peripherals

[shut flame]

witch one is better

in your guys opinion

[spark hatch]

Ig I'd go for the second one, but idk anything about those baords so I'd do some research on them

[royal patrol]

sure you just have to pick your budget

[rapid oracle]

Don't buy keyboard parts and lube on amazon

[unkempt dome]

And why is that ...

[spark hatch]

yea, I can agree on the lube, they only have clone 205, but the parts seem fine enough

[unkempt dome]

And why is wrong with clone 205 ... as long as it's not damaging the switches

[spark hatch]

fair enough

[shut flame]

i have to do it of amazon

[rapid oracle]

Why?

They have fake lube, overpriced switches......

[unkempt dome]

Here most time the switches are cheaper on amazon than any other place after you account for shipping and import fees

[spark hatch]

for most switches, some switches are alittle over priced in my area

[unkempt dome]

Well I'm not in the us

[spark hatch]

im cad so

[unkempt dome]

Same

there's not much places where it's cheaper than on amazon ...

Maybe Ali Express

But you'll wait for the stuff for months

[spark hatch]

yea

[shut flame]

bc my parents think everyone is tryna steal there information and i dont want it to take months to arrive

and im in canada so shipping is lik 40 bucks for most switch websites almost more then the item its self

[rapid oracle]

I can't help you about your parents but canada have a lot of keyboard vendors

[spark hatch]

I dont see the issue with just wanting to use amazon

[shut flame]

ima get the bottom pick but macha greens instead of jelly whites

[rapid oracle]

Your money your choice

[unkempt dome]

So where is a better place to buy keyboard stuff than amazon in canada ... that will have better price for the exact same stuff ?

[supple gust]

based

[subtle grotto]

wpm trending up errors trending down

avg 105 wpm today

from 97.8 yesterday

[rapid oracle]

Ashkeebs, idk the price but they sell real krytox instead of fake ones on amazon

[ivory ingot]

hoshizora prototypes

[spark hatch]

that looks quite nice

[frigid torrent]

“14-3-21 for writelapMemory” keyboard error.. what could this mean?

[silent oyster]

Actually yeah lol built a TEX Yoda II for that sole purpose, I think I'm stuck with TEX keyboards for the foreseeable future 😂

The Shinobi looks amazing

[rapid oracle]

R2 will have hhkb right?

[ivory ingot]

there won't be an R2 unfortunately

[rapid oracle]

Ah, I see

I was told there will be r2

[ivory ingot]

not sure where you heard that, but

Oriqin (designer) is my neighbor, i shot the boards for him. he's confirmed that there will not be an R2

he wants to move to other projects that he's had in the tubes for a hot minute

[rapid oracle]

Quite unfortunate

[opaque shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA00USrhOMc

Good shit

Though he doesn't go much into ergonomic designs other than traditional-gone-split designs

[unkempt dome]

And why is it that important that it's fake on amazon as long as it doesn't damage the switches ...

Also how can you be sure that every vendor on amazon have fake krytox ...

[rapid oracle]

I’ve checked it before, 7 out of 10 are fake

Also fake krytox won’t damage switches, it’s just the smoothness and sound will be different

[unkempt dome]

Ok ... I don't care about sound

And about smoothness ... I don't think my switches needs lubing cause they are smooth enough for me

[rapid oracle]

Your money your choice

[unkempt dome]

I chose to keep money by not buying lube and enjoying the switches I have until I'm not satisfied with them

[full hull]

I thought that the problem with Kelowna was that it separates

[dusty cedar]

Anyone have a good keyboard per price range chart or something? Or a suggestion

(Quickly please)

[unkempt dome]

there's nothing like that no

Not that I'm aware of anyway

Usually it's something like : avoid gaming brand and get what you prefer from non gaming brand ...

Also there's someone selling a realforce board not too far from me ... would only take 4 hour round trip to get that ...

Sadly it's full size ... it's a good price ... would be great in an office environment

[ivory ingot]

tobruh so lit

[shut flame]

full sizes arent bad

[unkempt dome]

Full size are too big to fit on my desk

Tkl are too big to fit there but I can manage

[spark hatch]

thats a nice board

[spark hatch]

no theres nothing like that, whats your price range?

[dusk widget]

With doubleshot keycaps, do you see any finger smudge after longterm use?

Or do they still look relatively nice after breaking the keys in

[spark hatch]

if you dont want any key shiny get pbt keycaps

[dusk widget]

Sorry didn’t check back earlier

[dusk widget]

Hmm I was eyeing the k10 from keychron

Since wireless is appealing and I like large keyboards

[spark hatch]

thats teh full size one right?

[dusk widget]

Indeed

[spark hatch]

I'd get it if you like the board, down the road if you dont like the keycaps you can just replace them

its like 40$ for a decent set of pbt cap caps

[dusk widget]

Indeed. Apparently it has raving reviews so that helps too

And yeah I was looking into custom caps for of course the gamer buttons like wasd lol

I’ll look into those pbt caps

Appreciated. Have a good night

[spark hatch]

np gald too help, you too

[worldly shale]

Smudge will happen with any set, the only difference you'll get is that ABS shines quicker than PBT. Just gotta wash your hands and clean the board as much as you can

[jaunty arrow]

Keyboard at my school

[sage barn]

Someone sells a modded gamakay mk61 nearby with lubed brown switches and it's foam modded. Should i buy it?
It's new

[jaunty arrow]

Price?

[sage barn]

50 euros

[jaunty arrow]

Get it

Its a rly good price for a full modded 60%

If its hot swappable i suggest u get smt like radiant red switches for that thock or smt

[sage barn]

Yeah it is hot swappable

Someone from a different server said that the rk61 is better

[jaunty arrow]

But the one u found is full modded

And its basically the same price for mk61 and rk61

[sage barn]

Yeah

[jaunty arrow]

And if u want to mod it, its much less job

[sage barn]

Okay thanks

I will buy this one

Here's the pictures btw

[jaunty arrow]

And it has pudding keycaps

Thats a w

[sage barn]

Aight

[jaunty arrow]

If u dont go for speed of the switch and smt like that, i suggest u get radiant reds or gatreon hippos (imo 2 of the best value switches based on price and sound)

[sage barn]

Okay thanks

[subtle grotto]

new keycaps

[ionic briar]

ery noice

[rapid oracle]

That's the biggest L I've ever seen

[worldly shale]

pudding keycaps are fine lmfao

[subtle grotto]

Hey everyone which one would you pick

[spark hatch]

2

[spark hatch]

pudding keycaps are fine, its all preference man

I personally do agree with you tho

[chrome raft]

why tf do you need so much RGB

it just looks like unikorn puke at that point

[spark hatch]

yea

but if someone likes them idc, if they like them they like them

[chrome raft]

like wHy

i dont get it

[spark hatch]

I have no idea

[vale mist]

I mean not everyone uses the rainbow puke preset

the main benefit of RGB is to be able to change to whatever color scheme you want, like if you change your wallpaper and want to match it

[spark hatch]

true

[chrome raft]

you could just get different keycap sets

[spark hatch]

thats expensive if you change setups alot

and if you want that glow from the caps most other caps are gonna block that

[chrome raft]

ik

there was a meme the other day on r/mechanicalkeyboards

[spark hatch]

oh I see

im not on reddit so

[chrome raft]

oh ok

[crimson isle]

also helps for those using the PC at night and/or in some poorly lit room like many who buy RGB keyboards, actually do

[worn storm]

unicorn puke mode is at least useful for seeing how good the color range is on the RGB

[autumn swift]

Which one should i use? Top one is a Razer ornata and bottom one is a exibel GKX5. Both are membrane keyboards.

