peripherals

[wind oyster]

look up keychron k1 v4

low profile

[unkempt dome]

Kailh chock

[wind oyster]

yep

[unkempt dome]

Is it hotswap ?

[wind oyster]

i dont think so

[unkempt dome]

Sad

[wind oyster]

yep

and i paid like $80 for it

for the keyboard when i first got it

also 1 more thing with anything other than keyboards and other peripherals are wired always cheaper than wireless?

[unkempt dome]

Just Google search kailh choc keycaps

[wind oyster]

wait is it rly that easy? i literally thought i needed keycaps from keychron themselves

[unkempt dome]

Most of the time wired is cheaper yes

Those are kailh choc switches so keycaps made specially for them will most likely fit ... just be sure that there's not the + shaped stem

[wind oyster]

like theyre kinda kail choc keycaps but theyre like curved

[unkempt dome]

Yes like most keycaps are ...

[wind oyster]

do they sell on amazon

[unkempt dome]

Those are not really common switches so choice will be more limited

[wind oyster]

oh

[unkempt dome]

I've seen some I think yes in my Google search

[wind oyster]

k

but i dont need the specific ones found on keychron website

\even tho i reached out to them about a replacement and it was sent to my college address not my home address lol

[unkempt dome]

Not that I know of

[wind oyster]

i see

wait where would i buy the switches

all i see is aliexpress

[unkempt dome]

Well don't you need just the keycaps ?

[wind oyster]

ya

[unkempt dome]

https://mkultra.click/amp/mbk-choc-keycaps

https://chosfox.com/products/chosfox-kailh-choc-low-profile-keycaps-104keys

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174516805607?hash=item28a2031fe7:g:GbIAAOSwCatfrj2W

That's about what I can find

[chrome raft]

I see

[hexed bear]

Ornata v2

I got the razer homerun bundle for $111 CAD. What U guys think?

[chrome raft]

yeah that keyboard is trash

but you still got a mouse and headset for like 111 cad

[hexed bear]

Y?

[boreal rivet]

Because its a rubber dome hurdur

All things considered in terms of feel its pretty good for a membrane rubberdome

[ionic briar]

yea
the click leaf kinda stupid imo

[boreal rivet]

I like it

It creates a subtle sharp bump

[oak zenith]

Cope

[boreal rivet]

I already drink copium everyday

[junior sentinel]

is the skyline 75% kit any good? or should save up and get the gmmk pro

[wind oyster]

@unkempt dome just wondering whats ur thoughts on something like tecware phantom 87 keyboard? i know its not wireless but i think it still looks cool

any tecware phantom enjoyers?

[unkempt dome]

No idea... never took a look at it

[wind oyster]

k. well now im kinda thinking of getting it

either the 87 or 100% depending if i rly need the numpad

btw this is something interesting about it. the 104/100% version with outemu red switches is only $40 whereas the 87 one is $45

[chrome raft]

you should not get the gmmk pro

[charred garden]

ducky skyline tkl? i have that one, brown switch version. a bit harder to press then my blue switches ducky one 2 sf i had before this one but feels very nice and ofcourse good quality

ordered a different keycaps set too

default grey looks nice though

this one right?

[junior sentinel]

this one

https://epomaker.com/products/epomaker-skyline-75-kit?variant=39746519957577

[charred garden]

ahh ok

mb

[chrome raft]

tray mount

[unkempt dome]

And ... that doesn't change the fact it's a nice board

[boreal rivet]

If its not gasket it's bad

Also if its not metal its bad

And if its not gmk it's bad

[spark hatch]

thats preferance
theres nice plastic and acrilic boards?
I can agree altho I've never used gmk so

[unkempt dome]

I think he was sarcastic ...

And yes it's all preference

[spark hatch]

oh maybe, I didnt read any of the past convocation

[spark hatch]

muted lmao

[chrome raft]

mounting style is 100% preference

but tray mount sucks

[unkempt dome]

Not really

it's not cause you don't like it that it suck

it's still preference

[chrome raft]

no its just straight up bad

its just worse top mount

[unkempt dome]

And why is that

[chrome raft]

sound and typing feel isnt uniform

[unkempt dome]

Does it makes the keyboard ineffective?

[chrome raft]

some keys feel stiffer then others

[chrome raft]

ineffective at what

[spark hatch]

BEING A KEYBOARD

oops caps lock

[chrome raft]

yeah you can also use a bare pcb as a keyboard

[unkempt dome]

Still preference

[chrome raft]

ehh not really

[unkempt dome]

Yes totally

[chrome raft]

whether a mounting style is preference or not is preference

[unkempt dome]

Cause some don't care about the sound
Some don't care about the stiffness or not

Just cause you don't like it doesn't make a tray mount keyboard crap

[chrome raft]

just get top mount

top mount is better then tray mount in every way

[unkempt dome]

Yeah cause you say so

[chrome raft]

ok well give me 1 reason why top mount is worse then tray mount

or how tray mount is better then top mount

[unkempt dome]

Never said top mount was worst

it's preference and that's it

[chrome raft]

well you said try mount isnt worse then top mount

tray

so give me a reason for that

[unkempt dome]

Never said that either

[chrome raft]

you said its preference and preference means that you at least have a single reason to choose one over the other

so tell me a reason why you would choose tray mount over top mount

[unkempt dome]

Cause some might like one more than the other

[chrome raft]

because of what

[unkempt dome]

Never said it was my preference

But every time someone talk about a tray mount it's immediately it suck cause it's tray mount

[chrome raft]

i just need you to give me a hypothetical reason to chooose tray mount over top mount

[ionic briar]

cause it still gives you a fine working keyboard?
at the end of the day, its just a way to secure the pcb to the case

[chrome raft]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795172959219220483/984833944316956672/IMG_8949.gif

[unkempt dome]

No it's not a fine working keyboard if it's tray mount it suck ... he said it so many times so it must be true

[spark hatch]

cheaper to manufacture maybe?

[chrome raft]

top mount also gives you a fine working keyboard

[unkempt dome]

I'll just burn all my keyboards that are tray mount then

[chrome raft]

maybe

[chrome raft]

im not saying you should burn all your tray mount keyboard im saying that with everything else being the same, you should choose top mount over tray mount

[unkempt dome]

Well you said countless time tray mount is shit so why should I not burn them ... I would not sell them ... would not want to submit other people to that horrible experience ...

