peripherals

[rich cloud]

Does anyone know where I can buy a cheap hot swappable PCB?

That was probably the most unhelpful comment anyone has ever given.

[spark hatch]

Have you ever used an enthusiast baord? They're both pretty bad, I'd never recommend the g915 pretty bad build quility, crappy switches with easily breakable and kinda hard to replace caps and the Apex pro is compreble if you don't have any other options

[spark hatch]

Ali express

[median fern]

I have very nice points of reference

I also have very shit points of reference

[spark hatch]

Right

I mean it's all preference but I cannot agree the g915 is good

[median fern]

For the 95% of the population I can solidly recommend both. I just prefer the g915

[spark hatch]

Keychrons low profiles are way better

Nuphy has a very nice low profile

[spark hatch]

I'd recommend amongst a keychrons, akko, durgod, ect any day over either

Only things it's got going for it is Logitechs wireless thingo

[median fern]

I love my logitech mice, so I do have a bias

[rich cloud]

I'm working on a DIY project and all i need is a hot swappable pcb so I want to find the cheapest one i can as it's just a DIY project.

This one looks a little promising
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003795657883.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.11734f05BZBIGT&algo_pvid=cc6895fb-d01c-4f46-8c5c-7cc35dd1dffc&aem_p4p_detail=2022042811411319403936611595480008009903&algo_exp_id=cc6895fb-d01c-4f46-8c5c-7cc35dd1dffc-39&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000027215023219"}&pdp_npi=1%40dis|USD||25.95|||||%402100bb5116511712739066883e7ae0|12000027215023219|sea

[woeful lantern]

logitech is a mess for mice og g502 good g502 hero crap mxmaster 3 good and their cheap stuff is okay keyboards even more a mess

[tired rapids]

Logitech is good if you can spend money for it

Swiss Accessories

[rich cloud]

Logitech G502 lightspeed mouse is good. The best mouse I have ever used. The design is near perfect, great sensor, great connection, great adjustable weight. and the battery is also good and only needs a couple of hours to fully charge.

One of the best things about this mouse I enjoy is the shape. It's a very comfortable fit.

[tired rapids]

I like Swiss design though

They are much better than overrated German and Scandinavian ones

[spark hatch]

I like there mice but they have some improvement to do on their boards before I'll buy another one

[woeful lantern]

the hero sensor isn't good at all overrated

it's not bad but there are cheaper and better sensors

[spark hatch]

For my use case if the mouse has adjustable debaounce it's good enough

[woeful lantern]

hero sensor is bad as all the stuff went in 16k dpi for it the og 502 proteus core sensor is better

[rich cloud]

I love the G502 lightspeed. The problem I have is that I don't like the shape of most mice, I like a comfortable fit and the g502 is near perfect. Personally I don't have an issue with the sensor I think it's perfectly fine. However even if the sensor wasn't as good (which I don't agree with) I would still chose it for all of the other reasons I have said previously.

I guess it's just preference though.

[woeful lantern]

i'm just disapointed in what logitech did used the og for years then the hero for a year before going to an mx master 3 sensor is closer to the og g502 tho ofc worse but shape is upgraded in comfort

[unkempt dome]

Their mouse and keyboard are miles apart tho

[median fern]

Maybe, but again I have very nasty keebs and very expensive keeps and I always have my g915 ready for backup

[rich cloud]

I will never use a keyboard made by a mainstream company such as, Razer, Logitech, HyperX, Corsair etc. I think you can get an enthusiast one that is a lot better and for lot cheaper.

[median fern]

Just a question of preference

[unkempt dome]

Why are you saying that to me tho ... I'm not the one chilling on logitech stuff

[spark hatch]

Yea~

[rich cloud]

"Their mouse and keyboard are miles apart tho" I was adding onto the conversation saying that mice from these companies are great but for a keyboard you're better off going somewhere else.

[woeful lantern]

hyperx and corsair is fine for people who don't reseach or buy it locally and kids who can't order. but there is a lot better stuff

[unkempt dome]

Never said their mouse are good tho

And never said in which way their keyboard are miles appart

Mouse are normal and keyboard are shit

[median fern]

Apple Magic mouse is the best mouse

[rich cloud]

Bruh are you purposely trying to be argumentative. There was a conversation about keyboards and mice and people discussing their point of views. I was just throwing in my view. Relax

[median fern]

Y'all need to chill

Cherry blues are the best switch

Magic mouse is the best mouse

Costar stabs are the best stabs

[rich cloud]

Oh wow a lot of people wouldn't agree with that 😂 I personally have never used them. However I have heard them....

[median fern]

I got browns that sound like clickies

[woeful lantern]

logitech keyboard mouse combo's are okay but there is better then dell stuff the is better options like microsoft

[rich cloud]

I also have browns, They're clicky but I don't think they are as bad as blues.

[unkempt dome]

Browns are not clicky tho ... they don't have click jacket like blue

[median fern]

I know, but did you hear that enter key

Honorary clicky

[unkempt dome]

No don't watch video

[woeful lantern]

got some cheap blue switches in a board they so bad. vs khail box white click is so bad feeling

[unkempt dome]

That is probably coming from the stabs

[median fern]

Costar stabs

[spark hatch]

Those sound fine to me?

[swift forge]

Most people don’t pay attention in regards to the fact these new sensors are more so personal achievements for the engineers who designed them, and even though only marginally more precise it’s an acknowledgment to the hard work and effort put into making a new scientific breakthrough

[placid kite]

After my 3 keyboard trip to Kailh REDs, Kailh BLUEs and razer switches I went back to membrane. The durability from having a closed system is just too good to pass on. Also I can't get any Kailh replacements ( pack of 5 for €20.. HAHA me ) in my country so if I ever come back I would 100% go for Cherry as those are widely avaiable.

[median fern]

Mmmm, gateron milky yellows would sound like a good fit

Cheap, readily available

[placid kite]

compatible with kailh holes?

[median fern]

At the end of the day they will go in the same slot as the kailh switch

You might need to clip the 2 extra feet but they should fit no problem

90 switches for about 21 USD plus tax and shipping depending on wheee you live

[placid kite]

I don't really care about having the same feel. I just don't feel like throwing 90% good keyboard away lol. Now I need to find someone who ships them here. My goto store has gotten rid of all the switches , apparently including gateron yellows.

yeee idk anymore

50$ for pack of 120 is about as low as I can get.

way better than what option I had previously tho

[latent blaze]

Cherry switches hella overrated imo, i agree on what carlos said on gaterons, though if theyre available in ur region akko makes good budget switches as well milky yellows or gateron ink blacks are good

[placid kite]

They are. But it is kind of like having an iPhone. whereever you go there is someone who has the parts.

[latent blaze]

im kinda confused, what do you mean by the parts? pretty much everything except special more niche mech boards are compatible with one another, i think u might be confused because things are often called “cherry profile” or MX, which are based on cherry’s sizing standard but work with virtually all switches. correct me if im wrong tho

[placid kite]

By niche mech boards you mean some custom made stuff?
I have thought I had to use Kailh switches as a replacement for a KB that came with Kailh holes(only color change allowed). Don't know where I got that info from but I seem to have sworn by it. Now I can only see articles saying they are compatible. Well thanks for helping clear that one out. Whenever I get some time I will probably swap out all of the switches for new ones aswell as keep reserve.

