peripherals

[analog wyvern]

I think my keyboard is rather easy to bring around outside

Fits in my backpack

This is from yesterday

Managed to bring most of my setup outside

[sly gull]

mmm

sad;y doesn't seem to be the most portable setup

[swift forge]

ASUS TUF Dash F15?

Hmm I mean the switches on the G102 are a bit easier to click than others from logitech's other mice that I've used which might indicate different building material related to decreased durability

its also possible that drag clicking might've caused that

[spark hatch]

logitech make shitty baords

[spark hatch]

why would they drag click?

[swift forge]

This is a mouse ._.

[spark hatch]

oh oops

[swift forge]

I can drag click quite easily on my G102

bought it for 3 months now, still functioning perfectly jitter clicking daily

[spark hatch]

no one drag clicks on logitch mice

[swift forge]

then you're wrong

[spark hatch]

they're one of the worse mouse brands to drag click on

you can only get 12~ cps tops

[swift forge]

the Pro X Superlight literally has grip tape in the packaging

for the click panels and sides

[spark hatch]

its absolute garbage for drag clicking tho

it has a very high debounce time

[swift forge]

well ig it was designed for FPS games, not everyone's gonna be turning semi autos into miniguns

[spark hatch]

logitech mice are not good to drag click on and if anyones dragclicking on therm they desperetly need to get a better drag clicking mouse

theres no advantage to them

[swift forge]

what would you recommend?

[spark hatch]

roccat make really good drag clicking mice

or bloody made okish ones

gloriouos model o/d are okish too

[strange sand]

i lubed my switches bruh it took like 7 hrs

but its wroth it bc now my keybaord sounds good

best 45 dollar keyboard ever

[spark hatch]

nciee

[strange sand]

i can drag click at 20 cps now and godbridge too 🙂

i dominate bed wars

[spark hatch]

rookie numbers

[strange sand]

lol

im not that good

im gonna get better tho

[spark hatch]

I can do 23 short and 40-50 long drag

[strange sand]

holy

nice

what mouse u got

[spark hatch]

roccat kain 100

[strange sand]

oh nice

i have the g203

[spark hatch]

and you can drag on that?

[strange sand]

yeah

[spark hatch]

thats impressive

[strange sand]

yeah i have some grip tape

to drag

[spark hatch]

logitech mice are horrible for drag clicking

[strange sand]

yeah i've heard

[spark hatch]

they ahve a really high debounce time which makes double clicking way ahrder

[strange sand]

yea

[spark hatch]

waht level are you in bw?

[swift forge]

G102, G203, G305 are all easy to drag on quickly

[spark hatch]

ok, they're still bad for drag clicking

I've been doing dragclicking for a long time, ik waht im talking about

[mighty flicker]

what's that?

yeah G102 is dirt cheap

[swift forge]

And to think it used to cater for many esports teams pre-2016

[mighty flicker]

🤣

[crimson isle]

do ergonomic wireless non RGB gaming mouse even exist

[spark hatch]

Uh g305?

[crimson isle]

without weighing like 200grams

[crimson isle]

wrist pain be like:

for some reason, mice that don't have a stupid high latency like the mice I've always used are made for those who won't touch it for longer than 20 minutes (unless they want their wrists destroyed)

[sleek bronze]

https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/mx-ergo-wireless-trackball-mouse.910-005178.html

[swift forge]

Logitech Pro X Superlight, unless you want one below $200 as well

in NZD, which is around $130 USD

[crimson isle]

honestly kind of sad, it is either wrist pain and 99% chance on edgelord appearance, or a 120-200gram ergonomic mouse with like 50-100ms latency

[swift forge]

wth

[sleek bronze]

Just don't use a mouse, easy

[swift forge]

trackpad superior 😎

[sleek bronze]

keyboards superior

[crimson isle]

kind of need the ergonomics with my physical health...

[spark hatch]

Gotta use the keyboard nipple

Common guys

[crimson isle]

kinda been stuck to using the MX master series, lel

as I can actually use it for the amount of time I am at a computer

[swift forge]

well I mean the Superlight basically makes your hand convert into a palm grip easily from the slightly higher than usual hump it has

although its still horizontal

any gaming mouse = design that won't handicap you in doing rapid FPS actions or being able to activate LoL abilities

some ergo mice sacrifice function for, well, ergonomics and aesthetics

[crimson isle]

I would just need one to lower my total latency, as currently it is like 200-500ms total latency and gets pretty annoying

[swift forge]

what keyboard do you have

[crimson isle]

currently a back up until custom replacement comes

[swift forge]

or are you basing this off reaction time tests, because humans aren't instant sir

[crimson isle]

from input to seeing

[sleek bronze]

500ms ???

[swift forge]

how do you measure this?

start a stopwatch with one hand and type a letter simultaneously with the other?

[sleek bronze]

There are tools for that

[swift forge]

then rely on your slower than robotic wits to give an "accurate" result?

[crimson isle]

nah, just a rough estimate to give an idea, because it seems like half a second with how noticeable it is

[swift forge]

I see

[swift forge]

different people perceive the same durations differently

[sleek bronze]

Well half a second is noticeable for everyone

[swift forge]

although if you are using a productivity-based keyboard, sure you will get high latency figures

[crimson isle]

you can write a word or two before you see it, because of all devices total (both keyboard and mouse)

[swift forge]

since there isn't any PCB tech implemented to cut down latency

[swift forge]

happened to me before i got a gaming board with low latency PCB implements

Apple Magic Keyboard

[swift forge]

possibly your monitor's issue

[crimson isle]

most likely part of

[spark hatch]

Idk wtf you guys are on about with this latency shit, I used the apple magic baord for years and couldn't tell the difference when I "upgraded" to the g915

[sleek bronze]

If it's bluetooth I wouldn't be surprised depending on the receiver AND emitter quality and distance

[crimson isle]

TV + wireless cheap keyboard and work/business targeted mouse

[spark hatch]

Unless it's Bluetooth

I can notice latency with that

[sleek bronze]

But yeah I'm in the same boat as Ryzen, latency is imperceptible IF you don't have a problem somewhere in your setup or a 2$ bluetooth keyboard maybe

[swift forge]

you aren't typing fast enough

[spark hatch]

I type at 120 wpm

[swift forge]

when you do, N key rollover and whatnot do become essential

[spark hatch]

Idk if I can go much faster

[crimson isle]

125-150wpm here

[swift forge]

well some people can perceive latency

[sleek bronze]

Well there you probably have your problem, TV input lag is often pretty high

[swift forge]

its hard to, for others

I can see it when I'm gaming, and once I switched from Magic to G815

[sleek bronze]

We already talked about that, 1ms latency is imperceptible for every human on earth

[crimson isle]

still using living room setup from having my own money since about half a year and moving into an apartment for myself

[swift forge]

but if you compare 20ms keypress latency to 1ms, its easy to spot the difference

[sleek bronze]

It's most certainly your TV input lag yeah @crimson isle

[swift forge]

former being Apple Magic, latter a gaming board

ofc this is keypress latency

not pretravel since that can deviate a lot depending on the speed its pressed at

and the wpm rate

[spark hatch]

Makes no difference to me, aslong as I gotta good mouse I couldn't care less about what keyboards Be side it

unless it's linear, fuck linear baords

[crimson isle]

want to get a 32inch 1440p 165hz over time with a desk and chair, but first fix the keyboard and mouse side because the cost is a lot less and possible within a month or two easily

[swift forge]

its possible none of this has to do with your peripherals

[sleek bronze]

@swift forge it's just wireless vs non-wireless, this has nothing to do with "gaming keyboard"

[swift forge]

but, sure that keyboard is a bit of a problem

[swift forge]

hell I use the G915 as well, major difference

though I'm not proclaiming I'm superhuman or alien, but I've compared the Magic with G915 side by side, latency was perceptible

[crimson isle]

and another reason is, my MX master 3 falling apart because it uses rubber

[spark hatch]

Why do you have so many shitty "gaming" boards?