[old palm]

I want a new keyboard, I don't need one but i want one

[spark hatch]

lmao

[unkempt dome]

Keychron Q series

Uber board cause it's got all the latest craze it's gasket mount, south facing, aluminum case and a knob

it's a bit expensive if you are not in the usa

[chrome raft]

if you sell it at a low enough price tray mount is ok

if you target a market which only cares about a working keyboard

nothing else

[ionic briar]

yea
and the only keyboard available to me is a top mount board, i would def buy it cause it works
what i see is that we are pushing the idea of: mounting style does not matter unless you care about those subjective traits like key feel and sound consistency, which i bet a lot of consumer doesnt really care as much as keyboard enthusiasts.
they care more about the longevity of the board than how each key sounds and feels like.

we have no reason to prefer one mounting style to another. you asked us for a reason to prefer one to another.

the same thing happens in audio tbh, i can guide ppl to headphones that provide a difference experience, arguably a better experience, but if the guy doesnt listen to stuff that really highlights the technical superiority, then its prob for nothing.

its just so happens that the enthusiasts market helps pushing nicer built boards down to a more affordable price point for consumer

[chrome raft]

most consumers wont feel the difference between mounting styles

but objectively top mount is better then tray mount

[unkempt dome]

Well I can now say that akko board suck now cause they are tray mount

[ionic briar]

cause the force distribution between mounting points are more consistent with top mount than tray mount?

[chrome raft]

yes

[unkempt dome]

Which seriously doesn't matter much for the majority of people

[chrome raft]

yeah

but its still objectively better then tray mount

[unkempt dome]

it's still preference

[chrome raft]

no

[unkempt dome]

Yes

[spark hatch]

what keyboard?

gamekey?

[jagged ginkgo]

My uni arrived the other week

[jagged ginkgo]

looks like a GAMAKAY MK61 with switched out WASD

probably some sort of gateron optical, maybe the yellow exclusive v2s

(but it is hotswap too so could be anything)

[spark hatch]

ah

[pine turret]

Hey, anyone got a good recommendation for a decent keyboard that's around or under $100 CAD. I tried doing some research but half the stuff goes way over my head. I'll mostly use it for gaming and sometimes yyping up essays or something or my uni. I don't really mind the noice, although something more quiet would be preferred as to not disturb people in the rooms next to mine.

[chrome raft]

gamakay mk61

some things are preference where some things aren't

[chrome raft]

nice

[unkempt dome]

And in this case it is preference

[chrome raft]

no it isnt

inconsistent typing feel and sound is just straight up bad

[graceful marsh]

Quick question, is it possible to replace the chord on a hybrid steelseries? or if it stops working is it bricked?

[spark hatch]

what size kb? and any features you want? like wireless, which would be nice for school

[unkempt dome]

As bad as you think it is ... It still is preference.

[cinder coral]

as an example. Had a friend who used different switches for WASD and other gaming related alphas than the rest of his board. Was not necessarily consistent for typing, but was pretty cool for his purpose.

the guy also happens to be a crazy tetris champ

he won some competition some years ago i forget which.

[pine turret]

I have quite a lot of desk space so I don't mind either a small keyboard or a full size one. Also wired is just fine

[unkempt dome]

Yes that is still preference.... I would not do that but I would not say things like it's objectively bad cause the feeling is inconsistent and the sound is shit ... I still respect the choice of the person cause it's preference

[cinder coral]

yeah ngl, i'd never do it either.

Closest ive ever done to that was swapping the housing out on an oil king with the housing from an akko jelly black so that I could see the LED on my caps lock. The only LED i wanted visible.

[spark hatch]

keychron c1 or c2. or any akko keyboard

[crimson isle]

tfw you can balance your phone on a corner on top of your keyboard without it pressing down the keys

[pine turret]

Alright thx, I'll definitely look into those

[wind oyster]

Is the royal kludge rk87 wireless keyboard rly Mechanical? Maybe it’s my perception from the images on Amazon but they don’t look mechanical

And what’s the coating they used for the top of the keycaps on each key

[ivory heath]

My Kailh Box Burnt Oranges came in today and I can't even feel a bump when I actuate them

[spark hatch]

yea, they're a light tactile

[spark hatch]

what specific one are you looking at? can you send a link?

it should be mechanical tho yes

[spark hatch]

cheap abs

just replace them if you dont like them

[wind oyster]

https://www.amazon.com/RK-Sink87G-Wireless-Backlight-Mechanical/dp/B07GSWT56W/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1B09PO1I9ZKS2&keywords=royal+kludge+87&qid=1655154562&sprefix=royal+kludge+87+%2Caps%2C93&sr=8-2

also does it have a frame/skirt around it

like it doesnt have that "floating" effect or look kind of thing u see on most mechanical keyboards

with the keycaps

[spark hatch]

yea thats mechanical

[wind oyster]

ok

[spark hatch]

and its got a skirt, just look at the picures

[wind oyster]

i just dont want to make an impulsive purchase then return when i get it and find out its not what i wanted

is the skirt removable?

[spark hatch]

im not sure about that one, dont personally own a royal kludge board

just curious? whats your budget for a board?

[wind oyster]

something thats under $70 or $60

also im looking for something thats wireless

at first i was looking at tecware phantom but thats not wireless and the only reason i looked at it was cuz it has 3 difference cable management channels to position or route the cable through

[spark hatch]

ik its alittle out of budget but akko has some really nice wireless boards

https://akkogear.de/collections/keyboards?sort_by=price-ascending

https://www.keychron.com/collections/keychron-wireless-keyboards

also quite nice

[wind oyster]

oh so ya i acutally have keychron rn

thats wut im using

k1 v4

but im just missing a few keycaps

[spark hatch]

do you like the k1?

[wind oyster]

im more of a tkl person

isnt tkl like 80/85?

aka 84 keys

[spark hatch]

mhm

[wind oyster]

ya. but its the low profile one. also the switch at the top to switch between mac and windows and cable/off and bluetooth kinda broke

like that no longer works

so i just always have to use cable now

[spark hatch]

ah I see

[wind oyster]

and i dont want to fix that part on my own

im not an engineer with that sort of thing

dont wanna go through the hassle of it

[spark hatch]

fair enough

keychron is better quility than royal kludge btw, I would recommend saving for either akko or another keychron instead of downgrading

[wind oyster]

i see.

even better than like reddragon?

fair enough

is akko like similar prices of keychron

and do they have tkl as well?

[spark hatch]

yes. reddragon is at the bottom for build quility

[wind oyster]

oh

fair enough

but also at the same time i dont wanna spend like over or close to $100

[spark hatch]

they're alittle more, they have a fair bit of varity, but for a wireless modle they're alittle more

[wind oyster]

so is like $70 the closest?

[wind oyster]

like how much more?

and does akko have like rgb lighting or any led lighting? in their keyboard?

[spark hatch]

yea, for 70$ keychoron has a model close, akko doesnt have a wireless model at that price that Ik of sadly. rk wouldnt be a bad choice

[spark hatch]

ofc they do

[wind oyster]

cool.

with wireless keychron does wireless via bluetooth only iirc right

i know bluetooth can be good convenance wise but isnt the 2.4ghz dongle a bit faster?

[spark hatch]

oh right, yea I forgot about that. no keychron does not have a 2.4ghz dongle sadly

[spark hatch]

mhm, you'd want 2.4 if you were gaming in it

[wind oyster]

true...

but when i did a search for keychron tkl wireless on google then to amazon i got something interesting

the k8 tkl wireless keyboard is apparently on sale for $67.49

and u would say k8 is an upgrade from k1 right

[spark hatch]

yea

where is that shipping form tho?