[spark hatch]

I think they mean just like cherry is super common

[median fern]

That’s straight robbery 😂

[latent blaze]

nah by niche im referring to only certain specific types of switch like choc and i think outemu has special mounting

[median fern]

Where do you live @placid kite

[placid kite]

czech republic

[latent blaze]

oops

[median fern]

Interesting, I would think that certain European vendors could help

[placid kite]

managed to find 120 pack of gaterons for 40 USD(shipping is 2 USD)

Regardless of having a warehouse in our country amazon seems to not really be fond of shipping here lol. West and east division is still a thing. especially when it comes down to shopping for niche stuff like KB switches/caps.

[unkempt dome]

Yes outemu have special mounting and akko switches fit in there as well as boba switches

[latent blaze]

bobas also fit regular mounting tho right?

[spark hatch]

Mhm

So does akko

[swift forge]

wrong ethnicity to ask the Czech make great pistol firearms, notably the Alien pistol and CZ-75 which has the ability to fire both .22 and 9mm rounds

so foot perforator and instant head puncture

[median fern]

Damn bro, that crazy bro - but I don't see how asking a relevant question see if there are any better providers to and get a better price is relevant to me getting gunned down in the street like a true Florida Man

[swift forge]

who knows, if he gave you his real address it might as well be the last thing you read

[median fern]

I mean, only if I planned to visit

I can safely rest assured that my virtual connection will protect me for now

[swift forge]

[median fern]

I use nordvpn so I must be safe

[spark hatch]

ever noticed how if you rotate the p and n in nord vpn it says smthn very different

[median fern]

Lol, that’s pretty interesting

[spark hatch]

almost as if it was planned

[unkempt dome]

Yes

[subtle grotto]

obviously the stabs lmao

[spark hatch]

mhm

[queen pond]

How can I fix my cheap mechanical keyboard? All of the keys work except the space bar sometimes does and sometimes doesnt

Like it malfunctions

[unkempt dome]

Is it hotswap ?
Yes : just change the switch
No : desolder the switch and solder a new one

[queen pond]

Welp i guess I just have to buy a new keyboard 'cause 1) I don't know how to desolder or solder stuff and 2) it's really hard to find just switches here in India

I guess I'll just take it to the HP service center and get it replaced if that's possible

[unkempt dome]

hp make mechanical keyboard ?

besides omen I mean ...

[spark hatch]

If so

Ig

[queen pond]

Yeah don't mind it it's like I got it for around $40

It was my first time purchasing a mechanical keyboard so I wanted to buy something cheap

[unkempt dome]

Well you can check if there's interference that would prevent the spacebar to go down all the way to actuation point

[potent void]

So they do

[spark hatch]

Interesting

[inner sedge]

Is it dangerous to disassemble a keyboard

I wanna do it so I can put tape on my keyboard and make it white

[unkempt dome]

just be careful with the cable inside the board and you'll most likely be fine

[spark hatch]

Nope jsut be careful not to break anything, on most baords the only thing you really have to worry about is the cable when you first open the board

[inner sedge]

Does it snip easily

[spark hatch]

Don't cut the wire just unplug it.

[latent blaze]

do NOT cut it pls

[inner sedge]

That doesn't answer

[inner sedge]

What

[spark hatch]

Did you not just say you were gonna cut the cable?

[inner sedge]

No

I asked if it was simple to cut a cable because I wanna disassemble the keyboard

[spark hatch]

Yea, don't cut it

[inner sedge]

I don't wanna break it

[spark hatch]

Just unplug it

[inner sedge]

Wdym unplugggg

I'm talking bout the cable INSIDE the keyboard

Can't unplug it

[spark hatch]

The cable will plug into the keyboards pcb, it should unplug in some

[spark hatch]

Yes I realise

[inner sedge]

Ok

[spark hatch]

Can you send a picture?

[inner sedge]

I m on a trip

I know nothing about the interior of a keyboard

I m acting like I know shit but I don't

[spark hatch]

So you haven't opened said keyboard?

[inner sedge]

No

[spark hatch]

Ok, well there's a plug on the inside of the board. You do not have to cut the cables

[inner sedge]

Ik

I m not that stupid why would I cut the cables

I just wanna put some tape so my keyboard is white

What s inside of a keyboard

[inner sedge]

Do I have to remove the key caps

What do I have to remove before I only have the case

[spark hatch]

Depends on the board

[inner sedge]

Do I unscrew it from behind or is it hidden under the keycaps

[spark hatch]

I'd google a disassembly guide for your specific board

[inner sedge]

By board do you mean key board

[spark hatch]

There's lots of different mounting systems

[spark hatch]

Mhm

[inner sedge]

Mine is a random thing on Amazon so not sure I ll find it

I barely found a review of a 9 year in his basement

[spark hatch]

Screws will be on bottom or under keycaps

[inner sedge]

It's a mk21 pro

[steady hatch]

Looking for some mouse recommendations anyone got one ?

[latent blaze]

Budget?

[steady hatch]

none

Ordered a Mx master 3 but idk

wish it had 250hz

I have a G Pro rn but its very buggy

[latent blaze]

gpro superlight is good hyperx pulsefire haste is solid, and glorious model I looks good

[swift forge]

I don’t think he’s talking the GPX

I believe it’s the wired G Pro, possibly

[swift forge]

Using a gaming mouse at 250hz

Expect it to be buggy, 500hz should be precise though

[steady hatch]

use it at 1000hz

[latent blaze]

huh

Thats my recommendation

[swift forge]

There are various versions of the G Pro

[steady hatch]

G Pro W

[swift forge]

Oh I see

[latent blaze]

didnt see his message tho

[steady hatch]

Either way its the 2nd GPW that is buggy

[swift forge]

G Pro wired, G Pro Wireless (the one that’s black w/ RGB and hotswap buttons) and the Superlight (two colour schemes, no RGB and hotswap)

And lighter than the norm Wireless by 30 grams

[steady hatch]

yeah im still looking for a new mouse

[swift forge]

Still from Logitech or open to other options?

Or both

[steady hatch]

Just looking for good battery life

[latent blaze]

basically preference if u like lighter or medium weight or larger or smaller or whatever, hand size and grip is main thing

[swift forge]

Pro X Superlight it is, lasted me 6 weeks on first charge

[latent blaze]

so u want wireless 100%?

[swift forge]

1000hz as well

[steady hatch]

Had one then it broke

[latent blaze]

Superlight is very good

[steady hatch]

got a refund

[swift forge]

Other people have seen 2 week minimum results as well

[swift forge]

Looks like he don’t trust the superlight anymore

[steady hatch]

Wasnt even using it the battery just didnt charge

[latent blaze]

So it was defective

[swift forge]

Did you order the powerplay version instead of cable charging

Because those are different by a country mile

[steady hatch]

nah

[swift forge]

And beanz, it’s a thing

Which many people are annoyed at - the charging versions

Cabled can’t do powerplay and vice versa

[steady hatch]

If only the MXM 3 has 250hz

[latent blaze]

ik i was just worried that was the case

y u want 250hz

[swift forge]

Yea I was responding to the cringe emoji

[steady hatch]

Because 125hz is real slow

[latent blaze]

isnt superlight 1k

[steady hatch]

I got used to 1k but the 250 is ok

not as noticeable as 125 for me

[swift forge]

1k if you really need precision, 500hz is the go to for good battery life

If you’re still using 250 or 125 get outta here

[steady hatch]

Ill have a look for other options I guess

[swift forge]

Sure it’s fun when you have a 49” ultra wide and the sensor overshoots a shitton on 1600 DPI or smth and you can track one side to the other in one small wrist movement, but impractical usually

[swift forge]

So you really want good battery life

[steady hatch]

Yeah

[swift forge]

I mean look for mice which are disposable battery powered then

Every few months to a year of battery life depending on the type of mouse and use case

[steady hatch]

Yeah I guess thats a good idea

[swift forge]

If you’re keen on Logitech, the G305 is their replace-battery powered buddy

But bad PTFE feet compared to the Superlight

Tarnished, black compared to virgin grade

Are you fine with wired or set on wireless?

