peripherals

[ionic briar]

the other solution is one that has been implemented already, beefing up the contact points, coat it with more oxidation resilient materials, and changing how the contact point touch each other

[fossil tiger]

I want to get a switch Opener I have gateron switches and also Akko cs switches is there an opener that will work for both?

Like will an mx opener work?

Why keyboards, go off topic.

[swift forge]

likely describing NASA's switch from whatever alloy used to heatproof re-entry lunar modules to titanium

[ionic briar]

yea
those that advertised as 3 in 1 or 2 in 1 switch opener
https://flashquark.com/product/switch-opener-2-piece-set-for-kailh-and-mx-type-switches-made-by-kelowna/
like this one

[swift forge]

pretty sure that wasn't first-try, choosing titanium

[ionic briar]

mx only switch opener will not work on akko switches, due to the winglatch design

[swift forge]

we'd need a ton of brainiacs like Musk but computer-tech oriented to figure that out

[fossil tiger]

What is the Akko switches based on?

Kailh or mx or what

[ionic briar]

oem is most likely ktt
but they uses the kailh winglatch approach for securing the top housing

[swift forge]

what are switch openers for?

:p

[fossil tiger]

To open my switch lmao

[ionic briar]

seperate the top and bottom housing, give you access to the rest of the component (spring, contact leaves, slider) of a traditional contact switch

[fossil tiger]

It takes hella long to open it with tweezers

[swift forge]

oh alr, I thought it was current-based (open/closed circuit etc) not like a can-opener

[ionic briar]

👍

[fossil tiger]

Should I just get krytox 2o5g0

[swift forge]

yes yes the way it opens is defo different to opening canned peaches but electrocution is probably off my bucket list of daily rituals

[ionic briar]

if you are lubing linear switches or you are confident in your ability to apply thin coat of lube to tactile switches

[fossil tiger]

Im lubing linear yeah

Gateron red and akko rose red

[ionic briar]

then yes

[chrome raft]

remember: lube is all personal preference

[mint urchin]

does anyone here have the Xtrfy K4 TKL ?

[spark hatch]

no but what you wanna know about it

[mint urchin]

if its good

im thinking about buying it

and what it sounds like aswell xd

[spark hatch]

I dont know to much about it, is that the brand that hardware cunucks get sponsors for a fair bit?

[spark hatch]

it sounds pretty meh, but sound is all preferance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U-NkjTUwWI

[thorny ember]

Can you lube switches without opening them?

[spark hatch]

yes, but I wouldnt recommend it

[mint urchin]

Would the retro edition fit better with black and red themed setup?

[spark hatch]

maybe? not good with colors. how much is that board

?

[mint urchin]

the k4 tkl?

[spark hatch]

mhm

[mint urchin]

110 $

in denmark

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/80-layout-keyboards/products/keychron-c1-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39767304667225

also comes in balck and white colot way if you get the rgb version

https://akkogear.de/collections/keyboards/products/silent-muted-gray-3087v2

also a bluw and yellow version of that one ^

[mint urchin]

dont like it 😐

looks ugly tbh

[spark hatch]

which one?

[mint urchin]

both of those

[spark hatch]

could always get differnt keycaps

[ionic briar]

there are 69 million recolor of 3087 so i dont think you would have trouble picking one that suits your aesthetic

https://en.akkogear.com/?nonce=444326638a&cpt=&posts_per_page=&no_thumbnail=&s=3087

[thorny ember]

I have a stabilizer question

I bought the keychron c1 and pulled all the keys off to put o-rings on

In doing so I noticed instead of stabilizers the wide keys just have multiple switches

If I bought different keycaps how would I handle that? Would I replace the switches on the board with stabilizers? Are there keycaps with mx mounts that would just fit these?

[cinder coral]

pretty sure stab stems are just mx stems

it depends how the other switches are placed.

[thorny ember]

So, key caps would probably just work

[cinder coral]

depends on positioning

because they would have to be positioned so the stems are in the exact same spots the stabilizer stems would be

for standard keycaps

[thorny ember]

The space bar had five mx mounts but only three were being used

[cinder coral]

yeah that one will likely be fine then

not all spacebars have all of those mounting points though just fyi

if you plan to buy more sets, just a heads up

[thorny ember]

Ponder

If I buy a set and it doesn’t work can I return it?

[cinder coral]

Depends on the seller, I'd imagine.

[thorny ember]

Is it unusual for wide keys to have switches instead of stabilizers ?

[spark hatch]

what model do you have?

thats not right

[thorny ember]

It’s the Keychron C1

[spark hatch]

keys wouldnt puch down stright if they use multible switches

[spark hatch]

yes. there are multiple models.

[thorny ember]

The keys don’t rattle like they do with wire and they all push perfectly linear

[spark hatch]

not all stabs rattle, can you send a picture?

[thorny ember]

I’m not at home

[spark hatch]

alr

[pastel atlas]

has anyone replaced any key switches on a Logitech g513, my "t" is broken, how difficult is it to de-solder etc and does anyone which switches are most similar to the stock GX Brown Tactile ones? I've had to remap my "t" to the pause button which makes for the most unpleasant typing experience

[cinder coral]

shouldnt be difficult to desolder and find another compatible switch, but consider the possibility that it's not the switch that has gone bad, but potentially just one of the solder joints on the board itself.

[spark hatch]

ltt did a video

[spark hatch]

its more likely the switch.

[cinder coral]

Of course, I just wouldn't want him thinking that could be the only thing going wrong.

ive had bad experiences with boards going back :c

[spark hatch]

ah

[queen narwhal]

i need help with my anne pro 2

[thorny ember]

I just replaced my velocifire because the e died and the switches were soldered

[swift forge]

Leak - the 500hz ASUS ROG Strix monitor is fr

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/the-worlds-first-500hz-gaming-monitor-is-total-overkill-and-were-here-for-it

[meager pollen]

unnecessary

280 feels unnecessary

imma stick to 165hz

[swift forge]

yea

true that, and the fact its TN means one thing; this is an esports beast and a lump of lousy regular use meat

[inner lichen]

Just to throw a question up here...Is it necessary to have a numpad on your keyboard for programming and coding? I use my laptop numpad seldom for this but like the knowledge of just having it anyways, gonna buy a new keyboard but don't know what?

[swift forge]

no, it is fine to use a TKL

TKL because ofc arrow keys and sometimes the pad of functions (can't remember the name) can be time-savers

but you'll just need to move longer distances across a keyboard to type numbers

I'm used to it though, and human beings have two hands to work with so 🤷‍♂️

depends on if you need to type exotic symbols, actually - £™¶ you won't manage without the numpad

since num lock and alt + [insert code for symbol typed on num lock] are required for all of them on windows

macOS, something called the Extended Layout exists which allowed me to type those symbols

basically holding down the option key, and the shift key as well for the second layer of extended

takeaway; HTML and CSS coding you likely don't need a numpad; game development and insertion of very precise numerical values and symbols used to identify a certain aspect in a game, yes

symbols like §, used in Minecraft Java coding were utilised as to indicate that a colour attribute/value existed for the object/animal it was designated

[inner lichen]

Thanks...I think I'm leaning towards a tkl…I have my laptop as main computer so I have that numpad if needs be. any suggestions however what is a good programming friendly keyboard?

