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spark hatch
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but they're 1 one of juse acouple companies that still make mice of a dieing breed

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wtf does that even mean bro

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its cable is not detachable, its already false advertising

rare crown
spark hatch
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bruh

rare crown
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Extra means extra keys and DYI is just swapping them

spark hatch
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yea ig so

rare crown
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ITS A KEYBOARD NOT A AIO

spark hatch
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swapping keycaps is possible on every keyboard ive ever used tho so

spark hatch
rare crown
spark hatch
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like I have a water bottle right beside my keyboard and my cats often jump up on my desk, not once has my water been knocked over onto my keyboard

spark hatch
rare crown
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my cup has a lid

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my floor has had more spills then my keyboard

spark hatch
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I think myn technically does but idk where I put it so

rare crown
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I need a drainage system for my floor

spark hatch
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I need an industrial air purifier

rare crown
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once my sister spilled some liquid thats like yogurt but with water and salt and there was dried things left on my case for a very long time

spark hatch
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yikes

rare crown
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so I have a new case with a hydrophobic surface cause of that time
(jk jk)

spark hatch
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my house is just extremely dusty, doesnt matter how often I dust things, its just everywere

rare crown
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anyway funny bloody keyboard

spark hatch
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it looks warped

rare crown
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only in games I can't do that

spark hatch
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Yikes

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I clean all my stuff to often for that to happen, I can't stand it when my things are dirty

rare crown
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my old mouse is so much worse tho

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no argb

spark hatch
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Ah, tbh I'm not a huge rgb fan

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I could take it or leave it idrc

rare crown
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also it can't be static so it just goes off sometimes

spark hatch
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Yikes

rare crown
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idk why it can't just be alway blue

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it just slowly goes off and then slowly goes back on

spark hatch
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There's not software for th mouse?

rare crown
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I just can't set the color to be constant in it

spark hatch
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Hmm that's odd

rare crown
proud rapids
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Hello guys, i neeeeeed HELP badly

(also posted on switch and vlick discord)

I am new to the mechanical keyboard scene, and want to get one for work. i cant find anything that checks my boxes.

  1. I live in germany so, the layout needs to be iso de.
  2. Numpad is a must, i hate jammed Keyboards so it needs to be 100% (separate numpad if it cant br fixed to the keyboard its a no go)
  3. It needs to be somehow portable, preferably wireless.
  4. Hotswapable is a must ( want to get those bannana split switches on).
  5. Media knob or wheel would be nice but not a must

Everest max seemed to be nice but too expensive, and the reviws weren't that positive

supple gust
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it’s very easy to get a keyboard to your specific layout just by swapping keycaps

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there’s plenty of decent ISOs from Keychron, dunno if iso DE, but you can just switch the layout in software and use a nice keycap set in ISO DE

spark hatch
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^

steady hatch
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Full size and portable really a thing ?

spark hatch
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yea

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if its wireless I'd consider it portable

steady hatch
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oh#

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I was thinking portable as in can fit in smol spaces

spark hatch
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obviously a smaller board like 65% is gonna be a way more portable option since its samller

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but if you absolutley need the num pad then aslong as its wireless its not a huge deal

steady hatch
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yeah I guess that works

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Well then keychron seems to be the best option

spark hatch
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yea, keychron is their best bet

steady hatch
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I have a Q1 and its amazing

spark hatch
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I like my q1

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its terrible stock tho

steady hatch
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although its hard for me to get used to the layout

spark hatch
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it'll be alot better when they update the q1 to be like the q2 and 3

steady hatch
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I did force break for now and im adding the knob

spark hatch
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only thing left on myn stock is the pcb and case~

steady hatch
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I had a kbd67 lite v3 but it wasnt as nice as my keychron

spark hatch
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so I got all the flex

steady hatch
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yeah the force break mod didnt do much with the ping I think the tape is too thin

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there are more mods that stop ping but it then reduces the flex which is kinda trash

spark hatch
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yera

hard cedar
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breathe in

spark hatch
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if you have electrical tape it works pretty good

steady hatch
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yeah I got some

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might use that

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but im going to do that when the knob arrives some day

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and the stabs are pretty good stock

spark hatch
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if you use 2-3 layere electrical tape around every screw that works pretty good

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yea they are, I replcaed myn tho, the lubing job was pretty inconsistant

steady hatch
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the one I have is pretty chonky so 1 or 2 should be fine

spark hatch
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so is myn, but you wanna make sure they're not touching

steady hatch
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what do you mean touching ?

spark hatch
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I have a visible crack between my top and bottom plat

spark hatch
steady hatch
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yeah

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I get it now

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this is the knob im getting

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looks about the same as stock

spark hatch
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why didnt you just get a knob from keychron? dont they sell the knob?

steady hatch
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I needed a new keyboard quick and it would take 1 month to get the knob version

spark hatch
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i see, thats fair

steady hatch
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I had a spare keyboard but it broke so I just had to buy a keyboard

proud rapids
proud rapids
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Numpad

spark hatch
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its a 96%, same as full size juse compacted

spark hatch
proud rapids
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Too jammed

spark hatch
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Keychron | Wireless Mechanical Keyboards for Mac, Windows and Android

Keychron K4 (Version 2) Wireless Mechanical Keyboard. 96% Layout but Compact. Wireless or Wired. Bluetooth 5.1. For Mac and Windows. Optical or Gateron Switches. Connect up to 3 devices. Inclined bottom frame. 15+ RGB Backlight. Dedicated caps lock indicator light.

proud rapids
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Must be 100%

spark hatch
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dont have many options then

proud rapids
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Yeah thats why i am here

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Evga z15

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I was thinking of that but its not wireless

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And that branding is 😩

spark hatch
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evga makes pretty low quality boards but I dont got a better suggestion

proud rapids
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:(

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Everest max is expensive and i am not sure its good, gmmk is not wireless

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I need basically an iso version of k10😫

spark hatch
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ik this prolly isnt an option bt have your tried a ANSI layout?

proud rapids
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Wont work must be german,

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I type reports in german all day.....

spark hatch
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alr, was just asking casaue ansi opens the doors to alot more options

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if you just wait abit, most people in north america are still at work or school, someone from that area might have some ideas, but idk very many iso layout boards

proud rapids
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Was suggested an akkeo keyboard

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But its 80%

spark hatch
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have you considered an 80% with external num pad?

