peripherals

[stable ice]

Not ANSI

[spark hatch]

keycaps are pretty common in my area at least

ah I see

[stable ice]

they're way harder to find for me

I prefer the fat enter key

but yeah

I want more RGB

So I decided pudding

But idk which exact ones to get, black or white too. My board itself is black

[spark hatch]

yea I have no idea for pudding caps

im assuming hyper x's dont come in iso?

[stable ice]

they do

there's other options too

Steelseries

[spark hatch]

ah

[spark hatch]

yea those were the ones I was thinking of

[stable ice]

yeah

maybe steelseries idk

[spark hatch]

I perosnally like tho look of hyperx's but thats just based on there packaging so thats a pretty poor representation

[surreal bridge]

hi ltt people, I'm going to buy a ducky one 2 mini (don't shame me ik it could be better)

my question is just:

black or white with this setup

thank you!

[spark hatch]

doesnt maatter, do you like the look of the white one or black one more?

black would match everything else and white would just stand out, I think they would both look nice

[thin roost]

And ruin the warranty?

[night pecan]

buy a diy one

or make a diy one

[thin roost]

Its literally just the space-bar, shift, enter and all the other ones are fine

[thin roost]

Order it for me?

[night pecan]

those tend to be quite important

[thin roost]

Oh and then pay 100+ dollars for customs to actually let you ship it into the country

[night pecan]

yeah

[thin roost]

No Biggie can just end up for 300+ dollars

[night pecan]

thats not much

[thin roost]

bruh

Its alot for me

[night pecan]

its fine then

[thin roost]

Especially with all the sanctions

[night pecan]

not everyone can afford a good keyboard

you don't need a good keyboard

others work perfectly fine

whatever works best for you

[thin roost]

bruh, how do you call a keyboard bad just because of one stabalizer

[night pecan]

good keyboard is a luxury item after all

[stable ice]

what's happening

[thin roost]

it really isnt

[stable ice]

luxury

[thin roost]

@night pecan is claiming that just because of one rattly stabalizer a keyboard is bad lmao

[night pecan]

[spark hatch]

all stabilizers stock are rattly if they dont come prelubed its smthn you're gonna have to do

[subtle grotto]

still? LMAO

hes been saying that since earlier

[spark hatch]

ikr

the stabs dont tell you if the keyboards good or not, I can put durok v2's on a 20$ keyboard. its still gonna be a 20$ keyboards. its still gonna be trash

[subtle grotto]

oh my god what is this shit take

[night pecan]

stabs is one of factor

never said it was all

there are several factors contribuing to a good keyboard, and having non-rattly stabs is one of them

along with having good quality keycaps, and good quality lubed switches

[unkempt dome]

Lubing is optional

Preference

[spark hatch]

.

yea, I world recomend people to lube stabs tho,

[unkempt dome]

Stabs yeah sure ... switches ... not all switches require lubing

[night pecan]

true

[spark hatch]

yea

[night pecan]

boba u4 are quite nice stock

but any linear needs lube

[unkempt dome]

I don't do linear

[boreal rivet]

u gonna say gmk only too?

[night pecan]

gmk is very good yes

theres a few other decent keycap makers tho

CRP, Leopold, Cherry Dyesubs

but having shitty stabs ruins a keyboard tbh

[boreal rivet]

🧢

[spark hatch]

I'm gonna have to disagree, they might not look as nice or feel as nice to the touch but its not gonna ruin a build, the typing experience is gonna be basically the same

[night pecan]

ok

[boreal rivet]

i agree with the stab thing but thinking only crp, leopold and gmk make good keycaps is some real cap

[night pecan]

truly good stuff yes

there are other

"adequate" keycaps

hk gaming pretty nice for $40

shitty company tho

[boreal rivet]

i know whats good and what isnt thank you v much

[night pecan]

okey

[rancid pebble]

Hk gaming 🤢

[formal dragon]

Patiently waiting for my 4 kilograms of keyboard

[spark hatch]

dhl express 💀

[full hull]

damn what's that like 20% shipping

even from china all of my stuff gets shipped free

are you like in some US territory in the pacific

[subtle grotto]

80 usd shipping the heck

[subtle grotto]

i like how the pe foam mod makes for a kinda softer bottom out lol

[brazen aspen]

not having to tape stuff in place on a board also makes it good

shame that can't be said about the aria

[ionic briar]

the moondrop aria?

[crimson isle]

that's nothing, it would've been 620$ here

[crimson isle]

don't click

[subtle grotto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvTSLRab7Kg i can only imagine how typing on a whole keyboard with those sounded like

[solemn gust]

hello

I'm looking for a good keyboard thats not expensive

what are things to look out for?

only thing I want is quite keys

so what switches are gud

[rapid oracle]

What is your budget?

[solemn gust]

I'm not looking for a specific keyboard just advice for what to look out for

I'm not really sure of my budget but def nothing much

[rapid oracle]

If you're looking for prebuilts, red or silent red will be the most quiet ones

[night pecan]

i like leopold

[solemn gust]

thanks, prebuilts is what I'll go with since I don't care about custom keycaps and "tactile" bumps

[rapid oracle]

Same, I want leopold's 1800 topre

[night pecan]

where muh fc750c

why all these weird layouts

[rapid oracle]

Just get a realforce

[night pecan]

realforce are ugly

soz

[rapid oracle]

Novatouch...?

[night pecan]

only good the stems

chassis isn't that great

[rapid oracle]

Yeah I heard it sounds ass

Hhkb?

[night pecan]

i like tkl

i need arrow keys and function for daily use

hhkb probably good for travel

or compact

[patent dock]

me too

[solemn gust]

I don't use arrow keys that much but I can't use a keyboard with no arrow keys

idc about compact keyboards and shit

[spark hatch]

I like 75%

its got everything I use but is a fair bit smaller than a tkl

[night pecan]

75 is fine but tkl is prettier imo

i don't like the thicker bottom bezel

but i can see why people like it

[spark hatch]

thicker bottom bezel?

[surreal bridge]

the white is really pretty but i wouldnt want something that stands out that much

[spark hatch]

idk, if you like white i'd get white

or vice versa

[proud rapids]

First of all i am a keyboard noob,
I need a hotswapable full keyboard with media controls, cause i want to use the banana split switches on it
Everest max is abit on the expensive side for me
Thanx in advance

[spark hatch]

what layout?