It seems you jsut have them all

[swift forge]

and I am quite sweaty in Asphalt 9, doing multiplayer matches where people are doing all to best others the Apple Magic was very slow to react to my drifting and I crashed a number of times

[spark hatch]

It's Bluetooth vs wire what you expect

[swift forge]

I don't own the G915, tbh, its a tech store comparison

[swift forge]

G915 is receiver wireless

thats my point, Magic lacks the technology to be a faster response board

[unkempt dome]

there's a huge difference between bluetooth and 2.4gHz tho ...

[swift forge]

yes ik

but you can see my point

[unkempt dome]

I see the point but it's not a good comparison ... different technology for different purpose

[swift forge]

if conpin wants lower latency his cheap productivity board which I assume has membrane switches will have to be swapped with something more high end, though not necessarily designed for gaming

[swift forge]

I'm just pointing out that some boards lack technology to be snappy and quick when it comes to responding to input

[spark hatch]

Then you don't use it, you've tried it

[unkempt dome]

it's a design choice

and compatibility choice

[swift forge]

alongside a Magic kb I own, yes

[crimson isle]

closest I can find for mouse is that razer pro click mouse...

[spark hatch]

Are you not talking about the magic board vs g815

[swift forge]

G815 is certainly faster, I'm saying that G915 I have compared alongside as well

but the G815 and G915 basically have the same latency figures

[sleek bronze]

That's because they use a specific receiver that isn't bluetooth

[spark hatch]

2.4ghz, yea it's made for that it's fast

[swift forge]

well there you go, Con pin could be using a bluetooth keyboard which adds latency

[sleek bronze]

That wouldn't account to 300ms delay

AND

[swift forge]

meanwhile Astro implementing a 5Ghz dongle into their A20 headset

[sleek bronze]

He said he uses a TV

Just the fact that he uses a TV is enough to know it's the problem

[swift forge]

Agreeable

[sleek bronze]

TV are known for having disgusting input lag (if there is no "gaming mode") because they do so much processing to the image

[unkempt dome]

most TV needs to be put on gaming mode if there's one in the first place

[swift forge]

8K TVs 💀

also plenty are capped at 60hz which adds further frame latency and whatnot

[spark hatch]

That's honestly worse than 2.4ghz

[swift forge]

supposed to be more speedy and deliver lower audio latency, but I can see it being a con for people that use a wireless 5Ghz headset from suitable watching distance from a TV

[spark hatch]

5hgz a lower wave length can't travel through very much material

But it is faster yes

[sleek bronze]

Well it's a shorter wave length, not higher

[spark hatch]

But it's no good if it cuts out abunch

[gleaming atlas]

Really depends on the TV, plenty have low latency modes

[spark hatch]

Oh oops

[swift forge]

yet another platform-specific product I believe, targeted at PC gamers who sit closer to their monitor and don't have as many electronic gadgets which can interfere with the connection

[sleek bronze]

Yup but it's still worth looking at that before buying a new keyboard thinking it's the source of the input lag ^^

[gleaming atlas]

All he's gotta do is post the model and I'm sure someone can find it

[spark hatch]

Fair

[swift forge]

I mean when I heard of the dongle using 5Ghz I was pretty sure one day headsets can connect to wifi and we'd be able to hear audible frequencies

[spark hatch]

Ah

[sleek bronze]

What

[spark hatch]

I'm fine with Bluetooth for audio it's quick and easy

[gleaming atlas]

wireless headsets seem really dumb for PC, "oh yay, more stuff to charge!"

[swift forge]

TV gamers, likely using dongle wireless kbs and mice or bluetooth controllers are destined to experience 300ms latency, no doubt

[spark hatch]

I got 2 cats, leaving a head set with a cord is a no go lmao

[swift forge]

since you're firing like 3 different types of electromagnetic waves in the same direction

[spark hatch]

That's a fair point tho

[sleek bronze]

Yet I still don't know how to have a good headphone/mic setup in my living room without it being a cable nightmare :/
If those wireless headset were ANY good it wouldn't be a problem ...

[gleaming atlas]

tv use? maybe. If you have an xbox one controller and the official dongle makes any 3.5mm set wireless.

[sleek bronze]

And then you have a pretty shitty dac/amp

[gleaming atlas]

Yea, I know what you mean. We tend to put ours up but if forgotten some cats love to chomp them up.

[swift forge]

next time you spot the cats trying to masticate on an audio wire, wait till their teeth bite into the wire and turn on your PC's PSU

[sleek bronze]

Won't do anything

[swift forge]

actually, better idea

play music from a mobile source, plug the headphones into the 3.5mm jack

then await the felines

if they try to nibble the cable by then, it should electrocute them

[late pulsar]

Wireless peripherals with dongles have barely any latency, if they're good that is

[spark hatch]

Eh not so much chewing they're fine with that but if I were to leave smthn like that out itd be on there floor 100% and depending on how expensive said headset is, I don't want it getting knocked on the floor every night

[late pulsar]

Of course depending how far you are granted

[swift forge]

I meant with the 5Ghz Astro A20 dongle I was talking about before

5Ghz = trouble foreboded

[spark hatch]

Aswell how many obstructions are in the way and how busy that wave length is in your environment

[ivory heath]

My keycaps are gonna be here Wednesday, the Q1 should be here by Sunday, but my switches still haven't shipped

[viscid jungle]

Use it without switches for the time being I say

[ivory heath]

It's coming with Gateron Phantom Blues 😔

[full hull]

Best budget keycaps that fit weird form factors that aren't EBPT or Tai Hao Cubic

[full hull]

what switches did you buy?

[ivory heath]

Box Jades

Have heard nothing but bad things about phantom blues

[strange sand]

damn bruh

[tulip zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/rgb-keyboard-neon-lights-glowing-keyboard-gaming-keyboard-gif-17496614

Found this, now leaving it here.

[slate lagoon]

can you please take it away? we dont want that crap here

[delicate fern]

1.) hollow pingy case
2.) scratchy linears
3.) loose bone dry stabs
4.) non detachable cable
5.) cheap thin keycaps
6.) northfacing leds
7.) non standard bottom row
8.) no via/qmk
i could go on

[chrome raft]

keyboard

[full hull]

Tbh this just looks like the most generic Cyclone effect RGB ever

[spark hatch]

yea

[spark hatch]

were did you order your switches from?

[slate lagoon]

Its not even per key its 3 zone RGB if thats the K55 anyway.

[worn storm]

A list of horrible things for sure, but #7 is unforgivable

[spark hatch]

looks like theres more than 3 colors on the board at a give time so it might be a different board that actually has per key rgb

[delicate fern]

i once turned a corsair k95 plat into a good board. used lubed and filmed cream switches, durrok v2 clip in stabs lubed and holee modded, nice sa keycaps, tape modded, added pe foam, added case foam, and attached a usb c port to the back.