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it'd be abit of a pain but it is a n option

proud rapids
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Thax dude for the help👍

spark hatch
worn storm
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One of these days I'll manage to successfully use something smaller than a 75%

proud rapids
rare crown
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good keyboard for 50usd

steady hatch
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anyone able to recommend some budget tactiles ?

keen basin
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purple pandas?

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penguin?

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idk if there budget

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ooo

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lavender akko cs

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those are good

proud rapids
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Found this Akko Black&Pink 5108S

spark hatch
proud rapids
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It seems the only option i have

spark hatch
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does it come in iso tho/

rare crown
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What's a Bulgarian man gonna have to do to get a good 50$ keyboard

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Idk what to look in a good keyboard

proud rapids
spark hatch
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the picture you sent is ansi and ther is no option for iso

proud rapids
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I think i know now how my wife feels when she enters a shoe store

spark hatch
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lmao

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yea as far as im aware this board does not has an iso version. where did you read it did?

proud rapids
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I dobt see it either fml😫 😫 😫

rare crown
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I am probably going to buy the redragon

spark hatch
rare crown
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Ok then I am probably going to buy the redragon cause people said that that is what I should go for

proud rapids
spark hatch
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if you cant get a keychron or Léopold it might be your only choice

rare crown
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Imagine having enough money for a keychron

spark hatch
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oh actually, are akko boards expensive? I havent ever seen one, but I've heard good thingd

proud rapids
spark hatch
rare crown
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Yea I count shipping cost

proud rapids
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23$ to germany * facepalm*

rare crown
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27 for Bulgaria

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Local keychrons are like twice as expensive as they should be

spark hatch
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still better than me lmao, keychron shipping is 31 lmao

rare crown
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But almost no shipping costs and also better and faster shipping

spark hatch
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I would opt for the keychron if possible, its quility is far better\

proud rapids
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30$ difference for Bulgarien economy is alot of money, i can understand hos Situation...

rare crown
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Yes its very much more expensive to go for a slightly more premium product

spark hatch
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ah

rare crown
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Also I do prefer full keyboard

proud rapids
rare crown
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I like having numpad

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I guess full compact is also fine

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My keyboard rn can probably classified as 120% or something

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It has extra keys on the top

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I only use two of them

spark hatch
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the red dragon is probably your best bet then

proud rapids
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I will go to sleep, will do more Research tomorrow

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Nighty everyone

rare crown
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There was a better one but I can't pay with a card on the website

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So I just moved down one keyboard

proud rapids
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Ty

rare crown
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I will also now to sleep and get my blood sucked out of my for an hour

spark hatch
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oh? whats sucking your blood?

rare crown
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I am sick

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So yea gonna sleep

spark hatch
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oh im sorry to hear that, hope you get better! gn

proud rapids
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Get well dude

harsh mirage
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My new keyboard is here!!

spark hatch
harsh mirage
spark hatch
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Ah

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Hope you like it.

harsh mirage
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i luv it

young aspen
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Hey, i've got some questions about keyboards and i'm hoping somebody in this chat is knowledgeable on these specifics (but what am i saying, it's probably a bunch of keyboard nerds)

I want to buy a keyboard, so i walked into bestbuy and touched keyboards
"The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog"

I can't say i like the Logi/(steelseries?)/Corsair keyboards, they feel mushy... but i kinda liked the almost clicky switch feel of the Huntsman V2 and what i think was a HyperX Alloy...
What other keyboards have that tactile switch feel without being absolute shit?
I don't want to spend a crazy amount of money though, and i don't need something perfect... but i would prefer something that does not have proprietary bullshit bloatware for it's backlighting...

spark hatch
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what size?

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also did you like the click? or just the feel of the click? on the razer
do you want back lighting? you can save money if you dont want it

spark hatch
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yea thats what I assumed

spark hatch
# young aspen Hey, i've got some questions about keyboards and i'm hoping somebody in this cha...

keychron c1/c2 is a good base https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c1-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32321247215705 or for some more money you can go Léopold which are abit more premium

and for switches it all depends, if you liked the sound and feel of the click you can get clickies, and if you just liked the feel theres some other options out there, like kenetic lab penguins possibly or box royals for example

Keychron | Wireless Mechanical Keyboards for Mac, Windows and Android

Keychron C1 Mechanical Keyboard. Tenkeyless Layout. Connects via wired type-c cable and users can hot swap every switch in seconds with the hot-swappable version. Compatible with Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Linux. Gateron Switches. 15+ RGB Backlight

young aspen
spark hatch
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alr, so if you just liked the feel you'd probably like a mid bump tactile,

young aspen
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Like the razer and the hyperx stuck out to me

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But i'm not buying razer lmfao

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anyways, go on

spark hatch
young aspen
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What?

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I know nothing about keyboards lmao

spark hatch
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give me a sec

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whats up?

spark hatch
# young aspen 80% preferably, i just liked the clicky tactile feel
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I've personally never used akko switches but ive heard good things about them

young aspen
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so basically just buy a keychron with the gateron browns?

spark hatch
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yea it doesnt really matter what switches you get if you plan on swaping them out, you could get the blues to see if you liked them since they would be the closest the the razer switches, but then you're stuck with them till you can got replacement switches

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also its important you get the hotswap model, otherwise to swap out switches you have to desolder and solder which is just a pain

young aspen
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Yeah

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thanks!

spark hatch
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np glad to help! let me know if you have any other questions

harsh mirage
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Whats yall opinion on the keychron k2? Thinking of getting one for a freind thats getting his first pc soon

chrome raft
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decent

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ok buget 75%

spark hatch
supple gust
# proud rapids The krychron k10 and c2 dont have iso veraions. The k10 was my first choice, the...
Keychron | Wireless Mechanical Keyboards for Mac, Windows and Android