What is there to look for when searching for one to buy?

[swift forge]

if you're a customising aficionado ig the EVGA Z15, people go against gaming keyboards sometimes but RGB might be handy

[swift forge]

if you need it, macro programming; otherwise good reliable switches on a typist's board, preferably not a linear for less typos, perhaps a layout where the <> keys can be typed in a less awkward position than QWERTY allows for like DVORAK

and a wrist rest for long-term comfort

I sometimes use windows lock on my Logitech Pro X kb so I don't tab out when coding/accidentally close the tab without saving 😭

[inner lichen]

I know that pain🥲

[swift forge]

that said, be careful with gaming boards as many suffer some form of quality control issue and may break down quickly since these companies cater for the masses and not the classed

as in buy high end gaming boards if you need them, avoid Razer's stuff

and preferably not Logitech's stuff if you hate ABS keycaps and a plastic frame

I would personally grab a hotswap so you can use the same board until the frame itself gives way

and if a single switch busts in the middle of a session you can replace it easily

[inner lichen]

What switches would you recommend...I havent owned a mechanical keyboard before but generally heard Mx Blue or equivalent blue type of swotches are too loud? Brown or equivalent then?

[swift forge]

general rule of thumb would be buy something with USB-C connectivity, if its a wired kb; wireless buy something with USB-C charging so you can buy replacements easily

[swift forge]

lmao true for some people, I'm typing on Logitech's GX Blues and the board's giving me pinging noises extra decibels

[swift forge]

feel matters too, Blues are more rigid and have a higher typing resistance meaning more force is required to actuate the switch and type a letter/number/symbol/execute a macro

Browns are more linears but with "inaccuracies" causing a bit of typing resistance and the feel of small stones beneath the keycap, best for gaming/programming as its easy enough to actuate for FPS gaming but rigid enough for typing

Reds are full on linears, the switches bottom out without any kind of audible "warning"

another technical difference is that Browns and blues actuate at half their total travel depth, Reds do so when they completely bottom out

if you can type quickly regardless of the switch type, you might appear to be faster on blues/browns

[swift forge]

provided the resistance doesn't slow you down :p

[inner lichen]

Okay, Is there any reason to buy say the Logitech MX Keys over Mechanical? I really want a Mechanical for gaming lightly as well as work just for curiosity...

[swift forge]

lower profile might make your wrists more comfortable over time and save you cash since you won't need a wrist rest and many mechs don't come with that nowadays despite their taller height. But scissor switches are far from easy to replace compared to hotswappable mechs and are less durable

[inner lichen]

Alright...Thanks alot❤️

[swift forge]

Mechs - more expensive than membrane (scissor switches), more variety, easier to replace and more durable
Membranes - cheapo, lower profile so more comfortable in the long term, short travel distance might bug people as this leads to more typing inaccuracies, hard to replace/impossible for individual users, unreliable as if one switch fails the rest will also within a short period of time

Me on MX blues, mech kb

Me on laptop membrane - 110 wpm, 86% acc 💀

[placid kite]

also membrane is basically unkillable which is what I recommend to ppl that I see having junk in their kb.

[swift forge]

true, but once you do kill it the pain of buying another keyboard is one man should not fall victim to

compared to a single switch replacement

[placid kite]

10$ off nearest computer store. going outside tho... touching grass... ugh

[swift forge]

but yea ig, more dust/spill resistant if thats what you're saying

less a "one drop of water one kill" situation there

[placid kite]

mechanical swotches rarely go out one at a time from junk.

junk is like aoe spell

[swift forge]

my MacBook Pro's keyboard is membrane, tons of dandruff stuck between the keys and I suspect some even on the PCB, all the keys are still functioning

mechanical switches die patch by patch if you chuck coffee at it

a whole cup that is

TLDR, don't do that

[placid kite]

point of membrane is that ur pcb is protected.

[swift forge]

makes sense

why many are for business/work usage

office buildings are typically where coffees are spilt

and food eaten next to a workstation

[swift forge]

so somethings gotta fall through the PCB at some point

[placid kite]

pic fromwiki

[swift forge]

welp, if you had to choose mech or membrane (topre and optical not yet existing) what would you go for

[placid kite]

the only way it can be killed is goo hoarding under the key or sticky liquid spills

[swift forge]

^^

[placid kite]

i have both atm. currently using membrane.

i would even say it feels better for gaming. for typing i sometimes take out the kailh red kb.

altho for gaming having 125 hz polling rate feels trash.

[swift forge]

I prefer the further travel distance, so mech ftw

[placid kite]

the polling rate is imo bigger diff than mech/memb

[swift forge]

and the typing quality is great no matter what switch you get once its the norm, very stable given the right board is used

compared to squishy membrane keycaps going left and right

[placid kite]

you mean the keycap wiggle?

or travel direction

[swift forge]

yep that

[placid kite]

had that on my kailh swotches aswell. it is just different. mech switches tend to have more defined edges of the wiggle where as memb has mushy wiggle. both are annoying.

[crimson isle]

Just arrived

[cinder coral]

idk what that guy was saying earlier about reds needing to bottom out to actuate, but that's just wrong lmao.

[cinder coral]

very cool mouse.

[chrome raft]

trackball is superior

[boreal rivet]

ignore him, dumb kid always makes up some whack ass theories about how things work and presents them as fact

[chrome raft]

you can check the actuation graph on a switch manufacturer's website

and it clearly shows that you dont have to bottom out in order to actuate

[boreal rivet]

tell that to him not me

[chrome raft]

yes ik i cant find his message lmao

[chrome raft]

wouldn't that be dumb

wouldn't that still be dumb

[crimson isle]

Can’t and I won’t

Also, if I had to take the material they say it is made of

I can’t do that

Not even half

[inner lichen]

The first one is kelvin and the second one Degrees Celcius

[crimson isle]

I know

Do the math

[inner lichen]

O shooooot

[crimson isle]

Even a flamethrower wouldn’t reach half of burning it

Ain’t happening

Would melt pcb before it

[inner lichen]

Well, honeslty.....
I didnt expect it to be that low

[opaque shard]

Protection for your PCB? Pfft, no such thing is necesarry

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758760549663637604/976815377596178432/20220519_135520.jpg

I'm rawdogging it

All the components are exposed, no problem bro

[manic ravine]

Is tell don’t get how that’s comfortable or easy to use

[spark hatch]

you can put it in anyway you want, its layed out in a more ergonomic way, and its low profile which is also more ergonomic

[leaden smelt]

Howdy

I'm about to throw this Huntsman Elite V2 Analog into the wall.

anyone have a good recommendation for a fullsize tactile mechanical keyboard?