Both have some issues like a wobbly spacebar.

[vale mist]

just set the color to white and see which one has better color accuracy

[sage barn]

Or turn it off

[vale mist]

which would make it really difficult to tell what keys your pressing without touchtyping

[worn storm]

that can be pretty heavily effected by color of the switch housing and caps

[vale mist]

not really

I've seen RGB products with a almost yellow "white"

sure if you like warm color temperature that would be nice but at least give me the option to do something cooler without having to literally mess with RGB values

corsairs keyboards have a yellow tinge

for example

[outer citrus]

Keycap soup

[worn storm]

Lol, made a bowl last week, 9 year old thiccc PBT still going strong

[crimson isle]

reminds me of one RGB product I've got, where of the 255/255/255 RGB scale, if set to something like 165/125/75 (R/G/B) it is still blue

even tho the value of blue is the lowest and less than half of red

[worn storm]

Sounds like they just put zero effort into color mapping

[crimson isle]

only actually starts getting yellow or orange when I do 255/145/25

[worn storm]

Lot of products offer "RGB" but are really just giving you a voltage for r g and b with no accounting for the differences in the 3 LEDs used

[crimson isle]

255/255/255 is light turquoise

it still works, just takes a lot to get the colors to match

[worn storm]

Think I'm running my main case RGB at something like 18/15/3 to get a dim white

[crimson isle]

65/25/0 for me

just yellow

[vale mist]

I want product makers to start using adjustable color temperature white leds along with the normal rgb

[crimson isle]

I want them to do RGBB, red, green, blue, brown

[worn storm]

not a huge fan of wrgb, it gets brighter sure, but the saturation is terrible at bright values

[crimson isle]

because brown is like, barely ever possible

you can sort of get brown

[vale mist]

well brown with light isn't possible

[crimson isle]

dark dark orange

[worn storm]

brown only really works with subtractive color, not additive

[vale mist]

whether the color is brown depends on centext

technology connections made a great video on how brown works

[crimson isle]

I know, seen it

you can get close enough, had it on my keyboard

tho you can't set it bright at all

[worn storm]

Well no kidding, the color is defined by its darkness

[vale mist]

well yea, once you go brighter its just orange

[worn storm]

would rather see a yellow subpixel than white honestly

[vale mist]

thing is I like pure white

I used to spend hours just trying to get the RGB values on my things perfect

[crimson isle]

pure white doesn't exist, just like pure black doesn't exist (even tho it is getting awfully close to it)

[vale mist]

pure white as in as close as possible

[worn storm]

I mean purple isn't a thing either, but semantics

[vale mist]

all these RGB companies advertise about what's it 16 million colors

[crimson isle]

How many possibilities is there, with 0-255 for each

🤔

[vale mist]

add the alpha channel

for brightness

[worn storm]

there is no alpha channel when talking about light, additive color being what it is

[worn storm]

16,777,216

[vale mist]

yea nvm

[crimson isle]

Why is black light called black light when it is purple

[vale mist]

it's uv isn't it

[worn storm]

because they don't bother filtering out the visible end of the spectrum from most consumer "UV" products

[vale mist]

also maybe because consumers would be like, "this is broken"

[worn storm]

Commercial and military UV sources are completely invisible to the eye and quite fun with nightvision

[crimson isle]

Maybe

[crimson isle]

Making vacuum cleaners obnoxious because “if it ain’t obnoxiously loud it is probably performing worse”

[worn storm]

More or less, anything sufficiently "bright" is quite dangerous when it doesn't emit visible light because people don't get any reaction to look away and damage their eyes

[vale mist]

that's true

[crimson isle]

I would pay millions for a vacuum cleaner that is actually quiet, and not a jet engine destroying my hearing on top of my breathing

[worn storm]

They don't cost nearly that much

[crimson isle]

They aren’t quiet

[worn storm]

Can't get much quieter than nothing but air noise at the nozzle? Centralized Vacuum systems have been around a long time and are fairly quiet

[crimson isle]

Tho I would also want an extra loud one just to annoy the neighbours who blast folk music

[spark hatch]

the only reason I own a vacuum:

[worn storm]

I believe the proportional response to that is a klaxon

[crimson isle]

I should learn Bagpipes to annoy them

[vale mist]

nah just get a powerful speaker amp and some low quality speakers to overpower their music

[crimson isle]

Just standing infront of their door while it is 35’C outside, so they either listen or overheat

Because broke people

[spark hatch]

I hate boards that screw that up

just give me a nice bright white

[vale mist]

exactly why I think rgbw should become standard

with adjustable color temp

[spark hatch]

yeaa

[subtle grotto]

are u sure

[spark hatch]

Uh

I think so?

First one is deeper

[subtle grotto]

doesnt the first one sound deeper and poppier

[spark hatch]

Yes

It does indeed

[subtle grotto]

why'd u pick 2

curious

[spark hatch]

Uhm

I mean personally I'm not a fan of deep and "thocky" boards

I do t really have a good reason lmao, I listen to the first like 5~ seconds of each and liked the second one

[subtle grotto]

yea but both are kinda deep already but wouldnt a board kinda be better when its much poppier

[spark hatch]

But now that I've actually listened through the whole clip of both I do like the first one abut more

[subtle grotto]

first one o ring mounted heh

oh and i didnt need to remove the plate dampener

[spark hatch]

Oh sick

Yea I had only listen to maybe the first 5 seconds of the 2 and liked the sound of 2 more but 1 sounds alot fuller now that I've actually watched through the whole video

[subtle grotto]

and surprisingly the cherry profile caps i bought dont have intereference on north facing milky yellows

[unkempt dome]

Not all cherry profile keycaps have interference

[subtle grotto]

yes ive read that too

so i was hoping there was no interference

total build costed like 55 usd

[dusty cedar]

Anyone got a good key cap puller that works without problems they can reccomend

[ionic briar]

anything that looks like this would work super well

[dusty cedar]

Oh shoot lol i meant switch puller

[spark hatch]

kenetic labs switch puller is alr

[ionic briar]

oh
then anything that looks like this

[dusty cedar]

Hm well thats good

[subtle grotto]

hey, would you guys get a pom or polycarbonate plate?

[spark hatch]

I like poly better

[subtle grotto]

saw someone do this 😀

[subtle grotto]

alright thanks

[spark hatch]

d a m n

thats kinda

mmmmmm

[shut flame]

building this on thursday

[spark hatch]

Nice

[subtle grotto]

plan to do any modding other than lubing ur switches?