Keychron K4 (Version 2) Wireless Mechanical Keyboard. 96% Layout but Compact. Wireless or Wired. Bluetooth 5.1. For Mac and Windows. Optical or Gateron Switches. Connect up to 3 devices. Inclined bottom frame. 15+ RGB Backlight. Dedicated caps lock indicator light.

spark hatch
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has to be 100%

supple gust
supple gust
# proud rapids The krychron k10 and c2 dont have iso veraions. The k10 was my first choice, the...
Keychron | Wireless Mechanical Keyboards for Mac, Windows and Android

Keychron K4 (Version 2) Wireless Mechanical Keyboard. 96% Layout but Compact. Wireless or Wired. Bluetooth 5.1. For Mac and Windows. Optical or Gateron Switches. Connect up to 3 devices. Inclined bottom frame. 15+ RGB Backlight. Dedicated caps lock indicator light.

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this is the only one bigger than 80% I could find with ISO DE

spark hatch
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and then below that "must be 100%"

supple gust
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damn 💀 he picky

spark hatch
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yea~ they got slim pickings

proud rapids
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I will try to contact akko today may be i will have some luck

unkempt dome
spark hatch
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i should really try an akko switch

unkempt dome
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Yes indeed

spark hatch
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ive also been considering a box royal

unkempt dome
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Specially for that low price

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Never tried box royal ... I probably should ...

spark hatch
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im pretty sure the lavender is a mid bump, is the jelly just a heavier version of that?

spark hatch
unkempt dome
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Lavender and jelly purple have the same tactile force ... about the same graph but jelly purple spring is heavier

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The lavender purple feels like you fall into a pit after the tactile bump ... straight to the bottom

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I think I prefer them ...

Also I haven't lube any of them

spark hatch
unkempt dome
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Navy are nice... quite heavy tho

spark hatch
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only key weight bothers me on is space bar

unkempt dome
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Boba u4 are probably my next switches

unkempt dome
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Gtg shower now ... brb soon I hope

spark hatch
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alr

unkempt dome
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back ... I survived ...

chrome raft
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corsa is the switch name not the company behind the switch

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i heard its a pretty nice light tactile

brazen brook
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Is there a keyboard with these features?

  • ISO Layout
  • TKL
  • Fingerprint reader/USB Port
chrome raft
chrome raft
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they also have hdmi

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usb port

brazen brook
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That's a Raspberry Pi 400

chrome raft
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yes

brazen brook
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And it has to be mechanical

chrome raft
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uhm

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if any other negative

supple gust
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that's the one i have, there's no difference but if you want to use them with a 3 pin board you need to clip the legs

chrome raft
brazen brook
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But there's one that has an USB "pass-trough"?

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(And the rest of the features)

chrome raft
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some keychron boards might have passthrough?

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idk

brazen brook
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Too expensive

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And no one has passthrough

supple gust
brazen brook
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Which ones have?

supple gust
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plenty of boards. Off the top of my head the Drop CTRL does, but it's not a super good board

brazen brook
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I was referring to Keychron

supple gust
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ohhh i thought you meant “no one” as in it’s not a common feature on keyboards period, sorry for misunderstanding

brazen brook
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And also, I checked and there isn't a good one at less than my top budget (USD$30)

chrome raft
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30 dollars cant buy you anything

spark hatch
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^

chrome raft
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its so hard even to find a detachable cable for 30 dollars

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a keeb with a detachable cable

spark hatch
chrome raft
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true

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but u sure you want to buy a keeb with a 90% risk ofbroken pcb?

spark hatch
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Magegee seems to be pretty good at going there baords detachable cables

chrome raft
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im concerened about the qc

spark hatch
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That's fair enough

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I've only ever bought from one company from Amazon, Magegee and I've honestly been impressed by there build quality, but I doubt they even have a support if smthn was wrong

chrome raft
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ikr

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the pcb might literally just crack

spark hatch
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On some boards, I'm not worried about that happening on my low end budget builds

vale mist
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you can barely get a usb fingerprint reader for 30$

spark hatch
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I had no idea those even existed

vale mist
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it was one of their requirements

chrome raft
# vale mist

but you could just get a usb authentication thing

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like a usb key

vale mist
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you could do that

chrome raft
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and its cheaper

vale mist
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personally I prefer just typing a password

chrome raft
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same

spark hatch
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Ah, I never scrolled up to see past conversation so

chrome raft
proud rapids
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I contacted akko, the iso versions are coming at the end of April
Tbe Black&Pink 5108S keyboard is wired, and it's not hotswapable,
The 3068B, 3084B are the hotswapable keyboards.

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Then he wrote
"as you could see all keyboards title with B are hotswapable with muti-model"

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I guess i am back to point 0 facepalm

proud rapids
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Akko has added this
"yes, we will have 100%,60%, wireless hotswapable in iso-de coming up in the end of April."

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😋 😋

supple gust
cobalt heath
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Been looking at having a desktop keyboard again and there's something about me I find a bit weird. My hands seem to conform better to a full size numpad board even though I have no real use for those extra keys. Maybe it's because those were what I used in my formative years? Maybe because my fingers like having extra space to rest on to the right of the board when I'm using Return and Backspace?

Was even able to test the theory at an Apple store the other day as their full and TKL boards are basically the same minus a couple of keys, and the full board just somehow felt better.

Bit of a ramble but felt like sharing!

chrome raft
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if you dont really value mouse space there is no problem going full size

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also apple doesnt sell tkl

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apple sells 75% and full size

cobalt heath
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Ah, I can get a bit mixed up with the terms, think some places Label then wrong.

