knows they might price match because I contacted them during the sale

and who knows maybe someone has had a similar exp and can tell me a way to contact em faster

doesnt hurt to ask

[junior aspen]

RGB Keyboard, mouse and mousepad under 150$ anyone?

[latent blaze]

Do you want the actual mousepad to be rgb, like the edges have lights or just the keyb and mouse?

if no rgb pad then rk84 (or rk61, etc based on what size you want) and depending on how much rgb you want either glorious mode I or D or whatever the new one is or hyperx pulsefire haste /haste wireless if you want no wire, ltt store mousepad

[drifting quiver]

Kk thanks!

[latent blaze]

also mice and keyb are very subjective so based on hand size and weight preference you might prefer g502 hero, razer viper mini, or something else

Then also for the rk84 its on sale for prime day for cheap which is why i mention

[latent blaze]

2. There is a brown, blue, and red switch option. This refers to the type of switch it uses red is linear meaning it goes down smoothly when you press it, brown is tactile which means theres a tactile “bump” halfway through a full press to indicate that the switch actuated, and blue is clicky which means it has a similar bump to tactile but at that bump there is a loud audible “click” noise

[junior aspen]

Pad too if possible

I would want razer, logitech, asus. A well known company

[latent blaze]

Oh shoot keychrons got a gcrazy sale too

[latent blaze]

I know that feelin but imma level with you rk84/61 and keychron kX keyboards are better than any keeb those companies will ever make

keychron is super well known in the budget-enthusiast category

[latent blaze]

Not too knowledgeable on that but you can probably get like a 15-30$ one on amazon thats the right size

i would not spend more than that tho cuz its a scam at that point

[pale garnet]

hello

anyone available ?

[bitter oar]

Almost no support at all.

Yeah, the keyboard r great themselves.

[bitter oar]

Glorious gmmk2 also ins’t a bad option.

[spark hatch]

They're support is fine

Gmmk2 is pretty meh in my opinion but it's fine ig

[spark hatch]

Sure, whatcha looking for

[pale garnet]

So I’m thinking about selling my Logitech G915 TKL and buy a cheaper copy version of it which is redragon horus tkl. The reason why I want to sell it is because the G915 tkl still uses micro usb and its keycaps are rare-ish and fragile so if I pull it out hard, it will damage it, and the keycaps rattles when I shake the keyboard even a little bit, also i need funds

and the redragon horus tkl uses type C and is hotswap and its keycaps are easy to find

[spark hatch]

I have a better suggestion, look at keychrons low profile options

Otherwise I completely agree and understand wanting to sell g915

But I personally would get a keychron, not reddragon

[pale garnet]

how come?

I mean im not really gonna do some hardcore custom keyboard stuff

[spark hatch]

Better build quality, better stabilizers, over all higher quality materials

[pale garnet]

Im just looking for a cheaper low profile wireless kb

oh and media buttons

i use them hehe

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-se-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39652026613849

[pale garnet]

yes but it costs +$30 here

that’s $80 and the redragon horus tkl is $50

[spark hatch]

If that's a deal breaker you have very few options, go with the red dragon ig

[spark hatch]

Fair, yea it was jsut a suggestion. But if media keys are a must have for you don't really have any other option (that ik of)

[pale garnet]

this one that looks identical to the g915 tkl

[spark hatch]

Gotcha

[pale garnet]

so yeah is it like worth selljng it?

im trying to sell it for $120, is that okay or should i lower it to $100

I got it for $260 2 years ago

[pale garnet]

and now the brand new price for it is $180

[spark hatch]

Personally I would say yes.i hated my g915

[pale garnet]

ooh why?

did you sell it?

[spark hatch]

Rattle keycaps, rattlely stabs, hard to find keycaps and replacement switches

Also didn't really like the rubber buttons on the top, they would never push down nice, like you'd push on them and only half the button would go down

[spark hatch]

Nah, I Jsut have it to a friend

[pale garnet]

cool cool

[pale garnet]

same problems

I mean I love my g915 but

Im just worried that someday it might stop working and I cant find switches for it

or keycaps

[spark hatch]

I mean I did too until I got into custom kb's then there were jsut so many flaws I couldn't get over

[spark hatch]

You can find switches semi easily, and I'm pretty sure you can get kaycaps for it from Amazon

[pale garnet]

ooh cool cool… I will custom my redragon horus tkl too if i get one

[spark hatch]

What were you gonna do?