[wind oyster]

It’s amazon

[spark hatch]

ah

[wind oyster]

This may sound silly but the rgb version is $71 whereas the white led backlit it $67

I’ll prob just get the white backlit version

Even tho rgb does look cool

And keychron there’s no software right?

With or without rgb?

[spark hatch]

nope

all on board

[wind oyster]

K

[unkempt dome]

Cause the bump is long and round shaped ... I have them and like them a lot

But if you want a sharper more noticeable bump people here can recommend some.

[chrome raft]

boba u4t

that has a very big tactile bump

[unkempt dome]

Those are supposed to feel really great ... it's in my to buy list

[chrome raft]

boba u4ts are very tactile and have a deep sound profile

[wind oyster]

wut just happened?

why did a mod remove that message? there was no harm in that

im so confused rn

[swift forge]

Mod didn’t remove it

I did myself

Irrelevant now, wouldn’t really make sense

[wind oyster]

oh lol

[swift forge]

But for gaming I was saying that Keychrons boards sacrifice low latency PCB for typing quality, but it’s not too noticeable unless you plan to sweat any game in the FPS or racing world

Which requires breakneck reaction times at the top end of competing

[wind oyster]

fair enough

[swift forge]

Glorious’ GMMK Pro/GMMK 2 and Ducky’s One Three keyboards are better for that purpose

Their PCBs kinda follow the design of generic gaming companies but add in better build quality, mindfulness of who uses the keyboard/cares about typing quality and hotswap

[swift forge]

By default are of high latency, and I was talking about the input lag not polling rate although I didn’t know you could oc the pr

Interesting but for the regular gamer or office worker who don’t know about QMK…. :p

The FPS sweats need it, at least esports Awpers who take out the first people to emerge from a safe hole in a match, they need the 1000hz so their heads don’t get popped; think of it like a regular match but snipers only lmao

Both sides are tense, one misfire or poorly timed shot means one put-down

[chrome raft]

Glorious QC though.... 🤢

[spark hatch]

^

[untold orchid]

gmmk pro has good qc

rest is pretty yikes

[chrome raft]

Correct me if i'm wrong... But I very well remember many boards bricking at launch

[strong jolt]

alright im looking to get a custom keyborad

how should I start

[swift forge]

Reviews look better now

Linus recently did a vid with one of his friends who built a PC and set up a streaming station for the first time in their life, the keyboard was chosen to be a GMMK Pro

Mouse was a Pro X Superlight, but ig it was really just an income flex since the friend said it suited her because it was “pretty”

Like the mass…. Really?

[swift forge]

PC specs were 12700F, a 3070 Ti, Corsair Dominator DDR4 (?) RAM, z690 board, Phanteks case I believe

[untold orchid]

budget, form factor, switch preference is a good start

[strong jolt]

Yea I already have a whole keyboard

MK870

[untold orchid]

ok? but you asked about getting a custom

you mean you want to mod the mk870 or?

[strong jolt]

body - MK870
keycaps - Kaiju keycap
Switches - Tecsee Purple Panda
Lube - 205q0
Stabilisers - Everglide

The key caps are replica btw

[untold orchid]

if you have it figured out why did you ask lmao

[strong jolt]

I asked 3 hours ago

Got no response so I went somewhere else

[untold orchid]

I mean I answered like 1,5h ago

[strong jolt]

Still

Anyways thanks

[untold orchid]

but yeah thats a decent list, I would add some foam in the case as well since it seems like a pretty hollow plastic case

[strong jolt]

Alr

[strong jolt]

i think the mk870 kit im buying comes with foam

[chrome raft]

yes it does

[chrome raft]

i recommend you to look at corsa switches

light tactile

long pole

[wind oyster]

whats better outemu switches or gateron g pro switches?

[chrome raft]

outemu does manufacture good switches

but most outemu switches suck

the only outemu switches that are good are the gazzew boba ones

[smoky dust]

https://kbdfans.com/products/fully-assembled-60-resin-case-soldered-mechanical-keyboard-with-osa-mustard-keycaps?variant=39414601416843
what do you guys think about this keyboard?

[chrome raft]

no

its just a resin tofu60%

and the tofu60 isnt that good

[jovial summit]

any recommendations for a solid 60% board?

[chrome raft]

bakeneko

[jovial summit]

thanks I need to look into a new one

[smoky dust]

why tho

what makes it bad?

I dont wanna spend more than 250 bucks

[chrome raft]

its tray mount

you can get top mount, gasket mount or gummy o-ring mount boards at that price

yeah at 250 bucks your best bet would be a qk65

with some cheap switches like jwick blacks

[unkempt dome]

Oh yeah it's tray mount so it's complete trash

[chrome raft]

its not trash

its not worth the price

there are better options at that price

[idle steppe]

Are Keychron keyboards good for gaming?

[chrome raft]

if you like a keyboard it's good for gaming

as long as you like the keyboard it will be good for gaming

[idle steppe]

Ya I already have this one

[idle steppe]

What 75% should I get for a $100 budget

[lapis vessel]

Quick question, anyone has any recommended places to buy genuine cherry mx key's?

That's hopefully available internationaly

Aka

I'm basically building my self a duckypad and would love rgb compatible cherry mx greens

[chrome raft]

apexkeyboards

[lapis vessel]

Aight

[chrome raft]

ashkeebs

https://switches.mx/vendors

good list of vendors

[chrome raft]

are you willing to do some modding?

[unkempt dome]

I don't recommend those

[lapis vessel]

What happend to cherry???

All i see now it's gareron or whatever it's called

[unkempt dome]

Cherry stayed back in the 1980 and others took the lead

[lapis vessel]

Ah

Alright then

What replaced cherry green then?

Green where heavy blues

[unkempt dome]

Zeal clikiez
Kailh box navy
Kailh box jade
Kailh box white

That would be about the best clicky switches out there

[lapis vessel]

What's the heaviest of them all?

[unkempt dome]

Navy

[lapis vessel]

are they rgb compatible?

[spark hatch]

yes

[unkempt dome]

Get an SA profile keycap set and they'll sing for you

[chrome raft]

broken in cherry hyperglides are fine

[lapis vessel]

Btw last i saw, a lot of switches use a square socket instead of a +

[unkempt dome]

Yeah... just fine

[chrome raft]

zeal clikiez lmfaoo

[spark hatch]

zeal clickiez look neat

[chrome raft]

also nukes your bank account

[spark hatch]

thats beside the point

[lapis vessel]

Sa keycap set?

I'm going with custom double shot keycaps

[unkempt dome]

That's the keycap profile

[lapis vessel]

Aight

Although idk if they offer sa profile

[unkempt dome]

Or get whatever the ones that fit with what you already have

Looks like oem

[lapis vessel]

This should be compatible with your zeal's?