Maybe I could remap three numpad to macros or something? Have some purpose for it.

chrome raft
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sure

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remapping is a good idea

sleek bronze
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Maybe it's because those were what I used in my formative years? @cobalt heath

I have a keyboard built by myself that has the numpad on the left side, besides that it's a fairly normal one
(there is no marking on the keys)
I swear there is absolutely NOBODY that can use this keyboard, even people that have keyboards without marking and never look at the keyboard when typing

Why so ? Simply because people are used to having the keyboard stopping at capslock/tab etc. It's ingrained in their brain. It was the same for me at the start, my hands were naturally one or two column to the left

Why do I tell you this ? I guess it's the same for you but of course to a lesser degree. Your brain is waay too used to having a numpad to the right even if you don't use it. Typing is all about muscle memory, and the memory in your muscles currently tells you "there has to be a numpad there, i don't know where I am when there is none"

potent void
sleek bronze
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If it's that, you'll get used to it fast
Having more room for the mouse is honestly really really good. You can have a better angle for your arm and thus accumulate less fatigue etc (even if you don't consciously feel it)
I'm not even talking about people that play with low sensitivity (like me, this is one of the main reason why I don't want left-sided numpad anymore).
Or just classic ergonomic (having to lift your hand to reach for something is generally bad keyboard-wise), I mean, not everyone needs and wants a super duper ergo setup.
It's just that it's a bit sad to get one if you don't even plan on using it

cobalt heath
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Mm. I grew up in the 90s and 00s, full boards were pretty much all you tended to see on a desktop. And I never had my own laptop will I was like 19 or so. I can use those but my hands have still never been as 'at home'.

sleek bronze
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Yeah pretty sure it's what I described

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Anyway, there is still nothing wrong with getting a full sized one ^^

spark hatch
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yea

sleek bronze
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Because as long as you don't have something like that :

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you are not a true chad anyway

spark hatch
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I cant stand ergo keyboards

sleek bronze
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Understandable

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I still can't type with it lmao

spark hatch
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also doesnt help I dont touch typle correctly so I miss keys alot

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I like to use my left hand for y and b alot so split boards mess me up alot

sleek bronze
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With this + colemak you are kind of forced to touch type yeah, but it comes naturally
However I don't feel the ergo part for now. Since I lack muscles in my pinkies and ring fingers, litterally, so I feel a bit of pain. But "good pain", like the one when going to the gym to train lmao

chrome raft
spark hatch
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ah

sleek bronze
spark hatch
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ah

sleek bronze
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I don't know if I'll keep digging into it, but for now I just find it funny to learn to build/program/use one

spark hatch
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only thing I like about split ergo boards, is there look, they do look quite cool. especially the acrylic ones

cobalt heath
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I remember people having this 'wavey' kind of shape. Gave the thing a pretty big footprint.

sleek bronze
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Like not flat ones ?

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Yeah

spark hatch
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looks cool, again would never want to use it

sleek bronze
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The learning curve is waay too steep

spark hatch
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yea

sleek bronze
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But I swear I want one just to laugh at trying to use it

spark hatch
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If I ever got wrist problems I'd look into it but as of now I have no intent of ever using one

sleek bronze
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Understandable

spark hatch
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I would do that, but I wouldnt pay they're steap price jsut for a laugh

sleek bronze
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I already have problems with basically every joint in my body haha, so I kind of really want to optimize that

spark hatch
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ah, thats unfortunate

sleek bronze
spark hatch
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yea, but for the like curved ones

sleek bronze
# spark hatch ah, thats unfortunate

Bad luck I guess
And honestly I'm fine with a normal keyboard, as long as the posture is good. It's just a good excuse to convince myself. And maybe when i'll get older i'll thanks myself for doing it

sleek bronze
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Well, it requires you to have a 3D printer

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But they don't have a pcb usually, everything hand wired (annoying to do but cheap AF)

spark hatch
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ah, I wouldnt know, I thought they were quite expensive, granted I've never looked at diy. only consumer

sleek bronze
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As long as you have a 3D printer it's not really expensive to print the board
Controllers (30$ maybe) + some cheaps electronic components
Then switches + keycaps, and here it's the same as for a normal keyboard, and you even have less keys so it can still be cheaper in this category

sleek bronze
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But I'm pretty sure most of the people building them do it 50% just for the fun of building it

spark hatch
spark hatch
sleek bronze
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It's my case at least ^^

spark hatch
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yea

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ti does look like it would be fun to make one

sleek bronze
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Yeah
There are a lot of "stages"
You can just buy a kit and assemble it then use a default firmware

Or totally design the layout from scratch, make the PCB in kicad, make it printed, design a controller, flash it with an ISP flasher and a self-programmed firmware, find a way to make a custom case etcccc

spark hatch
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yea

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I'd like to try making a diy board one day

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but I heard kicad can be quite pricy

sleek bronze
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??

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It's literally a free software

spark hatch
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oh wait no sorry, like when you go to get the pcb made, I forget what company it was that I looked at

sleek bronze
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JLCPCB something like that

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That's what people usually use

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It's honestly quite cheap

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For my big keyboard (fullsize size) it was something like 20€ for FIVE PCBs (can't get less than that) shipping in

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I had a "first order" discount though, but it's still quite cheap

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Compared to traditional custom keyboard

spark hatch
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I could be mestaken, I just remember it being alittle pricy to get them made, but that was a long time ago so things could have changed

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I must be thinking of smthn differnt then

sleek bronze
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Maybe if you tried to make them solder all the components on it yeah

spark hatch
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I remember it being upwards of 300 cad

sleek bronze
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wow

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Well it's not that price AT ALL

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And technically you don't need a pcb, it's just a pain in the ** to hand wire a keyboard

spark hatch
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not sure, it was a while ago, just remember it being pricy, maybe i'll look into it again

sleek bronze
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It's less than 20 bucks for sure

spark hatch
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yea, I must be thinking of smthn else then. I'll have to revist the idea of making a custom board

sleek bronze
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And you could still just buy an already existing PCB

spark hatch
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true

unkempt dome
supple gust
unkempt dome
spark hatch
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idrc about rgb so

spark hatch
proud rapids
spark hatch
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keychron is a good option

proud rapids
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U chatted alot without me, i am going to skip some reading :p

sleek bronze
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You did skip a lot haha

proud rapids
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XD

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I have 10% discount code for keychron that ends tomorrow if anyone wants it, i would be glad to give it up

