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urban glade
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idb60

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some stacked acrylic or 3d printed

brazen aspen
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Pngu so lit

quasi wasp
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"p"?

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Lmao I just noticed something

urban glade
brazen aspen
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Pretty much

quasi wasp
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ah

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very nice setting

urban glade
brazen aspen
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Good lad

quasi wasp
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Just try it

brazen aspen
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Stocker gaming mod incoming

quasi wasp
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haha

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Are you hearing what I'm hearing?

brazen aspen
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I’m not doing it, but I can guess what it does

quasi wasp
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Why aren't you doing it? :(

brazen aspen
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I am not home

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And I kinda know what will happen

quasi wasp
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Hm

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But you might enjoy the results

brazen aspen
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Not enough to have medical masks under my keyboard at all times

quasi wasp
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I mean it would be quite easy to make a version of this which is less intrusive

brazen aspen
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It’s called a desk pad

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Or even a keyboard mat

quasi wasp
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That probably makes more of a difference than any keyboard mod

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I feel like keycaps matter much more than the case too

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If you are isolating the sound from the table

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Does anyone here know where I can find good 75% keycap sets?

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And how does the Keychron K2 compare to the Epomaker Akko 3084?

boreal rivet
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anyone here who should know anything doesn't care about those so we dont know

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thats the power button lmao

quasi wasp
boreal rivet
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the led indicator positions are whack af

boreal rivet
urban glade
boreal rivet
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i agree

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the rest of it looks good to me tho

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and its BT!!!!

urban glade
boreal rivet
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I still have my cough from covid

urban glade
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filco is already the best bt tkl OhISmugynW

boreal rivet
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no realforce aesthetic KEKW

urban glade
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this isnt covid luckily

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kobo case is so good though

boreal rivet
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about keyboards

quasi wasp
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But they would be able to tell

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They don’t need to want to buy the keyboard

boreal rivet
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without owning it, how would one be able to tell if one is better than the other

urban glade
boreal rivet
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r2 looks boring to me

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no flair

urban glade
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true

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just add stickers to add flair

timid estuary
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anyone knows a good bluetooth dongle for windows? i had the tp link one and it was horrendous

boreal rivet
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r1 4head is so nice in a weird way

urban glade
boreal rivet
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r3 software suite looks good tho

urban glade
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plenty flair now!!

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ooo i havent seen it

boreal rivet
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and from what I read, delay isn't really noticeable on bt mode

urban glade
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i dont notice any delay on hhkb bt but i'm not a gamer

boreal rivet
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Engadget JP

本日(2021年10月25日)に東プレより発表された、REALFORCEシリーズの新世代モデル『R3キーボード』シリーズ。筆者もこの製品を先んじて試すことができたので、実際に触れてみて実感した楽しさと便利さを紹介します。

urban glade
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i dislike it less

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now that i'm looking at it again

boreal rivet
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still abit conflicted about the new badge, but its not too bad

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maybe it'll grow on me

urban glade
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0.8mm actuation distance based

boreal rivet
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the japanese have their priorities straight

urban glade
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i'll probably buy it because its bluetooth

boreal rivet
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same

urban glade
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but still going to get a bluetooth filco, i need a kobo frame

boreal rivet
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kobo frame?

urban glade
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lacquered filco case

boreal rivet
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yoooo, that looks nice af

urban glade
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i was planning on keeping it boring with candy cherry, but the more complex ones are also super cool

boreal rivet
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yeah

urban glade
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mardi gras is super cool

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but i'd need this kap for it 😌

quasi wasp
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@urban glade do you use a deskpad?

urban glade
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nope

quasi wasp
urban glade
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i've used a deskpad before

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shrug

quasi wasp
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Hm

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Why not anymore?

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And what do you all think about o-rings?

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And where do you all buy keycaps?

urban glade
quasi wasp
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Hm alright

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Doesn’t that roughly do the same as a foam mod?

urban glade
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i do not know what a foam mod is

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other than i assume filling the case with foam and ruining it in the process

quasi wasp
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And what about O-Rings?

urban glade
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imo yeah, foam gets rid of any character from the board and makes it sound dead

quasi wasp
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Hm

urban glade
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i dont like o rings. if you need a quiet board just get silent switches in the first place

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o rings dont quieten the upstroke anyway

quasi wasp
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Wait, isn’t the noise it dampens not switch specific?

urban glade
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i'm not sure why you would use o rings if not to quieten the board

quasi wasp
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Or do silent switches have dampers inside of them?

quasi wasp
urban glade
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silent switches had dampeners inside on the top and bottom of the stem so its quieter

quasi wasp
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Hm

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But isn’t the whole thing about thoccy keyboards that the sounds are dampened?

