peripherals

[steady hatch]

aliexpress is where i got mine

[ionic briar]

sounds like you accidentally engage a layout on your keyboard

[tall karma]

if you can devote the time hand lubing is MUCH better for anything but springs
you can be more consistent and your switches dont end up completely coated in lube

[boreal rivet]

only true for grease

although who in their right mind would think bag lubing with grease would work out

[chrome raft]

samsung smart keyboard trio 500 vs logitech k380, I can't decide which I like, I'll be using either with my Phone, tab s7+ for like study work while on the train, and the odd time at night at work when it's quiet

[chrome raft]

im pretty sure this channel is for mechanical keyboards

watch taeha types's video on lubing switches

[north jacinth]

new keycaps come tomorrow

ifk comfy

[dire mist]

Hoping for something decent

Please don't be tactile clickies

[bleak finch]

is mk 61 better than gk 61 i want the less lateency one

[ionic briar]

well both will have the same latency ngl

so choose one that you like the most

[eternal wraith]

as opposed to linear clickies?

actually that would be hell

[ionic briar]

is there a mechanism that generate the click but without the tactility?

[bleak finch]

Wht abt rk 61

Is it same

[ionic briar]

the same story

[north jacinth]

we dont like royal kludge here

[bleak finch]

Then why do they have diff names

[dire mist]

is there really anything that can affect the latency of a keyboard besides polling rate?

[eternal wraith]

rk is fine but its not a fantastic option

[north jacinth]

cables i guess?

[eternal wraith]

connection method plus quality of the components

[bleak finch]

I need a good budget keyboard mechanical for fps games

Any recommendations

[eternal wraith]

pcb, chips, cable etc

[north jacinth]

size?

[eternal wraith]

size ehhhh

[north jacinth]

no i was asking aqua

[dire mist]

personally i like the glorious gmmk

[ionic briar]

kinda but not really
like the shape and form factor is the same
but the rk61 is soldered, the gk61 has many version (optical and hotswap switches)
and then the mk61 is just optical

[eternal wraith]

gk61 is also a kit but don't get it

[north jacinth]

i used to have a hotswap rk61

[ionic briar]

rk61 hotswap is like the thing that rk sell whenever they feel like selling it or smt

[north jacinth]

nah i put rose reds in it

[dire mist]

are trash pandas any good

i heard they had some quality issues at one point but idk about the more recent ones

[eternal wraith]

im surprised theyre still being made

[dire mist]

on clearance on novelkeys

along with midnight jades

[eternal wraith]

ehhh

i probably wouldnt get trash pandas unless u were making holy pandas ig

my thoughts tho

[dire mist]

im probably gonna get kalih dark yellows

my friend had them and i really liked them

[north jacinth]

theyre kinda heavy

but they do feel great

[eternal wraith]

how heavy?

[dire mist]

70g operating

[north jacinth]

70g

[eternal wraith]

operating jfc

and here i was thinking 70g bottom out was more than enough

[dire mist]

i like my swtiches heavy

i might go a little lighter but idk yet

[north jacinth]

bottom out is 80 i think so yeah

[dire mist]

i just want some linears soon

hoping there are linears in the mystery box

[north jacinth]

its funny i game with tactiles and type with linears

black ink v2s if youre interested

[dire mist]

i kind of like to type with tactiles but i want linears for gaming

[north jacinth]

and anubis

i like anubis switches better than u4ts personally

[eternal wraith]

even as a clack guy i think black inks sound great

so imma get those later

[north jacinth]

sorry

silent black inks

[eternal wraith]

oop

[north jacinth]

need to type when on the phone

which is a lot

[dire mist]

also are amazon keycaps usually decent

i hate the stock gmmk keycaps

[north jacinth]

mmmmmmmnah

[eternal wraith]

just buy off of aliexpress or taobao

[north jacinth]

focus on M

[dire mist]

i dont need amazing i just need normal looking

[north jacinth]

it was literally printed upside down

[dire mist]

the gmmk has weird breaks in characters and stuff

[north jacinth]

yeah

uh i guess

like coral sea you can get on amazon

theyre nice

[dire mist]

i just dont want to group order and wait two years for keycaps

[north jacinth]

yeah

did you want pbt or abs

[boreal rivet]

gmk are lucky they have a whole community of copers waiting in line

[north jacinth]

i bought an infinikey set on ebay for 230 euros

[dire mist]

my friend ordered $120 gmk keycaps and has been waiting two years and the expected delivery is still q2 2022

[north jacinth]

ugh

[dire mist]

because the batch was rejected by quality control

[north jacinth]

huh

wait you can get pom jelly on amazon

did people even use those

question mark

sorry dz60 no question mark

[dense hearth]

Anyone know if these caps would fit my SteelSeries Apex 7? https://hyperx.com/collections/accessories/products/hyperx-pudding-keycaps-pbt-full-key-set

[north jacinth]

yeah i put puddings on an apex pro you should be fine

[dire mist]

is there any type of mounting that wouldnt fit on the gmmk

im still pretty new to the keyboard stuff

[north jacinth]

mounting?

wait like keycaps?

[dense hearth]

Anyone know of any sites for buying like custom keycaps? I'm new to all of this keycap stuff myself.

But I think I'd like some custom keys for certain ones.

[dire mist]

Switches

[north jacinth]

uhh well gmmk is 5pin so you should be fine

[north jacinth]

etsy (surprisingly), kprepublic, carousell, drop.com i guess

[dense hearth]

they have stuff like character/keycaps you think?

Sounds weird I don't know how to explain it I seen like some character keycaps

[north jacinth]

like this?

[dense hearth]

no, sec I'll try and find a pic

[north jacinth]

k

[dense hearth]

Like this https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4225

[north jacinth]

ah

[dull compass]

artisan keycaps

[north jacinth]

you can find some cool ones on etsy or jellykey

[dire mist]

Does pcb vs plate mounting or anything like that matter

[north jacinth]

well

[dense hearth]

@dull compass ty!

[dull compass]

np

[north jacinth]

i wouldnt go plateless

maybe with 5pin

but yea no

[dull compass]

I mean platemount can be more durable with a good plate you can eliminate flex

[north jacinth]

im regretting not getting a brass plate lol

or foam

really regretting that

[dire mist]

I got my gmmk as a prebuilt

Sometime I might build a keyboard though

[north jacinth]

stabs are annoying the first time

so of its your first build id get preassembled ones

or just come here lmao

[eternal wraith]

?

[boreal rivet]

Buy topre, you wont have to worry about keycaps, case or switches

[eternal wraith]

if you're modding stabs why would you get preassembled

[boreal rivet]

Mx is just cope until you get into vints or topre

[north jacinth]

just saying if its your first build its easier

[eternal wraith]

alps/matias is better

:)

[quasi wasp]

@pallid trout never noticed how uneven my mousepad is until now lol

[north jacinth]

mine shifts soooooo often

[dense hearth]

Lol I’m bringing back the keycaps I bought. I wonder if the return employee is gonna be pissed seeing them like this.

[north jacinth]

well glad to see you got new ones

[junior sentinel]

is the ducky one 3 mini a good keyboard?