[shut flame]

ill prob add packing foam

i have it from a old 30 dollar keyboard witch is what im using right now

[subtle grotto]

should tape mod too

[shut flame]

maybe

i got to see if i have the proper tape

and ill do a band aid mod with the stabilizers

[rapid oracle]

Amazon moment

[shut flame]

i have to use it😢

[rapid oracle]

Amazon is the last place you should look if you want to build custom keyboard

[spark hatch]

We've already been over this

[shut flame]

i think we have had this conversation before

[spark hatch]

It doesn't matter, they've already said that's there is only choice

[rapid oracle]

[shut flame]

and amazon switchs arnt that badly priced

or key caps

[rapid oracle]

Amazon keycaps have pretty poor quality

And the board you are buying have a lot of issue iirc

[shut flame]

depends what ones u get

[rapid oracle]

Those looks like the worst ones lol

[spark hatch]

Not hotible I've had worse

[sleek elk]

could of just bought a hot swappable 60% and removed the switches

[spark hatch]

Depends one hat ones you get tho

[shut flame]

i couldnt find one that wasnt the same price

[rapid oracle]

If you’re low on budget you shouldn’t go for custom in the first place

[sleek elk]

https://www.amazon.com/RK-ROYAL-KLUDGE-Ultra-Compact-Multi-Device/dp/B08613PF77/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1KVN4RVHOGXVT&keywords=60%25+hot+swappable+keyboard&qid=1648012585&sprefix=60%25+hot%2Caps%2C292&sr=8-5

[shut flame]

its the same price

[sleek elk]

is it?

[shut flame]

yes my prices are in canadian

[sleek elk]

oh yh

https://www.amazon.ca/EPOMAKER-Swappable-Mechanical-Dustproof-Waterproof/dp/B08BBTR5JP/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1SKT27XF4M73Z&keywords=60%25+hot+swappable+keyboard&qid=1648012688&sprefix=60%25+hotswappable+ke%2Caps%2C293&sr=8-5

replace the switches and ya have a barebone

[shut flame]

theres import fees and it wasnt on sale before and its 1 pin hotswap

[sleek elk]

rip

@shut flame https://www.amazon.ca/MAXFIT61-60-Mechanical-Keyboard-Swappable-Programmable/dp/B099PTK6PY/ref=sr_1_8?crid=1SKT27XF4M73Z&keywords=60%25+hot+swappable+keyboard&qid=1648012688&sprefix=60%25+hotswappable+ke%2Caps%2C293&sr=8-8

[shut flame]

it was what i was gonna get but it was only 1 pin hotswap

[sleek elk]

3 and 5 pin

[shut flame]

outemu

[sleek elk]

;-; kk

[rapid oracle]

outemu cringe

[boreal rivet]

you need to rid yourself of that superiority complex of yours

[full hull]

Ajazz and Akko CS fits so like that's basically the entirety of the budget switch market

[shut flame]

yea i know but i want to upgraded it down the way

[full hull]

Yeah so you can upgrade to Akko CS or Ajazz Diced fruit

[shut flame]

no proably a durock switch

[full hull]

JWK tactiles?

[shut flame]

no durock t1 smokey

[full hull]

Yeah a JWK tactile

[rapid oracle]

I'm saying it's cringe because there are better options

[boreal rivet]

some people dont have access to those other options

[rapid oracle]

Rk series are the cheapest yet one of the best

[full hull]

90 cad

[rapid oracle]

Wireless, hotswap socket, not outemu

That’s really budget

Also keychron k series are very cheap too

With even better options

[full hull]

100 cad

[rapid oracle]

That's retail

[shut flame]

the cheapest keyckron thast hot swap is like 120 cad

[spark hatch]

c1 is like 50$

usd

[full hull]

welcome to canada

[spark hatch]

already there lmao

[shut flame]

its 96 cad with 20 dollar shipping

[spark hatch]

other than shipping keychrons offerings dont seem to go up that much

[rapid oracle]

Still cheaper than the build you were originally getting

[shut flame]

no its not

[rapid oracle]

[shut flame]

i thought u ment the board

[rapid oracle]

c1 is way better than the board you're getting

[full hull]

How much is duty in Canada again?

[spark hatch]

I paid 30 last time

[full hull]

Though if you are getting Keychron iirc in Canada MemX is the only distributor

[shut flame]

they still mark it up bc u lose money when u convert currnecy

[spark hatch]

I think, let me check

[spark hatch]

nope you can buy directly

[shut flame]

for 50 dollars shipping

[full hull]

But pay duty and shipping from USA right? @spark hatch

[spark hatch]

not for me

yes

[full hull]

https://oneofzero.net/collections/keychron
oh wait no this is the distributor

[spark hatch]

it was 25$ for shipping and duties

[full hull]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/search?search=Keychron+
@shut flame you can get Keychrons here

or the one of zero palce

[spark hatch]

wasnt that bad for me

[spark hatch]

best buy has keychron?!

[shut flame]

thats 28 usd

[full hull]

Apparently

[spark hatch]

nah thats cad

[shut flame]

it says us

[spark hatch]

oh shit

nvm my bad

[full hull]

You didn't check the Keychron where to buy section? @spark hatch

[spark hatch]

didnt know that existed lmao

[sleek elk]

(don't scan the code this guy recives your discord account) butis this real?

[chrome raft]

Best keyboard?

[sleek elk]

keychron? (not paid to say this)

[chrome raft]

Thanks

[solemn gust]

heylo

[subtle grotto]

no best, all preference

[solemn gust]

same with iphone vs android

[subtle grotto]

yes comes down to preference

people keep comparing their flagship iphones with low to mid tier androids thats why lmfao

[solemn gust]

yeah

its very dumb

at times I feel there are only like 5 people who are actually smart

[chrome raft]

its just what OS you like better

some people like iOS some people like android

not that hard

[solemn gust]

yes

[chrome raft]

and also some slight hardware differences

[solemn gust]

only real talk is android vs another android (in some cases)

[chrome raft]

its like do you want your smartphone to be more integrated or less intergrated

[worldly shale]

do you want a phone you can fix or one that deliberately breaks after a year

[full hull]

even among android there are like plenty of versions

Some people like MiUI, some people like Color OS, some like stock

[chrome raft]

true

[cunning anvil]

i got a Bluetooth pcb, super excited

[spark hatch]

sick

I also recently got a bluetooth board but im yet to actually use it in bluetooth mode

[chrome raft]

ok

[clear urchin]

so I need some keyboard tech support. not sure if I should ask in here or the tech support channel. Gonna ask in here first and Ill delete if not appropriate.

