peripherals

[rapid oracle]

Then don't

Epbt exist

[subtle zealot]

But its just bcz im broke

[rapid oracle]

L

[spark hatch]

I'd go for drop first, ali keycaps have very low quality in my experience

[rapid oracle]

gmk hennessey is good

[spark hatch]

I'd love a gmk keycap set, but tbh Im not a huge fan of cherry profile

kinda stuck on oem

[rapid oracle]

I only like cherry

Other profile looks and feel inferior to cherry

[spark hatch]

yea thats fair I just have always typed on oem and cherry just feels differnt

I could prolly get used to it but for now im fine with oem

[unkempt dome]

I really don't like cherry profile

[spark hatch]

what do you type on?

[unkempt dome]

Usually xda or dsa

[spark hatch]

ahh

[unkempt dome]

But now it's cherry cause of the durgod fusion

With cherry brown ... soldered

[spark hatch]

yikes

[unkempt dome]

2 thing I don't like ... but damn the rest of the keyboard is good

[spark hatch]

what board is it?

[unkempt dome]

Durgod fusion

[spark hatch]

oh I missed that

oh yea I heard of that board

[spark hatch]

I mean if you have a soldering iron its pretty easy to swap them, assuming you have the time and ambition

[unkempt dome]

I don't have the time

[spark hatch]

ah, fair enough

[unkempt dome]

Also I'll get most likely the akko 3068b multimode ...

[spark hatch]

ah

thats a pretty nice looking board

[unkempt dome]

Indeed

[gloomy relic]

is there a mid-end gaming keyboard? preferably the one thats not too expensive

[spark hatch]

what layout

[gloomy relic]

Qwerty

[spark hatch]

no like full size, tkl, 65%, ect

I'd assume tkl or smaller?

[gloomy relic]

full size

[spark hatch]

the keychron c2 is pretty good

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard

[gloomy relic]

ooo

alr

thanks

[spark hatch]

np, glad to help

[ionic briar]

i would also recommend the leopold fc750r

wait thats the wrong model

the 900r

[gloomy relic]

aight

[cobalt skiff]

hi is someone knows any good TKL white keyboard cases (70$)

[ionic briar]

womier k87?

well its not white per se

frosted stacked acrylic

[cobalt skiff]

I need hats the case

Only*

[ionic briar]

oh just the case

[cobalt skiff]

Yea

[ionic briar]

doesnt come with switches or keycaps right?

[cobalt skiff]

Nope

[ionic briar]

https://flashquark.com/product/falcon-elite-hotswap-tkl-with-usb-c-bluetooth-and-rgb-mechanical-keyboard-kit/

https://flashquark.com/product/blackhawk-hotswappable-tenkeyless-with-usb-c-bluetooth-and-rgb-mechanical-keyboard-kit/

[cobalt skiff]

I can get it only in us?

[ionic briar]

im assuming you are from the us

where are you from?

[cobalt skiff]

Israel

So the only option I have it’s Amazon

But I going to be in France for 2 weeks

[ionic briar]

so like buying from amazon.com and let it ship to isarel?

[cobalt skiff]

Yap

[ionic briar]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33028638867.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.5.562f57beaA8hrl
how about this one?
disregard aliexpress's shipping estimate, they actually ships faster than what the estimate said

[cobalt skiff]

Ty very much

[ionic briar]

remember to choose kit 2 before ordering btw

thats the one variant with the white case

[rapid oracle]

Tbh getting a prebuilt will be better, custom at that price is not worth it

[cobalt skiff]

Ok

[outer citrus]

Anyone ever notice how really the only good cherry switches are their linear switches

And even then they fail at that

[unkempt dome]

I don't like linear

So no I don't think they're better than their tactile

[opaque shard]

Cherry MX is generally bad at making keyswitches

[olive spindle]

thoughts on corsair k63?

[rapid oracle]

Garbage

[rapid oracle]

Black and browns are good

[opaque shard]

Meh

[rapid oracle]

Have you tried broken in cherry hyperglide blacks?

[opaque shard]

Nah, I don't do MX style switches anymore

[full hull]

Romer-G

[rapid oracle]

What switches then

[opaque shard]

Atm I'm doing Kailh Choc.

I've grown fond of low profile

[rapid oracle]

I thought it's topre or alps, had me excited

[opaque shard]

Nah, I'm designing my own keyboard

[opaque shard]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/758760549663637604/951108990140547102/20220309_142719.jpg?width=1868&height=862

I just finished the basic assembly of my custom designed keyboard 😄

[supple gust]

HAHAHA WHAT? BROWNS?

[rapid oracle]

Yes

Cherry hyperglide browns especially

[supple gust]

🤢

[supple gust]

to be fair I’ve not tried hyperglides, but the regular browns are nasty

[rapid oracle]

You've been watching glares didn’t you

[supple gust]

as a tactile enjoyer® I like decent tactiles

[supple gust]

who is glares

[rapid oracle]

Sure bro

[supple gust]

I have a set of browns, i hate them

[rapid oracle]

On what keyboard?

[supple gust]

amongus board

[rapid oracle]

Okay

[supple gust]

built my own

keyboard that is

I have a lathe, mill, and all I needed was the PCB and some silicone gaskets and a silicone pad

[eternal wraith]

hg browns and blacks based

[rapid oracle]

🤝 my man

[supple gust]

I should take some pictures, but I’m at college and the board is at home

I put too much work into that mf to bring it to my dorm room lmao

[eternal wraith]

genuinely considering getting springswapped hg blacks in my next build

they're great but a tad too heavy :(

[worldly shale]

browns are nice

not for everyone, but they have nice light tactility

[full hull]

https://tenor.com/view/the-muppets-kermit-the-frog-smh-shake-my-head-no-gif-4883582

[eternal wraith]

i don't like stock browns much but with a prog/slow spring and mx blue bottom theyre lovely imo

[supple gust]

I like the big bois

tactile chonkers if you will

[rapid oracle]

Lol like you know anything about keyboard

hyperglide browns are good, can be better after broken in

[supple gust]

doesn’t even know anything about air coolers zamn

[eternal wraith]

ultraglides :)

[worldly shale]

highly tactile switches are vile to me i can recognize that they're good but even akko cs blues are too strong for me

[supple gust]

like I said I’ve never tried hyperglides. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if they’re better

[rapid oracle]

Hell yeah

I love ultraglide blacks

[eternal wraith]

ive never tried them but i reckon theyre nice

[full hull]

lmao stay mad Noctua shill

[rapid oracle]

They are smooth af

[supple gust]

amongus

[eternal wraith]

i should make a build with em at some point

aaa

worth it?