[chrome raft]

Which is best for travel use? With a tablet, phone etc

[unkempt dome]

Nuphy air 75

[north jacinth]

for what

[steady hatch]

its pretty good for the price the build quality is ok

[dire mist]

From the novelkeys mystery box

$22

[quasi wasp]

Wow that’s pretty insane, right?

[dire mist]

Yeah

I was expecting garbage switches

[quasi wasp]

Nice!

[dire mist]

time to build a new keyboard

these are 5 pin

gmmk is 3 pin

[dire mist]

Or to cut the extra pins off

Not ideal but possible

[silent oyster]

Anyone know if it’s possible to purchase Varmilo EC Ivy V2 switches? I’ve tried keyboards with them and love them, but I’d like to use them in a custom build

[ionic briar]

looks like a varmilo special, cause they dont sell single switches on the market

[warped nymph]

Opinion on Corsair k100?

[ionic briar]

cool switch performance but overpriced af

[silent oyster]

Big oof, guess I'll have to go through the oh so lovely process of buying a prebuilt and desoldering the switches :/...gotta get that Shinobi, no real competition for that guy

[kindred kelp]

Tips on a good gaming keyboard

[unkempt dome]

Get something not from a gaming brand ...

[ionic briar]

get something that feels good to you
and generally speaking avoid gaming brands cause they are not good price to performance products

[silent oyster]

Agreed with others, my best advice is to try anything you can with your own hands to get a feel for what you want. If you have stores near you with options, you can start there and keep trying stuff until you get exactly what you're looking for. You can often also order individual switches and the like to try, so that can also help narrow things down

[dire mist]

Are there any relatively cheap prebuilt keyboards that you can use 5 pin switches in

If not how frowned upon is it to cut pins off of 5 pin switches and make them 3 pin

[lean bison]

Rate my Keyboard. Gateron ink black v2, brass backplate, hotswap pcb, kbd75

[ionic briar]

ayy not bad 🙂

[hollow hamlet]

Any good keyboard reccomendations?
30 usd max

[ionic briar]

rk61

[whole talon]

that's a nice profile, tkl without any wasted space

[hollow hamlet]

what is the difference in pressing a blue vs red switch

also brwon and black

[ionic briar]

with blue switches, you will get a tactile feedback and an audible click sound midway down the keystroke
theres none of that on red
brown is blue but no auditory feedback and the tactility level is noticeably weaker
black is red but harder to press down

[hollow hamlet]

ok, i currently have one of the "mechanical feel" keyboards

what is similar to that

So far i think I might go with a blue

[ionic briar]

what keyboard do you have exactly?

[hollow hamlet]

jeez i think its not sold anymore

1 sec

[ionic briar]

g213?

cynosa?

[silent oyster]

My man there are so many more options than that, check out MechanicalKeyboards.com for the more mainstream options you can go buy in a physical retail store organized neatly, but there’s way more than that for more enthusiast peeps that wanna custom build stuff

[hollow hamlet]

@ionic briar its an n pet

[ionic briar]

yea i have no idea then
but considering most of em are rubber dome with more tactility than the cheapest rubber dome
prob switches with the tactility of mx brown would be the most similar in feel to what you currently have?

[hollow hamlet]

ok, Thanks

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X8DZQ78/

this decent?

[ionic briar]

ehhh
i would aim for the hexgears gk707 at least

[hollow hamlet]

link?

[ionic briar]

https://www.amazon.com/Hexgears-GK12-Mechanical-Replaceable-Removable/dp/B086QRBZJH

wait thats clicky tho

very light clicky switch

box white

[hollow hamlet]

ah, very expensive though

[ionic briar]

https://www.amazon.com/Hexgears-GK12-Mechanical-Replaceable-Removable/dp/B086QS1ZMK

really

[hollow hamlet]

54 right?

[ionic briar]

thats the lowest i would go personally for tkl board

yea

[hollow hamlet]

tkl?

[unkempt dome]

Well box white are really good tho ... prefer them over any blue

[ionic briar]

tenkeyless keyboard

[hollow hamlet]

ah

[ionic briar]

full size with the numpad chopped off

[hollow hamlet]

do you know anything about laptop type keyboards?

I love those

[limber dove]

Just finished my nk65 this thing is amazing

[hollow hamlet]

short key travel is good imo

[unkempt dome]

Well check on amazon for slim keyboard and you'll have plenty of those

[hollow hamlet]

thanks!

[ionic briar]

so like scissor switch keyboard style
the only thing you can get with that style i believe is the apple magic

[unkempt dome]

Hp have some too

[limber dove]

Corsair makes a low profile keyboard with cherry mx witches

[unkempt dome]

And so does Dell

[limber dove]

Logitech has some lp ones too but there very expensive

[unkempt dome]

And also some noname brands

[ionic briar]

mx is not low profile switches tho

well
low profile compare to the stuff predates the cherry mx, sure

[limber dove]

I actually have this board it sucks ass
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Gaming-Keyboards/RGB-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboards/K70-RGB-MK-2-Low-Profile/p/CH-9109017-NA

[hollow hamlet]

a lot of the lp ones have mice lol, Im prolly gonna go with one of those or the $25 one i found

[hollow hamlet]

looks like its good quality though

[unkempt dome]

Lowest profile mechanical I know are the kailh shock switches and some others that looks like them ...

[limber dove]

You can find them cheep on amazon

[ionic briar]

oh yea
low profile mx mount are shit

[limber dove]

so bad

[hollow hamlet]

do you guys care about mice or keyboards more?

[limber dove]

https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-K70-MK-2-RAPIDFIRE-Profile/dp/B07RCYDHPC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=39D584GRAEUCC&keywords=corsair+k70+lp&qid=1641622061&sprefix=corsair+k70+lp%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-4

[unkempt dome]

Both

[hollow hamlet]

which one more?

[unkempt dome]

None

[hollow hamlet]

I only care about mice tbh

G502 is what i use

[unkempt dome]

If you mean for gaming then mouse

[hollow hamlet]

ok

[unkempt dome]

If you mean for typing then keyboard

[ionic briar]

right now its my mouse cause the scroll wheel wears out and its binding

looking for a scroll wheel replacement, but it seems impossible

[hollow hamlet]

ah that sucks, I really recommend the G502 Wired

[unkempt dome]

Unless you play osu then keyboard for sure

[hollow hamlet]

it has good functionality w/ good build quality. and doesn't have another 100 useless keys on the side

[ionic briar]

i mean thats the disadvantage of how my mouse generate the step feel with the scroll wheel
the scroll wheel is made out of rubber, and the dpi change button grinds on the rubber groove to create that feel

[unkempt dome]

That's some kind of design flaw ?