[spark hatch]

its garbage anyway

[leaden smelt]

my blackwidow elite broke, and they sent that in replacement

[spark hatch]

budget? and any features you want? rgb, wirelesss, etc

[leaden smelt]

razer software keeps bricking the keyboard, but you can't have the actuation in the right spot without it

[leaden smelt]

100-200 please, but can go higher if needed. Wired, RGB is nice but not a killer

[violet pumice]

Would recommend something from corsair if you want a full size something from hyper X

[spark hatch]

n o

[violet pumice]

I mean if for budget rk have some deals

[spark hatch]

they're also garbage

[leaden smelt]

I heard corsair keyboard driver is bad.... I got it on my lenovo and it is wonky

steelseries is nice, looking at the 7 Brown

[violet pumice]

Yea corsair driver is not that great

Steelseries is good

[leaden smelt]

I do NOT like optical/linear

[violet pumice]

Typing tactile is best

[spark hatch]

on the cheaper end:

https://www.keychron.com/collections/100-layout-keyboards/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32312457625689

[leaden smelt]

really? Looks cheap

[spark hatch]

its not

do you like 96%'s? or are you strict on 100%

[chrome raft]

its tray mount but you can't expect anything at the price point

[spark hatch]

mhm

[leaden smelt]

not familiar

[spark hatch]

its still a solid board tho, far better than anything corsair or razer have

[leaden smelt]

what do you mean 96 or 100

[violet pumice]

Akko provide some custom pre-built keyboard

They are really good

[chrome raft]

that 1800 lol

[spark hatch]

96% is just alittle compacter, and 100% has spacing

[spark hatch]

ikr lmao

[leaden smelt]

oh, I like full. I just don't want that stupid macro bar on the left

[high vine]

had to check how 96% ISO looks like and just...........no

[leaden smelt]

hrm, I am seeing Keychron C2 has some latency issues

[urban glade]

I like fullsize

[violet pumice]

I like tkl

[urban glade]

I also like tkl+numpad

[violet pumice]

Or 75%

[spark hatch]

alr, any color preferance/

[chrome raft]

96%

[urban glade]

Or hhkb+numpad

[leaden smelt]

not really. I do like volume slider though

I wish DAS wasn't so darn expensive for what it had

[manic ravine]

I’m using like the biggest keyboard you can atm lol

[urban glade]

60 + numpad is fun

[leaden smelt]

yeah, I use the 10 keys constantly for work and play

[spark hatch]

https://akkogear.de/search?type=product%2Carticle%2Cpage%2Ccollection&options[prefix]=last&q=3108*

[chrome raft]

ngl that doesn't look aesthetically pleasing

[leaden smelt]

you know, high intensity games like

[urban glade]

I use numpad quite often

[boreal rivet]

cope

[spark hatch]

if you really want the volume knob thats complicates things, theres not many 100%'s with knobs (at least that ik of)

[urban glade]

Hey mx

[boreal rivet]

hey yui

[manic ravine]

That’s mine

[chrome raft]

i'm coping

[spark hatch]

where you seeing that?

[leaden smelt]

rtings

[manic ravine]

Rtings is a great site

Especially for headphones

[boreal rivet]

good

[leaden smelt]

only thing I got mad at was a monitor recommendation, though Toms was worse

switched a shitty Dell monitor (they couldn't support the issue so refunded it) with a M32Q and life was good

[violet pumice]

How about keychron k10?

It a little bit pricy but for what you get it a deal

[manic ravine]

What is the best budget hot swap wireless keyboard?

[violet pumice]

Rk

[spark hatch]

rk61

[manic ravine]

That’s one I saw

[violet pumice]

I only use rk one and the rest of my boards are redragon

[spark hatch]

why red dragon?

[violet pumice]

Cuz I got insane deals on it

[manic ravine]

My keyboards are mainly Corsair

k55 and K100

[spark hatch]

fair enough

[opaque shard]

Keys are placed according to the length of each finger.

The alpha keys are in Colemak-DH layout. Meaning they are ordered by frequency so that the most used keys are placed directly underneath where your fingers rest.

Modifiers are configured as hold-taps on the homerow, so you don't need to move any fingers to reach Ctrl, Shift etc.

Remaining alphas that don't fit on the base layer are configured to be accessed through pressing multiple keys simultaneously. This means I don't have to move my pinky anymore, it's only used for pressing down, not moved to another key.

The split nature allows you to place each half further away from each other, allowing you to pull your shoulders back and get a nicer sitting posture. It also allows you to angle them however you want, meaning less strain on your wrist.

Stuff like symbols are accessed by holding down the thumb key to activate new layers. Kinda like an Fn button, only there's more of them.

[manic ravine]

Oh lord

[violet pumice]

My k599 that suppose to cost 59$ I got it got for only 39$

[manic ravine]

My keyboard was $230 .-.

[opaque shard]

I personally find it easier to use because the shape of the keyboard is designed to more naturally fit human hands.

[manic ravine]

Ye I see

[violet pumice]

Also did you know the most famous redragon k552 now come with a pro model with usb c and Bluetooth

For 59$

[spark hatch]

myn is arounf 500-600$? cant remember somewherer in there tho

[leaden smelt]

Keychron C2 looks interesting too bad no pasthrough ( I can deal) and no volume wheel (sadface)

[violet pumice]

Hopefully keychron is going to come out with another Q series for full size that have a knob

[spark hatch]

Idk about the pass through but you might be able to find a knob board

[manic ravine]

Oh but mine is a prebuilt and only interchangeable thing is key caps

[spark hatch]

but im not sure where, I dont know any full size board with a knob

[chrome raft]

only thing i can think of is the everest

[opaque shard]

Meanwhile my custom designed keyboard costs like 80 euros lol

[manic ravine]

Lol

[spark hatch]

corsair doesnt have standard bottom row so keycaps arnt even even really interchangebale

[manic ravine]

It does now

The newest flagship has a standard bottom row

The K100

[spark hatch]

I used to have the g915, im pretty sure that cost me 300$

[leaden smelt]

Ducky Shine 7

[spark hatch]

ah I usee

ducky's alr I think? dont hear much about them

[chrome raft]

pure pain

[violet pumice]

Ducky is mid

They ain't that bad now

[spark hatch]

yea

[chrome raft]

it was a very good budget full sized gaming keyboard in like 2019

but now its just uncompetitive

[opaque shard]

@manic ravine
Here's my keymap

[violet pumice]

Although I don't like the new corsair 65% with a knob keyboard. Don't get me wrong it good for some people but the lack of hotswap kinda mess things up

[opaque shard]

It's cool because I get all my keys and symbols while baring moving any fingers

[chrome raft]

it's trash

[leaden smelt]

https://www.daskeyboard.com/p/4q-smart-rgb-mechanical-keyboard/

[violet pumice]

Lol you said it all with one word

[spark hatch]

never heard of it

https://us-mountainggshop.com/products/everest-max

[leaden smelt]

God thats ugly

[violet pumice]

Oh yea that board

😭 🙏

Thought it would surprise everyone but it didn't

[high vine]

bring back the "modular" Zboard keyboard

[chrome raft]

preference

im indifferent to that design

i dont really care

[leaden smelt]

hrm, I hate to say it the K95 looks like a good option

sorry K70 I meant

hrm, https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Gaming-Keyboards/RGB-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboards/K70-RGB-PRO-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/p/CH-9109412-NA

[chrome raft]

its trash

[chrome raft]

why do you think it is a good option for you

[leaden smelt]

Size, mx browns, rgb for visibility and volume

Looking at the recent k70 pro

Reviews all around seem to sing the praises, and it has actually browns (if bought direct)

[chrome raft]

keychron q3 exists

[ionic briar]

its not full size tho, thats kinda a problem

[leaden smelt]

Ew tkl

And wow, your profile text.... Another ew

[chrome raft]

oh yeah i forgot why did i think the person wanted a tkl

i forgot the k70 is fulsize

[ionic briar]

q5 would be more suitable

but its not out yet

[chrome raft]

oh yeah forgot about it

[leaden smelt]

Don't really want compact

Full but no macro

[chrome raft]

you should probably wait for the q5

[leaden smelt]

No interest in compact

[chrome raft]

its not compact

its full size

[leaden smelt]

Look at it, it's a. Compact design. Specifically the arrow keys

[chrome raft]

yeah its more compact then a fullsize

but its still a fullsize

it has all the features of a fullsize

[leaden smelt]

yeah, I don't care about that, I want the layout.

[chrome raft]

why do you want strictly 100% keyboards

like why buy a keeb with a layout if you don't care about the features it provides

[leaden smelt]

because I use the layout to help professionally with various tasks.... with a compressed layout it doesn't work well

[chrome raft]

how does it not work well

[latent blaze]

brother it has the same keys

K10 is solid i think

Keychton

Plus its hotswap

[spark hatch]

keychron

and yes its alr

[leaden smelt]

likely looking at the c2

[spark hatch]

also good just less features and differnt design

[restive knoll]

i woke up today to my keyboard beeping at me when i click shift + backspace, but i'm pretty sure it's a setting in windows

not sure how it got turned on but i want to turn it off, only thing i can find with a quick google search is sticky keys, but i already have it off

and it's not that sticky keys warning chime that's happening, it's more of a boop boop sound 😂

or doo doo

real quick when i click shift + backspace, almost like it's triggering a push to talk or something

that's the type of sound

[jaunty arrow]

Im building a keyboard with lowest possible budget. I'm tryna find keycaps similar to samurai's for around 20-25$. Any suggestions? They dont need to be exact same. Also, a space design is acceptable.

[chrome raft]

aliexpress or taobao but please dont buy clones

thats basically piracy

[strange sand]

bruh

how is it piracy 💀

cheaper options

[sweet thunder]

Clones > r/mm scalpers

[chrome raft]

no

[sweet thunder]

Yes

[chrome raft]

no

[sweet thunder]

Scalpers can go step on lego

[chrome raft]

companies who make clones should step on switch stems

[strange sand]

what about the amazon keybaords

[chrome raft]

some are ok

some are trash

only for smol budget

[strange sand]

mine is the drevo tyrfing v2, it feels like a 100 dollar keyboard even though its 45

[strange sand]

ye

[latent blaze]

Theres some good cheap redragon keebs on amazon

[spark hatch]

you're stealing someones elses design

how is that not piracy

[strange sand]

ye

[strange sand]

is piracy limited for software or for everytrhing?

[spark hatch]

everything

I think

im not a lawer

is defiantly piracy tho

[sweet thunder]

designers should work with cheaper manufacturers

but i guess gotta protect the aftermarket prices

[strange sand]

hm

[chrome raft]

that means lower quality

[sweet thunder]

if GMK moq was set at 10000 it would probably cost like $60 for a base kit

not to mention GMK quality has been going down the drain the last few years

[chrome raft]

proof?

[sweet thunder]

can't tell if you're serious rn

are you actually oblivious to all the spacebar issues, and the issues they ran into with the new lower case mods?

this isn't even counting the logistics issues they've been having

over the last 2 and a bit years

or that they have 100+ sets in queue

they're also taking on a whole new keycap profile, I mean hopefully it means they'll be getting new machines for those so GMK wait times don't balloon to 2+ years

[chrome raft]

well i remember the spacebar issues

but the logistics is normal

[thorny ember]

you could buy a completed keyboard that's hot-swappable and then replace just the parts you don't like

[chrome raft]

true

but prebuilt keyboards are usually worse then custom keyboards

[thorny ember]

i really like my keychron c1, for example, and it was like $60 out the door.

you start looking at kits, you'll spend more than that just for the case and board

go watch some youtube videos, there's lots of people reviewing keyboards and kits

tbh... you look at spending like, between $50-130, that's a nice board. Any more than that you're getting a boutique keyboard with diminishing returns

[chrome raft]

bm60 is a kit about 60 bucks and has a full aluminum case

bm80

[thorny ember]

yeah, then what, another 30 for switches and another 25 for keycaps?

[chrome raft]

you still have to pay for the switches and maybe keycaps on the prebuilt

[thorny ember]

again, keychron c1, $60 for the whole thing

[chrome raft]

technically anything beyond a rubber dome is dimminishing returns

[thorny ember]

i can swap the caps or switches anytime

[chrome raft]

yeah but its not alu

also its tray mount

[thorny ember]

cant have everything

i cant spend all night playing video games tonight

[swift forge]

lmao, requiring a aluminium case for gaming 🤣

explains how hard the keys are mashed in an LoL or Starcraft II tournament

[strange sand]

https://tenor.com/view/socker-smoked-fat-asia-pc-gif-7960508

discord moderators that play league

bruh

embed fail

[thorny ember]

I can't play tonight because my doctor is sending me on a sleep study at 9

[chrome raft]

ok

[swift forge]

Wrong terminology*

I meant something else

“Always” is a bit of an exaggeration tbh, I’ve changed

Trying to learn more than explain

[boreal rivet]

You ain't learning shit if you're still trying to deny that your explanation was blatantly wrong

I think it's best if you keep your mouth shut until you grow more then 3 brain cells

[swift forge]

Already learnt that you can't keep yours shut in public and give me a hiding elsewhere because I messed up, causing near-initiation of flame-warring and ruining the reputation of whatever "good" I have "left" in me for benevolent usage

[boreal rivet]

dont care didnt ask

[swift forge]

which is why you're only ever here and #audio-tech, doesn't appear you're welcome elsewhere

[boreal rivet]

I don't really care for the current pc market, or the people who stay in other channels

why should i chat there hm?

[swift forge]

sounds like a second-hand excuse for your attitude towards others with "atypical" viewpoints

[boreal rivet]

cope and seethe

[swift forge]

but whatever, I'll just take turns using this channel

I'll talk when you're done

[boreal rivet]

its best if you don't talk at all

lest you mislead others with your stupid theories

[swift forge]

misunderstanding is not the same as theorising; not that you're half as open to understand this as a soldered battery

[spark hatch]

or they're just more knowledgeable in keyboard and audio. Or they realise theres alreeady lots of people in other channels

[boreal rivet]

sure you may be misunderstanding things, but you then decide to use those ideas that you misunderstood to explain something that you can simply google

thats literally theorising

and not to mention you present those theories as fact

so just stfu kid

[swift forge]

or, I may just be using malapropisms more often than not since I haven't read a book in 2 years

but hey, I'm different now, don't throw me in a dough barrel the instant you see me, observe before prejudice

[boreal rivet]

sounds like a you problem

maybe stop talking until you fix that 🤷‍♂️

[swift forge]

I'm diffused across all topics regarding tech, so in-depth knowledge is subjective

[boreal rivet]

I have, no difference

[boreal rivet]

me too, yet I don't go presenting my assumptions and theories as fact to randoms who don't know any better

[swift forge]

and actually, it may be beneficial for you since you'll know whats on a tech noob's mind so you can aid them better

[boreal rivet]

get a grip ffs

[swift forge]

righting the wrong can be more beneficial than harmful

imo

[boreal rivet]

and how many times have I done that now?

yet you still refuse to listen

[swift forge]

maybe you're just not the type of kid that does it enjoyably, nor allows the other side to enjoy anything other than pure scolding

[boreal rivet]

and so you're saying you enjoy knowingly misleading others?