Im in between keyboards right now an im using an old wired mac keyboard. Anyone know how to make the media keys on this thing work in windows 10?

if it helps its a model A1243 keyboard

[steady hatch]

some things just wont work because mac

heard of this issue its pretty common

[chrome raft]

you might also want to ask in tech support

mostly here we give help on buying desicions

and other stuff

[subtle grotto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL9AhKh__es

[spark hatch]

ngl here I feel like its edited

[subtle grotto]

no.. thats the real sound of his thocky gmmk 😱

[spark hatch]

damnn

I odnt believe it

[subtle grotto]

ikr so thocky

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=116675.0

69% nice

[spark hatch]

n i c e

[versed oak]

Are there any good, modern keyboards that have media control buttons (including volume) and the calculator button and a numpad? My Dell SK-8135 broke.

[sharp raft]

mechanical or no?

and is price a problem?

[full hull]

Only think I can think of are those everest keyboards

You want this kind of top row right?

[versed oak]

Yep!!!

[full hull]

EVGA Z20

Where do you live @versed oak

[versed oak]

The US.

[full hull]

Yeah I think maybe it's literally only the EVGA Z20 since it has a reprogrammable macro row

[versed oak]

Hoping for under $35. Depends on what else it has to offer.

[full hull]

Unfortunately @versed oak at that price there isn't anything remotely close

[rapid oracle]

EVGA keyboards 💀

[full hull]

https://www.amazon.com/EPOMAKER-Bluetooth-Wireless-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B08N48PRHT/ref=sr_1_3
maybe this

but you lose some macros

but you fan do fn + f10 iirc to open calculator

Volume wheel and media control is a bit hard to find

[versed oak]

Does it also have a way to use a numpad? I actually have applications that require it.

[full hull]

no

[rapid oracle]

Could just buy a leopold fc900r

[full hull]

no media keys, dedicated macro, and rotary encoder

this is like the #1 requirement

[spark hatch]

Yu could get a external one

[full hull]

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-811-W1-20US-KR/dp/B08VNSGVX5/ref=sr_1_1
this is maybe the "cheapest" option that fits the requirements @versed oak

but it's still 95$

[versed oak]

Looks like I will just need to buy another SK-8135 on Ebay.
Thank you for your time and expertise, I appreciate it.

[rapid oracle]

That is better than buying some overpriced EVGA keyboards

[versed oak]

I hate how keyboards these days all have so many bells and whistles while also lacking all the ones I need.

[spark hatch]

Did you look at the Everest?

[full hull]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185278435739
@versed oak you can get a refurb one

[full hull]

super out of budget

[spark hatch]

Ah

[full hull]

refurb > used imo

[versed oak]

Ooo, that is better than the cheapest offer I found so far, thanks!
bookmarks it

[full hull]

Last one in stock btw @versed oak

so like you know

[versed oak]

👍

[vague skiff]

Rk61 I better

I got mine brand new for 30 bucks

Istg it was a steall

[chrome raft]

based but doesnt meet his requirements

[sharp raft]

sheesh, is mechanical a requirement?

[versed oak]

Nope.

[sharp raft]

best go with the sk8135 again then, not too many alternatives around that price that meets your requirements

[chrome raft]

true

its optical and optical switches suck

[ivory comet]

Hi, is there someone who know anything about QMK based keyboards?

[spark hatch]

possibly, what are you lookin' for?

[crisp meteor]

Goodbye iCUE!

(just got my Ducky One3 TKL ... I'm a happy guy!)

[hybrid spruce]

whats the best gaming keyboard what is silent ?

and not expensive

[worn storm]

Honestly nothing comes to mind there

[spark hatch]

keychron c1 and then get silent switches from like akko

[spark hatch]

pretty nice

[silent oyster]

Try MechanicalKeyboards.com, especially if you're close to one of their in-person locations they have SUPER cheap mechanical keebs that are returns and stuff. Online idk but I assume they'll have decent things for lower prices and a lot higher quality than most stuff on Amazon. Friend of mine picked up a Cherry branded board for $5 XD

[silent oyster]

Ooh for used check out r/HardwareSwap and r/MechMarket

eBay you're typically gonna spend 20-50% more thanks to eBay fees and hassle/likelihood that the seller gets scammed out of their money

[south delta]

Rate my keyboard

[south delta]

Google be like: zero rusults in 999,999,999,999 years

[spark hatch]

like maybe a 3

[south delta]

3 fr

[south delta]

It’s also moded

[spark hatch]

what mods?

[spark hatch]

oooo, nicee

[unkempt dome]

Thanx

[fickle belfry]

Nice !! No side bezels . I like how it looks.

[full hull]

akko makes silent switches?

[spark hatch]

oh probably not

Idk a scratch about silent switchs

I thought they did but they probably dont

[shut flame]

just finished making my first keyboard

[spark hatch]

sick

[spark hatch]

got a pic? curious how amazon pulled through

[shut flame]

1 seconed lemme take the pic it sounds really good

there

@spark hatch

[full hull]

Akko Matcha Green

[shut flame]

yep

took me 3hrs to take apart and lube them

[spark hatch]

very nice

[shut flame]

the color reset i need to swapp it back to purple

[spark hatch]

actually looks better than I thought it would

I dont like the keycaps but thats preference so

[shut flame]

i like the keycaps

[spark hatch]

yea

my 65% build is a "disgrace" lmao

[unkempt dome]

Not yet but i think there's one coming

[olive spindle]

is royal kludge good brand?

[quick pulsar]

Yeah I think they’re decent budget keyboards

[olive spindle]

kk
ty

[outer citrus]

just ordered a new keyboard

[untold orchid]

Btw vaxee is making a keyboard as a collab with some other manufacturer and it will be hot swap. Thats all the inside info I have on it

[spark hatch]

What one you get?

[outer citrus]

keychron c2

[spark hatch]

Sick

It's a board, I think you'll like it

[outer citrus]

i chose not to get a tkl

mainly cause i have enough mouse space for a full size plus i might need a numpad in the future

[spark hatch]

Fair enough

Hey did anyone see gmmks thing?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbc9atJsXqT/?utm_medium=copy_link

[rapid oracle]

Yes, it will likely be trash

[spark hatch]

Is it jsut me or is that look like a down grade from gmmk pro?

[rapid oracle]

When you first thought nothing can be worse than the gmmk pro, gmmk 2 appeared

[spark hatch]

Yea, it looks like shit they litterly copied any 10$ kb you can find on Amazon

Like the design

Lost the gasket mount, not that it was very present on the gmmk pro but at least they had it, lost the knob

[boreal rivet]

its meant to be a successor to the original GMMK

its literally written there on the product page

[spark hatch]

oh my bad I missed that, it still looks like garbage tho

[rapid oracle]

The whole gmmk lineup is trash anyway

[spark hatch]

they're mice fine ig, I personally dont really like them but as someone who values adjustable debounce times, there's not many options

[chrome raft]

the gasket mount on the gmmk pro is stiffer then a tray mount

[spark hatch]

true

[worn storm]

Yea, if you like typing on a rigid brick like old school steel plate boards, honestly the pro fits the bill. Definetly not the meta of the community atm though

That said, not sure why glorious gets as much hate as they do given the output of companies like corsair and razer

[spark hatch]

thats very fair

they are sorda trying to make budget enthusiast boards tho and this feel like the wrong direction

[vale mist]

imo glorious should send reviewer samples more to expose kinks before it gets fully released

[worn storm]

Their execution of certain features has been quite questionable for sure (Gasket mount, stabs in general holycow how were they that bad)

[spark hatch]

their stabs were honestly impressively bad, I have a 20$ board I got off amazon that has better stabs and they're plate mounted

[spark hatch]

that be nice

[worn storm]

Yea, replaced the stabs with 15 year old plate stabs and it was a massive upgrade

Kind of disturbing that I own 15 year old stabs at this point now that I think about it....