urban glade
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The white on the stem are dampeners

quasi wasp
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Nice

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Oh no Internet

pulsar crow
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What do u guys think about artisan hien soft is it good?

lament raptor
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does anyone know where can i get one of these pls

unkempt dome
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Can't wait to get the Q2

quasi wasp
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:)

unkempt dome
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Amazon or ebay

quasi wasp
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Thx

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Doesn’t seem like there are a lot of 75% keycap sets

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But I can’t just take 100% sets because the spacebar and right shift key needs to be shorter and stuff

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Is there any place to get one of these fancy spacebars, but fitting the 75% layout?

urban glade
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for modern stuff - kbdfans has some in stock stuff (mainly blanks), there are some other places, and you can check for keycaps here https://kbd.news/vendors

kbd.news

Where to buy custom keyboard parts? This list of 300+ keyboard retailers, shops, stores and vendors from all over the world is the most comprehensive database you can find - probably.

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just beware most of them will be group buys/pre orders

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not much in stock

quasi wasp
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But thx

unkempt dome
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Get dsa or dsa set and put some novel keycaps where there's non standard ones

quasi wasp
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Hm maybe thx

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What is up with all those pervert styled keycaps

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And why does everyone want coiled chords?

quasi wasp
quasi wasp
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Is it possible to increase key wobble by changing keycaps too often?

quiet reef
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yeah i saw, thanks! I like all the GMMK pro features and stuff like rgb and hotswap, i kinda just want a boxier case

limpid crypt
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Why do we even use mechanical keyboards

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I'm so much faster typing on laptop keyboards lol

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And 90% of what I do on my keyboard is well... typing

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So it seems counterintuitive to chose a keyboard that's objectively worse

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Like look at the best typists, mostly low profile keyboards or laptop keyboards

chrome raft
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printed my face onto a keycap

tall karma
quasi wasp
quasi wasp
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How do you fix a hollow sounding spacebar btw?

soft kiln
limpid crypt
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Why can't we just have a conversation about this?

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There's a reason why top typists don't use mechanical that much

limpid crypt
limpid crypt
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The general feel or how tactile mechanical is seems to be the main advantage

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Definitely feels better to type on

soft kiln
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Steve Wrona uses a mechanical keyboard as far as i remember

limpid crypt
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I think mechanical is less common though, he could be the exception, not the rule

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Everyone I know can type about 10-20wpm faster on a laptop too

tall karma
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sure if you are going for raw speed the short travel of a laptop keyboard is better
but yes, many think mechanical switches feel and sound much better. Also the hard bottom out is not great for your fingers in the long run iirc, more of a risk for rsi

limpid crypt
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Yeah I can see that

soft kiln
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Steve does use dovrak layout which has been said to be better

cobalt rose
unkempt dome
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I hate typing on a laptop / chicklet keyboard ... those suck

half bridge
hard sonnet
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awyiss

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I wanna buy a keyboard soon

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does anyone have some recommendations?

tall karma
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budget and size?

hard sonnet
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budget is around €150, but I'd prefer 100-80 as long as it's a reliable kb

half bridge
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Personally if my maximum budget were 150 euro (excluding shipping, not sure what it would be for you), I would try to go with something like the KBD67Lite to see how you like a budget custom

hard sonnet
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Yeah I don't need premium, also I don't think I want the numpad or maybe even just a 70% or whatever that one is with 60% + F keys + dedicated arrows keys + 4 home hub keys

half bridge
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TKL?

hard sonnet
hard sonnet
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Idk I watched some video about all the keyboard sizes and there was one that had only a singular vertical row with 'home' and 'end' and such, also with arrow keys crammed in

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But TKL is completely fine for me

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I run a fullsized keyboard rn, not angled

half bridge
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Personally I managed going from a full size Corsair to a custom 75%

hard sonnet
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And I still have plenty of room for my mouse so I think TKL is what I'm looking for since most manufacturers support it

half bridge
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and even that still had keys I didnt need

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TKL is your safest bet if you don't want to lose too many keys from a functionality standpoint

hard sonnet
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I'm not using the home hub but I like the dedicated arrow keys

half bridge
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(depending on what you do with it)

hard sonnet
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I just game and watch yt

half bridge
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Did you want to get something you could modify?

hard sonnet
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And I don't use the functionalities that come with my fullsize keyboard because I honestly don't know how and don't value my time that much so I just use my mouse

hard sonnet
half bridge
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Oh so you want something prebuilt in other words then

hard sonnet
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Yeah a keyboard preferably :)

half bridge
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well if you want something thats pretty basic and not too expensive you can try keychron

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They have stuff listed on Amazon and their own site

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not sure which will be cheaper to ship to you so I'd check both

hard sonnet
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Ahyes I was looking at Keychron boards the other day, but I wasn't sure if it was a reliable brand