[swift forge]

Slightly higher latency than Glorious/Ducky but significantly cheaper and not as pricy; plus I just learned of polling rate overclocking so you’ve got that too to reduce whatever noticeable latency there is

[chrome raft]

????

[spark hatch]

personally dont notice any latency with my keychron boards wired

[swift forge]

It’s barely noticeable I’ll say that

[chrome raft]

looks like it should be

[swift forge]

But coming from someone sweating Krunker because I can’t play Valorant on macOS, it does become a dealbreaker once you’re in a certain league of gameplay

My Logitech G815 had a low latency PCB, it was immediately obvious switching from an Apple Magic connected via BT

then I go to a Keychron and eh, somewhat higher

But once you are a certified sweat if you’re genuinely competitive shooting and movement practice compensates for the latency

[lapis vessel]

Whelp the navy is only 60g...

[spark hatch]

I dont really understand how unnoticeable latency would make or break a board for gaming. but I dont play competitive games where that matters so /shrug

[unkempt dome]

Don't check the spring weight

Check the tactile force

[chrome raft]

just use wired

[unkempt dome]

It doesn't

there's so many other things that have latency that when it comes to the keyboard it's unnoticeable

If people were so concerned about latency they would use crt to begin with

[chrome raft]

spring swap

[urban panther]

2.4GHz rf or wired are fine for latency. Just Bluetooth that sucks

[swift forge]

It’s defo not noticeable when typing, but when playing FPS and it’s you against 15 other sweats :p

[spark hatch]

ibo I doubt, but idrc enough to argue

[lapis vessel]

Whelp, i did not want to aftermarket do this but I'll see how difficult it will be to replace a spring with i guess a 200g spring

[spark hatch]

uh

[lapis vessel]

It's not going on a 105 key keyboard

But a macropad

[spark hatch]

are you sure you watn 200g thats very heavy

[lapis vessel]

I specifically want heavy

So that no one can click the keys without commiting to it

It's going to go on a Duckykey macropad

Like mx greens are kinda light for me

Doi actually need to lube the key?

Other than this, does anyone know of a vendor selling a usb-C to PS/2 cable?

I have a keyboard that has a usb-C port, but i have to use a usb-a to usb-c cable and a ugly usb-a to PS/2 adapter for True N-key rollover

I could just chop 2 cables and heat shrink it but that would look horrendous.

Any recommendations?

[chrome raft]

isnt n-key rollover based off on the pcb?

not the cable

[lapis vessel]

Yes but not in the bios or in grub terminal for example

I currently want to remove this

Usb c on the keyboard to usb-a then that purple blob

[urban panther]

So PS/2 on motherboard end, and USB-C on keyboard end? @lapis vessel

[urban glade]

I’m going to produce a small quantity of usb-c to ps/2 adapters at some point, which will most likely run tmk firmware

Oh a passive converter like that.

Could just solder your own

I know that there are artisan cable makers who have produced ps/2 to mini b cables, I’m sure they could produce USB c too

[storm scaffold]

latency who cares about

as long as its in margin of normal wired latency, its fine for competitive gaming

[swift forge]

gaming keyboards be having 0.1ms latency lmao (Corsair K65 RGB Mini)

but Royal Kludge's 12.7ms? eh can't really see the difference when typing

For me coming from a Logitech G815 to a Pro X (sorry I'm a stickler), latency supposedly went up from 1.0ms to 5.3ms according to RTINGS but I only notice that in racing games and Krunker Ranked

though L micro-USB connection 😭

[storm scaffold]

we dont care

[swift forge]

who's we?

You don't care, but I'm a keyboard enthusiast too regardless of experience

[storm scaffold]

some company manufacture keyboards with lower latency

[quartz island]

[storm scaffold]

and some dont care about it

[swift forge]

not wrong, I'm just making my point

[storm scaffold]

but it doesnt matter if you cant notice

[swift forge]

sometimes it does help in the long run, haven't seen esports matches with Keychron K2's yet

[swift forge]

I can, thats the thing

[storm scaffold]

if you have two keyboards that still dont affect your peak performance, just go by sound

or feel

[swift forge]

and mind you they're buying Logitech Pro X keyboards for triple the price

how do I know its not sponsored? why do LoL esports have audiophile earphones

[untold orchid]

Because pros use whatever the fuck their sponsor tells them to use

Teams that arent sponsored often have players with custom boards

[unkempt dome]

Cause keychron don't sponsor esports

[swift forge]

true

oh well, i guess most of the input lag is handled by 240hz monitors if they really use it because "preference"

[unkempt dome]

240hz monitor can have high latency anyway

Each monitor is different and the claimed response time is often bullshit

[swift forge]

True

RTINGS does measure higher ngl, but all within +/- 2ms and around 6ms on average

240hz monitors ^

I mean once you come to the competitive scene I guess most of it is just pure skill and timings

[unkempt dome]

Yes it is

[swift forge]

although I will add sometimes latency can be a factor

[unkempt dome]

Shroud played for the longest time with a 60hz monitor

Or is it someone else ... I don't know much about esport guys I guess

[swift forge]

Custom keebs, some are probably modelled on a GMMK Pro/switches installed on that PCB

For example

[unkempt dome]

It can yes but only when it comes to bluetooth kind of latency

[swift forge]

20ms

[swift forge]

Linus did a collab with other esports gamers, shroud did perfectly fine on both 240hz and 60hz

[unkempt dome]

Yes he did

[swift forge]

He notes there was a difference

But if he had to cope with 60hz he wouldn’t complain

[unkempt dome]

The best gear don't make you a better player

And if it was so important well every esports pro would play on crt as I said before

[swift forge]

Kek lmao

[swift forge]

But having the appropriate gear improves your chances of being a good player :p

[unkempt dome]

Not really

If you're good then you're good and you'll be good on whichever gear you have

Unless it's broken or really really bad

[lapis vessel]

Yup and i managed to find a hobbyist who sells custom cables as a retirement job

[lapis vessel]

Yea i managed to get hold of a hobbyist who sells custom cables as a retirement job.

[urban glade]

👌

I recently moved from a pc with ps/2 to a laptop so I’ve been having to convert everything from ps/2 to usb

[lapis vessel]

I still feel like desktops should include a ps/2 port no matter what, but laptops yea rip

[urban glade]

my scuffed af hand soldered converter lol

[lapis vessel]

Nice

It's definitely far better than the chinesium special most use

[urban glade]

i intend on buying a thinkpad at some point - w500 - because its the newest that still has a ps/2 port lol

its just such a "for fun" purchase that i cant justify it until i find a really cheap one

[lapis vessel]

Whait, ain't the W500 one of them you can install coreboot too?