I enjoy teaching others, I dont enjoy trying to teach others who don't listen and continue to be ignorant children after being corrected atleast 5 times at this point

[swift forge]

No, I am not knowingly misleading them, more so without understandable alternatives

have I been doing this recently? Don’t think so

[boreal rivet]

so use the brain your mother gave you as well as the common sense you gained throughout your life to understand that that is called misleading others.

oh really?

[boreal rivet]

and this is?

[crimson isle]

tfw they just released mechanical MX keys, lel

if you want mx keys but also a mechanical, could just get the new mechanical MX keys

[swift forge]

Correct it for me

[outer swan]

https://tenor.com/view/razer-keyboard-cute-keyboard-gif-12158413

this the one i roll wit 🙂

exsept mines the mini

[chrome raft]

https://forms.gle/XpecZzbiUtBRMwxq5 any of ya'll want to join a GB!

[chrome raft]

nice

wait thats plastic?

3d printed

yeah thats plastic

wow

im probably not buying that

[boreal rivet]

not metal = bad amirite

average keyboard enthusiast moment

[ionic briar]

i mean, the og model m is a plastic case with thicc plate so 🤷‍♂️

[chrome raft]

true

[chrome raft]

yea the price says it

around 120 bucks

not really that bad, has stabs, pcb, orings, base plate and half plate option

anybody have a Q2

I think I'mma get one

[cinder coral]

Friend of mine has it and loves it.

He's not very particular about keyboards in general, but he does say it's the best he's owned and he's been gaming for quite some time. So not an enthusiast level opinion, but not one to write off either.

[chrome raft]

qk65 is better

[cinder coral]

isnt the qk65 more expensive and has to be group buy too?

important to keep in mind.

maybe not group buy, but from what im finding, its definitely pricier.

[ionic briar]

the price for the barebone is the same as the q2

[chrome raft]

but I like that knob bro

[ionic briar]

but it is indeed a gb board

[chrome raft]

its not gb

its also 150 bucks

just a little more expensive then q2

[chrome raft]

ok

q2 is fine

[cinder coral]

Ah okay not so much more

ngl i do favor prebuilts with knobs, myself...

[storm scaffold]

theres nothing wrong with getting a normal keybord and getting a macropad with knobs

it may cost a little more but not many premium boards come with knobs anymore

but there are ones that you can program to increase volume, etc

[chrome raft]

nah I want a custom keeb

I'm already in it but I wanna upgrade

[storm scaffold]

i meant a normal custom

[chrome raft]

expand my collection

[storm scaffold]

and a custom macropad with knobs

[cinder coral]

Yeah im definitely going to do a custom macropad one of these days because at home i generally don't go for layouts with numpads

also, id like one for gaming as well.

[spark hatch]

no but I have the q1

[chrome raft]

the Q2 is a little thinner

[spark hatch]

not thinner, just doesnt have f row

its basically the same board otherwise

[crimson isle]

that isn't being on fire tho, that's exploding

melting isn't burning either

has to actively be on fire, like a campfire
otherwise its just melting or smth

could technically do it ig, mostly thinking about the frame itself, PCB would be gone wayyyy before the shell around it at least

[forest verge]

question; would a blunt knife work for removing keycaps? i dont have a zipper or special tool

or what else would work

its a G213 if that helps any bit

[ionic briar]

i would suggest using 2 zip ties tied up to make a loop

[spark hatch]

yea

also if you have tough fingers yo;u can just pull them off. but if you have solf hands that would probably be pretty painful

[chrome raft]

steel plate

[spark hatch]

oh, didnt know that

[chrome raft]

q2 sounds more 'closed'

or dampened

[spark hatch]

yea

I did know that

[chrome raft]

ok

[forest verge]

dont got any zip ties on me

[cinder coral]

You can use any tool you want, but i'd recommend something that wont damage the plastic on the keycaps, and try to lift straight up as to not damage the switch.

the tools that exist are designed to not touch the switch, grab the entire bottom of the cap, and lift straight instead of angled.

[forest verge]

where can i buy it?

[atomic trout]

Hello guys I need suggestions for a very good TKL mechanical keyboard for gaming and work. budget is around $300

[cinder coral]

just search keycap puller on literally any platform like aliexpress or amazon and you'll find tons. they're dirt cheap.

[forest verge]

👍 thanks

[steady hatch]

keychron q1

[spark hatch]

q3*

q1 is a 75%

[atomic trout]

Sadly I can't find it on Amazon

[loud garnet]

https://www.logitech.com/en-roeu/products/combos/mk850-wireless-keyboard-mouse.html
Anyone got opinions about this one?

Searching for both a mouse and keyboard, I currently use a very very older version of this combo

it's just SO HARD to find keyboards selling here in Portugal with hand rest but no lights

Only found this one on logitech website, not on any oficial retailer here and amazon is not much of a choice because there is no amazon pt, only on spain

[chrome raft]

trash

[chrome raft]

keep the mouse and buy a standalone keyboard

[loud garnet]

problem is the mouse

[chrome raft]

how is it a problem

[loud garnet]

does not click 🤣 currently using a wired mouse I found thrown around here

[chrome raft]

if the keyboard works i recommend upgrading the mouse

i dont know anything about mice

keeb+mouse combos are trash

do not buy

[loud garnet]

my guess is the general opinion here is one should get a keyboard with replacable keycaps I assume?

[chrome raft]

no

replacable switches

and also not tray mount

[loud garnet]

why no tray mount?

[chrome raft]

tray mount is very inconsistent

and stiff

[loud garnet]

just to make sure we are refering same thing, by tray mount you mean the black part on the under the keyboard, the one I called hand rest?

[chrome raft]

no

tray mount is how you secure the pcb/plate to the case

[swift forge]

Agreed

[loud garnet]

oh ok, my bad. my keyboard knowledge is not much, watched a few short circuits and that's there

[swift forge]

And in the case of a decent mouse the keyboard is trash

[chrome raft]

https://www.keyboard.university/

this is a very helpful resource for beginners

[loud garnet]

my current keyboard and old mouse, they were a logitech combo

[chrome raft]

do you want to upgrade moth your keyboard and your mouse

both

[swift forge]

those both need an upgrade, defo

[chrome raft]

ok so how much money are you willing to spend on both of them

[swift forge]

wrong person I was commenting

[spark hatch]

Has to be from Amazon?