[hollow hamlet]

Ah that sucks

[limber dove]

I've gone through lots of both finding what I want

[unkempt dome]

I'm not done trying to find what I want

[hollow hamlet]

what are your top picks? @limber dove

[ionic briar]

thats cost cutting
g102/203 is like 20 usd a piece

they could just let the scroll encoder to create that step feel
but i digress

[unkempt dome]

Strange ... it's about the same as the 305 ... haven't had that issue with the 305 ... the wheel is hard to press tho and sometimes one scroll don't register and sometimes it registers 2 times... but that's about the only problem I've had with it

And it's not that often

[ionic briar]

i mean, the g305 uses the same shroud like the g203 and the g pro wired
im not gonna be surprised when the dpi button also grinds on the scroll wheel as well for that step feel

[unkempt dome]

I should check that

[ionic briar]

i think you can see the wear on the scroll wheel right now ngl

tho the problem you described sounds like a dying scroll encoder and not the wheel being worn out

[unkempt dome]

It was like that brand new tho

[ionic briar]

huh

[hollow hamlet]

Aight i gtg to play cod, thanks for they help guys!

[ionic briar]

then theres something wrong with the pcb or something

brand new scroll wheel doesnt have any wear obv

[unkempt dome]

Might be ... I don't use it that often anyway ... I use the mm710 for now

Maybe some off adjustment of the scroll vs the encoder

[chrome raft]

u play osu for sure

[fallow otter]

Hi question does polling rate affect overall response time of a keyboard? Like lets say you brought a huntsman mini with a switch latency of 0.2ms but it has a 1000Hz polling rate, does that mean the mini is stuck at 1ms overall latency

[radiant thunder]

So what is a cheap but decent keyboard with multimedia keys?

[indigo violet]

whats the best switch for mechanical keyboards

[ionic briar]

theres no such things, its all up to your preference

[indigo violet]

okaay i guess

[ivory ingot]

[barren hamlet]

My first build. I’m in love with it.

[unkempt dome]

Looks nice

[long obsidian]

Looks like a keyboard

[unkempt dome]

I like the layout ...

[barren hamlet]

65% layout

It is just a keyboard, but it's a keyboard I put 10 hours into making

thats because I'm a noob, not because it's like super nice. its a budget build

[warped nymph]

Should I get a gaming keyboard or make my own? The budget is max $150. Can I make something good with that budget?

[eternal wraith]

depends on the layout

[barren hamlet]

You can get a decent hot-swap board for around that price. That would let you be able to change out switches when you want

[warped nymph]

say tkl

[eternal wraith]

tenkeyless you can def make your own

[warped nymph]

are those cheap

[eternal wraith]

a keychron c1 or k553 are hotswap so theyre pretty customisable

or a gamakay k87

[warped nymph]

whats the difference between c1 and k2

is the c1 tkl

[eternal wraith]

k2 is squished 75%, c1 is tenkeyless

[warped nymph]

ive seen stuff saying that k2 is hit or miss

[eternal wraith]

cause it is

[warped nymph]

quality control issues and uncomfortably thick

[eternal wraith]

c1 is very unlike that board

in many ways

[warped nymph]

Im a laptop boy so I want something to throw on my desk

[eternal wraith]

also, if you know how to solder you could also get a stacked series board

from cannonkeys

[warped nymph]

no soldering

[barren hamlet]

Thats going to be an upcoming purchase for me

[warped nymph]

im not getting one just yet

[eternal wraith]

what is?

[barren hamlet]

CannonKeys practice 75

[eternal wraith]

i'm getting an obliterated75

[unkempt dome]

65% but with no small keys on the bottom row ...

[barren hamlet]

Oh true. I got a novelties set just in case, but I did not know that when I bought it

[eternal wraith]

wait what board is that anyway

[barren hamlet]

KB67 Lite

KBD*

[warped nymph]

this is my life too

[eternal wraith]

1. FUCK

[barren hamlet]

Those Obliterated are nice

[eternal wraith]

2. damn lucky

[eternal wraith]

well i promised myself id get a stacked75 if i was unable to get an obliterated

so i'm not too angry ig

[warped nymph]

so what would be a good starter board

should I try out c1

[unkempt dome]

still waiting for the keychron Q2 to replace my durgod fusion

[eternal wraith]

man 65% is way too small for me

i need my f keys

[warped nymph]

f keys are very important

[barren hamlet]

this is my first go on it. switching from a tkl

[unkempt dome]

I never use F keys

[warped nymph]

so you can accidentally hit alt f4 mid game

very important

instead of hittimg alt f 3 to check my fps i always hit f4 lol

[unkempt dome]

also the F keys are still there on the second layer

[barren hamlet]

Yeah the layering stuff is cool

[unkempt dome]

i bind rina tuner to ctrl + shift + O

[eternal wraith]

my dream board would prolly have to be a Mr Suit

or an Iron 180

okay bye

[barren hamlet]

I've only been looking at them for about a month but i fell in love with the Mammoth 75

[eternal wraith]

chonky knob

but imo gasket mount is yucky

[barren hamlet]

https://www.amazon.com/Tecware-Phantom-Mechanical-Keyboard-Outemu/dp/B079HTZQYV/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=best60sandc-20&th=1

No idea of it's quality, but it says hotswap and I found it on a Switch&Click article

[eternal wraith]

tecware makes decent stuff

[unkempt dome]

what is the knob used for ? ...

only volume control ?

[eternal wraith]

i think you can program what it does in qmk

[barren hamlet]

you can

[eternal wraith]

not sure what it does stock

[warped nymph]

hm there are so many boards

[barren hamlet]

I've seen people who do a lot of video editing say it works for them

something about scrubbing and color accuracy blah blah

[unkempt dome]

I don't see any useful thing to do with that ...

[warped nymph]

i just want beautiful, good sound, but most importantly, reliablility

[eternal wraith]

if i got a mammoth75 id only use the knob for volume control

[barren hamlet]

same lol

[warped nymph]

I want a sexy panzer for a keyboard pretty much

[eternal wraith]

i prefer dedicated media control :)

which is why im maining a modded corsair k65 lux rn

[unkempt dome]

I don't need media control on my keyboard ...

[barren hamlet]

i'm looking hard for a macro pad that has the knob on it. literally for no other reason than i think it's col

[warped nymph]

where is best place to get keyboard parts

would it be kbd fans

[eternal wraith]

kbdfans is a start

[barren hamlet]

In my brief time i have shopped from many many places

[unkempt dome]

I'll get the Q2 without knob

[eternal wraith]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/ check this list for vendors in your country

[barren hamlet]

good list there

[eternal wraith]

nice

[warped nymph]

everywhere seems kinda sketch ngl lol

[eternal wraith]

only place id consider sketch is candykeys

and even then its a bit of a stretch

[barren hamlet]

I felt that way at first too but they all have discords pretty much which made me feel better

[warped nymph]

so what would i want to do to my keyboard to make it better. Say if I got the c1

lube, and maybe switch changes

[unkempt dome]

here when it's not free shipping it usually kills the deal ...

[warped nymph]

but is there anything else

and keycaps maybe

[barren hamlet]

lubing my switches was the biggest difference for me. it makes such a difference to the sound and feel. I will never go back to unlubed I dont think

[warped nymph]

well i still have crusty hp 2009 membrane boi

[barren hamlet]

I did do the mod where you put tape under your stablizers, but the kit came with those

[warped nymph]

i dont use of course now I have laptop

[trail lava]

do people sell Ultra Low profile keycaps?

[eternal wraith]

tbf the bobas im using in my corsair are so good they dont need to be hand lubed

oop

[barren hamlet]

I've heard that..... so i ordered some!