[urban glade]

maybe. i'm not sure

[lapis vessel]

Aight

Rn I'm still whaiting to upgrade from a basic dell with ryzen 1400 to am5 but i just hope that i won't struggle to get a board with the ps/2 port

[urban glade]

I originally wanted to build a SFF PC, mainly so that I could have PS/2

But then there wasn’t a single motherboard which had everything I needed and a PS/2 port, so I ended up just getting a laptop

[lapis vessel]

Rip

[urban glade]

I have 8 ps/2 kbds iirc

Would have been convenient not to have to convert them all lol

[lapis vessel]

Speaking of laptops, i swere, once day someone will make a expansion card for a framework laptops to be able to plug both a ps/2 mouse and keyboard

[urban glade]

That would be possible but still wouldn’t be native ps/2 T_T

[lapis vessel]

Sadly no

[urban glade]

I used to use a g80-3700 to give me hotplug while still using native ps/2

For now I have no numpad as it doesn’t work well with converters

[lapis vessel]

Uggg

That sucks

[idle steppe]

Yes

[chrome raft]

if you are ok with using aliexpress get a next time 75%

its really really cheap

gasket mount

plastic case

its also gonna be pretty hollow

[undone jay]

hello guys, any aliexpress keycaps recommendations?

[boreal rivet]

xmi is great

[wind oyster]

So I just have a question about keyboards with aviator cables. I personally don’t own one cuz their expensive as heck, but what’s the use/purpose for them? Or r they just mainly for looks/aesthetics? Like with rgb. Cuz I don’t get it.

[jagged ginkgo]

it makes it easier to swap keyboards for people who do that regularly

[unkempt dome]

it's the same as plugging and unplugging the USB c directly from the board ...

[crimson isle]

More effort than doing that tho

Because it isn’t just “pull a little and it out”

[untold orchid]

Pretty much just for aesthetics for keyboards

[wind oyster]

i see

[unkempt dome]

How is it more effort in unplugging a usb c than unplugging an aviator cable ...

[lapis vessel]

Whelp, i asked them if they could make me a custom one and let's go!

[unkempt dome]

Nice

[drowsy kiln]

holy pandas are trash and tecsee rubies v2 are superior

[swift forge]

Which one is greater in availability?

The one known more widely, likely

[latent blaze]

Rubies are literally linears not even the same type of switch

[boreal rivet]

Mx cope

[potent void]

https://twitter.com/moondroplab/status/1537072828587319297?s=21&t=UkUKuj5d37uZbo_YiTQwAQ

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For those of you who don’t know Moondrop they tend to specialize in audiophile IEMs

[sweet thunder]

But why

Actually you know what if they engrave some waifus on it plenty of people will buy it

[potent void]

I want a big Moondrop-Chan on the bottom in brass

[boreal rivet]

its got a dac/amp, the techbros will go crazy because "cool tech"

[untold orchid]

questions is then how good dac and amp does it have

[boreal rivet]

its likely going to just be one of the mobile ESS chips with a built in amp stage

[versed linden]

Smoll

[idle steppe]

What’s that keyboard (Linus new video)

[sweet thunder]

You know what, why hasn’t anyone made a vintage looking custom keyboard, and then shoved like a Mac mini in there

[boreal rivet]

it would probably "sound bad" kek

[swift forge]

Someone did shove the mainboard of a Framework laptop into an external keyboard and somehow got the I/O expansion slots working lmao

Looked like a Keychron to me

[leaden smelt]

checks daily on status of his ducky one 3

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-i-need-it-spongebob-gif-11796572

[chrome raft]

thats a keychron k3 im pretty sure

or maybe k7

[chilly perch]

Hmm

Should I get myself a mechanical keyboard for work >:)

A handful of other devs do but I would definitely need to shop around for quiet switches

[unkempt dome]

so ... would like another keyboard ... 65%, compact or exploded I don't mind
must have 2.4 gHz
must have 5 pins hotswap
north or south facing I don't care
not tray mount since they suck and it's the plague of the world, no gasket mount
black is really preferable but can do white
plastic or aluminum I don't care, no acrylic or transparent case
I don't care about rgb as it will always be turned off.
budget ... about 100 $ usd as when it arrives here it will most likely close to double that cause of the shipping, import fees and exchange rate ... must be available to ship in canada without exorbitant shipping cost

[chrome raft]

yes

[chrome raft]

yeah just tell me your budget

[spark hatch]

isnt that the new logitech mx board?

[chrome raft]

you need a plateless board?

plateless hotswap cannot exist

[chrome raft]

maybe

idk

[spark hatch]

k3 only comes in white as far as im aware

[chrome raft]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k3-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

this

^

[unkempt dome]

meant tray

[chrome raft]

ok

[spark hatch]

ohh, oops, idk why I tohught it only came in white

could also be the mx master

[chrome raft]

yeah

could be

for some reason i thought mx master was tkl

lmao

[spark hatch]

kinda suprised its not tkl/fullsize tbh. wouldnt think a 65% would be somthin logitch would make in there more professional lineup

[chilly perch]

Idk 200 bucks? No idea how much they cost rly. Just need a full size, USB c or wireless w/ dongle, and a work friendly design like all black etc

Literally no idea how much good keyboards actually cost I've been using a kb I bought for 60 bucks at home for years

[chrome raft]

2.4 gHz+not tray mount and not gasket mount is basiclly impossible

[unkempt dome]

why ...

[chrome raft]

its really hard

i cant find one

[unkempt dome]

what about wired only then ...

[chrome raft]

keychron q6

[chilly perch]

Hmmmm looks pretty nice

And what switches should I do if need quiet for work

[chrome raft]

zeal switches

very expensive

[crimson isle]

If only they released mx master 4 instead, dumped the rubber, cuz it breaks easily/peels off, etc

[chrome raft]

do you want linears or tactles

[spark hatch]

silent bobas?

[chrome raft]

yeah maybe

depends if you want linear or tactile

[chilly perch]

Probably tactile, I use blues at home

I'm a programmer so the typing experience is pretty crucial

Obviously I wouldn't want something loud as shit clicking and clacking at work tho

[chrome raft]

you probably dont even need a silent switch

a regular tactile honestly should be fine

[boreal rivet]

topre

its the best readily available tactile

[chrome raft]

doubt

its preference

[boreal rivet]

nah not really

[chrome raft]

can you put topre on a gasket moutned keeb?

[boreal rivet]

topre transcends preference

[chrome raft]

or on a gummy o-ring mounted one?

[spark hatch]

its preferance

[chrome raft]

hhkbs still are tray ount

im pretty sure

or top mount

[boreal rivet]

why cope with mounting solution when you have superior cup rubber

[chrome raft]

because you want a flexibl typing feel?