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I got it cause i left the stuff in my cart and didnt pay(stopped before the last step)

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And they sent me 2 days after the code

spark hatch
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lmao, thats nice of them, im good tho

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I think 5 keyboards is good, for now

outer citrus
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My switch tester is here

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And wow clicky switches are nice

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But they are noisy and I can’t have noisy keyboards lol

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Tactile are pretty nice thp

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Especially ones with the noticeable bumps

spark hatch
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what tactiles are you trying

outer citrus
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I have no idea. This switch tester I have has 3 tactile, 4 linears, and 2 clickys

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Hold on

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I’ll show em

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They are gateron switches

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It doesn’t specify the switch types on the Amazon listing

spark hatch
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ah

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gat tactiles are kinda meh

outer citrus
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Yeah

spark hatch
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wow I aced the spelling of that

outer citrus
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The browns don’t have a really noticeable tactile bump

spark hatch
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yea

outer citrus
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It’s like cherry switches

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Their tactiles aren’t the best

spark hatch
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all browns arent tactile, browns is a type of tactile, and its very light

outer citrus
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Yeah

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Gat clears are pretty nice tho

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My keyboard is still in shipping tho

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So I can’t test how the switches will sound on the actual keyboard

spark hatch
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ah

outer citrus
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I’d have to say clicky switches are probs my fave

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But of course I can’t have clicky switches cause they are loud

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And none of these tactile switches are that great

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Well

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They are good but they arent the greatest

spark hatch
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well it depends on the clickies but jsut in general

unkempt dome
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Clicky ... kailh box jade and box navy

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Or zeal clickiez

spark hatch
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those are expensiveee

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I would love to try them tho, they look like really nice clickies

unkempt dome
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Tactile ...
Akko lavender purple, jelly purple
kailh box burnt orange
Tecsee purple panda maybe ... I have yet to try them ... might do that this weekend

spark hatch
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all good options

solid sinew
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hear me out

peak spade
#

hey there, quick question, im used to a clicky switch, 1.5mm actuation distance at 45g of actuation, do you think because these(aqua king switchers) are linear and dont need the "click" to activate that i should go with the 67g version of these? or go with the 55g version of this because its the closest to what im using now. im not sure if a clicky 45g switch is actually like a 80g linear switch, what would you recommend i do? thanks again 🙂

spark hatch
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its all preference, but I would maybe do the 67 gram version, I'd wait for some other answers tho, someone might have a better idea

peak spade
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like is a 45g clicky switch the same as a 45g linear switch?

spark hatch
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not really cause it requires more force than 45g to get past the tactile event

unkempt dome
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You have to check the tactile force of a tactile or clicky switch to know how it can approximate a linear switch ... and even then it clearly won't feel the same

chrome raft
proud rapids
#

I will post the discount code for keychron here it ends tomorrow

3MT9SZMK

supple gust
spark hatch
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Never tried them, they look really nice tho

outer citrus
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my new keyboard is here

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keychron c2

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gateron reds

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the spacebar is oddly "thocky"

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really nice keyboard

#

probs gonna put all black keycaps on it

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and then maybe some different switches

spark hatch
#

sick

outer citrus
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the stabilizers seem to already be pre lubed

spark hatch
outer citrus
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yea

spark hatch
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if you add foam its alot better tho

outer citrus
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im probably going to do a tape mod

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cause i dont have foam

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and people say tape can improve acoustics

spark hatch
outer citrus
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so far im liking the keyboard tho

#

o

spark hatch
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tape mod does help a fair bit

outer citrus
#

i might get a wrist rest tho

spark hatch
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there wrist wrest is really nice

outer citrus
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isnt it wooden?

spark hatch
#

yea

outer citrus
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the acoustics of this keyboard arent absolutely superb out of the box

spark hatch
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palm i believe

outer citrus
#

but its miles better than the corsair k70

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the k70 is incredibly pingy and loud

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which is odd cause its linear

spark hatch
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switches make a huge difference on it in my experience

vale mist
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well linear won't matter when the accoustics are already bad

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in terms of sound

outer citrus
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welp

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its been fun corsair

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but its time for you to enter the shelf of electronics i plan on selling

spark hatch
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nice

outer citrus
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i will say tho i had some pretty positive experiences with corsair keyboards

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mostly

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the multimedia scroller on my k70 was wonky

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also why does dhl make opening packages so dificult

spark hatch
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cause if they dont put in in 30 layers on bubble rap they'll turn it into spaghetti

outer citrus
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lol

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my guess is it has to do with the fact this is coming from overseas

spark hatch
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yea, also if it was easy to open I bet they'd have alot of packeges go missing

outer citrus
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probs

spark hatch
#

what switches were you thinking of getting for the board?

outer citrus
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havent decided

spark hatch
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or have you decided"?

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ah

outer citrus
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was considering holy pandas

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but they are expensive

spark hatch
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ah

outer citrus
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and i dont exactly have the money for a full sized keyboard amount of them

spark hatch
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I personally dont relly like holy pandas,

outer citrus
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i was also looking at kailh box switches

spark hatch
spark hatch
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and i've liked my box whites and navies

outer citrus
outer citrus
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does keychron prelube the stabilizers?