[steady hatch]

Wireless

I want to reduce all the cables in my setup

[swift forge]

alr

So we’re going disposable battery?

not rechargeable

[steady hatch]

I guess that would work

[latent blaze]

wait so wh ydont u like the superlight again?

[swift forge]

I’m a gaming mouse kid so if people have productivity picks feel free to shout them out

[swift forge]

Defective model

And he wants longer battery life

But rechargeable batteries don’t offer his needs

Plus a lot of them save for the Razer Viper Ultimate with a dock charge with cables which he wants eradicated, no cables at all

[latent blaze]

well idk then im also a gaminng mouse guy and only productivity mice have good replaceables imo

[swift forge]

Yea well productivity wireless is all rechargeable nowadays, the good picks

[steady hatch]

I mean doesnt have to be made for gaming

[swift forge]

Sometimes that comes with perks

[latent blaze]

ie >250hz

[swift forge]

Like the Logitech G502, tons of shortcuts which can save me time in Photoshop

[swift forge]

He set it to 250hz because of the “poor” battery life :p

[latent blaze]

oh

[steady hatch]

500hz would be decent

[latent blaze]

I mean how long of a battery life are you talkin

[swift forge]

So I have a few picks here - Razer Basilisk V3/Deathadder V2 X, Logitech G305

[latent blaze]

I had a deathadder for a while

[steady hatch]

Charge once and forget for a long time

[swift forge]

Those are disposable battery powered and offer 200+ hours of battery life

[latent blaze]

Solid mouse

[spark hatch]

like logitech mx or smthn?

[swift forge]

Roughly 20 days if you game 10 hours a day, productivity which doesn’t require such intense tracking probably a year or 3 months or smth

[steady hatch]

Yeah I guess

[swift forge]

But since it’s a gaming mouse, likely months

Still longer than most rechargeables

[spark hatch]

how long does the superlight last with rgb off?

[swift forge]

It has no RGB

But mine lasted me 6 weeks on the first charge cycle

So around two months

Second charge cycle either faring worse or the software is crappy at telling me accurate battery life readings

[spark hatch]

oops, ;-; ok well I dont look at mice often

[swift forge]

Np the casual kid easily mistakes it for the G Pro Wireless which does have RGB and hotswap side buttons for left/right handed gamers

And suitability for both competitive MOBA/MMO or FPS gaming

[spark hatch]

personally just disable software, save the profile I want then disable ghub till Ineed it next

[swift forge]

I need the battery readings

[spark hatch]

time it

[swift forge]

They aren’t onboard

[latent blaze]

yeah but do they really work?

[spark hatch]

say every week plug it in

[swift forge]

It’s different every charge cycle

[swift forge]

Yea they do

[spark hatch]

the superlight doenst have on board

lmao

[swift forge]

Not completely off the charts and the battery is lost s reasonable amount daily

[swift forge]

It has memory, but not battery readings

[spark hatch]

OH I see

[swift forge]

The G Pro Wireless has onboard battery readings though

If you observe the marketing images, those three dots behind the click panels are battery indicators

[spark hatch]

not in really in my experience

[swift forge]

All are green between 70-100 percent, yellow in two buttons and one disabled 30-69 and red on one indicator 1-29 percent

Have a laugh if you want

[swift forge]

manufacturing process can differ each individual model from another

second week

[spark hatch]

mhm

im jsut saying you can time it. like I usually would jsut charge every week

[swift forge]

Not something I'd do, am prevent memory effect

but I'll do it every 4 weeks or smth, yea without the software

though I do like G HUB tbh, using it to program commands for Krunker

which are usually letters that I've memorised the functions for

[swift forge]

Typing on linears

[spark hatch]

hm?

[swift forge]

You'll figure it out soon

[latent blaze]

Speaking of typing anyone use gazzew boba u4 switches before

i got a switch tester with them and i like them but dont know how theyll feel in a full keeb

[unkempt dome]

G305 have disposable battery ... more than a year of use with the original one ... you can use aaa lithium with adapter for lighter weight... it's kind of bottom heavy with the stock battery

Also razer orochi v2 has disposable battery too

[unkempt dome]

That's what I did too when using the g305 ... also the led on it tells you when the battery is low ... but it's quite small and hard to notice

[spark hatch]

yea

[unkempt dome]

Supposed to feel amazing from what I read from all people that had them

[spark hatch]

off topic, have any of you used wasd custom keycaps? or heard anything whether their quility is alr?

[unkempt dome]

Never had them sorry

[spark hatch]

I dont think they're too big

https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/104-key-custom-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html

[unkempt dome]

I either have akko or some random keycaps I find on amazon ... the fecker set I have is nice

[spark hatch]

yea I'd get akko but im not a fan of their profile options and the sets that do come in cherry dont look too apealing to me

[unkempt dome]

UV coated abs ...

[latent blaze]

didnt even see that

[unkempt dome]

They have low asa profile too

[spark hatch]

yea

[unkempt dome]

They look like dsa or xda

Kinda in between

[spark hatch]

abs is fine with me honestly, not thilled its not double shot but eh

[cosmic glen]

whats a good keyboard under $100?

[latent blaze]

what size do you want

also do you want rgb and also if you know what switch type you like that would help but dw if u dont

[spark hatch]

anything from these companies will suit you well: leopold, Keychron, durgod, varmillo, akko and royal kludge (on the lower end but still decent)

[cosmic glen]

60%

[cosmic glen]

rgb recommended if not ok

[swift forge]

Orochi is 💩 compared to G305 ngl

but yea, I was saying the Superlight has an insufficient battery indicator, its only either green or red

[latent blaze]

ducky one mini is decent i think

[cosmic glen]

i like the name lol

[latent blaze]

can also check out keychron tho idk whether their 60% is under 100

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/60-layout-keyboards/products/keychron-k12-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39299048243289

[latent blaze]

g pro switches tho...

[cosmic glen]

looks sick

[latent blaze]

K12 is good though i would get the hotswappable version so you can change switches later on

[spark hatch]

and? most people arent gonna care

[latent blaze]

u right u right

[cosmic glen]

whats the difference

[latent blaze]

blues are the only ones in stock tho i think

[spark hatch]

also this granted its a 65% but its not that muhc bigger https://akkogear.de/collections/keyboards/products/black-pink-3068b?_pos=25&_fid=f3330d479&_ss=c&variant=42423458824437

[cosmic glen]

tf is keyboard lube

[spark hatch]

ibo I'd go for the aluminum model

[latent blaze]

oh i was looking at rgb backlight not alum frame my b

[spark hatch]

welcome to mechanical keyboards

[cosmic glen]

😂

keyboard lube AHAHHA

you have to jerk your keyboard to get it goin?