[proud rapids]

Qwertz

German

[spark hatch]

sorry, I mean like what size

[proud rapids]

Full with numpad

[spark hatch]

keychorn c2 is a good option

or theres um

[proud rapids]

It doesnt have avolum knob or wheel :(

[spark hatch]

oh my bad, uhm I dont really know any full size boards with a knob

[proud rapids]

The only one i could find after alot of googling was the everest Max

But it it will cost me over 300 euros all in all

Thats abit exlensive my wife would kill me

[spark hatch]

ah

yea full size isnt quite as common amongst enthusiast boards, especially more speccial ones that have knobs and such

I mean another option is just a separate numpad

the keychron q3? is a tkl board and then you could just use a separate numpad

its not released tho

[proud rapids]

The programs i use at work need a numpad sadly

[spark hatch]

yea, have a tkl and a numpad separate

so for example

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q3-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard

https://www.amazon.ca/MQUPIN-Mechanical-Numeric-Computer-Approved/dp/B07QP64P5K/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2XC6ZFPC3ACNB&keywords=mechanical+number+pad&qid=1647378415&sprefix=mechanical+n%2Caps%2C924&sr=8-6

[spark hatch]

this has a knob btw, just not in there picture

just an idea

[proud rapids]

The everest max looks like a better option at this price

Thanx dude for the help

Mwah

[vale mist]

do you absolutely need a knob? most keyboards have a fn shortcut for volume and media

[spark hatch]

^

[proud rapids]

Not really but izs nicee to have

The numpad is important

Otherwise tge c2 loooks great

Keychron c2

[spark hatch]

ehh, the q3 is an all aluminum build, it's much higher build quility

[spark hatch]

its a very nice board for its price

[proud rapids]

I am still a noob hehehe

I want to use the banana split switches so bad, i hope they will be great

[vale mist]

the c2 comes in hotswap so if you want to try a bunch of different switches easily

[spark hatch]

yea

[proud rapids]

I guess it will come to it in the end

I need to explain it to wifie though hehehe

Thanx guys

[spark hatch]

np glad to help

[patent dock]

I made my caps lock shift and my shift is now a Numpad layer:
so like shift+q is 1
shift+w is 2
shift+c is for 9 and shift+space is 0

and then fn q through c are ctrl+number for macros

[spark hatch]

damn

[patent dock]

all on the left hand

:p

I use a lot of keyboard shortcut chords at work

[spark hatch]

thats handy, what do you use teh macros for?

ah I see

[patent dock]

dev work mostly

although the original idea for the binding came from trying to set up for mmos

so like in ffxiv you can cast with numbers for hotbar 1 or ctrl numbers for hotbar 2

wasd to move

so if you hold shift it becomes hotbar 1

if you hold fn it becomes hotbar 2

its a bit clunky but it works

[spark hatch]

ah I see

interesting

[patent dock]

Don’t ask me what things are I’ve been piecing this board together for years

[spark hatch]

lmao, thats a pretty nice board

[patent dock]

I like it has arrow keys

While still being 60% u kno

[distant solstice]

Nzxt now has custom keyboards

[patent dock]

Lmao what

Link?

[spark hatch]

really?

[distant solstice]

https://nzxt.com/collection/everything-clicks

[spark hatch]

im willing to bet its pretty bad

[distant solstice]

I want that mouse pad

[distant solstice]

All off the shelf stuff

[spark hatch]

looks really small

[distant solstice]

Multiple sizes for everything

[patent dock]

They don’t offer hot swaps

[spark hatch]

hmm, maybe idk if im convinced tho

[spark hatch]

oh yea that is nice, what board is that?

[patent dock]

Uhhhhhhhhhh it’s a poker 3 case

The pcb is a dz60rgb hot swap iirc

I got sick of my poker not having qmk

God knows where I got the pcb foam but i cut it to fit

[spark hatch]

ah

[patent dock]

Not really an off the shelf product

But it’s my daily driver :p

[spark hatch]

well it looks quite nice

[patent dock]

Thank uuuu

[spark hatch]

dude there switch tests are sooo quite

[patent dock]

Switches for the most part are Zealio 78g but I have others for different things

[spark hatch]

those blues sound tolerable

[spark hatch]

ah thats neet

I never really got into teh differnt switch for differnt things, kinda feels pointless to me

[distant solstice]

Idrc for the keyboard I just want a clean desk pad with nothing on it

[patent dock]

I don’t think it’s pointless bc there are so many companies that make switches it’s like trying a new flavor

But some switches have specific appeal

[spark hatch]

it has there logo so its not super clean

[patent dock]

I like the zealios bc they’re smooth but Have a nice bump

But also 78grams is not for everyone

[distant solstice]

But it’s not colored in if you have a desk pad with absolutely nothing on and white or grey please give me link

[spark hatch]

well yea, I try new switches all the time but I swap the whole board not just acouple switches

[patent dock]

Ahhhh that’s true

[distant solstice]

Sad razer keyboard noises

[spark hatch]

lmao

I had the logic g915 for over a year

[patent dock]

I more make a board graveyard as I steal pieces and upgrade mishmashes

[spark hatch]

everytime I go back to use it I die alittle in side and question how I used it for so long

[distant solstice]

I have had mine for just over a year and since I got it I cleaned it once… last weekend

[spark hatch]

ah, thats kinda cool

[spark hatch]

n i c e

I clean myn (with air) everytime I dare even see a piece of dust on it

I want it to stay as fresh as possible for as long as possible, I hate deep cleaning my baords

[patent dock]

I’m gonna be honest I don’t think I’ve ever cleaned any of my boards

[spark hatch]

yikes

I mean if you dont use them in a dirty environment or like eat beside them or anything they can stay pretty clean

I live in a very dusty old house so basically everything I own is dusty asf

[patent dock]

Ahhh that makes sense

[spark hatch]

my pc cant make it a week without look very obviously dusty

[patent dock]

My pc gets so dusty lmao

I’ve stopped bothering

[spark hatch]

ah, I have a temperd side pannel and after 4ish days you can start to see dust build up on the side of the glass so I clean it, It bothers me knowing its dirty

[patent dock]

lol im just hard to bother

[spark hatch]

fair enough

[patent dock]

I think the closest thing I have is I got a couple drips of superglue on my monitor

so theyre just there

lol

[spark hatch]

I wish I could just push it asside but nope I cant not notice how dirty it is

[patent dock]

why not get a case without a panel?

[spark hatch]

how does that even happen lmao

[patent dock]

i dont even remember

[spark hatch]

idk at the time I was on a budget for the case so I got the cheapest one I could find on amazon that wasnt complete garbage

so I ended up with the coolermaster nr400 I think its caleld

[patent dock]

ahhh thats fair

cant argue with budget lmao

[spark hatch]

I'd love to get the lianli q58 but then I need to get itx board, new powersupply, ect

and idk if I wanna spend 500$~ on a semi out dated system thats if im being honest isnt even that good

[full hull]

New NZXT peripherals

Mouse looks like dogshit

[spark hatch]

it really does

[full hull]

Omron 20M

I wonder what OEM are they using for the keyboard

Bruh why tf are reviewers calling the function entry level lmao it's 120$

[spice juniper]

I didn't know those were a thing, saw Optimums video on them, now i wanna forget they exist again

[spark hatch]

they were just realeased

[full hull]

I mean yeah the form factor is nice

Full compact 75%

Wait not compact 80%

[spice juniper]

Does seem cheaply made in some, if not all, areas

[spark hatch]

yea

[full hull]

Is this the first full 80% compact?

