peripherals

[grim lance]

its like 50$ rn

[spark hatch]

rk or k6 would be my main suggestions

[grim lance]

i would go for the k6 if there were white lowprofile keys

[spark hatch]

does come in white actually, and if you didnt know the rk isnt low profile

https://www.keychron.com/collections/low-profile-keyboard-collection/products/keychron-k3-v2-non-backlight-ultra-slim-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-π-edition

[grim lance]

man that singular red escape key though

[spark hatch]

it comes with a white one

[grim lance]

oh fr?

[spark hatch]

yea, here wiat

[grim lance]

okay this changes things entirely lol

[spark hatch]

bottom middle

[grim lance]

whaaaat

[spark hatch]

also comes with a white pi one if you prefer that one more

also that if you're not already looking at product page

[grim lance]

keychron it is then

could you link me to the one youre looking at?

oh im on the keychron website

[spark hatch]

is unfortuneatly out of stock atm but they're usually quite quick at restocking in my experience

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/low-profile-keyboard-collection/products/keychron-k3-v2-non-backlight-ultra-slim-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-π-edition

[grim lance]

perhaps this is a stretch but

is there an rgb version?

maybe that would be in stock?

[spark hatch]

for what ever reason keychorn doesnt have a rgb verson of the board in white? but you can get it in black with rgb

[grim lance]

hmmmmmm

thats so weird lmaoo

the white is definitely ideal

idc too much for rgb

[spark hatch]

you can get white keycaps

[grim lance]

ahhhh yes

[spark hatch]

but you'd still have a black chassis

[grim lance]

thats actually perfect then

[spark hatch]

idk if that would work enough

[grim lance]

i want black and whote

jt works out even better that way

[spark hatch]

here give me a sec, lemma see if I can find low profile caps that are white

[grim lance]

🙏

that would be much appreciated

[spark hatch]

https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32816538223.html

these are probaably white?

[grim lance]

does keychron sell them by chance?

[spark hatch]

oh no, you'll have to get third party unfortuneatly

also would you prefer 75% or 65%

?

[grim lance]

honestly i dont have a preference there

65 just removes numbers right?

[spark hatch]

65% doesnt have the f row

or function keys

[grim lance]

oh yeah thats fine

i never use em anyhow

[spark hatch]

75 is a tkl squished together

[grim lance]

does the keychron have a 65 white with rgb by chance?

👀

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k7-ultra-slim-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39396276797529

for lowprofile they jsut have the one i sent you

[grim lance]

ah

[grim lance]

man its unfortunate they dont just sell their keys

[spark hatch]

it really is they have some pretty nice ones for there c1 and 2 I would love for them to release

[grim lance]

fr

im torn on whether i go black

[spark hatch]

you could go white back light

[rocky bronze]

Hey does anyone know what keycaps the Logitech g512 carbon is compatible with I am looking for a set that’s nicer than the stock ones

[spark hatch]

pretty srue that board isnt replaceable but give me a sec ot take a look

[spark hatch]

yea nvm i was wrong my bad. those are replacable assuming they dont have weird spacing

[odd pier]

Does anyone know where i can buy a keyboard with silent alpaca switches?

[spark hatch]

you'll have to buy them separate

[spark hatch]

what kinda style you want?

[odd pier]

Sad

[spark hatch]

aslong as you get a hot swap board its not that big of a deal

[odd pier]

What could you recommend?

[spark hatch]

keychron keyboards are pretty good for the price

[rocky bronze]

I’m not sure I was thinking like light gray alt wind etc and my be a dark gray everything else

[unkempt dome]

Check the akko website and on Amazon too ... their keycaps are nice

And so are their boards

[grim lance]

oh theres a white with just plain white backlight?

[rocky bronze]

So what is the profile called on them

[unkempt dome]

On the akko keycaps?

Asa usually
They also have some cherry too

[grim lance]

@spark hatch https://www.etsy.com/listing/1168307620/pbt-pudding-keycaps-oem-profile would these work by chance?

[vale mist]

high profile keycaps on a low profile board no

[unkempt dome]

For low profile get xda profile

[grim lance]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1182088783/two-color-keycaps-xda-oem-keycaps-set

would this work?

[unkempt dome]

Those are not xda profile ... those are oem profile

[spark hatch]

kenetic labs seal keycap set maybe?

[vale grail]

trying to find xda or dsa in a good colorway is hella hard

either super weird theme or have some kanji on them 90% of the time

[spark hatch]

have you looked at akko, I think they have xda

[vale grail]

might be worth looking into

[vale grail]

thanks

[spark hatch]

np

[silent oyster]

Anyone know of a low-profile mechanical keyboard with a TrackPoint? TEX rules that space but no low profile options, if they don’t exist I’ll get a Shinobi and call it a day but I was interested in low-profile boards since I’ve never tried one and would love to. Let me know, thanks!

[spark hatch]

I sadly very doubt such a boards existance, at least I've never heard of one

[sleek bronze]

There are people doing them by themselves @spark hatch @silent oyster

That's on my list of projects too

[vestal cosmos]

are there any good hotswap boards with via & a knob that arent too expensive?

[ionic briar]

keychron's q lineup?

[vestal cosmos]

i looked at em

is that a reasonable price for barebones?

$160

[ionic briar]

yea, its very reasonable for the build quality that you get

[vestal cosmos]

alr thx :)

[modest creek]

@spark hatch how is the keychron wireless

is it quick/low latency

[naive pecan]

What is the best keyboard for under 200

Canadian dollars

[chrome raft]

qk65

q2 is also fine

its mostly about preference

q2 has a little for flex

more

qk65 has a deeper sound profile

[unkempt dome]

Q2 is more than 200 cad when you factor in shipping and import fees

You can check akko offering

[chrome raft]

oh

[supple gust]

Q3 has knob, just released recently. Would recommend

[spark hatch]

Bluetooth unfortunately

Bluetooth 5.1 if I'm not mistaken

I dont mind it and can't notice latency (if close to my PC's antenna) but it is Bluetooth and ik it's alot slower than say a 2.4ghz dongle

[spark hatch]

I have one. it's very good for the price, would definitely recommend it

[full hull]

big oof

my Lychee Gaming G80 has 2.4ghz lmoa

[spark hatch]

yea~

[full hull]

60$ barebones btw

kekw

[spark hatch]

I havent seen many boards with a 2.4 actually

[full hull]

Man Keydous must be making bank

[spark hatch]

yea ik

[full hull]

isn't the entire RK series 2.4ghz

Holy shit Keydous NJ80 barebones on drop is like 95$

damn that's a huge markup

Also literally they are so identical that even the FN shortcuts are the same

and the pairing instructions

[spark hatch]

drop marks everything up lmao

[spark hatch]

I believe it does yea

[full hull]

damn literally everyone and their mother is coming out with an MX style switch

[spark hatch]

who made one now?

[full hull]

CIY

[spark hatch]

interesting

am I missing smthn here?