[spark hatch]

and yet they whent out and called them goat stabs

[worn storm]

Yea, most of their "custom" stuff seems to be questionable. Stabs, switches, ect

[spark hatch]

nah, I still have my first keyboard I ever owned

[worn storm]

Same, first gen Filco Majestouch

[spark hatch]

they're glorious pandas arnt terrible? I haver heard anything horrible about them

[worn storm]

On its 3rd set of caps

[spark hatch]

apple magic keybaord lmao

[worn storm]

Bought a set, they ended up in my trade bin quite quickly

[spark hatch]

is that even what it was called back then actually? it came with my 2005 mac thats about all ik

ah

whys that?

[worn storm]

Not a fan of the feel, weight, and the actuation point just feels friggin weird

[spark hatch]

ah I see

never tried a rounded bump switch, doesnt sound apealling to me

[worn storm]

I tend to always be trying out new switches and apparently I'm very picky given how few I've kept in a board for any length of time

[spark hatch]

I would like to try more but I already know what I like, 2mm pre travel, mid tactile bump, and 2mm post travel.

[worn storm]

I think the only non-linears I've got in anything atm is a set of QMX-clipped MX browns in the majestouch and box whites in my ergodox

[worn storm]

qmx-browns are kind of interesting in that regard, lots less pre and post travel and super quiet

[spark hatch]

thats an interesting switch

[worn storm]

Yea, its a pretty different experience with the really short travel but very well centered tactile and actuation

Seems like my "type" seems to be 40-45g linears thought I don't mind light tactiles while programming

[spark hatch]

ah

I like heavier tactiles, currently been daily driving kenetic labs penguins they've been pretty nice

also been using box whites in another build, not a very heavy bump tho not my fav, might try like box navys or maybe jades

[worn storm]

One of these days I'll finish my custom, need to do another PCB run since the last had some design errors resulting in the magic smoke comming out

[spark hatch]

what kinda board you making?

magic smoke is sub optimal

[worn storm]

Its an 1800 layout driven by 3 FPGAs, overkill in every possible sense of the word

[spark hatch]

oh thats nice

[worn storm]

Screwed up my USB-PD implementation resulting in too much voltage hitting the 2 secondary FPGAs

[spark hatch]

ah

[worn storm]

That said you know your designing something stupid when you NEED an aluminum chassis for heat dissapation

[spark hatch]

lmfao, water cooled keyboard when?

[worn storm]

Lol, not sure what hardware I could even put in it that'd require water

At least the PCBs aren't too bad to run, the "main" pcb with all the switch sockets and such simply sockets the controller assembly into a pair of headers underneath, only need to remake the controller PCB

Had a feeling I wouldn't get it 100% right the first time and large PCBs are expensive even with few parts so modular FTW

[spark hatch]

ah thats good

[worn storm]

Still stings quite a bit, BOM for the controller board is still over $200. Safe to say we'll probably never see a commercial design like this (and thats probably a good thing)

Original prototype using a single fpga got latency down to 13ns (on linux, windows REALLY doesn't like absurd input rates)

[spark hatch]

oh damn, yea thats a dent

[crisp meteor]

My first TKL, and also a massive upgrade from the Corsair's I've been using. I do have lube and will at least do the stabs (also a first time thing for me). Already very happy with the quality of it. Feels great, and sounds so superior to what I've had before. Still haven't tweaked the lighting (going to make that mouse matche the motif more

I switched to TKL from 100% to get that extra area for my mouse. I do like having a numpad, but I think I'll adapt

[chrome raft]

nice

[crisp meteor]

thx mang

[spark hatch]

looks pretty nice

[crisp meteor]

Thanks, I like it. Also got my new case today. So when I've moved the build from my old (temporary) case to the new one (O11 Air mini)I'll throw some pictures. In any case, it works for me 🙂

[spark hatch]

oo nice

I really wanna get fractal meshify c mini but I cant find it instock anywhere 😦

[royal patrol]

if the meshify c mini uses the same front intake as the standard mesh c i recommend finding a different case

[crisp meteor]

Yea, I actually built the system at the end of January... but Newegg fucked up the delivery of the case (twice)... so I just waited until I could get it from somewhere else. In the meantime it's been installed in my old Corsair 600Q,,,which is very sub-optimal for what I've got right now, but worked. I left a side panel off so it could get the air that I just didn't have enough fan mounts for.

(Just typing that last bit, I need to do the stabs on the space bar because it sounds a bit "clocky" vs everything else_)

So, I really get not being able to find case stock on what you want! (Fractal Torrent was in strong consideration for me)

[spark hatch]

I have to have a micro atx build, whats wrong with the front of meshify?

[crisp meteor]

<==also mATX

https://linustechtips.com/profile/400280-silent-node/

[royal patrol]

the meshify c's front intake is as restrictive as the old solid front fractal cases, they really improved it with the meshify 2 and beyond

[spark hatch]

cant you just take teh front foam stuff out?

[crisp meteor]

^

[spark hatch]

real smooth

[crisp meteor]

yea.... nobody saw that 😏

[sleek bronze]

new keyboard

The real reason

[fringe path]

it's good ay 😉

I love my uhk for that reason 😉

[plucky badge]

Question: What is the average lifespan of a laptop's keyboard?

Long story short, mine just failed recently after nearly 3 years of use, and i use it constantly, probably like 12 hours per day. The reason why i asked this is because i don't wanna argue with my parental guardian about my laptop choice when i bought this one 3 years ago.

Thanks in advance ( do ping me if reply )

[crimson isle]

Depends, probably ain’t going to last long if you eat and drink with it

[chrome raft]

Also depends on what laptop it is.

[unkempt dome]

13 years old laptop ... keyboard still works good as new

[subtle zealot]

What are some good switches i can put in the keychain q2

[unkempt dome]

What kind you like ?

[spark hatch]

what kind of switches do you like?

[unkempt dome]

Is there someone that is knowledgeable in old typewriters, specifically Underwood no.5 dating from around 1930 to 1935

[spark hatch]

ive do a full restoration on one but I wouldnt say im knowledable, what are you lokking to know tho? I might know

[unkempt dome]

Make the bell work

Seems like it's not working all the time

[spark hatch]

mm yea im not to sure sorry, if you disasemble it you'd be able to see the mechanism tho, that would be a good start

[unkempt dome]

Also the front button ... it's supposed to ring the bell right ?

[spark hatch]

I believe it should yes

[unkempt dome]

Here that lever inside ... that the bell lever ... is there supposed to be a spring at the bottom of it ?