[spark hatch]

looks pretty nice

[delicate fern]

the spacebar was the hardest part. i had to reuse the stock wire and that thing was terrible it was so bent warped. but nobody sells a 6.5u spacebar stab

[spark hatch]

ah

I mean wiress arent dredful to strighten

[delicate fern]

it was also just warped the bottom would be a normal one where they are parallell but the top was corsair the points were going 2 different directions. not easy to visualize but i hope you get it

[spark hatch]

oh I see

hmm

thats an interesting way to do it

[chrome raft]

Just wondering if anyone wants logitech G915TKL keyboard

[spark hatch]

wants? as in your giving it away?

[chrome raft]

I work there so I get it for cheap

retail is like 200 but i get it under 50

[spark hatch]

I see

[ivory heath]

NovelKeys

[spark hatch]

Ah

Yea they're alittle slow sometimes

[ivory heath]

They'll get here when they get here

But I'm not gonna bust out my key caps until they're in

[spark hatch]

Fair enough

[sleek bronze]

New keycaps

[modest creek]

@spark hatch We spoke a week or so ago about my Filco keyboard having intermittent USB issues. I cut the USB cable off and picked up a USB-C breakout from Adafruit. Took a minute over lunch today... it works!

I had some double typing keys but I think it may have been a pinched/intermittent USB cable

So I am going to 3D print some standoffs and epoxy them inside the keyboard base then file the cable opening a little larger and should be good to go!

[spark hatch]

Heyy sickk

[modest creek]

Yeah man - pumped to restore this old Filco

[spark hatch]

Ah nice nice

That'll be cool, gl man

[snow elbow]

ngl, i managed to get out of the keyboard rabbit hole by buying......and fucking razer huntsman tkl v2....i swore i would never buy a gaming keyboard, and now this has become my "end game"

[meager pollen]

i still prefer the apple magic keyboard

r/unpopularopinion

[modest creek]

oh boy

[meager pollen]

lmao

[modest creek]

I just built a killer system for my mom who is a developer

she worked on IBM Power7's and AS400s and shit

so she was used to the spring mechanical IBM boards

She was over trying out my like 15 different keyboards

[meager pollen]

the model m is still king

i like the magic keyboard cuz its small, rechargeable and i like shallow hey switches

i use it as my main desktop keyboard lmao

[modest creek]

well after all the KBs she tried here

She txtx me, "OK, I ended up with this:"

[sleek bronze]

You could make a low profile choc spaced plank

[modest creek]

https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/keyboards/mx-keys-mini.920-010473.html

😐

[meager pollen]

oooo

[modest creek]

I dunno how it is but looks squishy scissor or membrane

[meager pollen]

ci wanna i just need the money and time

also making it rechargeable, and wireless

i might get a cheap bt keyboard and use the board and battery

i also need keycaps and switches

[sleek bronze]

At least it's the best chiclet keeb that really has advantages

[modest creek]

I hope so

[sleek bronze]

It wouldn't be low profile

[meager pollen]

wdym? the bt keyboard im looking at is 6mm

and just use the board from it and solder on my own switches

[sleek bronze]

It's still cherry mx based

[brittle dew]

Guys there is a mechanical keyboard out there that has the frame white and black key caps ?

I don`t see any

[meager pollen]

thats still pretty thin but i want wireless

budget?

[brittle dew]

doesnt matter

[meager pollen]

then get a white keyboard and replace the caps if money isnt a concern

[brittle dew]

I guess you`ll suggest a custom one

[spark hatch]

waht size board

[ivory heath]

Ayyyyy my switches shipped about an hour ago. They're coming from West Virginia to Kentucky so they might end up getting here before the keyboard lmao

[spark hatch]

lmao

nicee

[mint plank]

https://www.amazon.ca/Logitech-Tenkeyless-Lightspeed-Mechanical-LIGHTSYNC/dp/B085RFFC9Q/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2TS8WCE24P255&keywords=logitech+g915+tkl+lightspeed&qid=1649723805&sprefix=g915+tkl+ligh%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExSUY0S0NUOEM4S1U4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTI5MTgwMlo2NjFJV0VUQU4yNiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDkxNTYyQVY3MlFDRFIyWElLJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Overkill?

[spark hatch]

its bad so

[modern sphinx]

Really depends on what layout do you want. And if you want low profile or what other features

But in that price range can have lot of stuff like some steelseries kbs with displays, or analog kbs with adjustable distance like wooting two/60HE.
Or even some custom stuff.

[spark hatch]

keychron c1 is a much better option

if you want lowprofile and wireless get the keychron k10

[mint plank]

I want it to be logitech perferably

[modern sphinx]

Why though?

[spark hatch]

why?

[full hull]

GHub user

lmoa

[spark hatch]

they're boards are terrible

[full hull]

Tbh why not get a software agnostic keyboard

one of those QMK/Via Keyboards

[polar granite]

someone (image not mine) sanded down the sides of their keycaps to make them look like pudding keycaps, is this something i should do as well? i really like how it looks but idk if its a good idea

[full hull]

pudding keycaps are literally like 20$

[swift forge]

Ancient Logitech G keyboard

[polar granite]

i couldnt find any pudding keycaps with the romer g switch stems, im looking in the wrong places maybe, so i thought "why not make my own"

[spark hatch]

just buy pudding caps. you'll never get them to look like that

[spark hatch]

ohh, yea ig thats your only choice

just know you kinda only get one chance

[polar granite]

I mean I got pretty close, wont be the exact same but

[spark hatch]

oh yea thats pretty good

yea you seesm to know what your doing, go for it

[polar granite]

the thing im most concerned about tho is that its irreversable, though it probably wont bother me much

[analog wyvern]

Guys

Thoughts abour Akko CS Matcha Green and Radiant Red as Linear Switches?

[full hull]

Ajazz Diced Fruit Peach

Those are better imo

[spark hatch]

if I remember correctly they're decent but not amazing?

[full hull]

They're good budget switches

[spark hatch]

as for all akko switches

[proper current]

I have the newer version of that keyboard

They're romer gs tho

[chilly perch]

Is there any reasonable way to get round typewriter keycaps in a custom color with a white legend, or even rgb shine thru

Could find blank round keycaps and dye them, but no legend that way

[spark hatch]

look on alit express

thats all I got

[chilly perch]

Time to buy an injection molding machine with keycap molds

[analog wyvern]

[full hull]

you can see it in the bottom

The jar

[analog wyvern]

I know

Its prelubed too right?

[vale mist]

would be even better if they used an actual fruit can

paper label and everything

[analog wyvern]

Or better, tin can

[vale mist]

they just use this

[spark hatch]

lmao

[strange sand]

yo my keyboard is now poppy

[spark hatch]

nice

[hardy mirage]

do royal kludge make good keyboards?

[spark hatch]

yea thyre good budget options

[hardy mirage]

thanks.

[spark hatch]

np

[modern sphinx]

I mean tbf it’s not the worst software ever but the biggest issue is stability. At least for me would not start half of the time and stay loading infinitely unless I restarted it

[analog wyvern]

Thats what im using atm

[hardy mirage]

lovely!

[modern sphinx]

Ngl wish wooting 60HE was wireless

[analog wyvern]

Btw, alternative other than Akko CS and Ajazz Diced Fruit?