[last plover]

honey.com

[keen nest]

joinhoney.com 😉

[spark hatch]

lmfaoo. yes tyty

[unkempt dome]

Akko board multimode have bluetooth and 2.4ghz

[spark hatch]

ah

i probably have just never payed attention to 2.4 cause I dont really care about wireless

[unkempt dome]

I like wireless ... can switch between the pc and phone on the fly with the akko and durgod fusion

[spark hatch]

yea thats fair, I have one wireless board I use for my phone or laptop otherwise I like to just use my fancy cable

[unkempt dome]

I don't have fancy cable

[spark hatch]

ah

i mean if you use wireless theres really no point to having one anyway

[unkempt dome]

Yes indeed

[onyx oriole]

What is the point of the springy cords you can get for keyboards? Just looks or?

[spark hatch]

they looks nice

[onyx oriole]

Ah

[strange sand]

finaly got my first mech

[modest creek]

@strange sand what'd you get

[strange sand]

drevo tyrfing v2

[modest creek]

What steered you there

[strange sand]

mostly because it was hotswap

[subtle grotto]

is this a price error

[ivory heath]

I see there are no pinned messages, and I've never been in this channel before so I'm probably gonna ask dumb questions.

I really wanna build my own keyboard but I have no idea where to start? I am literally at the level that I don't know what switches I even prefer

[spark hatch]

I'd assume so, that's the ciy website

[spark hatch]

Budget?

[subtle grotto]

its usually selling for $2 per 10 switches

[spark hatch]

Yea

It must have jsut been an error on my end

[subtle grotto]

2 usd i meant

but its factory lubed

[ivory heath]

I would like to keep it under $300, I guess.

I hadn't thought about it before

Definitely want a 75%

[subtle grotto]

what about you start with a lower budget?

[spark hatch]

Well if you wanna go for simplicity akko has some decent kits

[subtle grotto]

or are you firm with the 300 below

imo for beginners much better to not go crazy for the first build

[ivory heath]

I don't care about the budget lmao. I make too much money not to build a nice one, tbh.

[subtle grotto]

oh damn

if so

then you can do that then

[ivory heath]

I may not build 30 different keyboards or be super into it, but I love working with my hands and putting stuff together

I also just know I get annoyed when I ask someone for a budget and they say "no budget" and then say something is too expensive lmao

[spark hatch]

not once you get into the keyboard hobby

[ivory heath]

I have a $1,900 Magic deck

But I bought that over time, not all at once

[subtle grotto]

unless the make an "endgame" first build for themself

[ivory heath]

I'm just no stranger to ridiculously expensive hobbies

[spark hatch]

ah

I mean you said you want 75% theres lots of good options for 75%'s out there

personally am gonna recommend the keychron q1

idobo id80 is also pretty good

[subtle grotto]

idobao you mean hahahaha

[ivory heath]

I looked up the Keychron, I know what Barebone is compared to assembled but what does Barebone ISO mean

[spark hatch]

same difference

[subtle grotto]

the enter key is different and the \ is moved

[spark hatch]

iso is the eu big enter

^^

[ivory heath]

EU

[subtle grotto]

iso

ansi (standard layout)

[ivory heath]

I'd probably just go ANSI

[subtle grotto]

yup ansi is just the default "Barebones" option there

[ivory heath]

I see that they have this as a product image on the Q1 page but the green isn't an option 😭

[spark hatch]

it comes in the fully assembled

[ivory heath]

Ew

[spark hatch]

if you really like the grean you can get the fully assambled and then take it apart to put in your own switchs and caps

[subtle grotto]

but the fully assembled has phantom blues left lol

[ivory heath]

Very odd that you have to pick and choose like that

[subtle grotto]

well for mint green

[spark hatch]

if you're replacing them anyway who cares

[subtle grotto]

ig so

[ivory heath]

Switches are usually cheap, and it's the caps that are expensive right?

[subtle grotto]

oh ill let @spark hatch advice for that

i only use budget caps lol

[spark hatch]

mint green and white are quite new, I think they plan on making them barebones at some point they just have to build stock first

[ivory heath]

Right now I just have a Razer Cynosa and I don't even remember what switches that has

Google is hard

[spark hatch]

really depends, you can get cheap switchs, or expensive ones and vice versa for caps

[subtle grotto]

is it v2?

[spark hatch]

razer has there own in house switches

it'll be greens (clicky) yellows (linear) or orange (tactile)

[ivory heath]

V1? I think the box said Razer Cynosa Chroma

[spark hatch]

well in taht case I found this https://www.ebay.com/itm/234378889646

[ivory heath]

It gets the job done, it doesn't feel bad or anything

Okay maybe I care about the budget 😂

[spark hatch]

lmao

[subtle grotto]

holy shit

LMFAO

[ivory heath]

One big thing is that I need a nice wrist rest

[spark hatch]

what kinda switchs does it have do you know?

[spark hatch]

keychron has really nice palm ones

[ivory heath]

It has to be clicky? It's got clicks

[strange sand]

i use outemu reds, rlly nice tactile presses and smooth actuation

[spark hatch]

if you dont care about like padding, but they're supper nice looking and good feeling

[spark hatch]

alr

[strange sand]

ima tape mod and foam mod my keyboard soon

[subtle grotto]

tactile??

[strange sand]

i meaht linear

srry

[subtle grotto]

oh alr alr

[spark hatch]

do you like/want the click or do you just want the bump?

or do you want to go linear, no bump at all?

[strange sand]

^

[ivory heath]

I'm an idiot

Back up

I have the Ornata Chroma

My bad

[subtle grotto]

@spark hatch i think you've said keychron a lot lately...

[spark hatch]

uh

shhhhhhhh

I just happen to know there boards really well ok

[ivory heath]

[strange sand]

nice

tbh i dont rlly like razer bc u cant mod them

[ivory heath]

I like the sort of resistance this has?

[strange sand]

and there not hot swap

[spark hatch]

thats fine, doesnt make much of a difference

[ivory heath]

And I know I like clicky noises from videos that I've seen

[spark hatch]

do you like the sound of this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/919720016285429770/956440991135576094/20220324_003133.mp4?size=4096

or

this

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/as3U80ECUwI

[ivory heath]

This

[spark hatch]

ok those are click bar clickies, that means they click once on the down stroke and once on the upstroke

[ivory heath]

Oh man the green Q1 is sold out. I didn't even notice.

But yeah, I like the noise a lot from the first one. The 2nd one's spacebar was a lil weird

[spark hatch]

not for me?