Looks fucking weird

Aliaz switches can't be too expensive

[spark hatch]

is it?

[full hull]

Not exactly expensive prebuilt keyboard switches

I meant

[spark hatch]

oh I see

[full hull]

And when you select them you pay extra over gaterons anyways

[spark hatch]

yea

oh wow, so I've actually looked and listened to the nzxt board now. that thing sounds cheeeeeep

[full hull]

Can I see PCB?

• Soldering quality

[spark hatch]

my 20$ keybaord sounds better than that

[full hull]

What switches they had on it?

[spark hatch]

myn or the nxt one?

[full hull]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/622839/hands-on-with-the-nzxt-function-the-premium-keyboard-for-mech-newbies.html
Le journo says it's great for newbies

The NZXT one ofc

[spark hatch]

I looked at optinum techs one

[spark hatch]

I thik reds?

[full hull]

Plastic case steel plate

Is this a RK84

Yeah it's going to be 200$ for an Aliaz equipped keyboard

That's really not worth it

[spark hatch]

I dont think so, maybe it could be a modified version tho?

not at all

especially with keychrons q lineup

[full hull]

Definitely modified cheap OEM

[spark hatch]

yea

[full hull]

Rotary encoder on the left

And 80% compact

Not the usual 75%

[spark hatch]

the scroll wheel on it especially sounds bad

[full hull]

Which is the only thing innovative about the keyboard I think

[spark hatch]

yea

it doesnt really have anything going for it

if it was cheaper maybe it'd be an alr budget option but its priced way too high

[full hull]

Wait is the mouse the symm 2 wired?

[spark hatch]

I havent heard of that mouse, it could be

[full hull]

Seems worse though tbh

Omron 20M

This shit is literally just going to be bundled their prebuilts

[unkempt dome]

I would like the layout if there was no F row

[rancid pebble]

There’s a wired and wireless version

[rancid pebble]

Frl tkl

[full hull]

Yeah ik but like viper clone that has flimsy build

Sounds like Pwnage's OEM to me

[rancid pebble]

Yup

Man I wish there was a rvm wireless

Also I wish I could improve my lod on my rvm

[unkempt dome]

Tkl is too big for my liking

[spark hatch]

Yea

[rancid pebble]

65%

[unkempt dome]

F row is useless to me but I like to have standard bottom row

[spark hatch]

Exploded 75 is my fav

[rancid pebble]

Just look at all the layout options

[unkempt dome]

Only the drevo calibur I found to have what I would like for layout ... but it's not hotswap

[rancid pebble]

That’s frl tkl

Frl=f row less

[unkempt dome]

Then would have been easier to understand if you said that in the first place ... I though it was some acronyms for some kind of obscure insult or something like that

[rancid pebble]

Not many Frl tkl prebuilt a that I know of

And others are customs

[unkempt dome]

Well I got the akko 3068b anyway and I'll just deal with the bottom row

[spice juniper]

I'm really considering going down to TKL since the only reason i stayed with a Numpad is gone now

[rancid pebble]

That’s 65%

[unkempt dome]

Yes I know it is

[rancid pebble]

If u want a good prebuilt I say go leopold

[rapid oracle]

nzxt keyboard is a fucking joke

It's not good at all

[full hull]

I was literally joking about Le journo

How like tech journos are always wrong

If you're just going to misrepresent everything I say then I'm just going to block you

[subtle grotto]

any thoughts?

[spark hatch]

its deep

[subtle grotto]

Tes68 (Steel Plate)

Stock Tes68 Stabs (Clipped, lubed and holee modded)
Gateron Milky Yellow (Lubed w/ 205g0 & springs bag lubed)
Random OEM PBT Keycaps
Tempest mod (3 layers), PE foam mod and thin case foam

[subtle grotto]

thats nice to hear

[spark hatch]

those are milky yellows?

damn

I havent heard them quite that deep before

[subtle grotto]

yups

they've already broken in btw

[spark hatch]

ah

[subtle grotto]

i mean the lube

[spark hatch]

yea yea

sounds very nice

[subtle grotto]

yea and for 45 dollars goddamn

first ACTUAL custom mech keyboard lols

idk if ill oring mount it or not

or just like stay to tray mount

[spark hatch]

ah

I've just stuck with try mount on my cheapo boards

but it might be cool to try a oring on it

[chrome raft]

980 Mini w/ Ninjutso OOX

[subtle grotto]

looks clean!

[spark hatch]

oo that looks quite nice

[shut flame]

https://www.amazon.ca/EPOMAKER-Pieces-Mechanical-Keyboard-Replacement/dp/B092PZG2HD/ref=sr_1_14?crid=36PYSG5SX0P9H&keywords=mechanical%2Bswitches%2Bepomaker&qid=1647463694&sprefix=mechanical%2Bswitches%2Bepomake%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-14&th=1 what one should i get from here?

[unkempt dome]

Akko lavender purple are quite good tactile

[chilly perch]

my girl wants like, typewriter style keycaps but on a perwinkle/purple base with white text. . . how the fuck would I possibly find or even make something like that

[spark hatch]

look on ali express maybe?

[chilly perch]

I have been searchin lmfaoo

[supple gust]

as an alternative, have you presented pudding caps? there’s some really nice pudding caps out there

[chilly perch]

I havent but its probably a no cos she wants the stupid typewriter style circle caps

[shut flame]

https://www.amazon.ca/Keycaps-Mechanical-Keyboard-Gaming-Circle/dp/B09DCZFPBB/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2N9TLWKXAE1MP&keywords=circle+keycaps&qid=1647475232&sprefix=circle+keycap%2Caps%2C133&sr=8-4

those idk

[subtle grotto]

bought this lol, good thing there was a local store

[chilly perch]

I'd considering just buying some white ones and dying them

but how would I possibly keep a white text on the front

[supple gust]

press F to pay respecc

@chilly perch these come in pink and blue? I’m gonna look a little more tho

https://www.thepnkstuff.com/collections/keycaps/products/typewriter-keycap-set?variant=32101204164661

[chilly perch]

I was thinking

How the hell do factories dye sublimate entire keys?