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And I didn't really find my way around the website not gonna lie

half bridge
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Want me to just send you a link to a TKL?

hard sonnet
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I'm in the Netherlands, I'm quite certain Keychron doesn't have a production line nearby, unless it's in Germany

hard sonnet
half bridge
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Not sure if they allow links in this channel so I'll PM it to you

hard sonnet
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Oh okay ty

half bridge
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👌

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Happy to help :))

sharp marlin
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Idk why ants are eating away at the silicone membrane of my keyboard. Does anybody know why? I never ate near my PC

sullen horizon
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Wtf

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You should probably get rid of it and also place ant traps around your space

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You probably have an ant issue on top of whatever the heck they’re attracted to

ionic island
tall karma
cosmic quarry
clear socket
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Anyone know of a good website that does custom keyboards?

ionic island
pallid trout
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Good companies can make bad products.
Bad companies can make good products.

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It's all case-by-case

quasi wasp
quasi wasp
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I feel like it is kinda weird that many keyboard enthusiast see the thocc as OBJECTIVELY the best sound

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Also that any keyboard that doesn't sound good to them is trash

pallid trout
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There's no way to scientifically prove "thocc" is the one true sound to strive for unless you get some mass controlled survey.

unkempt dome
quasi wasp
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Well the feedback is there, tho

soft kiln
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i dont like them cause they feel mushy

unkempt dome
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Yeah if you call it feedback ... as much feedback as cherry brown

quasi wasp
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More Feedback than any linear imo

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You instantly feel it when they are actuated

unkempt dome
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Well I also don't like linear so

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But laptop keyboard are even worse

quasi wasp
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Did anyone try to put foam inside a spacebar keycap yet?

quasi wasp
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Because I might try that to eliminate a certain resonance which I KNOW comes from the keycap

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And why is barely anyone talking about the Kailh Box Reds? Aren't they pretty cheap and not in need of any lubing?

royal patrol
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linear supremacy

final belfry
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what do you think is a good alternative to something like MX blues? I really like the clicky sound, but don't like the "flat" and light feel of blues. I like the browns and also atm using romero-g that are brown-like, but i don't like the sound of either of those. romero-g is loud but not in a good way kind of loud. the feel is probably my favorite tough. I just miss the clicky sound

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so what would be a mx blue alternative that feels a bit more "heavier"? normal blues are just a little too flat and empty feeling to me

gilded gyro
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I mean if you like romer-g then idk what to recommend

gilded gyro
quasi wasp
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@final belfry @gilded gyro but keep in mind that clickbar switches can actuate without clicking

ionic briar
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they actuate before the click event yea

final belfry
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I just miss a bit more heaviness on the cherry mx blues

gilded gyro
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then go gateron green

final belfry
final belfry
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is there even a retail keyboard that comes with these I could buy?

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I don't want to manually install the switches DennisWut

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so chery mx green could work as well?

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wow the spacebar sounds disgusting, even more than on my blue

chrome raft
chrome raft
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and there both tactile

final belfry
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to me it's just that I'm ussually slamming my blues very hard and they start feeling a bit empty and flat

chrome raft
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ok

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then add some lube

final belfry
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lol, it's probably not helping I've been using brown/romero-g at home and blues at work, so every day I am switching between the two

chrome raft
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cherry greens u need up to 105g of force

final belfry
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that is actually a lot

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meh I think I'm probably just missing the bump

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as always, it's one of the hardest choices to mankind because both are great in their own way

chrome raft
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u can spring swap ur blues

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or lube them

final belfry
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you're really serious with that lube?

chrome raft
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and u can spring swap

hard sonnet
# pallid trout Don't buy based on brand.

Oh no I get some products can be tested worse even from a good brand, I just mean that having a reliable company to help me when the product defects or anything like that will always be a big factor for me when buying a product

hard sonnet
chrome raft
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varmilo is overpriced

hard sonnet
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Then I hope they have good customer support :)

chrome raft
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idk about customer support but there overpriced

hard sonnet
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Oki

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Can someone help me find the right keyboard?

chrome raft
hard sonnet
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I want an 80% or 75% keyboard, €100 budget, custom or prebuilt, no need for wireless

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I was thinking of the Keychron K8-A3 but the shipping is €42 to europe

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Also the K8 is optionally wireless, which obviously costs more then what I need to pay for what I'm looking for

chrome raft
hard sonnet
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Oh

chrome raft
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yeah

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if u dont need wireless u cant get boards that have better keycaps, better stabs or better switches

hard sonnet
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But not from Keychron?