[ivory heath]

It was not updating with the switch selection

Crisis averted

So, with the clickies, is that the switch name or are there different brands and what not

[spark hatch]

thats dependants on the board more than the switch

[ivory heath]

I feel like, now that I'm actually on my PC, I want something that'll provide some good noise, decent resistance, and a good quick motion straight back up

[spark hatch]

theres different brands and kinds of clickies

left. box white - used in the first video
right. smthn blue (similar to mx blues and phantom blues)

also I dont think the smthn blue is actually heavier than the box white but all my blues are spring swapped and idk where I put the origonal springs so

[ivory heath]

I definitely like the noise of the white better

[spark hatch]

alr, now do you want a heavier or lighter bump? the whites are probably just alittle lighter of a bump than the blues just bases on me clicking them

but if you want a louder click or stronger tactility (the bump you feel) you can get smthn like box jades or box navies

[ivory heath]

I think the bump is where the resistance is, right?

I'd rather have a heavy bump

[spark hatch]

yea, alr I'd go for box jades or box navies

[ivory heath]

So the Navy has a stronger bump?

Just looking at this

[spark hatch]

uhm I'll have to take a look

[spark hatch]

what it might sound like in q1*

q is a box white and w is penguin (not clicky)

[spark hatch]

it looks like the navy just has a stronger spring

while the jade you only need 70

I would personally opt for the jade its still very tactile and would my a safer route

90 grams is pretty heavy and might make your fingers fatigued

[ivory heath]

Reasonable

[spark hatch]

and now for keycaps, do you like the ones that'll come stock with the q1 or would you prefer some fancier ones?

[chrome raft]

navys are probably like the most annoying sounding switch

well nothing is actually more annoying then seeing someone say the word 'thock' over and over

[ivory heath]

I love these caps but they're sold out

[chrome raft]

ok

[spark hatch]

they said they liked clickies so I gave them clicky options, I think they liked the sound of jades anyways

[ivory heath]

thanks bro

welcome to the conversation that we've been having for the last hour, how are you today

[chrome raft]

i would recommend box whites or jades

[spark hatch]

thock is so over rated, its just getting over used by all the new people entering the hobby

[spark hatch]

yea

[chrome raft]

ikr

[chrome raft]

decently decent

[spark hatch]

I only have whites so thats what I showed

[chrome raft]

ok

[spark hatch]

uhm give me a sec I might know smthn similar

[boreal rivet]

Navy and jade's have the same clickbar

[spark hatch]

they do

[chrome raft]

ik that there are like 100 different keycap sets that have the same font

[unkempt dome]

I have white and navy ... navy sound delightful with SA profile keycaps

[boreal rivet]

Just difference in spring weight

[unkempt dome]

Jade have the white spring

[spark hatch]

thanks for the input

[spark hatch]

yea, much heavier

[slate lagoon]

Looking for some advice. I currently have Corsair stuff.. for everything. But my current keyboard isn't individually lit keys. What's a good upgrade? Also does iCue have any game support? I know my friends Logitech has loads of game support compared to iCue.

[ivory heath]

I wonder if there are 100 options with the font and color scheme

[chrome raft]

size budget?

i mean size and budget

[chrome raft]

ok

[spark hatch]

waht region are you?

[slate lagoon]

Full size. Budget is whatever the best is currently. Its only really used for gaming and social media.

[ivory heath]

NA

US Specifically

[unkempt dome]

Unicorn it is then

[spark hatch]

all I needed to know

[slate lagoon]

Actually i could do away with Num keys if needed.

[chrome raft]

yeah no there aren't 100 sets that have the same colour scheme or font

i was just exaggerating that there are a lot of keycaps with that font

[chrome raft]

do you have any specific feature you want/need

[slate lagoon]

Honestly just individual key RGB... and whatever has the best game support for RGB themes etc.

[spark hatch]

so theres directly from keychron which would save you from shipping: https://www.keychron.com/collections/q1-q2-k2-oem-dye-sub-pbt-keycap-set

akko has some funky designs: https://akkogear.de/collections/keycap

these are really nice: https://kineticlabs.store/

or you can get cheaper keycaps from some other places

sorry for teh chat wall kinda forgot those were all gonna embed

oh hey these exist https://www.amazon.ca/Profile-Keycaps-Double-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B08T9GDHRJ/ref=sr_1_7?crid=2MSLMOAMIWG0M&keywords=green+keycaps&qid=1649376287&sprefix=green+keycaps%2Caps%2C256&sr=8-7

[chrome raft]

i doubt any good keyboard will have gave support for rgb

game

[spark hatch]

via boards do

oh

nvm

[ivory heath]

I'm really not worried about price, if I have to set aside some money to get everything I will. I just want something solid that will feel and sound as good as it looks.

[slate lagoon]

I know Logitech has loads of RGB game support. But corsair seems to have none.

[chrome raft]

ngl probably the most closed-source keyboard software feature

[slate lagoon]

In fact the only game i've known to work with Corsair is Mortal Kombat.

[spark hatch]

well I was just throwing it out there

[ivory heath]

And I appreciate you

[spark hatch]

https://novelkeys.com/collections/keycaps

OH HEY

[ivory heath]

Novelkeys was the first result when I was looking up the switches

[spark hatch]

I just found it lmao

https://novelkeys.com/collections/keycaps/products/sa-jadeite

[slate lagoon]

Oh and Razer keyboards have loads of support but I find they feel a bit cheap

[ivory heath]

Mommy

I just love the basic green gradient

I dunno

But I also love this
https://akkogear.de/en/collections/keycap/products/black-cyan-keycap-set197-key

[chrome raft]

if you can solder you could upgrade any razer or logitech mech keeb

[spark hatch]

razer boards are trash, but just as all oem boards are so you you want game sync that bad you might have to settle with it

[slate lagoon]

Well i don't want it. But if i'm going to upgrade it would be nice to have it.

[chrome raft]

at that point you should just aim for the board with the pcb that has the best game support

[spark hatch]

akko makes nice caps if you're alr with higher profiles

[spark hatch]

q1 comes stock with oem profile, and most other cap sets use cherry profile

[slate lagoon]

So putting game link aside what current mechanical keyboards are the current go to? Without going down the Corsair, Logi, Razer route. Its been a few years since I last looked into things.

[chrome raft]

ok so what

[spark hatch]

i'd go with a keychron q3

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q3-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard

[chrome raft]

ok nice very usfull information

[slate lagoon]

I love the look of these. I take it these are what people use when they have custom caps?

[ivory heath]

Any of these things I'm looking at from Akko that I like, won't match with that mint green body that I want

[spark hatch]

alot of people leave these caps stock if you like the look, they're very nice stock keycaps

[spark hatch]

I mean I did find the emerald set if that is idealy what you want

[ivory heath]

Right!

[spark hatch]

I was just throwing othe options at you

[ivory heath]

How reliable is ApexKeyboards?