I dont think thats a viable path to do

[supple gust]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004022659684.html?ad_pvid=2022031617182710420612055752780006695538_2&s=p

wtf

is

this

cancer

[chilly perch]

wow

virgin extreme

[supple gust]

thank you SO much for exposing this to me trying to find you keycaps lmao

jk

[chilly perch]

loool

[unkempt dome]

That set is great

At least it's not belle delphine themed

[chilly perch]

So I wonder how those keys are manufactured

cos in every DIY dye sub video they use printed sheets but how would you wrap "artwork" like that around the entire key and make it sublimate and look good

[unkempt dome]

Maybe they hydrodip

Or some similar process and then apply some heat ...

[chilly perch]

it must be

[unkempt dome]

That's what I imagine it would be but it might completely not be that too

[subtle grotto]

have yall seen this :_)

the pain

the fucking pain

[spark hatch]

bruih

why would you send this

[subtle grotto]

suffer with me

[spark hatch]

I am

[solemn gust]

the red switched I'm finding have sound and I'm confusion now

[spark hatch]

reds still make sound, silent stitches make very little sound but not many boards come with the option to get them stock

[solemn gust]

I dont want to work on my keyboard ever

except for maybe cleaning

I just want a good quite keyboard

[spark hatch]

you dont even swap switches?

[solemn gust]

no

I don't feel the need to

[spark hatch]

then I dont think you're gonna get silent switches

I dont know of any board worth getting that has them stock

[solemn gust]

I'm not looking for a specific board

just the right switch

[rapid oracle]

Leopold have super good build quality and I'm sure they have silent red switches

[spark hatch]

I realise, theres not many options with silent switches

[solemn gust]

if its on amazon I'll get it

[rapid oracle]

I think it is...?

Not sure tho

[solemn gust]

depends on country as well

if its in my country's amazon

[spark hatch]

just get hotswap and the silent switches separate, it takes like 10 mins to swap a baords switches

[solemn gust]

I don't want to swap it

neither can I swap

[spark hatch]

then no silent switchs

yes you can?

most boards come with a switch puller

[solemn gust]

I can't

[spark hatch]

why not

[solemn gust]

many many reasons

[spark hatch]

ok?

[solemn gust]

tf is this

[spark hatch]

a piece of garbage

[solemn gust]

yeah

they pulled out a laptop keyboard xd

[rancid pebble]

What’s ur budget

Cause for around $120 u can get a leopold keeb with silent cherry reds

[solemn gust]

idk but like not lot

[rancid pebble]

Will be mushy but still silent

[solemn gust]

they don't sell here

[rancid pebble]

What country?

@solemn gust

[solemn gust]

India

not a lot of options

only using amazon

[worldly shale]

don't get silent reds

they're just reds but mushier

sound dampening on them is ass

get the cheapest outemu hotswap board you can find get with red switches and swap them out for outemu silent whites if you really need a silent boad

[stone meadow]

Yo if u want a good budget keyboard that is great for the price I’d look at keychrons options or if you want to build get a kit off of Ali express and get switches off divinkey or Amazon

[spark hatch]

they wont swap switches.

it has to come with silents stock so thats basically they're only choice

[worldly shale]

if they won't swap them just get regular reds

or browns

i do not reccomend silent reds at all

[full hull]

tbh why not just o-ring

like if it has to be silent

and no switch swapping

like just o-ring it then

I do not think there are any keyboards that have silent switches on a budget

[spark hatch]

I doubt they'll take keycaps off, they want a 0 effort baord

But o rings would work

[subtle grotto]

why it takes no longer than a few minutes lmao

[full hull]

It takes less to swap keycaps yet they won't do that either

[subtle grotto]

damn no offence but thats some lazy shiz right there

[unkempt dome]

Sounds like trolling to me ...

[crimson isle]

Sounds like punching to me

[rapid oracle]

O rings

What a joke

[subtle grotto]

not a joke if u use the big ones for mounting

[rapid oracle]

Yeah, gummy o rings are great

[spark hatch]

thats what I said lmao

[sleek bronze]

I bought an helidox v2 kit
Wanted to get a lily58 but there was a sale on the helidox kit soooo

[spark hatch]

nice

[sleek bronze]

I need to count how many switches I got left, maybe I won't need to buy any

[limber rivet]

Can anyone suggest a warless keyboard on a budget? I'm in the EU.

[spark hatch]

what size do you want?

[limber rivet]

100%

whit a numpad

[spark hatch]

im assuming you want iso layout?

[limber rivet]

Im not quite sure what does that mean can you explain it to me? Sorry

[spark hatch]

oh sorry, iso has the big enter key

like that

[limber rivet]

I have one of these so yes

[spark hatch]

yea ok give me a sec, those are alittle bit less common

[limber rivet]

okay thanks for you're help.

[spark hatch]

wrong layout but if you were willing to switch layouts this is a pretty solid board

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32312450580569

[limber rivet]

And is it expensive or budget friendly?

Not at all let me look up on my region

[spark hatch]

depends on the config, but at its lowest config its 44$ usd

they're shipping is expensive tho, 30$~ usually

[limber rivet]

At us it's 113,72 USd

And thats the cheepest

[spark hatch]

yikes ok, one sec ill do some more looking around

[limber rivet]

I don't mind giving up latency because I mostly code and 3d model Im looking for a not that heavy easy to carry warless keyboard

[spark hatch]

what is your budget specifically?

[limber rivet]

I've seen some Logitech keyboards but...

[spark hatch]

ehh I wouldnt get logic, they're very low quility

[limber rivet]

74,80 Usd but it's worthless as you've seen it lol

Yea

[spark hatch]

im assuming the num pad is a must have?

[limber rivet]

But their headphones are great so i thought the keyboards are good as well

[limber rivet]

Yes for Blender plus Excel

[spark hatch]

alr

[spark hatch]

for most people they'll be fine but from a enthusiast stand point they're very bad

[limber rivet]

Rly I had an HyperX as well they say it's the best but the sound quality was nearly as tin can. lol

[spark hatch]

yea~ like alot of oem boards gaming comunities will say theyre great but as an enthusiast they're basically garbage to me

[limber rivet]

yes I get there is like 3d Dolby atmos or whatever they're saying but it's trash

anyways

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k10-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

thats kinda all I can find for a wireless 100%, maybe someone else knows of one? but I dont

[limber rivet]

What about a Razer BlackWidow V3 Pro?

[spark hatch]

wireless and full size isnt smthn you see very often

[limber rivet]

I see Is Keychron that good?

[spark hatch]

again, for most people they'll be fine but from a enthusiast stand point they're very bad

[limber rivet]

lol

[spark hatch]

I mean I quite like them so I could be alittle bias but they just have quite afew options, and they all are pretty decent boards with fairly competitive pricing

other than theyre shipping, tahts a complete scam lmao

[limber rivet]

I found one of them in this layout:

[spark hatch]

96%

[limber rivet]

For 128 USD

Not a good deal I belive

[spark hatch]

maybe not that one, although you dont see a ton of 96% layouts

[limber rivet]

and it's not in my language I thin I either have to give up the numpad or go for wired.