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cause i noticed that on the spacebar stabilizers there was what looked to be some lube

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a shit ton of lube apparently

peak cloud
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I don't think my original keytron had lube but my keychron k4 does.

spark hatch
outer citrus
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ah

spark hatch
#

and switches

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its a supper thin oil mure than a thick lube like 205, but they are technically lubed

subtle grotto
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kbd67 lite r3 with matcha greens lels

spark hatch
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oo that sounds nice

subtle grotto
#

matcha greens weight pretty good

modest creek
#

So I have a Filco from 2010 that duplicates a couple key presses and seems to lose connection fi you move the keyboard... stripped it down in the bath tub and cleaning it. Anyone know if the USB cable is replaceable as a whole part or should I look into making something?

spark hatch
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personally would swap it to usb c

modest creek
#

I'm fine with that

spark hatch
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im not sure about replacing usb as a whole, is it solderd to the board or is there a connector?

modest creek
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Connector

subtle grotto
modest creek
spark hatch
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you could do some looking around but I doubt theres a replacement for it, what does the connector look like tho?

modest creek
#

See above

spark hatch
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yea, ty

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uhm yknow what that looks like a standardish cable

modest creek
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There's an anti-strain part that passes through the keyboard housing where I think it pinched the cable over time

spark hatch
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Im pretty sure one of my 20$ builds uses the same one

modest creek
#

Yeah it looks fairly standard

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I don't mind converting it or making something custom but it seems to be fairly ordinary

spark hatch
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personally would make it usb c but I also have fancy cables I like to use, but it would defintally be doable to just replace the cable

modest creek
#

What parts do you recommend for converting to USB C

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I am very competent soldering so that's no concern

spark hatch
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I bet you could find it some where or ik a cheap board off amazon you could use for parts

spark hatch
#

you'd need to get creative on how and where to put the connector tho

modest creek
#

Oh okay so you just hardwired it in with a male usb-c connector

spark hatch
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can you desolder the already existing conector?

modest creek
#

I was actually thinking of trying to find a USBC female side like a socket

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Yeah I can no problem

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Or I could even cut off like an inch of the existing harness

spark hatch
modest creek
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Okay then did you like epoxy it into the housing or was it on a short lead

spark hatch
modest creek
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Yeah I could be solder that standard 5 pin

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But the way it's set up is it the keyboard then had like 6 ft of cable coming out of it with a USB a male

spark hatch
#

epoxy would prolly work tho

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I dont see why it wouldnt

modest creek
#

Okay cool yeah I'll have to get creative

spark hatch
#

does that board have much hollow area under neath it?

modest creek
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It has a bit on top

spark hatch
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hm, that shouldnt be too difficult. it looks like there's enough room you could squeeze a connector in there

modest creek
#

I could definitely make it work looks like there's USBC daughter cards

spark hatch
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yea

modest creek
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I just realized

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I could also just cut the standard USB cable shorter and move the strain piece

spark hatch
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oh yea, duh lmao.

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would be worth a shot

modest creek
#

yeah to see where the double phantom keypress shit is happening

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Its an old kb but in mint shape

#

was like $150 new and stopped using it because of this

spark hatch
#

ah

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is it a specific key that double presses or just all of them?

modest creek
#

Its hard to say because the connection it intermittent

spark hatch
#

ah

modest creek
#

otherwise i'm soldering a couple new mx browns on

spark hatch
#

Yea

outer citrus
#

should i foam mod my new keyboard?

keen basin
#

yes

outer citrus
#

well

#

im a complete beginner at this. never modded a keyboard before

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and this is a brand new keychron c2

keen basin
#

i did it my first tiem too

#

youl be fine

#

its not hard at all

outer citrus
#

so im not going to break it easily

keen basin
#

prob not

spark hatch
outer citrus
#

sure

spark hatch
outer citrus
#

atleast keychron is nice enough to send you a wire keycap puller

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instead of those cheap plastic keycap pullers

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corsair im looking at you

spark hatch
#

yea, they,re good for that, I would preffer one of those keycap AND switch puller ocmbos tho

outer citrus
#

yeah

#

corsair keyboards are so expensive and the keycap puller is crap

#

for the price youd think theyd be nice and include a decent keycap puller

spark hatch
#

I wouldnt know I've never used a corsair board

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but I dont doubt they do taht

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they all about the $$

outer citrus
#

now that im more knowledgable in keyboards

#

i know corsair keyboards arent that great

#

sure you get "premium build quality" and metal and all that

#

but

#

cherry switches

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terrible acoustics

#

and overall bad quality control

spark hatch
#

yea

outer citrus
#

then again corsair is a big corp

#

so thats what you have to expect

spark hatch
#

idek why they have the aluminuim top plate its so thin it dont do shit

outer citrus
#

its just to say they include metal in their keyboard

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even though that doesnt really mean anything

spark hatch
outer citrus
#

sure it increases weight and decreases deck flex

spark hatch
#

gmmk is abit to be desired they've done some questionable things but theyre still far better than say, corsair

outer citrus
#

true

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so far ive had pretty much nothing but good experiences with my new board

spark hatch
outer citrus
#

the only downside is the lack of addressible rgb software

spark hatch
#

but like if you're gonna do it they should do it right

outer citrus
#

but my setup just needs the white light setting

#

so it doesnt really bother me

spark hatch
#

ah, they're more custom options have via, wich is a macro and lighting software, but they'd have to change a fair bit if they wanted to bring that to there whole line up

outer citrus
#

yeah

#

i hate not having a wrist rest

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i ordered a hyper x wrist rest off of amazon lol

spark hatch
#

I've never like wrist rests

#

they jsut dont feel right

outer citrus
#

to me typing without a wrist rest strains my hand after a while

#

anyways

#

time to get to modding my keyboard

#

and hopefully not breaking it lol

spark hatch
#

lmao, you'll be fine its not that bad

outer citrus
#

ima break out my backup keyboard so i can type

spark hatch
#

the worse part is pushing the pcb throught the stand offs

outer citrus
#

i will say tho

#

corsair keyboards do look pretty good

modest creek
#

am i the only one who thinks hot-swappable switches is cheating

#

@outer citrus I have 2 K65 Mini and love htem

spark hatch
#

ehh I dont like the look of any oem boards

#

the only one I've liked was the g915 tkl

outer citrus
spark hatch
#

but its terrrible in avery other way

modest creek
#

@outer citrus its just cheating lol

outer citrus
#

i do like the minimalistic look of keychron keyboards tho

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and that they dont shove their branding in your face

spark hatch
#

do they even have branding?

modest creek
#

does keychron make a white one

spark hatch
#

they're pcb does

#

they make a reto one

#

its like a faded white

modest creek
#

yeah i need a white white

outer citrus
#

the keychron model and serial number sticketr

spark hatch
#

OH q1,2,3,4 comes in white

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those are their high end ones tho so they're more expensive

modest creek
#

i only see grey

#

their site is kinda terrible

spark hatch
#

they have a great site?