They have the alphas for that Jadeite cap set I found

[spark hatch]

they're the best oem board but I only recommend it as a last resort

[ivory heath]

I mostly mean as a retailer lmao

https://www.apexkeyboards.com/products/sa-jadeite?variant=36238067499168

[spark hatch]

oh

I see

[ivory heath]

They aren't their keycaps

[spark hatch]

I cant say ive heard of them but looks legit

[chrome raft]

if you have a lot of money you might want to check out the mode 80 or glacier80 but im pretty sure they are out of stock and also very expensive if you can get them

[ivory heath]

I can already tell you they're overcharging lmao

NovelKeys has the Jadeite Alphas for $55, Apex has them for $85

And then neither of them have the modifier keys

So F

[boreal rivet]

SP is expensive

[slate lagoon]

Holy sh... $408 for a keyboard. What makes it so expensive?

[boreal rivet]

clout, big heavy weight and SouND!!!!

[spark hatch]

pretty much yea

[slate lagoon]

Sound as in more clicky than a red mech? Or a very quiet red mech?

[spark hatch]

look at it this way, only 400, my current board is 500$

[slate lagoon]

Weight is always good.

[spark hatch]

differnt kind of sound

[boreal rivet]

if it helps you cope then yeah

[slate lagoon]

... loads up youtube

[spark hatch]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/as3U80ECUwI

all about how it sounds and feels

[slate lagoon]

Sounds awesome.

[ivory heath]

@spark hatch Monokei ring any bells, o keyboard guru?

[spark hatch]

I think iv'e heard of it before but I've never lookied into them

[ivory heath]

They seem to still have my happy caps in stock

I only need Alphas and Mods with a 75%, right?

Just want to make sure

[spark hatch]

yea

im pretty sure

[spark hatch]

where are you seeing these?

oh wait I might have figured it out

[ivory heath]

https://store.monokei.co/collections/current/products/sa-jadeite

[spark hatch]

idk how I couldnt find that but alr cool

[ivory heath]

Pain

[spark hatch]

welcome to custom keyboards

[ivory heath]

I took a deep breath and sent it

-$175

[chrome raft]

pcb flex, a lot of replacement parts, nice deep sound profile, shiny AF brass weight, extremely heavy

[spark hatch]

lmao, q1?

[ivory heath]

They're just so nice

I still haven't bought the Q1

[spark hatch]

ah, those were the caps

[chrome raft]

what board are u using

[ivory heath]

Yeah

[spark hatch]

q1

[ivory heath]

I honestly don't know if I'm sold on the Q1 yet

[spark hatch]

500$ cad*

idk what that works out to usd

[spark hatch]

fair enough

[chrome raft]

the most impressive part of ur build is how u can turn a q1 into a 500 dollar build

[slate lagoon]

Keychron Q1?

[spark hatch]

well including shipping not really

[ivory heath]

I know you love Keychron, but are there other 75% bodies that you'd recommend, preferably green

Maybe something with weight that's a lil tall

[spark hatch]

75% is pretty popular theres lots of options, idobao id80 is pretty popular

idk if it has a green option tho

[ivory heath]

That was the other brand you mentioned

[spark hatch]

it was

[chrome raft]

kbdfans75v3.1

ik it comes in a lot of colours

its top mount

[spark hatch]

OH

leoplold makes really nice boards too

I forget who sells them but they're pretty nice

[spark hatch]

also pretty nice, basic design tho, doesnt really stand out in any way

[chrome raft]

yeah ik

[spark hatch]

just pointing it out

[chrome raft]

for some reason why does everyone want a gasket mounted keeb

like reviewers make it seem like gasket is the superior mount

when actually, everythings preferencw

e

[boreal rivet]

clout

no gasket means your keyboard is bad

not flexy means your keyboard is bad

if you dont use inks or the latest jwk recolor your keyboard is bad

[chrome raft]

lmao

[slate lagoon]

Yeah I don't get flex? With every single pc component. Flex is usually a bad thing. I don't get why its a good think on a keyboard

thing

[chrome raft]

its pcb flex

pcb flex is good

not housing flex

[boreal rivet]

because it feels and sounds good or whatever

pcb flex is not good

ever

[chrome raft]

flex gives you a generally more enjoyable typing expirience

[ivory heath]

I think the Q1 is really going to be my best option, at least from what I've seen. Looked at Leopold but did not see a color that worked for me

[chrome raft]

if you hate hard bottom outs

[boreal rivet]

the level of flex i've seen on some of these is ridiculous

[chrome raft]

ok sure

[ivory heath]

thanks, bud

[chrome raft]

lmao glacier80

[slate lagoon]

GPU flex is never good. So basically flex gives it a cushion. So you're not bashing through your desk

[chrome raft]

also doesnt make your fingers feel like theyre bashing onto aluminum

[boreal rivet]

slight flex is enough

[slate lagoon]

But i guess some people like that feel. If you didn't just go to a membrane keyboard lol

[spark hatch]

also 🌟 Marketing 🌟

[boreal rivet]

the ones that depress over a centimetre are just stupid

[chrome raft]

some people like it

[slate lagoon]

I just found one with adjustable dynamic keys. You can adjust where they work from 0.5mm to 4mm.

[boreal rivet]

optical

[chrome raft]

im pretty sure it actually wouldn't feel horrible

[boreal rivet]

it would for me

[chrome raft]

please dont buy

i dont recommend

[boreal rivet]

i had the original idb60

[chrome raft]

ok

[boreal rivet]

wanted to like it because pngu was my friend

[slate lagoon]

I wouldn't I see no point in that sort of adjustment unless you're a typist.

[boreal rivet]

but it wasnt my thing

[spark hatch]

I like it, it feels softer on bottom outs

[boreal rivet]

get rubberdome lol

[slate lagoon]

Why i'd want it to activate at 4mm and deactivate at 2mm i'll never know. I press a key and depress a key i don't need keys i can half press haha

[ivory heath]

The Q1 is also $30 in shipping 🙂

[boreal rivet]

the q1 is also made of metal

not sure what you expected

[chrome raft]

same lol

[ivory heath]

You're so sweet

[boreal rivet]

thank you

[spark hatch]

ehem, once again, welcome to custom keyboards

[strange sand]

lmfao

[slate lagoon]

Was cheaper to ship my 3070Ti lmao. Not sure how heavy that keyboard is.. but i like it

[ivory heath]

Everything is fine, PayPal is my friend

[spark hatch]

theyr'e keycaps also had 30$ shipping lmoa

[boreal rivet]

oh lol sad

reminds me of drop intl shipping

[ivory heath]

I never tried PayPal's "pay in 4" thing

[chrome raft]

you should expirience gmk group buys

[spark hatch]

I didnt know taht axisted

[ivory heath]

so that makes it feel a lil less rough

[boreal rivet]

i have

[slate lagoon]

Just splits the payment over 4 months. I've done it with a few things

[spark hatch]

yea

[boreal rivet]

i stopped with that bs once wait time got too long

although i do have two sets on order to flip to some software dev suckers

[chrome raft]

ok

[ivory heath]

What's that fancy ass coiled cable that everyone gets with their keyboards

[chrome raft]

yeah

cablemod

[spark hatch]

q1 comes stock with one

[ivory heath]

God bless

[spark hatch]

I dont think they've removed it for q1 yet

its not a super nice one, but its not bad

if you did was a good one cable mod has pre made ones for like 50~$ or fully custom for 120$~

[boreal rivet]

make it yourself for 30 dollars with a cylinder, hairdryer and soldering iron

[spark hatch]

meh

if it still comes stock with one they wont need to

Im 90% sure it does

[ivory heath]

I am $405 in the hole so I will manage with a "not super nice" one for now

Also @spark hatch thank you for your help

[spark hatch]

it does have one

so no worries

[ivory heath]

what tools do I need for this

[spark hatch]

o

0

[boreal rivet]

.