[supple gust]

if you like em it’s worth it

[eternal wraith]

yeah but i don't have either browns or blues on me atm

[rapid oracle]

Get hyperglide browns

[eternal wraith]

are hg blues a thing?

[rapid oracle]

Not that I know of

[eternal wraith]

also, hg browns dont have a difference in tactility compared to like retools or whatever

so ill still have to get blues regardless

[rapid oracle]

Get topre

[gentle valley]

Question, I have the Logitech MX keys and needed to deep clean it after spilling coffee on it… I successfully reassembled everything but the space bar. I’m blind, so I can’t figure out how to get the space bar keycap to snap back in,. I can’t get it to set in place correctly as it will just stay in the pressed down state instead of staying up. Would anyone have some tips or help articles I can try? Thanks for the help.

[crimson isle]

upside down maybe

[chrome raft]

Peerless assassin 120

[chrome raft]

next time dont buy a logitech keeb

[spark hatch]

good advise

[outer citrus]

Is the keychron c2 actually a good keyboard?

[spark hatch]

yes

[outer citrus]

Also kinda stupid question

[spark hatch]

I like myn at least

[outer citrus]

Are gateron browns any better than cherry browns

[spark hatch]

the space bar is less to be desired acoustically but I think if you put in the time you could fix that

[outer citrus]

I know there’s a couple mods for improving acoustics

[spark hatch]

I think they might be alittle better? but that might just be cause of there prelude

[spark hatch]

acouple

[outer citrus]

A couple that I know of

[spark hatch]

fair enough

[outer citrus]

When they are sold out of rgb hotswappable boards

I kinda wanna change my setup from black to more white so I guess the white backlight isn’t that big of a deal

[spark hatch]

keychron restocks pretty quesck in my experience

I would give them a week, I'll be back in stock

[spark hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834558873398411335/946875503908896818/20220225_135015.mp4

of you were wondering

[outer citrus]

When u already requested the keyboard and the specs

I put it on my birthday list since my birthday is coming up

And birthdays are always my chance to get some new pc stuff

[spark hatch]

ah

[outer citrus]

To me it sounds a bit echoey

[spark hatch]

I think thats mostly my mink

mic*

[outer citrus]

It sounds a bit like my corsair k70 keyboard

But way less pingy

Corsair k70s are very pingy

And there isn’t much I can do to improve the sound cause corsair keyboards are god damn difficult to open

[spark hatch]

thats just my phone bent laying on the table so it might reverb abit, I dont think its too echoy in peroson. and you could get rid of it with some case foam if it was

[spark hatch]

sadly c2 is a bit of a gem too, its not terrible but they went with a screwless option so its alittle more difficult to open

they have a guide on there website tho

[outer citrus]

Also cause the k70 has a metal top plate

Meaning pingy keys

[spark hatch]

ah

[outer citrus]

Most noticeable on the space bar

[vale mist]

just because it has a metal plate doesn't mean ping
the reason it's pingy is no lube in the switches or stabilisers\

[outer citrus]

True

[vale mist]

and no dampening at all

in the case

[spark hatch]

yea

[outer citrus]

Even then k70s are hard to open and arent hotswappable

[vale mist]

well that's an issue with every normal non hotswap board

[outer citrus]

Meaning lubing the switches and stabilizers is a much harder task

[outer citrus]

True true

The k70 is a nice keyboard it’s just overpriced for what you get in my opinion

Cherry silvers arent that great of switches

[spark hatch]

never used

I've stayed away from cherry when ever possible

[outer citrus]

Yeah

Cherry silvers arent absolutely terrible

But they just aren’t great

Cherry quality lacks when you compare it to other brands

[spark hatch]

yea

I've had bad experince with them

[outer citrus]

Considering cherry is suppost to be the most trusted and best quality brand

They lack significantly

In variety, quality, and a lot of other factors

[spark hatch]

yea

[outer citrus]

Well

Cherry does use more “premium” materials for their switches

But more expensive materials doesn’t mean much if your product lacks behind your competitors

[spark hatch]

that is true

but they really dont feel/sound high quility

[outer citrus]

Yeah

Possibly if you lubed and did some mods to the switches themselves they might sound a bit better

But at that point you should just get some switches that actually are decent

[spark hatch]

lube makes everything better

[outer citrus]

Cherry blues tho

[spark hatch]

ok well you dont lube clickys

[outer citrus]

Yeah

Cherry blues arent really gaming switches

They are more meant for typing

But they don’t sound good

[spark hatch]

no switch is a gaming swiotch, it doesnt really matter what switch you use unless you play like osu

[outer citrus]

True

If ur playing osu then clicky switches seem to be what everyone uses

[spark hatch]

i wouldnt know, i've never looked into osu things

[outer citrus]

However switch type solely boils down to personal preference

I haven’t tried every switch type yet. Just linear

I don’t rlly know which one I like best

[spark hatch]

yea

i like strong tactiles or clickys

[outer citrus]

I might have to try out some switches next time I go to microcenter

[spark hatch]

yea

[outer citrus]

Also

The key cap puller corsair keyboards come with

[spark hatch]

they actaully come with a keycap puller

[outer citrus]

Yea

It’s a cheap plastic key cap puller

And it sometimes scratches the keys when you use it

[spark hatch]

yikes

[outer citrus]

It breaks easily t

[spark hatch]

and it easily goes back together?

how does that work

[outer citrus]

Huh

[spark hatch]

oh wait I see waht you mean, it broke easily

nvm im stupid lmao

[outer citrus]

O

Back on the topic of switches

I cant have a loud keyboard tho

Cause my family would probably kill me

I might go for some tactile switches

[spark hatch]

lmao I jsut dont use my clicky builds in front of them

[outer citrus]

Lmao

My keyboard uses linear switches and it’s already pretty loud

[spark hatch]

I dont find tactiles much louder than linears, I'd say they're pretty similar

[outer citrus]

Oh no

I found my old keyboard

[spark hatch]

lmao, that think looks "amazing"

[outer citrus]

Lol

[spark hatch]

its xtreme

[outer citrus]

It has these weird “tactile” keys

[spark hatch]

wait OMFG that enter

[outer citrus]

They feel kinda tactile but they have a mushy bottom out

[spark hatch]

its huge

[spark hatch]

sounds like a membrane

[outer citrus]

It is

[spark hatch]

yea

[outer citrus]

But it’s an odd membrane

Also the space bar is very noisy

[spark hatch]

I bet

[outer citrus]

The keys do not feel good in the slightest

[spark hatch]

bro that spave bar

[outer citrus]

Nor do they sound good

Zero stabilization at all

It’s honestly worse than a bugha keyboard

[spark hatch]

yikes

[outer citrus]

Then again this keyboard was very cheap

Like 20 dollars I think

[spark hatch]

ah

[outer citrus]

Even at that price point there’s better keyboards

[spark hatch]

I mean still pretty bad, I have 2 20$ amazon keyboards that sound pretty good

[outer citrus]

Also the keys have a weirdly grippy texture

[spark hatch]

granted highly modded

[outer citrus]

It makes the keys feel kinds gritty

Which I do not like

[spark hatch]

ah

they might actually be pbt keycaps

[outer citrus]

I do like the feeling of the media buttons tho

[spark hatch]

I bet they're mushy too

[outer citrus]

Here’s a look at the keycap

[spark hatch]

damnnn those are thin

[outer citrus]

They have a subtle tactile bump with a surprisingly not that mushy bottom out

Yeah

[spark hatch]

oh well thats nice at least

[outer citrus]

When I compare it to my normal keyboard tho the media buttons feel like a cheap keyboard

My keyboard may be using cherry switches but even cherry switches are a huge upgrade compared to this

Also the keys take an odd amount of force to push down

I do not know how I survived with this keyboard

I can tell it’s trying to imitate some kind of mechanical switch

Which it does poorly

It feels like a brown switch but mushy and requiring 80g of force

[spark hatch]

Ofc they would be shitty or not it's mechanical

[outer citrus]

Yeah

[spark hatch]

Some membranes can take a fair bit

[outer citrus]

Membrane keyboards really just can’t compete with mechanical

Arguably mechanical keyboards are just better in every way

More variety for different feels and sounds

[spark hatch]

The one thing memyhas on mechanical is the price

[outer citrus]

Yeah

[spark hatch]

Membrane is pennies to mske

Make

[outer citrus]

Membrane keyboards are cheap

[spark hatch]

Yea

[outer citrus]

And I gotta have a bit of respect for them

[spark hatch]

I mean you can get nice ones like uhm

Shoot I forget what they're called

[outer citrus]

I’ve seen some genuinely decent membrane keyboards

[spark hatch]

they're called like electro smthn keyboards and theyre eventually a high quality membrane

[spark hatch]

yea

[outer citrus]

They target a different market than mechanicals

[spark hatch]

yea

electro capasitive, thats what its caleld

[outer citrus]

Ah

[spark hatch]

https://youtu.be/-1vwM_PBqck?t=610

[outer citrus]

Seems cool

[spark hatch]

oh dman they quiet

[ionic briar]

niz topre
pretty cool

[spark hatch]

it looked pretty cool actually

I dont really like how quiet it is bit I bet its pretty nice to type oon

[boreal rivet]

topre is a better tactile experience than any mx tactile will ever be

[spark hatch]

never really heard anything about them, what are tehy like?

[boreal rivet]

a better tactile experience than any mx tactile will ever be

hard to describe in any other way because of how greatly different weights vary

[spark hatch]

how do they even function?

is it a membrain style think like electro? or?

ive looked at pictures of them thats all ik about topre

[boreal rivet]

but generally a long rounded bump throughout the travel with a soft but firm bottom out

[spark hatch]

ah, I can see how that would be nice but not my style

I like alittle pre travel tactile event and then alittle after travel

[boreal rivet]

under each dome there is a conical spring that increases in capacitance as you depress the dome, once the capacitance goes over the threshold for actuation the controller picks it up and sends a keystroke signal

very basic explanation though, its much more complicated than that

[boreal rivet]

just like with audio you don't know until you try it

[spark hatch]

ah, yea I can see why that would be nice

I'll probably just stick with mx style switches but maybe one day ill try it

[boreal rivet]

hallmark of mx cope

[subtle grotto]

im improving on the workman layout, 2 days ago i had like 15-18 wpm now i havve an avg of 25-30 wpm

but im not touch typing yet

[rocky silo]

does anyone here have a Royal Kludge G68? if there's anyone who has it, how do i know if it's charging and when the battery is full?

[worldly shale]

congrats!

that's a big jump

[supple gust]

dunno, i like my box royals better

the Topres are amazing, and I’m building a board on them, I just like my royals better

[charred sonnet]

can anyone reccomend any decent keyboards that arent too expensive cause i spent all my money n a logitech keyboard that barely works

[spark hatch]

what size?

also cant you return the logitch board if it was recently bought

[charred sonnet]

i dont have the box

[spark hatch]

ah

[charred sonnet]

i dont mind the size

[spark hatch]

no i mean like tkl, full size, 65%, ect

[charred sonnet]

tkl and full size are both good for me

[spark hatch]

i'd look at the keychron c1 or 2

or therees leopold they're also good, but idk how much they are

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c1-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32321247051865

[charred sonnet]

yeah i got like no money so ill probably have to settle for one of the cheap ones that are made by children in factories

[spark hatch]

thats still too much?

[simple canyon]

why are the keys different colours

[spark hatch]

the base model is 40$ and its just as good as the top on other than not having hotswap

[spark hatch]

they're called accent keys, jsut susposed to look nice

you can change them to match the rest of the board

[simple canyon]

ok

wait so you can just take them off and stuff to replace them

[spark hatch]

it comes with another escape key yea

and you can take the keycaps off on any keyboard except for some membranes

[simple canyon]

i see

[chrome raft]

Are there any 3rd paty ipad keybaords with mech swithces!?!!??!

[spark hatch]

I highly doubt it

just get like a wireless keyboard and mouse

thats all I got

[chrome raft]

Thankyou

[spark hatch]

np

[quartz island]

Is the xtrfy k4 tkl any good?

[unkempt dome]

Does it still come only with cherry ?

And no hotswap ?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hQAHnAr3C5w

[quartz island]

Thanks

[unkempt dome]

I know that dmitri liked it a lot even after the review when reviewing other board he still uses that one

In between

But cherry is a no go for me

[quartz island]

What’s the problem with it?

[spark hatch]

cherry switches and no hotswap, I think is the main things?

[unkempt dome]

Exactly ... Gtg back to work now

[quartz island]

ok,

Any other keyboards?

In that price range

[spark hatch]

how much is it again?

[quartz island]

Like $100

[spark hatch]

have you looked at the keychron c1?

its a pretty decent little board

[quartz island]

Not yet

[spark hatch]

also might be cheaper but idk with there shipping rates

[quartz island]

Yeah I can’t get it

I’m in the UK

No stores near me selling it

[spark hatch]

ahh

[sharp raft]

anyone know if o-rings can make my mech keeb any quieter?

[crimson isle]

logically speaking, yes
because plastic onto plastic vs plastic onto plastic with a bumper in between

[spark hatch]

they make them quiter but in my opintion they ruin the feel of switches

[unkempt dome]

Just the downstroke will be dampened a bit

Depending of the thickness of the oring and the density

Really dense oring barely change the feeling of the switch

[worldly shale]

like droybox said the downstroke will be dampened but it isn't recommended

check out quiet switches for better feel and better silencing

[sharp raft]

i have 2 mech keyboards and intend to use o-rings for one for late night use cause apparently my setup is next to my parents room

so im just trying to make one quieter its alright if it changes the feel of the switch

[spark hatch]

look into silent switches, I dont think they're too expensive and they dont feel terrible I dont think. I've heard some people sind them alittle mushy, but your gonna have that regardless on a silent build

[rapid oracle]

Just choose the right silent switches for you

Some silent switches have softer rubber feet that would make it feels mushy

[spark hatch]

yea

[rapid oracle]

But even that won’t feel as mushy as o ring

[chrome raft]

tru

[vale mist]

once you wear orings in they arent very mushy

[spark hatch]

ill take your word for it, only tried o rings once jsut to try em and I didnt like them at all

[chrome raft]

i remember they felt like silent switches with literal foam inside of the switch

it was that mushy

[spark hatch]

Ah

Yea I didn't like them, bottom out was terrible and then it was still a fairly loud upstroke so it was kinda pointless

[elder owl]

cold take, XDA > Cherry

[spark hatch]

Ehh, OEM is my favorite

[rapid oracle]

[thin roost]

Sottering razer switches rn

[unkempt dome]

My kailh silent box brown feels mushier than the cherry brown with the oring I have ... it depend of the density of the oring

[rapid oracle]

I would rather just get a silent switches, o ring just not worth the risk

[crimson isle]

what is there to risk with an O ring

you don't have to open anything

it is pretty much free as well

[ionic briar]

well silent switches has those integrated into the stem tho?

[crimson isle]

never seen them come with anything like it

unless there is somewhere just a switch with rubber glued on it

[ionic briar]

yea basically
either rubber injected into the contact point between the stem and the housing like what cherry silent does
https://external-preview.redd.it/iU-iIJ_XT-bn2eswGi1Q5WRyiSPb5ZOrZ-ROvWodxDY.jpg?auto=webp&s=e200d232d9ae985c981f98b60c6addb96a063544

[rapid oracle]

Yeah those are better than o rings

[crimson isle]

not actually the same thing tho

they don't even do the same thing

[ionic briar]

oh about that

i think the latest box silent clicky does that?

i might be wrong

nvm

thats on the top housing

and its there to stop the click bar from making noises

[crimson isle]

inside the switch vs O rings which are a bumper between the key caps and the switch
one does not replace the other logically speaking

[ionic briar]

ah i see

[thin roost]

Guys, I killed my keyboard

gg

press f to pay respects

[crimson isle]

can't, your keyboard is broken

can't press f

[thin roost]

Yrp

Yep

[unkempt dome]

Well yes it does the same thing ... well at least oring try to do the same thing

The end result should be the same if you get good oring ... at least for the downstroke

[eager kiln]

Guys, my GF want me to mod her keyboard to wired. It only has receiver, bluetooth and use battery

How can i turn it into wired

[rapid oracle]

You probably need an extra pcb for that

[eager kiln]

well, that's won't be a big problem, i hope. it's gk68

[full hull]

Wait I have a GK68 can't you use those wired?

With like a Type C cable

@eager kiln like when you plug in Type C cable it doesn't work?

[eager kiln]

no, it doesn't have port at all

[full hull]

hmmm that's weird

So how do you charge it?

Batteries?

Like AAA

[eager kiln]

yes

[eager kiln]

it's fine when she use it for texting, but now she started to play games

so now she want me to plug a cable into it

[spark hatch]

How did you do that

[chrome raft]

did you physically break your pcb?

[spark hatch]

Yea

I've desoldered and soldered alot of boards and I don't think it's that easy to kill them

[opaque stump]

Hey folks im new to this keyboard business how do i know if the switches i buy can be put into a hot swappable keyboard, i know my keyboard is hot swappable, but do i have to look for a certain "mount"?
I have two options, PCB and Plate

[spark hatch]

Pcb has extra stems for stability while plate jsut has the 2 contact pins and the middle bump

[opaque stump]

Thing is

i have this keyboard:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08DKTK3PZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and i wanna get cherry mx clears

[spark hatch]

Hmm

Why clears?

[opaque stump]

are they compatible

[spark hatch]

Yes

[opaque stump]

ok thanks

wait what do i buy PCB or Plate

[spark hatch]

I'd assume plate mount

[opaque stump]

ah

[opaque stump]

the switches that come with this keyboard are SO fucking sensitive that i even prefer my laptop keyboard over this. problem is all i do is lay my fingers on the keyboard, not even press, and the keys slowly go down and activate

its like the switches are made of air

i just recently found out about Linear and tactile

[spark hatch]

Ah

Well I would recommend smthn like durok t1 I think they're called or kenetic labs penguins

[opaque stump]

then i was recommended cherry mx browns, but i KNOW i saw a video where a keyboard enthusiast called them TRASH, and more Linear than tactile

[spark hatch]

Yes

Brown bad

[unkempt dome]

Akko lavender purple

[spark hatch]

But it is preferance

[opaque stump]

i want a fucking CLICK and HARD STIFF PRESS on my keyboard keys

what do i look for

[unkempt dome]

Kailh box navy

Zeal clickiez

[opaque stump]

compatible with this ofc

again, so i should order Plate mounts

[spark hatch]

^

[opaque stump]

how are cherry mx clears

[spark hatch]

Those are very strong tactiles

[spark hatch]

If you want clears I'd get kenetic labs penguins

They're similar tactility but much smoother and such

Some people have a problem with spring ping but I personally haven't had an issue with that

[opaque stump]

oh shit

[opaque stump]

these sound great

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wholesales-pcs-lot-Switches-Water-proof-Compatible/dp/B07C4Y6WDM

someone confirm is it these?

[spark hatch]

Uhm it looks like it?

[unkempt dome]

Yes it is

[spark hatch]

Wait they're water proof?

[unkempt dome]

Yes

Kinda

[opaque stump]

ip56

[unkempt dome]

Not submersibles

[spark hatch]

Ah

[opaque stump]

ill submerse them in my aquarium dormitory

[unkempt dome]

Like don't go in the shower with your keyboard

While it's plugged in

[spark hatch]

Well yea

[opaque stump]

heres a better term

[spark hatch]

PCB isn't Satter proof

[opaque stump]

humidity resistant

[spark hatch]

Ah

[opaque stump]

waterproof is a buzzword

[spark hatch]

I don't really know the ip ratings

[unkempt dome]

Gtg back to work ...🤮

[spark hatch]

Work 🙄

[unkempt dome]

Yeah it suck

Hate it

[spark hatch]

I need to get a new job, but idk what to get into

[opaque stump]

woah holy shit

scalding review

[spark hatch]

That's jsut a one off unless the seller isn't sending the right seitches

Navy's are definitely tactile

[unkempt dome]

If that review is about box navy then that guy is a moron ... those are one of the clicky with the most tactility ... that and box jade since they have the same click bar

[light coyote]

I use 3 computers and have 1 set of keyboard and mouse to jump between them, looking for a little set of macro keys I can switch between each desktop, does anyway have any suggestions?

[thin roost]

Razer switches are sottered

Basically switch replacement gone weong

Wrong*

[unkempt dome]

use a kvm switch for 3 computer and that's it

[spark hatch]

ik

also its soldered* not sottered

I've soldered 5 boards and never had one die

[ember abyss]

So I have a Razer Blackwidow V2 and periodically the backlights on the numpad will flash white then revert back to whatever color is set at the moment. Everything I found online suggests it is a problem that arises from stacking different lighting effects (wave, spectrum, etc) except I don't have any effects stacked. My keyboard is set to the static lighting effect and nothing else.

I have wiped the drivers and reinstalled and that didn't help

It also happens regardless of whether or not Synapse is running and it will also happen even with OpenRGB.

[spark hatch]

hmm im not sure, it could be a hardware issue

[silent oyster]

Sounds like Synapse is installed or smn

[royal jacinth]

Synapse...

that brings me nightmares

for me, it’s untrusted

[ember abyss]

Happens with or without Synapse installed. I agree with Ryzen that it's probably a hardware problem (the keyboard is almost 6 years old now) but considering that I found some stuff online with people having the same-ish issues because of some software thought I'd throw this in here and pray someone else might have had a similar issue.

[silent oyster]

Hmm yeah if possible try it with a different device that never had Synapse installed and don’t use it, that’d be an easy way to tell. Or just plug it into wall power XD

[silent oyster]

Synapse is SO BAD lmao

Well, 3.0 or whatever is…2.0(?) was fine but not amazing

From a UI perspective anyways but the software technically was yeah still bad

Imho Razer peaked in 2015 lmao

[ember abyss]

When did Razer take away onboard storage for lighting profiles??

[silent oyster]

Wait a minute you can probably use Synapse 2.0 now that I think about it :D

[ember abyss]

All my devices used to keep whatever lighting I had set but now if I close synapse or turn off my pc they all revert back to spectrum cycling.

I hate it. I used to just dl synapse to kill the spectrum cycling than uninstall it. Can't anymore.

OpenRGB is great and all, but having to pair it with another tool for macros sort of sucks

[ember abyss]

I agree. synapse 2.0 was great

[last shell]

anyone know a good gaming keyboard?

something that is pretty good for gaming

[rapid oracle]

Anything is good for gaming

[last shell]

can you be more precise

[rapid oracle]

What is your budget? What size are you looking for?

[last shell]

60%

i dont mind the budget

[rapid oracle]

You sure about that?

[last shell]

tell me first

then i will be sure lmao

[rapid oracle]

Singa unikorn

They cost a few grands on aftermarket

[last shell]

any keyboard under 120$?

[rapid oracle]

Durgod venus

Or you can wait for keychron q4

But that's a bit over the budget

[tropic plaza]

Are you using Quick Effects or Advanced Effects @ember abyss??

[thin roost]

what switches are better for gaming?

gateron yellows or kaihl box red?

[ionic briar]

depends on your preference
the box red would be the lighter switch out of the 2 in terms of key feel

whether or not thats preferable to you is an question that i cant answer

[thin roost]

ive used a keyboard with razer green switches before, which require 50 grams to push, dont really mind that

[ionic briar]

then the gateron yellow would weight the same ish as the razer green

with the box red being lighter than that

[thin roost]

i know that

th red is only 5 grams lighter

[ionic briar]

theres no def answer of which is better for gaming. thats all i can say

[thin roost]

whats the main difference though, besides the weight?

like i know that red and yellow are linear

[ionic briar]

thats it

[unkempt dome]

there's not such thing as better switches for gaming ... get what you think you'll like better

[thin roost]

well

I ordered a red square keyboard

[ionic briar]

thats box red

a fine choice

i hope you will have a good feel with the switch

[thin roost]

No, it isnt

Its gateron yellow

To be specific

I got the

Red square keyrox TKL classic with RGB backlight

[thin roost]

Thanks!

If I don't like it, I have a 2 week return policy

[coral ferry]

has anybody made ibm m replicas?

and not charged 100 dollars

[ionic briar]

no?
cause the molds are owned by unicomp

[coral ferry]

anybody make a buckle spring keyboard for less than 50?

damn, some company called unicomp sells one for 84 dollars

[ionic briar]

yea
thats the one that holds the original moldings of the model m from lexmark

[pseudo bolt]

Nope, you'd have to be second hand to possibly get a buckling spring keyboard for that price. As @ionic briar said, Unicomp owns the old IBM/Lexmark IP and tooling, and no one else will clone it because buckling spring keyboards are expensive designs to manufacture (especially in low volume). Unlike Cherry (or Alps) style keyboards were everything in the design essentially modular, buckling spring keyboard components are more tightly integrated (you can't just pull one switch out and handwire it on its own, for example), so the complexity drives up cost.

Other companies have make buckling spring designs, but they're not the same.

[ionic briar]

not to mention for cherry mx design, their clicky pattern expired, which opens the door for other manu to make their own mx footprint switch

[pseudo bolt]

The only good one is Alps' buckling spring, IMO. The cheap Cantech ones are not great and nothing like M quality.

[pseudo bolt]

And in a lot of cases, the clones are basically the same or better lol. And real innovation is finally happening; BOX and clickiez for example.

[ionic briar]

yea

[pseudo bolt]

I'm not much of a modern keyboard fan, but the one thing done really well now is contactless designs. I love the influx of new hall effect and optoelectric switch designs, giving you the possibility of good linears without the need to dump lube in.

[ionic briar]

i agree
gateron's hall effect for steelseries and wooting is super exciting

[pseudo bolt]

Yee

Speaking of Model M/buckling springs though, took some reference photos of my SSK the other day. Destined for an SSK wiki article I'm working on for my site.

[unkempt dome]

love that keyboard ...

must be $$$ specially that clean

[fringe path]

I miss my buckling spring keyboard...

blues just arn't the same.

[unkempt dome]

completely different yes

[pseudo bolt]

Certainly are today. I got it in 2019 when prices were better than today. Still not cheap but certainly a relative bargain.

[unkempt dome]

I wish I had kept mine

[unkempt dome]

any thought on ttc demon switch ?

I can order the akko 3060b with those on the akko website directly and I can order the same keyboard on amazon.com with the jelly purple
I intend to get the jelly purple anyway at some point cause I'm a tactile guy so maybe getting it from the akko website would be a nice occasion to try some other linear than the gateron yellow I have and I wonder if it's worth getting the ttc demon just to try them if I intend in the future to get purple anyway

I have tecsee carrot waiting to be tried too ... same as tecsee purple panda

[supple gust]

and what’s more their clicky switches suck

[chrome ocean]

Yo I remember Linus did a video on putting keyboards in dishwasher, and the result was fine as long as it is completely dried. I'm thinking of washing my 7 years old G710+ with water, is this a good idea?

[rapid oracle]

Sell them and let the next owner deal with it

[chrome ocean]

I still need it

it's my only keyboard

[vale mist]

you could just clean it the normal way

take it apart clean the shell with dish soap and water

clean the PCB with compressed air and isopropyl alcohol if necessary

clean the keycaps with alcohol too

[chrome ocean]

True

[chrome raft]

omg its shark! and you're showing off my favorite board from your collection!

This is the best I can do. 1990 Model M, but damn would I love an SSK and get the Unicomp keypad or something

Remove the keypad when gaming

So fresh

[rapid oracle]

Damn that’s really nicely restored

[spark hatch]

no, they later disclosed that all of those keyboards quit working after a month

[chrome ocean]

wow, dodged a bullet there

if I didn't ask and took the keyboard straight to the sink..

[chrome raft]

lol

[spark hatch]

yea lol, they should really put a pinned commet or smthn on that video

if they dont already have one, I've never checked but I dont think they do

[chrome raft]

Here’s what it looked like prior to clean up and replaced a few caps.

[spark hatch]

Damn, looks good

[chrome raft]

Was also my first mech lol

[thin roost]

Just picked up my new keyboard

[spark hatch]

nice nice

[quick pulsar]

[subtle grotto]

keyboargasm

[urban glade]

Model F 👀

[plain lion]

What's the best keyboard I can get in for my gaming rig that comes in white and has RGB?

I've been looking at the G915 TKL but I'm not sure how I'd like the low profile

Preferably tkl

[rapid oracle]

What is your budget

[plain lion]

Money no object really, of course I'd rather keep it reasonable though so maybe around ~£250

[spark hatch]

hey I just saw that today

[lament mantle]

A man of culture I see😎

[spark hatch]

its garbage dont get it

[plain lion]

I was looking at the Apex Pro but it doesn't come in white iirc

[spark hatch]

I cant think of many white tkls actually

everything black :/

[plain lion]

I'll happily go full size if necessary

I do never use the numpad

[spark hatch]

have you ever looked at 75%s?

the keychron q1 comes in white and is pretty nice

[plain lion]

I have and I think they would do the job. They're also quite aesthetically pleasing

Because they keep the function keys

[spark hatch]

theyre an tkl thats compacted

some people just dont like layout tho

[plain lion]

Doesn't look bad to me

No left shift? Lol hang on

[spark hatch]

take a look at the keychron q1 its a pretty decent board and i think thats under 250

[spark hatch]

it has left shift?

[plain lion]

I saw a 75% without left shift and assumed 75% keyboards lacked a left shift key

But I seem to be mistaken

[plain lion]

I will, thank you

[rapid oracle]

Wait for keychron q3

[spark hatch]

oh right I forgot they were making a tkl verson

my bad

[outer citrus]

Would tactile switches be good for me? I cant rlly have a loud keyboard so clickys are ruled out for me but I do a lot of typing

[quick pulsar]

Budget?

[outer citrus]

200 dollars at most

[quick pulsar]

USD?

[outer citrus]

I already know what base keyboard I’m getting

[outer citrus]

Yeah

[outer citrus]

Keychron c2

[quick pulsar]

If you can go 5 pin go with holy panda x 5pin or holy panda x 3pin

[outer citrus]

Holy pandas

Those are quite pricy right?

[quick pulsar]

About $90aud for 105

[outer citrus]

My wallet might hurt a little bit for that

[quick pulsar]

It’s manly just preference some people may like browns more than hp’s

[spark hatch]

I dont like holy pandas

[outer citrus]

Wait

Keychron c2s are hotswappable

[spark hatch]

indeed

[outer citrus]

I already know linear switches are good in my opinion

[spark hatch]

its a option

[spark hatch]

not really, its all preferance

[outer citrus]

Ima just get gat reds for now

Cause a keyboard isn’t that great if you don’t like it

[quick pulsar]

Gatorade reds

[spark hatch]

fair

[outer citrus]

At the very least I won’t be stuck with a keyboard that I don’t like

[spark hatch]

yea

[outer citrus]

And I’m not particularly picky about what I type with but I can’t stand keyboards that I just hate the feeling of

[spark hatch]

ah

[outer citrus]

The only nonmechanical keyboards i can really stand are laptop keyboards

Cause they typically don’t have a mushy feeling to them

[spark hatch]

yea

[outer citrus]

I’ll even go as far to argue my school chromebooks keyboard is better than a lot of membrane keyboards I’ve tried

[spark hatch]

ive had bad experince with chrome book ones

but my asus laptop is nieee

[outer citrus]

Really I just need to know if I’m even going to like tactile switches

[spark hatch]

have you use clickys?

[outer citrus]

No

The only switches I’ve ever typed on are linears

[spark hatch]

o;h wait, a membrane is considered a tactile

[outer citrus]

A pretty bad type of tactile

[spark hatch]

a holy panda or zealios would be the same idea as membranes

[outer citrus]

Well

The tactilness of membranes isn’t that bad

It’s just the mushy bottom out that I don’t stand

Also membranes usually have a pretty weak tactile bump

[spark hatch]

if you like the feel of membrane exept the mushy part you would probably like tactiles

[outer citrus]

Doesn’t microcenter have some of those keyboard stands

Where you can kinda try out the keyboard

[spark hatch]

oh yea

[outer citrus]

Except most keyboards that microcenter sells are using cherry switches

[spark hatch]

all larger computer stores will have avouple boards on display

[outer citrus]

Which (common knowledge) arent that great

[spark hatch]

still wiill give you the idea if you like them or onw

not

[outer citrus]

True

I heard cherry browns arent the greatest

I guess it will give a base idea if you like them or not

[spark hatch]

they arent good yea

they're barely tactile but its all ⭐ preference ⭐

[outer citrus]

Can already hear the Keyboard enthusiasts crying at the sight of this

[crimson isle]

looks fine to me

looks better than most

[spark hatch]

put real keycaps on it and i bet it sounds actually pretty decent

[tough dragon]

i got red dragon k617

[spark hatch]

nice

you like it?

[thin roost]

DAMN

where can i get that?

[worldly shale]

no such thing as the "greatest" switch

browns are good if you prefer light tactility like i do

either way you'll be able to tell whether you like the feel of tactiles with them or not

[subtle grotto]

yea that one cardboard keyboard from yt 😫

real keyboargasm

[tough dragon]

yeah feel god

good

[crimson isle]

linear switch tier list where

[chrome raft]

That’s what I’m getting at the end of the month. So hyped. Getting Kalih box pink to resemble the click of my model M.

[rapid oracle]

Nice nice

Still waiting for my dell at102w, can’t wait to try alps

[chrome raft]

That has SKCM black right?

I’ve yet to try alps, but want to. Friend of mine builds custom alps PCBs I want to order and put SKCM blues in it.

Which he also sells lol

[spark hatch]

I think that was a analogy

[worldly shale]

still an inaccurate one tbf

[spark hatch]

That's fair enough

[dapper talon]

any common issues with the HyperX Alloy Origins Core? just getting a new keyboard to replace the g512 carbon (i got it as a gift, ik its shit but it still survived for like 2+ years)

[rapid oracle]

Uhh yeah, overpriced and basically trash

[dapper talon]

whats wrong with the hyperx aoc then?

[rapid oracle]

Basically any gaming keyboards suffer the same problem, overpriced and shitty in general

Not worth the money

[dapper talon]

i wouldnt say all
even then, they are the only ones i have access to rn

[night pecan]

alps was my biggest keyboard mistake i made. Purchased a bunch of green and brown and both sucked ass, even after ultrasonic + ro59tmkt and they weren't even in that terrible condition. Wouldn't get them unless they're NOS quality.

but ymmv

[subtle grotto]

crap i think im stuck at around 90 wpm avg

like before i go stuck on 80 wpm

[spark hatch]

you'll get around it

[night pecan]

just type more on discord

[subtle grotto]

oh i have a question

i plan on gummy oring mounting (removing all standoffs and using the oring to friction fit the keyboard) and i have a silicone plate dampener, in order to do oring mount do i have to get rid of the silicone plate damepener?

[spark hatch]

I dont think so?

dont quote me on that though

[subtle grotto]

well if u see the red thinh

thats the silicone platue dampener

[spark hatch]

oh hmm

[subtle grotto]

and when doing the oring mounty u also put the oring in between the pcb and plate

[spark hatch]

yea

yea it might have to come out? but I would try with it in there

[subtle grotto]

yup ill try both

cuz theres a switch down there for on and off

it might not go down all the way down

[spark hatch]

ahh

[obtuse rivet]

Hey, I am looking for keyboards but I don’t know what keyboards to buy

[supple gust]

there’s a really nice one coming out soon, the Keychron Q3, that is shaping up to be super good

I’m def buying one

and it’s not too expensive, only $130 i think for early bird- and it has a knob

[obtuse rivet]

What ones would u suggest from the current kbds in the market

The issue for me is the switch i want

[supple gust]

what switch

[obtuse rivet]

I use my keyboard more for gaming, but i do stuff that requires typing too

My wpm on avg is around 80

[supple gust]

probably get a tactile board

[obtuse rivet]

The thing is i have only used linear

[supple gust]

linear works too

if you like it

[obtuse rivet]

Just not sure what switch to use

[supple gust]

I thought you meant you’d never used mech

I’m not really a linear guy, can’t help you all that much

I prefer clickies and tactiles

[obtuse rivet]

I have, but in terms of mech kbd, only linear

are browns actually good or are they shite

[supple gust]

kinda crap, although hyperglide browns are supposed to be better

I highly prefer real tactiles like a Box Royal

[obtuse rivet]

Do u know what switches are in the section similar to browns?

As in good for both typing and gaming

[supple gust]

So generally Cherry switches are promoted as the “best” but actually they’re mediocre

best tactile for gaming would be, I’d say, Box Royal

As for clickies I’d go Box Jade, Box Navy, or Speed Navy (probably box jade, it’s my favorite)

[obtuse rivet]

I dont think i would use tactiles, since i prefer the smooth feel of the linears

But thanks

This would be great if i had the time to build my own kbd, but yeah

[supple gust]

yeah the only linears I’ve ever really used were Kailh Speed Silver. They’re great lubed IMO, but I am sure there are better ones

get whatever floats ur boat tho, “best” is generally subjective as long as build quality is there.

as long as it’s not flimsy and you like it, it’s good

[obtuse rivet]

Yea

I just need some insight from ppl who type but use reds

[unkempt dome]

there's no such thing as switch made for that or that are good for that ... it's only preference

[unkempt dome]

You can use whatever you like to type on or to game on

[crimson isle]

it is all about comfort in the end

what are you most comfortable with using for longer than 2 seconds

[thin roost]

Hello, I'm new to the mechanical keyboard world, and so sorry if this question sounds stupid

[rapid oracle]

Ask anyway

[thin roost]

Is the space-bar stabalizer supposed to be sunken in?

[rapid oracle]

Yes, that's a mounting style for stabalizer called plate mount

[thin roost]

Then why is it rattly?

I bought this keyboard yesterday, so I think it might just need time for the lube to set in

[rapid oracle]

Yeah you have to lube it and tune it right to make the rattling go away

[urban glade]

It’s all preference

If you’re looking for a strong tactile bump then I can see why one would be disappointed with browns

But I personally find the softer bump comfortable

You can only figure out what you like by trying it

Take other people’s opinions and suggestions into consideration for sure, but always value your own preference above that.. there’s nothing wrong with preferring something which most people don’t like, it’s your board, not theirs

[subtle grotto]

its normally rattly because of all the blank space where you insert the stabilizer wire to which gives the wire a lot of space to rattle around on the blank space

this is why lubing it can help reduce the rattle

and if done properly actually removing the rattle

[night pecan]

because its a crappy keyboard

[subtle grotto]

you can have a premium keyboard and have rattly af stabilizers lmao

[night pecan]

then its not premium bro

[subtle grotto]

are u serious

lmfao

i dont think you're getting the point

what im trying to say is that all stabilizers rattle when not properly tuned or lubed

even those stabies ones

they rattle when not lubed or tuned

cant just immediately say "becAUse ITs a CraPPy kEYboArD" lol

[night pecan]

those are crappy keyboards

staebies arent even that good, just hype by people who don't know better

pretool cherry or TX are superior

[subtle grotto]

you know what i won't even explain farther lmao

[spark hatch]

I'm with Nathan on this one lmao

[full hull]

Unless a keyboard is literally individually handmade then imo there is always a possibility to have rattly stabs

[spark hatch]

Yea

[full hull]

Like even high end keebs can just arrive dead

[sleek bronze]

What's you keyboard ? @night pecan

[night pecan]

I use my Aria

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112415.0

that was the proto, im using the peenk one

[sleek bronze]

Ok

[night pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/834817972773060630/916810103448031262/64F2AAB8-59DF-4705-AEDB-AAE3C1FBAFA7.jpg?width=855&height=1139

also have some other boards in rotation

[night pecan]

then get it handmade

[spark hatch]

or you can just do it your self

[sleek bronze]

https://m.imgur.com/a/PjUv4Bv

My diy kb

The stabs were ratty lmao

So annoying

[spark hatch]

looks actually pretty good

[sleek bronze]

The solution ? Just don't have 2u+ keys

[spark hatch]

lmao

I mean your not wrong~

that is one way to fix it

[sleek bronze]

Has anyone tried diy laser printing keycaps with toner die ?

[gray glacier]

Got me a DROP CTRL high profile with mx blues. I freaking love this thing

[spark hatch]

mx blues?

[gray glacier]

I have had reds, browns, speed clears, and now finally blue

[spark hatch]

I mean I love clickies but mx blues are not very nice clikies in my opinion

[gray glacier]

And I shall stick with blue for the foreseeable future

They are lubed, best switches I’ve ever felt

[spark hatch]

they're lubed?

you usually dont love clikies

[gray glacier]

I do

And I have nvidia broadcast so nobody hates me

Best of both worlds

[spark hatch]

I mean ig they're quiter if you lube them but it kinda defeats the perpose of the click bar then

gald you like them tho!

[sleek bronze]

Can I install Nvidia broadcast inside my gf ears ? :(

[spark hatch]

lmao

I just have my clikies in a separate board I only use on special ocations when I'm alone

or I wanna piss someone off

[gray glacier]

Nah, but a 200 pack of ear plugs is like $25

[sleek bronze]

🤣

[worldly shale]

nice!

glad you're happy with the board :)

i wish i could get some clickies but i can never seem to find any non blue switches at a cheap price

[spark hatch]

you can find box whites fairly cheap

but they're kinda eh

[neon karma]

Can someone recommend me a cheap keyboard that has hardware macro support and a good number of programable keys. The only caviate is this is for productivity at work so the macro functionality needs to be entirely hardware as I cannot install any software or special drivers on the machine. It doesn't need to be fancy just simple record and playback of keystrokes mostly for dialing phone extensions and occasionally for entering canned blocks of text without needing to type it over and over.

[sweet thunder]

Blues don’t have click bars, only a scuffed click jacket. Click bars are Chad clickies

[spark hatch]

oh shoot my bad, I meant click jacket

yea click bars are far superior to jackets

[sweet thunder]

Click jacket clickies sound terrible, cheap and rattly

[spark hatch]

yea

and click bars are a much crisper click

[sweet thunder]

Get something with QMK so you can flash macros directly to the firmware for driverless macros

[thin roost]

how?

you didnt even bother to ask what keyboard it even is lmao

[night pecan]

if it has bad stabs then it is crappy

having good stabs is a thing that makes a keyboard good

[stable ice]

Found this channel great

I'm bored and want to spend more money on a keyboard lol

Currently have a Glorious GMMK TKL board with Silent Alpaca switches and Razer keycaps cos there were no other options for ISO UK keyboards

Thinking of relubing the switches and replacing the keycaps for puddings cos why get an RGB keyboard where u can hardly even see the RGB

[spark hatch]

litterly all stabs are gonna rattle stock.

[stable ice]

oh yeah I haven't even lubed the stabs when I first done it so I gotta do that

[night pecan]

then dont leave it stock lol

if its stock unlubed stabs then its not a good keyboard

[spark hatch]

if you relube the switches you have clean off all tehold lube

[stable ice]

erm...

[night pecan]

ultrasonic works well for removing old lube

[spark hatch]

thats not at all how it works but im not argueing

[night pecan]

can get one for $25 on amazon

[stable ice]

can't I just lube on top

[spark hatch]

not recomended

[stable ice]

this time ima make it squishy as hell and put a ton lmfao

last time I might've went a little too less, was my first time doing it

[spark hatch]

just was them in warm soapy water

[stable ice]

thing is

idk if I wanna keep these silent alpaca switches

aren't they one of the best switches for quiet sounds

It's loud cos I push my keys all the way until it hits the board

[spark hatch]

no for quite builds you'll use silent switches

[stable ice]

silent switches probs better tbh

don't want an annoyingly loud switch

clicky click click

[spark hatch]

yea, thats what I just said

if you want a silent buils use silent switches

[stable ice]

Ima keep my silent alpacas then

they cost me like £115 bruv

[spark hatch]

ah

[stable ice]

yeah bought em off a guy on some selling subreddit

overpaid for this keyboard tbh

it looks cheap af when u look at it

another thing

do I get white keycaps or stick to black

the board itself is black, got black keycaps and see a ton of dust

but I think the dust is more on the board itself in between the switches

[spark hatch]

I would defintally lube your stabs but in terms of the swithch if you want to lube it you cant but its more work if its already been lubed

[spark hatch]

doenst matter

[stable ice]

ima lube the stabs yeah

gonna basically re-do it kinda

take all the switches apart

stick em in soapy water to get rid of old lube

relube

get new keycaps.. which is an nightmare to find

[spark hatch]

wdym they're a nightmare?

[stable ice]

ISO UK keycaps