peripherals

[rapid oracle]

Nothing

[unkempt dome]

ok

[rapid oracle]

That’s the point of custom keyboards

You pay for better quality

Better feeling

[unkempt dome]

well that's something it does better

so the kbd67 is better quality and feeling than the akko ...

[rapid oracle]

Also sound better

[unkempt dome]

I don't care about sound unless there's spring ping or stab rattle

I don't care about the pitch, the click, the thonk or whatever sound a keyboard makes ...

so like it's stiffer, heavier, better quality control than the akko ?

[rapid oracle]

The typing experience is not stiff, well at least for the one I built since it was pom plate

But yeah it have some weight

Quality is definitely better than most alternative in the price range

[unkempt dome]

huh ... south facing

[rapid oracle]

No interference with cherry profile

[unkempt dome]

yes ... but it's not something I really care about ...

is there a way to swap the right ctrl for the contextual menu key without having to install a software ?

[ionic briar]

north facing interference is still switch dependant as well btw

[rapid oracle]

You need via, a software

Which can do overlay and stuff

Pretty important for custom keyboards

Kbd67 lite pcb is flashed with via iirc

[unkempt dome]

meh ... is it bluetooth only or is there a dongle for 2.4ghz ?

cause I only see mention of bluetooth

[rapid oracle]

Bt only

[unkempt dome]

sad

also once you configure it with via ... do you need to have via on the pc all the time or I can just uninstall it ?

[rapid oracle]

I think you need to have it, I’m not sure

Why would you want to uninstall it?

[unkempt dome]

cause I don't like having software I don't use on my pc

if it doesn't need to have the software after first config I'll just uninstall it

like there's already enough stuff I don't want to add more than needed

[pulsar zealot]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k4-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-version-2 does this site also deliver to the Netherlands? because its twice as expensive at dutch retailers.

[spark hatch]

You'll find out at check out

I have no idea

[sharp raft]

hey guys which mechanical switch should i get for gaming? red or brown? I can't get blue cause my pc setup is next to my dad's room so i cant be too loud when i use my pc at late nights, i heard red is better for gaming and not as loud as blue but i'm still considering brown

[unkempt dome]

it's preference and nothing more

there's no such thing as a switch better for gaming

[spark hatch]

^

[unkempt dome]

unless the only thing you play is hardcore osu ... then you should get something with the lowest total travel possible which is most likely ultra slim keyboard with scissor switches

[sharp raft]

well its just valorant and apex

[unkempt dome]

then any switches will do ...

don't get into the gaming marketing bullshit

get the swiches you like the most and that's about it

if you want silent stuff get something with silent switches ... like cherry silent red, kailh silent box pink, kailh silent box brown, aliaz silent, zeal zilent, bobagum, boba u4 and many many more ...

or if you are rich ... topre silenced

[rapid oracle]

Someone said topre?

[subtle grotto]

yall know the car mats on the floor of cars right

i used it on my keyboard and it works supeisingly amazing compared to foam

ofc brand new car mat that hasnt been used

[subtle grotto]

dont know any of the methodology of it but it makes a deeper sound signature

[spark hatch]

yea

its a dense foam/insulation right?

[chrome raft]

ye ik

its just another sound dampening material

[wise kraken]

hello keyboard nerds

[spark hatch]

hey

[supple gust]

nah a Kailh Choc or Speed Silver would be better for osu

[unkempt dome]

They have longer total travel

[supple gust]

yes, but they are much better-optimized

[unkempt dome]

Still shorter would be better

[supple gust]

it would be better if a mechanical keyswitch was widely available with an even shorter travel. But a Choc or SS would be far better than the best of the best scissor switches

[unkempt dome]

If you say so

As you seems to be the expert on osu

[subtle grotto]

actually im unsure it its because its denser than foam or if its just bouncing back the sounds that makes a deeper sound sig not sure

[spark hatch]

Ah, ik what your talking tho

I'm m pretty sure it's insulation of a sort

[trail zinc]

thoughts?

[spark hatch]

I've never heard the nimble back. Have you looked into it?

[trail zinc]

yes

watched quite a few of reviews

[spark hatch]

Personally would jsut get a keychron c1 but if you're confident in that board alr

Also pretty sure the c1 is cheaper rn cause of a big sale they have rn

Lubing station is probably gonna be low quality but fine

Idk anything about akko switches so I'd wait for another response on that

Rust wrest kinda looks low quality but I'm sure it's fine

I'm 90% sure those keycaps are low quality although they would probably be fine

[trail zinc]

keycaps got good praise

was reccomended akko switches by multiple people

https://www.amazon.ca/Keychron-Mechanical-Keyboard-Tenkeyless-Backlight/dp/B08CNC3WNQ/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2X398EI22E0XS&keywords=keychron+c1&qid=1646539016&s=electronics&sprefix=keychron+c1%2Celectronics%2C164&sr=1-6 is this hot swappable?

[spark hatch]

I've heard good thing from akko switches but I've never tried them so I can't tell ya

I would get it on there website

[trail zinc]

idc about lube station because ill just use it once

[trail zinc]

cheaper from amazon

[spark hatch]

It's completely configurable on there website

[trail zinc]

like 40 dollars shipping from them

[spark hatch]

Really?

[trail zinc]

yeah

[spark hatch]

I thought it was 30 but alr

[sharp raft]

hey guys do reds and brown switches have a noticeable loudness difference or no?

[spark hatch]

No

[trail zinc]

different feel

[spark hatch]

Not in my experience they sound basically the same

[trail zinc]

linears are softer

[spark hatch]

^

[trail zinc]

browns are usually used in a basic keeb

reds are linears so they're a bit lighter for gaming

[spark hatch]

I would get it off they're website over amazon that's a third party seller and they're not very clear in the marketing

[trail zinc]

wait its not

found the hot swappable one

like a hundred bucks more

[sharp raft]

yeah, reds are more tactile and uses less force but overall im looking for a bit of quietness but i dont have the budget for a quiet mechanical keyboard so im buying the more basic ones in which im debating in whether brown or red, ive heard browns are the quietest but if it's not much difference with red then im probably going with red

[trail zinc]

if you game more get reds

[spark hatch]

I'd get on website lmao, it's +10 for hotswap

[spark hatch]

No

That's marketing bullshit

[trail zinc]

if you wull use it for school or something get browns

and DO NOT GET BLUES

loud af

[spark hatch]

It's all preferences. It doesn't matter what your using it for unless it's osu

[sharp raft]

well its mostly to not wake my dad up in the night when im late night gaming since my pc setup is right next to my dad's room ;-;

[sharp raft]

ofc blue is out of the question 💀

[trail zinc]

https://www.amazon.ca/Keychron-Swappable-Mechanical-Bluetooth-Gamer-Version/dp/B09NKRWYTY/ref=sr_1_13?crid=2X398EI22E0XS&keywords=keychron+c1&qid=1646539016&s=electronics&sprefix=keychron+c1%2Celectronics%2C164&sr=1-13 125 for a numpad and hot swappable

[trail zinc]

reds are slightly queiter since theyre softer

[spark hatch]

What do you think you would prefer a smooth motion from to to bottom or a small tactile bump in the middle of the keystroke?