[spark hatch]

you put lube in the switchs and stabilaizers to make it feel and sound nicer basically

[cosmic glen]

lmao

[spark hatch]

lmao

ofc yea

[latent blaze]

yup

[cosmic glen]

😂

[swift forge]

what if the cable it connects via is female

[latent blaze]

smooths out the feel

[cosmic glen]

Its a german website

[swift forge]

there are different terms for different genders

[latent blaze]

akko is internatl

[cosmic glen]

stick it in then

[latent blaze]

i think

[spark hatch]

just change it at the top left to english

[swift forge]

[latent blaze]

yea

[cosmic glen]

that would be the right

[spark hatch]

oops

[cosmic glen]

wtf is this

long night huh?

[latent blaze]

ergo layout

supposed to be better for your wrists and stuff

[spark hatch]

ergo layout

[spark hatch]

mhm

[swift forge]

I'd like to play FPS and MMO on that and see if it induces more wrist strain or actually relieves it

[cosmic glen]

https://akkogear.de/collections/keyboards/products/neon-3061-rgb-bt-5-0?variant=42678498033909

is this keyboard good?

[latent blaze]

akko is usually pretty solid

good budget stuff

[swift forge]

From 深圳 in China eh

[spark hatch]

its a solid baord

[spark hatch]

what?

[swift forge]

its how you write "Shenzhen" in proper characters, saw it mentioned in the description

[spark hatch]

ah

[swift forge]

though simplified chinese, I'm not Taiwanese

[cosmic glen]

https://www.amazon.com/Snpurdiri-Keyboard-Ultra-Compact-Waterproof-Black-White/dp/B091K14G9B/ref=sr_1_4?crid=O4P40IG88HZO&keywords=gaming%2Bkeyboard&qid=1651094238&sprefix=gaming%2Bkeyboard%2Caps%2C79&sr=8-4&th=1

[spark hatch]

well akko still makes very sold boards

[cosmic glen]

this keyboard is $30

is it good?

lol

[spark hatch]

meh

not really

[cosmic glen]

what makes a good keyboard

like whats the differences

[swift forge]

modern USB-C wired connection, hotswap, reliable switches known for reliability, white backlighting or optional RGB, incline settings, ability to be customised

thats my input on this at least :p

[cosmic glen]

...

[latent blaze]

also keycaps that dont suck

[cosmic glen]

and how much of this matters to your gameplay?

[swift forge]

and a format thats useable, not something like 1800 which is all the keys mashed next to each other

[latent blaze]

dye sub or doubleshot abs/pbt

[swift forge]

and no clear distinct spacing between each type of key, i.e. letters and punctuation, function keys

[latent blaze]

also a profile you like

[swift forge]

basically up-to-date and not handicapping

[spark hatch]

not really anyhting you can use basically any keybnaord ever for gaming

[steady hatch]

I ordered 4 mice

[swift forge]

like if a keyboard requires a micro-USB wired connection, where am I to find a replacement which is a suitable length and individually selling

[steady hatch]

303, mx vertical, model D wireless

[swift forge]

the Logitech G303?

[steady hatch]

and Rocat air

[swift forge]

[steady hatch]

Yeah shroud editon

[swift forge]

[steady hatch]

its USB C

[swift forge]

have fun palm gripping that

its meant for claw grip

[steady hatch]

I do claw grip

[swift forge]

the scroll wheel is completely smooth too, but at least it has a good battery indicator

[steady hatch]

if not ill return it

[swift forge]

which is larger than a dot

but yea USB-C charging is nice

[steady hatch]

going to arrive today

[latent blaze]

as long as the charging isnt on the bottom of the mouse im fine with it

[cosmic glen]

all akko keyboards are mostly sold out is there any company that is similar to them?

[steady hatch]

Get a keychron

[latent blaze]

welcome to mechanical keyboards

[cosmic glen]

lmao

[latent blaze]

keychron is good ye

[steady hatch]

Got a Q1

[latent blaze]

ducky one 2 mini is also solid enough if u dont like it

[steady hatch]

And im selling it

[spark hatch]

I like that mouse

[steady hatch]

custom keyboards are overrated

[spark hatch]

ok

[latent blaze]

blasphemy

[spark hatch]

its a hobby

[swift forge]

G303 Shroud Edition: Claw-grip, smooth scroll wheel with no texture, USB-C charging, chonk body, with "Logitech x Shroud" printed on the top of the body
MX vertical: no comment
D wireless - pog for drag clicking, USB-C charging, you can adjust debounce time in Glorious' software, right hand ergo-slanted
Roccat Kone Pro Air - Scroll wheel some people dislike being quite frictional, cool RGB coming from underneath left and right click, clunky software, sensor accuracy problems

[spark hatch]

theres not really a huge gain to it

[swift forge]

in RTINGS test model, sensor undershot the set DPI by 26%

its only a problem for some people though

not all models have that

[spark hatch]

model d for drag clicking 🤢

[swift forge]

yea ok its slanted which makes sense

but it has similar settings to an O

so you can take down the debounce time for drag

[steady hatch]

So the 303 is trash ?

[cosmic glen]

what does hot swappable mean

[swift forge]

best out of all the others really

since you're claw

[spark hatch]

its inconsistant, half the bumper is comb, slanted, only goes down to 2ms debounce

[swift forge]

if it was palm, definite no

[cosmic glen]

On the keychron website^^^

[latent blaze]

it means you can change out the switches

[swift forge]

You can change out the switches built in, for your own ones

[cosmic glen]

na not doin tht

[latent blaze]

without desoldering

[spark hatch]

oh sorry, it mean the switches can easily be takin in and out without needing a soldering iron/taking the whole board apart

[spark hatch]

if a switch dies it makes it much easier to change

[steady hatch]

Im just looking for a comfortable mouse for palm

[cosmic glen]

switches die

how tf

[steady hatch]

I do like a claw palm grip

[swift forge]

Didn't you say you claw gripped

[cosmic glen]

its a fuckin cube

[spark hatch]

yea? ofc they do

nothing lasts for ever

[swift forge]

oh ok then the 303 should be alr

[cosmic glen]

does it run out of battery

[steady hatch]

its like a in between

[cosmic glen]

or sum shit

[latent blaze]

bruh

nah they just die sometimes

[spark hatch]

what? no, its a mechanical swithc over time the metal mechinism will get worn out

[swift forge]

I get you, the G303 will force you into a proper claw

[latent blaze]

not often tho

[cosmic glen]

about how long does that take?

[spark hatch]

no

[swift forge]

but it won't feel uncomfortable

[swift forge]

like 5 years or more

[steady hatch]

I just want USB C tbh

[swift forge]

if its that reliable

[cosmic glen]

nvm

[steady hatch]

really helps

[cosmic glen]

i wont be having it for 5 years or more

lol

[swift forge]

G303 is USB-C

pretty much all your picks are USB-C

[cosmic glen]

does anyone know any good budget mice?

[spark hatch]

acouple years, ive been into custom keyboards for 3 years now and never had a switch die knocks on wood

[latent blaze]

i might check out one of the razer mice pyro recommended bigboi

[cosmic glen]

ok

[spark hatch]

like, logitech g305 maybe

[latent blaze]

glorious model I is solid

[cosmic glen]

ok

ill check em all out

ill tell yall what i think is coolest

[latent blaze]

logitech g502 hero or whatever the newest version is called is always decent

[steady hatch]

What are some other USB C mice ?

[cosmic glen]

what is better? wired or wireless mice?

[steady hatch]

same level

[spark hatch]

doesnt really matter at this moint aslong as its not some cheap office mouse

[cosmic glen]

lol

[swift forge]

Lightspeed is the wireless equiv

but its pretty expensive, around the same price as a GPX

[swift forge]

👍

[latent blaze]

up to whether u want to deal with a cable or charging it

[steady hatch]

Razer DeathAdder V2 Pro - Wireless ?