[boreal rivet]

i can't remember how a hhkb is mounted

wut no

i like it stiff

flex is cringe

[chrome raft]

flex is preference

[boreal rivet]

still cringe

[chrome raft]

no it isnt

[boreal rivet]

yes it is

[chrome raft]

some people may like a more flexible and bouncy typing feel

[boreal rivet]

still cringe though

[chilly perch]

I haven't used any thing but blues and membranes, how much louder would nice normal tactile switches be compared to the crappy membrane kb they give us

[boreal rivet]

quite

[chrome raft]

not that much louder

in a q6

bc its gasket mount

and usually gasket mount euqls dempened

[boreal rivet]

topre is quiet as a plus

[chrome raft]

you might want a flexible typing expirience

[boreal rivet]

you can make it even quieter with silencing rings and lube

[chilly perch]

Lubing sounds annoying and marginal difference

[boreal rivet]

100%

[chilly perch]

I slam my keys I'd prob want rings or whatever ppl do nowadays

[crimson isle]

I atleast prefer flex over typing on a rock

[chrome raft]

exactly

[boreal rivet]

anyway stock topre is much quieter than any unsilenced mx board

[chrome raft]

preference

[bronze pilot]

i would avoid rings as they can make typing feel like you're typing on a membrane keyboard

[chrome raft]

what about stock boba u4s?

[boreal rivet]

go google topre silencing rings and figure out how they work 👍

[bronze pilot]

Didnt realized you were talking about topre

[boreal rivet]

those are probably quieter

like i said unsilenced

[chilly perch]

And how much will filing a full size kb with nice switches cost

[boreal rivet]

depends on how deep you want to go

majority of the cost is the board itself

[chilly perch]

Will this q6 work with whatever switches I want?

[boreal rivet]

yes

any mx switch will work

[chilly perch]

Ok

[bronze pilot]

At the very most a full board will cost 110 if you go with the most expensive switch rn usually from 50 tp 80ish dollers

[chilly perch]

So how much for just the switches and any other wacky silencing things

Ok

That shouldn't be a prob then

[boreal rivet]

https://splitkb.com/products/gazzew-boba-u4-silent-tactile-switch

you can buy from other vendors

this is just the first result off google

i will still recommend topre over mx though

[chilly perch]

Ok

Sounds like there's a little fight over these 2lol

[boreal rivet]

its up to you, topre imo is a one and done thing for tactiles

[unkempt dome]

how heavy are the heaviest topre ?

[boreal rivet]

55g

[unkempt dome]

sounds light to me still

[boreal rivet]

but iirc that isn't accurate

its def more towards like 75g i feel

[boreal rivet]

can't remember the reason why

also deskeys offers many aftermarket domes now

[chilly perch]

O topres look wacky as hell

What even are they

[boreal rivet]

they are rubber domes which use electrocapacitive sensing for actuation

so you dont have to bottom out completely to actuate like regular membrane rubberdomes

the topre domes are also much nicer feeling

[chilly perch]

Hmm

They don't look compatible with other kbs are they

[boreal rivet]

they are not

[chilly perch]

Mmmm ok

So kinda locked into topre if u buy one

[boreal rivet]

yes but the benefits outweigh the disadvantages imo

[unkempt dome]

is it an mx keycap mounting system ?

[boreal rivet]

deskeys also offers those yeah

[unkempt dome]

not on hhkb ?

[boreal rivet]

they should work just fine

you'll need to drill holes for the modifier keys however

[unkempt dome]

so any suggestions if I ditch the wireless ?

[chrome raft]

maybe

give me a sec

idobao id67?

its an integrated plate

it basically sorta stiffer top mount

[chrome raft]

no

dont recommend topre

[boreal rivet]

cool dude

who asked

[chrome raft]

you said topre is better then mx

[boreal rivet]

it is

[chrome raft]

no its not

its prefernce

\

[boreal rivet]

nah

[chrome raft]

is there a linear topre switch?

can topre produce a marbly sound?

[boreal rivet]

did i say it was better than linear mx?

sound memes are cringe

get a grip

[chrome raft]

can topre not sound like rubber?

[chrome raft]

thock is pain

[boreal rivet]

dont care

not my problem

[chilly perch]

🍿 🦏

[ionic briar]

you can make it compatible with mx type keycaps
there are mx mount topre slider out there

[chrome raft]

topre is really stiff

also basically 0 customization

[boreal rivet]

eh nah

deskeys exists

[chrome raft]

except keycaps

[ionic briar]

dome change, spring change, slider change

there are customizations

[chrome raft]

deskeys are switch films

[boreal rivet]

why would you change the springs lol

[ionic briar]

they made sliders and topre domes too

[unkempt dome]

ok so it's only a base kit ...

[boreal rivet]

have you even been on his site?

[chrome raft]

no

i thought deskeys was just switch films

[boreal rivet]

ah cant say im surprised

[ionic briar]

for funsies
tho i dont think anybody made heavier topre springs
prob because it doesnt work anymore

[boreal rivet]

changing springs would probably fuck up the sensing

[ionic briar]

yea

then we have dome and slider change

[boreal rivet]

we have housing change now too

thanks to des

that man is hard carrying topre

[ionic briar]

and also all the other mods that doesnt involve the topre itself

so all the case mods, pcb mods, whatever

[chrome raft]

i mean all topre keyboards are top mount or tray mount

very very very very stiff

[chilly perch]

Rightyo so

[chrome raft]

if you want a flexible typing expirience dont buy topre

[chilly perch]

Q6 with these bobas or any of that rando shit

Good 2 go?

[chrome raft]

yes

[boreal rivet]

have you tried a topre before?

[chilly perch]

And good to go?

[boreal rivet]

also realforces are not tray mount

[chrome raft]

basically yes

[chrome raft]

top mount

still stiff

[boreal rivet]

also not

[chilly perch]

Is the kb available yet or still coming?

[unkempt dome]

stiff or not is preference

[boreal rivet]

they domes provide a subtle cushion while keeping a solid bottom out

but you havent tried one before so its not surprising you dont know that

[chrome raft]

q6 is on preorder

[chilly perch]

Mm ok

Maybe I will

Preorder

[chrome raft]

check the website

keychron

[chilly perch]

And even if it's too loud for work I want a new kb for at home

[chrome raft]

q6 is hotswp

you can change switches

very very easily

[chilly perch]

Yeah

I mean even with quiet switches if it's too loud

Then I'll keep it at home

[chrome raft]

yeah quiet switches are very quiet

[chilly perch]

Bigly not a fan of those keycaps

[chrome raft]

get the barebones kit

[chilly perch]

Uglie

[chrome raft]

barebones kit means you need keycaps and switches

[chilly perch]

Ye

Rip wallet lol

How much for some basic ass (but nice) black keycaps

If the kb is back-lit, looks like it is, then with clear letters

[chrome raft]

you dont need clear letters

[chilly perch]

I mean, keycap with ability for light to shine thru

That is, if it is backlit

[ionic briar]

https://anothersupersite.com/my-mechanical-machinations-a-keeb-story-part-2/
topre customization is def a thing
its just... super meticulous and requires 10 times more patience

[chilly perch]

It's not like I need backlighting for work since I don't work in the dark obvi

[boreal rivet]

nah its way easier than mx

it just looks scary

[ionic briar]

placing those single domes are scary
one bump and you will have to place all the spring and domes from scratch

[chrome raft]

doubt

[boreal rivet]

its really not that fragile lol

just need to make sure you prepare a proper workspace

[boreal rivet]

do it, then talk

[ionic briar]

yea ik
i think about customizing topre like making domino art
the dominoes themselves arent fragile, but if you knock one down then the process you have achieved is gone and you would have to do it all over again
unless im misunderstood "fragile" in your context

[boreal rivet]

nah you're not

but what im saying is those dominoes take alot to tip over

[ionic briar]

oh i see

okay

[boreal rivet]

you would have to knock the whole board on the floor or flip it to knock them out of position

the domes have notches and sit quite snugly

[ionic briar]

yea i see

fair enough

fuck now i want to try some topre

[boreal rivet]

you can get a hhkb from xianyu for very cheap

[unkempt dome]

I'll check that out

[chilly perch]

Now lookin again for kb for gf

Any good full sized with exposed switches?

Gmmk has a shitty non removable cable

But otherwise good

[ionic briar]

Hexgears inpulse?

[unkempt dome]

Anything else that you can think of ?

[swift forge]

Probably an awper in Valorant (that exists) who’s using the operator 24/7 (sniper)

And doesn’t have a backup weapon 🤡

[chilly perch]

Wut

Lol

Just because a game is 100hz ticketed for instance doesn't mean a 1000hz input wouldn't matter

[static rapids]

new keeb is finally complete
gateron ink black v2's, keychron q3 knobless, taihao 'Lavastone' keycaps

just gotta get used to using linear switches again lol

[chrome raft]

no

[chrome raft]

flip the spacebar

[chrome raft]

budget? layout?

[tardy plover]

is akko cs silvers a good purchase

[chilly perch]

I'll tell u what she wants in a bit, about to leave work

[unkempt dome]

I heard good things about them, never tried them myself

[tardy plover]

i got them about 1 or 2 weeks ago and it hasnt arrived yet sad

[chilly perch]

Ok so

for my gf
White keyboard
Non-aluminum backplate, plastic or something else
Preferably full sized, but thru my failure of searching its ok its its TKL or something similar.
usb C detachable cable or usb 2.4ghz wireless
exposed switches, with the intention of putting those stupid round typewriter keycaps on them
rgb support

cant think of any other reqs off the top of my head

[tardy plover]

bruh the typewriter caps

do you really need the full size

it would probably be better to have a tkl

[chilly perch]

no thats wut i said

i couldnt find shit so tlk is ok

but full size preferred if there are any

[spark hatch]

keychron q4 I think its called, you can buy different plates if you dont want aluminum. not 100% round keycaps would fit tho~

[chilly perch]

i mean if it gonna have alu anyways ill get a full sized lol

I actually dunno wat anyone is on about that aluminum is premium

Literally every kb has an aluminum plate

[chrome raft]

aluminum body

most keebs have a plastic body

[chilly perch]

Idgaf about that

I don't want a aluminum plate under the caps

[chrome raft]

ok

[chilly perch]

Gimme smth matte white gaddam

[chrome raft]

floating key design is rare

[chilly perch]

Yuh

The only real good one I could even find was gmmk 100% but it's a soldered cable and aluminum

[chrome raft]

iquinix s180?

probably metal plate

[chilly perch]

Metal is ok but like

Idk powder coat it or smth don't sand blast or God forbid brush it like 99% of white kb

[chrome raft]

its really hard to find one with floating keycap design

[ionic briar]

https://kono.store/products/gemini-dawn?_pos=8&_sid=e5c6b92dc&_ss=r
fuck this is just brushed alu

https://kono.store/products/whitefox-mechanical-keyboard?_pos=16&_sid=e5c6b92dc&_ss=r

oh wait

is this power coat like you said? @chilly perch

[chilly perch]

Idk if that's powder but yes that looks nice

It's just white

Mfw I'm best off manufacturing a plate for myself

Going to bed byebye

Gonna fuckin cardinal sin and just spray paint a damn panel lol

At least use a matte clearcoat and it's good except that the spacings are trashed

[tardy plover]

make a cardboard keyboard

[chrome raft]

3d print a bakeneko

[primal monolith]

Are custom keyboards (like the keychron k4) really better than regular gaming keyboards (like hyperx alloy, logitech g910) in terms of quality, typing, etc.?

[naive lintel]

I would like to know too

if price is an indicator of quality, then yes

[untold orchid]

its all subjective but yes they do tend to be built from higher quality materials and can be customized to your exact liking

[unkempt dome]

gaming keyboards tend to be more expensive than keychron stuff and gaming tend to be worst

[swift forge]

Gaming are built for gaming, many omit vital features which would add to a better typing experience such as macOS compatibility for functions and layout; as well as since many people buy them because so many love gaming, mass production can lead to quality control issues like failing switches out of the box, fraying cable for a wired connection or charging etc

Plus many companies manufacturing these gaming keyboards have started to make owners invest more and more into their software which not many people want, sometimes even selling points of the actual keyboard which make it stand out of the crowd and vital functioning require some form of control software open

Like the Logitech Pro X keyboard, supposed to be for esports players on the go

Yet to remap F1-F12 you have to have the software open ._.

and there’s no onboard memory for mapped macros, only a single RGB profile ;-;

[swift forge]

This is visually evidenced by the lack of a wrist rest and high profile mech switches on many keyboards for gaming, Razer and Corsair believe linear switches compensate for that

[untold orchid]

tldr, dont buy a gaming keyboards

same goes for gaming headsets

[chrome raft]

Hey, I have a specific question to ask:

I need a mechanical keyboard for writing texts which is small (like the razer huntsman mini but with arrow- and del-, end- etc. -keys but not for gaming)
It should just be comfortable writing texts with it and if it's not too loud that's a +

I have 2 in my current wishlist - roccat vulcan pro with linear switches and realforce r2 PFU LE but not too sure, what would be other good options? Price should not be more than 300$

[untold orchid]

keychron Q2 bareboned, mod the stabilizers, add some switches of your liking and some cheap pbt keycaps and youre done

if you want something good straight from the box look at durgod or iqunix boards

[urban glade]

Get realforce

Or hhkb / fc660c

Topre is good

[untold orchid]

oh yeah I forgot leopold is a thing

[chrome raft]

keyhron k4 isn't a custom keyboard

unless you modify it

[chrome raft]

yes and custom keyboards are better then gaming keyboards

[chrome raft]

macOS compatibility=better typing experience???

[chrome raft]

customs keyboards also usually dont come with a wrist wrest and also have regular switches

[chrome raft]

QK65

unless you want a very flexible typing experience

[jaunty flower]

Hello guys, I just finished my first keyboard build with gmmk2 96% ISO board, red switches and basic keycaps, but I ordered the wrong keycap set so I have a longer shift button and not 1u sized right alt, ctrl etc. buttons. I would like to know is where can I buy quality keycaps for this layout because after searching didn't really find much option, thanks for the tips in forward(UK layout would be fine)

[chrome raft]

gmk

but its really expensive

or maybe drop dcx but drop doesn't treat its keycap designers well

or maybe epbt

[chrome raft]

Thanks for the recommendation

[chrome raft]

Thanks you too

[jaunty flower]

sad to hear that because even after like browsing like only 10 minutes they have really neat looking caps with all of the button variations

thanks for the help, I think I can find something now

[chrome raft]

if you find a keycap set you can send me a link to it and i can check if its compatible with the gmmk2

[strong jolt]

What type

Is it round?