[spark hatch]

that comes with the q1

[ivory heath]

I meant to pull everything from the Q1 and get my new stuff back in

I assume it's not easy with my meat grabbers

[spark hatch]

idk if it'll be green tho? it'll either be white or black

[boreal rivet]

q1 is hotswap iirc?

[spark hatch]

comes with a switch and keycap puller so you shouldnt need anything

[ivory heath]

Hell yeah

[spark hatch]

if you wanted to mod it I think it might also come with its own screw driver bit I'd have to go check

[spark hatch]

np glad to help

[chrome raft]

aviator cables arent even the most expensive one...

[spark hatch]

the most expensive out fo what? I dont follow

[chrome raft]

theres a connector thats more expensive then aviator

the cable

the custom cable connector

[boreal rivet]

lemo

those are used for industrial purposes and medicine

[spark hatch]

ohh I see yea

[boreal rivet]

you can also use hirose

[chrome raft]

cherry hirose orange switches?

[boreal rivet]

understandable

but no

hirose connectors

[chrome raft]

ok

[chrome raft]

im talking about the slimline one

[spark hatch]

yea ik

[chrome raft]

Yo

I’m building a keyboard and I was wondering if anyone knew what switches were the most quiet

[vale mist]

basically any linear silent variation will do

[chrome raft]

Is there a big difference between mx silent reds and mx silent blacks?

[eager frost]

so I came across the moonlander KB, and then I found out James did a video about it
i wonder if he is still using it lol

[vale mist]

silent blacks may be quieter because you end up bottoming out with less force since the spring is stronger

but that's only going to matter if you bottom out everything like I do

[chrome raft]

I tend to press the keys hard if that’s what you mean lmao

[grim lance]

@spark hatch keychron is still outta stock so ive been lookin around a bit more, is thisany good? https://fnatic.com/products/streak-65-lp-ultra-fast-low-profile-gaming-keyboard-white

[spark hatch]

I've never heard of them, see if theres any reviews of them

[strange sand]

holy

405 dollar keyb dammmmmmmmmmm

[grim lance]

the reviews overall seem very positive

[spark hatch]

thats not that bad

[strange sand]

yeah for a custom keyboard

[spark hatch]

for a high end full custom one

[strange sand]

yeah

[spark hatch]

but for a q1 build that pretty high

[full hull]

pretty average keyboard

[grim lance]

worth the price?

apparently there are switches that have adjustable actuation distance

[strange sand]

isnt that the steelseries one

[spark hatch]

they're shit

[strange sand]

mhm

overpriced

tbh

[grim lance]

those switches you mean?

[strange sand]

no the keyboards that have adjustable actualtion distance

[grim lance]

why do you think so?

[strange sand]

i dunn... its a nice feature but for the premium its not worth it, at least in my opinion

[grim lance]

hm

man its so hard to find what im lookin for

[boreal rivet]

tell us

then maybe we can help

[spark hatch]

white, lowprofile, wireless

and there might be another requirment they wanted but i cant remember it

[boreal rivet]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-se-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

paint it white or something

[grim lance]

already considered

[ivory heath]

How are you gonna suggest it and then judge me 😭

My caps already shipped though

[spark hatch]

not judging, my q1 build is 500$

[strange sand]

sheeesh

[slate lagoon]

I can't find a Q1 not with UK layout anyway. I don't think they sell them over here for some strange reason

[spark hatch]

you mean iso?

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q1

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q1?variant=39406902444121

those are the 2 layouts

oh wait you wanted the q3

[slate lagoon]

They're not UK layouts. They don't seem to do it for the Q1

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/custom-keyboards/products/keychron-q3-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39773519282265

thats iso

[slate lagoon]

This is all I can get over here.

[spark hatch]

barebones iso

iso keycaps

k2 is pretty good option too tho

[grim lance]

why cant they just sell the white low profile caps separately? 😔

[echo brook]

has anyone ever ran an LED strip inside their laptop ?

[spark hatch]

wrong channel but why the fuck would I do that

[echo brook]

to have light for your * keyboard *

[slate lagoon]

I just used to own a laptop with backlit keys

[echo brook]

i kinda wanna do it so i can back light it for $10 instead of a whole new laptop

[spark hatch]

its not gonna glow very much if at all but ig go for it

[slate lagoon]

bro.. just turn on the light to your room. Much easier option. Or grab a USB RGB strip

I went a totally different way with my keyboard choices. Ordered an RK61.. foam, felt sound dampener, sunzit stabilizers, lube for the red switches (until I decide on what switches to go for) and all the tools to mod it. £125 all in. Be a huge upgrade from this Corsair K55 🤣

[spark hatch]

good choice

[grim lance]

ah so you like the rk61?

[slate lagoon]

I wondered what switches were in this K55 so i pulled a key off. Its just membrane spill resistant rubber pads. 🤣

[slate lagoon]

I did some research on what was a good 60% wireless keyboard to mod. This came up as one of the top ones.

[grim lance]

interesting

did you use it stock at all?

[slate lagoon]

Nah i've just ordered it. But I also ordered all the things this guy recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzMdB_VKdNo

He shows stock vs moded at the end. Only thing I haven't ordered is the switches he uses. Only because im not sure on what switch to go for.

Oh and the keycaps and cable.. my setup is all white so i'll leave them for now.

[spark hatch]

its all preference, waht kind of switch do you like?

[slate lagoon]

I've had Cherry red in the past and love them. I think the reds lubed up would probably be my preference so i'll find out.

[spark hatch]

idk verymuch about linears but ik theres much better linear options than those and for cheaper

[grim lance]

what would be the lowest actuation distance?

[slate lagoon]

I like the look of the glorious panda switches but i'd need to try some before buying. I might get a load from amazon and see what feels/sounds the best

[spark hatch]

ah

[sterile sentinel]

Hey, does anyone know where online/what keyswitches I could buy. I want a linear keyswitch with a high activation forcr and north facing LED holes. I know I am being specific, but I am just trying to mod my keyboard for fun and I cannot find anything.

[swift forge]

I mean what direction does your house face geographically speaking? True North will probably be very hard to mill into a keycap most likely if tailored specifically to the geographical compass direction in contrast to the way your dwelling faces

I'm mostly a gaming kb switch geek so I'll just exit

[spark hatch]

You want seitches or a keyboard?