[cosmic glen]

do yall know any good mouse pads under $30?

[swift forge]

Hmmm yes it is

[steady hatch]

is it any good ?

[swift forge]

Viper Ultimate better though

[swift forge]

I remember it has quite a big flaw but gotta check

[spark hatch]

idk just go on like amazon

[cosmic glen]

lol

bet

[spark hatch]

novel keys has nice ones but they're shipping will get you

kenetic labs has some nice ones

lttstore.com has some more expensive ones

[swift forge]

It’s micro-USB charging, and has a high lift-off distance

[latent blaze]

LTTSTORE.COM

[swift forge]

I.e the cursor will stutter on screen noticeably when you life to reposition ur mouse

[steady hatch]

Dam it not much USB C mice

[latent blaze]

Northern lights desk pad in any size you could ask for 30$

[swift forge]

A lot actually are USB-C but there are old picks still stuck with micro-USB

and some gaming mice don’t live up to their name

[spark hatch]

I thouhght they were more?

[steady hatch]

What are some I should look at ?

[latent blaze]

nope the low lwo price of 30$

honestly a steaal

[swift forge]

I recommend you just order the mx vertical for office work and Viper Ultimate

The Viper has a dedicated charging dock

[spark hatch]

huh could have swore they were more

[steady hatch]

Dont wanna buy 2

[swift forge]

You just ordered 4

[steady hatch]

But I will keep one

[swift forge]

in that case go for the Viper Ultimate

It’s got buttons on both sides of the mouse

[cosmic glen]

who has a good table ?

[swift forge]

So plenty of macros already without looking like a G502

and you can assign a Hypershift layer for a total of 18 programmable inputs

[spark hatch]

are you rebuilding you whole ssetup or smthn lmao

[swift forge]

Including reprogramming left and right click

[latent blaze]

idk bro just look up like top 10 tables

id say ikea but their shit keeps falling apart on me lmao

[cosmic glen]

yes

i dont have a set up

im making one

[spark hatch]

2 alex doors and a big slab of wood

[latent blaze]

nice

[spark hatch]

ah, nice nice

[cosmic glen]

i need bigger monitors so i can yk what to....

[swift forge]

Oh great what agony

[cosmic glen]

😂

[spark hatch]

get the keyboard working ofc

[swift forge]

The Viper Ultimate is micro-USB

[cosmic glen]

i had to find myself a waterproof keyboard

[steady hatch]

Yeah

[spark hatch]

doesnt it have a dock?

[steady hatch]

pain and suffering

[swift forge]

Yea that too

Better

[spark hatch]

that it sits ontop of

yueaaaa

[swift forge]

There are versions which sell without the dock, and with it

[latent blaze]

make sure you have a good chair btw

very underated part of setup

[spark hatch]

I'd use the viper ult in a heat beat if it had double clicking and didnt have the side bottons on both sides, its so nice

[swift forge]

@steady hatch buy the one with the dock and you won’t have cable problems when charging

[cosmic glen]

got any suggestions

[latent blaze]

secretlab

[cosmic glen]

ok

[spark hatch]

you're telling me sitting on a 100$ staples "gaming" chair

[cosmic glen]

b*tch im tryna find a chair not a car wtf

[latent blaze]

you just called me out so hard

[cosmic glen]

this is like $600

[latent blaze]

ur looking at the most expensive one

[cosmic glen]

oh

[steady hatch]

Any reviews of the Razer pro click ?

[cosmic glen]

well wheres the clearance section?

[latent blaze]

https://secretlabus.myshopify.com/collections/all?type=chair put in ur height and weight then sort by low

[spark hatch]

I'd personally jsut get a nicer office chair. but I've never used a seceret lab and really hate it when companies spit their logo everywere so I could be wrong/bias

[latent blaze]

theres a tab that says shop by in sale

[swift forge]

@steady hatch https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/3d-model-shape-compare/razer-viper-ultimate?

[cosmic glen]

it doesn't have 7 foot on there

[latent blaze]

i agree with this but its hard to tell whats a nice office chair sometimes

[spark hatch]

true

[cosmic glen]

lol

[spark hatch]

well, could go to a big box store and just try em

[latent blaze]

tru but also feeling from sitting for hours is where it really matters

[cosmic glen]

how you gonna put me in the "clearance" section and theyre still $580

[spark hatch]

fair

[cosmic glen]

i have yet seen a below 500 😂😂😂

[spark hatch]

my biggest mistake with my chair was leather, it wouldnt bother me if it wasnt leather

[latent blaze]

if ur actually 7' then ur gonna need a expensive chair to not die of back pain

lmao

[cosmic glen]

im 6'2

i put 4'11 and they still $500 wtf

[latent blaze]

just try some chairs at office max or staples

[cosmic glen]

im better off buying pewds 399 chair

[latent blaze]

get one that has a mesh back and lumbar support

[cosmic glen]

^facts im just gonna go to dollar tree

[latent blaze]

if u want cheaper ones

[vale mist]

^

[spark hatch]

get a mesh chair. trust me on ethat one

[vale mist]

used herman miller chairs are cheap many offices throw them out

[latent blaze]

where

[cosmic glen]

https://www.amazon.com/Ergonomic-Computer-Office-Midback-Chair/dp/B0147WIC7E/ref=pd_day0fbt_sccl_2/146-5764685-2165940?pd_rd_w=ZtsQy&pf_rd_p=bcb8482a-3db5-4b0b-9f15-b86e24acdb00&pf_rd_r=Q61KY85SGRDJWJNXBGBG&pd_rd_r=2f5a908c-743d-4bd8-8b62-39d760797b29&pd_rd_wg=57NPO&pd_rd_i=B0147WIC7E&th=1

this chair?

[cosmic glen]

OYYY these look niceee

youre righttt

[latent blaze]

has absolute jack for lumbar

if u can score a hjerman miller those are top of the line

[cosmic glen]

HOLKTSFDiogyRhwefgr

theyre 1.5k

thats more than my PC lmaoo

[latent blaze]

hence why he said used

[cosmic glen]

fuck that

https://store.hermanmiller.com/outdoor-furniture-chairs/magis-spun-chair/9540.html?lang=en_US

$800!??!?!?!?!?!

i can 3d print that shit

[vale mist]

used they can be had for pretty cheap

[cosmic glen]

looks fuckin 3d printed

[vale mist]

they're as top a line chair as you can get

[cosmic glen]

lmao i need an office to throw one out for me

hope offices start using gaming chairs

[cosmic glen]

im sticking with this

idgaf about lumbar i dont even know what that shit is

$40 is $40

[latent blaze]

no thats gonna break ur back

[cosmic glen]

huh

like my gf?

[latent blaze]

at least look up top 5 chairs under 100$

[cosmic glen]

lmao

imma just sit on a box

[swift forge]

Herman Miller is a premium company, like Whittakers chocolate in NZ

$20 USD for a slab around $50 NZD

[cosmic glen]

........

for a slab of chocolate

i actually looked it up thinking u were talking about a slab of wood

bc if u was talkin about a slab of wood i wouldve bought that shi an used it for my desk bc thats a killer ass price for wood

😂

[chilly perch]

My brother bought a $1050 xchair

[cosmic glen]

couldve gotten a decent pc with that

[unkempt dome]

I have a 800$ tempurpedic chair that my mother gave me ... it gets really hot during summer time sadly

But it's really great besides that ... tons of adjustments points to adapt it to the way you're made and sit ... not the other way around

Also my desk must be good ... it's like 20 years old

South shore is the brand ... not even sure it still exist now

[strange sand]

bruh

i use a 60 dollar walmart one and its hella ergonomic

[chilly perch]

He already got a decent pc 💀

Well its outdated now its a 2070 8th gen i5 i think but he doesn't play games he is a statistics analysis guy

[spark hatch]

how do you know? have you ever used an ergo chair?