[spark hatch]

Not really

[trail zinc]

but tactiles are close, just feel more like something from a library computer

[sharp raft]

is there a TKL or 67 version of this?

[spark hatch]

What's your budget?

[trail zinc]

https://www.amazon.ca/Keychron-Hot-swappable-Mechanical-Double-Shot-Tenkeyless/dp/B08CNBL4Z4/ref=sr_1_8?crid=2X398EI22E0XS&keywords=keychron+c1&qid=1646539016&s=electronics&sprefix=keychron+c1%2Celectronics%2C164&sr=1-8

thats the hot swappable one

non hot swapable is a 100 cheaper

[spark hatch]

That's over priced

[trail zinc]

but youll need a soldering iron

ik

[sharp raft]

well about 70 bucks at most

rip

[spark hatch]

Dude jsut link keychrons website instead of some third party Amazon seller lmao

[spark hatch]

If you want tkl get keychron c1 or for full size c2

[trail zinc]

shit

c1 from keychron directly is like 7 bucks more than amazon but its hot swapable

[spark hatch]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c1-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32321247182937

[subtle grotto]

WHAT

reds = tactile???

[sharp raft]

meant linear

[subtle grotto]

well based on my experience browns arent the "quietest"

on par with reds with the noise

[sharp raft]

then ill go with reds

[spark hatch]

really?

[subtle grotto]

hell no

they arent quiet

[spark hatch]

red and browns are basically the same for me, just the type of sound they make is differnty

[subtle grotto]

yes but what i said that it isnt quiet

[spark hatch]

I wouldnt base a decition like that on how loud it is I'd get the one I like the feel of better, your not gonna wake anyone up with a brown

[spark hatch]

yea, neither switch is "quite"

but they're not loud

[subtle grotto]

yea cuz people think they are "quiet"

which is a big misconception

[spark hatch]

yea

I mean I dont have reds or browns but comparing a phantom brown build to a gat yellow build I'd say they're pretty close in sound

the gat sounds alittle more muted but thats more dependent on the case then the swithch

[subtle grotto]

i put like a layer of foam on top of the car mat and that top parts sounds clackier than the bottom parts with no foam

i think i shouldnt put any foam

[spark hatch]

waht board is this?

that you're doing all this to

[subtle grotto]

still on that tester 68

[spark hatch]

ah

you like it?

[subtle grotto]

heck yea

[spark hatch]

sick

[subtle grotto]

even if its wireless

[subtle grotto]

actually being wireless is kinda good for reducing cables lmaoo

also i don't understand why people would build a silent mechanical keyboard, idk it just takes away the mechanical keyboard to it in my opinion, if you'd want silent then just stay with a membrane imo

[unkempt dome]

Akko lavender purple are better imo

Silent mechanical are nice

Way better feeling than a rubber dome board

[worldly shale]

silent mechs feel way better than a membrane

like first of all you don't get linear silents

and sound isn't the only thing people care about re:boards

there are plenty of silent switches that have the same feel as non muted ones as well

[rapid oracle]

It will be somehow different just because of the silent rubber

But yeah some with harder rubber will feel similar to non-silent ones

[subtle grotto]

ayee even if it was 15s first time getting 100wpm

[spark hatch]

ncieee

nicee

[ivory ingot]

W

[spark hatch]

I agree

[outer citrus]

Not the k70 💀

I seriously need to upgrade this

[subtle grotto]

OH MY GOSH

LETS GOOOO

[spark hatch]

Pog

[spark hatch]

Keychron c2 would be a nice upgrade if you wanted to stick with full size

[outer citrus]

Yeah

I do development so the number pad comes in handy for shortcuts and that

[spark hatch]

Ah

[outer citrus]

Also pretty nice for putting development key binds in games

Cause the number pad generally isn’t used in games

Thank you for your suggestion

[spark hatch]

Yea I'd go with c2 then

[spark hatch]

Ah that's handy

[outer citrus]

Hotswappable right?

[spark hatch]

It's all configurable on there website, yes they have a hotswap version

[outer citrus]

Alright thank you

I’ll check it out

[spark hatch]

Np

[outer citrus]

Ngl that keyboard genuinely looks good

[spark hatch]

Only complaint with it really is it's abs keycaps which is fine cause I like abs but lots of people don't, north facing rgb so cherry profile keycaps have interference

Build quality is excellent for plastic build

[outer citrus]

Ima add it to my list of things I cannot afford yet

[spark hatch]

If you care about acoustics tho it's ehh, it's a very high pitched board and kinda hard to combat

[spark hatch]

Lmao

[outer citrus]

Welp I have a birthday coming up so I better start begging my parents

[outer citrus]

Acoustics aren’t really something I generally worry about. As long as a keyboard doesn’t feel like there sand in it or sound like an echoy mess it works for me

[spark hatch]

I mean rn is as good a time if you could get some extra cash, they having a sale thing. 30% off most baords

[outer citrus]

Yeah

It’s going to be interesting getting a keyboard like this since my pc gaming life I’ve been using keyboards like k55s and k70s

[spark hatch]

https://youtu.be/jvOwDAwuGNo

First bit of it is before and after modding if you were curious

[outer citrus]

Aight

[spark hatch]

Damn

Yea that would be a big improvement

[outer citrus]

My first gaming keyboard was a 15 dollar xtreme gaming keyboard I got at menards while my dad was shopping for wood

Along with a matching xtreme gaming mouse

It was shit

The keyboard was echoy rubber dome junk

The mouse felt cheap

[spark hatch]

Ah, I actually recently "fixed" of one those 15$ extreme gaming boards

[outer citrus]

Surprisingly good ergonomics tho

I have an old corsair k55

[spark hatch]

Ah that's handy

[outer citrus]

It was the upgrade I got from that cheap keyboard

It served me well. I gave it a deep clean recently as well

[spark hatch]

I've actually touched a Corsair board

[outer citrus]

It was so filled with crumbs and the keys were sticky

Some isopropyl alcohol and about a hundred q tips later it was clean

[spark hatch]

Yikes

[outer citrus]

Surprising

Since corsair makes their keyboards so hard to open

I don’t even know why

[spark hatch]

I can't stand dirty keyboards so

[outer citrus]

