peripherals

[unkempt dome]

linear switches

[wind oyster]

i see

[unkempt dome]

check the akkogear.com

[wind oyster]

its over $100

[unkempt dome]

you can find descriptions and graphs for all their switches

[wind oyster]

well $105 to be xact

[unkempt dome]

it's about the same price as a keychron board

[wind oyster]

well the keychron i was looking at which was k8 was like $62 at lowest price cuz i think it was a sale

[urban panther]

not a bad price

[snow wing]

I am opening a restaurant thats similar to a meal prep business where we will be cooking tons and tons and tons of food, like 100-200 pounds of cooked chicken in one day.

I'm looking for a keyboard like this one that is easy to clean so bacteria can't get under each and all the keys. This is a kitchen bump bar and they're around 200 dollars and not exactly what I'm looking for

I know there are washable keyboards, that doesn't solve my problem. I need this type of device to be sanitized in between each recipe, every time. So it needs be basically be just like the image above, just.. more keys and ideally not a total ripoff of a price so I can order 10 of them

[chrome raft]

thx

any recommendation for 100% mechincial keyboard max budget $60

[swift forge]

Ducky One series

If you want the full package, no 1800 or 96% cutting off the section next to the numpad

Though there are less expensive options I probably don’t know of

[spark hatch]

what features are you looking for and what budget?

[swift forge]

Hello Ryzen!

[spark hatch]

hey

[chrome raft]

Guys is this worth 50 please help rn store closes in 1 hour

[spark hatch]

what company is the keyboaard?

[swift forge]

That darkly reminds me of how gaming keyboards were packaged pre-2018

[chrome raft]

Atrix Sniper Keyboard Wired White

[spark hatch]

never heard of it. no idea of its quility

[chrome raft]

Oh

[spark hatch]

id personally save for a keychron c2

its like 40$ + shipping

[chrome raft]

What about the steel series apex 3 it’s there too

[chrome raft]

Oh heard of that which switches for it?

[swift forge]

Hell no 💀

That’s a membrane lmfao

[spark hatch]

gateron I believe, you can get hot swap tho

which I would recommend

[chrome raft]

There’s brown and blue

And Ted

Red

[spark hatch]

yea

red linear
brown tactile
blue clicky

[chilly perch]

Any full sized keyboards with floating keys and aluminum/white plates and case?

Gmmk white ice is nearly exactly what I need but if it had a detachable cable it'd be better

[swift forge]

Uhh maybe the GMMK 2? 96% though

[loud oracle]

Does anybody use switches other than either Cherry or Cherry clones these days?

[spark hatch]

yes

not alot of enthusiast likes cherry actually

[loud oracle]

Anything Alps-like?

Even the enthusiast switches tend to be derived from Cherry designs but tweaked.

[spark hatch]

oh I see what youre saying sorry, nah I think most people still use cherry style switches

[loud oracle]

The old Northgate and Apple Extended keyboards that used ALPS switches were so nice.

[spark hatch]

topre is a non cherry switch i hear about sorda often but thats about it

[loud oracle]

I mean, IBM-style buckling springs are still a thing, but they're ultimately based on the same PCB design as the OG Model M, so that means that stuff like N key rollover is impossible

[spark hatch]

yea

most people ive seen have just gotten old used buckling boards from what ive seen

[loud oracle]

If Unicomp could get the funding to put together a proper modern PCB using their buckling spring mechanism, that would be nice.

But even more than Model Ms (which the school computers used in my elementary school), they keys I like best were the Alps keys. Supposedly there's an Apple-oriented brand called Mattias that has Alps clone key switches, but I'm not an Apple person and they don't have a version with PC keycaps anymore as far as I can tell.

[boreal rivet]

You can buy a buckling spring with a "modern" pcb right now

It's called the model F

https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/

Also don't buy matias alps

Their designs are based on simplified alps which are inferior to their complicated counterparts used in the AEKs and North gates etc

[chilly perch]

I don't think the pcb is the issue it would be making the switches

[boreal rivet]

wdym?

[chilly perch]

To make a buckling switch keyboard

i think the pcb design is a kinda minor thing

[boreal rivet]

for membrane buckling springs yes

in the case of the model F which uses capacitive sensing the pcb would be more annoying

[chilly perch]

oh yeah that does sound annoing

[boreal rivet]

the hard part about the switch assembly is just paying for the molds and getting the design and dimensions right

anyway you can skip all of that and just buy one of ellipse's repros

[chilly perch]

Yeah

If they are designing switches thats gonna be very expense

[boreal rivet]

he is not

its a straight copy afaik

but he is making most of the parts from scratch

which is why its so expensive

[chilly perch]

Right

[radiant sundial]

who has a separate keyboard for different things I have 10 different mechanical keyboard for different things

[spark hatch]

I have 2 , one for travel and one for my pc

[radiant sundial]

so 10 is too much

[spark hatch]

probably

what is each one for?

[radiant sundial]

1. Osu
2. work
3. gaming
4. typing for fun
5. travel
6. backup
7. wireless kb for my pc in my Livingroom
8. wireless kb for my phone

other 2 are just for parts

[spark hatch]

I mean if that works for you, great

[radiant sundial]

yea and i spent too much on them

[gloomy quest]

is the osu 'keyboard' a momokai

[crimson isle]

I would just want a wireless, a compact keyboard that has everything you need for 99%, and a full size for the few cases you need it, lel

[violet remnant]

You have 8 keyboards?

[muted mirage]

hey guys, anyone tried the Logitech MX Mechanical?

I just got mine today

switching from the MX Keys to the Mx Mechanical

got the version with the Tactile quiet switches

[granite furnace]

@spark hatch I tried some keyboards and I liked reds and I found a green that I liked

But overall there wasn't much choice for switches. I couldn't find any black, yellow, nor could I see many tactile switches, other than maybe a single brown

[latent blaze]

I heard it was good by logitech standards and shortcircuit reviewed it.

since you have it in hand then you can try it and see if you personally like it and thats all that matters tho

[unkempt dome]

mathias have some alps like switches ... haven't heard much good about them ...
if you want something different you'll probably have to go topre or buckling spring or vintage alps

[ocean fulcrum]

bruh

[spark hatch]

Most baords from tech stores only have red browns and blues

[finite valve]

https://www.amazon.ca/Gliging-Lube/dp/B0919YM6QC/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1TG26Q9VMGMU6&keywords=keyboard%2Blube&qid=1656265404&sprefix=keyboard%2Blube%2Caps%2C79&sr=8-6&th=1

is this lube good?

[granite furnace]

So what greens would you recommend? Those felt nice

Preferably wired

[spark hatch]

Why keyboard were the greens on? Razer?

[granite furnace]

Oh, maybe, I wasn't paying attention to that.

You know what, I'll go with reds because I'm not quite sure on the greens

[spark hatch]

We're the greens clicky? Like did they make a click apon actuating them

[granite furnace]

They did click

[spark hatch]

Alr, what size kB did you want? And what budget?

[spark hatch]

Ok those were razer, they're clickys, and the Reds are linear

[granite furnace]

Budget is a hundred, I want the full keyboard, with numpad

[spark hatch]

Keychron c2

And I'd recommend getting the hot swap version

[granite furnace]

I also don't mind RGB if I can turn it off

[spark hatch]

Yes you can turn it off, if you don't want RGB at all they have a retro color scheme that doesn't have LEDs. Or you can just get the standard model and turn RGB off

And for the switch, Reds will be the same or similar to the Reds your tried, or the blues will be similar to the greens you tried

[granite furnace]

Wait, what? I tried blues and I disliked them.

Any other good options?

[unkempt dome]

The switches you will get separately

[granite furnace]

What why?

[night briar]

First mech keyboard, so weird using it after using a hp office keyboard for 5 years

[granite furnace]

@spark hatch it says NUM lock only works on Windows. Can you explain?

(I'm not a Windows user and I don't want an unusable key)

[spark hatch]

where you see that?

c2 has a mac mode that should convert everything

[granite furnace]

I use Pop!_OS

[spark hatch]

looks like its just a thing linux doesnt have? I have no idea

[granite furnace]

Works with my current keyboard

[spark hatch]

I have no idea then, never heard of that being a thing. also never use numlock

here wait give me 10,ill try my c1 on pop

c2*

[granite furnace]

Okay, does it only come with a command key or is that some choice I can make at purchase?

[spark hatch]

its default keys are mac

and it comes with windows keys if needed

[granite furnace]

Okay. I guess I'll buy it. Not like command key matters, it still fulfils the same task

[spark hatch]

numlock on c2 works on popos

I just tried it

[granite furnace]

Thanks

[spark hatch]

np, glad to help

[granite furnace]

Would you know if they deliver to the UK?

[spark hatch]

I think they do?

[spark hatch]

if they dont ship

[granite furnace]

@spark hatch I forgot that I'm used to the UK layout

And that keyboard is only in US ANSI as far as I can tell

[spark hatch]

thats all they have

oh oops

[granite furnace]

On the UK site it says US ANSI

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/keychron-uk-iso-keyboards

[granite furnace]

There is none with the number pad separated

[spark hatch]

yea, they dont have many options

[granite furnace]

Do you have another brand?

[spark hatch]

I dont know any uk iso 100% keyboards sorry. someone else might tho

akko might? but i cant remember is they have iso

[granite furnace]

Okay, thanks for trying your best

[idle blade]

hi everyone, why my media function key shortcut didn't work, buth the other its works fine, like end key home pageup pagedown, how to solve this

[spark hatch]

how old is the keyboard?

[idle blade]

its kinda new 60% keyboard

[spark hatch]

<@&750150305383186585>

[chilly perch]

kebor

[junior sentinel]

is the gmmk 2 a good choice?

[swift forge]

not bad at all

as a hotswap 65% nope, if you're looking for a 100% there are some better options that others here might recommend

[junior sentinel]

nah i’m looking for either a 65 or 75 % for a good price and that’s available in my country

[swift forge]

GMMK 2 can be prebuilt or bought barebones

at least on Glorious' website

[spark hatch]

Budget and country?

[crimson isle]

budget: 1 mil
country: mars

[spark hatch]

gonna have to contact elon for shipping, could get messy

I actually got a question for you guys, been thinking of trying switching to linear switches. but my only experience with linears were gateron yellows and I do like them but I think I want something alittle heavier. (my current switches are ergo tactiles with a 63.5g spring) got any suggestions?

Ive been looking at akko jelly blacks and durock L5 switches but I dont really know if either of those are good.
also considering black ink v2 but I've heard that jelly blacks are pretty similar for cheaper so im not sure on them

[chilly perch]

Got me keychron

[spark hatch]

nice nice

[chilly perch]

Look how horrible south facing rgb leds are

[spark hatch]

I like shouth rgb

[chilly perch]

pointless lmfaop

[spark hatch]

wait I thought you got c2

[chilly perch]

q6

im going to mod it

[spark hatch]

huh, lookes very similar to c2 despite being aluminum

[chilly perch]

yea lol

So.

1 sec brb

Dril 3 holes here, bing bang boom

[spark hatch]

and that benifits you how?

[chilly perch]

For status LEDS

also swapping in a custom pcb with the leds

Carving out a usb-cable sized trench across these lines

putting a usb c daughterboard on the square

[spark hatch]

said pcb works with q6?

[chilly perch]

super ezpz bing bang boom routable cable

im gonna make a replacement pcb

[spark hatch]

oh I see

[chilly perch]

I need to go customize the qmk config to fix the keys for these caps

[chrome raft]

Worth $57?

[spark hatch]

personally would save for somthn better

[gloomy quest]

big ups

[chrome raft]

any suggestions for a 100% keyboard w rgb for $40 to 60

[spark hatch]

What size?

I'd probably get keychron c1 or c2

Very nice baords for the price

[livid falcon]

Are razer keyboards good or junk?

Also, are they on green switches only?

[crimson isle]

the amount of hate I've seen from keyboard elitist towards razer, lol

[tidal tartan]

I haven’t had a problem with them

I’ve had a membrane one and one that came with yellow switches that work great

[livid falcon]

I heard most of razer keyboards start to not register some keys after a half a year of use

[untold orchid]

its junk, for the price you can go much much nicer

[livid falcon]

so it really is junk? I heard that it's either nice or junk

[untold orchid]

it aint nice thats for sure

all marketing bullshit

[loud oracle]

I should have bought a keyboard last year.

Prices have gone way up. All I want is something well-built, reliable, and maybe a little colorful (but not RGB). Last year, there was stuff from brands like Ducky that fit the bill for well under $100. Now, not so much. $104.99 seems to be the new starting point :(

[unkempt dome]

it's worth about half what they ask for brand new ... if you can find one for under 1/3 of the brand new price it's probably ok

low price doesn't make it better but just more well priced for the build quality

[livid falcon]

well, does razer even have tactile switches?

Like brown/black

[unkempt dome]

black are not tactile

I don't know if razer had their own "custom" tactile ... but they used cherry brown at some point in time

[livid falcon]

Ok so razer is not worth for a full price

What about logitech keyboards?

mech, obvious

[unkempt dome]

same

and same for corsair

if you want to pay that kind of money well start by checking royal kludge, keychron, akko and such

[loud oracle]

At one point I thought Corsair had some decently priced options.

Anyhow, both Razer and Corsair are way too "gamer aesthetic". I want something that performs well for both gaming and typing, but doesn't look like the kind of thing a thirteen year old would buy with a winning scratch ticket from a Christmas stocking.

[unkempt dome]

any keyboard will do for gaming or typing

[livid falcon]

I'm on a budget tho

[unkempt dome]

just get something you feel good using that is not too much trash build or overpriced

[crimson isle]

apple keyboard for gaming?

[unkempt dome]

you can if you wan t

[urban panther]

if it works wired then technically yes

I wouldn't use bluetooth for gaming tho

[unkempt dome]

would not use bluetoot for gaming

[livid falcon]

I don't like when a keyboard looks like ultra sci-fi cyberpunk shit

Just simple shape and led will work

[unkempt dome]

well you should check out RK or keychron

[livid falcon]

Found RK71 on browns

it's cheap tho

[loud oracle]

Not really. Not of you place any value on tactile experience or durability.

[livid falcon]

I like keychron more

[unkempt dome]

you can still use it for gaming or typing

why wouldn't you be able to game with it ...

[livid falcon]

but it's twice of my budget

[loud oracle]

What do people think of Ducky?

[unkempt dome]

meh

[loud oracle]

This looks fun without being agressively "gamer" https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3483

[unkempt dome]

those are ok but not amazing for the price

get the one 3 instead

at least you won't get stuck with cherry switches

[loud oracle]

I'll have to see what colorways are available.

[unkempt dome]

you can change keycap you know

[loud oracle]

The One 3 looked much more RGB-heavy

[unkempt dome]

and you can turn off rgb you know

[loud oracle]

Yes, but you have to get in on group buys and wait forever for fun keycapa

[unkempt dome]

not really

if you want to spend more on keycaps than what you spent on the entire keyboard yes maybe ...

but there's a lot of keycaps on amazon that will be as good or better than the stock ones

[loud oracle]

Eep. The one 3 is $50+ more expensive. There's only premium hotswap models for sale

Okay. There are a couple more affordable non-hotswap models. But not in colors I like.

[unkempt dome]

check akko then

[loud oracle]

What differentiates the One 2 and One 3 anyway?

Both seem to use Cherry switches.

[unkempt dome]

one 3 is hotswap

so you can get rid of the cherry switches

without desoldering

[loud oracle]

Are cherries really that bad?

[unkempt dome]

they're not that bad ... but there's a lot of stuff that are better

[crimson isle]

1 2 1 3?, wot

switches still just preference tho

[unkempt dome]

yes they are preference ... it just happens that a lot and lot of people prefer other stuff than cherry switches

like there's not many switches that have a really light and round tactile bump except the cherry brown ... but sadly they feel scratchy if you get the basic lineup ... for a better feel you have to get the hyperglide which are not in many keyboards stock anyway as far as I know ...

but that's about the only cherry switch that still have something a bit special to it ... you can get red, blue, black, silver equivalent from others and they will most likely be better out of the box

[chilly perch]

I don't like how the duckys look

[loud oracle]

See. I kinda like their look. I want something that's rubust and colorful, but also not too gamer-y.

Basically, I want a nice keyboard in a fun colorway for $100 or less.

Not looking for a trip into the custom keyboard/modding rabbit hole.

[unkempt dome]

akko keycaps

[unkempt dome]

ok

[runic jewel]

Does anyone have any suggestions for a 100% sized mechanical board with quite short travel (low profile?) switches. I've tried a few boards - a Corsair Strafe which I threw in bin because of the horrific metallic ping and didn't get along with linear switches. I also tried a clicky cheap amazon board - actually didn't mind it, but found it too long travel, it was bonkers loud and eventually gave up with it because I found it tiring from the amount of travel the keys had and if you didn't hit the keys absolutely square it'd bind, oh and sometimes it'd double press keys, so it had to go.

I seem to like quite short travel boards, the keyboard I keep going back to is a really old (circa 2008) Apple silver chiclet board, they are super mushy, but I like the short travel-ness of the scissor mechanism behind them - I seem to really like laptop-style scissor boards, but wanting something more tactile and positive feeling, but nice and short throw. I also seem to like clicky boards, but I suspect I'll get wound up if it's too loud. For reference, I know I REALLY dislike it when the "bump" or the click doesn't happen at the same time as the button actually triggers - that winds me up, so I think a lot of the "tactile" switches will drive me up the wall as I believe the trigger point and the tactile bump actually don't happen at the same time.

Oh, as a disclaimer, I'm not a gamer really, I work in a weird niche of computing and spend a lot of my time at a terminal, so not really a developer, but somewhere in between.

[unkempt dome]

no need to go low profile to have short travel switches

bump/click and actuation don't occur at the same time except for buckling spring and some other not that common stuff

but it can be so close that it's actually not noticeable anyway

well you could just get a scissor board on amazon and call it a day ... I know there's a lot of cheap ones out there

or you can get something with tactile speed switches which have higher actuation point and shorter total travel like the kailh speed copper

[runic jewel]

wahhhh why! maybe I just need a model M or something!

yeah, maybe my solution is a good quality scissor board... maybe I'll try something with the kailh speed coppers - I've never tried them, so couldn't possibly comment on whether I'd like them

I'm always surprised when people 'test' keyboards without actually using typing on them just to see the feel as it seems that the way they feel vs how they trigger seems to be mega important to me... I never realised (until fairly recently...) that a lot of users actually don't want to bottom out the keys, which is mad in my head, but appreciate I'm not the norm!

[unkempt dome]

I always bottom out

and every switches I tried I typed for a long time with them so I can decide if I like them or not

[swift forge]

I mean you can always try a Ducky One 3 full size with speed switches

[old palm]

Kailh Box Key Switches for Mechanical Gaming Keyboards | Plate Mounted (Kailh Box Jade, 65 Pcs) https://a.co/d/2ZHH6sD

My switches, big fan tbh.

Very clicky

[swift forge]

In my opinion louder than my crickets when they’re hung over the fireplace on the mantelpiece

[old palm]

Keychron C1 Hot-swappable Wired Mechanical Keyboard with Gateron G Pro Blue Switch/Double-Shot ABS Keycaps/White Backlight/USB Type-C Cable, Tenkeyless 87 Keys Computer Keyboard for Mac Windows PC https://a.co/d/1dsMXzq

I bought this one, I like it way more than my old bw3 razor keyboard.

[old palm]

Yesss, absolutely perfect

[shy thistle]

If I desolder my key caps, will they become hot swappable?

[old palm]

I thought I'd miss RGB, but I never even thought about it once. Basic light is good enough for me tbh

[swift forge]

[sick hazel]

Hey guys. Any ideas for a wireless chassis and keycaps for Kalih Choc Blues? TKL is preferred, under 150eur total budget for the project

[sick hazel]

based

[dawn furnace]

So my keyboard didn't have this problem before

But its now double tapping

Like tapping on one key makes 2 letters seemingly It registers as 2 taps

But its just one key

[vocal siren]

does anyone have any experience coding python? I found this keycaps generator based on RAW data, but can't get it to work.
https://github.com/jason-shepherd/keycap_generator

[loud oracle]

Sigh. Buying a keyboard is a pain. The site that heavily promotes itself as THE place to buy mechanical keyboards somehow keeps every product it's ever sold listed as if they were current but out of stock.

And at least on mobile provides no real way to filter out OOS items from view.

Can anybody recommend a good place to buy stuff?

[sweet plank]

https://nl.banggood.com/Royal-Kludge-RK61-Mechanical-Keyboard-61-Keys-bluetooth-5_0-Wired-Dual-Mode-RGB-Gaming-Keyboard-p-1353613.html?cur_warehouse=CZ&ID=6287845515630 i sniped for a good price here

[boreal rivet]

yes thats how its been for a few years

never got why they did that

[sweet plank]

probably have an advertisement plan paid in advance

[boreal rivet]

fyi afaik every enthusiast kb vendor does this

[chilly perch]

To seem like they sell more stuff than they do

[loud oracle]

So, basically, Newegg or Amazon, then.

[loud oracle]

Micro Center's website is also terrible for looking for stuff like keyboards. There's just no way to actually do a sort for "mechanical keyboards" only to do an easy check on what's available locally.

[unkempt dome]

Akkogear.com if you want an akko board

[loud oracle]

Akko boards all look a bit too fancy. Lots of licensed characters and artwork and stuff. Also not too much in the classic layout.

[spark hatch]

they have normal looking stuff

[latent blaze]

The front page is just their artsy stuff go to product list to seebasic shit

[loud oracle]

The keyboard I really liked was this one from Ducky: https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/Ducky-One2-Horizon

The colors are just perfect, but it seems to be discontinued.

Nobody else seems to have anything like it.

[unkempt dome]

Akko have keycap set similar to that

[swift forge]

Have you seen the Daybreak colourway? might be what you're after.

[loud oracle]

It's similar, but not quite the same. Also, it's hot-swappable and RGB, which adds about $50 to the price.

[unkempt dome]

there's not many board that aren't rgb now

[boreal rivet]

that colorway is a clone of gmk nautilus fyi

[swift forge]

I believe there is a white backlighting version

[mighty dragon]

try the samurai blue

[loud oracle]

Where is that? The only thing I find is a set of keycaps that cost $150 on their own. That's more than I really want to spend for an entire keyboard just for the caps!

[analog gyro]

That is what he's talking about. GMK Samurai blue or instock GMK's, but not for eveyone. Can always check Tai-hao or Akko for cheaper keycaps

[opaque shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RN_4PQ0j1A&t=4s

Thoughts?

(Not my video, I just like these types of designs)

[analog gyro]

Yea I've seen it, I think it's not gonna be great for most. For most people going below 60% is a pain, and if you want to go lower than that you should at least try 40% first

[opaque shard]

I'm on 30% personally

I love it, I'm just wondering what "normal" keyboard enthusiasts think

[analog gyro]

I've used everything from 40% to full size, and personally I prefer having most things on one layer, such as numbers and arrows. So I like 60-75%

[opaque shard]

Yeah, I've noticed I don't like that at all personally. I like it right now where I don't have to really my hands or fingers to reach my keys or symbols. And no awkward holding Alt + numbers all the time to reach my symbols, it gets really annoying when programming since you have to do that every 5th word or so

And I use arrows a lot to navigate the text documents, so that I don't have to move my hand over to the mouse. So I've got it setup up so that my arrow keys are on my homerow, really accessible

And I've still just scratched the surface

[loud oracle]

I'm a fan of the classic layout.

[loud oracle]

The problem is that afaik, there will NEVER be a restock. It's a colorway from a discontinued model. And sadly, the replacement model adds a bunch of premium features that bump up the price a lot.

[opaque shard]

As are 99.99% of computer users 😄

Personally I'm just a fan of designing my keyboard around how my hands work and what keys I use the most

[loud oracle]

What would be nice would be a TKL design with a fully matching (color, height, design) numpad that could be used either in the classic position for, say, retro gaming or on the left to make it more convenient to use while mousing through a spreadsheet

Realistically, had the mouse been in common use when the basic modern keyboard layout was first standardized, the numpad would probably have been on the left.

[dawn furnace]

If I open up control panel and click properties on keyboard or any device, it doesn't open any reason why it won't open?

[latent blaze]

I mean there is detached numpads that u can just swap the keycaps

[loud oracle]

The case design would probably not match. Also, generally speaking, it doesn't seem possible to JUST buy numpad keys.

[latent blaze]

well the numpad keys would come with whatever set you buy tho

and theres kits like the mtn everest that have it as a set

And others i cant think of

[crimson isle]

now try playing an MMORPG with this

[crimson isle]

I like to at least have a 75%+ somewhere for when I actually need all the F keys, lel

tho usually, meh
60-65% is good enough, just can't take away more than that

[opaque shard]

It's not designed for gaming, it's designed for typing. Personally I use a 20-key one-handed keyboard with 3 thumb keys to play games.

[crimson isle]

I know, but I want to see something try

using a keyboard with barely any keys, on a genre that easily uses 10-20+ just for skills

[opaque shard]

I personally don't think that would go well 😛

I mean, you can do much with layers but at some point it gets really tedious

[crimson isle]

or just play a fighter

[opaque shard]

The guy in the video only has one thumbkey also

[crimson isle]

try combos with layers

[opaque shard]

I use 2 thumbkeys per hand on my typing keyboard, and 3 on my gaming one

And I think I'm starting to reach the practical limits on how low you can go there, but I'm not entirely sure

[analog gyro]

I gutchu fam

[spark hatch]

oh, I just realized that numpad. thats, an interesitng design

[loud oracle]

The point is that I want something that's fully assembled in the $75-$100 price range. No need to swap keycaps or anything else. A year ago, there were fun options at that price point. Now there's not. You can maybe still get a garbage tier $30 wish.com board with knockoff Blues and put on some custom keycaps.

[chilly perch]

I should make a 8 key keyboard

Just press the bits of the ascii character you want and release to send it to the computer

[analog gyro]

akkogear.com

This one for example is $110 with numpad (compacct layout)
https://en.akkogear.com/product/acr-98-mini-keyboard-bundle-mechanical-keyboard/

Or if you just wanted TKL this one is $90
https://en.akkogear.com/product/doraemon-classic-3087-mechanical-keyboard/

[junior fiber]

Something from Royal Kuldge might hit the bill

Just ordered my 3rd Akko DIY board this week

KeyChron Q series is chunky as, but is over $150 assembled

[visual hawk]

what good keyboard could i get with 100 pounds

ping me if you respond

[visual hawk]

Ty

[cobalt heath]

Urgh, bought a keyboard from CeX (a used electronics and media retailer in this part of the world). Described it as Grade B, supposedly 'good' condition but the lower row of keys feel mushy and slightly sickly. Not what I'd call 'good'. Taking it back tomorrow.

[swift forge]

Considering the brand name is a meme itself (pronounce with soft c) I wouldn’t trust the company anyway

[merry oracle]

Hello. Is this keyboard worth the price? https://www.razer.com/gaming-keyboards/razer-cynosa-v2/RZ03-03400200-R3U1

it's 60$ here

[chrome raft]

I'd rather opt for a mechanical

at that price bracket you can get nice mechanical ones

you can get a keychron for $70

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

I have their k3 low profile and I love it

[chrome raft]

hyperx alloy 65% is on sale for 69.99 and i have a 15% discount should i buy

[spark hatch]

personally would get a keychron

[pearl sigil]

Redragon K621 Horus TKL Wireless RGB Mechanical Keyboard

any thoughts about this keyboard?

[chrome raft]

I have a keychron

[spark hatch]

what model/

[chrome raft]

c1

[spark hatch]

I'd keep that

[chrome raft]

true

I would but I like the alloy 65

[spark hatch]

your money, if you really want it go for it, but Id personally stick with the c1 its a good board

[graceful prawn]

budget: preferably under 100 bucks US
rgb: idc
clicky mechanical switches preferred
wireless preferred
any recommendations

[surreal basin]

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-K553-RGB-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B019O9LPI8

if your still looking

[graceful prawn]

thanks

[surreal basin]

np

Budget: 55-60 $
Rgb: should be like if hit a key there should be rgb around that key feature
Blue switch
wired or wireless both ok
should be 60% or less

[royal patrol]

epomaker gk61 or gk61x with whatever switch you want

[surreal basin]

thats overpriced in my country ☠

[royal patrol]

F

[surreal basin]

its 151 $ in my country

[opaque shard]

Really cool mechanical switches

[surreal basin]

is the gamdias hermes e3 good?

hello anybody?

[grizzled quiver]

dont forget about Dells "maglev" switches.

[royal patrol]

never heard of it im sorry

[opaque shard]

I haven't seen those, are those available for purchase?

[grizzled quiver]

instead of springs for tension, it uses opposing magnets

[surreal basin]

https://www.amazon.com/GAMDIAS-Mechanical-Certified-Anti-Ghosting-Functionality/dp/B08W54GZCH

[opaque shard]

Yeah, it's not really interesting if I can't purchase them to integrate into my keyboard

[surreal basin]

@royal patrol its this one

[grizzled quiver]

although ive done the same thing with very small ring magnets in my keyboard switches. it feels very unique.

[royal patrol]

youll have to watch review videos of it

[grizzled quiver]

the idea of a Maglev switch isnt a bad idea at all

[swift forge]

Finally someone decided to name themselves after a keeb company to show their true enthusiast self

[spark hatch]

lmao

[swift forge]

Although my knowledge that it is a keyboard company probably means I’m too invested as well

💀

And Ryzen with your computer addiction ig the first thing to do to get rid of it, make your PC annoying

Then find something in your house that you can experiment with, perhaps turn that into a hobby

[spark hatch]

I have other hobbies from computers and keyboards

[swift forge]

Welp computer addiction means you do little else that browse the web, chat online, play AAA titles etc

[spark hatch]

I dont have a computer addiction, I work most days of the week. and have other things I do

[unkempt dome]

Like most normal people

[tepid hound]

Hey!

I needed a few more suggestions

after exploring all my options it seems like k8 is a good keyboard and all but the shipping is $38 and that seems a bit hefty (total would be like ~140 USD including taxes and my budget is 150 USD and I need a mouse as well)

so does anyone have any suggestions on what I could do?

I was thinking of cheaping out of a few options example going from aluminum case to white backlight only

[spark hatch]

thats sadly just how the shipping is. I dont think I would get the non aluminum version tho. personally think its looks alittle weird without the rails (they're not necessary tho). if rgb isnt a necessity you could just get the white led version. and for a mouse depending on your needs the Logitech g305 is a pretty good cheap option

[tepid hound]

yeah one way I was thinking of getting around that is purchasing the m1 mouse that keychron sells

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-m1-mouse

[spark hatch]

I forgot they made a mouse

[tepid hound]

so I could pay less for shipping (?)

not less but make it more worth it

[spark hatch]

have you googled reviews on the mouse? ik nothing about it. and I dont know much about mice in the first place

[tepid hound]

theres not a lot of reviews about it

[spark hatch]

ah

[tepid hound]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/pzgpf4/keychron_m1_ultralight_optical_mouse_for_39/

found a subreddit about it tho

[spark hatch]

huh

[swift forge]

.

[spark hatch]

oh yea, I forgot thats what my about me was

[swift forge]

the spelling errors do make it seem like a joke though

sounds like the sarcastic pronunciations

[spark hatch]

thats sadly jsut how I type, I make alot of mistakes ;-;

[swift forge]

but those typos do make a fun "you in a nutshell" about me

[spark hatch]

pretty mcuh

[swift forge]

swap "sea of thieves" with "thinking about these-" and you have my grade's average day

internet addiction or social media hog, always eager to copy trends on clothing, design, "hacks" of all sorts

and random, or overly enigmatic concepts like Quandale Dingle and noot

._.

[spark hatch]

or those memes?

the noot one I think is the penguin

[swift forge]

yea, but where come name

like what do they even mean lmao

[spark hatch]

gotcha

[swift forge]

although on the bright side, useful things are also easier to learn

hello crinacle

and Numberphile, Veritasium and the like

the good thing about this generation is we can take a joke
The bad thing about this generation is we can't differentiate between joke and reality, if its not said before the main content of the video

or in a recognisable format distinguishing the two

[spark hatch]

mhm

[surreal basin]

If you wanna drag lcik and butterfly click corsair katar pro is the choice it can drag clic form 20 up to 45 if you do it right

butterfly clicking on the right spot is 18 - 20 cps

[tepid hound]

mostly need smth satisfying for programming

[surreal basin]

oh

i still would recomend it it has programable clicks and somewhat of rgb thats not bad

use the ICUE software to customise it

[swift forge]

Glorious Model I

If you want something like the Logitech G502 but not as heavy

There’s no free scroll wheel but you have swappable side buttons and drag clicking up to 100 cps

[tepid hound]

tbh the mouse can suck it doesnt matter for me

just the keyboard mainly

should i consider red dragon

[swift forge]

Well glorious is the way to go

[tepid hound]

how much?

USD

[karmic kestrel]

I have a red dragon one handed keyboard that i like a lot.

[swift forge]

Depends on your budget but all other brands surpass it in quality

Well mainstream brands that is

[swift forge]

Hold on

[tepid hound]

i figured

[swift forge]

$60 @tepid hound

for the model I

[tepid hound]

yeah way out of budget

[swift forge]

Oh wait how much is yours?

[tepid hound]

i can maybe find 2nd hand

[tepid hound]

wdym

[swift forge]

What’s your budget

[tepid hound]

$150 usd

for keyboard + mouse

[swift forge]

.

How much is the keeb

[tepid hound]

uh

140 with shipping

[swift forge]

💀

[tepid hound]

thats why i am looking for better alts

[swift forge]

You’re dead 💀

[tepid hound]

yes (figuratively not literally)

[swift forge]

I mean you could sell old things to earn cash ig

[karmic kestrel]

@tepid hound the razer mamba wireless is pretty great for the price. And the battery life is great.

[spark hatch]

no.

[karmic kestrel]

Care to elaborate?

[spark hatch]

oh shit wait thats a mouse

nvm

carry on

sorry!

[karmic kestrel]

Yeah i saw when he mentioned his budget it was for a keyboard and mouse.

[karmic kestrel]

All good

[swift forge]

I have a sketchy plan but it might work, buy off Japanese Amazon

Yen is like 100 NZD my side, worth even more there

Actually other way around

1 NZD = 100 Yen

And roughly 1.5 NZD is 1 USD so you might find luck

[tepid hound]

foreign exchange fees make it instantly not worth it

and when ordering from a diff store to import it in the country u live in u need to pay fees

[swift forge]

Oh well

[dark dawn]

Yo, i currently have a Zowie EC1-A and want to buy a backup in case something happens to it but its not being produced anymore so therefore im looking for mice with similar size/shape, the zowie models are so confusing and do not make much sense, what i care about most is the giant size of it which fits my hand well

[zenith jewel]

I'm considering getting the Logitech G 413 TKL SE as a birthday present. Is it good?

[chrome raft]

why don't you make a custom keyboard instead

the person who is recieving it will be happy

and same prize and customization

@zenith jewel

https://xtrfy.com/custom-keyboard-builder

[zenith jewel]

it's a birthday present for me actually
and I'm too lazy to make a custom one

[modest creek]

anyone know when another qk65 buy goes up?

[swift forge]

Grab him a Keychron c1 instead

[swift forge]

Pulsar Xlite series

Always praised for copying the EC-2s shape, at least

but ergo

Perhaps also check out the endgame XM1r, or wait for its wireless xm2w to release

@dark dawn

If you’re a die hard Zowie, grab the Zowie EC1-C, improved with a better cable and lighter weight

though you could save the EC1-A and more money altogether by taking off the mouse feet, opening the mouse internals and desoldering the Huano switches then resoldering on your own choice

[swift forge]

Glorious GMMK 2, you won't regret it

If you're fine with a 65% design or 96% near-full-size

[errant latch]

does anyone have a good suggestion for ortholinear keyboard? not those 40% one, i find that format lack of essential funtion keys

[surreal heath]

creator board

cant think of name brand

ltt did a short circuit on it with tarin

[errant latch]

thanks for the suggestions, i already decided to buy the moonlander, if i gonna have to get use to ortholinear layout, might as well get ergo split keyboard layout at the same time, im already start to feel some problem with my wrist so might as well

[latent blaze]

Keychron anything, k series is good c series also good but less good

Much better qc than gmmk in my experience

[faint willow]

can anyone give good recommendations for a board that’s
tkl or smaller
hotswapp
decent stock stabs
decent sound
not too pricy

[swift forge]

Second gen GMMK has better Qc if you order from glorious own website

[swift forge]

Keychron C1

And the aforementioned GMMK 2

[faint willow]

is the build quality on that any good

[swift forge]

If you’re willing to pay a premium, Ducky One 3 TKL, SF (65%) or mini

[swift forge]

Alu top plate, plastic body

[faint willow]

i mean quality control

[swift forge]

Yea, as far as I’ve seen

Ducky might do better though

[faint willow]

ok thanks

[swift forge]

Or Keychron

Just be sure to order from Glorious website for best qc

Amazon killed it for many

[latent blaze]

Good to know, did they fix the stabs?

[spark hatch]

Id personally get akeychron or akko

but glorious is ok

[latent blaze]

yeah i think overall keychron and akko is just better

[swift forge]

I don't see anyone complaining about the stabs at least

what happened to them in the first place?

[spark hatch]

they were bad, over lubed, supper mushhy, rattling issues

[swift forge]

well I mean to avoid that you can just go on glorious website and custom everything

for a GMMK order

[spark hatch]

wdym? how can you avoid bad stabs from a company?

[swift forge]

nvm

you were talking about the GMMK Pro, GMMK 2 doesn't have this issue

all the stab issues were coming from the GMMK Pro

[spark hatch]

ah I see

still personally would go fro a keychorn or akko over gmmk tho

[swift forge]

GMMK 2 is 65% and 96%, comes in black/white/pink, not as many customisation options but still ok

most notably, no volume knob

[chrome raft]

go on this website and they will make a custom website for you

[spark hatch]

Anyone happen to recognize this board? That "hoop" in the bottom Beasle looks very familiar but I can't remember where I've seen it or what it's called

[smoky valley]

yo

i need help

anyone can help me ? with my keybored ?

when i press w it inputs ws and when i press s same input sw

its like when the whole middle lines qa ws ed rf ht

[urban panther]

dammm, keychron launched another board today

those guys are fast

[crimson isle]

looks like any generic keyboard, lol

[night briar]

F4 key has LED, but wont work

I guess im immune from the alt f4 prank

[spark hatch]

figured it out, its the Kbd67

[chrome raft]

from a 30$ keyboard, mouse, and headset pack from ross

its not that bad actually

[crimson isle]

and then you find out it has a second latency

[bright seal]

My friend is asking about the best pre-built gaming keyboard, and I figure y’all could help. I’m more into PC hardware so I’m not much help with keyboards

[leaden smelt]

I gotta say this ducky keyboard is noice, especially compared to Razer keyboards. No missed keys anymore!

[chrome raft]

gmmk pro

[restive mica]

what switches are those ?

[opaque shard]

From left to right: Choc V1, Choc Mini, Choc X

I think the last one is called Choc X...

I'll design my next keyboard to use the Choc Mini at least, gonna be fun

[restive mica]

cool thanks :3

[opaque shard]

I currently use Choc V1, it's just slightly taller than I want it

I'll probably design one for Choc X after that, but I've gotta design a footprint for it and also figure how I can make it hot-swappable

[restive mica]

i have the Keychron K3V2 Nordic ISO layout with low profile gateron Red switches

[opaque shard]

I think those are like 1-2mm taller than the Choc V1s

Damn, that picture had poor lighting

I'll take another

[neat rain]

So i have a Keychron hot swap im really happy with, but is there any quick way to swap and reprogram keys? cause i badly want to swap the alt and windows key 😛 im too used to having the alt key being where the windows key sits rn

[chilly perch]

Boba u4 switches came in today

They sure are quiet

Kinda feel like nice membranes tho lol

68g might be a little bit too much

[spark hatch]

you can spring swap if its too heavy for you

[analog gyro]

If you plan on spring swapping you can get second hand keebs on places like FB marketplace for cheap and just take out the springs.
I did this with my ergo clears, think I paid $20 for the second hand full size keyboard, if I had gotten the springs alone they would be $25 + shipping/

[analog gyro]

Depends on which one, if it has QMK/VIA support then yes

[crude sluice]

that reminds me of this

idk man theres a resemblance some how

[swift forge]

Me looking at a person who seriously invested time into making an ant trap

[crude sluice]

💀💀💀

[crude sluice]

­

[swift forge]

I say this not because I know it looked like a power generator of some sort, but because of the raised plastic ends which remind me of the metal rod used in mouse traps. But its form factor was much smaller and you posted an image of an insect, so I said ant trap

[restive mica]

what do i do now ? i tried taking the switch out with the tool it came with and it ripped the top part off and i cant get the bottom half out

anyone that can help ?

[analog gyro]

Are you sure the board is hotswap?

[swift forge]

I’m relatively nerfed in terms of keyboard knowledge but what about blowing a hairdryer right to the bottom half of the switch to “desolder” it?

at highest heat settings that is

[analog gyro]

No, that would not work lol

[swift forge]

Guessed

Otherwise why you need a fume exhaust system for that paste if you’re not fire blasting it

[analog gyro]

Desoldering usually happens at somewhere around 250-300 degrees celcius, a blow dryer isn't gonna reach that

[swift forge]

maybe a plasma cutter if they can find it?

Chances are they have engineer family

[analog gyro]

God no

Plasma cutter will destroy it

[swift forge]

Well at least they’d remove it right-

[swift forge]

At a given distance heat will dissipate enough to not kill it

[analog gyro]

If it is hotswap you should be able to remove it by inserting the tool under the lower part of the switch, in the middle. There are "clips" on the sides of it holding it into the top plate.

[swift forge]

Like 10cm or more if necessary

[analog gyro]

Clearly you don't know how a plasma cutter works lol

[swift forge]

Yea nvm

I don’t mean using the actual blade or whatever

[analog gyro]

And even then it would be easier to get a soldering iron lol

[swift forge]

Oh crap nvm just saw one of those 💀

I was thinking something else

When I saw the power box or whatever trails behind the main cutter, nuh uh

[swift forge]

Are you sure it was a switch puller, or did you confuse it with a keycap puller

And that suspiciously looks familiar, Razer keyboard?

[analog gyro]

This thing keeps it held into the plate and needs to be pushed in by the switch puller. But like I said check if it is hotswap first @restive mica

[swift forge]

Judging by the number of pings and no response I think he fell asleep

[analog gyro]

or ignoring discord since they are online

either way those switches look like gateron low profile, which idt Razer has ever used

[swift forge]

Yea nvm they looked a bit like generic gaming switches, confused them with the Logitech GL Linears at first then thought of the Razer Red optical switches

then I noticed the round shape of the middle stems enclosure, and thought they were Kailh Box Reds or something

[analog gyro]

you mean the romer-g or the low profile switches?

[swift forge]

Needless to say, more thoughts than my brain cells could retain zipped through my head

[swift forge]

the stuff going into the Logitech G815 and G915

The lower profile switches from Logi, yes

[analog gyro]

Yea those are modified kailh choc v1's

[swift forge]

Termed the GL Linear, Tactile and Clicky

Well at least I’ll know what they feel like now

[analog gyro]

Basically just made a special stem so they can use proprietary keycaps, cuz screw consumers

[swift forge]

Owned a G815 before

The GX series on the other hand went into the G512, G513, G Pro and G Pro X keyboards

sorry I used to be indoctrinated by the tomfoolery of gaming companies, so I know a lot about their keyboards :p

[analog gyro]

I have a G915 tkl wireless I plan on swapping switches on,I just haven|t gotten around to it. I still need to figure out if I'm going with choc v1's or say screw it and go to v2's

More keycap support, but not as low profile

You can see here the v2 is slightly taller

[swift forge]

I mean the ones which are soldered are V1s

You could troll a friend with that same keyboard by taking out their generic switches and put on V1s, then invite them to this server and get a ton of praise lmao

For modding a keyboard

And he’ll have no idea what happened

[analog gyro]

I don't think Logitech makes any hotswap boards, either way the one I have is soldered, but I'm still swapping the switches

[swift forge]

I OWN A HOTSWAP BOARD from them rn

The new Logitech Pro X keyboard

Comes with a keycap puller and switch puller too, pepeyay

Installed are the full height cousins of the GLs called the GX Blue switches

By default that is

[analog gyro]

Wasn't aware they had made any hotswp, but then again I rarely pay attention to mainstream keeb companies as most of it is garbage

[swift forge]

You can take them out, and change both keycap and switch

[analog gyro]

I just got the g915 tkl wireless to have a low profile keeb to use with my tv

[swift forge]

Lol

Logitech Pro X is quite a simple keyboard, straightforward

You have your RGB and “Game Mode” toggle, and some extra functions printed into the keycaps on the far right side of a QWERTY deck

Good thing is the RGB and windows lock toggles aren’t as mushy as on the G8/915s

[analog gyro]

just get a wkl board

[swift forge]

The game mode toggle is the thing that looks like an arcade joystick btw, should be to the right of the Bluetooth and Lightspeed connectivty toggles on your keeb

[swift forge]

I mean the Logitech Pro X is TKL if that’s what you mean

[analog gyro]

wkl, windows keyless

[swift forge]

It was and still is the sponsored keeb for CS:GO tourneys worldwide

[swift forge]

It was popular when Shroud played comp at least

[swift forge]

Yea, like HHKB

[analog gyro]

Shroud was being paid big money to only use logitech products lol

[swift forge]

Though not many people know of it, so their knowledge gap is exploited

[analog gyro]

No hhkb is different

[swift forge]

Still doesn’t have a windows key

[swift forge]

[analog gyro]

This is hhkb, it changes the layout

[swift forge]

Yea

But you only mentioned no windows

[swift forge]

He has a mouse of his own and an entire Logitech set of gear dedicated to him

[analog gyro]

wkl is a regular layout with the windows key removed, the hhkb is a different layout

[swift forge]

And I don’t think he’s ditching the G303 Shroud Edition anytime soon

[analog gyro]

for example there's no hhkb tkl afaik

but there is a wkl tkl

I mean I use logitech mice, but I also changed the switches and sensor so it's mainly the shell and the rotary encoder that's left lol

[swift forge]

Welp many gaming companies and known gaming keyboard enthusiasts brands have made great leaps in the field of reducing input lag from a keeb, so until there are exclusively wkl keebs for that purpose ig most people will default to gaming keebs and the like until some latency “improvements” are made

Ducky One 3 and Glorious GMMK series, to name the enthusiast brands

[analog gyro]

Ah I see you have been fooled by their gaming bs advertising

[swift forge]

RTINGS may not test their total response time (key travel and actuation) but actuation alone is pretty fast

[analog gyro]

No wired keyboard is gonna have any input lag

[swift forge]

That’s…. Bsish

I mean data still has to travel through a wire to the computer, then through the computer itself to a processor to process a keystroke, and that takes time too

[analog gyro]

You|re not gonna see any difference between a razer or logitech keyboard and a custom keeb in terms of input lag

at least not for wired

[swift forge]

And depending on key pre travel that can take a while, since you need to count the time it takes for the switch to reach actuation point as well

[analog gyro]

Noooooooooooooooooo

More bs

[swift forge]

Not with most keyboard nowadays for normal users no

[analog gyro]

Don't listen to gaming companies lol

[swift forge]

this is my observation too, I notice this lag

[analog gyro]

switch travel has nothing to do with gaming lol

Bruh

Ur brainwashed if u do lol

[swift forge]

What, just because a different thought emerges it’s ♻️

Well if everyone had to ask then nothing would happen in the first place

[analog gyro]

No, but all this marketing bs is just bs to sell gaming keyboards. There is no input lag difference between a gaming keeb and a custom keeb

[swift forge]

No noticeable difference for normal people no

I acknowledge that marketing is out of control and marketers are exaggerating

[analog gyro]

There is no difference lol

[swift forge]

I’m not indoctrinated anymore, snapped out a while ago

[analog gyro]

Do you have any proof to backup the claims of a difference?

Or do you just listen to Logitech and razer etc.?

[swift forge]

Rn I’m just trying to say, zero lag is not a thing.

The human eye just can’t detect it because we are used to slower timings

[analog gyro]

I didn't say there was such a thing, but the difference between a logitech and a custom keeb is 0

[swift forge]

I know that.

Well I mean as someone who’s been playing racing games for quite a long time, I can say even using my Magic Keyboard wired, the latency is 💩

I press drift I hit wall when trying to drift because it takes 2 seconds to respond

[analog gyro]

If it is the wireless apple keyboard it uses wireless even when plugged in, it just uses the cable to charge

so that makes sense

[swift forge]

You sure about that?

Well wireless didn’t work for one of my friends, she plugged in the lightning charging cable and their MK worked

[analog gyro]

Yea, there is no way to use it wired afaik

[swift forge]

Really now

So you’re telling me Apple EarPods are wireless?

[restive mica]

thanks for all the replyes . the switch was soldered so i have to unsolder it . put the switch back together and then solder it back in

[analog gyro]

Nah, just put the spring on, the stem on the spring and push the housing on

No need to remove it to put it back together

[analog gyro]

Maybe the older ones work wired, but I know the newer ones don't

[swift forge]

All imma say is, if that switch in particular fails sometime soon remember today 😉

[restive mica]

its has 4 small tabs on the side that almost broke .. so could not get it back together without braking that completely

[analog gyro]

That won't change by removing the switch, those tabs are there to keep the switch toether

[restive mica]

well yes i know

[analog gyro]

removing the switch won't change that

[restive mica]

but i have to take it out to get it it all back in

[swift forge]

In that case, so long as it’s not something metal it won’t interfere with switch operating if broken or deformed

From what I know

[analog gyro]

If the clips break the switch won't keep itself together and the spring will just push it off

[swift forge]

Well, save for the stem in the middle

[analog gyro]

That's why the clips are there

[restive mica]

[analog gyro]

I mean worst case superglue could work, but that is kind of a jank solution lol

[swift forge]

Tiny kinetic missile. Now I know how to turn my keyboard into a lethal weapon.

love it

[restive mica]

i have to get a new switch anyways

[analog gyro]

Good time to get a custom keeb

Something with hotswap sockets

[restive mica]

its a Keychron K3 RGB V2

[analog gyro]

Wait

[swift forge]

No wonder Gateron vibes

[analog gyro]

that thing is hotswap

[swift forge]

LETS go

[restive mica]

it came with a switch pulling tool .. so i was sure i could pull the switches

[swift forge]

Well faulty socket ig

[analog gyro]

nah, it sounds like user error (no offense)

[restive mica]

and there is nowhere it says the switches cant be pulled

[swift forge]

@restive mica the switch puller should look something like a round metal circle with two thin sticks extending downwards

[analog gyro]

I would ask in their discord for help, I'm not too sure how it works with those low profile switches

[restive mica]

yes i know what the tool is

[analog gyro]

I can't post invite link -.-

[restive mica]

yeah LTT bot is angry at lots of stuff

[analog gyro]

angy bot

but yea if u join their discord they can help with that

Like I said not sure how the low profile switches work for hotswap

[restive mica]

seems like its only the optical ones that are made to hotswap

tho the word "hotswap" comes from the server world and means that you can pull it out with power still on .. so the meaning was lost to me .

[swift forge]

Yea I heard that somewhere too

[restive mica]

using of that word for removable is just wrong

[analog gyro]

Hotswap in the keeb world just means it can be swapped without having to de-solder

[restive mica]

well just put in removable ..

[analog gyro]

Just because a word has a different meaning in another context doesn't make it wrong

All switches are removable, just some require a soldering iron

[analog gyro]

Like I said context matters

[swift forge]

Well in the server world to have something still function normally after being suddenly shut down is like being able to take a kb switch out and put another in, for the entire keyboard to still work afterwards

so hotswap is perfect in a more comprehensive context

[restive mica]

but there is no info anywhere i cant find that says that the switches are soldered

this is just going to annoy me forever now

[analog gyro]

Generally speaking unless it is listed as hot swap it is soldered

But yea on the product page it looks like it's only the optical that is

Still very weird that they send a switch puller with a non hotswap board

[restive mica]

then they could put some more info about it -.-

[analog gyro]

Well like I said unless it has hot swap listed it isn't.
It's like how some PC cases can come with a PSU, but it isn't listed that the ones without doesn't come without one

The ones that do just list them as case with psu

[boreal rivet]

why dont you just open it up

and look at the pcb

[analog gyro]

It isn't hot swap, we already got to that point

He was just asking why they don't list it on the product page

[boreal rivet]

oh ok

if its not hotswap why would they list it?

its not a requirement, just a qol feature and marketing point

[restive mica]

because they sent a switch removal tool with it ?

[boreal rivet]

ok and

[analog gyro]

To be fair their product page is super confusing to someone not in the keeb world

Like the page for the non hotswap still talks about the hotswap version

[boreal rivet]

it shouldn't take a genius to figure out these things though lol

[restive mica]

..

im out

[analog gyro]

Maybe not to someone well versed in the keeb hobby, but to someone new I could see why it is confusing. Especially when they send a switch puller with the board, that just sends mixed signals imo

[boreal rivet]

logically if you see a switch puller included, but the board is not advertised as hotswap, one could infer that they included it as a bonus for when you do decide to desolder

[analog gyro]

When the product page has both hotswap and non hotswap and one is included it could be confusing, if you don't see that idk what to tell ya

[boreal rivet]

i'm just not stupid enough to jump to conclusions without proper research lol

[analog gyro]

Kinda uncalled for if you ask me

[boreal rivet]

would you like me to rephrase it so as to not offend redandblue

[analog gyro]

I think he already stopped paying attention to the chat

[blazing birch]

Is Razer huntsman mini good gaming keyboard

[pulsar yoke]

God no.

Just cheaply made, about as bad as a V1 Ornata

[blazing birch]

What's a good quality gaming keyboard ~$100

[crimson isle]

why specifically V1, is V2 worse?

[pulsar yoke]

As the unlucky owner of two V1 Ornatas, I can attest to the shoddy build quality and awful 'mecha-membrane' keycaps. It's a membrane keyboard with fake metal clips to simulate a mechanical click. the V1s clips are so cheap and thin they wear out in months and the key wobble and depth changes drastically

[crimson isle]

Used to have one, took the clips out, tho the plastic housing broke over time and couldn’t keep the caps in place

[pulsar yoke]

yeah. sounds like a proper ornata experience lmao

[blazing birch]

What's a good quality gaming keyboard ~$100

[graceful prawn]

what is a group buy in keyboards

i was looking into custom keyboards today and my world has been flipped upside down

[chrome raft]

basically there's a period where you can buy something then after everyone pays the thing is made and shipped

it usually takes a long time

[crimson isle]

"long time"

6-24 months

from what I've seen

[chrome raft]

yeah that's about right

[crimson isle]

people be waiting 20 months for some keycaps, lel

[chrome raft]

gmk 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[analog gyro]

I really dislike GMK's sales model. It's so anti consumer it hurts, it's just how can we make the most profit with the least amount of work / investment

[crimson isle]

as long as people buy from them they'll continue doing so

[graceful prawn]

well they are a business

anyone have any "thocky" keyboard recommendations

preferably wireless and prebuilt

[crimson isle]

the only thing you can do is go onto reddit, and try to make everyone boycott it

[analog gyro]

I am aware of why they do it, I just really dislike it

It's just taking advantage of a saturated market

[crimson isle]

when will there be a keyboard that sounds like hitting your spoon against the bowl

[analog gyro]

Solonoids

[spark hatch]

https://iqunix.store/

[analog gyro]

Iqunix is probably your best bet for a prebuilt, but in general you get more for your money if you get a kit

[graceful prawn]

which is the best switch

[spark hatch]

no best

all preferance

[graceful prawn]

ive never tried any of these before

if you had to pick which are you taking

cherry blue, cherry red and cherry pink are all sold out

[analog gyro]

What kind of switch do you like, tactile, linear or clicky?

[spark hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834558873398411335/949563928831201281/Linear-vs-Tactile-vs-Clicky-Infographic-1.png?size=4096

[graceful prawn]

i want the "thocky" noise you see in those youtube videos

im going to assume it's not clicky or tactile

aight

thanks

[spark hatch]

tactiles can be deep

[crimson isle]

and I hate all of them

[graceful prawn]

there is no mx green option in any of these

🗿

[spark hatch]

holy pandas and gateron ink blacks are often thought to be deep

[spark hatch]

thats a clickly switch, not going to be deep

[crimson isle]

what is the worst switch

according to all of humanity

I'll use it

[chrome raft]

some leaf spring switch probably

chyrosran22 grindset

[analog gyro]

Mx green was a joke, that's why I put the

[graceful prawn]

i see

[latent blaze]

Cherry mx brown

[swift forge]

Ducky One 3 mini I believe

That's 60% though

[blazing birch]

Is that tkl or full size or 60%

[latent blaze]

Or a keychron or akko board

[spark hatch]

^

[boreal rivet]

get topre

and silence it

zero effort "thock"

[limpid furnace]

Whats a Good keyboard?

[swift forge]

One that’s not a mainstream gaming keyboard with trash marketing, and without vague descriptions like “wireless keyboard with clicky switch”

Because wireless could mean USB Receiver wireless, and clicky switches could be MX Blues, very stiff membrane boards or Kailhs or the lord knows what

[analog gyro]

what's ur budget, do you want linear, clicky or tactile and what size?

[crimson isle]

I mean, wireless is 99% of the time with usb receiver, otherwise bluetooth

[swift forge]

I meant those knockoff brands which don’t specify which :p

[river ermine]

best keyboard tenkeyless linear around 100 dollar (2,000 egp) or less budget, needs quick response time. looking for rgb (with software) white would be nice but black would do -suppliers https://games2egypt.com https://sigma-computer.com https://amazon.eg

[boreal rivet]

just get topre

save and buy topre

nah i have a gpro

[river ermine]

from those sites which fits criteria

@hasty saffron @boreal rivet

is topre jst logitch

[boreal rivet]

no

just get something simple idk

[river ermine]

i currently have redragon daska

blues

[boreal rivet]

thats fine

why do you want to upgrade

[river ermine]

annoying sounds and rgb is set to one color per key

so theres like one line of yellow one line of red etc

also response time

[spark hatch]

Keychron or akko

[river ermine]

are those companies?

[spark hatch]

Mhm

[river ermine]

nonee on amazon

[spark hatch]

Leopold is also good but I think they'd be alittle over budget? Not 100% on that tho

[spark hatch]

Has to be on amazon?

[river ermine]

https://games2egypt.com/ https://sigma-computer.com/ https://amazon.eg/

or any egyptan supplier

[spark hatch]

Oh I see

Durgod is alr

Pretty sure theyyon amazon

[river ermine]

not didnt find

could u find any then send link

[spark hatch]

Hmm ok, what about rk87

RK ROYAL KLUDGE RK87 Sink87G RGB Wireless TKL Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, 87 Keys No Numpad Tenkeyless Compact 2.4G Wireless Keyboard with Tactile Brown Switches, Exceptional Macro Settings https://a.co/d/20h3LFl

[river ermine]

https://www.amazon.eg/-/en/HyperX-OriginsTM-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B08XBQ79MN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1PQOQ012G6KV3&keywords=rk61&qid=1657294256&sprefix=rk%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-1&th=1

this ok?

https://www.amazon.eg/-/en/HyperX-HX-KB6RDX-US-Origins-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B07W86N3JV/ref=pd_sbs_sccl_2_1/258-9576953-6528868?pd_rd_w=ipWuG&content-id=amzn1.sym.104e5f4c-3986-4576-b835-79acb1258114&pf_rd_p=104e5f4c-3986-4576-b835-79acb1258114&pf_rd_r=1VV7YK4Z40YT57BBWYSD&pd_rd_wg=02S9L&pd_rd_r=6d4537c2-cebb-4245-a50f-75b7087336db&pd_rd_i=B07W86N3JV&psc=1

https://www.amazon.eg/-/en/HyperX-HX-KB7RDX-US-Origins-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B07YMHGP86/ref=pd_vtp_sccl_3_3/258-9576953-6528868?pd_rd_w=0QTu3&content-id=amzn1.sym.8e28e5fa-16a4-439a-9740-4461998fb944&pf_rd_p=8e28e5fa-16a4-439a-9740-4461998fb944&pf_rd_r=1VV7YK4Z40YT57BBWYSD&pd_rd_wg=02S9L&pd_rd_r=6d4537c2-cebb-4245-a50f-75b7087336db&pd_rd_i=B07YMHGP86&psc=1

[prisma venture]

can someone recommend me a really good tkl mehc keyboard for a max of 80 gbp

[chrome raft]

Obviously mechanical

[spark hatch]

Not really

[chrome raft]

Try zebronics zeb transformer

[spark hatch]

It's still all preferance

[chrome raft]

Yeah but man it has a soothing sound

Perfect for the ears

[spark hatch]

Ngl they keyboard looks like a piece of shit

[chrome raft]

[spark hatch]

also that's full size they wanted tkl

[spark hatch]

Keychron c1 is pretty good for the price

[crimson isle]

"sigma computers"

[graceful prawn]

how are vissiles keyboards

[swift forge]

I’ve heard things about the Pulsar Lunar Alloy, I’ll get back to you once I’ve seen some reviews

[prisma venture]

alr

[swift forge]

For around $40 you can get the Pulsar PCMK, which is 3-pin and 5-pin hotswap with MX, Kailh, Gateron and Outemu switches I believe

actually hold on that’s USD

[swift forge]

Do you type with ANSI or a US standard layout?

ANSI is the layout where the enter key spans two rows in height, like it’s very noticeable

US has $ as the secondary function of 4 instead of £

Either way the Pulsar PCMK is £83 for the ANSI layout and £64 for the US standard

This is barebones though so you do need your own switches and keycaps

For a prebuilt look no further than the Keychron C1

[woeful lantern]

ansi is the us style tho iso is the uk style

[prisma venture]

alr then ty

[swift forge]

Yea mb

[latent blaze]

If you can stretch the extra 5£ then the K8 from keychron is really good

[prisma venture]

its more than 5 lol

[latent blaze]

Ofc shipping is quite expensive typically so factor that

didnt you say 80£ budget?

Or was that someone else

https://www.keychron.uk/collections/keychron-uk-iso-layout-keyboards/products/keychron-k8-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-uk-iso-layout this one

[limpid furnace]

Best budget keychron?

[spark hatch]

C1 or c@

C2