[strange sand]

guy 2070 ahnd 8th gen aint outdated

[strange sand]

it feels good to cit in

[spark hatch]

thats a pretty poor representation but ok

[strange sand]

like it has a built in mesh lumbar

[unkempt dome]

That's miles from all the adjustments an ergonomic chair has tho

Really tempted to get zy's rail wireless ...

[strange sand]

Damn what kind of udjestments

[tardy tundra]

I'm thinking about getting linear mx reds or should i not and get a controller instead?

[crimson isle]

Their Embody is currently at the top of my list for "likely to get" just because finding an ergonomic chair for both my height and size is near impossible, lel

[spark hatch]

tahts quite unfortunate

[crimson isle]

193cm height, majority of products end proper support at 175-185cm, and when you find those for my height, they are made for very wide people, resulting in things like shoulder support being just, next to my actual shoulder shoving uncomfortably their edge into it, they seem to expect body builders or very very "large" people usually with standard width vs height

[spark hatch]

yikes

[crimson isle]

imagine your wallet, when your size doesn't exist for anything, chairs, clothing, etc
so even a single pair of proper pants costs 300+, height of 193cm with the width comparable to average 165cm tall person

welp, ordered 1100 worth of custom keyboard components

[spark hatch]

ik how you feel, for shirts I have very long arms its very rare for me to find any shirt thats arms are actually long enough without the wrest of the shirt being absolutly huge

[spark hatch]

lmao, what'd you get?

[crimson isle]

I've got long arms in comparison because my spine lost 6-7 cm of height, but meh

hands reach my knees

[crimson isle]

I saw something that looked nice and ordered it, it was for once not a basic slab sold for 5-10x its value

I ain't paying 300-800$ for a basic slab

[spark hatch]

ah fair enough lol

[crimson isle]

When I see keycult, I see basic razer keyboard worth 50$

it looks about the exact same, just better material

its like Ikea, but another company makes it out of better quality, about the same appearance, but asks 20x the price

[spark hatch]

right

tahts fair ig

[crimson isle]

so I pretty much only get keyboards with nice design or alternative layouts

[spark hatch]

fair enough

but to be fair to companies its kinda hard to innovate with keyboards too much, general public just want black/white sleak/clean builds

[crimson isle]

I mean, it isn't too hard, they can easily add some shapes, patterns, etc

something other than a single colored slab priced 200-1000

[spark hatch]

fair enough, but the more complex the patterns get the less people its going to apeal to, while a solid color is more likely to apeal to a much larger audience

[crimson isle]

because somehow this was 500$

it just looks like a TKL from razer

[spark hatch]

I do agree it would be niec to see some more out there boards tho

eh ig

it does look alot higher quility

[crimson isle]

ofc higher qualit y

tho it isn't exactly much different in appearance

feel gonna be obvs

[spark hatch]

yea I see you're point

[crimson isle]

but that's comparing the usual trash quality rattle toys to now actually custom made and allowing you to choose yourself

[spark hatch]

yea yea

[spark hatch]

question for ya'll, would anyone happen to know smthn close to this?

[unkempt dome]

armrest hight, width, front and back, back up and down, forward and backward, seat forward and backward, tilt and some more I forget ... also that's just my chair, other ergo chair might have more adjustments

[slate lagoon]

That would be a great layout

[slate lagoon]

I think that all keyboards just look like keyboards. But regardless of what it looks like. Its definitely all about how it feels.

[crimson isle]

"keyboards just look like keyboards"
ofc, they are boards with keycaps on them
but that can be any design and shape they want, and they decide to ask 500$ for a standard slab, that's just too much
if it was only about how it feels, people wouldn't be spending more than like 50$ on a keyboard case, lel

[vale mist]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keycaps/products/epbt-black-white-abs-doubleshot-keycaps-set

opposite colors, this is the only thing I can kinda think of

[crimson isle]

I mean

[latent blaze]

https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-black-white-keysets-two-shot/

[slate lagoon]

That's my point though.. There's pretty much only 1 keyboard design. Then a few more with keys removed and more compact. They all look like slabs. The only thing that changes is the style of the keycaps the switches and the internals. Which is what you're paying the difference for. Nobody really looks at a keyboard and goes "wow that's amazing".. but once you type on a keyboard for the first time you can say "wow that's amazing"

[crimson isle]

keycaps, switches, and 99% of the internals, are not what you pay for

because they aren't even delivered with them

and I don't think you know people don't just buy their keyboard purely for the feel, otherwise the whole market would be the exact same everything, no paint, no nothing, just bare PCB, bare everything

people wouldn't even get into custom keyboards if that were the case (other than the rich few who just think "might as well just go overboard and get custom", lel)

[daring swallow]

those arrow keys look really nice

[ionic briar]

in your opinion, the "different mounting styles" thing is just fluff?

[crimson isle]

nope

saying "all people care for is feel" is just wrong "nobody really looks at a keyboard and thinks wow amazing, but once they type they do"
ever seen the average person starting to get into anything?..
majority would, even if they get to touch it (something they can't, as they can't be tried before actually buying and waiting), think just like with audio "it is better, but for that price, no.. it's also way to big and ugly"

tho there obviously are those who are like that, just like with anything who purely want functional like minimalists, even if technically appearance is still the reason behind it, like less cluttered
(tho, many of those are also just flexing, like getting keycult just because expensive)

[crimson isle]

not saying physics don't exist

[bitter oar]

https://www.amazon.com/Koi-Co-Koi61-Swappable-Keyboard/dp/B09RSSR554/ref=sr_1_60?crid=1ZUL6EFJSMA52&keywords=Hot+swap&qid=1651325511&sprefix=hot+swap%2Caps%2C154&sr=8-60#customerReviews

Is this good?

[strange sand]

Holy that's a lot

[spark hatch]

Close enough, tyty

[median fern]

I like the embody but ended up going for the Aeron because I like a stiff lumbar support

The embody is a great chair either way

Posture fit SL is a godsend

[median fern]

That sounds like a updated Aeron ngl

[crimson isle]

I would've maybe thought about aeron if it wasn't built for a body builder width wise

size scales both ways on them, need it taller, not wider
but that's not an option for the aeron

embody seems like the best option, just because it doesn't even have them, the shoulder "support"

[steady hatch]

Dont get this

[spark hatch]

wasnt plannin gon it

[steady hatch]

oh KBDfans has trash moulds

[spark hatch]

mhm, I've heard that

[steady hatch]

like so trash that every letter if another size

[spark hatch]

yikes

[steady hatch]

guess how I found out

They wanted be to pay for shipping which is like 70% of the keycaps value

But I did get a 20 USD discount

[spark hatch]

ah

[vale mist]

it's a epbt set though I doubt kbdfans is actually the one manufacturing it, only distributing it

[spark hatch]

idk where to fine keycaps, Ive seen lots of designs, know lots of places to get them. but i cant seem to find a design that really looks nice to me. I've been thinking of getting a set off wasd keyboards but idk, everyone I've asked has said they're fine but not great and idk if I wanna spend 100$ for a fine but not great keycap set

[spark hatch]

thats true

[vale mist]

There's a gmk set that is in that same black and white colorway which I was looking at too but it was a group buy so yea

I have also seen people combine sets but that's quite expensive, this is the only set that you could really do that easily with

https://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Minimalist-Suitable-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B09SZ6J46H/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=9ISK8&pf_rd_p=bbb6bbd8-d236-47cb-b42f-734cb0cacc1f&pf_rd_r=R7GVG129N40NA539QV9W&pd_rd_r=9c917db8-d371-4ea4-a521-49caad020606&pd_rd_wg=NPwfw&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mi&th=1

[scarlet walrus]

Are 60% keyboards good for gaming that requires a function row but not rly numbers?