Like right there

[spark hatch]

maybe? im the wrong guy to ask, myn was fully functioning jsut very corroded, id try asking a forum

[unkempt dome]

Ah I see ...

Which lube do you use on that ?

Super lube ?

Same as for the switches ?

Anyway I like the clack of that thing

[spark hatch]

I used some really light lube from work Im not to sure what it was, some sorda transmission oil?

super lube work probably work pretty well tho

[unkempt dome]

Ok I'll check that out

[crisp meteor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/typewriters/comments/6w9gf9/lubricating_oil/

hope that helps...and cool typewriter! 😉

https://www.reddit.com/r/typewriters/comments/21zpri/what_you_should_know_before_cleaning_your/

[placid totem]

i know its like super obscure... but does anyone know any places that sell bee based deskmats?

[unkempt dome]

I think they have that on the varmilo website

[placid totem]

ah just looked and they sadly dont

ty anyway tho

[spark hatch]

I saw one jsut not to long ago, I can't remember where that was unfortunately tho sorry

I'll let you know if I can remember

[subtle zealot]

Linear is my preferred but I don’t mind tactile

[spark hatch]

Ah I'm the wrong guy to ask, I don't like linear so idk many

Lubed gat yellows are pretty nice but those are budget, there's much nicer options out there

Uhm also heard that alpaca v2s are really nice linears

[unkempt dome]

boba L4

maybe

[subtle zealot]

Thanks guys I’ll create a sample pack with some of the switches you have mentioned and choose from there

[unkempt dome]

tecsee carott maybe

[subtle zealot]

Is good?

[unkempt dome]

some akko linear like matcha green maybe

no idea ... I have the carott but haven't tried it

only tried gateron yellow and cherry red and one other that I don't really remember

[fringe path]

there was one as part of the bee keycap set going through the standard groupbuy guys but I suspect they're all gone

[full hull]

Also try Ajazz Diced Peach and Tecware Pearl Clear @subtle zealot

[copper escarp]

guys ive a question, so i have this second keyboard that i want to use for macros ive been following the the guide of linus tech tips with luamacros but ive no idea what to do can anyone help me? fyi: I want to use a key on my other keyboard to be push to mute in discord, and in games to be voice chat if that is possible, im completely new into this whole section haha

[spark hatch]

Google it, there's got to be other guides

[subtle zealot]

Thank you very much for your contribution 😁

[sleek bronze]

You can have custom deskmats on AliExpress

[placid totem]

ah right ok thank yoiu

[rapid oracle]

I see you’re a hhkb enjoyer as well

[cold pecan]

No time and willingness to change lube and change sliders as well as domes though 🥲

[rapid oracle]

Stock sliders and domes are still very nice

Can’t wait for my hhkb pro 3 to come

[cold pecan]

I wanted to increase the tactility and to be able to use mx keycaps

[rapid oracle]

Deskey topre Mx sliders are nice, but they are on the pricey side

[cold pecan]

Yeah and the stabilizers can break your keycaps, I got novatouch ones from someone and ended up being ever so slightly less than what deskeys charges

[cunning anvil]

ordered a choc ble pcb(a), hype

[onyx oriole]

Benefit to any non full sized keyboards?

[spark hatch]

they're smaller, take up less room

preference

[chrome raft]

as a typewriter collector, i could give it a shot

[unkempt dome]

Is there a way to make the bell ring every time it's supposed to ?

[urban glade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/900978963319513108/957435119348641853/MG_5109.JPG hhkb good shit

i need white printed pro2 sometime~

[wheat vigil]

https://epomaker.com/products/epomaker-ep84?sca_ref=450109.wjDF4oHK4N&variant=39483400912969 Opinions? Currently own a Vamillo VA87M sea melody. How would this fair

[tough forge]

anyone have a good recommendation for uniuqe keyboards ? like split mechanicals , or ergo ones ?

im looking to add to a collection and want to try some weird ones

[rapid oracle]

Wait for keychron q8

Or mountain alice if you want the true weirdness

[cunning anvil]

5 col corne is funny

6 col corne is cheating, 6 extra keys is busted

[chrome raft]

cyberboard

75% with a screen

[worldly shale]

mechwild OBE isnt particularly weird by any ergo standards but it looks funky enough that id reccomend it

[compact scaffold]

Is the NZXT keyboard worth it for its price? Should I buy it or go with a different keyboard company with more experience?

[spark hatch]

dont get the nzxt keyboard, its very bad

look at keychron's offerings

[sleek bronze]

:o

It's like a corne choc but with one more key right ?

Don't know if I'd want this extra key

But my next keyboard will be a choc spaced split 40ish% yeah

(got a corne currently)

[chrome raft]

its probably the worst keyboard you can buy right now

[spark hatch]

wdym by that?

[chrome raft]

oh ok i just realized i made a typo

im actually so stupid

changed it

[spark hatch]

ah that would make alot more sense

yes it is that

right up there with corsair and logic

[chrome raft]

the only good thing about it is that its hotswap

[spark hatch]

pretty much

[chrome raft]

so better then corsair but not really

corsair keyboards probably might be better then it

[spark hatch]

I actually dont mind there implimentaion of a knob, but ive heard its pretty low quality

[chrome raft]

knob looks ugly AF

i hate it

you could probably do a qk65 build at that price

[spark hatch]

oh wiat Im thinking of the wrong kb, I thought there knob was at the top right, not hanging off the side beside esc

I liked the uhm, owl studio smthn I think it was called, it had like a mouse rotary knob hanging off the side

[chrome raft]

voice65?

[spark hatch]

thats the one

[chrome raft]

oh that one

the knob looks ok

[spark hatch]

I dont really like the big knobs you find on like the gmmk or q1 knob, they look big and clunky to me

[chrome raft]

the knob on the voice65 is sandwiched between metal

i personnaly dont like the look of it

[spark hatch]

yea, I dont mind the look of that

[chrome raft]

ok

[worn storm]

gmmk pro knob is definetly a bit too large, hard to grab and turn without rubbing fingers on the nearby keycaps

[spark hatch]

yea

[chrome raft]

based

[cunning anvil]

would be nice if it didnt have those extra columns, tho planck mindset ig

[spark hatch]

I mean Idk about hitting keys I dont have a gmmk but I do agree the knob is too big

but thats preferance

[cunning anvil]

would love a 37-40 key choc

but i cant seem to find choc 4x10s lol

[keen basin]

do you guys have any recommendations for cheap pbt keycaps?