Just curious

[pale garnet]

and if i hated the default switches which is red linear

[pale garnet]

honestly just switches lol

[spark hatch]

What switches were you gonna get? There's not many low profile switches out there

[pale garnet]

Ion wanna get into custom keyboard hobby yet. Another reason why Im selling my G915 is so that i could have money for my other hobbies (collecting figurines and skateboarding)

[pale garnet]

I found one from keychron although im not sure if it will work since it’s an optical mx switch

[spark hatch]

No it wouldnt, it'd have to be a mechanical switch not optical

Unless the red dragon is optical

[pale garnet]

oh, then it wouldnt

and also, how much do you think i should sell my g915 tkl?

it has no issues and not that heavily used

[latent blaze]

Honestly like 50$ proba

Check sold ebay prices tho

[pale garnet]

whA

that… is too cheap

oh wow it is around 50

$45-89

damn… I bought it for like $260 :((

[swift forge]

Well you can never go wrong with Pulsar's Xlite Wireless V2, even if they're a tad smaller

its known throughout the mouse community, have a look for yourself

ASUS on the other hand, if you really want a keyboard from them the ROG Falchion's not bad, full size try the Strix Flare II

RGB mousepad, you could go with a Razer Firefly

or a goliath, or gigantus which have their RGB variants

[misty crypt]

i finally have a numpad again

[bitter oar]

This is actualy intresting idea.

[bitter oar]

I like gmmk2 cuz of the 1800 layout, almost compact as a tkl with a numpad. Build quality is strong, expect for the ABS keycaps, the mayor issue are mushy stabs.

[spark hatch]

No idea, 120 or what ever you said earlier would probably be fine

[spark hatch]

There's way better options for that layout though

[pale garnet]

dude i looked at people selling the same kb and they sell it for $160

[spark hatch]

Then sell it for 160

[pale garnet]

I just put mine for $140

[spark hatch]

I don't know what's it's worth, I'm the wrong person to ask. Sell it for what ever you think its worth

[pale garnet]

but the thing is, they sell it used. Brand new costs $170

hmm okok imma just put it around $150 and say the price is still negotiable then sell it for 5 or $10 less

[limpid kernel]

anyone know if the corsair k60 is a good keyboard trying to find a full size mechanical and i found the k60 for cheap?

[spark hatch]

No it's bad, what features are you looking for in a keyboard? And what size?

[limpid kernel]

i need a 100% extra keys are nice but not necessary obviously want mechanical but dont want the keys to be very loud

[spark hatch]

i'd recomend the keychron c2

[storm scaffold]

if you live in the uk, theres cex

[young spoke]

anyone know a good wireless keyboard with gateorn yellows

under £100

preferably with a usb a connection

[river ermine]

https://www.amazon.eg/-/en/gp/product/B07W86N3JV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1ZVRGNO5AYLOV&psc=1

this ok for 1500 egp? its 20% off the us pricing

no aqua switchtes atm

[young spoke]

yes

[river ermine]

is there anything better

like maybe 20% btter for 2000 eggp

or is this just rlly good pricing

[young spoke]

i mean if you look for like 10 hours then maybe

[young spoke]

yes it’s good pricing

[river ermine]

i looked for 11

[young spoke]

oh then no

that’s the best price

[river ermine]

do wrist rests snap onto the keyboard

i need one cause i usually use laptop membrane and laptop has rest for wrists

im looking for a rist rest that snap on for like 200 egp

[young spoke]

i doubt it would work

but i may be mistaken

[river ermine]

so just normal

no attaching

[young spoke]

yes probably

i’m 99% sure it can’t

[river ermine]

https://www.amazon.eg/-/en/FANTECH-AC4101L-Anti-Slip-Keyboard-446X95X18MM/dp/B0922WWKDZ/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3T5MHC4DY15AH&keywords=wrist+rest&qid=1657708904&sprefix=wrist+rest%2Caps%2C141&sr=8-2

found this

this isnt attachable but is it good

and are most rests not attachable

@young spoke

[young spoke]

huh

that seems good

anyone know any good wireless keyboards with gateorn yellow

[river ermine]

what country

[young spoke]

england

[rough smelt]

I'll assume since my message appears to be deleted that this was not the right place to ask about keyboards and mice

[crimson isle]

ehh, it is
but you probably just used a word the bot doesn't like

[rough smelt]

ah

[crimson isle]

censored words pretty dumb after all

[cerulean copper]

could someone recommend me some budget white on black doubleshot pbt keycaps that would work with a 75%?

[junior aspen]

ikr

[latent blaze]

chat i need help deciding which to get, https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=31063869751385 or RK ROYAL KLUDGE RK84 RGB 75% Triple Mode BT5.0/2.4G/USB-C Hot Swappable Mechanical Keyboard, 84 Keys Wireless Bluetooth Gaming Keyboard, Tactile Brown Switch https://a.co/d/h13mmF8

[unkempt dome]

Do you need 2.4 ?

[latent blaze]

Theres no obstructions between keeb and pc so it would have good connection

i mean i dont NEED it but wireless is nice and i dont know how fast bt is anymore

[broken salmon]

rk61 or gk61 or ...61?

[latent blaze]

rk61

[tepid hound]

has anyone from canada ordered a keyboard from keychron?

[spark hatch]

Rk61

[spark hatch]

For that region anything better probably wouldn't ship sadly

[spark hatch]

Nah this is the right channel, what you looking for?

[spark hatch]

Depending on how cheap you consider budget, look on drop.com, akko, or machanicalkeyboards.com

[spark hatch]

Yes

Multiple

[tepid hound]

whats the customs like

like do they charge u money to accept delivery of ur package

[spark hatch]

There's 30$ shipping if I remember correctly and atleast when shipped with DHL there's no fees soon delivery

[tepid hound]

yeah it's a $28 shipping fee

for me

so u didnt pay anything for customs?

[spark hatch]

Nope, jsut the 30$ shipping

[tepid hound]

like they didnt surprise u with a bill after the shipping fee

[tepid hound]

if you dont mind me asking

you live in ontario?

[spark hatch]

Alberta, but I don't think that would matter

[tepid hound]

I see

idk it might matter laws are diff

but I hope I dont get sent a surprise bill afterwards

[spark hatch]

Keychron ships from Hongkong so the package enters Canada at Ontario anyway

[spark hatch]

Yea fair enough, I doubt you would get billed though

[tepid hound]

ah I see

thanks for sharing!

[cerulean copper]

cheap aka around 30 bucks no more

[chrome raft]

Is the Cherry G80-3000N RGB TKL a good buy for 70 euro?

[rough smelt]

Was looking at getting a Redragon K580 and a G502 Hero for a total of 102 euro from amazon, does anyone have any recommendations on other peripherals that may be better for a similar or better price?

Both are currently on sale for 66 and 36 euro respectively

[spark hatch]

I dont know too much about mice but I would assume the hero is fine.

for the keyboard tho I would recommend the keychron c2
https://www.keychron.com/collections/100-layout-keyboards/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32312457625689

[spark hatch]

i'd personally get a keychron or akko

[chrome raft]

why? i have no knowledge in keyboards, and cherry switches are really good

way better than my membrane keyboard lol

[onyx summit]

cherrys aren't the best anymore and keychron makes good keyboards

[rough smelt]

Ah it's a USB C, which means I'll have to buy an adapter and it i don't know if it'll ship to Ireland without massive import costs

[spark hatch]

cherry switches are not really good. its preferance

[rough smelt]

When I look at it on Amazon it says it's 100 euro

[spark hatch]

you dont have usb c?

[rough smelt]

Amazon won't import it to Ireland

[rough smelt]

No

And I can't even buy it so it doesn't matter

Although it seems like it'd be a great option if it was able to ship

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/pages/where-to-buy

might beon that list idk tho

[chrome raft]

does it really matter? no, i liked how it looked and its better than a razer cynosa chroma

[rough smelt]

Nope, we're not on it

[chrome raft]

and all those keychron keyboards look pretty bad imo

[spark hatch]

no it doesnt matter, they wre just correcting you when you said "cherry switches are really good"

[spark hatch]

that subjective but ok

[chrome raft]

well they are good

[rough smelt]

Do you have any other recommendations? Might have a bit more luck with some others

[spark hatch]

you're looking at a flat black kb. theres no design in it

[spark hatch]

they're meh

but sure

[chrome raft]

maybe not the best, but better than gateron

[spark hatch]

keychron, akko, leopold, varmilo, durgod, ducky, kemove, royal kludge

[spark hatch]

gaterons arent bad? and theres lots of other switch options that are better than both of them

[rough smelt]

Any of those you'd put ahead of the rest? I can rule out keychron since they don't ship here

[spark hatch]

doesnt matter switches are mainly preference.
if thats the keyboard you want go for it but I would recommend keychron or akko

[rough smelt]

I'll try see what akko offers

[chrome raft]

or outemu

[spark hatch]

akko. not sure of there shipping tho. some of those others should be on amazon tho

[spark hatch]

most of there switches are budget ( think if im remembering right). they're not in the same price bracket

[rough smelt]

Most of akkos seems to be a bit more expensive than the K580 i was originally looking at

[spark hatch]

they they're abit more. but you get what you pay for

[chrome raft]

the hell is "Steelseries Whisper-Quiet"

[spark hatch]

no idea I dont pay attention to bigger brands like that

or rather gaming brands

[chrome raft]

i dont even think is mechanical

[spark hatch]

maybe not

[chrome raft]

nope, its membrane. so they're lying about it being mechanical

[spark hatch]

it'd be neat if they did a electro capacitive or topre board

[spark hatch]

lmao n i c e

[chrome raft]

and it targeted at gamers and e sports

[spark hatch]

as most gaming brands are

[rough smelt]

I think I might just go with the K580

Seems like a decent option, especially as it's on sale

[spark hatch]

if none of the other options fit your needs sure reddragon is fine. expect rattly stabs and poor quility keycaps tho

[rough smelt]

Well other options are bringing the total over 100 - too expensive or don't even ship here

[onyx summit]

i 100% didn't buy the keyboard im using because it was on sale

[rough smelt]

What one are you using?

[onyx summit]

g413 i got it for 43 cad

[spark hatch]

eh thats fair

if you're on a budget

you take waht you can get

[rough smelt]

It's 83 euro on sale here right now

[onyx summit]

lmao

off sale it's 70 cad

[rough smelt]

bruh

damn the keychron c2 is twice the price in Europe compared to the US

[onyx summit]

just buy if off the keychron web site

[rough smelt]

As previously said, they do not ship to here

[onyx summit]

L

[rough smelt]

Was checking the German site

[spark hatch]

lmao

[onyx summit]

I should of gotten the c2 and not this

[rough smelt]

I wonder if the UK site would ship

Probably has stupidly high prices just for importing

[onyx summit]

where do you live

[rough smelt]

ireland

yoooo they ship to "most European countries"

and it's only 46 pounds

[onyx summit]

it don't ship to ireland

lmao

https://www.keychron.com/pages/shipping-policy

[rough smelt]

okay but the uk website ships

[onyx summit]

ship to a po box in uk maybe

and get it there

[rough smelt]

what are you on about

the UK website "ships to most European countries"

[onyx summit]

oh theres a uk website

[spark hatch]

mhm

[rough smelt]

also the .com website ships to Ireland

probably have to pay a shit ton for shipping

[onyx summit]

it doesn't

[rough smelt]

Where does it say

[onyx summit]

on the top

for the us site

[rough smelt]

my good sir

is northern ireland

all of ireland

northern ireland is part of the UK

[onyx summit]

im legally blind

[rough smelt]

indeed you are

[spark hatch]

lmao

[onyx summit]

i did i little control f

typed ireland

[rough smelt]

lmao

[onyx summit]

didn't read northern ireland

[rough smelt]

Does Keychron charge for shipping?

[onyx summit]

northern ireland ireland same thing

[keen palm]

I wonder how much it would cost to build a keyboard where the keypress is triggered by a magnet embedded in the key cap triggers a mag-reed switch on the main board rather than a physical switch or dome

[onyx summit]

both should be british

[rough smelt]

💀

[onyx summit]

and i just pissed of the whole of ireland

[rough smelt]

I just want to know if keychron charges for shipping

[rough smelt]

no potatoes for you

[keen palm]

Speaking as an American not everyone wants to be British

not that there is anything wrong with being British

[onyx summit]

they do

charge

[spark hatch]

yep!

[onyx summit]

https://www.keychron.uk/pages/get-10-off-on-your-next-keychron-purchase

[spark hatch]

and so does ever other keyboard company

[rough smelt]

damn I'm seeing people say they charge 23 dollars

[keen palm]

well from a macro view you pay for shipping whether they explicitly charge for it or not

[rough smelt]

Oh wait they're doing 10% off?

[spark hatch]

30$ for me, yea its expensive but sadlt all custom keyboard companyies are like that

[spark hatch]

yea they're ahving a prime day sale or smthn

[onyx summit]

which fucks people who are close and helps people who are far

[onyx summit]

yes

[keen palm]

the continuing shipping container shortage is still causing high shipping costs for supplies/parts/products that travel longer than the 'final mile'

[spark hatch]

true

[rough smelt]

That'll make having to pay for shipping not as painful

[onyx summit]

the uk website expensive

75 euro

64 pound

[woeful lantern]

it's a problem but if you want stuff quickly shipping is expensive it it's half the earth no matter shortage

[keen palm]

i don't typically mind paying higher shipping costs for computer tech as long as it's packaged to survive the horrors of shipping

[woeful lantern]

or if it has a good rma process yeah

still waiting on the keychron q8 launch i want it

[onyx summit]

the amouint of times i had to rma my g533

[rough smelt]

Wait 30 dollars for just shipping within the UK?

[spark hatch]

idk, it was 30$ cad for me to ship from hong hong to canada. not sure if its teh same shipping within eu

I think you can calculate shiupping when you go into checkout

its like on the right side of the screen. could be wrong tho

[woeful lantern]

just compare the sites and take the cheapest site

[rough smelt]

Alright, time for some researching

[spark hatch]

q8? whats it gonna be?

like what size

[woeful lantern]

alice

[spark hatch]

oh

[onyx summit]

talking about keyboards im never gonna buy

[spark hatch]

that would be nice

[woeful lantern]

and cheap for an alice board tbh 185 assembled

qmk and via

[spark hatch]

I wouldnt know. never looked alice boards

does seem cheap tho

ergo boards are pricy asf

[woeful lantern]

they go quite high the previous one i saw was that price no switches and keycaps and weird site. also missing the b on the right side

as alice has 2 b keys

[spark hatch]

ah

[woeful lantern]

will get it tactile or linear not sure yet

but it's hotswap anyway

[spark hatch]

mhm

[rough smelt]

damn

[woeful lantern]

and will get a k2 and combine shipping as a portable wireless board/ at home wireless sometime need a keyboard away from a system

[rough smelt]

80 euro in total to get a C2

💀

[unkempt dome]

Bt suck mostly

[unkempt dome]

Depend of the price of the board

[latent blaze]

oh wait that k2 is not hotswap

nvm

[woeful lantern]

bt is usefull for typing but gaming nah

[tepid hound]

120 usd

[unkempt dome]

You can estimate it on the ups site

[rough smelt]

Damn, what a bummer

Probably won't be able to get a C2

Unless I order it from the US

God knows how long that'll take to come

[onyx summit]

6 years

add a sideways eight

[cobalt canyon]

Can I hot swap C2 with kailh speed gold switches?

[latent blaze]

If you got the hotswap version yes

[latent blaze]

bump

[spark hatch]

yea it is

[spark hatch]

yes

asumingyou got the hot swap model

[latent blaze]

No the one i sent isnt, the hotswap one is like 20$ more rn

[spark hatch]

oh I see, your model isnt

[twilit flare]

What are good switches for occasional typing and more gaming

linear?

[whole talon]

Linear if you don't mind double typing a letter here or there. Tactile if you need accurate typing

[spark hatch]

its all preferance

what ever you like best

[twilit flare]

i know its about preference, i just want an idea on which switches are meant for what i want to do

[twilit flare]

oh

so linear has slow response time? or

[spark hatch]

no switch is meant for one thing

[spark hatch]

no

[twilit flare]

obviously switches are better in different categories they aren't all the same

[spark hatch]

no?

[twilit flare]

okay

[spark hatch]

its just preferance of what one you like the best

only speed swithces are really category "locked"

they actuwate very easily which is goof for gaming, but typing on them is horrible (at least for me. some people dont have issues with it)

[whole talon]

They're usually a bit faster to respond in games

[spark hatch]

this is not true

they actuate] at the same time as a tactile or clicky

[ionic briar]

it feels like its faster cause you dont have to overcome any resistance, but in reality its prob not

[spark hatch]

mhm

[whole talon]

Hmm yeah I'm just used to the ones with weaker springs

[spark hatch]

unless its a speed switch

[whole talon]

But yeah I guess reds have pretty much the same spring as browns

[spark hatch]

otherwise it'll usually actuate at around 2mm, just like most other tactiles and clickies

[gritty drift]

my keyboard went buggy on if u use numbers it spams letters and the 4th row down dosent work so annoying

now i need to use this use razer deathstalker

[spark hatch]

have you tried using the kb in another computer

[gritty drift]

yep

[whole talon]

Did you get water in it? That's weird it's like a row is shorted

[spark hatch]

ah, thats unfortunate

[gritty drift]

very annoying and theres not been water in it

[spark hatch]

hahve you looked at the pcb?

depending on what board it is its usually not too hard to open them up

[gritty drift]

yea it looks perfectly fine i can show a pic of it if u want

[whole talon]

Does the number row just type the letters from 2 rows down?

Or are they different letters?

[gritty drift]

let me check

[whole talon]

That looks like the bottom row yeah

Can't rule out a software issue but that looks like a hardware problem

Shorted pins or something

[gritty drift]

I’m currently taking it apart to send a pic of the pcb

[unkempt dome]

None

Any switches will do

[jaunty kelp]

whats a good place for europe country to buy those fancy and cheap DIY programmable keys keyboard that dont require software for the macros to work like on razer's?

[rough smelt]

I have no idea what switch to go for

Because I'll be using it for typing but also a lot of gaming

Maybe browns?

[unkempt dome]

It doesn't matter

Get the ones that feels the best for you

[languid mason]

does anyone have any opinion on evga z12 keyboard

[rough smelt]

I've been told that the C2 probably isnt a great option for how much it costs according to the PC Help Hub Server, so not sure anymore

Hard decision as it has to be a full 100% computer

So as far as I've seen from recommendations 100% keyboards aren't very common?

Or at least are quite expensive

[woeful lantern]

fullsize is hard if you want somethnig cheap hexgears boards are nice it's on sale on aliexpress

[rough smelt]

I'll have a look

[woeful lantern]

it's like 60ish for a hotswap board with khail switches

get one that says hotswap! also check for the official sore

[languid mason]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09C2DLCPG?ref=ppx_pt2_dt_b_prod_image is this a good deal

[rough smelt]

Do you have a hexgear board you'd recommend?

[woeful lantern]

they are all the same almost gk705 is quite decent choice

[rough smelt]

Thanks

[spark hatch]

id get keychron c2

[swift forge]

What about the EVGA Z15, mechanical and Kailh hotswap

Gives you a few extra switches to try too

[rough smelt]

Apparently the stabilisers are bad on keychron boards

[spark hatch]

no?

they're fine

[rough smelt]

Do you have one?

[spark hatch]

4

[rough smelt]

impressive

[spark hatch]

q1, k6, c1 and c2

[spark hatch]

not really but thanks

[rough smelt]

I was able to get a 10% discount on the C2 so the price with shipping is 75 euro

Is that a decent price for it?

[spark hatch]

yea I'd say so. the c2 at its cheapest can only be bought at 70$ (as far as im aware) due to keychrons high shipping cost

[latent blaze]

no, that is membrane, the Z15 is a good deal right now

[pulsar ermine]

Anybody know a good 75% keyboard?

[languid arch]

the keychron K2 is pretty solid

[spark hatch]

budget?

[pulsar ermine]

not really a budget but nothing CRAZY EXPENSIVE

[spark hatch]

give me a number, my normal could be your "CRAZY EXPENSIVE"

higher end: https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q1?variant=39898909179993

midrange: https://akkogear.de/collections/keyboards?sort_by=best-selling or https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-hot-swappable-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32187465597017

[pulsar ermine]

is the Q1 worth it?

[spark hatch]

yea

its a aluminum case, gasket mount, gmk (good rgb and macro software)

south facing rgb, high quality keycaps (ill be it I personally find them ugly)

[pulsar ermine]

should I use base switches or get my own

[spark hatch]

id get your own

base switchs are ass in my opinion

[pulsar ermine]

what are some good linear switches for gaming?

[spark hatch]

and im sure you're aware but if you get barebones you'd also need to get keycaps

[pulsar ermine]

ya

[spark hatch]

doesnt really matter, what ever you like the feel of, if you really want you can get speed switches but I personally dont find an advantage in using them over normal switchs

[pulsar ermine]

alright

best black and white keycaps?

[spark hatch]

uhm, loot at like drop.com I think they jsut came out with some pretty nice black and white keycaps

[pulsar ermine]

thx

[spark hatch]

if you want to look at nice budget options akko jelly blacks are pretty nice

or for speed akko jelly silvers are pretty nice

[chrome raft]

hi gaymers

[crimson isle]

Oh no, cringe person

Cringe pfp, cringe banner, cringe message

[sick hazel]

any suggestions for a wireless low profile TKL? Looking for short key travel and some tactile feedback.
Ideally powered by AA/AAA batteries

[latent blaze]

Keychron k5

I dont know any keyboards with aa/aaa batteries they all have lithium batteries for good reason

[whole talon]

i mean that reason is mostly just that they're backlit and LEDs take a lot of power

but that's a lot of requirements you'd probably have to build it yourself to get all of them

leopold makes some bluetooth ones with AAAs https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=8719

it's gonna be bluetooth and non-backlit to be using AAAs

but yeah keychron k5 w/ browns or logitech g915 tactile is the closest you're gonna get to meeting all of them

the k3 looks awesome, i'm gonna have to pick up one of those https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LSJ4RHH

[swift forge]

NuPhy Air75

you might hate the colour scheme though, but it’s not RGB or rainbow puke

https://www.amazon.com/Air75-Mechanical-Connection-Compatible-Systems-Gateron/dp/B09KFRZS3J/

Oh well it’s 75% mb

[unkempt dome]

Still a good keyboard

[chrome raft]

anyone know a good keycaps set for the apex pro

[spark hatch]

any cherry style keycap will work

[sick hazel]

What switches does it have? Afaik keychrons are usually modular so i could theorectically put some Kalih Chocs in there, but still interested to know

[spark hatch]

gateron

just get the hop swap model

[sick hazel]

It will do, but i'd have to scheme up some thing to get it from Amazon since they don't ship here
Thank you

[spark hatch]

ah gotcha, amazon has a decent amount of keycap sets, should be able to find smthn you like

[misty crypt]

tbh seeing how much better the RGB controlled by QMK is with keychron boards, i regret getting this GMMK pro

but i'm not about to buy a whole-ass new keyboard just to correct for that

:)

i have a history of doing that

i have a keychron Q0 to go with it btw

can confirm; using VIA to set it up is 1000000% better than literally any RGB program in existence

[chrome raft]

why keychron

[gentle valley]

Been looking into the MX keys mechanical as I’m a mac user. Was wondering people’s opinions on it.

[jagged plank]

Do you mean switches

[jagged plank]

Nah Q series is wayyy too underhyped

[spark hatch]

How so?

[spark hatch]

Budget?

[gentle valley]

Sorry if wasn’t directed towards me, but no Logitech makes a wireless keyboard called the MX keys. I had that version, but didn’t like the key travel and feel, so I’m looking at the new version they released the MX keys mechanical. I’ve never looked into mechanical keyboards, so I figured something preconfigured might be a good start.Then I’m one of the people who loves Apple’s low profile wireless keyboards, and their macbook keyboards. * the new non butterfly ones*

[spark hatch]

Why don't you use the apple keyboard if you like it?

[gentle valley]

Was thinking up to $175 US

[spark hatch]

Any specific features you want? E.g: wireless, lowprfile

[gentle valley]

I’m lookin into something different as the short key travel and closeness of the keys since they are low profile makes it hard for me to figure out the right key as I’m blind so I have to use a screen reader which is all keyboard based combinations. The problem is starting to effect my productivity, so thought a mechanical keyboard would help since the keys have some spacing between them.

But feature wise wireless for sure, and other than that as I mentioned above having some spacing between keys to help separate them would be nice.

[gilded canopy]

https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional-for-mac/

Not wireless, hmmmm.

[spark hatch]

Take a look at keychron, all of they're keyboards are compatible with mac

Sadly only K series is wireless if that's a priority tho

[latent blaze]

Yah keychron K series is very good

[boreal rivet]

realforce R3 or a HHKB hybrid

both have wireless and mac keys/versions

[shy thistle]

Can you replace Cherry style stabs with durock stabs

[unkempt dome]

yes

if it's the same kind of stabs ...

depending of the the keyboard support

[latent blaze]

are durock v2 still like the "best" stabs

or at least at a good price

[unkempt dome]

don't know if they are the best ... I know they are good

[spark hatch]

they're good yea, I dont think i'd call them the best thrers other good options but they're often thought to be the "best"

[zenith jewel]

Update: the keyboard just arrived today. Seems to be working fine

and yes, I got the g413

[twilit flare]

nicee

[junior aspen]

a Black RGB full Keyboard with MX Cherry Brown keys within 150$

do you think I should get Corsair?

I want either Corsair, Logitech or Razer (though I don't know Razer's version of cherry brown)

[spark hatch]

why you want to be locked with those companies?

[junior aspen]

my parents would be buying it. I don't think they would trust even razer or corsair

[spark hatch]

I see, just get waht ever you like the look of, razer and corsair are both shit so

[junior aspen]

ye i saw corsair reviews, keyboard design is not good, and razer too expensive

[spark hatch]

if you could see if you could get a keychron or an akko keyboard

[tribal jackal]

does anyone know how to switch a keychron c1 back to windows layout

i somehow put it into mac and i dont know how to put it back

[tardy saddle]

https://www.keychron.com/pages/c1-keyboard-user-manual

[tribal jackal]

yeah i read it

it just says that it can do it

but doesnt say hiw

how*

oh i did something

and it worked

turns out the switch bside the connector is the key

[spark hatch]

The switcg beside the usb c that says win - mac

[fallen mauve]

best akko linear?

[spark hatch]

all preferance

no best

[fallen mauve]

what would you reccomend

[spark hatch]

I like my akko jelly blacks

[fallen mauve]

i had a friend with a keeb with lubed nk creams so i'll look and compare a bunch of cheaper switches because im getting mixed answers in other servers

[spark hatch]

switches are all prefernace, just pick what ever you think YOU'LL like

personally dont like nk creams as I find them very scratchy

[fallen mauve]

issue is that i don't know what i like

all i have is a shitty k552 with blues LMAO i was a stupid asf 12 year old

[hearty rampart]

depends but i personally like jelly blacks

that what i have in my keeb rn

[spark hatch]

same

gateron yellows werent bad either, I couldnt type for shit on them for some reason tho

[hearty rampart]

they felt the same to me other then the weight

so i went with the blacks bc of the thocc

[spark hatch]

arent yellows the same wight at 50g?

[hearty rampart]

maybe? idk

the blacks ust felt a little heavier

just*

what keeb are you running rn

[spark hatch]

q1

[fallen mauve]

i'm consistently hearing jelly blacks so

i'll try that

[hearty rampart]

there bang for buck

45 for $20 if i remember correctly

[fallen mauve]

45 for $17

[whole talon]

Kailh deep sea. silent, low force 🤤

[hearty rampart]

even better

[whole talon]

expensive tho

and there were a few bad ones in the pack that would double type

[hearty rampart]

that's why I didn't get it

my board was limited tho bc the pcb is only 3 pin hs

[whole talon]

yeah they're 3 pin

fastest and quietest switches i've tried tho i haven't tried a ton

hated the speed coppers they're so weird. they actuate like at the very top it's really hard to get a feel for and i kept pressing keys i didn't mean to

[vocal plover]

MX Red vs MX Silent?

[unkempt dome]

Speed copper bump is on top ... they don't actuate at the bump but lower than the bump

[whole talon]

yeah but it like actuates and then there's like just 3mm of travel past that that does nothing, it's a very weird feel

had to put huge orings on them to get rid of the extra travel but yeah they are hard to use you have to type really carefully on them

i like to just mash the keys all the way down so silent linears are the way to go for me lol. or low profile

[unkempt dome]

Total travel is 3mm

Never had problem with them

[whole talon]

well i guess i'm just a spaz i can't use them without accidentally pressing extra keys

and just don't like the feel, i like low travel but with actuation near the bottom

getting some low profile gateron browns to try out they seem interesting

2.75mm travel 1.5mm actuation

[stuck flicker]

how like razer ?

[sick hazel]

Are there any standartized layouts smaller than 60%?

[spark hatch]

tehy make shitty keyboards

[spark hatch]

40%

[shy thistle]

How long are stabs for ANSI layout

[spark hatch]

usually 6.25u on space bar and 2u on modifiers

[shy thistle]

Ok thanks

Also is it possible to install durock v2 stabs without removing the pcb

[spark hatch]

no

[shy thistle]

Is this for a specific type (plate mounts, screw in etc.) of stab or for all types