[swift forge]

switches*

[spark hatch]

Oh oops

[swift forge]

he wants switches

[spark hatch]

That's what I assumed but then they mention nortfacing LEDs, that's dependants on the board

[swift forge]

well I know this probably doesn't help since Razer doesn't sell their switches in packs, but the Razer Analog Linear Optical switch is 50gf operating force, 56gf actuation compared to usual 36gf/40gf figures

just a fun fact 🤷‍♂️

[spark hatch]

idk why you would want razer switches but ok

[swift forge]

well I mean the Razer Pro Type isn't that bad a keyboard if we're talking productivity

[spark hatch]

idk much about linears but if you want a really high actuation force and cant find any get gateron yellows and sping swap them

[swift forge]

though it is annoying given that even Logitech sells replacement switches that Razer doesn't do the same - though sure Razer has a ton of different switches used for different keyboards

its a pain to remember the switch type for every Razer kb I know

[spark hatch]

nono it is, why would you get that, theres much better options

[swift forge]

forgot the one for the Pro Type tbh 🗿

[spark hatch]

razer and logictech do not make good boards idk were your coming from saying they are

[swift forge]

well if you get used to Duckys and Gaterons I can understand why gaming kbs seem crappy

the build quality and switch keycap type, yeah :p

ABS is not even half as nice as PBT for sure

And most gaming boards don't offer hotswap abilities as well, though thats starting to change gradually

[spark hatch]

gateron doesnt make keyboard, they make switches, but thats my point why would you get a razer or logic when you can get way better

[spark hatch]

thats preferance

[swift forge]

what are you suggesting

[spark hatch]

the "best" and most prased keycaps are abs

[swift forge]

well doubleshot sure, but screw the ones on the Logitech G815 and G915 series

[spark hatch]

razer and logitech dont make good keyboards. they only seem good till you see the other options and get past the marketing bullshit

[swift forge]

they are what I'm used to, but combined with the low profile switches and abs keycaps I have to type below my average WPM sometimes to avoid making errors

[spark hatch]

oh yea they're shit

only high end abs is nice to use

I was just saying neither plastic overall superior, they both have there perks and falls

[swift forge]

lmao, Razer Huntsman Mini though I do need the 1000hz polling, and low actuation force Razer Purples, plus the 60% size since my 100% G815 is a space hogger

but I do use control software often and Razer Synapse ≠ macOS compatibility

I'm only with Logitech since they are the most reliable for macOS gamers and there aren't many switch control issues, sensor inaccuracies, product defects etc reported for their trusted gaming products like the Pro X series of merchandise and their gaming keyboards that are more high-end than the G413 series (G512 + G513, G910 Orion, G815, G915 etc)

[spark hatch]

ok, hunts man is a very shitty board for the price and theres better options but if thats what you prefer Im not gonna try and change your mind.

also you're coming from a tourney player perspective im coming from enthusiast and average gamer perspective. you give a shit about the 1000hz pulling, I just see it as marketing bullshit

[swift forge]

I might get a Corsair keyboard soon, like the Corsair K70 TKL since its TKL, software macOS-compatible, 8000hz ultrapolling, still retains media keys despite the shrunken size

[spark hatch]

if you want mac support get a via board

or keychron has good mac implementation

[swift forge]

well true, I can still excel in Krunker and similar with 500hz polling, but its nice to have a higher max polling rate since it usually means better movement tracking [mouse] and keypress detection [kb] i.e. its more accurate

tbh thats probably not the point of higher DPI figures and polling rates, but I do see commonly high DPI sensors = more accurate and higher polling rate kbs = lower keypress latency

[swift forge]

no RGB I'd guess, and media keys extracted

[spark hatch]

imo I dont think keyboards matter, mice are the only thing that really affect your performance. I perform no worse or better if im on my 500$ kb or my 2005 apple keyboard

[swift forge]

tournament mode switches are also more handy than you think lol

[spark hatch]

has rgb, fn f11 and f12

[swift forge]

me playing Asphalt 9 as semi-competitive kid ;-;

I tried it on my Apple Magic mouse and kb, the latency figures are higher than my esteem

[spark hatch]

yea, dont use the mouse

but the boards fine

[swift forge]

and every time I execute a drift I have to restart it like 7 times and lag behind other multiplayer participants a lot

no, the board is the main source of my errors :p

thats what all the controls are practically mapped on for A9

the mouse I just macro program to send emojis when racing or toggle my camera perspective

and timing isn't such an essential factor for that

[spark hatch]

you must have a bad bluetooth connection then, acouple ms of latency shouldnt affect your performance that much if at all

if youre a tourney player fine ig if the lower latency makes you feel better go for it but I dont believe it gives any real benifit past a certain point, all modern keyboards are already fast enough its not noticeable by the human eye, why do you need to go faster than that? seems like deminishing returns to me. I'd much rather have a nice board than a shitty one with 8000hz polling.

[swift forge]

well sure I'm not gonna utilise the topmost config of polling but according to my findings, higher typically means more accurate

[spark hatch]

Ok

[swift forge]

interesting how you lurk in this channel a lot

[spark hatch]

Idk I like keyboards and know alot about them

[swift forge]

its not an insult, more so that you're more intelligible in the keyboard field of tech than most others albeit less in other sectors ||joke don't mutilate me||

[spark hatch]

I lurk in pc hardware alot too but I've only built one computer so I don't feel comfortable suggesting people things in there

[swift forge]

I've built nothing really, I just follow along with my memory of my tech research notes and learn new things everyday even if they're the most subtle

I also almost got myself expelled out of my school for figuring something out that a hacker could use to their advantage

[spark hatch]

Ik alot about computers aswell but I don't like recommending people things I don't have personal experience with and with one of build I don't have much to recommend

[swift forge]

Why the near-expulsion? Ik that if I bring an Ethernet wire to school and plug it into my MacBook Pro I just need to type in the IPv4 address and I can compromise the cybersecurity system by connecting

[grim lance]

i am eternally in pain

[swift forge]

since its only designed to restrict wifi users, not literal wired internet

[spark hatch]

N I c e

[grim lance]

LOL

[swift forge]

plus I can change the connection of a school PC to manual - which means I can, for example, type in the IPv4 address of another domain and send a trojan from there

[grim lance]

yeah thats honestly dumb

[swift forge]

they didn't lock that

and me being able to find the Ethernet settings for the school PCs is of unrestricted access in terms of the page in Settings

I know the credentials of the IP addresses, the DNS servers, subnet masks now of the school's Ethernet system

I emailed it to myself

[spark hatch]

You could get a 5$ white amazon keyboard

[grim lance]

5$?