My current keyboard is in need of a good cleaning too

[spark hatch]

I probably spray my board with canned air at least 5 times a day

[outer citrus]

I eat at my desk so my keyboard gets filled with crumbs and stuff

[spark hatch]

I do too but I don't use my board as a plate

[outer citrus]

And since I was busy with school and a little bit of yknow mental shit I haven’t cleaned my keyboard

[spark hatch]

Ah I mean that's fair

[outer citrus]

Gonna give that bad boy a deep clean when I wake up

I’ve had pretty positive experiences with corsair keyboards

My k55 was great never had an issue with it

[spark hatch]

I Jsut can't stand knowing anything is dirty, except my mouse that thing looks fucking discussing

[outer citrus]

My k70 was decent except the volume wheel is a bit wonky

[spark hatch]

That's good

[outer citrus]

My mouse is filthy

Corsair fans I’ve had the worst experience with tho

2 of the 3 corsair fans I’ve bought failed after a year

One of them started making a weird grinding noise and the rgb went out

[spark hatch]

I would love to clean my mouse but I'm a drag clicker and when ever I clean it I can't drag properly for acouple days till finger grease gets back on the surface

[outer citrus]

The second one started making a grinding noise

And since I lost the screws it’s held in with zip ties and remains forever off

[spark hatch]

Also never had they're fans

[outer citrus]

Cause I’m too lazy to cut the fan out

The last one is working good

[outer citrus]

Lmfao ever tried tape?

The g502 doesn’t drag click for me

[spark hatch]

I've used Corsair lpx ram which has been great and a random vorsain power supply that's been good bit I've had friends have there power supplys fair from Corsair so I'm kinda jsut 🤞it

[outer citrus]

Never got it to drag click ever

[spark hatch]

Don't like it, don't get as high

[outer citrus]

Surprising since this cheap little wireless hp mouse I have can drag click

But it’s so terrible it doesn’t register half the clicks

[spark hatch]

Logitech has a really high debounce time

[outer citrus]

Yeah

[spark hatch]

I can get a constant 25~ short drag and 40-60 long drag

[outer citrus]

I don’t even use half the buttons the mouse has tho

But I like the ergonomics of the g502

[spark hatch]

Yea

[outer citrus]

A little bit heavy tho

Little bit of a pcmr violation

I have a gaming desk

[spark hatch]

I liked my 502, but I switch it for 305 then 705 and now I'm on roccat kain 100aimo

[outer citrus]

Well I didn’t buy it, my dad got it for me as a Christmas present

[spark hatch]

Ah

I honestly didn't mind the weight

I had all the weittghs in, it could have been heavier for all I care

[outer citrus]

It’s a surprisingly good desk tho. Very sturdy. I just don’t like that it’s red since I’ve kinda switched my whole vibe from red to blue-purple

[outer citrus]

Nice

[spark hatch]

Ah, yea the gamer red

[outer citrus]

I used to like red

Everything I had was red

[spark hatch]

I have a kitchen table that has got to be from at least the 70s

It's old asf

[outer citrus]

Red phone case, red switch controllers, all the rgb set to red

[spark hatch]

But it's big and looks cool so I do replace

Ah

[outer citrus]

Now my rgb is constantly on rainbow mode and I don’t rlly care enough to change it

[spark hatch]

I've always had the light blue vibe

Cyan ish

[outer citrus]

Since I have like 7 different lighting softwares

[spark hatch]

I've got one lmao

[outer citrus]

I kinda wanna make my setup a white blue purple setup

White desk, white pc, blue purple rgb

[spark hatch]

That's a nice color theme

Oh

Damn yea that be nice

[outer citrus]

My monitors tho

They aren’t really the greatest

They are good tho

1080p 75 hz led panel for my main monitor

And a 1080p 60hz lcd panel for my second

Fairly good monitors never had any issues with them

Might swap em out for 1440p 90hz tho

[spark hatch]

My secondary display is color accurate but 22" and 75hz while my main is 165hz, 1080p, 24", and it's ips but colors are absolutely gargabge aswell as Contrast ratio

Ah

[outer citrus]

Oof

I believe my main monitor is color accurate

My second one is a bit less saturated tho

[spark hatch]

That be nice, what specific monitors have you looked at if any?

[outer citrus]

Not many

[spark hatch]

Ah

[outer citrus]

Have been looking at some Samsung monitors tho

I also have a random tv above my setup

Since this isn’t rlly about keyboards anymore should we move the convo

[spark hatch]

That's handy, as someone whom does a fair bit of video editing it's a pain in the ass having to move premiere over to the second monitor to do your color adjustments

[outer citrus]

Yeah

[spark hatch]

Ah, damn that tv tho

[spark hatch]

Yea prolly should

[outer citrus]

Ye

#tech-chat-2

[spark hatch]

#tech-chat-1 prolly

Sure

[chrome raft]

Board nowworks

thanks to a friend who made the pro micro TMK converter

[rapid oracle]

Really nice

What alps does it have?

[spark hatch]

Nice nice

[chrome raft]

these are Space Invader Keyboards

these have Space Invaders switches

can look it up as to what those looks like

these are the black linear ones

heavy

[rapid oracle]

[supple gust]

why not grab a 1080p 165hz or 1440p 144hz?

[supple gust]

neat! my normal typing rate is 60wpm but I can get it to 100 if I type fast

also that's on my heavy tactile board, I kinda wonder how fast I'll type once I finish building my linear (probably either Kailh Speed Silver or something) or my clicky board (box midnight jade)

also I'll be building a board on silent Bobas one of these days

[chrome raft]

haha immediately

new best on a vintage board

i did not reach 120 on my current boards

[subtle grotto]

any thoughts?

im sorry if theres a lot of mic feedback

still testing where i can put the mic where theres not much mic feedback

[chrome raft]

the spacebar is a bit too hard but it sounds alright

[subtle grotto]

what do you mean by a bit too hard

[rapid oracle]

leopold fc750r

@chrome raft

np

[dawn swan]

what is a good threshold to detect chatter with a program like EK switch hitter

in miliseconds

[hasty mantle]

Best keyboard over all?

[unkempt dome]

there's no such thing as best keyboard

it depends of what you like and what features you need

[hasty mantle]

Um ok

[dawn swan]

i would just avoid corsair

i had two of them with cherry mx brown that had chattering out of the box

[unkempt dome]

avoid any gaming brand

[dawn swan]

and someone else i knew had chattering

on corsair

[unkempt dome]

unless you are deep into the ecosystem ...