modest creek
#

all of these kb sites think you know their model #'s

outer citrus
#

keychron put a metric fuck ton of lube on my stabilizers thats for sure

spark hatch
modest creek
#

sure, i know their site, but like

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i dunno models

spark hatch
#

its at the top, just use their drop downs

modest creek
#

so which one is white

#

lol

spark hatch
#
Keychron | Wireless Mechanical Keyboards for Mac, Windows and Android

Keychron Q1 is a fully customized 75% layout mechanical keyboard packed with all premium features and unlimited possibilities. Q1 is an all-metal keyboard that allows customizable capabilities for every key switch, keycap, and stabilizer. It’s made for your personalized experience and a more comfortable typing experience.

modest creek
#

but not q2, 3, 4?

spark hatch
#

oh, they should be coming soon

versed hamlet
#

Who is getting the qk65

#

And why are my switches becoming more scratchy over time

spark hatch
#

they just recently added the white q1 so they probably have to build their stock

spark hatch
versed hamlet
spark hatch
#

what lube did you use?

versed hamlet
#

205g0

spark hatch
#

where did you get it?

versed hamlet
spark hatch
#

hmm, have you tried relubing one?

versed hamlet
#

It works but becomes scratchy again in 2 weeks

spark hatch
#

hmm interesting, waht switches?

versed hamlet
spark hatch
#

hmm, I havent heard of anything like that happening, give it abit maybe someone got an idea of whats happening

outer citrus
#

finally got all the keycaps off

spark hatch
#

nice

outer citrus
#

yeah this keyboard is an absolute pain to get apart lol

spark hatch
#

its alittle tricky

#

I didnt find it terrable tho

outer citrus
#

this is scuffing up my keyboard a lot

spark hatch
#

what are you trying to do?

#

you shouldnt need to use anything hard enough to scratch it

outer citrus
#

get the cover off

#

i cant find any plastic things for it

#

my credit card is way too flimsy to get the clips up

spark hatch
#

drivers licence/banking card

#

oh

spark hatch
outer citrus
#

i got part of the cover off

#

just got to do the sides

spark hatch
#

also you shuld be able to ues your card, I just did it sitting here

#

once you get the first couple clips it should go quite easily

vale mist
spark hatch
#

no I wouldnt either

vale mist
#

use like a expired/almost empty gift card

#

I used a gift card to pry open a laptop once and the card was quite messed up after that

subtle grotto
spark hatch
outer citrus
#

finally got the cover off

spark hatch
#

sick

#

it goes on much better dw

outer citrus
#

alright

#

pcb out

spark hatch
#

nice

#

now you can use the foam that game in the box to put in the case, and you can tempest mod the pcb

outer citrus
#

alright

#

foam in place

#

now do i just close it back up and call it a day

spark hatch
#

sure, or you could also do tempest mod

outer citrus
#

and its screwed back on

#

just gotta put the keycaps back on

spark hatch
#

nicee

outer citrus
#

and thats not good

#

these 2 snaps at the bottom wont close

#

got it closed

#

and mod done

#

looks like it working

#

and it sounds a heck to better too

#

especially the space bar

#

although the space bar still sounds a bit off

spark hatch
#

yea

proud rapids
#

I am always late for the Chat -. -

outer citrus
#

My keyboard is semi scuffed

#

But it’s mostly on the underside of the cover

#

Where it will never be seen

#

So I don’t rlly care

wise flower
#

Best keyboards for gaming?

proud rapids
#

First of all i am a keyboard noob.
Optical switches are the go to for speed and gaming. For mechanical switches u need something eith cherry mx silver or red switches or equivilant to that.
It depends on ur petsonal preference in end
In

#

I have an old razor black window here, and i hated it used it a couple of times only

#

Roccat Keyboards were way much better

#

I repeat i am a noob

#

Linus uses logitech g710+ with brown switches

chrome raft
chrome raft
#

what budget

chrome raft
#

they dont feel or sound as good as mechnical switches

#

and you cant swap them out

#

its not worth all the downsides

#

you could get a qk65 at that price

analog wyvern
#

Guys, what Razer keyboard should i go for? Only played casual games (FH5, Genshin, etc) and retro games. Also im looking for Razer Chroma RGB support since i wanted to link it with Genshin

#

I dunno if other brand keyboard works with Chroma or not...

chrome raft
#

dont get razer products

#

why would you want to link razer chroma with genshin

analog wyvern
#

Hm....

#

So what should i get then?

#

(Logitech would be nice too, but i need to look at the price first)

analog wyvern
#

About $80

chrome raft
#

ok

#

get a rk61 and mod it

#

get some better switches and stabs

#

and maybe new keycaps

analog wyvern
#

This?

chrome raft
#

yes

#

rk61

#

hotswap

#

put painters tape below the pcb

#

and then fill the case with pe foam

analog wyvern
#

Hm...

#

Btw

#

What switches should i get?

#

There is a lot of switches on the options...

boreal rivet
#

gat milky yellow

#

or whatever akko people are hyping now idk

analog wyvern
#

These?

analog wyvern
#

Painters tape is kinda rare here

full hull
analog wyvern
#

(Never used mechanical keyboard before)

full hull
analog wyvern
#

61 keys for RK61

full hull
analog wyvern
#

Just 1

#

5k IDR per piece

#

You only get the jar for buying 45 pieces

#

So if i went with 60%, that means i need to spend 305k IDR

analog wyvern
#

Hm...

full hull
#

I recall Genshin needing function keys for most of the shortcuts

chrome raft
#

on the mod

#

pe foam+tape

chrome raft
#

video by tempest

#

on youtube

analog wyvern
#

As for PE foam...

#

I dunno where i can get it =_=a

chrome raft
chrome raft
analog wyvern
chrome raft
#

i recommend buying pe foam on amazon

analog wyvern
chrome raft
#

oh ok

analog wyvern
chrome raft
#

aliexpress?