[spark hatch]

Eh probably more like 10~

[grim lance]

im just like

[spark hatch]

Just they're cheap membrane boards, I was joking lmao

[swift forge]

I think if the IT admins find out about my mailing of the school ethernet system, I will have a good meeting with the principal next Monday

[grim lance]

all they had to do was sell the white keycaps independently

[swift forge]

but then I can pull a "court" case of spying without authorised permission on personal texts sent over school software

[grim lance]

i think im gonna go for the black k3

altho i have another question

[spark hatch]

Wait

Have you looked at rk61

[spark hatch]

Whatcha got

[grim lance]

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwjZ6KDO4oP3AhV8DK0GHXUkBQIYABAHGgJwdg&sig=AOD64_1-5X2kRPtrlAhe_uHMdDeQyC9ETQ&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwi9yJnO4oP3AhWxPH0KHQ5rBiIQwg96BAgBEAs&adurl=

rk61 is tempting

[spark hatch]

Oh wait I also jsut remembered it's not low profile ooos

Oops

Sorry it's getting late hare my brain is obviously not working lmao

[grim lance]

nah thats ight

[spark hatch]

It's a good board

[grim lance]

ive considered the rk61 quite a bit

my main question with the air75 is just

[spark hatch]

I think there was acouple caviots people didn't like but I can't remember what they were, they weren't big thi

[grim lance]

can i find white keycaps 💀

or grey ones even

i really

why do they do orange and yellow keys

who is this for?

[spark hatch]

If I remember it was the non flipable feet for different typing angle, and smthn else but I can't remember the other thing

[spark hatch]

Cause it looks "cool"

[grim lance]

it looks so bad 💀

[spark hatch]

I do agree tho it kinda looks dumb

I like the blue one tho

[grim lance]

in what world does that ever look decent

[spark hatch]

But I like blue so I'm bias there

[grim lance]

the blue isnt 3 different colors tbf

4*

wtf is that escape key lmao

[spark hatch]

True

[grim lance]

i still cant fit that into my build aesthetically

i respect it

[spark hatch]

Accent keys look good of they're all the same

[grim lance]

but i just want all my keys to be 1 color 😭

[spark hatch]

You can get cherry profile keycaps

They're not that bad on low profile boards, Infact I personally prefer them, more economic

[grim lance]

hm

but then i may as well buy the kludge right?

[full hull]

Corsair PBT Pro

[grim lance]

are they lowprofile? 👁️👁️

[full hull]

oh no they are not

[grim lance]

ah dang

[spark hatch]

Not nesisarilly, it would still be pretty low profile

Necessarily

It would be taller than standard but not as tall as kludge, and you would still have the lowprofilebseiches which have the lower travel distance

[grim lance]

wait so

do you mean DSA/XDA?

or am i still hotswapping the switches as well as the keys

https://pimpmykeyboard.com/g20-glacier-keyset-sublimated/

could i do something like that?

[boreal rivet]

no one makes keycaps for lowpro switches outside of ortho layouts

[ivory heath]

hi

[charred garden]

i've heard so much thrash about brown switches but i actually like them. feel smooth and not as loud

[trail lava]

Does using a coiled cable affect the input lag of keyboard?

I've been using the default Type C that came with my keyboard, been thinking of buying a custom cable but still worried about it

[ionic briar]

prob comes from the "tactile" label that cherry put on em when its not really that tactile

[ionic briar]

prob no effect ngl

[charred garden]

I like the sound they have

[chrome raft]

wait why r u worried though

[slate lagoon]

no

[silent oyster]

Does it not come with gray ones as well? I honestly don’t know but I would assume/hope it does 😅

[chrome raft]

https://nuphy.com/collections/shop

[silent oyster]

Oof that’s kind of a cool keyboard though, seems like they’re coming out with “twilight” keycaps which I assume will be a normal color? Lol

How does that compare to a competing option from Keychron?

Though honestly my laptop keyboard is pretty good, it’s the optical clicky Blade

[chrome raft]

nope

still some accents

[silent oyster]

Lmaoo

[chrome raft]

you probably should get a real keeb

[chrome raft]

theyre similar

idk if the keycrhon is hotswap though

[silent oyster]

Yeah Tex Shinobi is what I’m leaning towards, tried it in-store the other day and it was pretty nice. Not the biggest fan of the keycap profile but they do look really cool lol, also not familiar with others with a nice TrackPoint built-in

[chrome raft]

oh ok

yeah that one of like 5 keebs like a trackpoint

if thats ur priotiry go for it

you can also get a yoda ii or a kodachi

all of those keebs have a trackpoint as well

[strange sand]

Dam lucky

U should mod ur keyboard

It's gon make it thoccier and feel better when it comes

[chrome raft]

sto[ saying thockier

stop

[strange sand]

Ok chill bruh

U so pressed 💀

[chrome raft]

https://www.theremingoat.com/blog/what-the-thock-is-clack-a-discussion-on-switch-sound

read this

[strange sand]

Ok...

Kewl

[trail lava]

Worries rhe input lag gets bad, sorry bad english

[ivory heath]

Why are you so aggressive

[slate lagoon]

The man doesn't like a thock. Its very over used at this point and has no real meaning when it comes to keyboards anymore. You can get a thock.. but there aren't different levels of thock.

[ivory heath]

I'm just not sure I see the point in being a baby about it on the internet

[unkempt dome]

So from what I read ... tecsee carrot have a lower volume, lower pitch and deeper sound than the gateron yellow

[strange sand]

Exactly bruhike why do they care about terminology so much 💀

[unkempt dome]

it's kinda nice to be able to put more precise word on switch sound than just vaguely say thock

it's the same when you describe headphone or speaker sound

Nice to have a good terminology

[strange sand]

kewl

[ivory heath]

What a thocking development

[strange sand]

lmao

bro this 45 dollar keyboard dedas feels like a razer when i modded it yesteday

tape mod and foam mod worked so well

[slate lagoon]

but how would you take a word like "thockier"? You've either got a thock or you havent.

[strange sand]

i mean if its a deep sound ig

[slate lagoon]

felt like a razer before modding right? Because Razers feel cheap and nasty.

[strange sand]

ok fr

but now after modding it sounds good, is very stable, aint rattly, and doesnt feel 45 dollars

[slate lagoon]

Then it feels much better than a razer keyboard haha. I've just ordered an RK61, with stabilisers, foam, tape, lube.. the whole lot. Can't wait to get it all together

[strange sand]

wow nice!

Im gonna do bandaid mod and clip my stabs soon

[slate lagoon]

luckily the stabs i've ordered have flat bottoms already saves me a job. I'll do the bandaid mod on them though.

[strange sand]

yeah

[subtle grotto]

i dont recommend bandaid mod imo

it makes my stabs feel mushy and i dont quite like it but thats jsut my opinion

[strange sand]

Yeah thats what makes rhe keyboard thock

[chrome raft]

switches with a thick, dull bottoming out sound

[chrome raft]

bruh stop saying thock lmao

[slate lagoon]

Yeah.. but how can it be thockier than thock. lmao

[chrome raft]

define thock

[strange sand]

https://tenor.com/view/relax-calm-down-chillax-chill-out-ishaaron-ishaaron-mein-gif-14442942

[subtle grotto]

no seriously

nothings wrong with thock but overusing it is just fucking shit

?!>!>!>!??!?