[full hull]

Aflion Iceberg Pink

[analog wyvern]

The seller (for Ajazz Fruit) didnt respond for quite a while noa

Hm...

Cant find it

Tokopedia and Shopee gave me nothing

[rapid oracle]

jwick

[analog wyvern]

Jwick black?

[analog wyvern]

Also, looking for linear ones

Since i have clicky ones here (which i can use again later ^^a)

[rapid oracle]

Jwick black, jwick yellow are both good

I like black more

[analog wyvern]

Hm...

How much different is Black with Black Ultimate?

Oh

Just realized, the Black one isnt transparent enough for the RGB to go through

After looking through...

JWK Black: 690k IDR
JWK Ultimate: 635k IDR
AJAZZ Peach: 435k IDR (no response from the seller tho)

Also both JWK comes prelubed + filmed

[astral fog]

Thermaltake has a good set

I had one of the models the commander. Really tough

[vale mist]

But the Fortnite gamers 🗿

[modern sphinx]

I mean the target audience did change a bit but it’s still a good keyboard for other stuff

[ivory heath]

This is a whirlwind

[slate lagoon]

Mine. With lubed reds and aftermarket stabs, foam and felt inserts.

guys my reds are super sensitive. like they activate just resting my hands on the keys sometimes. What's a good upgrade that requires a bit more pressure to activate?

[ionic briar]

gateron yellow prob?
your rk61 is hotswappable?

[slate lagoon]

Yeah

[worldly shale]

akko radiant reds and jelly blacks are nice

[slate lagoon]

the gateron yellow milky pro's look like a good shout anyone tried them?

[violet pumice]

I used to tried them and for the price of what ur getting, it a win win for the g milky yellow pro

[slate lagoon]

did yours come pre-lubed? the site im looking at says they do.. and some youtube reviews say they do. But the reviews say different

[violet pumice]

It a bit high pitch tho but I think for a plastic case should be fine

It was pre lube but not very good

[slate lagoon]

ahh ok so either way im gonna have to lube them haha

[violet pumice]

The only thing is the spring it very scratchy like most others

Also adding a film should make the switch sound more thocky

Definitely recommend

[unkempt dome]

Tecsee carrot imo are way better than gateron yellow

[spark hatch]

how much are they tho?

yellows are cheap thats why they're so popular

[delicate fern]

I really like gateron switches. Tecsee has qc issues

[modest creek]

dat cat tho

[crimson isle]

there are two breeds I think of when I see that cat, one is short hair one is long hair
(long hair don't know the name, shorter hair siamese)

this would be categorized as an ad most likely and get you banned/warning of some form

[pseudo bolt]

The rules don't explicitly say for stuff like that, but yeah I'll ask to double check.

[ivory heath]

Ouuuuu

Ignore it not being centered, it's a good picture

[wispy frigate]

hey hey! does anyone know or own this keyboard?
https://www.amazon.com/LTC-Nimbleback-Ultra-Compact-Hot-Swappable-Stand-Alone/dp/B08X6HDTNP
and does anyone know if it is any good?
right now i own this keyboard
https://www.amazon.nl/Corsair-Gaming-toetsenbord-bekabeld-QWERTZ-lay-out/dp/B01MRH2VSL/ref=sr_1_9?geniuslink=true&keywords=Corsair+K68&qid=1649781121&sr=8-9
but i want to switch because its too big and i want a full mechanical keyboard

[ivory heath]

These Gateron Phantom Blues are unsatisfying

Not very clicky, and there's basically no resistance

Kinda feeling like they're gross

[pseudo bolt]

For anyone interested in Model M buckling spring keyboards or vintage keyboards in general (and educational stuff), I've recently released wiki pages on my site detailing their design details, a bit of history, some historic pricing info, possible branding and connectivity, and known variants!

Enhanced Keyboard (full-size): https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelmenhanced
Space Saving Keyboard (SSK, tenkeyless): https://sharktastica.co.uk/wiki?id=modelmssk

Enjoy! (posting again since I deleted it the first time whilst I clarified if it was okay to post this.)

[pseudo bolt]

Q1 is hotswappable right? I'd say BOX clickies are a nice alternative.

[ivory heath]

It is, I have Box Jades in the mail but the board and caps got here before the switches lmao

USPS still doesn't even have the switches to ship them

[unkempt dome]

Paid 0.02$ for 90 when on sale

Was 28$ cad for 90 carrot and 90 purple panda including shipping

For that price I couldn't pass on them

[spark hatch]

Ah

Well nvm then maybe carrots are vetter

[ivory heath]

Also Ryzen, the cable is green

Not just some weird grey

[ivory heath]

Ignore the chipped nails, I need to redo them.

Is it normal for the caps to be damaged on the bottom

Almost all of them have little chips missing out of the bottom of them

[strange sand]

lesgo i finaly got keycap's\

i cant change teh rgb tho

[robust sigil]

beutiful lad

[strange sand]

whole keyboard with everything was like 70 dollars and it sounds good

[modest creek]

@crimson isle that lil fella is a siamese

[crimson isle]

aka the short hair, because the one that has longer hair but same colors has a different name, tho I forgot what it was called

[ivory heath]

I think I have to shave the edges of my return and backspace keys

I got too excited for these keycaps and put them on the gross switches, and the backspace and return keys will occasionally hit the edge of the body, making a louder than expected noise and sometimes the return key just sticks

[spark hatch]

Oh sick

[spark hatch]

whats wrong with them I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary?

if you're talking about that, its for the molds all caps have those, they're not noticeable once on the board

[ivory heath]

Some of them are noticable, but only I think two or three because they sit higher up out of the body.

[spark hatch]

ah thats unfortunate, yea its just those caps, usually not that noticeable

[spark hatch]

are you sure the caps are pushed all the way on? they shouldnt stick up

[ivory heath]

I am positive

I cannot take a straight picture to save my life

And the down arrow, that you can barely see

The others are fine

[spark hatch]

hmm odd, unfortunately they must just be lower quility caps

usually you can just push them down tho

ik my cheaper caps you have to push quite hard to get them all level

[ivory heath]

When I was putting them on there were a few that I didn't put on all the way and it was very noticeable

[hardy mirage]

thanks so much for sharing, it looks cool

[crimson isle]

my grandparents used to have one, and because of that it is the cat I want because of nostalgia
(both the kind of dog and cat, siamese cat, and wiener doggo or "dachshund")

[modest creek]

Nice! Have had siamese my whole life. When I was 3 - 4 years old my dad got me a kitten that lived to be 21 years old. A couple years ago another siamese of mine made it to 18 years old. They're good little buds.

[slate lagoon]

Guys.. this isn't #pets you know.

[valid ember]

for the doggo, call it frank lol

[crimson isle]

it is a single response message long sir, no discussion yet

[slate lagoon]

No no.. the entire cat conversation has been going on since about 7pm gmt last night, its now 330pm gmt the next day

[slate lagoon]

That's terrible quality keys. What brand are they? so that i can avoid. 🇫

[ivory heath]

They were a group buy that aren't in production anymore 😭

I have no idea who they had produce them

[slate lagoon]

There's a good reason they're not in production anymore haha

[crimson isle]

if you count that as "hours long" even tho it is with literally 20 hours in between with like 4 messages total or so, sure
but people sleep and have a life after all

[ivory heath]

As far as I understand it, GBs are limited run no matter what the quality is

[slate lagoon]

Honestly i'd sand each edge down so they all look the same.