#

taobao?

full hull
#

If you can stretch your budget to like 1.400.000 you can get a south facing PCB

#

It's indonesia just get it off lazada

chrome raft
#

whats 1.400.000

full hull
#

All keyboard stuff is just way way cheaper

analog wyvern
#

Indonesian Rupiah

chrome raft
#

ok

analog wyvern
#

Just convert it to USD

chrome raft
#

well i live in canada so i dont know value of indonesia currency

analog wyvern
#

Basically its rather high in nominal

#

14.367 IDR per USD

#

Atm

chrome raft
#

ok

full hull
#

@analog wyvern can you stretch to 1.4?

analog wyvern
#

I cant atm =_="

chrome raft
#

at that price you could just get a QK65

analog wyvern
#

But if i had to

#

I might just go with Paylater

#

So maybe i could

analog wyvern
full hull
#

RGB?

analog wyvern
#

Genshin theme

full hull
#

What Razer can you even get for 80$?

#

Just the Cynosa right

analog wyvern
#

In fact i bought a Kokomi mousepad earlier

#

Still in the production atm

analog wyvern
#

Let me check

full hull
#

I'm quite sure it's just a membrane

#

or an old Blackwidow

analog wyvern
#

So far, only Cynosa

analog wyvern
#

1.4m gets the Blackwidow V3

full hull
analog wyvern
#

Ye, i think Razer wouldnt give me more options

full hull
#

The only Genshin themed products from them are going to be too expensive for your budget

full hull
#

The worst version of the Deathadder

analog wyvern
#

At least i used my Go Pay coins so it wasnt that hard

full hull
#

Well that's nice

analog wyvern
#

Like, i saved up 500k

full hull
#

I have the much better Deathadder V2 X

analog wyvern
#

But still

#

A bit better than M590

#

Way better than Redragon

full hull
#

Well if you like how it looks it's still a deathadder

analog wyvern
#

Ye

full hull
analog wyvern
#

I like the mouse so far

analog wyvern
#

What switches tho...

full hull
#

Just choose red

analog wyvern
#

Ok then ^^a

full hull
#

I'm very sure btw that Razer keyboards have literally 0 customization

#

keycaps are non-standard

#

except like the huntsman mini

analog wyvern
#

Hm...

#

Also, looking for Kokomi-theme, looks like its going to be a bit hard...

#

Might just custom the whole keycaps myself at this point

#

And go with color scheme

keen prairie
#

👀 I like that this channel exists.

Anyways I can recommend an RK 61 keyboard with Everglade aqua king 55g switches. Very thock, very nice.

analog wyvern
#

It can be cumbersome eventho i have my Redragon MMO mouse in my inventory

keen prairie
#

Oh whoops, that was just a separate comment of mine since I've never chatted in here. But, I'm assuming the RK 87 is an 87 key version of the RK 61?

analog wyvern
#

Ye

full hull
keen prairie
full hull
#

ngl they remind me of Tecware Pearl Clear @keen prairie

#

@analog wyvern comes with knob too lmoa

keen prairie
#

Haven't used them, new to the custom mechanical keyboard area but I'm super satisfied with my build because I managed to get a pretty good thock

spark hatch
#

Interesting keycap set

keen prairie
#

^ lol

full hull
keen prairie
#

I like the pudding key caps I got from hyper x

#

I'll look into better ones eventually, but for now this is 👌

analog wyvern
#

Shopee Philippines

full hull
#

Yuop

analog wyvern
full hull
#

my shoppee

#

the best shoppee

analog wyvern
#

Cant find it in Indonesia one

#

Might go with white, blue, and pink color scheme (thats the idea, for now)

analog wyvern
#

I will order the keyboard tomorrow

keen prairie
#

Random but I like how you can make tactile switches somewhat/mostly linear by lubing the tactile bump

analog wyvern
#

Also, sadly they didnt ship it fast (took a month with standard shipping)

#

But oh well, i will look into those later

full hull
analog wyvern
#

For tomorrow tho, i will buy the RK87

#

Btw

#

What is the purpose of the PE Foam for the keyboard?

keen prairie
full hull
#

makes it sound better

analog wyvern
spark hatch
#

Fir acoustics

full hull
#

but the best keyboard sound mod is the closed back headphone mod

#

Makes your 40$ keyboard sound exactly like a 400$ one

analog wyvern
spark hatch
#

Hmm

full hull
#

another mod is the memory foam tip IEM mod

keen prairie
#

$400
Ew

spark hatch
#

Lmao

analog wyvern
spark hatch
full hull
#

The Hatsune Miku version I'm guessing

analog wyvern
#

Nope

#

The newer model

full hull
#

They made an Aria V2?

analog wyvern
#

Not really V2

#

But they started the production again for the Aria

full hull
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They're still making the SSR

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Not really, the Aria did discontinued

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But continued again last year

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Like the old Aria from 2018 was iirc very far from the current Aria

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which is more like the KXXS

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Well, at least from what they said

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Mine is newer one

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Got it for like $80

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I ca buy one for 60$ that's an oof

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where did you get that

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Tokopedia, and its the cheapest one out of all sellers sadly

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I bought mine from the official distributor for Moondrop

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No chinese sellers that's a big yikes

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Me, happy with my ~ $120 keyboard

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keen prairie
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Oof

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He said it already i think

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RK61

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I'd be happy with my 100$ build but I wanted to invest in one baord I really liked

keen prairie
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oh yeah I forgot

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yeah Aqua Kings can have that effect

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The aqua kings look epic

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You can't see them underneath keycaps but still, LMAO

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Lmao

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Btw, the last time i tried a keyboard

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Is when i was at high school

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And i think its a membrane keyboard from computer lab

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I had a membrane keyboard before this.

RK 61 on its own felt pretty loud [brown switches]
Aqua kings make it more quiet than my old membrane.

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Nice

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Most of my baords are quite loud

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Are aqua kings pre-lubed?

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Yep

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or are they silent

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Yeah factory lubed

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They're just a really smooth linear

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usually that doesn't end well tbh

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