[unkempt dome]

lowest I've seen with cherry mount is some dsa profile ...

[eternal wraith]

like

bobas are obvs better hand lubed but it doesnt affect the smoothness much

only sound

and you're supposed to donut dip the springs but stock theyre fine

[barren hamlet]

i ordered some bobas, holy pandas, and some owl lab tungstens because i went on a bit of a spree one night

[eternal wraith]

man

yok trash pandas are on clearance on novelkeys

[barren hamlet]

theyre on teh way too lol

[eternal wraith]

and im so tempted to get those and halo trues

[barren hamlet]

i dipped a toe into the mystery keys

[eternal wraith]

to make og holy pandas

[barren hamlet]

and i saw the trash pandas on sale. couldn't resist

[eternal wraith]

hm

i havent heard much about tungstens

how are they

[barren hamlet]

They need lube, for sure

I haven't tried them out too much yet, but they do feel okay. I just don't like the sound right now

[unkempt dome]

yeah I wanted to get the mystery switches ... but when you add shipping and exchange rate it gets really expensive ... for that kind of money I should just get some akko switches from amazon instead

[eternal wraith]

are penyus still on sale?

those sound incredible and i want them

...being that i'm a fan of BCPs

[barren hamlet]

never heard of those switches

gotta hit the google

[eternal wraith]

YES

they are

[barren hamlet]

that sounds like a nice switch for sure

[eternal wraith]

idk how well they compare to something like

ink blacks

but i just hope they feel nice

[eternal wraith]

there's dsa profile, and theres also kailh choc

dsa is mx, kailh choc is kailh choc

how low you go depends on your dedication and price.

[trail lava]

oh my goodness, so many things I don't understand

just tryna get myself a costum keycaps for Redragon K614

[eternal wraith]

just get dsa

dsa profile keycaps*

[trail lava]

Is it compatible with my keyboard?

[eternal wraith]

should be

assuming your switches are MX style

so anything with this + stem

[trail lava]

Idk what style do u mean by MX

Is it the + thingy?

[ionic briar]

yea
that + keycap mount is the defining characteristic of mx style switches

tho the image above is just a categorization of all cherry mx offerings

[trail lava]

Oh I see

It has + on it, but with the rears(?)

[ionic briar]

ah
that thing is stem stabilization that some manufacture implemented to reduce stem and keycap wobbling

[trail lava]

Oh ok

[ionic briar]

since the mx keycap mount only needs the cross section
just as long as whatever the heck you add on the stem doesnt surpass the height of the keycap mount, you would be fine

[eternal wraith]

^ what he said

lol

[fathom cape]

is there anyone with RK61 keyboard pls DM me asap

[dire mist]

What do you think I could sell my old huntsman for

It has those clicky optical switches that are nice and annoying

I might buy a gmmk pro instead of cut these pins off

[whole thicket]

is it the huntsman te or the normal huntsman elite?

Id guess around 80 bucks you could get, depending on how clean it is. Dont quote me on that tho, I dont really know alot about razer keyboards

[dire mist]

Not an elite just a normal full size

It's in really good shape because I really only used it for a year before going to a gmmk

[whole thicket]

Also keep in mind the gmmk pro is a kit where you dont get switches and keycaps, just to be sure you know

[dire mist]

I have switches

Gateron Ink Blacks

[whole thicket]

noice

lubed them?

[dire mist]

Not yet

Just got them in a mystery box yesterday

[whole thicket]

My black inks that Ill be using for frankens with nk cream stem will arrive tomorrow

Im hyped

[dire mist]

The reason i want to get the gmmk pro is because I need a 5 pin keyboard

[whole thicket]

blade65 will only arrive in march tho sadge

[dire mist]

I don't want to cut pins off

[elder stone]

Take a look at keychron's Q-series as well then

Similar board, but often cheaper

And is 5-pin as well

[bleak anchor]

This maybe obvious but I would need a desoldering gun to separate the plate from the pcb, right?

and to also take out the switch and stabilizers?

[unkempt dome]

Which keyboard is this ?

[bleak anchor]

Victsing Tkl Mechanical Keyboard RGB

[unkempt dome]

Then I would say yeah most likely you have to desolder unless they come with outemu hotswap socket but that would be surprising

[bleak anchor]

yeah, rn i trying to find a switch puller/keycap puller

imma try to mod this keyboard over time

[unkempt dome]

Check on amazon ... you can find that for cheap

[bleak anchor]

how muhc should i max pay for one?

[unkempt dome]

no idea ... paid my wire switch puller under 10$ cad

[bleak anchor]

k then

[bleak anchor]

also, do you think the foam mod is a good start?

[barren hamlet]

I just bought some on amazon, let me get the links

[unkempt dome]

depend if you think it sounds hollow or has too much reverb

I'm not a sound chaser so I don't really care ...

[barren hamlet]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011BNCUH0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M31LE5D/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[unkempt dome]

people say that the gmmk sound awful but I think it sounds good so ...

I don't care much about sound unless there's spring ping or rattle ... therefore why I don't like click jacket switches

[swift kayak]

For someone that switched from ISO to ANSI, how well did you adapt to longer enter and shift key?
I've been using ISO for my whole life, my hands posture would make me press backslash key if I were to switch to this

[unkempt dome]

about 2 minutes

and can't go back to a short left shift anymore

cause that fkng stupid annoying key always gets in the way

best layout would be big ass iso enter key but with the long left shift cause I always use the left shift

[tall karma]

I havent made a switch from iso to ansi, but i have made much larger ones (standard to split ergo, qwerty to a different layout) and I can tell you you will likely adapt quite fast

[swift cosmos]

What is the best 100% keyboard with numbpad I can get for 65

[tall karma]

well all 100% keyboards have a numpad, so thats a given
however assuming you mean usd the tecware phantom is good under your budget, if you can stretch it a little more the keychron c2 is better in every way for $70

[swift cosmos]

UK but I think its relatively similar

[tall karma]

then the c2 might be in your budget

[swift cosmos]

Ok

It's wired

Is it better than an equivalent but wireless at the same price?

[tall karma]

yes, wireless adds cost and complexity, which mean necessary sacrifices especially at this pricepoint

if you want wireless im sure there are options, i just dont know of any good choices off the top of my head

[elder stone]

100% wireless at that budget is... tough

especially if you want it with decent latency

[violet cairn]

anybody have recommendations for some good budget 75% and 100% mechanical keyboards?

wireless is preferred but wired is fine too

i dont need it for gaming, its mostly for general use, and the occasional minecraft

because ill be docking my laptop and using a monitor

[short silo]

How much better do all perform in games with a keyboard of your choice versus having a regular manufactured keyboard?

Like does having a certain type of keyboard help perform better or is it just more of a preference since its just a keyboard??

[chrome raft]

there is practically no difference tho some may argue that faster switches are better

[ionic briar]

it really depends on your feel with a particular switch
cause if you got used to and in the flow with a particular board, you can go fast as fuck on something like the run of the mill corsair rgb puke

with that in mind, faster switch is not better unless you really got used to it

[short silo]

I'm still not use to my new keyboard and ive had it for at least 3 months now.