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So Durgod and Leopold is where I should look next?

chrome raft
hard sonnet
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Or what brands/specific products would you recommend?

chrome raft
hard sonnet
chrome raft
hard sonnet
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But it's not sold in my country unlike the K8

hard sonnet
chrome raft
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ok

hard sonnet
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And yeah I only play games and watch yt with it

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And yes I value the arrow keys for yt :p

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And for video editing actually if I ever get into that again

chrome raft
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do u need numpad

hard sonnet
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Nah

chrome raft
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ok then u should get tkl not 75% or 80%

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if u have space

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much easier to use and u dont need to learn how to use

hard sonnet
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Isn't 80% the same as TKL?

chrome raft
hard sonnet
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75% is also with arrow keys, right?

chrome raft
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like the left shift is cramped

hard sonnet
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Ooh okay

chrome raft
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there is a learning curve to 75%

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but 80% is just ur standard regular keyboard

hard sonnet
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Hmm yeah that'll be for me then

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I don't even need the extra space from TKL anyways, I just don't feel like paying for the numpad

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Do you have TKL recommendations?

chrome raft
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im finding

hard sonnet
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:) ty

chrome raft
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what colour keycaps u want

hard sonnet
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I don't care, maybe black/blue/grey/white

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I like the color scheme on the Keychron K2, with White, Black and Red

chrome raft
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do you need hotswap

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like do you want to be able to replace your switches very easily

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like without soldering

hard sonnet
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Yeah I think I was linear wasd, shift and ctrl keys and the rest tactile

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Ty zenith already explained what hotswap is :)

chrome raft
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yes or no do you need hotswap

hard sonnet
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Yes, because I want tactile and linear switches

chrome raft
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ok thanks

hard sonnet
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No u

chrome raft
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hotswap is very hard to find tho lol

hard sonnet
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Ohhh

chrome raft
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ok what do you use ur keyboard for

hard sonnet
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Then I'm not actually sure whether I want linear or tactile

chrome raft
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gaming typing or both

hard sonnet
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Gaming

chrome raft
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only gaming

hard sonnet
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Yeah I don't need to type comfortably, although actually I do care about the tactile switches when typing ok I did not thunk this through

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Gaming and typing is the answer

chrome raft
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so you do care about typing

dull ore
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If you don't really care what it feels like, Tactile
If you wanna go for a safe bet, Linear

chrome raft
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are you very space limited

chrome raft
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some people hate linear for typing

hard sonnet
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I'm not space limited, I use my fullsize not slanted

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Or angled

dull ore
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A linear is easy enough

chrome raft
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they would rather chose an average tactile over a good linear

hard sonnet
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Oh I think I have tactile rn and it feels nice, but after long time it gets annoying

chrome raft
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do you care about noise

hard sonnet
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Yeah I want red or brown

chrome raft
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so ur moderatly noise sensitive

hard sonnet
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I prefer the tactile feeling, I don't like the effortlessness of linear when typing

chrome raft
hard sonnet
chrome raft
hard sonnet
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Yas

chrome raft
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do you want a heavy switch

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like a switch u need to press very hard on

hard sonnet
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I like to hear a little feedback when clicking, but I tried blues and I don't like that

chrome raft
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ok do you want a light, moderate or heavy switch

hard sonnet
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I kinda like the heavy switches for typing, but for gaming I don't want it because that makes me really slow and it makes my fingers sore

hard sonnet
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Or both

chrome raft
hard sonnet
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Tactile mostly, but with linear QWEASD and Shift and Ctrl

chrome raft
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ok cool so you want a moderatly heavy switch

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or u want to do some spring swapping

hard sonnet
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Oh no that's scary

chrome raft
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ok so you just want a medium weight switch

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not too heavy not too light

hard sonnet
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I guess, but preferably hotswap

chrome raft
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ok

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black, white or colourful keycaps

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or u dont care

hard sonnet
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Not colourful :)

chrome raft
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black or white

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like what u prefer

hard sonnet
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Don't really care, or don't know yet

chrome raft
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trust me it makes a difference

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like you dont want a white keyboard in a dark room

hard sonnet
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I'm buying a new pc and am not sure whether the case is gonna be black or white

upbeat kayak
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i remember being recommenced a keyboard here a while back i and i dont remember the name
it was 60% had blue click switches and was about £40 does anyone have any ideas

chrome raft
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is this ok with cherry browns

hard sonnet
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Ooh yeah thatlooks good

chrome raft
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ok sure

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there u go

fickle belfry
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The switches choice is really a personal preference imo.

upbeat kayak
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i think u right

chrome raft
hard sonnet
chrome raft
hard sonnet
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True hehe

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Okay thanks for the help!!

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I'm not sure which one I want yet but I'll save this one

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Tyouu

chrome raft
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np

hard sonnet
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I found an even better option for me than the K8 with Gateron brown and white light, it's the K8 with Keychron optical (which is a risk I'm interested in taking) with rgb backlighting, because I think I want a nice brown/red theme for my setup later

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Also with the black pc case and orange/brown/dark green themed rgb

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Maybe even a noctua gpu if they keep making those :))

hard sonnet
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Noctua colaborated with AMD iirc, and the gpu had the classic brown fans

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Or Asus

chrome raft
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ok well noctua sells fans

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not gpus

hard sonnet
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Iknoww but I think I'm gonna buy the 4000x case and I probably won't need any more fand with that

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I might get a noctua cpu cooler though

chrome raft
hard sonnet
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Jayztwocents has two videos from this month featuring the Noctua gpu

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In the second one he ripped the fans of lol

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Anyhow, I think I might buy the Keychron board with Keychron Optical switches, unless y'all know about some disadvantages I should hear about?

hard sonnet
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Because they're pretty new?

chrome raft
ionic briar
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not really

hard sonnet
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I think it'll be fine

ionic briar
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its more you are limited to one brand of switches only

hard sonnet
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Oh

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I thought it was compatible with mx

ionic briar
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due to the current state of optical where every one and their mom has a different proprietary execution on the optical part

hard sonnet
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I see

ionic briar
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the keycap mount are all cherry mx yea

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but like, you cant swap in outemu opticals into a board that previously hosted gateron opticals

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unless the construction is exactly the same

hard sonnet
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Ahwell I don't mind getting all my switches from Keychron, although I gotta find out if I can ever get them in europe without paying €42 shipping

ionic briar
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which country are you in?

hard sonnet
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Netherlands

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I can get the prebuilt keyboard here on Alternate

ionic briar
hard sonnet
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Ahyes I saw the ergowerken ones, but they were €12 for 12 instead of €4 for 12

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So I thought that was kind of a scam

ionic briar
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ah, for the switches?

hard sonnet
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Yup

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But actually that's fine because I might not even need to swap any

ionic briar
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theres also a netherlands keyboard brand called wooting

hard sonnet
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I'm gonna try the brown opticals first, then consider swapping my wasd with linear, and then I would even have spare linear and opticals if any other switches break

ionic briar
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their hall effect keyboards are something pretty interesting imo

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if you are looking at optical switches

hard sonnet
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Oh my god I saw Wootingkb on instagram and it looked amazing, but I thought it was a complete scam because well, it was an instagram ad

ionic briar
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chyrosran22 featured them in a review

hard sonnet
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Oh sick they're legit?

ionic briar
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a netherland keyboard reviewer btw

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and yea

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they are legit

hard sonnet
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Imma go find a hall keyboard rn then, thanks!

ionic briar
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you do def pay for the niche of hall effect switches
but the switch itself is way smoother than any contact based design stock to stock

hard sonnet
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They're out of stock and the only boards they're building or going to be buulding from now on are the Wooting Two HE fullsize or 60% version, neither of which is the size I'm looking for sadly

ionic briar
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yea thats sadge

hard sonnet
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Also those colours mildly disgust me, but I would actually love to try their LE switches if they bring out a black TKL board and have it in stock by next week😅

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Okay thanks for the help either way, I think I'll just buy the hotswappable Keychron optical browns, and then hope they don't break +hope they feel nice enough for gaming so I won't mant to buy an extra set of linear opticals

ionic briar
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yea

chrome raft
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its 60% + black

ionic briar
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thats why all wooting lineup is not suited for him

chrome raft
chrome raft
quasi wasp
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How precise are analog optical switches? Hall effect switches won’t work in my idea because of the electromagnets used for actuation

chrome raft
quasi wasp
chrome raft
quasi wasp
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What do you mean?

chrome raft
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mechanical is using mechanical stuff and analog is using light

quasi wasp
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There are analog Hall effect switches too

chrome raft
quasi wasp
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Also I could imagine analog mechanical switches

quasi wasp
chrome raft
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non-modular

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expensive

quasi wasp
chrome raft
quasi wasp
chrome raft
quasi wasp
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They do not detect strokes sometimes?

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All of them?

boreal rivet
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adjective
adjective: analog
relating to or using signals or information represented by a continuously variable physical quantity such as spatial position, voltage, etc.
"analogue signals"
(of a clock or watch) showing the time by means of hands or a pointer rather than displayed digits.
not involving or relating to the use of computer technology, as a contrast to a digital counterpart.
"old-school analogue paper map skills"

chrome raft
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theoretically they can be better but currently there no

chrome raft
quasi wasp
chrome raft
quasi wasp
chrome raft
quasi wasp
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How are you so sure about that?

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Btw optical gaterons are rated for twice the amount of key strokes

chrome raft
#

im certain about that

quasi wasp
#

That's pretty much up to taste, probably, tho

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And I NEED analog switches for this application

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Otherwise variable force isn't really doable in a way that makes sense

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Btw, what layout has a better market for custom builds: 60% or 65%?

quasi wasp
quasi wasp
chrome raft
quasi wasp
#

hm alright thx

quasi wasp
#

Because I would really like to have a wireless one

boreal rivet
#

No it's 75%

quasi wasp
boreal rivet
#

Nvm

quasi wasp
#

The thing is that I already have a 75%

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Do you find 6 key rollover limiting in any way?

unkempt dome
#

When do you press 6 keys at the exact same time on a keyboard ?

quasi wasp
#

In DAWs for example

unkempt dome
#

Don't know what daws is

quasi wasp
#

Digital Audio Workstation

unkempt dome
#

Never used that

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Also does it limit you when you use it ?

quasi wasp
unkempt dome
#

Well that's about the answer to your question I guess

quasi wasp
#

The 4KO of my laptop keyboard limited me

quasi wasp
unkempt dome
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If you don't use the only thing that had more than 6key press at the exact same time on a keyboard then I guess 6key rollover is enough

quasi wasp
#

No I don’t use anything under NKRO

quasi wasp
quasi wasp
#

Why are there no custom keyboard cases with wireless capabilities?

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And does the GMMK Pro really sound bad?

fickle belfry
quasi wasp
#

*typo

fickle belfry
#

Did see some comments on them, but on the pre-built versions. These are barebones. Case ,PCB and stabs. Would get new stabs for sure, but the rest is up to your choice of switches and caps.

quasi wasp
#

It’s made out of plastic, right? Is that an issue?

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Would it sound better if it was made out aluminium?

chrome raft
#

aluminum is more durable and more premium but acrylic is better for rgb and thocc

potent void
#

Uh.. nice name

chrome raft
potent void
#

Seems ios has defeated it

chrome raft
jaunty parrot
unkempt dome
unkempt dome
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Shine through the case

chrome raft
#

translucent

unkempt dome
#

I like the sound of plastic better but it's preference

quasi wasp
unkempt dome
#

Will try those this week end

chrome raft
quasi wasp
#

That case isn't out of acrylic, right?

chrome raft
quasi wasp
#

But why do you bring it up, then

chrome raft
quasi wasp
#

no worries

fickle belfry
#

@unkempt dome Hope they feel and sound as good as they look 😎

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@quasi wasp my case is made of 3 acrylic layers. Synthetic materials do produce a more thoccy sound then metal cases unless it's an hollow case without sound dempener materials to fill the void.

hard sonnet
#

Are Cherry keyboards any good?

urban glade
#

which

hard sonnet
#

Alternate is offering €40 and €30 discounts for my country rn

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Lemme see

urban glade
#

most of the modern ones i'd probably say aren't

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but there are good vintage ones

hard sonnet
#

Cherry G80-3000S TKL

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Is it goood?

chrome raft
slim crater
#

Thoughts on Apex Pro TKL and G915 TLK? I’m looking for a new TLK keyboard

fickle belfry
slim crater
#

I’ve had my current keyboard for 2 years and I’m looking for a upgrade, looking to get something nice 100-200 USD range that will last line

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For schoolwork/gaming

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I’m thinking about maybe a custom keyboard but I’m not sure where to start

slim crater
#

Also frames like this

pallid trout
#

Low-profile?

slim crater
#

Yeah, I’m not sure what’s it’s called but I prefer it

pallid trout
#

Yeah low-profile bezel

fickle belfry
ionic island
#

whats the difference between 205g2 and 205g0

ionic briar
ionic island
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Is it good for linears

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Because I ordered 205g0 but got 205g2 instead

ionic briar
quasi wasp
#

Gateron yellow vs black?

ionic briar
#

Weighting preference, gat yellow is lighter than gat black

quasi wasp
#

But they feel about as smooth?

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The black ones are so much cheaper somehow

ionic island
#

How much

quasi wasp
#

Like 1/3 the price lmao

ionic briar
#

Weird.
Where are you buying from?

quasi wasp
#

Germany

ionic briar
#

Your gateron black vendor is cheaper than this?

ionic island
#

whats the best way to lube a switch

#

i tried lubing a broken one but it still sounded scratchy

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nvm i used the wrong one

#

HOLY SHI- IT SOUNDS GOOD

hollow kettle
#

😋

quasi wasp
#

Compared to that offer

quasi wasp
#

BTW is it a Fire hazard to foam mod Bluetooth keyboards?

fierce chasm
#

i mean theres like a 0.2% chance it will happen but eh

#

unless if it is from wish

quasi wasp
fierce chasm
#

yup

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i mean if you got it from wish than it would be a bomb

quasi wasp
fierce chasm
#

otherwise yea as long as you dont frick up wires

fierce chasm
#

eh im not good at math

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there will be a risk

quasi wasp
#

I don’t want a risk

#

Why can’t I have nice things ☹️

fierce chasm
#

i mean you are moding stuff

#

bent switch pins are common believe it or not, but those are made out of the purest metal ever you could just punch them back so they look non bent

quasi wasp
#

I would only get another keyboard if it was wireless

fierce chasm
#

aight ima go see you when nivida makes a cpu

#

just dont punch a hole thru the battery you should be fine

quasi wasp
#

Lmao

fierce chasm
#

mb

quasi wasp
#

Oh i c

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Aren’t they already doing this?

fierce chasm
#

nvidia cpus ?

quasi wasp
#

Yeah

fierce chasm
#

for ai or smth idk but like a cpu cpu like amd intel kind

quasi wasp
#

Hm alright

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Is it impossible to get a thoccy keyboard without foam modding it?

fierce chasm
#

you can but reverb with make it sound less thoccy

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it depends on alot of things

quasi wasp
#

So I can’t have nice things

fierce chasm
#

work for it

quasi wasp
#

How?

fierce chasm
#

lube 104 switch

quasi wasp
quasi wasp
fierce chasm
#

every single leaf

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you gotta lube da switch man

quasi wasp
#

But the foam?

fierce chasm
#

make it sound good and smooth

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foam yes it will effect it

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but adding foam doesnt make a razer green turn into black inks

quasi wasp
quasi wasp
fierce chasm
#

dude just idk anything about how battery kaboom man just dont take my word in explosives

fierce chasm
quasi wasp
#

Are black inks your favorites?

fierce chasm
#

yup

quasi wasp
#

Why? I don’t know too many switches

fierce chasm
#

you are going in the rabbit hole rn

#

this is my warning

#

(it cost a kidney)

#

anyways yes blackinks good smooth

quasi wasp
#

Oh dear

quasi wasp
#

More so than gateron yellows?

#

Because black inks are much cheaper here

fierce chasm
#

since when is blakc inks cheaper

#

what

#

i mean switches are kinda a me thing

#

you might like yellows more

#

but since inks are cheaper then yea go for it

quasi wasp
#

Oh no wait it’s cheaper because it’s on banggood

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I never bought from there

#

The prices are extremely sus to me

fierce chasm
#

buget build get yellows

#

bang for buck good switches for money

quasi wasp
fierce chasm
#

hot swap ?

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wait im dumb

quasi wasp
fierce chasm
#

man u in germany? (brain not work)

quasi wasp
#

Yup

fierce chasm
#

health care must be good there

quasi wasp
#

It is haha

#

Mostly

#

The internet is kinda bad tho

fierce chasm
#

i mean 50000 dollars for a half broken pinkie or 80 ping

quasi wasp
#

Haha

#

Yeah I guess I’d rather take the 80 ping

fierce chasm
#

just dont go to deep down the rabit hole and get 8 keyboards

quasi wasp
#

Yeah I don’t even know if I’m gonna get a second one

#

Actually content already with the one I currently have

#

Although most people here would probably hate it

#

(Unmodded AKKO 3084 9009 wired with Cherry MX blue switches)

#

Maybe you could call my mask thing a mod tho

fierce chasm
#

i have 3

#

2 of them are local brands

quasi wasp
#

Nice

fierce chasm
#

"edra"

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1 is from mitsumi

#

super old

#

usues a ps2 connecto

#

but me like pressing on keyboard that belongs to an office that is older than me

quasi wasp
#

Noice

shell relic
#

Hyper x keyboards are pretty good

chrome raft
shell relic
#

Idk I like them

#

Overpriced? Sure. But they are pretty solid, I could wack someone in the head and it'll be fine

chrome raft
rancid sun
#

Hi, i am very new to the keyboard scene and i don't know which keyboards is good for me. I want to know if there's any keyboards that's satisfying to type in and gaming, no weird sound and good stabilitization.

gilded gyro
#

if you like Linears

chrome raft
#

or you can buy topre

#

idk if its good but i heard many people say its good

#

also are cherry mx clears any good?

gilded gyro
#

God tier linear but unlike the Wooting it's actually available?

chrome raft
gilded gyro
#

Just needs some modding

#

they're Hall Effect switches, and I'm very sure it's all of them

chrome raft
gilded gyro
#

it's all of them

#

lubed switches aren't as good as hall effect though

#

It's like comparing a ferrari to a mustang

#

and not like mustang the car

#

mustang the horse

chrome raft
gilded gyro
#

the tkl is like 150 at amazon

#

for an endgame tier linear I'd say pretty good price

chrome raft
gilded gyro
#

it's all of them

#

all of them are hall effect

rancid sun
#

So thock = 100% good?