How’s the feel other than it’s light

[chrome raft]

there is a light tactile bump

its not that the spring is light

[strong jolt]

Yea but there’s different

Like is the tactile round or sharp

[chrome raft]

should be pretty rounded

[spark hatch]

drop.com, maybe kenetic labs

[primal monolith]

okay, thank you. What keyboard do you recommend for gaming that has good quality?

[spark hatch]

budget? and what size kb

[primal monolith]

120€ ($ 125); 100%/96%?

[chrome raft]

save up for the keychron q5

[spark hatch]

^

akko also has some nice 95% boards aswell if you wanted to look at those

[chrome raft]

akko mod003

but its more expensive then q5

[spark hatch]

I was thinking more the 3098b

https://akkogear.de/search?type=product%2Carticle%2Cpage%2Ccollection&options[prefix]=last&q=3098*

[chrome raft]

i personally think keychron q5 is a better buy

but i dont know if he values gasket mount a lot

[spark hatch]

it is. just thorowing out options

[chrome raft]

yeah

thats always good

more options is always good

[wind oyster]

im looking for a cheap wireless or wired tkl full sized 104 key mechanical keyboard

does keychron make the k8 tkl but for the full size? like 104 keys?

wait i found not the k8 but the k10 version is the full size

so nvm

[primal monolith]

uhm... the keychron q5 is not available in Germany xd

[chrome raft]

it is

keychron ships to germany

[primal monolith]

Yes, but only the k series in German layout, the q series is only US layout

and I could not find the q5 anywhere

maybe on the official website

[chrome raft]

what even is german layout?

[feral geyser]

qwertz

[spark hatch]

its a bare bone for iso

[primal monolith]

In German keyboards, the y and the z are switched

[feral geyser]

more than just that

theres ö ä ü and some symbols are switched

[chrome raft]

you can switch the keycaps and remap the keys in via configurator

[chrome raft]

you can do that by switching keycaps and using via configurator

[feral geyser]

that might be possible yes

[chrome raft]

yeah so its not a concern then

[swift forge]

Enigmatic concept :p so nvm

[hidden quarry]

is there a budget keyboard base with perkey rgb?

[ionic briar]

how budget?

[unkempt dome]

What people think about bakeneko65 board ?

I mean people here

[ionic briar]

its fine

[unkempt dome]

Was hoping for a bit more info about it

[chilly perch]

So, yea

For work..

Keychron Q6, Boba u4 silents, random pbt black keycaps?

mmm sold out i thnk

[spark hatch]

is there a q6? I thought they were just upto the q5? I could be alittle out of date tho

[chilly perch]

its not out yet

but coming

[spark hatch]

gotcha, is that there full 100% then?

ah, yea

[chilly perch]

ye

need it 100%

the 4 keys above numpad are cool too

especially cos its qmk it can do anything at all

[spark hatch]

right

[chilly perch]

Do rgb work very well with non clear switches

i mean my current keyboards led work fine with solid black switch bodies

soe that'll be like $300+ depending on the actual launch price

[spark hatch]

ehh, depends. itll change the color of the light a fire bit. like my board has kenetic labs penguins (a switch with a blue housing) and If I cant get white from the the board anymore. I get more of a icy blue/glacier blue

[chilly perch]

clear booba would be nice but only the white-ish are available

[spark hatch]

you can just change the color of the led to compensate for the color of the switch to get the color you actually want. white is one color I haven't been able to get since not having clear switches tho

[chilly perch]

ye

well i figure less light gets thru too

but also clear switches prob bleed all over the bottom plate

[spark hatch]

I cant remember how rgb friendly bobas are, but light get through fine. my swithces just have acouple pin holes for rgb but they still shine pretty bright

[chilly perch]

the booba have a slot

for those thru hole leds i think

[spark hatch]

yea, dont worry about rgb. you'll be able to see it

[chilly perch]

cool cool

yea

300 def aint cheap but i guess after i finish work itll be my main keyboard

[true prism]

yakk got any 80s

[hidden quarry]

like under 100 dollars

[night briar]

Trust ASTA GXT 865 or Hyperx Alloy FPS Pro (red) with 1 key missing?

[zealous summit]

Does anyone recommend and white Rgb keyboards 100 usd or less

[magic wolf]

are you familiar with custom keyboards?

or would you like a prebuilt / gaming one

[zealous summit]

Prebuilt

[magic wolf]

okay, do you like low-profile / %60 keyboards?

[zealous summit]

60%

Or TKL

[magic wolf]

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Huntsman-Mini-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B08B3CFL6W/ref=sr_1_3?crid=172B70FWRH1HG&keywords=razer%2Bhuntsman%2Bwhite&qid=1655584725&s=electronics&sprefix=razer%2Bhuntsman%2Bwhit%2Celectronics%2C145&sr=1-3&th=1

I have this keyboard but black with F1-12 bar and its amazing.

they have incredibly fast linear optical switches.
if you're familiar to heavier mechanical keyboards it might take some getting used to but its awesome.

[zealous summit]

How is this one? https://www.microcenter.com/product/645817/redragon-k530-draconic-compact-rgb-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-with-brown-switches-white

[magic wolf]

so. Heres what your getting/losing going with this.

you're getting - wireless
you're losing - aluminum body

mx browns are a pretty traditional switch, you cant go wrong.

but man if you ever get to try a linear optical keyboard, its def something else.

[zealous summit]

I want wireless

[magic wolf]

oh, this reddragon keyboard also are not individually lit rgb.

They're zoned.

[zealous summit]

Wdym

[magic wolf]

meaning instead of each key having rgb lighting. a "zone" of the keyboard has lighting.

[zealous summit]

O

Also the huntsman mini is wireless

[magic wolf]

everyone thinks they want wireless until they just leave their peripherals plugged in all the time after a week or two

[zealous summit]

True

Alr

[magic wolf]

its not. Its just detachable cable.

[zealous summit]

That’s what I meant

I consider that wireless

Bc I have 2 brain cells

[magic wolf]

ok, then yes its wireless, but doesnt work when wireless

[zealous summit]

Lmao

[urban panther]

every keyboard has a removable cable at least once /s

[zealous summit]

Is there one with a usb-c wire on the side to make it easier for routing under the desk

[magic wolf]

you could buy a custom cable with a 90 degree turn.

[zealous summit]

Ok

From wheee

Where*

[magic wolf]

cablemod probably.

[zealous summit]

Can I get custom white psu cables there also

Are there any other ones besides the huntsman mini