[vale mist]

all 👏 use 👏 case

[scarlet walrus]

Namely Minecraft, where I don’t need the numbers cause I can scroll through my hotbar but function row is really important

[vale mist]

for minecraft all you'd have to do is to hold fn and press the number that associated with the f key you want

[scarlet walrus]

Ok

Is there a way to inverse that?

So it does F by default

And then hit Fn to enter a number

[vale mist]

no, unless if there's a option in via to do that and you'd need a qmk supported keyboard for that

[scarlet walrus]

Ok so that depends on model and brand

Tbh I’ve never needed a numpad but a function row is useful so it’d probs be TKL for me

[spark hatch]

yea idk

[vale mist]

https://kono.store/products/gmk-monochrome

really beautiful

[spark hatch]

get waht ever tooks like enough keys for your use case

[scarlet walrus]

Alright thx

Probs a keychron K3 or something

[spark hatch]

oh yea I've looked at monochrome before

[scarlet walrus]

Wireless and TKL with tactile and RGB

[vale mist]

some people like to combine the drop gmk sets to get the same effect

[spark hatch]

hmm, maybe

[vale mist]

ig it's better than getting insane prices on mechmarket

[spark hatch]

yea ig

[vale mist]

ryzen what's some good plate mount stabs?

I've been looking at durock but I can't find any shops that sell a plate version

[spark hatch]

uhm, never really looked at plate mount stabs, doesnt durok also make plate mount tho?

[vale mist]

I'm sure they do but I can't find them on any marketplace

are the "zug gear" ones the same thing?

[spark hatch]

it looks like maybe zug gear is just distributing them?

[steady hatch]

Heard that zug gear distributes durocks on many servers

[spark hatch]

ah i see

[bitter oar]

Can someone recommend me, fully 5/3 pin hot-swap keyboard. Wired, and under $100 (lower price the better.)

[spark hatch]

Keychron

Akko

Durgod

Leopold

Some royal kludge

[steady hatch]

What keyboard should I get ?

TKL

[spark hatch]

What ever meets your needs

[steady hatch]

I liked the durgod one but the spring ping on the mx browns was soo annoying

[spark hatch]

If you care about acoustics that much get third party switches

[steady hatch]

Might do

Might down grade to a K8 keychron

[bitter oar]

Is redragon k631 or koi co 61 good?

rather the koi co 61

Foam under the pcb.

[spark hatch]

I wouldn't get a red dragon

[bitter oar]

What about koi co 61

[chilly perch]

Why would you just leave gaps for the windows key and fn or whatever and not just include the keys

[steady hatch]

anyone get a MX master 3 ?

When you change the scroll mode does it make a sound when you do it. As in the wheel itself ?

[unkempt dome]

Any thought about the zy's rail ?

[spark hatch]

It's light

I think hardware Canucks did a thing on it and they liked it

[peak spade]

does anyone know anything about the feker ik75?

[lilac salmon]

what about it

[peak spade]

i have constant rgb rainbow ring going around my keyboard, and no matter what setting i chnage in the software it doesnt go away @lilac salmon

very annoying...

[lilac salmon]

hold down FN and ESC for 5 seconds

it will reset ur keyboard i believe

[latent blaze]

its fine but pretty bad for the price

[vale mist]

all the mx masters do

I own the 2s and original both of them make a audible click when switching

[crimson isle]

the 3 is less noticeable tho

ALOT less

owned all three, 3 is least noticeable
you feel it, but not really hear

[crimson isle]

as someone who owns it, barely
I hear it at night with nothing else making sound ig

one of the two major changes between 2s to 3, smooth "magnet" scroll wheel and shape
still doesn't last at all tho physically, as most of the shell is just rubber glued onto plastic slowly peeling off the more you rub on it, especially next to the right mouse button (as well as stain it, especially on the lighter color)

[steady hatch]

Yeah the one I got is kinda trash since it double clicks and the buttons arent at the same height

I think that the scroll wheel is kinda broken coz it doesnt roll straight

I am now looking for a new Mouse again

[vale mist]

both my 2s and original have yet to start double click, I do feel like the build quality has decreased tho, my original does feel a bit better and the button clicks are less hollow compared to the 2s

[steady hatch]

What are some top mice to buy ?

GPSL. GPW

The Aerox 3 wireless any good ?

[vale mist]

ew honeycomb

[steady hatch]

So what do you recommend ?

[vale mist]

what are you using the mouse for first of all

[steady hatch]

work

and a lil gaming

[vale mist]

what kind of games and what kind of work

[steady hatch]

CSGO

mainly fps and esports titles

[vale mist]

does weight matter at all to you

[steady hatch]

I had a G Pro wireless

wasnt too bad

I was thinking G pro superlight

[unkempt dome]

imo shape and comfort is more important than anything for a mouse

[steady hatch]

but idk too many mixed reviews

GPW shape is ok for me

[unkempt dome]

find the kind of shape that works well for you and then check the option for that shape

[vale mist]

if you want something more ergonomic get either a Basilisk or G502, logitech for many people have issues with double clicking I'm not too sure about razer, from my personal experience I have yet to get a double clicking logitech mouse, out of my 2 mx masters and g703

the g604 is also a good option

[steady hatch]

The Mx master 3 I got now has double clicking and a crooked wheel

I have had 2 GPW and they have both failed

[unkempt dome]

if you want to avoid double clicking then get something with kailh switches or optical switches

omron in logitech, specially the 50M click, have a tendency to double click more than in other mouse maker ... something about the voltage logitech use

[vale mist]

Stay away from corsair at all costs, all they sell is cheap trash

[steady hatch]

So which mice would you say are worth the money ?

Might try the GPWS

but idk if its worth the mark up

its less material for more money

[vale mist]

Razer has some nice profiles, I haven't had a razer mouse since my old deathadder pro so I can't say anything towards their longevity but their mice are top notch

[unkempt dome]

for me the most comfortable I found so far is the cooler master mm710 ... that shape is close to perfect ...
xtrfy m42 is also really nice
logitech g305 has a really easy to like shape

[vale mist]

I'm a Mx master fanboy so I'd take that almost always, I can't live without my horizontal scroll and gestures

and infinite scroll

logitech is kinda luck based tho

[steady hatch]

Does your mx master sometimes not scroll ?

like I will be using the regular scroll and it will go the opposite way

[vale mist]

nah works perfectly fine, I've had my original since 2017 and my 2s since 2021

[steady hatch]

hmm weird

[vale mist]

only issue I've had is with the 2s wheel going a slight bit over when switching modes, and the gesture button not being the most high quality, it creaks a bit

my original doesn't have those issues at all

[steady hatch]

Is the MM710 worth the money you think ?

its like 60GBP

[vale mist]

personally I'm not a fan of honeycomb at all

[steady hatch]

MM731 Wireless

I looked at this one from cooler master looks ok but seems kinda poorly built

[vale mist]

The shape on it does look far better

[steady hatch]

Honestly all these options are overwhelming

[vale mist]

The razer basilisk would be my recommendation, it uses optical switches so it shouldn't have double clicking issues

it's more on the ergonomic side

[steady hatch]

Is honeycomb bad ?