[dawn swan]

ive used durgod k310 for over a year now with blue switches and it seemed good

has a really heavy switch plate

i think 6 switch options on amazon

[unkempt dome]

only cherry I think

which is really sad

and also no hotswappable option

[dawn swan]

i replaced all the switches on mine yesterday

[unkempt dome]

which is even sadder

[dawn swan]

using kailh box now

took a long time to desolder though

[unkempt dome]

yeah I don't want to bother with desoldering

[dawn swan]

i cant tell if these switches are chattering though

or if im just not used to linear

a few keys i double type sometimes

box black and box yellow

[unkempt dome]

never had any keyboard do that

[dawn swan]

it happened on i think corsair k68 with brown switches

happened day one of use on specific keys

then i returned it to the store and got another one same issue but different keys

went away if you hit the key like 10 times in a row but would come back later

[unkempt dome]

that's some defect there ...

[dawn swan]

might be happening on a few keys now on the keyboard i finished putting back together but i dont really have any spare switches

only ordered alittle over the amount needed to replace the old switches

[vale mist]

Corsair boards are extremely prone to chattering

I've had 4 k95s chatter on me

it's a defect of the PCB most likely

[dawn swan]

ive had 30 dollar mechanical keyboards with 0 chattering

then 100 dollar corsair with it

great brand

only thing i liked was the software

[vale mist]

yea Corsair is just a brand to stay away from in terms of periferals, all of them are garbage

I've had mice double click and brick, headsets brick all from corsair

[dawn swan]

i had a corsair PSU that survived being abused repeatedly

coolant spilled into it while running

just washed it out and it worked again

[vale mist]

only things Corsair sells are good are PC components and cases

[dawn swan]

theres a clip of someone sponsored by corsair playing tarkov

picking up his keyboard blowing on a key

all corsair peripherals

[spark hatch]

What layout do you want?

[spark hatch]

Honestly I'm ok with there mice

Only big gaming commpany that can double click

[supple gust]

well, cases maybe. their ram is dogshit

[vale mist]

anything happen with yours?

[supple gust]

I don't use corsair

it has a high DOA rate

and it doesn't hit specs

[vale mist]

interesting

only ever user gskill ram myself so yea

[hasty mantle]

normal

[spark hatch]

helpful

like full size tkl, 75%

ect

[spark hatch]

I havent had issues

[hasty mantle]

65

[spark hatch]

keychron k6 is pretty nice, or theres the rk61

[hasty mantle]

rk61

[spark hatch]

I think thats what its called

[hasty mantle]

gk61?

[spark hatch]

ah yes, sorry I forgot the name

[hasty mantle]

hold on

https://www.amazon.com/HK-Gaming-Mechanical-Illuminated-Programmable/dp/B07TH7SN8M?th=1

this is my config

for the ketboard

but im probably gonna swap the keycaps

[outer citrus]

Expensive

And my eyes can’t tell a difference

[supple gust]

a good 1440p 90hz panel is definitely going to be more expensive than a good 144hz 1080p panel

note good

your eyes can def tell the difference, you just think they can't

reduces eyestrain and reaction time by a lot, especially if you play shooter games

[spark hatch]

just note those are optical switches but looks fine

[hasty mantle]

ik

[spark hatch]

alr just letting you know

it gives you less switch options in the future

[unkempt dome]

Way less

[outer citrus]

Aesthetic keyboard

I mean they look nice but why

Half of the ones I’ve seen aren’t even mechanical

Plus they are overpriced

It’s just like I don’t see a point it’s too expensive and you aren’t even getting that good of a keyboard

Plus iirc you can get a solid board and get these pastel key caps for it and it will be way cheaper

[manic hatch]

Hi everyone, I am thinking about buying packs of optical switches to build my own keyboard. But how would I check their compatibility with the different PCBs?

[cyan tundra]

Who needs a gaming keyboard when the SAMSUNG PLEOMAX PKB-720B kicks ass?

[cyan swift]

Big fan of Keychron keyboards

[cyan tundra]

I've gone through 3 keyboards and I always come back to this one, super asf durable

gimme a USB version and i'm set for life

[cyan swift]

I do like me some girthy enter keys

[cyan tundra]

aw crap thats not my enter key

why is it so massive

[cyan swift]

It's a gaming keyboard

[cyan tundra]

the superior enter key

seriously for those 1 space backspace keys

how the hell do you survive

(im sorry that was too harsh, i'm just used to 2 space backspace key)

[spark hatch]

Looks kinda wack with those keycaps ngl

[spark hatch]

Why optical?

[outer citrus]

Yeah

These keyboards were a trend

Kinda died off tho but i still see some people using them

They aren’t good keyboards idk why people buy them

[urban glade]

afaik almost no standalone pcbs support the optical switches

[cyan tundra]

It looks like if the team behind Material You made a keyboard

But I dig it

[spark hatch]

Yea it doesn't even look good quility

[outer citrus]

Yeah

They look cheap and gimmicky tbh

[manic hatch]

I thought that they have a longer lifespan and faster response time.

[spark hatch]

Durability is prolly to but the response time is marketing bullshit, your not gonna notice it

[urban glade]

i'm still using cherry switches from the 80s without issues

[spark hatch]

I wouldn't get optical there's no choices for switches and very little board options as a whole

[urban glade]

lifespan is usually not an issue lol

[outer citrus]

Ehh i wouldn’t say they are worth it

[spark hatch]

Old cherry was good

New Cherry's are terrible

[manic hatch]

🤔

[outer citrus]

That is true

[urban glade]

sometimes miss my vint cherry collection 😔 they're good boards

[outer citrus]

Didn’t cherry used to kinda dominate the switch market

[urban glade]

but at least i only have ones that i use now

[spark hatch]

Yea

[urban glade]

yea but then the patent ran out

lol

[spark hatch]

I think they still do for the most part?

[outer citrus]

But then gateron and other companies started making more variants of switches

[spark hatch]

They do t make good switches anymore though, they jsut running off reputation from when they did make good switches

[outer citrus]

So there’s more variety outside of cherry

[boreal rivet]

cherry was good for like 5 years in the 90s lmao

[spark hatch]

Yea

[spark hatch]

Pretty much

[outer citrus]

My current keyboard has cherry mx silvers

They suck

[urban glade]

i have a single board with mx blacks now

[boreal rivet]

they havent been good for the most part of the internet age

[outer citrus]

They are pretty cheap and terrible sounding

[spark hatch]

I don't own a cherry baord but I've used ple ty

Plenty

[subtle grotto]

yes those vintage blacks mmm mmm

[outer citrus]

Might also be because I’m using a corsair k70

[spark hatch]

Yea

[outer citrus]

And corsair keyboards are a bit echoy and bad sounding

[spark hatch]

Idfk why people think they're goid

Good

[outer citrus]

Yeah

It’s just overpriced

I got it as a Christmas present tho

Way before custom keyboards took off

[spark hatch]

Yea they are very pricey

I've only had 2 OEM baords

[outer citrus]

The build quality isn’t that great for being metal either

[urban glade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775435470577860630/948911498879705088/MG_5014.JPG

vint blacks r a meme

[outer citrus]

My volume wheel is already screwed up

[spark hatch]

G915 and I think it was the g905 or smthn?