[ivory heath]

I'm tempted to

Just on the bottom row

[slate lagoon]

Yeah i would. Just the ones you can see. That's all you need

[ivory heath]

I had to sand down a few already because they were bumping the body and making the wrong noises lmao

Only Backspace and Return tho

I think part of that is the stock switches in the Q1 though.

[slate lagoon]

exactly i've been asleep woke up the next day and there's still cat chat going on haha. Don't hate, its just an observation.

[ivory heath]

They wiggle a little more than I was expecting, and the noise didn't always happen.

[slate lagoon]

Does the wiggle come from the switches though?

or is there play between the switch and the keys?

[ivory heath]

The post wiggles without the key

[slate lagoon]

Ahh not good. Hopefully you'll get your switches soon

[ivory heath]

And the keys are on as far as I can get them, on top of them being tight to get off lmao

Should only be Friday

[crimson isle]

"still"

there was no message in between, maybe one

[slate lagoon]

Ah not long then. I'm still not sure on what switches to go for. Milky yellows seem a bit cheap from what i'm hearing. The Gateron Oil King switches look great but they're out of stock everywhere.

[ivory heath]

I got uhhhhh

108 Box Jades for $41 after shipping

[spark hatch]

Dang

That's pretty good

[ivory heath]

That NovelKeys site seemed pretty competitive on their pricing.

I definitely ordered way too many switches though 😂

[slate lagoon]

I just ordered some Gateron Oil Kings.. $50 for 70.

Probably won't be here for a month.. its Aliexpress to the UK

[ivory heath]

NovelKeys shipped out of West Virginia

Which, WV to Kentucky is a day trip lmao

[wispy frigate]

does anyone know if this keyboard is any good?
https://www.amazon.com/GK61-Swappable-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B07QYHM32Q/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1R72RYCM2LEXK&keywords=rk%2B61%2Bmalibu&qid=1649867054&sprefix=rk%2B61%2Bmalibu%2Caps%2C132&sr=8-3

[spark hatch]

you have extras!

[spark hatch]

meh, its optical

[delicate fern]

i wouldnt go with it. you cant replace the switches very easily since its optical

[spark hatch]

Id' get a royalkludge 61

[wispy frigate]

it has also mechanical key variants

[wispy frigate]

I also saw this one
https://www.amazon.com/LTC-Nimbleback-Ultra-Compact-Hot-Swappable-Stand-Alone/dp/B08X6HDTNP

is the royalkludge good?

[delicate fern]

even then it has north facing leds and the keycaps look thin

[spark hatch]

yea I see that, I'd still go for the royal kludge

its alot more known board

[delicate fern]

i like the royal kludge

[spark hatch]

its a very popular budget option, yes its good

if you want smthn more premium keychron q2 is a really nice board

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q2-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard

[delicate fern]

or a stacked board from cannon keys

[spark hatch]

https://www.amazon.com/RK-ROYAL-KLUDGE-Ultra-Compact-Switch-White/dp/B0832CZNS5/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=royal+kludge+61&qid=1649867878&sr=8-4

[wispy frigate]

yeah i alrdy saw this one but its a little too much money since you still need to buy switches and keycaps

[spark hatch]

no no you do not

[wispy frigate]

its bear bones right?

[spark hatch]

but fair enough, It is alot for a board to alot of people

[spark hatch]

they have an option for it but no

[wispy frigate]

oh okay

[spark hatch]

all the options are on the right

[wispy frigate]

im not a fan of the colours tbh

I really want a white keyboard (or black if its a really nice keyboard and there is no white)

[spark hatch]

I was just throwing the q1 out there, its made for a whole differnt market than the board you were looking at

[wispy frigate]

yeah true

[spark hatch]

if you were willing to spend that much it is a really nice option tho

[spark hatch]

q1 comes in white

[wispy frigate]

I like that the royalkludge still has the arrow keys btw

[spark hatch]

but I'd prolly just go for the rk61 if you dont wanna spend that much

[slate lagoon]

very good. hot swappable. Very customisable. Reliable software.

[wispy frigate]

yeah i also saw this one

[wispy frigate]

sound nice!

[slate lagoon]

im biased though because i have one haha

[spark hatch]

its good for the price, its still north facin led, plaastic build, cheaper keycaps, and for software it'd be better off with via but its software is fine

[wispy frigate]

you can change the keycaps

[spark hatch]

yes ik

[wispy frigate]

which one is this?

[spark hatch]

but stock its caps are on the cheaper end

[spark hatch]

rk61

[slate lagoon]

yeah i mean compared to other amazon budget keyboards the software is better. plus by the time you add foam and felt, new switches and better keys. Its a great keyboard

[wispy frigate]

is it glorious?

[slate lagoon]

oh and better stabs,

[spark hatch]

true

[spark hatch]

mouse is glorious, the kb is royal kludge

[slate lagoon]

no thats the RK61.. mouse is Glorius D

[wispy frigate]

nice

which switches should i get?

I know some differences but not rlly

[spark hatch]

reds are linear, browns are a light tactile and blues are clicky

here wait

[spark hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834558873398411335/949563928831201281/Linear-vs-Tactile-vs-Clicky-Infographic-1.png?size=4096

[wispy frigate]

hmmm

I think I'll go for red or brown

because blue too loud

look
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M4LIKLI?tag=rtings-kb-p-amazon-20&ie=UTF8
this is the keyboard I have rn 😔

[spark hatch]

yieks

[wispy frigate]

its way too big

[spark hatch]

mhm

[wispy frigate]

even w/out wrist thing

[spark hatch]

I actually am fine with a big board but I also have an abnormally large desk

[royal patrol]

having used both absolutely massive boards and 60% boards i think my favorite format would be a compact TKL

one with no spacing inbetween the keys like youd find on a 60% board but with all the keys of the TKL layout

[spark hatch]

75%

but nice

[royal patrol]

75% is nice too but nearly all of them are exploded

[wispy frigate]

I also have quit a big desk but when playing csgo I just do not have enough mouse pad space with it

[royal patrol]

i dont want needless space between key sections

[royal patrol]

and come with rotary knobs or other features

just a completely compact 75/80% for me

[spark hatch]

why not exploded?

it doesnt make it barley any bigger

[royal patrol]

it takes up extra space and i dont personally feel any comfortability or aesthetic improvement

if anything i prefer cramped key layouts aesthetically

[wispy frigate]

btw my left hand fingers hurt because the keys suck to use when gaming

[spark hatch]

yikes

thats not good

[wispy frigate]

yeah thats why i want a new one

[royal patrol]

if you didnt explode your keyboard you could fit an 80% board in the same space as a 75% exploded board

getting the benefit of the lesser size without losing those 5% of keys

[wispy frigate]

also because modding looks fun and this one doesn't take any of it

[spark hatch]

what? no you cant a 75% is a compacted 80%

[chilly perch]

full keyboard master race

[delicate fern]

may i suggest 40%

[spark hatch]

it is pretty fun, worth the experience

[delicate fern]

very compact

[royal patrol]

based

[royal patrol]

that looks like a headache to use but it's cute

[spark hatch]

🤢

[wispy frigate]

what would happen if I would cut off some keys of my 100% to make it 75% (like with a saw of knife)

[spark hatch]

how do people use that

[chilly perch]

Not a huge fan of adding a gap on the side to add a bar of macro keys, but standard full size best

[delicate fern]

i use it daily

[wispy frigate]

oh shit its a keyboard I thought it were just some keys

why?