[spark hatch]

what language does it have to be?

[limber rivet]

Hungarian

[spark hatch]

cause you could just get different keycaps

[limber rivet]

My parents say it has to be for school. But I use it for 2% of Hungarian language and 98% for English

Yes but how do you tell the pc that its for example an á key not an a

[spark hatch]

ah, yea if you want it in hungarian you'll probably have to get third party keycaps, I cant think of any board thats sold with that stock

[limber rivet]

I've seen one in wired I belive

[spark hatch]

change you're keyboard layout

[limber rivet]

I see

[spark hatch]

possibly, I also only browse on canadian sites so its very possible ive just never come across any

[limber rivet]

Yes we're in different continents the shipping plus the inflation not even talking about one dollar is 334 HUF you can buy maybe a lollipop whit that so yea our currency never been this week. I believe the war caused this since we share boarders

[spark hatch]

my suggestion would to go wired its not that inconvenient if you get a board with a detachable cable (which most are) and it will really open up your options.

or you could get an external num pad and a wireless board if that sounds more appealing

ah, yea thats unfortunate

[limber rivet]

Okay I guess wired is not a big problem Any suggestions that's not keychrone since the cheapest one is 130 USD at us?

[spark hatch]

leopold has some nice prebuilts

I think they might be abit more expensive tho?

[spark hatch]

https://www.amazon.de/s?k=keychron&crid=28ISDH9GGRQYA&sprefix=keychr%2Caps%2C924&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

https://www.amazon.de/leopold-keyboard/s?k=leopold+keyboard

[limber rivet]

We don't even have that

[spark hatch]

you dont have amazon?

[limber rivet]

No they don't deliver to us

[spark hatch]

hmm ok

[limber rivet]

plus amazons shipping price is usually half of the products price

[spark hatch]

yea im not too sure sorry, if you just wait maybe someone else has a better idea of where to get stuff in the eu

[limber rivet]

Okay We don't have that either If you still have some time I have a list of cheap keyboards if you can tell me which is the best of them I would apricate it

[spark hatch]

yea sure

[limber rivet]

Logitech G413 (920-008310)
Logitech Prodigy G213 HU (920-010739)
For now tmr I will got to my local compute show and see if they can get any of the keyboards for cheep that you said.

Logitech G413 US (920-008476) And this also I know they're all Logitech's but this is the only reputable brand out here

[spark hatch]

they wont have any of the boards I sent

[limber rivet]

Why?

They said they can bring in form out of bounds.

form other countries I meant

[spark hatch]

keychron doesnt ship its baords to stores, they keep everyting in there warehouses, you can only get them online, same with leopold (I think)

[limber rivet]

ohh

[spark hatch]

they'll ship it to you but they dont have any on shelf units

[limber rivet]

I guess maybe the best option is to just stick whit the OM Dell shity keyboard that was given to the office for free lol

[spark hatch]

Logitech Prodigy G213 HU is a no go, it was my first non apple keyboard and I had issues with keys not registering after just a month or so of use

[limber rivet]

ohh

okay I guess its of my list

[spark hatch]

that could have just been a one off tho, but I still wouldnt get cause its membrain and membranes are very ehh

good ego nomics tho, I did like its intigraded wrist rest

[limber rivet]

Its fine for me all tough I've never experienced a mechanical keyboard so I dont know what Im missing out on lol

[spark hatch]

fair enough

[limber rivet]

All my keyboards have been a 10U SD office keyboards that I stole form my parents office

[spark hatch]

I mean tbh take your pick for witch ever one you like more I think they're using the same membrane system so it doesnt really matter

[spark hatch]

n i c e

I mean I used a apple magic keyboard from 2006 for a good 5-6~ years so

[limber rivet]

and are they're any good? As well as are they even compatible whit linux and Windows ?

[spark hatch]

and now I own 5 mechanical keyboards that are scattered throughout my desk just making it more cluttered lmao

[spark hatch]

it should work with linux and windows it 100% works

[vale mist]

isn't the USB keyboard and mouse protocol supported by everything

[spark hatch]

it should be

[limber rivet]

Yea but we're talking about Apple

😂

[spark hatch]

oh the apple magic keyboard

I never used it on linux but it worked fine on windows

I wouldnt buy a apple keyboard tho they're pricy for what you get, if you were gonna pay that much I'd go for the keychron

[limber rivet]

I tought I would look for a used one if they are good

[spark hatch]

I mean they're not terrible

[limber rivet]

Alright maybe I can get a keychrome Anyways I much apricate you're help and have a nice day!

😃

[limber rivet]

You have a lot of keyboards what do you do whit them?!

[spark hatch]

theres a quick sound test if that matters to you at all, ignore how its on top of my keyboard, it takes me a good couple minutes to position my board where I like it and I didnt feel like moving it lmao

[vale mist]

use them

[spark hatch]

idk I dont really use the one in the back of tht picture they're more just projects ig

the one the apple magic is sitting on is my daily driver, then I have a full size for productivity when I need a numb pad, and then I have a 65% for traveling and such

[limber rivet]

wow good for you!

[spark hatch]

np gald to help, ty you have a nice day your self!

[limber rivet]

You too!

[unkempt dome]

Do you have durgod, varmilo and ducky there ?

[spark hatch]

oh yea I kinda forgot about ducky

[unkempt dome]

I would bet on varmilo ... with their customization tool ... you can choose the layout you want

[subtle grotto]

getting consistent 100 wpm now

finally broke free from that 90 wpm barrier lol

[spark hatch]

niceee

[sleek bronze]

I hope my helidox won't be a bother to use for admin sys/programming stuff

Only 42 keys is scary

[sleek bronze]

What did you do ?

[subtle grotto]

jsut kept practicing AHSDFHASDFHASDF

[spare rover]

Has anyone here used ergogen before?