How long does it take to get use to something?? Is my brain slow at learning??

I mean i can type up to 80 wpm on it, but using the backspace i tend to hit then \| instead

[wanton raven]

i think i will try my luck on a entirely 3D printed keyboard. a guy ive met on discord released some quite intresting 3D printed switch design on github.

[barren hamlet]

I'm interested to hear how that goes

[dire mist]

Any way I could get you to send me that in DMs?

I might try that but with a macropad or something

[wanton raven]

cant send you a DM

but i guess sending the link for the github here should be fine

https://github.com/riskable/void_switch

[dire mist]

It's probably fine

[wanton raven]

he plans to sell PCBs for entire keyboards, but thats still in planning

[dire mist]

Now I have a reason to try to get my 3d printer working again

[wanton raven]

you will have to tune the printer quite well, since you deal there with quite tight tolerances

[dire mist]

Might just go to a makerspace to do that then

[wanton raven]

Kinda forgot to mention that the switches are configurable.

[unkempt dome]

It doesn't

Keyboard is always preference ...

Don't believe gaming marketing bullshit like that keyboard is faster with 37% more kill and such shit

Get something you feel comfortable with and that's about it

[whole talon]

i mean you shoot with your mouse so really the keyboard shouldn't matter

tactile switches do make a difference to typing speed though

because your fingers feel the tactile bump and know they can move on to another key before you actually see the letters appear on the screen

[boreal rivet]

you can do the same with linears if your muscle memory is good

[unkempt dome]

You can do the same with linear

[whole talon]

yeah with linear you could just get a low force key and the tactile feeling is from the key bottoming out i guess

[unkempt dome]

Also tactile bump often is not the actuation point anyway

[whole talon]

it should be just at the end of the bump

[unkempt dome]

You can do that with blacks ...

The actuation point is not always as the end of the bump

[whole talon]

what's the point of the bump then? those sound like bad switches lol

[unkempt dome]

And for some clickies it's sometimes before the tactile event

[whole talon]

idk i only have my own browns to compare, seems the activation is just at the end of the bump

[unkempt dome]

Cherry brown ...

[whole talon]

my only problem with linear is getting multiple activations because there's no bump separating on/off

[boreal rivet]

tactiles actuate at the peak of the bump fyi

[whole talon]

but maybe that's just from bad switches with not enough hysteresis

[unkempt dome]

Not all tactiles are the same tho

[boreal rivet]

and yet that feature still stands

[whole talon]

oh wait no linears have hysteresis

unless optical because internally those are analog

[boreal rivet]

yes

[whole talon]

but over time you start to get multiple activations on optical switches too in my experience

[unkempt dome]

Pretty sure not all tactile actuate at the bump

[boreal rivet]

examples?

mx btw

[unkempt dome]

Ocean blue

Oh you meant mx cherry

[whole talon]

it still operates right at the end of the bump

[unkempt dome]

Well the cherry brown actuate after the bump, not at the top

[whole talon]

yeah that's what i thought, it's at the end of the bump

[boreal rivet]

huh i must've gotten my facts wrong then mb

[unkempt dome]

That one is strange ...

But they feels great

[whole talon]

which one is that?

speed copper?

that does look great, tactile bump right at the top

gold is interesting too

[unkempt dome]

Yes kailh speed copper

[ashen briar]

someone who can suggest a 70% jeyboard

keyboard

[silver plank]

Tofu60

Just a little smaller

[ionic briar]

keychron q1?

[ashen briar]

does it support most polpular switches?

like glorious pandas

[ionic briar]

yep

[ashen briar]

and the gmnk pro?

is that good?

[tall karma]

gmmk yes

[ashen briar]

pro not?

[tall karma]

pro is good, non pro is meh for price

[dire mist]

I wish there was a full sized pro

I want a keyboard that supports 5 pin switches but is also full sized

At the gmmk pro price

[ionic briar]

i guess theres the akko mod003
its 1800 and not really true full size tho

[tall karma]

you can always clip the 2 pins off, you cant return the switches then but they still work

[ashen briar]

the new asus keyboard

but dont know if it released yet

[loud nova]

Todays challenge - will I get pissed off with this red switch keyboard enough to overcome my laziness and get another keyboard

[loud nova]

which one? I want a rog claymore II.

[ashen briar]

dont know the name but its like a custom keyboard

with foammod

and a hotswappable option

[loud nova]

Proof that red switches are junk and mnobody wants them

[eternal wraith]

surprised

[ashen briar]

liniar switches are so nice

i currently have gateron blues

and i want to switch to a glorious panda or kailh

[worldly shale]

red switches are fine

at this point i prefer outemu reds to gat yellows

[woeful lantern]

Would say blue switches are bad vs other switches and I like my clicky switches atm using box white

[loud nova]

Red switches just... Ugh. Do not want.

Although I can't actually find an Australian retailer selling blues, so they may not have even bought any in the country

[dire mist]

How complicated is a keyboard pcb

And is the pcb removable in a gmmk

[haughty cobalt]

fairly

[haughty cobalt]

and probably

[dire mist]

does anybody have a schematic of the gmmk full size

[haughty cobalt]

like a pcb schematic

and also, why, if you don't mind me asking

[dire mist]

i want a full size keyboard that supports 5 pin switches but that isnt really available so i thought if i could get a pcb schematic for the gmmk i could see if it was possible to punch the extra holes necessary for 5 pin switches

and if the pcb is easy to remove get one printed and swap it

[haughty cobalt]

no, maybe don't do that

[dire mist]

why not

the extra pins are just for stability arent they?

[haughty cobalt]

get something like a keychron C2

[haughty cobalt]

yes but drilling holes in PCBs is never a good idea

[dire mist]

i was saying put the holes in the schematic and get a new pcb printed

[haughty cobalt]

oh, ok

misunderstood that

would still be a better idea to get a keychron C2

or an akko mod003 if you have more budget

[dire mist]

it isnt full size though

[haughty cobalt]

it is

that's full size

[dire mist]

oh i saw the k2 before

whoops

is there any way to order that without switches

[haughty cobalt]

nope

but as I said, the akko mod 003 is pretty good I think

just more expensive

[urban glade]

@dire mist why do you want 5 pin lol

It’d make sense if using a half plate, but it doesn’t seem like you are

Just clip the legs off of the 5 pin switches and they’ll work fine lol

[dire mist]

I got black inks but don't want to to cut the extra pins off

Like what if I don't like them

Or I mess up

Or one is faulty

[urban glade]

I guarantee it’s impossible to mess up cutting little plastic pins off

Iirc they’re just boring linears - if you’ve ever used another linear switch you should have a decent idea of whether you like it or not

If it’s too heavy etc you can mod them

Usually faulty switches will have obvious damage to the leaf in my experience

And I’ve only had that happen with old switches, nearly everything brand new is good

You bought straight from novelkeys? I guarantee they won’t require you send back a single dead switch lol

[dire mist]

Yeah they came from novelkeys

In a mystery box

[rocky sphinx]

i want to buy a custom key board where should i get it from

[eager kiln]

How much do you got

[eager kiln]

If you have about 100usd to 150, you should try akko mod series. Akko made some fine kits for newbies. I got mod001 for my first custom keyboard.

[violet geyser]

akkos pretty great nk and keychron have decent options, if you have more money you could get kbd67

[eager kiln]

My boss also is a player, he suggested me akko. He also helped me modding plate from tray mount to gasket mount.

[cunning anvil]

corne case arrives tomorrow im hype

[rocky sphinx]

Ok

[violet geyser]

Total player

[eager kiln]

Ye, i think he's a player, he has like 20 keyboards. Even the pre-build ones that he spent time removing every single soldered switch. He have a modded k100, and he did it all by himself. He has real passion with mech key you know

I used pre-build a keyboard, a fuhlen subverter. When it's dead, my boss told me to try modding a keyboard, it's a fun experience that i think everyone should try once

[rocky sphinx]

do you have to buy the switches seprate?

[eager kiln]

Yes, i buy gateron yellow

[rocky sphinx]

key caps are 60$

[eager kiln]

I know, but if you buy abs, it's only 20 bucks

But abs keycaps are not long lasting, you can buy pbt double shot after abs is blurred

[silent rapids]

you can get keycaps that're 60 bucks PER CAP.

or more, if you look around

[whole talon]

You can get good pbt caps for $25-45

[hard sonnet]

my " and @ are mapped to each other, how do I fix this?

all the others work fine

nevermind the hastag is now a £ as well

I dont know where to find it

I have ¬ this instead of accent grave, " swapped with @ and £ instead of a hastag, what language is this and how do I change it?

nevermind, my windows automatically changed it along with display language, I set it to UK English, and it thought maybe I wanted to have UK board inputs aswell, whoops

[unkempt dome]

Widows always does some shit like that

[somber elk]

what are y'all's favorite gasketed keyboards? any cool group buys to hop on right now?

[unkempt dome]

I don't have any gasket mount keyboard

[teal marsh]

thoughts on Gateron Brown switches?
i have them in my Keychron K8

[eternal wraith]

Q1, such an insane value

ofc it needs mods to sound and feel decent but compared to gmmk pro, a competitor, it needs way less

[unkempt dome]

glad I don't care about sound

[eternal wraith]

good lol

a lot of us are obsessed with it.

[unkempt dome]

less work and I enjoy stuff more easily

unless it's rattle or ping ... then I try to fix it

[eternal wraith]

for me it's like

yeah idrc how my board sounds either, i just want my stabs to sound and feel acceptable

[unkempt dome]

mostly yes

but I still can say that the best sounding switches I have are the gateron yellow for now ...

and the best sounding board I have is the durgod fusion with sadly cherry brown

[eternal wraith]

cherry browns, as much as theyre memed on

[unkempt dome]

but I won't put any efforts to change the sound and such

[eternal wraith]

i actually kinda dig the sound of.

feel, not so much, but whatever

preference

[unkempt dome]

yeah feeling of cherry brown is quite meh

[eternal wraith]

one thing id like to try

brown stem or clear stem in blue housing.

i reckon itd be quite nice tbf. blues apparently have the most tactile leafs out of p much any cherry afaik

[unkempt dome]

i just go with lavender purple if I want more tactility

[somber elk]

I recently got some tangerines and they were honestly life changing? they just feel so perfect.

[eternal wraith]

what did you have prior?

[somber elk]

I used cherry browns for many years then mx reds and then mx speeds

[eternal wraith]

damnnn that's one hell of an improvement. glad you like it then

oop

[somber elk]

the mx speeds were nice but too easy to actuate. the tangerines feel luxurious compared to a red

they were a potentially expensive gateway drug for me :p

[eternal wraith]

i should try jwicks tbh, apparently theyre like 85% of the smoothness of a tangie but at a cheap price

[unkempt dome]

I don't like linear switches

thought about getting the kiwi

[eternal wraith]

i'm indifferent about tactiles or linears

i like a smooth linear but a good tactile is nice too

[unkempt dome]

I need the tactile bump

[eternal wraith]

apparently kiwis use the same stem as durock t1s

so you're essentially paying extra for a slightly better sound

[unkempt dome]

durock t1 are also quite expensive ... about the same as kiwi here

[eternal wraith]

what country?

[unkempt dome]

canada

[eternal wraith]

ooof.

[unkempt dome]

it's all around 100$ for 90 to 110 switches once you add the shipping, taxes and import fees

[eternal wraith]

jesus christ-

so kiwis and t1s are roughly the same price

[unkempt dome]

within 20$ last I checked yes

same for the boba u4t

which are those I would get if I wanted to spend 100$ ± 20$ on switches

[eternal wraith]

man i spent £55 on 90 boba u4ts when i restored my k65 lux earlier

so $95 cad

i feel ripped off

[unkempt dome]

from aliexpress it's 93 $ for 110 boba u4t

[somber elk]

yeah, i paid ~100 us for a board worth of lubed and filmed tangerines. still probably the best keyboard money i've spent?

they're in a portico right now and feel great, i just want the board to look and feel more "premium" even if that's dumb

will probably grab a q1 or q2

i do like a lot of "gamery" features though. supposedly the logitech g pro x is hot swappable and standard 5 pin

[unkempt dome]

I'm supposed to get the Q2 when it comes out

[somber elk]

the open buy for the q2 is tomorrow so i'll probably try and snag one

[eternal wraith]

you're supposed to?

who's making you buy it

[restive oyster]

what are some 50$-75$ preferably full size but size dosent matter,keyboard kits with a knob that arent trash?

[unkempt dome]

Yeah still trying to decide if it's worth it or not

[eternal wraith]

that's a hard question

tm680 is budget and has a knob but

65% layout

[restive oyster]

is it the tm680 a decent kit tho

[eternal wraith]

ive heard mixed things about it

some batches had defective pcbs

[restive oyster]

oh well then....Have you heard anything about akko's full sized keyboards and if they are good?

[eternal wraith]

akko mod 004 is a solid deal

but its a tray mount board so your comfort might vary

mod 003 is great too but rn it's out of stock

if you know how to solder just go with cannonkeys stacked

[restive oyster]

what about the already prebuilt ones like the ones with switches and keycaps already in them

like this one https://en.akkogear.com/product/ocean-star-3098b-mechanical-keyboard/

[eternal wraith]

decent

[restive oyster]

alright one last question does the same go for the 3068b?

[eternal wraith]

a little pricy

but if you have no other good option then its fine

[restive oyster]

I mean I asked them and they said that they are going to realease a year of the tiger edition for 90$~ should I go for that or do you have any other prebuilt recommendations

[eternal wraith]

not sure, don't know much about prebuilts but those seem fine

its about what id pay for a prebuilt hotswap 65%

the 1800 layout board seems like a far better deal though

[restive oyster]

like the 109$ one?

[eternal wraith]

yeah

[restive oyster]

I will keep that in mind and proceed to ask the dumbest question ever....thoughts on the logitech g pro league of legends edition

[somber elk]

I have a g pro that I used before going custom mech, it's a good board but you have to like logitech switches obviously which can be a lil hit or miss

the software and lighting is really nice, uses non standard keycaps but works well if you want to use it stock

trying to track down a g pro x so i can try and get that feature set with tangerines :3

[eternal wraith]

but then you'd have tinted rgb

which doesnt sound that amazing ngl

[lament crypt]

hey

i have a question

where can i buy lubed and filmed milky black switches?

[eternal wraith]

thats an oddly specific switch to want to buy

[lament crypt]

yeah

[eternal wraith]

is there any reason why you couldn't do it yourself?

[lament crypt]

too much work

[somber elk]

true, but i mostly use solid pink or purple in my setup and it's not terribly hard to correct to one color

[eternal wraith]

you could probably hire a service off r/mechmarket to do it for you

but id recommend just doing it yourself honestly

[eternal wraith]

people lube switches differently, and you might not like the consistency at which someone might lube it

@lament crypt

when you do it yourself its much easier to redo it to get the consistency you like

and cheaper

[dire mist]

Who pinged

[steel remnant]

If you want to know more about 3D printed switches/keycaps/keyboards I'm the guy behind all that stuff 😄

[steel remnant]

That was me, I just replied to your earlier message and included a gif which got removed 🤷‍♂️

Aside: It would be nice if Discord's automoderation features didn't remove the entire message and instead could remove just the offending link from the message. SIgh. I typed up a long thing with lots of details then by the time I noticed it was removed I forgot what I wrote! Up arrow didn't work 😦

Anyway, I'm currently working on a bunch of tutorials on how to design your analog keyboard PCB in Kicad 6. Other folks are working on ways to make keyboards using my Void Switches without the PCB too 👍

I type on my analog hall effect key switches all day every day 🙂

[long obsidian]

doubt it's discord

[steel remnant]

I'm pretty sure it's a limitation of Discord... I used to moderate the Keycap Designer's Discord (it doesn't exist anymore, sigh) and we talked about this same sort of problem before... Not having the ability to just X-out/remove links or images in a message. We had to remove the whole message

[long obsidian]

Would argue it's not a limitation. I'd rather have it

[steel remnant]

Yeah, it's better than nothing for sure. But we shouldn't be discussing that here.

[dire mist]

Oh that's sick

As I'm trying to mess with that stuff I'm sure I'll have more questions but right now my printer isn't operational and my makerspace is closed to college students and staff only because of covid

[jovial zephyr]

I just got the Logitech g613 it's a good mechanical keyboard but has one flaw that sometimes bothers me

[eternal wraith]

that being?

[jovial zephyr]

the keyboard switches sound like there echoing on the inside.

[steel remnant]

That can be fixed with foam inserts (or bandaids) but it can be a lot of work

My key switches don't have that problem but I did try inserting some fabric between the top plate and the PCB and that dampened the sound of the keyboard a bit. Not as much as I thought it would though. Needs more experimentation with different kinds of fabrics/foam.

With a traditional mechanical keyboard you can do something similar by putting little bits of foam/bandaid material inside the switch housings or just generally inside the keyboard case.

[jovial zephyr]

I looking to replace the keyboard anyway. the switches are to quite for me

[steel remnant]

Too quiet? Haha. Not the type of complaint you usually hear about keyboards

You could attach relays to your keyboard to take the clicking sound to the extreme like I did a while back haha: https://youtu.be/6hMOGKTudcg

[jovial zephyr]

I am looking to build this keyboard beam spring + click solenoid

I am looking for a keyboard around 86 db

[steel remnant]

Beam spring with solenoids? That's serious!

[jovial zephyr]

yea its seriously loud

[steel remnant]

You going to use actual IBM beam spring switches or just something similar (e.g. Input Club Silo switches)?

[jovial zephyr]

actual IBM beam spring switches

[restive oyster]

Which keyboard is more worth it the ACR 98 or a 3098B variant (both from akko)

[chrome raft]

I built a keyboard recently and everything sounds good apart from both shift keys where I’ve bought new stabilizers and tried new switches but whatever I try it just sounds so dampened with absoloutly no click can someone help

[eternal wraith]

owie. that's so loud

how does it sound without any post processing, recording equipment or anything? like from a distance

[restive oyster]

@eternal wraith do you know?

[boreal rivet]

did you holee mod it lmfao

[cinder zephyr]

i gave a gpro x keyboard and i bought red switches for it because they where loud it said it was hot swappable but i took out the switch and it got shredded

thats what it looks like help pls

[barren hamlet]

I think you just need a switch puller. the top half of the switch came off

They are cheap on amazon. like $10 for a 2-pack

easy fix

[steady hatch]

is it this one ?

it might not be hot-swap

[cinder zephyr]

its destroyed

what keyboard would you recommend getting

[barren hamlet]

it doesn't look destroyed, and the website says it comes with a switch puller

if you destroyed the switch, nbd you were gonna replace anyways

[cinder zephyr]

i bought the wrong one thought i bought the gpro x but i bought the gpro its not hotswapable

i cant get a refund

ive spent too much money in this company

[steel remnant]

Pretty damned loud and clicky, haha.

[barren hamlet]

If the switch isn't destroyed you can still put it back together. That is still easy

[eternal wraith]

jesus.

[steel remnant]

I typed on it for two whole days straight and my wife could hear it on the other side of the house. It wasn't deafening though. Just the sort of sound that you can hear from pretty far away haha

[eternal wraith]

i wonder how it compares to something like an actual typewriter.

[barren hamlet]

if you reeally want a cheap hotswap, that is guaranteed to be hotswap, try this one out though @cinder zephyr Tecware Phantom 87 Key Mechanical Keyboard Currently $46 on Amazon (plus RGB for more FPS)

[cinder zephyr]

ok i will see what i can get i guess

[barren hamlet]

That one was Switch & Click's budget pick, so it should be decent

[whole thicket]

guys

do I

[barren hamlet]

I like the pruple and green one myself, but its a cool keeb

[potent void]

I haven’t seen the other colors but that one looks nice

[gleaming atlas]

Desolder + solder a new switch. Ez pz. Linus just did this on his wife's board. Might only be on floatplane right now though....

[jovial zephyr]

I am stuck between two keyboards right now don't know what Keyboard to buy

[eternal wraith]

which ones?

[jovial zephyr]

Keychron K2 or Keychron K3 Ultra-slim

[eternal wraith]

explain why you'd like one or the other

[jovial zephyr]

I like both not sure witch one is better for long term use

[eternal wraith]

i think both would be quite good

[jovial zephyr]

I am using it for class mainly typeing

[eternal wraith]

imo i wouldnt go for k3 since i kinda hate low profile switches

neither are hotswap

hmm

probably k3, since it looks like it'd make less noise

idk how much you like the keycap profile tho

[jovial zephyr]

I am rocking the blue switches and noice is somthing I don't care about

[glad blade]

is the razer synapse software as bad as people say it is?

[jovial zephyr]

it ok some people make it sound worse then what it is

[glad blade]

idk if this is the right place to ask for it, but would you recommend the Razer Basilisk Ultimate HyperSpeed?

[jovial zephyr]

it's a good mouse

price might be a little high

[glad blade]

yeah the price is a bit high, what do you think of the hyperx pulsefire dart?

[jovial zephyr]

for the price it's really good

[glad blade]

have you got any ergonomic wireless mice recommendations? sorry for asking a lot...

[jovial zephyr]

I run a mx master 1 and it's my fav gaming mouse

[dusk widget]

I restored a free keyboard someone was giving away

Here’s a before and after

Don’t even know what model it is but it’s cooler master

[eternal wraith]

damn, looks new

how is it btw

[dusk widget]

Oh it runs super well. I’m unsure what type of switches this keyboard has

But thanks - took like an hour to clean all the key caps and run a vacuum on the board

That thing was nasty lol. I love how tactile it is

[eternal wraith]

nice

[dire mist]

It hurts

Might need smaller side cutters

[digital creek]

Typewriters can sound like machine guns when they get going

Mine does

Though mine is electric

About halfway in it goes full machinegun mode

[dire mist]

Yeah I have a smith corona word processor and it's a lot of fun to hit the print button

[unkempt dome]

First stuff I typed was on a mechanical typewriter...

That key travel... the clacking sound

And then it was a model m equivalent with out first computer

Buckling spring were really quiet compared to that typewriter we had

[pseudo bolt]

Not surprised, tbh. Whilst some cite buckling springs as being modelled to replace typewriters (in fact, buckling spring typewriters are a thing), that's not really correct. The closest to something like that would be IBM's beam spring switches from the '70s, although keyboards that had these largely relied on solenoids inside to make more noise.

And before beam springs, IBM's first generation of keyboards were literally typewriters with more advanced electronics or keyboards using their elastic diaphragm switches. The latter being a hybrid of typewriter mechanism and metal 'proto-membrane'.

[round vessel]

Is the Logitech G915 still a good keyboard in 2022?

[unkempt dome]

It never was (insert picture of the meme there cause I don't have it)

[round vessel]

oh

welp

I just watched a bunch of reviews that said it was really good and stuff but now you've put me off

What would you recommend instead?

[unkempt dome]

That was more of a joke tho

But if you want prebuilt then leopold, durgod, varmilo, keychron (with hotswap socket) and maybe ducky

[round vessel]

I'm literally a complete noob in keyboards

I just want one I can use without too much effort

[unkempt dome]

Check out every brand that I mentioned and check if there's something there that suit your needs

Those usually have better build quality than what most gaming brands can offers for the same price and even less

[round vessel]

btw, I don't do gaming, I'll be using it solely for typing

[unkempt dome]

Varmilo has really nice keycaps options too

Doesn't matter what you use it for

there's not such things as that keyboard is for typing and that one is for gaming and such

it's always and only a matter of preference

[round vessel]

Okay

[unkempt dome]

What layout you like, what switches you like, what color scheme you like and such

[round vessel]

Actually, in regards to the Logitech release cycle, when will the successor to the G915 be released?

Most reviews I've seen of it are quite old

[unkempt dome]

No idea

I don't follow gaming brand releases ... well most keyboard release except the keychron Q2

[round vessel]

So maybe I should wait a few months?

[unkempt dome]

Find a place where you can try some switches

So it can help you determine which ones you like the most

[round vessel]

RIP because covid

[unkempt dome]

Well that's where a hotswappable keyboard comes in handy

[round vessel]

I don't want to go too deep into the rabbit hole of keyboards lol

[unkempt dome]

Hotswap is not deep and it offers easier way to fix the keyboard when there's a problem with it

[round vessel]

Oh I see

are hot swappable kbds expensive?

Oh - one thing I forgot to mention - I live in NZ, so PC components and peripherals are expensive here

[dusk widget]

Linus Tragic Tips

[unkempt dome]

Check keychron ... they have some ... not expensive ... less than the logitech you were looking for I bet

[round vessel]

ouchc

I don't think there are local sellers

so I'd have to import it

not worth it if the import fees alone are like $200

[unkempt dome]

Well where are you then ?

[round vessel]

NZ

New Zealand

[unkempt dome]

Oh that suck

[round vessel]

Yeah :/

[unkempt dome]

Yeah everything is expensive af there I've heard

Well maybe the gmmk

[round vessel]

:/

Sorry, GMMK?

[unkempt dome]

Hotswap keyboard

[round vessel]

Ah

May I ask, what keyboard do you use?

[unkempt dome]

Kemove snowfox for 60%
Durgod fusion for 75%
Gmmk for tkl

Only the durgod fusion is not hotswappable

I also have a k552 in pieces

[round vessel]

Sorry for the ignorance, but why have different sized keyboards?

[unkempt dome]

To try it out

Also for desk space concern

Next one to get is the keychron Q2

[round vessel]

seems expensive lol

[unkempt dome]

Maybe you can check the akko keyboard...

Well I got the fusion and snowfox from a keyboard reviewer so they were under half the retail price

[round vessel]

Oh, nice

[unkempt dome]

Totally yes ... he's a really nice guy ... we talked for more than an hour

[round vessel]

sounds awesome

[unkempt dome]

Indeed it is

I saw a lot if nice stuff that he sold ... but I can't get everything tho

[round vessel]

Sigh

meanwhile, here, everything is expensive af

[unkempt dome]

That suck

[round vessel]

so idk

g915 might be the best option

how are other "big" brands? like coolermaster or steelseries

I have a Razer Blackwidow V3, with their clicky green switches, but they are waaay to loud for me, so I'm going with tactiles next time

[unkempt dome]

Steelseries probably have the better switches out of the gaming brand or so I've heard

[round vessel]

aaa

this is so complicated

i dont knowwhat to get now

[unkempt dome]

Get what will have the features you want like layout, size, macro or not, rgb or not and such

Pbt keycaps are better

[round vessel]

okay

thanks for your advice

[unkempt dome]

No problem

[round vessel]

there's just such a limited selection of keyboards where I am, damn it

[unkempt dome]

Well here we also have a hard time to get some stuff for cheap

[round vessel]

Not just for cheap, but shipping times and import fees

[unkempt dome]

Same here

[sour gyro]

any cool duckys come out lately?

[fringe pike]

I kind of have a weird question, are there any keyboards available in Japan with Hall switches?

Or at least, Japanese layout with Hall switches?

[boreal rivet]

No

[digital creek]

I think my typewriter is broken. The spell check on it says "yeet" isn't a word

[whole thicket]

Huh?

[digital creek]

It's saying "yeet" isn't a word when I spell check

[whole thicket]

your typewriter is saying that?

thats a fancy typewriter

[ionic briar]

looks like thats a thing on electronic typewriters

tho tbh
yeet is a relatively new word in the dictionary tho

[whole thicket]

maybe your typewriter is still on the 1899 update

Its gotta be at least 1946 for it to know yeet and sheesh tho

[digital creek]

Made in 1986 so IDK

[digital creek]

Xerox Memorywriter 6020 with 64k rom

and spell check

I need to see if I can update the internal dictionary

[ionic briar]

yea yeet got an entry on dictionary.com in like 2021

so i dont think that most 1985 dictionaries have it

[digital creek]

I'm gonna email LMG about it lmao. A typewriter with spellcheck has got to be a good recipe for a catchy title/thumby

They did the video about the desktop calculator

Plus its kind of a printer