[urban glade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440449447743324182/949060446055436378/MG_5043.JPG

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440449447743324182/949060447062089738/MG_5035.JPG

[spark hatch]

It was a full size membrane that's all ik

[boreal rivet]

hot dcs

[urban glade]

i'm glad i have a board for soware now

[spark hatch]

Pretty board

[urban glade]

gonna try dolch replica at some point, when i have a second plate/pcb

[outer citrus]

What are y’all’s favorite switches

[urban glade]

topre 30g lol

[boreal rivet]

lmao

[urban glade]

fav mx will be a good batch of vintage browns

[boreal rivet]

topre 55g and skcm orange

[urban glade]

but most browns are fine

[boreal rivet]

did you ever get into vint blue memes

[urban glade]

i have a set

saving them for a CL

[boreal rivet]

ah nice

[spark hatch]

Kenetic labs penguins atm

[urban glade]

i fuck with them, and i figure putting into CL would be funniest

just gotta find one first T_T

[spark hatch]

Lmao

[urban glade]

i missed one for good price, and since then i've been hunting hard

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443851583546195980/949597096242217031/cachedImage.png mx do u know shit about this connector? i wonder why its so popular, i much prefer normal connector

[boreal rivet]

no idea what that is

whats it called

[urban glade]

idk

apparently it was popular a while back

[boreal rivet]

gotta ask the koreans lmao

[spark hatch]

Oh I was jsut looking at those

[urban glade]

this shit was built by gon

[boreal rivet]

I wonder why more people dont use XLR

[urban glade]

his building isnt bad at all, but i dont love it

stabs are overlubed to my preference

[boreal rivet]

builders are overhyped as hell anyway, its not like they have a standard to follow

[urban glade]

i think he usually signs the pcb

i gotta take the board apart sometime to check

my cheat flexes more than this, i was quite surprised

it doesnt feel bad but its not particularly impressive

still nice to have a linear board though i guess

[boreal rivet]

how many kustoms do you have btw?

[urban glade]

3?

356n mk2, 356cl dge, cheat

[boreal rivet]

huh I thought you had more

cool though

[urban glade]

i have more vint stuff - 2x ansi 5k

i had an LZ-S a while back but i traded that for a couple artisans

[boreal rivet]

yeah i remember those

you said you keep the spare incase the first one dies right? kek

[urban glade]

heheh

gotta justify hoarding somehow

its the board which truly made me fall in love, having both variants (in a layout i can actually use) is neat

[spark hatch]

Lmao

[urban glade]

its quite disappointing how the tx case seems to have nowhere for fixed cable to go

almost as if fixed cable customs arent common anymore 😞

[boreal rivet]

good riddance 🙂

[spark hatch]

I mean I dont see why you would want a fixed cable, it's alot nicer having a detachable one

[urban glade]

yeah thats very fair

i think they look nice

and detachable ps/2 cables arent common

[spark hatch]

Ah yea

[royal jacinth]

guys is the TT esports by thermaltake good

[spark hatch]

I wouldnt think so

[royal jacinth]

https://www.ttesports.com/productPage.aspx?p=188

[spark hatch]

no that looks like garbage

how much is it?

[spark hatch]

Heres my recommendation: https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32294074581081
https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g305-lightspeed-wireless-gaming-mouse.html

[royal jacinth]

120$ cad

[spark hatch]

yea nah I woudnt get that

if you want a full size kb I'd get a keychron c2 and g305

[subtle grotto]

oh hek naw

[royal jacinth]

oh ok

[vapid canyon]

I need a recommendation for a keyboard. I'm looking for something that is good to type on, isn't obnoxiously loud, has a numpad and media keys, and preferably rgb. Any suggestions? Thanks!

I tend to like red switches, so something with reds would be ideal

[spark hatch]

keychron c2?

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32294074581081

[vapid canyon]

yeah but that's a mac keyboard

[spark hatch]

no its not

[vapid canyon]

it has a mac layout in the picture

[spark hatch]

you have to switch 4 keys and flick a swithch

[vapid canyon]

but the media keys are on the function keys

but ig those are just accessible with fn?

[spark hatch]

yea fn and then the f keys

idk many full sized with dedicated media that arent terrible sorry

[vapid canyon]

all good

it does look good apart from the white keycaps, but ig I can replace those

For Linux users, we also have a dedicated user group to help with the experience.

hm

this seems good

oh weait

they mean a literal fb group

not a linux users group lmao

[spark hatch]

you dont like them? yea you can get third party just note if you get cherry profile the rgb is north facing so theres some interference

[vapid canyon]

ok

Thanks

[spark hatch]

np glad to help

[outer citrus]

is having both a 60% and a full sized keyboard a good idea

[royal patrol]

if you have a separate gaming and productivity rig then it makes a lot of sense, if you only have one desk setup then i dont see the point

[outer citrus]

cause i kinda wanna have a keyboard i can put on a mount on my wall to look cool but then can be swapped out when i need to actually use my full sized keyboard

[royal patrol]

if you see yourself using a numberpad you could build a separate little numpad board

those are cute

but if youre a frequently productive person id recommend staying at 75% or TKL

[outer citrus]

hmm

i dont use the number pad too often but i do have some keybinds set to the numpad in a few of my games and i do use it as developer shortcuts and debug keys

but i do like the idea of having a smaller keyboard when i dont need the extra keys

i probs could get a tkl then make a numberpad extension

[spark hatch]

me with 5 keybaords

[outer citrus]

then just put the numpad extension away when i dont need it

lmfao

im kinda in a race to upgrade from my old corsair k70

its a good keyboard but im starting to realize its flaws

speed silvers arent really that great of switches and corsair keyboards just have an overall bad quality for their price

[spark hatch]

I just like trying things

[royal patrol]

if you enjoy the hobby you could justify having a load of keyboards but if youve never built one before i suggest making one thatd fit your usecase best instead of making several immediately

[spark hatch]

the keychron q1 is my daily driver cause its super bounce and I like the typing feel

[outer citrus]

hmm

[spark hatch]

and then others are jsut idk they're there

[outer citrus]

speaking of building

whats a good switch to start with

[spark hatch]

I use the keychron k6 pretty often too, I use it for my laptop

[vale mist]

I like the idea of a keyboard for games and a keyboard for work

[outer citrus]

preferably linear and sounds decent

[royal patrol]

a linear switch with your preferred weight

[spark hatch]

its all preference

[vale mist]

linear or clicky if you like how it sounds

[royal patrol]

if you have no idea what you prefer and it's your first time id go with a medium weight linear

[spark hatch]

I have no suggestions for linear I cant stand them

[outer citrus]

also is switch lubing a really tedious process

[vale mist]

for linears gat yellows are pretty decent as a starter. cheap and are quite smooth once lubed

[spark hatch]

I'd presonally say tactile since most people are coming from membranes, a tactile is gonna feel closer to home

[royal patrol]

akko brand switches are really cheap and have a lot of options for weight and travel
https://www.amazon.com/Akko-Switches-Compatible-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B09K7QX9QK

[spark hatch]

eh, I dont mind it

I also do it "wromg"

[royal patrol]

they also have tactile if youd rather that

[spark hatch]

I just lube the stem, just use double the lube, and bag lube sptings

[outer citrus]

would it be a smart idea to get one of those switch testers

[vale mist]

switch testers are more about feel than sound

[spark hatch]

do you have a local tech store?

[outer citrus]

sorry for all the questions this is my first time actually doing custom keyboard stuff

[vale mist]

sound will change depending on plate, mods and case and keycaps

[royal patrol]

sound has a lot more to do with the case and mods than individual switches of the same type

[outer citrus]

theres a microcenter about an hour away from me

[royal patrol]

i really advise against going all the way down to 60% your first time especially if youre a developer and use the extra keys semifrequently though

[rapid oracle]

Also mounting styles

[royal patrol]

i wouldnt look any lower than 75% in that case

[spark hatch]

if you want to see how a switch sounds no, but for feel they could be alr, or you could go to a tech store and just try the display units

[royal patrol]

you can find compact full size or TKL boards

[outer citrus]

hmm

[rapid oracle]

1800

[outer citrus]

i dont rlly use the home cluster at all so that seems viable

[rapid oracle]

You can just get a 60% and a separate numpad

[royal patrol]

that's a lot more money and work for somebody who's never done this before

[outer citrus]

hmm

i might just get a full sized keyboard

[spark hatch]

i'd just get a keychron c1/2 cause there cheap

[royal patrol]

if you want a compact but fullsize board like this theyre usually called 96%

[spark hatch]

compact full size's look so nice

[royal patrol]

i want a tight-knit TKL like that

i dont like how most TKL boards have unneeded space between key sets

[spark hatch]

ah

my fav is exploded 75%

[royal patrol]

75% is getting pretty popular

[spark hatch]

everything is there but it doesnt look cramped together

[royal patrol]

i prefer cramped

[spark hatch]

it is, I never really saw many people using it till like gmmk and q1 now it seems quite popular

[royal patrol]

75% is nice but the majority of them have spacing between keys or rotary knobs

a rotary knob is useless to me i use a dacamp

[rapid oracle]

75% is getting old

[spark hatch]

yea the knob is jsut a novelty I never found them usfull

like fn f12 and 11 work just fine

[royal patrol]

i want to see more quality cramped TKL boards

that are basically the same size as these larger 75% boards anyway

[rapid oracle]

hhkb >

[outer citrus]

im back

accidentally kicked my router powercord

[royal patrol]

why is it that 75% boards almost always have insert keys but i havent seen a cramped TKL that has it

ive used pgup/down maybe 4 times in my entire life but use insert every day

[outer citrus]

whats the insert key even do

ive never touched it once

[royal patrol]

it's used to open a lot of gui menus within games

[outer citrus]

o

[royal patrol]

namely cheat menus

[outer citrus]

lol

alright ima go play some oculus

cya

[spark hatch]

I think they're just fillers to get a rectangle tbh

[royal patrol]

peace

[spark hatch]

I use pg up and down a fair bit tho

[royal patrol]

ive never used it

[spark hatch]

and I use home and inspect in some of my games

[royal patrol]

i use home and insert frequently but not pgup/down

[spark hatch]

only reason I use it is cause I dont like having to scroll a ton just to get back to the top of a website

ah

[subtle grotto]

exploded 65 much better than exploded 75 tbh

all ur needed keys are in exploded 65

well maybe u dont need pgup and down too much but yea lol

[spark hatch]

I use f row alot

so I disagree

I like my 75%

[subtle grotto]

i meant for me

since i dont use f keys much

[spark hatch]

ah i see

[royal patrol]

i recommend 75% to most people because there's far fewer quality value TKL options

[spark hatch]

ah

[ornate wharf]

60%

[rapid oracle]

🤝

hhkb layout the best

[wooden iron]

There are plenty of 60+% options

It's when you hit the barren wasteland that I live in aka 40% that there are frighteningly few options

Esp rgb wise

[royal patrol]

use a 60% then

[outer citrus]

Are holy pandas still any good or are they dead trends

[eternal wraith]

depends on preference, but the holy panda x is apparently an improvement

[outer citrus]

Speaking of holy pandas

I saw something feker holy pandas

Supposedly holy pandas but a bit cheaper

[eternal wraith]

ive heard feker pandas being described as 80% of a holy panda

[outer citrus]

Those any good?

[eternal wraith]

you can try them out but i can't vouch for their quality as i have not tried them nor do they use the holy panda ingredients

[subtle grotto]

yea feker pandas are basically like 80% close to a holy panda

but feker pandas are slightly higher pitched than holy pandas

goddamn first time filming my switches and its so fricking satisfying for having tight top housings

[full hull]

They also die like incredibly fast

I'm very sure that Feker just doesn't do any QC for their switches

[subtle grotto]

damn thats sad

so if you potentially buy it make sure you have backup switches

[full hull]

It's like 30$ for a full 120 set you'll deffo have backup switches

[subtle grotto]

what the hell

.25 a switch? goddamn

[full hull]

Pros: Cheap
Cons: CHEAP

[subtle grotto]

i mean, its cheap so expect it to not last long

[ionic briar]

the quantity is good enough that your odds of borked switches are low

[full hull]

I had 75% of mine fail within the first 6 months

[ionic briar]

the percentage i should said

[full hull]

Though they weren't Feker Panda, they were Feker Airy

Like every week they'd have issues registering keypresses

[subtle grotto]

oh dang

[random sleet]

So... I have a membrane keyboard rn, I was thinking about getting a razor mechanical keyboard (since I have a razor mouse already, having one program for both would be nice) never used a mechanical keyboard before and don't have a lot to spend, any recommendations?

[full hull]

Razer mechanical keyboards are quite bad, what's your budget and where you live?

[random sleet]

£70-90, uk

Not dead set on razer, if they're not worth it

[rapid oracle]

They're not

[full hull]

What layout? @random sleet

[random sleet]

Whatever full minus numpad is

[urban glade]

Tkl

[full hull]

No as in american or UK @random sleet

[random sleet]

Uk

[full hull]

Ok so that's like 90% of keyboards off the table lmao

[urban glade]

May be able to get a used filco majestouch 2 on eBay

[random sleet]

What's different about us layout?

[long obsidian]

Lao

[full hull]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TECWARE-Phantom-Mechanical-Keyboard-Outemu/dp/B084RBZJ13/ref=sr_1_1
@random sleet This is the best UK layout keyboard on a budget

The GMMK Outemu hot swap version

I'd say durgod or something but I don't think you can get them for 70 GBP

[random sleet]

What's the difference between a uk layout and an american layout?

[full hull]

UK

[long obsidian]

☝️

[full hull]

@random sleet USA

[rapid oracle]

Basically ANSI and ISO

[random sleet]

I'm trying to figure out if I care enough about the difference 🤔

[long obsidian]

You do

[random sleet]

I learned to touch type pretty recently so I'm still flexible enough to switch without any problems

[full hull]

If you learned to touch type then it's extremely important that you stick to what you know lmao

[random sleet]

Ic

[long obsidian]

Lmao

[full hull]

Changing layouts do a number on touch typing

[random sleet]

Ok, uk layout it is then

[long obsidian]

Use the keyless

[full hull]

What switch type you like btw @random sleet

Red, Brown, Blue

[random sleet]

No idea lol

[full hull]

Clicky, Tactile, or Linear?

[random sleet]

I really wish there was a place I could just go and try them out 😣

[long obsidian]

It's called a store

[random sleet]

Ok, from what I'm reading, tactile

I think my freind has linear switches and it felt kinda bad to me so tactile sounds like more my thing

[random sleet]

Didn't go out much before covid... covid didn't help that 😅 but yeah, should definitely just go to a shop and try some out

[full hull]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TECWARE-Phantom-Mechanical-Keyboard-Outemu/dp/B084RBZJ13/ref=sr_1_1
@random sleet this is the tactile one then

[crimson isle]

smooth linear without noticeable bottom when

the one thing I dislike about mechanical honestly

[full hull]

Isn't this like the Apex Pro?

[crimson isle]

no idea

[random sleet]

The ones I tried had a very low actuation force too, felt super mushy and hard to tell when the key's actually pressed

[rapid oracle]

Go topre then

[random sleet]

Thanks for the recommendation @full hull

[ionic briar]

yea
then theres iso-uk, iso-de, iso-fr and a bunch of other subset that stems from the iso layout

[rapid oracle]

I just use qwerty anyway

[crimson isle]

never liked how mechanical switches feels like I am tapping on a brick honestly

[rapid oracle]

t o p r e

[crimson isle]

not an option tho

[rapid oracle]

L

[crimson isle]

unless I want to be limited to basic black keyboard

about the only reason I even touch custom keyboards

[woeful lantern]

Swapping keyboard layout is annoying I used to use Belgian azerty now I use UK qwerty but probably going to us qwerty tho iso still

Tho might get an ansi board in Alice layout tho I plan on an iso 75% first

[rapid oracle]

Get ortho

[woeful lantern]

Nah 75% wireless iso first. I need a wireless board as my main keyboard is a fullsize iso wired I have a few other cheaper fullsize boards that are also wired and need a compact wireless keyboard

[crimson isle]

I don't use wireless, I just run a 5 meter cable under carpet and through the heating

just can't turn it on now

unless I want to melt the cable

[woeful lantern]

I need it so I can work in vr and do rapid testing mouse is already wireless

[crimson isle]

I would like wireless, just sucks it isn't as common

wireless mouse is easy to find

tho I've used Mx master line for a few years now

[woeful lantern]

There are options tho not a lot most boards I find are ansi

For wireless keychron has some iso boards wireless

[crimson isle]

I most likely will just wait until MX master 4, lol

don't play games much, and they are actually a proper size, tho MX master 3 is great ergonomically, no gaps to be found, and no wrist pain

[woeful lantern]

Yeah Mx master mice are good I always use Logitech mice when I can. They just are the best Vs some other brands

[crimson isle]

mx master 3's scroll wheel will hurt me in the future

because it is just so nice in comparison

only issue is, it is extremely heavy

but for most uses, doesn't matter

ain't lifting your mouse much unless you actually play games

well, another issue is

discoloration

[woeful lantern]

Idk even for gaming the Mx master 3 is nice it's my daily user and I used to use a g502 before the og g502 but it's just broken over time tried a g502 hero se it's different the Mx master at the same dpi as the og g502 is almost the same Vs the hero g502 it's different

[crimson isle]

any liquid, fat or whatever just stains it, because it rubber
and it is pretty much glue'd onto the mouse, can slowly peel off

[woeful lantern]

At least you don't use a mice/keyboard from the dumpster. Have to use them at a refurbisher some of them are crap tho work still

[crimson isle]

no reason to, have enough money to buy anything I need or want (except for like 6000$ PC or smth)

tho honestly, there are some cheap mice that are fairly nice

[woeful lantern]

Annoying when I get an ansi keyboard I miss the enter key always

[crimson isle]

I wish there were more TKL options

and options that aren't black

white, or some light tint would be nicer

[crimson isle]

75-80% pretty much

[urban glade]

I quite like filco

Not flashy like some of the newer brands but well made and nice to use

[woeful lantern]

Annoying thing being stuck to iso enter gonna get a 75% this year and possibly a Alice style tho in typing I don't care about iso enter just for going into a bios and installer really prefer it. Might get a jis topre board sometime tho

[crimson isle]

I don't really have any options for keyboards, as I want white + pastel color mostly

fits best with the rest

[woeful lantern]

I found some nice looking iso keycaps on bangood for 40. Will get those when I get my 75% and swap my main keyboard keycaps to the 75%

Not sure on the switches yet I like my box white but probably not getting clicky switches in my 75 tho tactical for sure as when doing productivity I like the bump

Want to try linear switches at some point probably when I get an Alice tho gonna get hotswap on the 75% and alice

[crimson isle]

nah, just buy 150$ keycaps

[woeful lantern]

Issue is iso and the colour way...

Probably getting this Alice style board https://ymdkey.com/products/gbymdk-wings-aluminum-cnc-top-bottom-qmk-rgb-hotswap-v1-pcb-diy-kit

But my main keyboard is iso I know I can get used to ansi getting a bit used as have one ansi and want to get used to it but iso is just nice

[subtle grotto]

first time filming switches even if ive built a few keyboards now, not sure what kind of difference there is to an unfilmed switch

but i kinda think its unifying the sound of the switch because it removes the top housing wobble noise and stuff but idk

correct me if im wrong

[crimson isle]

it just causes it to close more tightly

pretty much

[subtle grotto]

yea but what are its benefits

[crimson isle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

probably not much

at least compared to many other things you could do

but you would open the switches either way to do those other things, so might as well

[subtle grotto]

yea i think acoustically wont do much lol

but it is satisfying comparing thr top housing wobble of an unfilmed switch to a filmed one lmao

[unkempt dome]

what is insert used for ... I don't think I've ever used it in 30 years of typing ...

[spark hatch]

yea

[karmic turret]

what keyboard should i buy, my budget is 120$

[spark hatch]

what layout?>

full size, tkl, 65%, ect

[bold wraith]

I have a ducky one 2 mini, love it

[spark hatch]

i'd prolly go for keychron c1/2

ducky one is kinda expensive if i remember

[chrome raft]

reduces top housing wobble

and switch wobble

to the swich wont wobble on the pcb

so

[regal galleon]

anyone got recommendations for some brown/brown-like switches?

[supple gust]

no because brown switches are a curse on humanity

there are good tactile switches and there are browns

I would recommend the Kailh Box Royal

Or the Boba U4/U4T

[spark hatch]

lmao

yea~

[unkempt dome]

Akko lavender purple

Best tactile for the price

If you want to pay more go for what is recommended above

Boba u4/u4t are premium

[coral ferry]

Cherry is a good brand

I'm looking for some Blacks or Super Blacks. are there any non cherry brands that make those?

[ivory ingot]

blacks are linears btw

[spark hatch]

I'm gonna have to disagree but if all you want is browns ig it alr

[coral ferry]

any clicky switches with the weight of blacks?

[full hull]

Gateron Green

[coral ferry]

anything heavier?

[full hull]

Kailh Box Navy

[coral ferry]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Piezo_igniter.jpg

[spark hatch]

tf is that, a sparker

[coral ferry]

if that's what you call it

[spark hatch]

igniter? idfk what they're called

they make a small spark thats all ik

[thin roost]

Hello! So I've recently been thinking about going to a new keyboard from my razer blackwidow ultimate (mainly because the spacebar has no stabilizer, the t key double clicks sometimes and because the d key doesn't register half the time).

And I found the ZET GAMING Edge Optical with Keith black switches.

Is this a good option?

[full hull]

How much is that keyboard?

[thin roost]

6k rub

[full hull]

It's not Keith, It's kailh btw

You don't have access to say Tecware Phantoms? @thin roost

[thin roost]

nope

[full hull]

Actually @thin roost how much is the non optical version?

It should come with Kailh Box Switches

Those are MUCH better in terms of longetivity

[thin roost]

same price

[full hull]

Then get that one

The non-optical one has Kailh Box

[thin roost]

how is it better?

[full hull]

The switches are better than optical

[thin roost]

yeah but how

[full hull]

The switches last basically forever

and also have IP56 rating

and are pretty good stock

at least better than Cherry imo

[thin roost]

should i go for gateron or keith?

[full hull]

It's their best lineup after all

[thin roost]

both red

[full hull]

Up to you I'd say whatever is cheaper

[thin roost]

same price

[full hull]

Kailh Box if you want like super little wobble

That's Kailh Box right?

Box switch?

[thin roost]

kaith box red

[full hull]

I personally prefer Kailh Box Red stock

[thin roost]

because of the whole conflict thing

prices have been sky high

[full hull]

Do you want smooth switches? @thin roost

Or like super little wobble

[thin roost]

eh

tbh idk

literally the only keyboard ive used is this razer one

[full hull]

Just go Kailh Box then imo

[subtle grotto]

working on the workman layout

[crimson isle]

8 words per minute? 🤔

pain

[subtle grotto]

well its really hard lol

[crimson isle]

in my case, I am limited by my hands, not by the layout

[subtle grotto]

coming from an avg of 90 wpm on qwerty

[crimson isle]

120-150 here

but my hands hurt if I were to type at 150wpm

110-125 more consistently

[subtle grotto]

but this layout is actually so good

[crimson isle]

could probably get higher WPM, if I weren't using just 7 finger to type

[subtle grotto]

i have minimal hand movement compared to qwerty

[subtle grotto]

im a 7 finger typer too

[crimson isle]

I twist my hands a lot, at least it helps with wrist pain

my left thumb ends up doing both space and U for example

helps a bit with longer times, just because I never end up sitting still

[subtle grotto]

this is probably going to take months but im committed

[crimson isle]

be like me, and just don't bother after 30 minutes

[subtle grotto]

how'd ur thumb go to U lmao

[crimson isle]

twist the wrist

[subtle grotto]

nah i really wakt to learn this layout

ill still use qwerty if i need fast typing

[crimson isle]

I can get fairly consistent burst speed on type tests mostly

but outside of that, usually a bit lower

[subtle grotto]

i get easily fatigue even with good posture etc.

even if its just 30s

[crimson isle]

I don’t even use a chair

[subtle grotto]

oh uhhh

improved a bit lol

[charred sonnet]

i got a logitech g213 prodigy, but most letters double type or just dont type at all, is it just a bad keyboard or could i have got a faulty one?

[unkempt dome]

Both

[spark hatch]

It's oem so they're all pretty bad but I would assume it's mainly faulty

It should at least function properly

[unkempt dome]

Indeed

[charred sonnet]

yeah i had a 20 quid cheap mechanical keyboard that was better than this

[unkempt dome]

Like not registering key is not supposed to be a feature

[subtle zealot]

Who is good to buy lubed banana splits from

[subtle grotto]

well someone that has good ratings lmao

[rapid oracle]

Lube it yourself, also banana split is pretty ass

[subtle zealot]

Im 2 lazy

[spark hatch]

it really doesnt take long

[subtle zealot]

2 hours bro

Im not doing it

[spark hatch]

it does not take 2 hours

I mean you dont have too but its definitely worth it

[subtle zealot]

I dont wanna buy expensive switches and then fuck them up bc I over lubed them

[spark hatch]

I heard I think it was durok? has a decent preplube but im not sure

[spark hatch]

its hard to do that, and you can just wipe the lube off. . .

[subtle zealot]

Nah

[spark hatch]

wdym nah, unless your dumping your whole brush with lube I wouldnt worry about over lubing

[chrome ocean]

Looking for keycap recommendations, not looking for quality or sound, just want some creative/funny individual keycaps

[spark hatch]

drop.com maybe?

[subtle zealot]

Gmk knockoffs

Or like anything on aliexpress.com

[rapid oracle]

Clones

[subtle zealot]

Who tryna spend 300 on some keycaps

[rapid oracle]

I do

[subtle zealot]

I dont