[spark hatch]

ive had ok luck with some amazon sets, they arent high quality prints but they're thick enough to be alr

kenetic labs keycaps also arnt too exopensive

and they're quite high quility

[keen basin]

pretty much the vibe iv been getting from amazon

ok

il check em out

[spark hatch]

amazon does not have high end keyboard parts

[keen basin]

ya obv

but im trying to be budget

[spark hatch]

fair enough, yea I've had ok luck with amazon but def not high quility

[full hull]

Corsair PBT Pro iirc on amazon prime day

can go very low

[spark hatch]

here wait I think I actually got a set on a board atm

[full hull]

How cheap is cheap anyways @keen basin

[keen basin]

like not smt like 10$ btu like 30-50

mabye 60

[full hull]

https://kineticlabs.store/keycaps
@keen basin

[spark hatch]

yea kenetic has pretty cheap one

[full hull]

https://www.amazon.com/TAI-HAO-Profile-Keycaps-Compatible-Keyboards/dp/B08W56W35R/ref=sr_1_2
@keen basin Tai Hao Cubic

my personal favorite budget keycaps

[spark hatch]

I've got these: PBT 135 Keys Japanese Keycaps Cherry Profile DYE-Sub White Theme Minimalist Style Suitable for Mechanical Keyboard https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08L7YXQ43/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_108GJXNS16J49P6215QN?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[full hull]

Those are quite expensive 40 CAD

[spark hatch]

There the most budget I've got, and they're actually not terrible

[keen basin]

ya i was thinking those

[spark hatch]

Yea true, that's the most budget I personally own tho

[spark hatch]

If you were wondering how they look:

From far they look nice but up close they have abit of bleed and spear fuzzy

[keen basin]

i mean for 40$ its not that bad

[full hull]

40 CAD

[keen basin]

ya im in cad too

[spark hatch]

Oh, btw that space bar in picture isn't the one it comes with, the space bar that set come with is the worse part sadly

[keen basin]

what space bar is that?

[spark hatch]

It seems to vary, but myn came alittle bent and you can tell where the stems are, it's not a nice cap compared to the rest of the caps

[spark hatch]

Stock one with that baord, veryyyy low quality

That's a 20$ keyboard lmao

[full hull]

Oof Tai Hao Cubic is 80 CAD

[spark hatch]

Yea~

[full hull]

@spark hatch this set looks identical tbh

[keen basin]

buying a cheap keyboard and modding it is a power move ngl

[full hull]

and I can get it for 20 CAD

straight from China

Through my favorite chinese keyboard/accessory supplier

[spark hatch]

Yea cad is spotty some stuff has alr conversation and other stuff skyrockets in price

[keen basin]

ya...

[spark hatch]

It's decent, def not as good as getting a good board but it's definitely fun

I have 3 heavily moded budget boards

[keen basin]

ya the modding of it is why i got into this hobby

iv only been in this for a few months tho

only one board

for now

[spark hatch]

yea same pretty much, I have one really nice board that I've put alot of time into tuning, and then 4 other boards I tinker with

well ig not really nice, Its just a keychron q1, but the only thing stock on it at this point is pcb and case

[keen basin]

i dont think il buy a expensive board, the price is menacing but at the same time i never thougth i would blow 130 on a board in the first place so idk

and buy expensive i mean like over 100

[spark hatch]

q1 is only 150 I think

or like 200 with shipping and everything

[keen basin]

ya like thats how much id wanna spend on a board in total

but i might splurge one day

[spark hatch]

fair enough

[keen basin]

who knows

[spark hatch]

I think I unfortunately have a 500~ $ board?

[keen basin]

wow

[spark hatch]

ahvent added it up offically but I think that be pretty close

[keen basin]

hobbys like this rly lure u into buying stuff

ppl are fine with 20$ boards

[spark hatch]

nah

keyboards aint terrible

[keen basin]

and god forgive cherry blues

there the worst im in rn

[spark hatch]

lmao, me with box whites, and navys

those are clickies if youre not aware

[keen basin]

ya i figured

i was doubel checkign ngl...

atleast there not scratchy

[spark hatch]

hear me out tho, nice clickies sound alr

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/919720016285429770/956440991135576094/20220324_003133.mp4?size=4096

keychron k6 with uhm

[keen basin]

wow

[spark hatch]

alot of stuff I forget it all

[keen basin]

u put me onto good clickies

that was surprisingly good

[spark hatch]

those are box white

[spark hatch]

exactly

clickies got a bad rep form mx blues

[keen basin]

very

[spark hatch]

click jacket clickies are 🤢 but click bar clickies are very 👌 if you like/can put up with the nouce

noise

[keen basin]

u said click bar twice

is it click jacket or am i dumb

idk much abt clickies

[spark hatch]

oh shit sorry, click jackets are bad

[keen basin]

i did not know there was a diff

due noted if i ever buy clickies

[spark hatch]

click bar clickies have a jacket that sits around the stem giving them a down stroke click and added rattel from the jacket being loose

click bar have a bar that the switch hits and makes the bar click once on down stroke and once on upstroke, and since they're attached to the switch and not loose they have 0 rattle

best explination I got without like a picture

[keen basin]

ya i get it

[sleek bronze]

Switches?

[cunning anvil]

pcb/board with 4x10 keys

[sleek bronze]

Oh, then you have the corne choc version
The chocorne, it's 42 keys @cunning anvil

Oh wait by 4x10 you meant the matrix arrangement?

[cunning anvil]

yes, i keep finding 4x14

12

[chrome raft]

fun fact: i know nothing about 40% board group buys

[rare crown]

is the Redragon Rudra good?

[chrome raft]

what is your buget

[supple gust]

and in general are dogshit

[rare crown]

50 usd but in Bulgaria thats more like 40

[chrome raft]

ok

layout?

[rare crown]

like full

[sleek bronze]

It's not a group board ^^

[chrome raft]

ok

thats hard

[spark hatch]

Yes

[thin roost]

Hello!
What can I use to lube my switches, but at home (as in DIY, not having to buy any lube)

[worthy forge]

lube

😏

[thin roost]

don't have it

[worthy forge]

no dont do that sorry

lol

[thin roost]

Can I use something like wd40

[worthy forge]

I dunno

[thin roost]

Or like silicone lube?

[worthy forge]

uh i probably wouldn't recommend wd40

[thin roost]

why not

I'm lubing stabalizers btw

The space-bar is really bugging me

[worthy forge]

ah

then yea try it

its a dirt magnet though

be careful

[thin roost]

who has dirt on their pc desk?

I'm not running a construction company lol

[worthy forge]

god you dint even want to know how many people hsve caked on dust on their own desks

seen some shiz

[spark hatch]

do not use wd

wd is a corrosive lubricant it'll eat the plastic housing

[rapid oracle]

Get 205g0 for linear and tribosys 3203 for tactile

[spark hatch]

dust

[worthy forge]

as long as its not polystyrenes or polycarbonates its hould be fine

could be wrong tho

im not a wd-40 expert

[spark hatch]

I still wouldnt recommend using wd, it is a lubricant but its main purpose is a rust breaker/decomposer

[thin roost]

so what do I use in that case?

[spark hatch]

tbh I would just go buy some 205g0 its not that expensive, and if you want to fix your stabilizers you're gonna want a thicker lube, not a full liquid

[worthy forge]

but rust is an oxide, corroding an oxide on iron doesnt apply to all plastics and metals

[thin roost]

It is expensive for me, sanctions closing everything down here

And shipping is basically already out of the question

[spark hatch]

can you get dialectic grease?