[strange sand]

Kewl ig

[strange sand]

Oh shi

That's rlly sus

[subtle grotto]

thock is a deep sound signature

[strange sand]

I deleted it

[chrome raft]

exactly thats the problem

its way too subjective

[strange sand]

Mhm

[chrome raft]

the word 'thock' is way too subjective and undefined

work

[subtle grotto]

imo

[chrome raft]

word

[strange sand]

But what's a better more universal term

[subtle grotto]

deep sound signature

[strange sand]

That's less subjective

[subtle grotto]

high pitch

[strange sand]

Ah

[subtle grotto]

something like that

[chrome raft]

why do you want a universal term

every switch is different

[strange sand]

True

So deep sound signature is good

For a "thock"

[subtle grotto]

preference lmao

[chrome raft]

thick, dull bottoming out sounds are also very good

[chrome raft]

yeah

[strange sand]

Yeah, thanks

[subtle grotto]

hey ill say it i like a marbly keyboard

[strange sand]

K

[chrome raft]

define marbly

[subtle grotto]

this is my opinion and its very subjective but something like this

[chrome raft]

its just a low-volume, low-pitched, smooth sound with a thick and dull bottom out

sounds like a nylon housing

switch housing

[subtle grotto]

gat milky yellowzzz

[unkempt dome]

From the description I think that nylon would be best for me

[slate lagoon]

This sort of adult material belongs right here.

[strange sand]

Ye

[strange sand]

Lmfao

Imma get some outemu browns for my keyb later and save the reds

[ivory heath]

I think my car just made a thock

[chrome raft]

how does a car do that

[ivory heath]

By thocking

I drive a Mini Cooper, anything is possible.

[spark hatch]

Yes the coil adds 5ms of input lag.

*No it doesn't, It'll be no faster or slower than stock

[spark hatch]

I don't think so

[spark hatch]

It is

[slate lagoon]

ahh not a thock.. it was a thud.

[spark hatch]

speed bump sounds

[ivory heath]

No officer I haven't hit anything all day

[chrome raft]

ok

[trail lava]

Is that pure speculation or you have data to back that up?

[spark hatch]

why do you care so much? yes ig a longer cable technically will have higher latency but its not gonna be anything you should be worrying about

and if you get a good cabe with good connectors it could verywell make it faster compared to the cheap cavle that comes stock

[trail lava]

it matters a lot for osu imo

thanks anyway

[spark hatch]

its not going to affect you.

[chrome raft]

also osu skill matters a lot

so yeah

dont blame ur cable if you suck at osu

[trail lava]

alright, mr 1 digit

[spark hatch]

careing about your cable adding latency is being supper picky, its not gonna do anything

[unkempt dome]

well unless someone can detect a frame drop from 200 fps to 199 fps ... 5ms of latency don't matter much

[chrome raft]

yeah

[spark hatch]

I dont think a coiled cable would add 5ms over stock cable

[unkempt dome]

higher fps is always better but to be able to notice a 1fps drop when you're doing over 150 fps ...

I don't think it would add 0,01 ms

cause how much longer is the coiled cable vs the non coiled cable ...

[spark hatch]

because of added length it might ad smthn like nano second

[chrome raft]

idk probably 10cm or less

[unkempt dome]

take that lenght and ask yourself how much time it takes for an electrical signal to go through that lenght

[spark hatch]

mhm

[chrome raft]

270000km/s

[unkempt dome]

thanx ...

so yeah ... at that speed ask how much time it add when adding 10cm of coiled cable

[chrome raft]

0.37037037 ns

thats basically nothing

[spark hatch]

yea~

[grim lance]

well and not to mention

you can just adapt to latency in your timing

[spark hatch]

also that

[grim lance]

btw im kinda set on the k3 black with rgb

but i also wanted to confirm thst i can use dsa/xda profile keys with the cherry switches

[spark hatch]

oh yea, it might look alittle silly which such high caps on a lowprofile but it'll fit

[grim lance]

are there shorter ones i can get?

[spark hatch]

oh oops I must have been thinking of sa, no those are the lowest you can get

they're be fine

[grim lance]

my next question is, where do i find them?

i cant seem to find xda/dsa caps in an all white pack

[ivory heath]

Don't blame him, he doesn't know how to count

[spark hatch]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2682

[grim lance]

dang

[spark hatch]

https://www.newegg.com/p/0GA-08SG-000F1?Description=dsa keycaps&cm_re=dsa_keycaps-_-0GA-08SG-000F1-_-Product

[grim lance]

oh that second one seems much better ngl

[spark hatch]

https://drop.com/buy/winmix-retro-beige-dsa-dye-subbed-keycap-set/details#details

and yea thats all I got for white ones, theres lots of you whent just alittle fancier

[grim lance]

hm

i really just wish they sold the damn keychron caps

[spark hatch]

you can wait for there white one to come back in stock

[grim lance]

see but then i lose rgb

😔

[spark hatch]

o right

[grim lance]

wait why is the black version 10$ more?

[spark hatch]

jst get the black one and use white rgb? also could use cherry profile caps on it

[spark hatch]

rgb

[grim lance]

no the non backlight one is also higher in price

🧐

[spark hatch]

they dont have a non backlit k3

[grim lance]

o

[spark hatch]

white is the non backlit version

no option for no backlight

[grim lance]

btw

which switches do you recommend

[unkempt dome]

depend of what you like in term of feeling

[grim lance]

what is bump?

[unkempt dome]

bump can be felt when the rubber dome resistance is overcome

[spark hatch]

your apple keyboard has a bump, its when you feel the increese in actuation force before overcoming the bump to bottom out

[unkempt dome]

not sure if there's much on a laptop keyboard

[grim lance]

hm

[spark hatch]

theres a sample

first is linear, thentactile, then clicking

[grim lance]

probably linear for me

[spark hatch]

then you would want reds

[grim lance]

wait a sec

https://nuphy.com/products/nutype-f1-aw20-late-summer-night-ver-keycaps

why...

why do they have almost an entire plain white keyboard worth of keys

but no option to purchase it as such

[spark hatch]

oh if you like that theres acouple options with white alphas and then another color for modifiers

[grim lance]

white alphas?

also would these keycaps be compatible with switches i can use on the keychron board?

[spark hatch]

the alphabet

[grim lance]

ideally its all white 😔🙏

[spark hatch]

yes. all caps are compatible with it it uses cherry stems

[grim lance]

hm

[spark hatch]

https://www.amazon.com/YMDK-Profile-Keyset-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B07WV4NSQZ?dchild=1&keywords=DSA%2BKeycaps&qid=1634641457&sr=8-4&th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=digiva20-20&linkId=2ff4e637dedb251fd3464f6b4aa355e5&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl