peripherals

[sweet thunder]

When T1s first came out people called them stealios because they were basically the same as zealios

[spark hatch]

same fab

[silent oyster]

GMK Monochrome?

Oh shoot thanks for the heads up! The TrackPoint is...not amazing on modern systems, at least in comparison to my daily keyboard (TEX Yoda II). I'll give that a whirl and let you know how it goes :)

[spark hatch]

hard to find in my ezperince

[unkempt dome]

Mine will get here within 2 weeks

[rapid oracle]

Anyone have experience with skcm black alps?

[frozen garden]

thats my keyboard

dont make fun of me

[boreal heart]

Idk my kbd67 lite was 70 shipping from divinkey and it costed me only 15 bucks after sns

[dapper talon]

Where do u live tho?

[rapid oracle]

Anyone have experience with skcm black alps?

[boreal rivet]

What about them

[rapid oracle]

How do they feel compare to skcm browns or orange

[boreal rivet]

brown>orange>black

older pine variants will be better

[boreal heart]

Saudi

[rapid oracle]

Is there a way to identify the variants?

[boreal rivet]

pine has slits on the slider opening while bamboo does not

pine also apparently use the same leafspring as salmons while bamboos use different ones

[sinful pumice]

Do you guys like my keybored

[rapid oracle]

No

[supple gust]

trolling? that is one blurry boi

[supple gust]

💀

that’s rather blunt lmfaooo

[rapid oracle]

Is there a way to determine through model names or produced date?

There isn’t a lot of information on deskthority about pine

[boreal rivet]

you can sometimes determine based on which board you harvested them from

other than that you need to identify with the slits

[rapid oracle]

It’s gonna be a dell at102w

[boreal rivet]

iirc the modern logo dells have bamboos

[sinful pumice]

I shot this on a iPhone 🤮 and we all now iPhones suck

[supple gust]

💀 best cameras in the field you gotta be trolling

I hate Apple but their cameras are not a reason for this lmfao

[rapid oracle]

L

Well can’t really complain when it’s $10

[sinful pumice]

It’s iPhone 10 it’s like 4yes old

[supple gust]

amogus

[boreal rivet]

get some xianyu oranges + a dcs alps keyset and you'll have a sweet keyboard

[rapid oracle]

I can’t really find orange on xianyu

[boreal rivet]

m0115/6 typically go for around 500 rmb

[rapid oracle]

Most of the alps on xy is white alps

[boreal rivet]

there was also someone selling loose blue and oranges iirc

for like 4 rmb per

[rapid oracle]

Yikers

[urban glade]

i tried smk clickies recently and kinda fucked with them lol

[boreal rivet]

ye smk p good

[urban glade]

been using ergo clears this past week, quite like them

got a board with mx blacks coming soon, been ages since i used linears

[boreal rivet]

vints?

[urban glade]

yeah

tuned by gon

dge

[boreal rivet]

nice

havent touched a linear in years lmao

[urban glade]

sprit 62g springs iirc

i still have them in my 3700 but i hardly count that

[rapid oracle]

apparently m0116 have skcm salmon

[urban glade]

it can have both

[boreal rivet]

^

[rapid oracle]

The condition kinda good

[urban glade]

i've had 0116 with both salmon and orange

[boreal rivet]

dt wiki is very useful even if its missing some info

[urban glade]

still unsure of what caps to put on - otd dolch or otd soware

the fuckin Dark Gray Edition text always makes me giggle

[boreal rivet]

so cute lmao

[rapid oracle]

Have anyone heard of WYSE Reynolds+reynolds?

[urban glade]

probably just another OEM that the boards were produced for

i've had wyses with different branding

[rapid oracle]

I can’t really tell what day it was produced, there’s no specifications on the back

[urban glade]

u have to disassemble

[hot tapir]

Anyone know what model this is?

[rapid oracle]

[boreal rivet]

can't remember how to identify vint blacks anymore pepehands

[urban glade]

that layout is almost definitelty vint black

but u cant find out year without disassembly

wyse vints rly arent best

[rapid oracle]

I heard the percentage of them being ass is quite high

[urban glade]

ye

i've not had good ones b4 i think

[rapid oracle]

Yikers, I’ll just massage gun some hyperglides

[boreal rivet]

or you could just use some gat yellows

[urban glade]

vints r only worth it if they're very cheap or they're from somebody who u trust

[boreal rivet]

they're very good once broken in

[urban glade]

i should rebuild the dge with yellows to match the pcb ^_^

lmao get fukd

[rapid oracle]

Also the m0116 doesn’t come with a cable on xy, what is that cable called?

[urban glade]

ADB

u can use S-Video cable

its same

also mx in response to ur deleted msg the browns in my N were about $10 for 100 for me

filco majestouch 2

its not as flashy as some of the other options now, but its a very well built board which i enjoy typing on and i have boards worth a lot more than it lol

[rapid oracle]

I supposed I need another s video to usb converter?

[urban glade]

https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tree/master/converter/adb_usb just need pro micro

[rapid oracle]

S video to vga cable is all I can find

[urban glade]

i just mean the connector is same -_-

[rapid oracle]

Oh oh

[urban glade]

u can just buy s-video cable to get the connector, and then u wire it to a pro micro like it shows in that link

[boreal rivet]

you can also buy a griffin imate

[rapid oracle]

L I can’t find it

[rapid oracle]

Hmm so I need to handwire it and put resistor on it

[urban glade]

u can buy them premade but i think the savings of soldering yourself are well worth it

[rapid oracle]

Okie, also I don’t really get this part, I need to handwire 3 of them and psw don’t need to?

[urban glade]

PSW is for the built in power switch of the M0116

its not necessary

but if u want it u can solder it

[subtle grotto]

guess what switch this is, gateron milky yellows, mx blacks, outemu reds, nk creams or blue lsc's

[rapid oracle]

Is there a video for this cause I’m not really catching up

[urban glade]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=14290.0

[rapid oracle]

God that’s complicated

Any specific avr mcu I need?

[urban glade]

i just used a pro micro

[rapid oracle]

Where is the pd0 on the pro micro though?

[chrome raft]

outemu reds

probably

oh its prbly that ur mic is trash

[rapid oracle]

pd0 is #3 port...?

[urban glade]

ye

AVR port numbering is different to arduino

so it can be a bit confusing

[rapid oracle]

Oh god thank you

So now I just need to connect and solder these ports to a ADB female port and use a s video to s video cable to connect to the keyboard? Am I getting this right?

[supple gust]

milky ylw?

[chrome raft]

maybe

maybe mx blacks

[urban glade]

yeah, thats the best way. i was cheap so i just cut the end of a single s-video cable lol

[rapid oracle]

that might be a better idea

Thank you

[pine fractal]

anyone know where to get good korean/english keycaps or a whole keyboard? i have stickers on mine but i dont like it

[pseudo bolt]

You're welcome, and good luck! Indeed, M13s use TrackPoint version II, which lacks a feature in its firmware (called negative inertia) that TrackPoints III and IV (the current one) have to combat sluggishness.

[subtle grotto]

thanks for the compliment

[subtle grotto]

thanks for the compliment

[subtle grotto]

thanks for the compliment

[spark hatch]

Hm?

[subtle grotto]

its blue lsc's

[spark hatch]

Bruh

[subtle grotto]

blue linear scratchy clacks

LMAO

diy shiz that i made

[spark hatch]

I see

Interesting

[subtle grotto]

yes

outemu blue

then the stem

i sanded off the part that makes contact with the leaf

scuffed af btw

[chrome raft]

bruh

[subtle grotto]

LMAO

thanks for the compliments

LMFAO

[spark hatch]

I'd almost be impressed

[chrome raft]

so basically outemu reds???

with a heavier spring??

[subtle grotto]

scuffed version

[chrome raft]

yes

[subtle grotto]

why not be fully impressed

[spark hatch]

How much of a shear waste of time that is lol

What drove you to even do that in the first place

[subtle grotto]

science

and boredom

[chrome raft]

prbly

[subtle grotto]

since there was no click jack i thought maybe if i sanded off the part of the stem that touches the leaf it would make it linear

and it did

just a very scuffed linear

[chrome raft]

bruh

[subtle grotto]

thank you for all the compliments of thinking its those switches LMAO

[chrome raft]

oh ok

wow social engineering

[glad current]

i am in need of a keyboard nerd for help plz

[spark hatch]

yea

[glad current]

whenever im in game and using "W" for moving, im obviously holding it down to keep walking forward. But whenever im holding it down to walk i notice my guy stutters randomly

so i went into my notepad and just help down w and it goes for like 2 seconds stops and then goes again

is that a bad switch on my keyboard?

[spark hatch]

go in note mad and hold w and see if it studders

or you can use a key tester

[spark hatch]

https://youtu.be/QPGtX1SrTzw

I want to do this now lmao

[pulsar zealot]

I am looking for a mechanical keyboard for under 50€ and that is not to loud, does someone have some suggestions?

[coral ferry]

used electronics stores?

[late pulsar]

Invest in btc wait for your money to double, build a custom

[coral ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/c/LinusTechTips/search?query=mechanical under

Check out this cook YouTuber. his name is Linus

He's made several videos

[pulsar zealot]

I Will check that YouTuber out, i have never heard of him.

[rapid oracle]

What size

[pulsar zealot]

Full size

I now have one but it is to loud

[rapid oracle]

Keychron c2

Also go for browns or reds and also get the hotswap ones

[pulsar zealot]

That one looks great

But a bit over budget, but i can afford it

[rapid oracle]

Different market ig, if you are ok with that price then go for it

[late pulsar]

It's worth the investment to just get something good and customizable

[pulsar zealot]

I now have a keyboard with blues switches but it is to loud, and the quality is pretty shitty

[late pulsar]

And with the keychron for example you can slowly mod it and improve it as you see fit

[pulsar zealot]

The keychron c2 looks great, and its Nice that you can get one without RGB, because i think that is a waste of money

[late pulsar]

But how will you build 90s in Fortnite without it

[pulsar zealot]

This is my current keyboard

But its Just to loud

I can still send this one back

Because i only have it now for a day

[full hull]

https://fantechworld.com/maxfit67/

[full hull]

isn't this one of those EVGA hot swaps?

https://www.amazon.com/MAXFIT67-Mechanical-Swappable-Bluetooth-Off-White/dp/B09PH679QQ/ref=sr_1_1
new best budget keyboard? @ionic briar

100$ south facing

[rapid oracle]

Looks a lot like lk67

[full hull]

Yeah but is the lk67 south facing?

[rapid oracle]

I don’t look into cheap customs

[pulsar zealot]

Its this one https://www.bol.com/be/nl/p/aula-s2016-rgb-mechanisch-gaming-toetsenbord-qwerty-blue-switch/9200000116790975/?bltgh=tKyjx9JD2R6L1GsA4hFBNA.qdLc68p653dzun5WFKxIJg_0_39.45.ProductPageUrl

[full hull]

oh yeah that's dogshit

[pulsar zealot]

I agree

[full hull]

So you just dislike how loud it is? @pulsar zealot

[pulsar zealot]

Yes

You can hear it from the other room

[full hull]

https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/sharkoon-skiller-sgk30-toetsenbord-usb-qwerty-amerikaans-engels-zwart/9300000025296892/
@pulsar zealot

[rapid oracle]

[chrome raft]

yes

[pulsar zealot]

@full hull would this be a good one

[full hull]

Your budget is sub 50 euro

[rapid oracle]

[pulsar zealot]

I can up it a litle, its nog that i dont have the money

[full hull]

https://www.amazon.nl/ROYAL-KLUDGE-Toetsenbord-aansluitbaar-hot-swap-compatibele/dp/B08M3CRLGW/ref=sr_1_3

[rapid oracle]

Keychron is better than those gaming keyboards, they have actually decent factory lubed stabs and is hotswap.

[pulsar zealot]

Not than much

Max 75€

Its mosetly for programming and gaming

[rapid oracle]

You want full size right?

[pulsar zealot]

Yes with numpad

[rapid oracle]

keychron c2, rk100

[rapid oracle]

1800 based

[chrome raft]

wth is that a frl 1800

[chrome raft]

980 Mini

and i don't need F row keys that much

I can just access via layer anyways

but i love the 1800 layout, so 980 mini was the way to go for me

well its a 1800 without a f row

[eternal wraith]

need the name of that mouse mate (sry for pinging lmao)

gorgeous board though

[chrome raft]

Got this on a Buy one Get one Promo, me and my buddy sniped it

Ninjutso Origin One X

[chrome raft]

np, pings are welcome (if relevant )

[eternal wraith]

$80 doesnt seem that bad for something of a similar spec

cringe name though

[rapid oracle]

Ninjusto got another new mouse called katana superlight, worth it too

[chrome raft]

yea i bought it for like, 30 usd

i come from an MM710

so nice upgrade, wireless + lightweight, for the price

that i got it

[eternal wraith]

not bad!

[chrome raft]

[eternal wraith]

meanwhile im stuck with my mf corsair ironclaw wireless cause it's comfy

even though i barely use any of the macros

[chrome raft]

Comfy >>>> will always prevail

[eternal wraith]

trueee

especially during work

[eternal wraith]

fuckin wish they made a type c version though. and lighter. micro-usb can suck a fat one

[chrome raft]

heres me using a logitech mx ergo plus

trackballs are very comfortable

[spark hatch]

Keychron c2 is a very nice board for the price

[vale mist]

ironclaw wireless is terrible

in terms of quality and durability

mine had stopped working in wireless with the dongle twice and not to mention the plastic creaks and the mouse wheel double clicks

been using a mx master ever since and never regretted it just a way better mouse if you don't mind the weight

[eternal wraith]

owned one for 6 months, havent had any issues yet

but good to know, i was looking to upgrade soon anyway

[vale mist]

mx master is good have yet to get any double clicks on mouse buttons on either my 2s or original

people complain about the weight but they're just weak

[eternal wraith]

weight isn't an issue when im doing work

but when gaming, it's a whole another story

[vale mist]

not rly I still game with my mx master

[eternal wraith]

i just prefer a mid-weight mouse tbf

not feather light but not chonky either

[eternal wraith]

how is it anyway?

also this is a good keyboard chat lmao

[vale mist]

it's good only thing that's not very good is the polling but that only matters if you're gaming at a top level

[chrome raft]

what if you use a trackball

[vale mist]

your thumb is strong

[chrome raft]

i cannot use a normal mouse bc my wrist is very very weak

[chrome raft]

i also use a trackball lol

[potent void]

Nice. Which one

[chrome raft]

the same one as urs

[potent void]

O

[chrome raft]

logitech mx ergo plus

[potent void]

Fellow mx ergo user

[chrome raft]

yes

[potent void]

Mine isn’t plus it’s the original

But still they’re identical

[chrome raft]

plus has the 30 degree stand

[potent void]

Yeah that’s the only difference I believe

[chrome raft]

ik

[potent void]

ik2

[supple gust]

I use the same mouse lmao

[potent void]

Whoa another

[spark hatch]

im on the roccat kain 100 lmao

[spark hatch]

hey I actually got a question for you guys, I need want a new keyboard for my laptop, Ive looked at acouple boards but im not sure what would be best. idrc if its low profile or not but size has to be 65%- Compact 75%. hot swap would be nice but ik how to solder and desolder so not priority. and my budget is 100ish but thats flexible, I dont want to get smthn im not happy with 6 months down the road. got any ideas?

[sweet thunder]

Q1 is $150 but it’s a solid option with a mod

[spark hatch]

thats my daily driver, dont really want exploded 75%, my bag isnt very big and I do take it with me a fair bit

[sweet thunder]

I guess you can get one of the k series keychrons

Under $100

Hot swap

[spark hatch]

I was looking at those

[sweet thunder]

I don’t remember which k is the 75

K2?

[spark hatch]

I think so

[spark hatch]

what about tactiles? I like mid to strong mid bump tactiles, I've heard quite abit of good things from akko switches or im open to suggestions

[full hull]

You don't like top bump tactiles?

Like Salmons

[spark hatch]

no not really

[full hull]

Just get JWKs imo

FFFF or something, Durock Tactiles

[spark hatch]

I quite like my kenetic labs penguins but I'd like to try smthn new

[spark hatch]

alr ty

[sweet thunder]

Durock medium tactiles are pretty good

Wait never mind you have penguins

Penguins are medium tactile recolours

[spark hatch]

ah

[spark hatch]

Has anyone ever tried the nuphy air 75?

[unkempt dome]

Nope ... came close to get one for really cheap ... but decided to pass on it cause it's not the keyboard I was looking for ...

You watched some reviews of it ?

[pulsar zealot]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k4-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-version-2?variant=32287332794457 does this keyboard have all the Keys of a full size one?

[ionic briar]

yes

they just cut the spacing between all the keys clusters

so no space between the f row, the numpad and the nav clusters and so on

[spark hatch]

Ah, I have read some reviews, they seem pretty positive i was just wondering if anyone had tried it

[vagrant garnet]

Hey everyone. Thank you for your help. I ended up going with the Logitech G915 TKL (Tactile) and a Microsoft Bluetooth Keypad. I really wanted a full size but couldn't stand the macro keys on the side (too many accidental presses from years of muscle memory). The G915 Tactile seems to be the quietest board I have found that still has a "premium" feel. It's quieter than the generic Dell membrane keyboards I have lying around. I run it plugged in all the time. Unfortunately there is no G815 TKL.

I was able to compare with a Corsair K70 Red and it is notably quieter on the bottom-out sound. The Linear version of the G915 (red equivalent) for some reason seems louder than the Tactile (brown equivalent).

Hope this is helpful for anyone else looking for a quiet keyboard!

[spark hatch]

You like it?

[vagrant garnet]

So far happy with it. Any new board has a learning curve. Only been using it a few hours. So far the noise level is really good.

*Should also mention the Microsoft keypad is also programmable for anyone who wants macro stuff. Nice not having it beside the keyboard. Seems more ergonomic with a TKL setup

• bonus of the wireless keyboard (G915) is that it also works via bluetooth, so I could potentially use it with a tablet, steam deck, console, etc.

I really could care less about the RGB. It's really customizable, but I just set it to static white with modifiers when pressing CTRL/Win/ALT

Was just playing Overwatch with my wife in the room. No complaints about the sound. 🙂

[vale mist]

Good good as long as you like it then that's what matters

[vagrant garnet]

Yea, really nice having dedicated media buttons and a volume wheel. Was a big thing I was looking for.

[rapid oracle]

[vagrant garnet]

Lol. I prefer the feeling of Blue, but you gotta compromise somewhere. Even people on meetings / discord can key by Blue switches.

Linear switches are just meh imo

[spark hatch]

Glad you like it, I did not likey g915

[vale sundial]

MX browns exception
https://c.tenor.com/-VntKaFnr_IAAAAM/preference-glarses.gif

[vagrant garnet]

Good thing its there are lots of options for everyone. Wish it had a bit more resistance but that board doesn't exist.

[spark hatch]

Wdym resistance?

Like durability?

[vagrant garnet]

Actuation force

[spark hatch]

Oh

There's definitely high actuation force switches. They exist

[vagrant garnet]

Want like 100g actuation force, but on a quiet keyboard.

[vale sundial]

Swap springs with 150g springs Ezze

[vagrant garnet]

Again, needs to be a quiet keyboard. The bottom-out sound on most boards is pretty loud

[spark hatch]

Cherry Mx clears have a 100g spring

[vagrant garnet]

I see 55g on a chart I found

[spark hatch]

Not really, if the sound of a normal boards bottom out isn't very loud, if you need it to be dampened you can o ring the switch, and case foam in the case to make the sound more muted

[rapid oracle]

[vale sundial]

Don't think any stock switch comes with >85g springs

[spark hatch]

I could be wrong I just remembered the Mc clear having a very heavy spring

[vagrant garnet]

What I mean is the G915 with Tactile (brown) seems substantially quieter than a silent switch bottoming out. I did some sound tests for O rings and it didn't seem to make a big difference

I think it could be because it's low profile, there's less accelleration or stopping force needed

[spark hatch]

That's just cause it's low profile

[vagrant garnet]

And the brown gives it just that bit of extra resistance

[spark hatch]

But yes a low profile is quiter than most normal swotches

[rapid oracle]

O ring is not really good since they can result in mushy bottom out

[vagrant garnet]

Yea, it seems like a good balance between feeling nice to type on, but not going with a laptop keyboard

I'm also primarily an FPS gamer, so low profile seems ok

It was the right middle-ground between still satisfying typing experience and gaming performance

but again, key goal was minimize noise

Just wasn't ready for a mac keyboard 🙂

[spark hatch]

Eh not in my experience, g915 has very low quality keycaps that get very shiny after abit of use, key chatter is absolutely terrible, stabilizers are trash and unfixable since they're just a rod the clips into the keycap, I didn't like the rubber buttons at the top they felt cheap but that's opinion, and o had issues with the wheel not working after 3 months. Also not to mention it's insane price tag that's completely unjustified for my perspective.

But I'm glad you like it

[vagrant garnet]

I agree it's overpriced, and not a "premium" as it could be. I got it on sale an Amazon. Luckily have 30 days return if I find the same issues

[rapid oracle]

Time for another hhkb

[spark hatch]

What baord is that?

[rapid oracle]

Hhkb pro 2

[spark hatch]

How much is it?

[rapid oracle]

Not mine but I'm planning to buy another one

[spark hatch]

Ah

[rapid oracle]

$100, retail is way more and oos everywhere

[spark hatch]

I see

[unkempt dome]

there's à short circuit about it and another review I watched

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KULe3WQZvjA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aTuoxBiFGfA

[unkempt dome]

Then get silent switches

[boreal rivet]

topre

and silence it

[vagrant garnet]

The switch sound isn't the problem. It's the key bottoming out that is loud

[boreal rivet]

get topre and then silence it

[unkempt dome]

Topre or silent switches

[high ocean]

Rubber washers

[unkempt dome]

o-ring a usually meh ... and it doesn't dampen the upstroke

[spark hatch]

Yea I did see those overall pretty positive

[vagrant garnet]

Still pretty loud. My goal was quiet. :)

[unkempt dome]

I told you to get silent switches ... those video were not meant for your too loud problem

Silent switches
Foam dampers in the board
Tape mod the pcb
Lube, wire balance and bandaid mod the stabs
Lube and film the switches if silent switches are still not enough

If that's not quiet enough then get a flexible all rubber keyboard...

If you don't know what silent switches are then read about them

[rapid oracle]

Tape and foam mod should not be using together, their purpose is different and could result in canceling each other out

[unkempt dome]

it's whichever he wants that make the keyboard quiet enough for him

Also you're saying that with both it will be as loud as stock ?

[spark hatch]

I mean they already bought a g915 now so

[rapid oracle]

Tape won’t make keyboard quite

[unkempt dome]

Will dampen it a bit

Or change the sound profile enough for it to appear more quiet

[rapid oracle]

That’s foam’s job, also fix the hollowness if there’s any

[unkempt dome]

I don't care about sound and what mods does ... I was just telling to try stuff

Sound is the least of my concern about keyboard

[rapid oracle]

Also you missed out a point that he’s using g915, which is not hotswap

And taking apart the keyboard to tape it will definitely void the warranty

[unkempt dome]

Well that was not the board to get if silence is the main goal

Should sell the board and get something else

Or just accept to live with the sound

[rapid oracle]

tell the man, not me

[unkempt dome]

I'm telling here so he will be able to read it

Was not addressed at you directly

Sorry if it felt like it

[rapid oracle]

[vagrant garnet]

Honestly the sound of the swithces (aside from Blue) aren't really an issue. It's the bottoming out sound that I can't seem to resolve unless going with a low profile keyboard.

[unkempt dome]

it's not about low profile keyboard

it will be the same thing

[vagrant garnet]

I can return for next 30 days. I am not prepared to spend 10 hours making a loud keyboard quiet. Appreciate the suggestions tho.

[unkempt dome]

only silent switches will solve that

[vagrant garnet]

From what testing I have done myself, silent switches are not the answer

Silent switch keyboards are still loud

[unkempt dome]

well low profile keyboard are not either

also which silent switches have you tried

[vagrant garnet]

Cherry silent. The actuation sounds are not the problem. It's the keys bottoming out that's loud

[unkempt dome]

then try other silent switches

cause they are made to dampen the bottoming out sound

[vagrant garnet]

I tried a few in the store, and did some watching of review videos to compare. Still the G915 with browns was the quietest I could find without going with something like an apple keyboard

at least nothing "out of the box"

[unkempt dome]

browns are not silent switches

[vagrant garnet]

Again, the sound of the switch is not really the issue, as long as you don't use a Blue

The "click" if you will is not that loud

The "Clack" of it bottoming out is the issue

[unkempt dome]

the clack of the bottoming out comes from the switch tho

unless the keycap hit the switch before the stem bottom out ... then you have interference problem

also bare any store have silent switches in stock except for cherry silent red

[vagrant garnet]

They keycaps seem to be hitting the board itself

They had gateron too

[unkempt dome]

then change the keycap

it's not supposed to touch the plate

[vagrant garnet]

Can you send me a recording of what it actually sounds like with what you are suggesting?

[unkempt dome]

the only thing that is supposed to bottom out is the stem in the switch

[vagrant garnet]

Hrmm seems you are right. Either way, the entire board has to be taken into consideration

[unkempt dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOW18xnbvBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq3q3Zn7A7o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBv_3KIbHfA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlCzcJNq9co

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmvB7FOgyxk

last one is hhkb silent

which is top tier according to some ... too poor to get that myself

watch all those video

[vagrant garnet]

I went to this video at 8 mins for the typing test. Still seems louder than the G915

[unkempt dome]

it's the microphone positioning ...

or the room

or the setup of the keyboard

[vagrant garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjO_gAFupBo&t=153s

[unkempt dome]

sound test are never accurate

[vagrant garnet]

Go to around 2:30

You will see what I mean

The staff at Canada Computers who were big mechanical keyboard nerds were pretty shocked when they tried too

[unkempt dome]

my brown kailh silent box brown are more silent than that

[vagrant garnet]

*maybe I hit keys pretty hard when I type

[ivory ingot]

https://youtu.be/TjA7Oap5XKo

[unkempt dome]

and I would say that my cherry brown with oring in the durgod fusion are more silent than that

[spark hatch]

damn you are are still going on abou this? now I hate the g915 as much as the next guy heck I even owned one, it was terrible. but if uberman is happy with it let him be

[unkempt dome]

most gaming brand keyboard are really bad value ...

[vagrant garnet]

Haha. I don't "love" it, but I truly haven't find anything that is quieter out of the box in a "real world" test

[spark hatch]

yea ik

[unkempt dome]

just get a membrane

[vagrant garnet]

That has as close to a regular keyboard feel that is

[unkempt dome]

I mean rubber dome over membrane

[spark hatch]

never said they were good value

[vagrant garnet]

This is quieter than membrane in my testing

shockinly

[unkempt dome]

I know ... it's just my opinion

[spark hatch]

I agree with you

[vagrant garnet]

Membrane was the first place I looked

[spark hatch]

I was just saying if theyre happy dont fight it

[vagrant garnet]

The keyboard build into my laptop is quieter, but not very nice to actually use compared to a proper external keyboard

[unkempt dome]

well then if it's still not quiet enough just get a flexible rubber keyboard

cause there's nothing as quiet as that

[vagrant garnet]

haha, I guess this is "quiet enough" for my purpose

and I agree the "value" is trash

it's overpriced for sure

[unkempt dome]

or get a scissor keyboard

some cheap one from amazon

[spark hatch]

https://youtu.be/04qmmhnD1O4?t=110

[unkempt dome]

like the hp ultra slim

[spark hatch]

thats a very quite board if you were looking at getting smthn differn

t

[vagrant garnet]

That does actually sound pretty quiet

[unkempt dome]

I'm pretty sur it's still louder than the g915

cause it's about the same as what I've posted before

[vagrant garnet]

Again, mic setup for youtube reviews is tough

[spark hatch]

maybe but its not gonna be a disturbance, its very quite

[spark hatch]

ah

[unkempt dome]

I know ...

kailh box white are quiet enough for me so ...

anyway I have to go now ...

[vagrant garnet]

good chat, appreciate you trying to help

More opinions/options = better results

[spark hatch]

If you were to do that build im sure it would be quite enough but if your happy with the g915 then you're probably fine

[quick pulsar]

Ok so I recently found out my keyboard has romer g switch’s and I want to know if this keyboard would be a good replacement

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k4-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-version-2?variant=32287344427097

[spark hatch]

dont have it perosnally but heard good things

i'd google some reviews on it see what other people think

but I've heard good things about it

[quick pulsar]

Yeah my keyboard switch's are dying

[spark hatch]

yikes, yea thats a nice board if you like compact full size or the keychron c2 is quite nice

[unkempt dome]

romer a usually qualified as awful switches ... so yeah that would probably be a nice upgrade

[boreal rivet]

FYI typing tests of mx silents make them seem loud because the youtubers turn up the gain or else there's really nothing much to record

[quick pulsar]

What switch’s should I go with. I like linear

It has browns reds and blues

[quick pulsar]

but ive never tried any other switch's

[spark hatch]

Reds are the only linear option

Browns are a light tactile

And blues are clickys

[quick pulsar]

i just like my current romer g's

and i want something that fell similar or if you think something's better

[spark hatch]

I've never used a Romer so I'm not sure what they compare to

[quick pulsar]

but I'd like it to be quiet

[spark hatch]

Is it a smooth motion or is there a bump as you press it?

[quick pulsar]

there's a slight bump at the start then nothing

[spark hatch]

If you want silent you need third party switches but if you just don't Want it to be loud youd be fine with browns or reds

[spark hatch]

A tactile would be closest to that then

So I'd get the browns

[quick pulsar]

ok thanks

[spark hatch]

Np glad to help

[chrome raft]

pog new keyboard

old vs new

ignore dirtiness on the old..

now just gotta cable manage...

[quasi otter]

whats in the keyboard?

[chrome raft]

Keychron c1

hot swappable

oh in the keyboard

thought u said wat is keyboard

[quasi otter]

what switches?

[chrome raft]

red I think

[grizzled quiver]

Who pays 20 dollars for shipping

[chrome raft]

me ig

[grizzled quiver]

You know what I shouldnt be talking

I bought Blackshark V2 Pros

[rapid oracle]

Trash razer keyboard

[spark hatch]

what board

oh Im blind its c1

sorry for ping

[chrome raft]

all g

u actually recomended the keyboard to me lol

[spark hatch]

oh thats handy, sorry I help alot of people I dont remember everyone

[chrome raft]

all g

[spark hatch]

oh yea i remember your pfp now

you like it?

[chrome raft]

yee

ngl idk about the space bar tho

feels a tiny off

idk if its just a new keyboard i need to get used to or wat

[rapid oracle]

Did you lube the stabs

[chrome raft]

no

[rapid oracle]

Well there’s you go

[chrome raft]

not gonna tho

[rapid oracle]

Why?

[chrome raft]

1. lazy
2. lazy

[rapid oracle]

Fair enough

[chrome raft]

lmao

[subtle grotto]

i mean lubing stabs takes no more than like 4 minutes lmao

[chrome raft]

also dont got lube

[subtle grotto]

dielectric grease?

[rapid oracle]

Buy one, they are cheap

[subtle grotto]

or silicone grease

[rapid oracle]

That’s for wire

Get 205g0 or 3204 for stab housing

[chrome raft]

its prob fine just need to get used to it but thx for tips

[subtle grotto]

fricking heck this hecking tes68 amazing bro

has a smokey black case

[spark hatch]

they're prelubed I think

[subtle grotto]

so seeing the foam is kinda ruining the aesthetics of the board so im probably doing a silicone pour on this thing

[rapid oracle]

Keychron prelude is ok, not good enough imo

Always better to lube it yourself

[spark hatch]

no its not a good prelub but its there

better than dry

[subtle grotto]

^ agree

[spark hatch]

tbh tho I dont think any prelube is very good, or theres very select companies that can do it

[spark hatch]

how so? the feel or sound

[chrome raft]

sound

[spark hatch]

the space bar on the c1/2 isnt very satisfying ik that

[chrome raft]

ye

[spark hatch]

you can make it better with tape and foam if you wanted

[chrome raft]

eh

[chrome raft]

.

i dont need perfect keyboard

[spark hatch]

ah

[chrome raft]

(no offense) but im not like yall with the sound and feel

[spark hatch]

thats understandable

[subtle grotto]

although, getting finger prints on the pcb bugs things out and makes it type random letters. if you're like me and your hand/finger is a finger print machine then you gotta make sure to wipe down the pcb before reassembling it or else you're going to get random things inputted

idk just sharing my experience with this tes 68 so far

[spark hatch]

ive never heard of finger oil setting off keystrokes

[subtle grotto]

idek too

the traces

on the pcb

for some reason

idk how to explain

but yea

[spark hatch]

if you did want this is an alr guid, its c2 but its the same process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvOwDAwuGNo&t=128s

[chrome raft]

Uncovered traces and moisture making it bug out maybe

Finger moisture go brr

[spark hatch]

yea

[subtle grotto]

yea

i probably have to wear gloves when workign on this thing lmao

[chrome raft]

Could coat the thing in clear nail polish or clear paint

[subtle grotto]

are u sure lmao

[spark hatch]

,,, I mean in most cases you're only in there once I'd leave it stock

[chrome raft]

Yea that would keep it from shorting or whatnot

That’s what you do around a gpu when you lm it iirc

Keeps the conductive stuff away from the traces

[subtle grotto]

not really

i usually do take it out like a few times

if i ever want to change anything out

[subtle grotto]

ohh i see

on top or the bottom?

of the pcb

[chrome raft]

Wherever you think it’s shorting I have no responsibility if it breaks though

[subtle grotto]

i meann i do have two of these lmao

[chrome raft]

Nice

[spark hatch]

fair enough

I usually leave them closed once im down with them

[chrome raft]

I’d do bottom maybe?

[subtle grotto]

i think theres some uncovered traces on top too

no i dont think, i see some uncovered traces on top too

[subtle grotto]

the stock stabilizers of the tester 68 with their plate mount stabilizers are kinda amazing, they have relatively tighter tolerances for the wire to rattle around, but i'm not saying it doesnt rattle but the stabilizer stem is relatively tighter than other stabilizers that i've worked on

• the stabilizer housing has 0 wobble on the plate

so far so good on the tester 68

[finite valve]

I have the rk68 keyboard with the brown switches. does anyone have any recommendations for switches that I could upgrade to?

[spark hatch]

you like tactile

s

[subtle grotto]

do you prefer tactile or linear

[finite valve]

sorry I'm new to keyboards, whats the difference?

[finite valve]

I've never tried linear switches but i do like tactile ones

I probably won't like clicky since I prefer it to be quiet

[subtle grotto]

whats your budget for switches?

[finite valve]

probably under 100 i guess

[full hull]

Ajazz Diced Fruit Kiwi

get like 2 boxes

that's like idk maybe 60$ or something

[finite valve]

are those compatible with my keyboard?

[full hull]

yes they're standard MX 5 pin switches

will fit in the RK68 hot swap

[spark hatch]

do you want a strong tactile bump

[full hull]

It's a bit heavier bump btw compare to say browns as in way more noticeable @finite valve

if you want lighter version there is Ajazz Diced Fruit Banana

[finite valve]

I am probably fine with either linear or tactical as long as it's not clicky

[finite valve]

https://www.amazon.ca/EPOMAKER-Pieces-Mechanical-Keyboard-Replacement/dp/B09JBM4MVN/ref=sr_1_10?crid=3NVXMH1H9JGSG&keywords=Ajazz%2BDiced%2BFruit%2BKiwi&qid=1646464229&sprefix=ajazz%2Bdiced%2Bfruit%2Bkiwi%2Caps%2C55&sr=8-10&th=1 is it this one? you said it was 60 this is quite a bit cheaper

[full hull]

You need 2 boxes, and choose between Kiwi and Banana, Banana is lighter than the Kiwi

so like yeah 46$ total

if you want linears peach are also pretty good

[finite valve]

I'm guessing if you want a faster WPM tactile is better than linear?

[subtle grotto]

but budget linear gat yellows or gat milky yellows

[spark hatch]

well for tactile theres differnt kinds, theres mid bump top bump strong light mid

[subtle grotto]

depends actually

[finite valve]

my wpm is currently 120 and i'd like it to improve more

[full hull]

Ajazz diced fruit are basically the same price as milky yellows

[spark hatch]

its all preference

[full hull]

40~ cad for 90 pieces

[subtle grotto]

since tactiles have bumps u get more response but in my opinion ill go for linear since its less tiring

imo

[full hull]

They like browns so imo go Diced Fruit Banana

[finite valve]

so for gaming would you say linear is better?

[full hull]

it's still preference ofc

[subtle grotto]

any would be good for gaming

[finite valve]

ive only had these switches and theyre tactile (i think since they're browns) but i dont feel much bump

[subtle grotto]

but sure linear can be better

all preference

[subtle grotto]

yes, browns dont have much of that "bump"

[spark hatch]

I like clickies for gaming and mid-strong tactiles typing

[finite valve]

i cannot deal with clickies the sound would drive me insane lol

[spark hatch]

I actaully like clickies but most people hate

[subtle grotto]

enjoyed clickies for 2 weeks

but the reason is because it was mx blues

[finite valve]

so according to this chart, linear switches are "consistent" what does that mean?

[subtle grotto]

but those box clickies

oh my my those crisp clicks

[spark hatch]

mx bluees are terrible

[spark hatch]

eh, sherbets are my fav atm

[subtle grotto]

basically all keys have a more "consistent" feel

[subtle grotto]

oh havent tried sherbets

[subtle grotto]

oh wait are those the nk sherbets

[spark hatch]

yea

I really wanna try https://zealpc.net/collections/all/products/clickiez?variant=39379354026048

[spark hatch]

its a smooth motion from top to bottom

[subtle grotto]

i really want to try them out too

[finite valve]

i guess ill switch to linear then, so go for either gateron yellows or ajazz diced fruit?

[spark hatch]

I just dk about thet price

but if I do want them now is the best time, on sale and you can get discound codes

[subtle grotto]

yea a dollar and 35 cents per switch, damn

[subtle grotto]

yup, havent tried ajazz diced fruit yet

but yup u can go linear

gat yellows still have a special place in my heart

[finite valve]

whats thee difference between gat milky yellows and gat yellows

[full hull]

Go diced peach imo

not really worth going Gaterons nowadays when you can get switches that are better stock

unless you can get them at half the price

which looking at amazon you really can't

it's almost 1:1 pricing

[subtle grotto]

gat milky yellows have a clackier sound

clacky is basically a higher pitch sound

[finite valve]

i see gateron milky yellows 33 CAD for 70 switches, and I see diced peach 24 bucks 45 switches

[subtle grotto]

oh wow thats a pretty big difference

[finite valve]

https://www.amazon.ca/Gateron-Switches-，Mechanical-Keyboard-Mechanical/dp/B09JSM1911/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=gateron+milky+yellow+switches&qid=1646465059&sprefix=gateron+m%2Caps%2C82&sr=8-5

https://www.amazon.ca/EPOMAKER-Pieces-Mechanical-Keyboard-Replacement/dp/B09BB2WDDL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1YOP3H1AMSG2P&keywords=diced+peach+switches&qid=1646465091&sprefix=diced+peach+switche%2Caps%2C55&sr=8-1

[full hull]

that's like a .06 difference

[finite valve]

then i just wanna pick the one that sounds better

my keyboard has 68 keys

[spark hatch]

in my experince tactiles sound better but linears can defintally sound nice too

[subtle grotto]

idk imo tactiles sound scratchier

but again all preference

[full hull]

ajazz peaches will sound better stock

[finite valve]

yeah im probably gonna keep them stock since i'm not experienced but might mess with them later down the line

[subtle grotto]

i should give the ajazz peaches a shot

[subtle grotto]

you can get them in epo makers website for a bit cheaper

https://epomaker.com/products/epomaker-ajazz-diced-fruit-switch

idk for the shipping cost tho

[spark hatch]

not at all for me, if they're lubed they dont sound scratchy

[full hull]

I don't think this is the canadian one so you have to convert to CAD

[finite valve]

yeah that's USD

[full hull]

it's like 1:1.3 rn

[subtle grotto]

oh my bad

[finite valve]

i think in terms of price the yellows are a bit cheaper, since i only have to buy them once

[subtle grotto]

didnt see the .ca at the end of the link for amazon

[subtle grotto]

well just .06 cents

[finite valve]

im only going to use 68 though

[subtle grotto]

idk ur choice

[finite valve]

so its 46 for peach and 33 for gat yellows

but if peach is better ill take that

[subtle grotto]

cant give my opinion on the peaches since i havent tried them out

[full hull]

I've tried both and Peach are deffo better

[finite valve]

okay i think im going to get the peaches then

[finite valve]

Just to confirm, the peaches will fit my keyboard right?

[unkempt dome]

Totally not related

[finite valve]

yeah i figured, i just ordered the linear switches to see how i'll like them

[full hull]

That's the RK hot swap right? Then yes they will fit

[finite valve]

ye its rk68, i tested it out and i can pull out the switches

they will arrive tomorrow 😄 thank you so much!

[subtle grotto]

gosh dang it so close to my goal of 100 wpm lmao

[spark hatch]

damn

[subtle grotto]

i was like stuck at 80-85 wpm when i didnt use my thumb for space

this is awesome

now that i use it as space got relatively faster

[spark hatch]

you didnt use you rthumb to.... wtf

how did you type

[subtle grotto]

yea...

using my pointing finger

for space

[spark hatch]

that is so in effieant

[subtle grotto]

and i also only used my pointing and middle finger for typing before

for both hands lmao

now that i use more of my fingers and thumb as space gotten faster

[spark hatch]

damn

[subtle grotto]

although i cant seem to coordinate my pinkies too well lol

[spark hatch]

I just use the standard touhc type

[subtle grotto]

p, z and q seems so far away for some reason

for my pinkies

[spark hatch]

altho I used to have a hybrid tihng, my left touch typed and my right was a chop stick

[subtle grotto]

wdym standard touch type

[spark hatch]

I struggled with y and p'

[subtle grotto]

corrected mine sorry

i just cant seem to move my pinky where i want it to go

ive tried multiple times lmao

[spark hatch]

ah

youll get use to it

[subtle grotto]

kinda inconsistent but atleast its trending upward

the sudden dip here is when i tried using more fingers and the thumb as space

[spark hatch]

ah

my graph prolly looks really bad cause my friends use my pc some times

[subtle grotto]

i actually made a new account

[spark hatch]

ah

[subtle grotto]

this was my old account

the sudden dip here is when i tried using more fingers and the thumb as space

same

[spark hatch]

thats pretty good

[subtle grotto]

explanation

[spark hatch]

ah

[subtle grotto]

but i was stuck at around 80 wpm

old acc ^

[spark hatch]

ah

I mean thats not terrible

Im still learnign tough so better than my curren

t

[subtle grotto]

whats ur avg wpm?

[spark hatch]

60 rn

I just started touch typing 2 months ago

[subtle grotto]

nice nice

[spark hatch]

yea

[full hull]

https://www.amazon.com/MAXFIT67-Mechanical-Swappable-Bluetooth-Off-White/dp/B09PH679QQ/ref=sr_1_1
you guys see this yet?

100$ south facing prebuilt

Poggers

[subtle grotto]

dang

DAMNNN

DYE SUB PBT STOCK KEYCAPS TOO?

• A KNOB?

WOW

and theres plate foam

AND case foam

gosh dang

insane

[rapid oracle]

topre so good

Need another one

[full hull]

Yeah been thinking of getting it @subtle grotto

[rapid oracle]

I would just get durgod or leopold at that price point, the build quality of leopold is one of the best in prebuilt

[full hull]

But why would I get a leopold when I can just get something way way easier to mod?

And I don't think Leopolds will be a good stock experience since they only come with MX Cherry

[rapid oracle]

build quality

[full hull]

Unless you go for like their Toper versions at more than double the price

[rapid oracle]

Just go for browns, they are good, idk if they have black though

[full hull]

Cherry MX Browns are bad though

[rapid oracle]

They are not

[full hull]

And the build quality of Leopold is just like not bad

it's not good by any means

I don't really see anything about them that stands out

[rapid oracle]

It's the best in prebuilt, the keycaps quality is as good as gmk

[full hull]

other than not being made by Razer

[rapid oracle]

I've tested it

[full hull]

Aren't GMKs like just 30$ anyways

[rapid oracle]

They are $130

Well most of them are around that price

[full hull]

maybe if you buy from the second hand market

most are like reasonably priced

just like wait

[rapid oracle]

wat

$130 is retail

aftermarket price is way more than that

Do you really know about keyboards

[full hull]

You're literally saying that MX Browns are good

Like the linear tactiles

[rapid oracle]

Yes, and I'm tired of seeing people saying it's not

Normal browns are good, hyperglide browns even better

[full hull]

Like FC750R keycaps are 1.5mm thick iirc

I don't really think that's that special

[rapid oracle]

build quality

[full hull]

What's so special about the build quality?

[rapid oracle]

It's so funny seeing newcomers saying mx browns are bad, watching glares won't make you a enthusiast

[rapid oracle]

Nothing special, just good

Very good

[full hull]

I'm looking at internals pictures and it just looks similar to other high quality China OEM keyboards

[rapid oracle]

Looking at pictures to determine build quality

[full hull]

Soldering quality looks the same

Maybe in the american market it's good but like good build quality keyboards are like a dime a dozen at this point

[ionic briar]

i think that quality of cherry profile caps on a prebuilt is pretty rare ngl

[rapid oracle]

Whatever you believe man

[full hull]

I mean yeah but like idk why you'd get a prebuilt for the keycaps

arguably the easiest part of a keyboard to just change

[rapid oracle]

Exactly, their build quality is astonishing, especially when compared to gmk

[rapid oracle]

That quality of keycaps only exist on epbt or gmk, which cost $70 and $130

[ionic briar]

but then its added cost
even if you buy a prebuilt with no intention of swapping anything, isnt higher quality stock parts be more desirable for better longevity?

[full hull]

I was comparing it to say a maxfit67

You will be changing alot of the parts out

I just don't see how a FC750R is in any ways worth it over keyboards like that

[rapid oracle]

Let’s say you’re swapping out everything

$50 for switches, $10 for stabs, $10 for lubes, and $70 for keycaps

How much is the maxfit67 now with all of the stuff added?

Even with all these stuff added, still can’t beat Leopold’s board build quality

[full hull]

the maxfit accepts a gasket mount better though

[rapid oracle]

Gasket mount doesn’t mean good

Gmmk pro for example, it’s gasket mount, but trash

[full hull]

Yeah it can be like the pewdipie keyboard where it's just not built for it

but the maxfit is

[rapid oracle]

And how do you know it?

[full hull]

Because all of my friends have it

It's a very popular keyboard in SEA

because it's literally built of suggestions from discord people

in local keyboard communities

[rapid oracle]

LOL

[full hull]

This isn't just a cash grab keyboard

[full hull]

Look the people in MKW PH say it's amazing and the next coming of Jesus Christ

I trust(to a degree) them more than randoms on the internet

[rapid oracle]

Also where does it say it’s gasket mount? The indication photo looks nothing like gasket mount

It looks like try mount with double clip board

[full hull]

You put one in yourself

[rapid oracle]

That’s not how it works

[ionic briar]

so like its design for gasket mount and then you put in the gasket yourself?

[full hull]

That's what I'm hearing

Needs alterations still ofc

[rapid oracle]

New definition of gasket mount LOL

[full hull]

I didn't say that it's a gasket mount though

I said that it accepts a gasket mount

not all keyboards can be modded to a gasket mount

[rapid oracle]

You can’t just change a keyboard from tray mount to gasket mount especially when it’s not designed for it

And do you know how gasket mount works?

[full hull]

Because I have friends that did it

And they say that it worked

[rapid oracle]

Do they know what’s gasket mount though

[full hull]

I have no reason to believe that they're lying to me

[rapid oracle]

They’re probably not lying, just clueless

[full hull]

The main problem that I know is that the case foam is basically inconsequential and needs replacement

good thing foam is like 1$

.25 cents if you're ok with lower quality foam

[rapid oracle]

Just get a leopold and call it a day. No reason for all these hassles for a low quality board

[ionic briar]

thats the fun part tho
i see ad0's mindset in buying this
its not about the board itself, its about the fun in tinkering it

[full hull]

Yeah but the maxfit67 is 80$ here

[ionic briar]

kinda like building your project car

[full hull]

and since we live in a 3rd world country you can get everything to mod it for like 5$

because materials are just so cheap

[rapid oracle]

Good thing is that leopold is solder, now go learn solder and be a real keyboard builder

[ionic briar]

yea
tho ngl, a decent soldering iron could cost a lil more than having a hotswap socket and just tune the other stuff

pretty sure hakko 936 are pretty cheap in the sea region

still, thats 30 usd added to the cost

[rapid oracle]

I’ve been using my $5 ones for years, nothing happened, still alive

[full hull]

30$ is like worth more than people's switches tbh

that's like I think an entire's week salaray

[rapid oracle]

$30 a week

Jeez

[full hull]

You have a 6 day work week though

so could be worse

Tbh I think Fantech just stole the design of the Ikki68 aurora from their OEM @ionic briar not really unexpected behavior from them

since they have way better relationships with OEMs than like most companies which leads to stuff like XD5 vs Origin One X

or the XD3 vs Ultra Custom

[long obsidian]

doubt fantech has their own design for most of their products

I always see their products in ali or some chinese sites like literally the same

[full hull]

they used to have that reputation yes

[rapid oracle]

No reason to look at these gaming brands anyway

[long obsidian]

but, gaeming

[full hull]

Fantech is trying to shift away from the cheap gaming scene now though, hired a bunch of people locally in SEA

Trying to become like Rakk probably but for the entirety of SEA instead of just PH

[rapid oracle]

Become another cheap gaming company, I see

[full hull]

Rakk was the first to come out with this design after all

I think that was maybe 3-4 years ago

I think I was still in high school actually

so like just because it's a cheapo gaming brand doesn't mean they can't turn their company around

Wait actually I think rakk was selling a 40$ south facing prebuilt with gateron blues

Yeah this thing

[unkempt dome]

is it available without the knob ... ?

[full hull]

no

though you can just take it off I think

but it won

't look as good

FL·ESPORTS FL680
should be for you then @unkempt dome

more expensive however

[unkempt dome]

really looks like akko 3068b ...

thanx I'll look into it

[full hull]

It's much better @unkempt dome

CIS people love it apparently @unkempt dome

[unkempt dome]

in which way ?

[full hull]

Well it's not made by Akko so QC is pretty great

The stock gasket mount implementation is also pretty good

but iirc it's like 130$ so not something that's quite common in my own country's community

[unkempt dome]

oh didn't see it was gasket mount ...

sad

[rapid oracle]

They do be adding gasket mount in everything

[unkempt dome]

well I'll keep that one tab open ...

looks interesting enough

[ionic briar]

personally i dont like my board to feel squishy
that said, i havent tried ant gasket mounted board so who knows

[rapid oracle]

The problem is that board is not gasket mount lol

[unkempt dome]

well the description is wrong then ... cause it's saying gasket mount

[rapid oracle]

Which board are you talking about?

[unkempt dome]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002766739501.html

or they just talking about the sound dampening that I mistake for gasket mount ...

yeah that must be that

[rapid oracle]

I don’t see gasket mount in the description

And doesn’t look like one too

[full hull]

https://shopee.ph/FL·ESPORTS-FL680-Mechanical-Keyboard-with-silicone-gasket-Three-Mode-68-Key-RGB-Hot-Swappable-2.4G-Wireless-Bluetooth-Wired-Win-Mac-iPad-i.483210022.9081377927

[ionic briar]

this is tray mount
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhcC_MYqtMg

they only use sound dampening silicone

[rapid oracle]

Yeah that’s tray mount bruv, you can see where the screw goes in

[full hull]

Why do CIS people like it so much then it's like more expensive than a Q1

it's probably just like 80$ or something in CIS

[rapid oracle]

Idk probably cause they know jack shit about keyboard

[ionic briar]

110 usd for me

[unkempt dome]

127 cad for me

way less than the Q2 I wanted in the first place

[rapid oracle]

Q2 is great, sounds and feel wonderful

Worth the money

[unkempt dome]

I don't have 280 $ to spend on a keyboard

[rapid oracle]

Leopold is great too

[unkempt dome]

do they have hotswap ?

[rapid oracle]

Nope

[unkempt dome]

not for me then

[rapid oracle]

Keychron k series then

Or just get kbd67 lite

[unkempt dome]

I'll just get the akko

[rapid oracle]

That works too

[unkempt dome]

unless the kbd67 is waaaayyyy better ...

then I'll check if that 120$ turns into 250$ once arrived here

[rapid oracle]

Kbd67 lite is the gateway for custom, like minimum

I’ve built one for a client and have to say it’s pretty good

[unkempt dome]

what does it do better than the akko 3068b multi mode or the fl680 ?