[thin roost]

what's that?

[spark hatch]

true, but would you put wd in a switch?

doesnt sound like a good idea to me

[worthy forge]

diarrhetic grease

[thin roost]

Oh, I googled it, nope

[spark hatch]

and ive had wd eat plantics on me in the past

[vale mist]

you need a thicc lube for stabs

[worthy forge]

no lol but because i'm not that huge of a keyboard nerd

[vale mist]

wd40 is far too thin

[thin roost]

I'm not lubing switches, I'm lubing stabalizers

[spark hatch]

yea

[spark hatch]

ik, but wd is wayyyy to thin fro stabs

[worthy forge]

feed it, whoper

[spark hatch]

switches would be its only use if you really had to lube smthn with wd

[thin roost]

What about silicone lube?

[vale mist]

wd40 imo is only viable for springs and that's a big if
idk if it would cause corrosion

[ionic briar]

might degrade plastic tho

[spark hatch]

it wouldnt corrode, wd eats at rust

[spark hatch]

I think it would

[thin roost]

I've heard some people tell me they used vaseline, is that a option?

[ionic briar]

nope
petroleum based lubricant and thermoplatic doesnt go well with each other

[vale mist]

why not just go to a local home improvement store, dialectic grease is really common

it's also quite cheap

[spark hatch]

it doeasnt eat at plastic quickly like it does with rust/metal, but over time the plastic will start to decompose

[thin roost]

1. One of those stores is about a hour drive away from me

[spark hatch]

do you have amazon?

[thin roost]

And 2. Ive already tried called said store and they said they don't have it on stock

[thin roost]

Sanctions

[spark hatch]

where do you live may I ask?

[thin roost]

Well, the country which is currently at war with a country who has yellow and blue in their flag

[ionic briar]

oof

[thin roost]

can't say the name though, message gets deleted

see

[spark hatch]

oh

I see yea

I assumed it was there but I was just confirming

[thin roost]

Mhm

[worthy forge]

rip

best of luck to you bro

stay safe

[thin roost]

So just, what will work well as stabalizer lube, that can be comonly found at home?

[thin roost]

Thank you

[spark hatch]

well I've never used a silicone lube but you could maybe try it?

[worthy forge]

an organic secretion...

[vale mist]

I'd say that's your best bet

silicone lube

[thin roost]

I'll try it when I get home

[spark hatch]

I'd see if you can fugure out if its petroleum based before you do anything tho

[thin roost]

I'll check when I get home, what's the issue with petroleum though?

[spark hatch]

petroleum, commonly used in gasoline, eats plastic

[thin roost]

Oh

Thanks for the memo

[worthy forge]

dam, keep nicki minaj away from gas stations

[vale mist]

based opinion

[rare crown]

https://desktop.bg/keyboards-aula-13150059
https://ardes.bg/product/redragon-rudra-k565-cheren-k565r-bk-105685
which keyboard do I buy

[spark hatch]

whats your budget?

[rare crown]

50usd

[spark hatch]

have you looked at keychron or leopold? they're much higher quality than those

[rare crown]

they are like twice as expensive as those

or not available

[spark hatch]

keychron c2 is 40$ base I think

[rare crown]

its 85usd where I live

[spark hatch]

but if thats your firm budget I can think of a better option, just know those board you listed are very low quality

[rare crown]

ok my keyboard is worse then those

also shipping

[spark hatch]

oh yea I kinda forgot about that

[rare crown]

bruh

free shipping bs its just in the base price

[spark hatch]

maybe someone has a better board suggestion but for 50$ I cant think of anything much better

[spark hatch]

thats a better config, and they would have also had to play shipping

[rare crown]

a handbag for a Leopold is 50usd

[spark hatch]

leopold is on the higher end but the'yre very nice boards

[rare crown]

this is my keyboard

[spark hatch]

why are so many budget boards water proof, why tf is that a feature

[rare crown]

https://www.pazaruvaj.com/klaviatura-c3111/f:cena=3/?orderby=1
heres like website the price limmit like 85 idk what is good

[rare crown]

the water proof is holes through the board

[spark hatch]

yea

where are your from may I ask?

[rare crown]

Bulgaria

[spark hatch]

ah

[rare crown]

I should just have it in my name tbh at this point

but no name change perms :(

[spark hatch]

it seems to only really have larger oem brand boards

probably the best option from that website would be the red dragon?

[rare crown]

it compares like a lot of bulgarian estores so its not just 1 its like 90% of stores that sell keyboards in my country

https://desktop.bg/keyboards-all?brand_id_in_all=all&format_keyb_id_in_all=all&keyboardtype_id_in_all=all&page=5&per_page=25&price_btw_all=all&search[price_gte]=&search[price_lte]=&search[s]=price_asc&search[type_keyboards_id_in][]=2&utf8=✓&warranty_size_btw_all=all
theres also like this

[spark hatch]

ah, thats unfortunete

[rare crown]

yea and buying abroad is either more expensive or more wait times

[spark hatch]

yea again Id probably go with the red dragon over everything else there

[rare crown]

keycrons website doesn't allow me to delete items in the cart

I have to click the - before I click on the cart

[spark hatch]

pretty sure theres an x or smthn

but if you dont plan on buying from them then it really doesnt matter

[rare crown]

there isn't

[rare crown]

I can only afford the cheapest keyboard from them

[spark hatch]

c2?

[rare crown]

oh wait thats a kaycap set

[spark hatch]

, , ,

c1

or c2

[rare crown]

yea no the C1

shipping is 27usd

[spark hatch]

I think in there cheapest lineup

sadly yes

and its dhl

only complaint with keychron, theyre shipping and there shipping carrier

[rare crown]

yea

[spark hatch]

must jsut be you, top right

[rare crown]

that just closes the cart

[spark hatch]

oh, well then you're intended to just hit the -

[rare crown]

well I guess redragon is the only way I can go

https://www.emag.bg/klaviaturi/sort-priceasc/c theres like this website

idk if it will have something different

[spark hatch]

give it abit, maybe someone has a better alternative, rn most poeple in north America are at work or school so

[rare crown]

every day this haunts me

theres also like this

[spark hatch]

tf is that a space ship

I hate baords that look like that

like whyy

[rare crown]

idk but its everywhere

https://www.emag.bg/klaviaturi/price,between-70-and-85/sort-priceasc/p2/c
better link

[spark hatch]

it is sadly, mostly cheap budget

I cant read any of these so I cant really say if its good or bad, im basing my assumptions off the picture lmao

[rare crown]

same but cause idk whats good

http://bloody.com/en/product.php?pid=11&id=129 yea this is the curse

[spark hatch]

bloody makes a keybaord?1

wait is this even the officail website

[rare crown]

idk

https://www.bloody.com/en/products.php?pid=11 I think this is the official website

[spark hatch]

It might be I just dont remember there site not being encrypted and such

[rare crown]

its just the cursed keyboard

[spark hatch]

yea

bloody mice are pretty cursed too

[rare crown]

EXTRA DYI