If your only shop from there it really looks more your choices

[latent blaze]

Budget? If you want to go real cheap you can get a redragon k552(i think thats the right number) for the keyboard for like 30-40$ and mouse is rly preference based on hand size, grip etc but glorious has some good offerings around 50-60$. I personally use the hyperx pulsefire haste and i like it and palm grip with fairly big hands

If you have a bit of a bigger budget i recommend looking at keychron’s offerings for the keyboard, they have super high quallity for the price and are much better than anything cheaper

[swift forge]

If you prefer customisability as a key factor for a mouse buy the Pwnage Ultra Custom Ergo Wireless

One of the cheapest wireless mice around, for gaming - this ain’t a marketing gimmick for mice

for keyboards yep it is, but if you choose well it isn’t completely for mice

Another pick is the Pulsar Xlite/Xlite Wireless/Xlite V2 (wireless)

First one is only $50 USD on Amazon, second $79, third around a hundred

Best feature is the first one comes with grip tape, second is USB-C charging and receiver wireless, plus only 59g, same for third

And this company is renowned for making glass mouse skates, if you want an uncontrollably smooth glide (and believe me it is very wild and untamed) you can switch out stock feet for Pulsars Superglide feet

[lean bison]

What is the best keyboard lube for gateron ink v2 switches

[civic pulsar]

205g0, 105 for the springs

[steady elm]

best portable gaming keyboard price doesnt matter

thinkiing for huntsman mini

[zealous comet]

i want a mechanical keyboard with rgb any cool suggestions

[steady elm]

bugedt

?

[zealous comet]

100 bucks

or less

[steady elm]

keychrone k2 v2

[zealous comet]

does it break?

[steady elm]

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Huntsman-Mini-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B08B3JSKGR?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

[zealous comet]

looks neat

lemme see if its in my country

[steady elm]

whats ur country

[zealous comet]

zimbabwe but i normally buy tech from south africa its cheaper ther

[steady elm]

ok but how

💀

you say alexa type a

[chrome raft]

keycult 1/60

[chrome raft]

trash do not buy

[spark hatch]

^

[unkempt dome]

nuphy air 75 most likely

[chrome raft]

it doesnt seem low profile is a priority

[unkempt dome]

said portable ...

that's about the most portable there is that I know of

[chrome raft]

true

but it doesnt seem like he need a keyboard that portable

bc hes looking at a razer huntsman mini

so low profile doesnt really matter

[unkempt dome]

assumption there

said portable and I went with it ... doesn't matter if it's low profile or not ...

[chrome raft]

this isnt low profile

[unkempt dome]

and ...

[chrome raft]

so im pretty sure the person isnt looking for a lp keyboard

[unkempt dome]

assumption you made there

it's not cause the keyboard that was linked is not low profile that a low profile one would not be suitable and portable enough

[chrome raft]

?

dont understand what you wrote

[unkempt dome]

better now ...

[chrome raft]

still dont get what you mean

[unkempt dome]

then forget about it

[spark hatch]

they're looking for a porable kb, doesnt matter if its low profile or not

[chrome raft]

yeah ik

and non low profile leyboards usually feel better

[unkempt dome]

then why did you emphasized on the fact that the one I suggested was low profile that much ...

also feel is preference

[chrome raft]

because low profile keyboard usually feel worse then a good normal profile keyboard

[unkempt dome]

that's kind of irrelevant there

cause main point was portable

[chrome raft]

yes

and it looks like a 60% keyboard is considered portable

[thorny ember]

Is there clarity if they want 60% or 65%?

[unkempt dome]

no

[old palm]

I got the keychron c1 hot swappable keyboard. It's quite nice

[chrome raft]

yes

you should be considering swapping out the switch to some better ones

[old palm]

already did

[latent blaze]

What switches did you go with?

[vital bough]

What's the best way to clean your keyboard keys from this kind of stuff that's just on top of all the keys? Pretty much the only way I can think of is to just scratch it off by hand, which would take forever to do

[ashen pine]

i use pure-ish (99%) isopropyl alcohol to clean my stuff usually

it gets rid of most gunk like this and evaporates very fast

use a bit on a rag

[urban glade]

Take caps off and use soapy water

[woeful lantern]

would remove as then you can use something to wipe the board clean

[chrome raft]

Um so my razer blackwidow v3 is kinda weird. idk what happened but now the volume wheel is scrolling

what do I do

like if I use the volume button up or down it will scroll up and down the page

you can probably change that in the razer software

how

im in synapse and when I click on it it still says volume up and down and mute

[gloomy quest]

change it to something else then change it back to volume

[chrome raft]

nice

[spark hatch]

Use a damp cloth

[mossy peak]

I have finally gone Tenkeyless

[chrome raft]

next time dont get a logitech keyboard

[swift forge]

He probably did it since he needs UK English layout

The enter key tells it all

[chrome raft]

keychron q1 and q2 and q3 all have iso support

[swift forge]

Gaming kb marketing, less minimalistic than Keychron so a lot more people will know of gaming boards than typists

[chrome raft]

?

keycrhon is much more minimalistic

[spark hatch]

yea~

[swift forge]

That’s my point

Not everyone will have heard of them :p since they don’t put adverts everywhere

Logitech, Razer have tons of people marketing ads around any website people go to so customers know about their existence more often than Keychron, Happy Hacking etc

[chrome raft]

thats the point of this channel

to inform people about smaller brand s that might not have the attention they deserve

[swift forge]

Yea, he probably doesn’t check on this place 😢

[chrome raft]

true

[swift forge]

Just thought this was r/keyboards where people hype over Razer Huntsmans

[chrome raft]

bruh lmao

[mossy peak]

I literally asked this server and based on my preferences most pointed me to the G915 series

One thing I took from this is to never buy a Razer Keyboard again

[swift forge]

most?

not here

[swift forge]

no one pointed you to the g915, you chose that yourself

and you asked in #tech-chat-1, they only know keyboard basics. Ask here in #peripherals you get specialists

[spark hatch]

no one in this channel would have told you to get that. unless some random came into the channeland told you too

[swift forge]

well now that you already have it, so long as you're happy keep it

[spark hatch]

mhm

[swift forge]

but I dislike how its low-profile keys are wobbly af

Takes me more time to send a message on my G815 (wired model of G915) than my Pro X Keyboard rn (don't kill me i7 I'll hot-swap)

[swift forge]

it was in #tech-chat-1

[spark hatch]

ah yea

[tepid hound]

https://www.amazon.ca/Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-Backlit-Portable/dp/B09JRSXS37/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=mechanical+keyboard&qid=1653785958&sprefix=mecha%2Caps%2C82&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExWFJUNkdOSDFCUEVKJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjU3ODk5MkRYUUVaMzAyVjNaUyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzAzNDk2MUFaSVFJQzJFWlYzUiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= how is this for mechanical keyboard?

is there any thats good for canada?