[spark hatch]

personally like 96%'s for full size

[delicate fern]

all the keys you need and none that you dont

[wispy frigate]

thats like more a controller lol

[spark hatch]

its just the alpha keys

[chilly perch]

what keys is 96%

or are u joking

[spark hatch]

the very basic necessities

[royal patrol]

they look like this

[delicate fern]

its alphas, symbols, modifiers and 1-4+ escape

[spark hatch]

ill show you

[royal patrol]

it's basically just a squished together full board

i want a board like that but TKL

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k4-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-version-2

[chilly perch]

whats it missing

[chilly perch]

This is not my keyboard but i just like the bog standard shit, even better with the 4 keys above numpad

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-hot-swappable-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32187465629785

[spark hatch]

nothing

its just compacted

[chilly perch]

oh ic

[royal patrol]

96% board yet missing a key i use daily

[chilly perch]

🥴

[spark hatch]

that key is?

[chilly perch]

I should get myself a wireless full sized keyboard that would be nice

[spark hatch]

just rebind it to smthn else

[chilly perch]

ive been using a shitty like idk 2014 full sized wired keyboard since then

[royal patrol]

insert

[spark hatch]

ibo idek what that does but you can just rebind it

[spark hatch]

your board looks quite nice

[chilly perch]

not my keybaord above

[spark hatch]

oh I see

[chilly perch]

uhhh

[spark hatch]

OHH I didnt see the NOT my keyboard

oops

[chilly perch]

🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡

been using this baby every day for years, only sometimes completely fucking breaks

[spark hatch]

damn

thats pretty rough lmao

[royal patrol]

now that is pro gaming gear

[chilly perch]

except mine is cherry blue switches

super gamer

fixed blue only leds 😎

[royal patrol]

i have one like that but it's an ancient coolermaster board and it's TKL

thing weighs like 5lb

[chilly perch]

premium keycaps that have some top layer completely scubbed off

👍

[spark hatch]

hell yea

well if you want wireless, https://www.keychron.com/collections/100-layout-keyboards/products/keychron-k10-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39426678325337

[chilly perch]

That would be a nice up/side grade

[spark hatch]

its pretty slim pickings for high quility full size boards

[royal patrol]

humongous

[chilly perch]

Is the wireless actually good on keyboards nowadays or r they bad

[royal patrol]

wireless can be imperceptible compared to a wire if it's a proprietary dongle but bluetooth isnt perfect

[chilly perch]

ah

I dont suppose the keychron has a dongle

doesnt look like it

[royal patrol]

i dont think any enthusiast keyboards really do

[spark hatch]

its fine, its hard to find on high end boards but its fine

[spark hatch]

it does not

[royal patrol]

full size but also wireless is pretty niche

[spark hatch]

2.4ghz is even harder to find lmao

[spark hatch]

its fairly niche is enthusiast boards as a whole tbh

but yes its very neche for full size

[chilly perch]

Do those DIY keyboard firmwares have support for adding a 2.4ghz dongle? idk how that works at all so

if i were to go nerd out and build a kb

whch im not gonna do

[spark hatch]

never thought about trying to add it so im not too sure?

I mean worse case you would have to make a custom firmware but it might be possible

[chilly perch]

Definitely wouldnt be up for the task of writing my own firmware but any of the QMK and whatever other tools there are perhaps?

[spark hatch]

I think only keychrons flagship boards have gmk and via support sadly

[chilly perch]

Yeah ik but does the gmk/via itself have support for them

[spark hatch]

oh I see, I have no idea, havent looked

[silent oyster]

Anyone swapped the switches on that Cherry MX Red laptop keyboard? Curious if it's been tried/done before 🤔

[spark hatch]

I don't think you can?

[delicate fern]

what laptop?

[latent blaze]

really? most budget diy boards i look at have wire bluetooth and 2.4

[spark hatch]

Yea budget, most high end enthusiast boards are aluminum, you're not gonna get a good signal through the aluminum body

[latent blaze]

Fair

couldnt you get a usb-c 2.4ghz dongle tho?

If those are even a thing

[spark hatch]

Maybe?

I have never seen one but I'm not saying they don't exist

[silent oyster]

Anyone know why the Keychron K3 is $84 on Keychron's website and $109 on MK?

Also if it's any good of a board in general lol, was just slightly considering it to play with different low-profile switches 🤷‍♂️

[wispy frigate]

should i buy optical switches? or just mechanical?

[strange sand]

mech

optical is a waste

a waste of sand

99% of ppl dont need it

unless your an epic pro rgb gaymer with razer stuff

[spark hatch]

mechanical

[spark hatch]

why dont you just order off there website?

[spark hatch]

nuphy air 75 is alr or one of keychrons lowprofile boards are pretty good

[wispy frigate]

lmao "fortnite gamer"

[strange sand]

fax bruh

[wispy frigate]

btw im going to buy a ducky now

https://www.alternate.nl/Ducky/One-2-Mini-RGB-Pure-White-Gaming-toetsenbord/html/product/1628817

[sleek bronze]

It's hard to get used to my corne colemak keyboard

[wispy frigate]

I first wanted to buy a rk61 or gk61 but because i live in the netherlands it was all rlly expensive for what i would get because of import fees

[silent oyster]

I really love MK, they’re great. If I can just go pick it up in-store I’d prefer that and supporting a local business. Just curious if they’re the same or whatever

[spark hatch]

its just keychrons shipping fees not much you can do about it, I havent heard of mk but I would think its still still the legit board

[silent oyster]

Yeah not concerned about legitimacy, didn’t realize Keychron charged for shipping so that makes sense. Might just get it from MK then (MechanicalKeyboards.com, they’ve actually sponsored the WAN show before which is kinda cool lol). Thanks fam :)

[spark hatch]

OHH yea Ik mechanicalkeyboards.com Ig I just wasnt putting 2 and 2 together

[wispy frigate]

i live in the middle of nowhere they don't know what a keyboard is here (-_-)

[ivory heath]

Yeah these switches do nothing for me

I like the noise from the space bar tho

[spark hatch]

ew I forgot how pingy the q1 is stock

[ivory heath]

Without any tape mods? 😂

[spark hatch]

yea those dont sound very good, its a very dull click

[spark hatch]

eh, mainly the break mod saves the q1

[ivory heath]

Yep. And I've heard Box Jades so I am already ready

[spark hatch]

box jades are really sharp

like the click is sharp sounding

[ivory heath]

Anyways, I can only imagine how the Jades will feel, especially compared to these.

[spark hatch]

much better.

not even a comparison

[strange sand]

are thsoe liek cliucking

clcikiy

[spark hatch]

phantom blues, yes they're clickies

[strange sand]

ah

[ivory heath]

A very gross and unsatisfying click

I don't know if I'll do the break mod though.

If the keyboard is still kind of like... Hollow with a better click after the Jades, I'll be happy

It's already a nice balance, I think

[spark hatch]

fair enough, It wont be very noticeable esspecially if you dont carea bout how it sounds. I just kinda care about how my boards sound so it was one of the first things I noticed

[ivory heath]

Oh I care about it

[spark hatch]

doesnt sound hollow tho

[ivory heath]

I just think it sounds neat

[spark hatch]

ah

[ivory heath]

I don't think I really know how to describe it then

Compared to the rest of the keys,I would describe it as hollow because it's light

[spark hatch]

fair enough

[strange sand]

are akkos good

i mgiht get them to replece my outemu red's

[spark hatch]

you're looking at they're linears?