[vale mist]

it's bad if you hate the texture

it's not going to be smooth like a regular mouse

[steady hatch]

I see

[vale mist]

the weight imo is negligible

The basilisk also comes with a dock

[steady hatch]

What about the viper ultimate ?

Im looking for something wireless, good battery life and not too expensive

[vale mist]

it's not going to be as comfortable since it's a ambidextrous mouse I can tell you that much

[steady hatch]

these are my choices

[vale mist]

thinking about trying the mx master again?

is it not under warranty?

[steady hatch]

Im sending it back

same with my G Pro Wireless

2nd time I got a faulty G Pro same for the MX master

[glad lake]

I’d go with the glorious model o wireless

[steady hatch]

Cant find one for a decent price

they are asking like 50 more when it costs like 80

[vale mist]

model o is also honeycomb

[steady hatch]

There are many good ones

Or new ones

wish there was a new MX master

[vale mist]

I'd recommend the viper

unless if you want to try the mx master again

[steady hatch]

would be my 3rd MX master within 3 months :)

[unkempt dome]

yes totally

[vale mist]

could always try one of the older models if you don't mind micro usb

[steady hatch]

There arent many good USB C mice tbh

[vale mist]

the master will also have by far the best battery out of all the gaming mice too

just the sacrifice you make with gaming mice

[viscid jungle]

Yo what's the best silent and light typing switch, cus I need it silent for exams and light cus I have a broken hand

[steady hatch]

Mx red

[unkempt dome]

there's no best

[viscid jungle]

Mx red too loud

[unkempt dome]

also mx red are not silent as in silenced switches ... they just don't have click jacket that makes noise

[steady hatch]

There are silent switches

[viscid jungle]

I have gateron CJs but they're too loud and heavy for my hand

[steady hatch]

Apple keyboard ez

[unkempt dome]

bobagum

[viscid jungle]

Bobagum possible

[unkempt dome]

kailh silent box pink

[viscid jungle]

Oh a but heavy

I need a light switch

Like under 50g

[unkempt dome]

why you need light ... to activate key unwillingly ?

[steady hatch]

He has a broken hand or sm

[unkempt dome]

damn that suck

lightest would probably be cherry silent red

[viscid jungle]

Yeah hand kill

[latent blaze]

Gateeron clears

lightest switch

[spark hatch]

But those aren't a silent switch

[latent blaze]

oh i ddint see that

my bad

thought they just wanted a light switch

[spark hatch]

light and silent

[unkempt dome]

what are the profile of hyper x pudding keycaps ? ... anyone knows ?

[spark hatch]

I think they might be oem? but not sure

[unkempt dome]

yes I checked and they are oem according to the amazon listing

[latent blaze]

Kailh box silent pink then

[swift forge]

Viper Ult

It has a charging dock so less wires, at least it’ll be less of a handicap when the cable is straight plugged into the dock to power it

[steady hatch]

I ordered the G303

[swift forge]

Oh alr

[steady hatch]

it not ill order the viper

and if I still dont like it ill just get another GPW

[swift forge]

Viper is like the G Pro Wireless, minus the faults

And the buttons are on both sides

But non removeable

Although there are grips

[steady hatch]

Yeah

wish they put USB C in the super light

[strange sand]

isnt the g pro like 200 dollars

[vale mist]

ffs pyro that doesn't make sense

it's gonna be one cable either way

[steady hatch]

The G Pro Wireless is like 75 GBP on amazon and the G Pro Superlight is like 110

[strange sand]

oh

[steady hatch]

Got the G303 to see if I like it

If not ill just stick with the G Pro Wireless

All I want is a nice USB C mouse that is good

cant be hard right ?

[swift forge]

[swift forge]

Yea - but I doubt the cable is gonna be sprawled all over the desk with it connected to a charging dock out of harms way

It is one cable either way, but still

[vale mist]

just move the cable out of the way when not needed, move it to the mouse when it needs to be charged

a dock is more convenient but it shouldn't be a selling point

you shouldnt get a mouse just because it has one

[swift forge]

It’s not primarily for that, more so it’s high end mice that have one

So for the dock, but other factors too

Like if the Microsoft Arc mouse had a dock, the design is shitty enough that it wouldn’t mean a penny

The curve already makes me barf

[swift forge]

For a gaming mouse, sure is, for an office mouse which is crap probably not

[unkempt dome]

Dock is a downside

Looks cool and all until it's not doing it's job anymore

[spark hatch]

it works fine

cables not it the way, docks not in the way, I dont see how thats a down side, Id take that over ubc cable anyday

[unkempt dome]

Cause you pay more for that

And then it breaks and you try to get rid of the mouse with a broken dock

Seen a lot for sale on the used market

[spark hatch]

ah I see

doesnt seem that breakable tbh, but ig people find there ways/things happen

[unkempt dome]

Also everytime you want to charge you put the mouse away on the dock

And if you're in a gaming session what you so then ...

[spark hatch]

ah

I thought it had a front micro usb or usb c

[swift forge]

You can use the micro USB cable

To charge simultaneously whilst playing

It’s paracord anyway so doesn’t get in the way

[unkempt dome]

Then you have a wired mouse

[swift forge]

And? You asked to charge it

[unkempt dome]

The same as most lightweight mouse

[swift forge]

Mhm

[unkempt dome]

Dock doesn't bring anything

[swift forge]

But wireless mice have battery spans which aren’t infinite

[unkempt dome]

Indeed

[swift forge]

Besides

Anyone paranoid enough still knows the battery life is pretty long

And, likely to charge it daily

So it’s extremely unlikely that you need to charge in the middle of a shooting session in CS:GO

[unkempt dome]

Each charge cycle diminishes battery life

Doesn't matter if you plan to throw it away after 2 or 3 years ...

Then it just become e-waste

[swift forge]

Yea

Wireless mice are probably better than that nowadays

Software has battery indicators

[swift forge]

I was talking about the extremely paranoid

[median grove]

Sorry to bother you two in the middle of a conversation; but do you two or anyone else here have any experience/knowledge with the CORSAIR K65 RGB Mini 60&? I'm thinking of getting it but cant find too many reviews on it.

[swift forge]

It has the same battery life rating as the Pro X Superlight which I tested to have at least 4 weeks of battery life

[swift forge]

For one thing, the keyboard kids here aren’t gonna give you any pointers

[unkempt dome]

Lot of people will just put it on the dock when not using the pc

[median grove]

ah alright

[swift forge]

They prefer proper keyboards over gaming

I’ll say a few things though - only linears are installed

[spark hatch]

its bad dont get it

[swift forge]

So no tactile or clicky switches

[median grove]

Any recommendations?

[swift forge]

And you can’t adjust the incline settings

[median grove]

I just want a keyboard which wont internally combust when I do 120wpm on it

[spark hatch]

size and budget?

[median grove]

like my crappy dell membrains

[swift forge]

Always angled at like 4 deg

[spark hatch]

great

[swift forge]

Look at Keychron or Ducky options