[unkempt dome]

Never heard about it

[spare rover]

It's a keyboard layout tool that creates a kicad file so you can make your own pcb's

[unkempt dome]

Interesting

But I don't see myself using that

[spark hatch]

Interesting

[sleek bronze]

When I made my keyboard I used a python script to "transform" my layout, made on keyboard-layout-editor.com, to kicad pcb disposition

Kicad support interfacing with python and has a small python module for that

import pcbnew
import csv

reader = csv.reader(open("positions.csv"), delimiter=";")
data = {}
n=0
for row in reader:
    n+=1
    key = row[0]
    data[key] = row[1:]

pcb = pcbnew.LoadBoard("Clavier.kicad_pcb")
for i in range(1,n+1):
    c = pcb.FindModuleByReference("K"+str(i))
    c.SetPosition(pcbnew.wxPointMM(float(data["K"+str(i)][0]),-float(data["K"+str(i)][1])))
    d = pcb.FindModuleByReference("D"+str(i))
    d.SetPosition(pcbnew.wxPointMM(float(data["K"+str(i)][2]),-float(data["K"+str(i)][3])))

pcb.Save("Clavier.kicad_pcb")```

It was something like that apparently that I did

It was 3 years ago sooo

[quartz island]

Is the QK65 good for its price?

[spark hatch]

is that the board shoobs just did a video on?

[quartz island]

Yeah

[spark hatch]

I havent looked into it at all, so im not sure, maybe look at some other reviews.

how much is it?

[quartz island]

$150

I think

It’s a 65% keyboard

[spark hatch]

hmm I see

how much is keychrons q2? is 150 aswell I think

[quartz island]

Idk

Any recommendations?

[spark hatch]

im 90% sure its also 150$

[quartz island]

The biggest I want to go is a tkl

[spark hatch]

whats your budget?

[quartz island]

Around 150

Preferably lower

[spark hatch]

I mean keychron q1/2 are quite good

and if you want lower, theres lots of leopold options or keychorn c1

[spark hatch]

it looks pretty good, I would wait for other reviewers tho since the boards isnt officially released yet

[chrome raft]

yeah

nearlucid and shoobs both made a video on it

it has a pretty deep sound profile

like thock

but thock is subjective

i watched the shoobs review and it sounds very deep

[spark hatch]

clack is where its at yea decent board, But I would still maybe hold till afew more people get there hands on it, but thats just me

[chrome raft]

its very premium

like it feels nice

and it looks nice

unlike the bakeneko

which has a cast body

pk65 also is cast

but only the bottom part

qk

qk65

[chrome raft]

yeah you can also make it clacky

by changing the switches

to a hard bottoming out

switch

[spark hatch]

yea ik

[chrome raft]

ik

problem iwth qk65 is that the gasket mounting is so stiff

with

rlly rlly stiff

its not like extremely stiff

but its stiff for a gasket board

and escpecially for a owlabs board

the epoch and mrsuit are all incredible flexible boards

but the qk65 is very stiff

[spark hatch]

I mean that's kinda preference but if you did value flex i'd just get the keychorn q2

[chrome raft]

true

q2 has more flex

[spark hatch]

yea, especially if you remove the stock foam

[chrome raft]

ik

i dont really know any new gasket boards

by new i mean released this month

except the qk65

[spark hatch]

yea, I dont either

[chrome raft]

im not up to date with all the keyboards the subcompanies of companies are making

and also do gummy o ring mount boards flex more?

[spark hatch]

im not sure, I've never tried a gummie mount

[chrome raft]

oh

[supple gust]

keychron k8 pro

Q3 knob is releasing soon too

[chrome raft]

oh nice

[spark hatch]

its a gasket?

[chrome raft]

i think it is

[spark hatch]

I had heard about the k8 but I had no idea it was a gasket

[chrome raft]

otherwise he wouldnt reply under my message about gasket keebs

but actually im not certain about it

[spark hatch]

yea it is, I just didnt realise

[chrome raft]

oh

lol

usually k series keebs arent gasket mount

[supple gust]

it is, so is the q3

[shy barn]

@chrome raft lol I'm in lightmode

[spark hatch]

ha

[rancid pebble]

I don’t think any of them do

Unless it’s a recent one

Then maybe

[spark hatch]

k8 pro

its new

[rancid pebble]

ah

Is it any good?

[spark hatch]

Im not sure, I dont think its even shipped yet

I looks pretty good

[rancid pebble]

Yea I just read the specs

[spark hatch]

I's totally pick one up if I hadnt just bought a 3070ti

[rancid pebble]

$70 for pcb mount stabs, gasket mount, hot swap

[spark hatch]

yea

[rancid pebble]

South facing etc etc

Seems like a steal

[rancid pebble]

Damn nice

Which one?

[spark hatch]

an asus tuf one, I think I have me specs linked in my bio?

[rancid pebble]

Nr400 dope dope

[spark hatch]

yea, ty

I dont really love the look of the screws on the side and side io of k8 pro but still looks really nice

[rancid pebble]

i mean for me i dont mind

its pretty convinient

since they stay on too

for me i would love to go mini itx

just cause the form factor and bored of looking at my nr400

[spark hatch]

what stays on?

[rancid pebble]

the screws

[spark hatch]

I mean they could have put them on the bottom, it was have been alot cleaner

[spark hatch]

yea same, next build tho. still liking the nr400

[rancid pebble]

for me its just too boring to look at lol

normal box look

[spark hatch]

I like myn, goes pretty nice with my setup

[rancid pebble]

i put mine on the ground

since i have wood floor and need more space on my desk

[spark hatch]

ah

Im using a only kitchen table so space isnt an issue

[rancid pebble]

https://www.newegg.com/black-ssupd-meshlicious-mini-itx/p/2AM-030R-00004?Description=ssupd&cm_re=ssupd-_-9SIAS0BE9S3316-_-Product i would love looking at this all day

[spark hatch]

eh

not my style, but it would have good airflow

btw if you wanna talk pc should prolly go to #tech-chat-2

[vocal breach]

hi, im looking into buying a budget mechanical keyboard UNDER 40$ and i found 3 RK keyboards and im confused over which one should i get, should i get the wireless one with blue switches or get the wired rgb one with bluetooth and red switches or the wired only one with software?

im new to mechanical keyboards although was recommended by all of my friends. i saw a few videos and still could not find the difference, so can some dude with omega mechanical keyboard knowledge tell me whats the best?

[spark hatch]

those are all just different rk61 variants I believe, I'd see if they all have hot swap, if not all of them habe hot swap I'd prolly go with the bottom one

[vocal breach]

this?

[spark hatch]

yea

[vocal breach]

thanks

[spark hatch]

hot swap means you can quickly swap the switchs

[spark hatch]

if you could bump up your budget just abit, keychron has some very nice options that are alittle bigger tahn 65%

[vocal breach]

how much? higher

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c1-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39767300603993

if you could I would recomend getting the hot swap variant but it is 10$ more so

[vocal breach]

thanks! one small issue shipping to my country costs 34$

[spark hatch]

yea thats normal

but if you could fork out that much, its very worth

[vocal breach]

i see, but at this point with shipping if i managed to save that much couldn't i just add 15 bucks and buy a huntsman mini

in my country

[spark hatch]

huntsman mini is terrible

[vocal breach]

really?

did not know bruh

[spark hatch]

from an enthusiast stand point yes.

[vocal breach]

should've joined 2 days earlier when my brother ordered one.

[spark hatch]

im sure they'll be happy with it, from your average consumer/gamer stand point its great, but as an enthusiast ik its really not that amazing

[vocal breach]

so its good but not really that good

?

[spark hatch]

if you're a gamer you'll think its great, if you're an enthusiast you'll recongnise theres better options

so sorda ig?

none the less If you can get the money I would get the keychron c1 but if that extra 30$ is too much I'd probably go with the last rk61 you linked

[vocal breach]

ok thanks!

[spark hatch]

np glad to help

[outer citrus]

What size keyboard is good for general productivity and gaming as a whole?

I don’t really use the numpad anymore except for some games that have flying

But I only rlly use the keyboard for flying games if I can’t find my Xbox controller

[rapid oracle]

Tkl

[worldly shale]

It's all up to preference and whether or not you'd rather reach for keys or use combinations(forgot the actual term. the ctrl+shift type shit)

but if you aren't using it more much other than typing and occasionally gaming i always reccomend a 60%. portable, cheap most times, and pretty easy to get used to. tkl is also good if you need the extra buttons

[chrome raft]

idk how to respond to that

[chrome raft]

layouts are just a combination of different parts like number pad, f row, windows keys, arrow cluster etc.

just choose the parts you want

[supple gust]

I prefer a 75% over 60%

just cuz it’s a good bit more compact than a tkl but still has those buttons if I want

[worldly shale]

75% are ugly as sin to me so i can never get into them but they are a nice alternative if you prefer a compact board yeah

[supple gust]

huh, I quite like the look of them

to each their own

[unkempt dome]

well that will give you the occasion to compare it to the keyboard you'll get ... and see for yourself

also ...

got a new keycap set ... feels really nice to type on

[tall dome]

Uh, a 75% would be nice, but I personally don’t find myself using function keys and extra keys that much, so an extended 65% with mapped keys could work out well

[chrome raft]

exploded 75% is ugly AF

but compact 75% is sooooo clean

[spark hatch]

Personally love exploded 75

[spark hatch]

Those are quite nice, how's the quility?

[unkempt dome]

well I don't know ... I like them and they feel nice so I guess the quality is good

I mean they are thick double shot pbt ... texture is nice

I don't notice anything wrong with the legend

[crimson isle]

Wool keycaps when

Pressing hairy keycaps

[spark hatch]

Alr

I might try some akko keycaps then, been thing about it for abit but I wasn't sure how they're quility was

[spark hatch]

W h y

[unkempt dome]

probably depend to which other keycap you compare them to ...

[spark hatch]

I've been using keychron oem caps so probably doesn't take much to beat they're quility

[unkempt dome]

I have a double shot oem profile set that is not as thick as those ...
and I have a double shot xda set that is as thick or thicker than those ... but they don't feel as sturdy probably cause of the lower profile

isn't keychron keycap double shot abd ?

[spark hatch]

Ah alr

I have one of there pbt sets, not not too sure

[crimson isle]

Boredom, and I would like some beard hair keycaps

painted beard hairs shaped into a keycap

With the texture of the beard hairs

[spark hatch]

Fair enough~

[crimson isle]

You don’t want it?

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/q1-q2-k2-oem-dye-sub-pbt-keycap-set/products/q1-k2-oem-dye-sub-pbt-keycap-set-gray-white-blue

[spark hatch]

Nope not at all

[crimson isle]

Why not tho

[spark hatch]

I don't wanna type on hair

[crimson isle]

Found this

[spark hatch]

I'll stick with abs/pbt keycaps

[crimson isle]

Nah

I want hair keyboard

Tho I would prefer human hair

[unkempt dome]

yeah the keychron Q series keycaps are pbt ... but I think the K serie are abs

[crimson isle]

While looking for hairy keyboard, i found this

[spark hatch]

Q1 come stock with abs and then they're other keycap options are pbt

[spark hatch]

That's so cursed

[crimson isle]

Yes it is

[chrome raft]

it looks fake

[spark hatch]

prolly is but its stull cursed

[eternal lantern]

Anyone know where I can get GLORIOUS AURA KEYCAPS V2 keycaps in Canada? I prefer not to buy from gmmk in case of duty fees

[vale mist]

sure that wasnt a heat gun damn

[crimson isle]

should've put it in the microwave

[spark hatch]

that woulda fixed it

[crimson isle]

Better than a heat gun or oven

[gusty solar]

Is there anyone who has been a mechanical keyboard user and gone back to low-profile keyboards like the Logitech MX keys, Apple Magic Keyboard, etc?

Just curious because I think I might be one - I mean it is all personal preference after all but yeah :D

[spark hatch]

I would use a nuphy air or a keychron low prof, idk about apple, I used one for 5 years and I cant see my self wanting to go bad to it

[supple gust]

i’d vomit

[full hull]

New Hotswap mouse

S2 clone ofc

same shell as the Pwnage Symm 1

[crimson isle]

mouse with an option to repair*

not really any reason for hot swap otherwise for a mouse

imho

[spark hatch]

idk it could be cool

honestly I just wanna see mroe mice with adjustable debounce time, I hate how niche it is

[full hull]

You can easily try out different switches

like Japanese Omrons which aren't available in consumer mice

TTC Gold 80M, Zippy, Cherry, etc

[rapid oracle]

[simple canyon]

best absolutely super mega budget keyboard?

under £30 ($40)

[full hull]

Free Ewaste Keyboard

[trail lava]

I saw some people using some sort of tape in their keyboard

What exactly is it?

[late pulsar]

Masking tape

[simple canyon]

is the razer cynosa lite any good

[full hull]

I'd say just get a school keyboard

will be the same quality

[trail lava]

Do I need just one layer of it? Or should I make it double?

[ionic briar]

depends on the result

[simple canyon]

well thats... terrible to know

[ionic briar]

if its not loud enough for you ,add another

[trail lava]

Wait, it gets louder if I give it some tape??

I thought it dampens the sound

[full hull]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trust-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard-Layout/dp/B093QD65FP/ref=sr_1_6
@simple canyon you can get this Outemu Red keyboard probably

[simple canyon]

what about something https://www.amazon.co.uk/TeckNet-Mechanical-Keyboard-Anti-ghosting-Aluminum/dp/B010IIKHBK/ref=sr_1_7_sspa?crid=PZHPK0YU293P&keywords=gaming+keyboard&qid=1647778164&s=computers&sprefix=gaming+%2Ccomputers%2C761&sr=1-7-spons&psc=1&smid=A3NULHOW1R9CIG&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzTDczRFNOWTZOQ0NIJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjMzMTU0MTE1VFA0VlIxVEsyMiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTkzMDY5M0U0NTdHNzRHN0FSVyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

like that

[full hull]

if you want TKL that's fine

in your budget literally nothing is good

[simple canyon]

i could extend it to 50 quid

if the situation is dire

[full hull]

nah that's ok

it will input text

[simple canyon]

well i mean

yes

as long as it lasts like a couple months and types

i am a ok

[full hull]

Just like save the excess money and save for like some Varmillo or Vortex or Leopold @simple canyon

[simple canyon]

lol why are the leopold keyboards like 150 pounds

i see the build quality is good

they look quite normal

no ultra fps boosting rgb that costs 12 livers

[full hull]

the only LED a keyboard needs is a Caps Lock indicator

maybe Num Lock if it has numpad

[ionic briar]

comes with thick quality 2shot pbt as well

and yea, general speaking the build quality is better even tho it doesnt have the steel plate bs

[simple canyon]

looks like a normal office keyboard so not bad but yeah currently way outta my budget

the drugod one looks quite nice

[full hull]

Scratch the Durgod they're dogshit from dogshit company

[simple canyon]

oh

yeah the reviews are quite bad

[full hull]

tbh I think the negative reviews are more of a review of the company that makes them

[simple canyon]

the varmillo keyboards look quite good especially with charcoal grey

what is this for?

adding custom keycaps?

[full hull]

no you add your own switches and keycaps

[simple canyon]

oh cool

[ionic briar]

swapping out switches and the ease to tune the stabilizers and/or making modification that affects how the board sounds

[gritty fern]

Hello! I am looking for a keyboard that isnt one of those super clicky and loud keyboards, they just annoy me to death. I only got those normal brands like SteelSeries and such to chose from and no Amazon or alike, what would be recommended to buy?

As of now I am using SteelSeries Apex 350 and really love this keyboard, but I can not find it anywhere, so would love similar style if possible.

Yes, im kind of picky. But I am planning on having it for an other 10ish years 🙂

[full hull]

Hexgears X-1 with Kailh choc reds @gritty fern

Apex 350 is a low profile right?

[gritty fern]

Its kinda like Apex 7

[full hull]

Apex 350 is low profile though right?

So Hexgears X-1 Kailh Choc Red

[gritty fern]

https://www.inet.se/produkt/6607708/steelseries-apex-350

Thats how it looks like haha

[full hull]

Yeah it's a low profile

[gritty fern]

Almost 50 dollars in shipping from their website, can not find it in local stores 😦

Got any other tips? 🙂

Live in a very boring country where we basiclly only have the mainstream brands such as SteelSeries, HyperX, Razer and so on

Worth to mention aswell, Im not in the US, im in Scandinavia. Haha

[full hull]

Whoever has low profile cherry switches then @gritty fern

Logitech G Pro as well I think uses some version of Kailh Chocs

[gritty fern]

So cherry and Kailh Chocs are silent?

[full hull]

The red ones yes

They're low profile

You might not like regular switches

[gritty fern]

Whats regular switches? haha

[rapid oracle]

Try look for keychron low profile series

K3, k5, k7

[gritty fern]

Found none of the ones you mentioned haha. But I found, k2, k4, k6, k8.

[rapid oracle]

Those are normal profile

[gritty fern]

Aww D:

Hmm, found Apex pro and Apex 7 for a good price, know anything if they are annoyingly clicky? haha

[sleek bronze]

low profile kailh choc with real choc spacing

This is real low profile

Look how the keycaps are low and small and close to each others

You can't have that with classic MX switches

btw i'm (almost) jk

[gritty fern]

Thats not what I really want. Normal sized keyboard. Thats not clicking so my neighbors wakes up when I type is what I want XD

[sleek bronze]

(like what I said is true but not for everyone)

[gritty fern]

Ohh I got the joke 😛 But just saying. Haha 😛

[full hull]

Just get any of the Keychrons you found them or get a Varmilo or Leopold

Only really the Apex Pro is like an ok keyboard

Make sure to get MX Red switches or Gateron Reds to avoid the clickies

Or Vortex

[gritty fern]

I will go and look on them in store, since I am not familiar with the keyboards at all. Got the store kinda close 🙂

[full hull]

If you have to go major brand then Steelseries Apex Pro is like the only passable keyboard

But Keychron, Varmillo, Vortex would be better

[gritty fern]

So out of less knowledge, whys that?

[full hull]

It's the only one that isn't Uber cheaply made

Just relatively cheaply made

At least the switches on it are good

[gritty fern]

Makes sense.
Any other "big brand" youll think will be viable? Like K70, Alloy, or something like it?

Might aswell know my list before I go to the store 😛

[full hull]

HyperX and Corsair dogshit

If you have to buy a major brand's keyboard only the Apex Pro is remotely worth the money

Since you liked the Apex 350 also try for Logitech G Pro Wireless keyboard @gritty fern

The one that says low profile

[gritty fern]

Just opened up G815, looked nice atleast haha

G pro not full size 😦

[unkempt dome]

That one is nice specially for that price

@gritty fern i would go for Leopold with cherry silent red (not the same as cherry red)

[gritty fern]

Cant buy here 🙈

Such a shit country for "off brand" stuff.

Will look on the ones Ive been tipsed along Corsair k100 and SteelSeries Apex pro. Seems like the best bets to me when I look at reviews.

And they all red switches. So pretty quite.
And I might look into some browns aswell to hear and feel the diffrence irl.

[quartz island]

Any good black 65% cases?

[gritty fern]

With keyboardlist made.

What mice would you all recommend? Got rival 600 atm and I just LOVE it.
But sadly it is starting to double click and just dont work as good anymore after soon 4 years.

Been looking at 710, since almost the exact same mouse, but less of that rubberstuff that just collects dirt. (I tend to have sweaty hands)

Anyone know if 710 is any good? Or any other similar mices thats solid?

[unkempt dome]

would avoid corsair ... shitty

brown won't sound much different than red ... feel is barely different too

[silent oyster]

Is Ducky readily available where you are? They're pretty big

[spice juniper]

Would be really interesting to try out different switches

If only i could afford it

[gritty fern]

Yeah I found some Ducky to be fair. But I find them pretty damn ugly, but I did put them on my list to atleast look at :)

[silent oyster]

You might have a store near you, you never know. Turns out there's one by me so I went in and tried a LOT of keyboards/switches, learned a ton

[gritty fern]

Go to a store and try diffrent switches there 👀

[spice juniper]

I really don't know where the nearest electronics store even is

Not like we'd have the time anyways

[cobalt bramble]

Who else here like trackpoint on keyboard?

It's really speed up my homework

[gritty fern]

Rarely used that stuff haha

[urban glade]

use rollermouse