[strange sand]

ye

[spark hatch]

I think they're decent if I remember correctly but I would also look at Tecsee carrot's

[ivory heath]

Are there good budget hotswappable bodies? Like, sub $100

[spark hatch]

royal kludge

uhm some keychron builds

like the k6

n80 is pretty cool too

[ivory heath]

Wrong field lmao

Thought I was typing into Google

[spark hatch]

how do you do that~

[ivory heath]

But, as much as I don't need more than one keyboard I already want more. So if I can have one that's nicer than the rest, but the rest are still good, I'd be happy. I really just want different styles, like Akko's Evangelion keycaps

Also how do I type into Discord instead of google? By being an idiot

[spark hatch]

and another soul lost to keyboards

well this is a pretty compeling option https://drop.com/buy/next-time-x75-gasket-mechanical-keyboard-kit/details?defaultSelectionIds=966860

and keychron board

or any royal kludge board are all good options

[ivory heath]

Akko is reputable, correct? Iirc we had this conversation and you said they were good unless it's a clone

[spark hatch]

yea akko is good

[ivory heath]

Because I love this

The hand tattoo that I have is Eva-01 lmao

[spark hatch]

I actually just got some switches from them acouple days ago

[spark hatch]

ah I see lmao

[spark hatch]

oh thats cool

[ivory heath]

I have a soft spot for Evangelion, and giant robots in general

I guess the good part about being a bigger company is that you can afford to have large quantities of a special keycap and not charge through the teeth for it

Those are only $60

[ivory heath]

I'm about to get this for the Eva board lmao

Transparent is really the only color that works imo

[spark hatch]

lmao, just know drop can take abit to ship + I think tahts not shipping till like april 22

[ivory heath]

Estimated ship date says July 8th

[spark hatch]

you can find it in other places tho

oh ouch

[ivory heath]

Oh?

[spark hatch]

I think its on amaozn

amazon

[ivory heath]

KPRepublic says it's in stock as well

[spark hatch]

https://www.amazon.com/NextTime-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Keyboard-Swappable/dp/B09VPDDWKN/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1PFA1NOJ86V3J&keywords=Next+Time+X75+keyboard&qid=1649902380&sprefix=next+time+x75+keyboar%2Caps%2C184&sr=8-9

[ivory heath]

why tf is it $100 on Amazon

[spark hatch]

yea you can get it from quite afew vendors it seems

[spark hatch]

because its amazon

ever seen anything competitively priced on amazon?

[ivory heath]

Actually,

Hold on

I'll go take some screenshots

[spark hatch]

well atleast for me (cad) I' havent seen many good deals

[ivory heath]

Barnes and Noble is almost always overpriced

[spark hatch]

huh would you look at that

it must just be my region/genre of stuff I look at

[ivory heath]

No, there's a lot that's still marked up on Amazon

But for some reason they just throw books away

[spark hatch]

ah, well it started as a book store so

[ivory heath]

Any time I buy Manga, unless it's something old or in limited printing, I go to Amazon

Right

Okay so, that X75

What even is Forested?

It looks white

On Drop and this KPRepublic, the product images are not helpful at all

[spark hatch]

its clear plastic thats textured so its not perfectly clear

its got like a texture to it

its basically semi transparent

[ivory heath]

[spark hatch]

that give you any idea/

[ivory heath]

That's just frosted glass

Why is it spelled Forested

[spark hatch]

oh

I think thats just a spelling error, im pretty sure its frosted plastic

[ivory heath]

It's weird as hell that it's like that on two different websites

[spark hatch]

if you search for just the board there might be some better pictures

[ivory heath]

I just saw a picture of someone post a Womier K66

Kinda dig that

It's weird, because it's specifically due to the right end of the board

[spark hatch]

havent heard much on it

[ivory heath]

The arrow keys are butted up against everything else and there's that empty space above them

[spark hatch]

ah

[ivory heath]

I dunno

My taste in things is varying, at best

I think the easiest way I can put it is, sometimes a big nose is someone's best feature because of how well it works with the rest of their face, stuff like that

That's the dumbest analogy ever but like

If something works, it works

[spark hatch]

honestly as long as someone isnt really into those super weird preparatory layouts that oems use idc what layout you like/use

[ivory heath]

Can u give me an image as an example please

[slate lagoon]

there's people out there that don't even use the qwerty layout anymore. apparently there's better alternatives which help to type quicker. I think my muscle memory would struggle with them tbh

[ivory heath]

Every time I try to type quickly I have to look at the kb anyways

But my macro keys

[spark hatch]

sorda the idea, bottom row isnt standard so you cant replace them, and all the extra keys are hard to fill with third part caps unless they third parts have lots of novelty keys

[spark hatch]

not quite true you can type faster on them

[ivory heath]

Does Corsair even have a hotswappable board yet?

[spark hatch]

but thats what they're intended for

[spark hatch]

lmao

no

[ivory heath]

I was about to say

[slate lagoon]

thats what i said. Apparently you can type quicker. But i think id struggle

[spark hatch]

asus is the only one trying if I remember correctly

[ivory heath]

I watched the SC video today about some Corsair boards

It just came up in my recommended since most of what I've been watching lately is keyboard related

[spark hatch]

theres only a hand full of world records on other layouts but current records and lots following still use qwerty

[spark hatch]

ah

[slate lagoon]

that could be a numbers thing though.. there are a lot more people that try to speed type with qwerty than there is the alternatives. If more people switched to the other options i think there would be more records eventiall. I don't think i could get used to it. Been typing for a good 27 years with qwerty.

[vale mist]

I'm just bad at typing lol

[slate lagoon]

I was trained by the best many years ago.... MSN Messenger

[ivory heath]

What's a good website that has like....... custom key caps?

For stuff like this

I can find pictures on Google but not a place to get them

[slate lagoon]

what site is that?

[vale mist]

Literally everyone but me in the rhythm game community types at least 90

[spark hatch]

this is true

[vale mist]

monkeytype

[spark hatch]

I dont see myself ever switching to another layout tho, It would severely limit my options, and i like options

[vale mist]

slightly better

[spark hatch]

eh its fast enough

[vale mist]

E

[spark hatch]

Im not much better, I can type at 120~ if im just typing waht I want to but cant break 70wpm on a typing test

[slate lagoon]

yeah give me a full sentence instead of random words and im much quicker.

[ivory heath]

Exactly

If I'm typing out my own thoughts I'm gucci

[vale mist]

that's why I do quotes

[spark hatch]

monkey type does have sentences

[ivory heath]

I see the option

[spark hatch]

yea

[slate lagoon]

ooh let me check that then.

[ivory heath]

I am absolutely not used to this keyboard yet lmao

GGEZ

[slate lagoon]

I like the short ones haha

[vale mist]

short ones are fun
my typing stamina is bad

[slate lagoon]

Its the punctuation on the quotes that throws me off haha.

[vale mist]

well ye

[slate lagoon]

Ok that's my last one. I've just done a 12 hour shift at work 😴

[spark hatch]

yea im pretty slow

[crimson slate]

thoughts on the niz plum keyboards?

[ivory heath]

Dude this is sick

https://kprepublic.com/collections/xd84/products/stainless-steel-bent-case-for-xd84-eepw84-custom-keyboard-acrylic-panels-acrylic-diffuser

[spark hatch]

havent really heard about them

[vale mist]

only plate

no case

[spark hatch]

oh

interesting

[ivory heath]

Yeah

And it shows it built out with the PCB and everything just screwed into it

[vale mist]

an interesting idea, wonder how it sounds

[spark hatch]

yea

[ivory heath]

I might mess around and find out

[spark hatch]

I feel like it would be pretty hollow?

eh no ig prolly not

[vale mist]

it could also sound really good like if it were only the pcb

[spark hatch]

yea

[ivory heath]

For $40 I feel like it might be worth a try

If I get those Evangelion Akko caps I need at least a 75% so I can get the orange on the board lmao

[spark hatch]

you aslo need psb too btw

[ivory heath]

I almost bought that Womier 66 but it has no function keys

Oh I know

[spark hatch]

just checking

[ivory heath]

But $40 for the body was my point

[spark hatch]

yea Isee

[slate lagoon]

I like that.. may only sound hollow depending on what surface its on.. wooden desk or a mat.

[spark hatch]

yea, I dont think it would sound too hollow tho

[strange sand]

lmfao bro my friend gets 148

on a school chromebook

💀

[spark hatch]

I can type way faster on my laptop too

[solid garden]

Im looking for a keyboard that is like a 60% with function keys, I find 75% super ugly imo so its a no go

Idc about arrows or the numpad

[spark hatch]

a 60% with function row is a 75%

but theres the q1 for one option https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q1

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k2-hot-swappable-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32187465629785

or if you dont like the exploded 75% look theres the k2

[solid garden]

I specifically dont want the arrows is why I dont like 75%

I pretty much want a regular keyboard with nothing to the right of ctrl or f12

same height and everything just not as wide

[spark hatch]

getting rid of arrows keys isnt gonna make it any smaller but ok

[round robin]

man i need a wrist rest for this

any recommendations?

i have mine already

[spark hatch]

keychrons is nice, and is cut to fit the exact size

[spark hatch]

if you absolutley cant do arrow keys but want funtion row you're only choice as far as im away is an external macro board or keybindings

[solid garden]

Oh well maybe I will just go with a tkl

[spark hatch]

didnt you want it as small as possible?

keychron k3 for a more premium board or keychron k8 for more budget option

royal kludge also makes an alr tkl for the price

[solid garden]

I wanted is smaller in width

but a regular layout otherwise

[spark hatch]

ok adn you realise a tkl is far bigger than 75% right?

[solid garden]

I got this cheap keyboard to try 60% https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MRH3LXT?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Its nice but I want to have function keys

Yes but im not a fan of the 75% layout personally

I dont like having the function keys squished down and the row on the right side feels weird to me and ugly

[spark hatch]

the function keyts arent squished down?

but ok

get an external macro board

[ivory heath]

Okay so, run me through on PCBs as quickly as you can, if you have the time

What are the qualities I want in one, what's a reasonable price, that kind of thing

I know I can pay bookoo bucks for anything and everything for kbs, but what are the cornerstones of a good PCB when you're putting the thing together yourself, entirely

There's a 9/10 chance that I buy that steel plate case, honestly.

And I'll need everything else, of course

[spark hatch]

not the best person to ask since I mainly just get prebuilts and highly mod them/get barebones of boards, but south facing rgb is smthn you want, hotswap is good in most situwations, and gmk and via support is very nice.

nothing else off the top of my head you wanna look for

[spark hatch]

everything above and I believe they're 50$~? have no idea tho I havent looked at pcb's is quite some time

[spark hatch]

best bet is looking on geekhack

they might have smthn like that

[chrome raft]

What are the best switches

For me chérie brown mx

[unkempt dome]

better get them sooner than later cause they are being discontinued soon ...

[covert oyster]

I’m thinking of changing my red switches for aqua kings I know they are not liked but what do you guys think?

[slate lagoon]

I think they're not liked for a reason. What are you looking for in a switch?

I currently have reds but im going for some Gateron Oil Kings as i want something with a bit more force that i can rest my hand on without activating but still being buttery smooth.

[covert oyster]

I don’t mind about sound I want a liner switch that feels very smooth

[slate lagoon]

Anything lubed will feel smooth. Are you wanting something light to press. Long travel, short travel. Something with a bit of force behind it or extremely light?

[covert oyster]

I want a light press with long travel

[slate lagoon]

What about sound? Aqua Kings are fully polycarbonate so they're very clicky and shallow compared to other linear.

Also with a 67g actuation they're not that light at all compared to others.

[covert oyster]

True

[sleek bronze]

Does it mean that the switch in itself is light ?

Like the whole keyboard is lighter?

[slate lagoon]

In theory, most likely but you're looking at about 2-3g over the entire keyboard. It would be unnoticeable.

[sleek bronze]

Ok

I'd be interested to know that value

But yeah if it's 2g over the whole kb ... Whatever

[steady hatch]

Anyone know why this keeps happening?

I flashed my q1 in qmk tool box and then plugged it into via and now i keep getting this

[spark hatch]

happens to me too, I have no idea why, have you tried reinstalling it?

[steady hatch]

Yeah you have to load the json file and then plug it in try that

worked for me

[spark hatch]

ah

I can acces everything I need but if I go under the lighting tab it breaks via

[steady hatch]

Yeah did that for me for a while

[chrome raft]

how do I lock the fn key on the razer huntsman mini

[spark hatch]

lock as in disable it?

[chrome raft]

no like, lock it in

so i can use f3 + g

[subtle grotto]

like so you dont have to press it all the time?

you cant i believe

[chrome raft]

yeah bc fn + esc dont work

[spark hatch]

you could make a macro to keep it on maybe

[chrome raft]

fixed it

i rebinded one of my keys to f3

[serene cairn]

any suggestions to heavier linear switches without inducing fatique. I used to hate reds because I felt they were too light. Make me mistake prone in typing

Would prefer to feel some resistance while typing. Im currently using the HyperX Aqua

[left barn]

What would y'all suggest as a durable mechanical keyboard with clicky/tactile switches that can take some abuse?

[spark hatch]

What are you doing to your board were you want it so "durable"

[vale mist]

you won't need a durable board unless you're smashing it constantly or play rythm games at a top level

[left barn]

I have a Asus TUF keyboard. I played fps for about a year and now Shift and W have dying blue LEDs

[spark hatch]

I see

whats your budget

[vale grail]

might want to consider a custom keyboard, what kind of money are you working with?

[round silo]

Logitech g613 vs Keychron k10. Which of these 2 do you prefer and why?

[spark hatch]

k10 cause its not shit

[round silo]

is the g613 shitty?

[steady hatch]

K10 you can upgrade

/make it your own

[spark hatch]

yea, I woultn recommend it

[ivory heath]

My switches came in. Was not prepared for how in there these Gaterons are

[spark hatch]

having issues getting them out?

theres 2 clips on the top and bottom of the switch you have to push if bte

[ivory heath]

Yeah. I didn't look the first time I went to grab one and saw them

One came out pretty easy, the next two were tight

[spark hatch]

yea myn were quite tight too, they come out easier after that tho

[ivory heath]

I am absolutely going to buy a non-sucky switch puller lmao