I looked into keychron but the shipping is too much for canada

[chrome raft]

ayy

boba U4T and snowglobes ( clear reskined saphire v2)

[tepid hound]

daaaaaamn thats nice

is getting a hotswap keyboard worth it?

kind of having mixed opinions ngl

[chrome raft]

I mean

are you going out of your way to hotswap?

like what is your current plan and what would be your alternative if you didn't need hotswap

[chrome raft]

also budget is important to consider

[tepid hound]

honestly any keyboard that seems like a good deal

I was considering keychrons c1

but shipping cost too much

[tepid hound]

get brown switches and use them

[chrome raft]

oh alr reliable choice

totals to about 70

[tepid hound]

yeah

CAD?

[chrome raft]

usd

[chrome raft]

whats your max budget is cad/

[tepid hound]

60 CAD doesnt have to be hot swappable

[chrome raft]

you prefer tactile then?

[tepid hound]

yeah

I like tactile tried them out on my friends keyboard

[chrome raft]

hmm I might have an idea lemme check it out

oh nice

[chrome raft]

have you ever considered other types of tactiles?

[tepid hound]

havent tried

@chrome raft I would be down to tho

[chrome raft]

hmm well if you want to I would really recomend the boba u4t

[tepid hound]

link?/

[chrome raft]

https://switchandclick.com/top-5-best-tactile-switches-for-your-mechanical-keyboard/

really hard tactile feel

and great sound

but not loud

just enough so you hear but won't be noticed by people around you

[tepid hound]

how much is the price for an actual keyboard with these switches

[chrome raft]

lemme look at a few bords and I'll give you a final price

[tepid hound]

alr tyvm!

[chrome raft]

yeah ofc np

[chrome raft]

rgb and tkl right?

[tepid hound]

tkl?

[swift forge]

80%, minus a numpad

[tepid hound]

yes

[swift forge]

thats what TKL means

tenkeyless

a numpad is comprised of 10 keys

[chrome raft]

ok if you're willing to go open box but new

[swift forge]

in the case there is a 0, which I find frustrating on cheaper keyboards where the "0" key doesn't exist on the numpad

[tepid hound]

I am

[tepid hound]

I see

thanks!

[chrome raft]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185387400470?epid=5044272519&hash=item2b29f33d16:g:kL8AAOSwsfJiWcYM&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4MYtv4ZvW3I64zevzo5mZcZlxzaLggX47ptJ0GSP%2FgWYc5OP1NATd2pxVuGM2qTnLKVD4mPonbZMq4kZEkmK4UVCFwynFnKmAUZb76NF4tUBAF4dYCXUamI6MA6fsYPsUG8F5CYT6s7I1s6KkLbr2Eez1vdaKmgZd7o%2F8C5SC8N8rXyhtB0WkKThH1s688z4A%2Bjargxtks7E7rm7aEjfCuE%2BDfOMkfssQaoHmNysnYy5EydbQ5IwTklgKReUKKutCixwGfHyptlt%2FVryJLgvQ6PXzWr2gGtoHKfsyUxVnTdp|tkp%3ABFBMoIP316Fg#shpCntId

this is the evga z15

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=821-W1-15US-KR

it's a whole keyboard with wrist wrist media keys

brushed aluminum

and great rgb

overall

[tepid hound]

it seems like a great option but I dunno if my parents will allow me to go for ebay

[chrome raft]

way more then anything comparable for the price

[tepid hound]

they prefer retailers

[tepid hound]

100% I would buy it rn if it was my choice

[chrome raft]

you can just show them this if you want

it's covered

so if it's a faulty product you get all your money back

[tepid hound]

alright I will try!

but is there any options from retailers if its white backlight and with those keys?

doesnt have to be hot swappable

I will def show them that tho

[chrome raft]

that's there cheapest option

the lights can be made white

since it's rgb and can be any color

[tepid hound]

yeah I am aware of that but arent there keyboards that only have white backlight

that are cheaper

[chrome raft]

uhh

[tepid hound]

than normal rgb keyboards

[chrome raft]

for 30 bucks

you're pushing it with quality

[tepid hound]

it doesnt have to be this exact model / price range

[chrome raft]

ik um the only other thing would be red dragon but then you would be getting full plastic and minimal features

are you trying to save more money or do you just not want rgb?

[swift forge]

I was going to recommend them that, but gj

another option is Ducky's lineup, Ducky One 3 in particular has a low latency PCB suitable for gaming

[chrome raft]

yeah I got the z20 myself

[tepid hound]

not save money necessarily I just prefer stuff not on ebay cuz my parents would probably disapprove

[swift forge]

z20 is just insane, literally a feature where it has audio passthrough and can do certain things when you're away from the keyboard

[tepid hound]

doesnt have to be gaming btw

I am using it for productivity

programming and such

[swift forge]

oh ok

I'm stereotyping RGB too much nowadays ._.

[tepid hound]

dwdw

I am just saying in general LOL

[swift forge]

if you're a fast typer, N-key rollover <----

[tepid hound]

RGB is cool it wouldnt be bad to have it but its not a requirement

[swift forge]

basically you can mash several keys at once and they'll simultaneously register

[tepid hound]

does 100 wpm count as fast

[chrome raft]

https://www.rgbkb.net/products/snow-globe-switches?_pos=1&_sid=c69dee645&_ss=r
https://www.rgbkb.net/products/boba-u4t-rgb-tactile-switches
my two recs for your price range in terms of switches

[swift forge]

we are in the same speed zone

and yes, thats fast enough for N-key rollover to help

if you're consistent at that speed

typically worth it if you're like 150wpm+

[tepid hound]

oh so that was the board alone? (the ebay link)

[swift forge]

no

[tepid hound]

and this can be replaced on the board

for switches

[swift forge]

the EVGA Z15 has in-built switches too

[tepid hound]

ic

[tepid hound]

ah

[swift forge]

but yes, they can be replaced

[chrome raft]

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Keyboard-Hotswappable-Mechanical-821-W1-15US-KR/dp/B096KS4L45/ref=sr_1_4?crid=BSQ2IDCNRVXZ&keywords=evga+z15&qid=1653789447&s=electronics&sprefix=evga+z15%2Celectronics%2C226&sr=1-4

[swift forge]

good thing is, it comes with some linears

[chrome raft]

that's the full keeb

[swift forge]

8x Kalih Speed Silvers are in the box

[chrome raft]

not witch boba btw

[swift forge]

so you can apply them and test to your liking

[swift forge]

If you chose the clicky variant

otherwise, its the Kalih Clicky Bronzes for the linears

[runic saffron]

Bakeneko60+pbt wob keycaps+jwk blacks l+f. What you guys think?

[chrome raft]

yup 30 for an entire keyboard with hot swap ability if you ever want to do that down the line

[tepid hound]

thats pretty hot ngl

ngl I should probably start looking for a job

[chrome raft]

and then 10-15 for 25 pack of switches

[tepid hound]

so I can order whatever I want

[chrome raft]

depending on what you choose

[tepid hound]

and not have to ask my parents

[chrome raft]

lol true

well just tell them that the seller has sold thousands and is highly rated

and you're backed up by ebay

if anything goes wrong

[swift forge]

if the switches are faulty ig its no worry

you have hotswappability

[chrome raft]

i bought 80% of my tech off of ebay

never had a single issue

plus

if you look it up

[runic saffron]

Sounds a bit hollow, but the case is very tight there isn’t much room for foam, any ideas??

[chrome raft]

a aluminum back plate by itself nothing else is almost 30 already

[tepid hound]

yeah

[swift forge]

I swear you desoldered the switches off a Huntsman Mini 💀

literally looks like it

[runic saffron]

What 💀 ew no

[swift forge]

yea note

noted*

[runic saffron]

I didn’t pay all that money to build that for someone to say it looks like a huntsman mini 😭

[swift forge]

there are two alt keys and windows keys

[runic saffron]

Idk where they go LMAOO

[swift forge]

huntsman knocked off the one on the right for an fn

[chrome raft]

just lmk if you ever need help with smth

[tepid hound]

yeah for sure thanks!

btw the keyboard you sent

will it work with mac?

[runic saffron]

Yes

[swift forge]

software won't

[runic saffron]

Keyboards are universal

[swift forge]

but it does work with mac, as do all plug-and-plays

just be wary of one thing, windows = command, alt = option

[tepid hound]

can I order a keycap meant for mac?

[swift forge]

they're switched around in order

[tepid hound]

and then it will be basically mac

[swift forge]

windows is where option is on a mac keyboard, alt is where command is on a mac keyboard

its not just keys, its their functionality

[tepid hound]

yeah

[chrome raft]

i think so lemme check

[swift forge]

you'll need to reverse keycaps on command and option

[chrome raft]

oh wait

nvm

he already explained

[swift forge]

alt = option

[tepid hound]

I currently have a membrane keyboard and I hate I cheaped out like a year and a half ago

[swift forge]

command = windows

[tepid hound]

yeah

[chrome raft]

i have 4 different keyboards for some reason 💀

[tepid hound]

I want to burn my membrane keyboard

its so bad

[chrome raft]

i have this weird blue/butterfly style switch too

weird asf but interesting

[swift forge]

doctors - goofy ah

well there goes a spine I don't have to treat

[tepid hound]

lmaooo

[swift forge]

membrane = cartilage between vertebrae
keyboard = row of vertebrae looking like keyboard hammers

[swift forge]

acupuncturists - 😎 looks like someone enjoys my practice

[chrome raft]

LMAO

[tepid hound]

💀 💀

[chrome raft]

then get a better keyboard

[tepid hound]

[chrome raft]

whats the problem with that

[tepid hound]

nothing but the whole point i was talking here was to look for a new keyboard LOL

[chrome raft]

budget?

[tepid hound]

50 USD

[chrome raft]

layout?

[chrome raft]

guy what do you think: gmmk2 65% vs mount everest 60% or is there a keyboard for about 150$ or less which is better

[chrome raft]

qk65

why

full alu

gasket mount

decent amount of flex

good sound porfile

well sound is preference but i think a lot of people will like the sound porfile

profile

[hazy iron]

I found a keyboard whilst looking for a new set of caps....

its practical but it seems weird

[tepid hound]

60%

or tkl

[latent blaze]

Whats weird about it? Looks like normal iso tkl unless im missing something

[hazy iron]

it took me a second as well, i was looking at it since I felt something was off but the I saw it

[chrome raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWiWpuNHTts

:D

[sweet thunder]

that's pretty neat

[cinder coral]

such a cool layout. Wish it came with a hotswap pcb, but I don't think so.

reminds me of the acr98 mini as well because of that minimal numpad.

[latent blaze]

Oh shit i just realized there’s a numpad instead of the useless keys

[chrome raft]

keychron c1 or rk61

this is the most cursed thing https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915658421238394920/978846185165049856/DSC09637.JPG

i found this in a keyboard channel

in the r/sffpc discord

[tepid hound]

yeah I wanted the c1 but the shipping charges

like $20 for shippin 😭

[spark hatch]

thats normal

basically all keyboard things have that or more. my shipping from keychron is 40$ so I wouldnt complain

[inner lichen]

Is Keychron the best?
I really want the K4 hot swap model or the full size K10, can't seem to find better than it

[gloomy quest]

how often do you guys clean your keyboards

also what is your preferred method of doing so

[oblique mantle]

Just cross my fingers that it doesn't get dirty

so smart, I know

[chrome raft]

just dont get your keyboard dirty

ez

[chrome raft]

no

akko mod 003 is better

since its gasket mount

[latent blaze]

Clean keycaps when they get dirty with taking them out and putting them in soapy water. While theyre off i clean the board with isopropyl and a cloth

[graceful lintel]

are rose red good? or not?

[unkempt dome]

Gasket mount is preference ... it's not better nor worst

[chrome raft]

its probably better then tray mount though

[spark hatch]

I think my friend has those (ill double check) and im pretty sure he quite likes them

[graceful lintel]

thank you soo much i gonna buy those switches

[tepid hound]

yeah but I rather spend that extra money on something like a better keyboard

instead of $20 for shipping $20 for hotswap or full RGB

and I can go pick it up at my local best buy if needed

keychron keyboard is def good but idk if $20 shipping is worth it

[spark hatch]

whats your budget?

[tepid hound]

like $50 - $60

[spark hatch]

if the c1 is too much for you get an rk61

otherwise save your money

[hazy iron]

anyone know of a nice set of black keycaps that fit otemus or however the fuck you spell it

idealy under $25

[spark hatch]

just all black?

or white on black

[hazy iron]

ideally all black

[spark hatch]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1652

[hazy iron]

cheers

[spark hatch]

these also exist but i have no idea of there quility: https://www.amazon.com/Profile-Keycaps-Switches-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B06XKFPYZB/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=blank%2Bkeycaps&qid=1653928655&sr=8-4&th=1

[chrome raft]

tbh when it comes to switches you can measure some stuff like quality, wobbliness, etc, but in the end it's mostly down to preference so best is to get a tester otherwise as long as it's in your general preference you'll probably be plenty happy

[graceful lintel]

Can you show me a tester?

My original blue switches broke easily that's why

[chrome raft]

https://kprepublic.com/products/acrylic-switch-tester-akko-switch-for-mechanical-keyboard-rose-red-matcha-green-ocean-blue-lavender-purple-radiant-vintage-white?variant=41729258455203&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic

[graceful lintel]

Thanks

[chrome raft]

mhm np

[graceful lintel]

When I tried to replace with another blue switch it's like thaat

Is that normal?

[spark hatch]

no

its not all the way inot the socket

[graceful lintel]

What should I do

[spark hatch]

before ytou start resoldering a switch make sure its puched in all the way

[graceful lintel]

How?

[spark hatch]

if the switch is working fine and you dont feel like taking the baord all back apart you acn just leave it

[graceful lintel]

Like if I wanna fix it I need to push harder?

[spark hatch]

if you want to fix it, take the board all apart, desolder the switch, push it all the way in, then resolder it

[graceful lintel]

All apart which mean all of the switches?

[spark hatch]

no, just down to the pcb

[graceful lintel]

Ohh I see

Thank you sooo much

[spark hatch]

remove the pcb, desolder switch, push it all the way in, resolder switch

[graceful lintel]

Pcb mean?

[spark hatch]

? yea you gotta remove the pcb from the case (plastic case)