gilded gyro
chrome raft
gilded gyro
#

or if you don't have money get one of those Akko prebuilt keyboards

#

I'd say no

#

maybe compared to like lubed higher end linears

#

that's like 150$ for just the switches

#

18 cents per piece

#
  • 87
chrome raft
#

optical switches just dont feel that good compared to a well-lubed high end mechanical switch

gilded gyro
#

they're different

chrome raft
gilded gyro
#

Yeah I put the numbers in my calculator wrong @hasty saffron

chrome raft
#

15 dollar switch testers only contain like 6 switches

gilded gyro
#

ngl idk why people like care alot about keyboard sound. As long as the stabs don't rattle and the switches don't make ping sounds you ain't hearing yourself type with like a good pair of IEMs or Headphones

#

Wooting is built very well

chrome raft
#

what idea?????

gilded gyro
#

it they have the money

#

and like the patience

rancid sun
#

I have decided, i just want a keyboard that is stable and won't do anything weird. (And keyboards that is not from "Yeah but does your spacebar sound this bad")

chrome raft
#

ok and there are about 40 different switches in each catagory

rancid sun
#

and it's not membrane

gilded gyro
#

Tecware Phantom @rancid sun

rancid sun
#

AND it has good registeration

chrome raft
#

can each feels slightly differnet

gilded gyro
#

non-dustproof Outemu, lubed stabs, like actually lubed stabs

#

good enough beginner keyb

chrome raft
#

@rancid sun ok tell me ur buget first

gilded gyro
#

for like 50$

#

Tecware Phantom is best option for beginners

#

you can even put like AKKO CS in it

#

since it's Outemu hot swap

chrome raft
#

ok then what spring does the person like

gilded gyro
#

I mean it's 49$ it wins by default at the price

chrome raft
#

and then the lube

gilded gyro
#

since like everything else doesn't even have lubed stabs

#

which it does

rancid sun
#

Alright, since my budget is unlimited (This pc and kb combo is my reward for graduating), i'd say 200 dollars max.

gilded gyro
#

How much is a polycarb kit

#

What can you get at taobao at like 49$ with Gaterons and lubed stabs?

chrome raft
#

yeah

gilded gyro
#

mw65 comes with lubed stabs?

#

oh wow that's nice

quasi wasp
#

What are the effects of a gasket mount?

#

Hm

#

I feel like the same people would find it to be bad if it only was a thing on cheap boards

quasi wasp
#

So some people?

chrome raft
#

pre lubed stabs suck

quasi wasp
chrome raft
quasi wasp
#

Doesn’t mean they suck

#

Often times people say with certain keyboards that you won’t have to lube the stabs again

quasi wasp
#

Why do people like coiled cables so much? I don't really see the point of the coil tbh

quasi wasp
#

how so?

#

I mean why not just get a cable of the same length

#

While coiled up

chrome raft
#

bragging rights

#

a coiled cable can cost upwards of 69 dollars

quasi wasp
#

hm alright

#

Why does it not get tangled up as much?

#

Because of the braiding?

boreal rivet
#

Coiled cables are only there for aesthetics

#

Completely useless

#

The coil won't even hold its shape if you stretch it

quasi wasp
#

I see thx

#

astonishing

#

Btw who thought that it would be a good idea to put play dough into your keycaps and kayboard?

#

Have fun with the crumbs all over your board in 3 weeks

quasi wasp
#

But why? The rest of the cable is an uncoiled cable

#

And how do those keyboards shown in sound test videos sound in real life?

#

But why the coil, then

#

Hm

#

I mean it makes sense that having a weight there would help

#

Doesn't have to be a coil, tho

#

hm alright thx for the info

unkempt dome
#

Well i put the akko sponge and now there's two stabilized key that have a tendency to sick down ... I'll have to check that out this week end and see if some relubing of the stabs can fix it ... maybe it's just some tolerances of the keycaps that is messed up, will also try with another keycap set

#

I can tell that those have barely no key wobble and that might be the cause of the problem specially since the switches has a box around the stem ... it's probably the stem getting stuck slightly on the housing of the switch ... well I'll have to investigate about that when I have time

#

As for the switches themselves the tactile bump is really strong ... can't really feel the second bump as what it is cause it's so small ... it feels more like a plateau than a second bump ...

#

Then again I haven't use them long enough to form a good opinion on them yet

chrome raft
#

U4t bobas dourlock v2 mixxed with cherry stabs holee modded gmk red samurai keycaps boring old usb c cable

potent void
#

That looks great

opaque granite
#

where can i find good keyboard PCB's?

quasi wasp
#

What would you think about a deskmat which exactly matches the size of your keyboard layout and has got a sizeable battery and bluetooth transceiver inside of it?

#

So that you can make any keeb wireless

chrome raft
#

Most people get deskmats because they look cool and they make you keyboard "thockier". So if there is a battery inside of it, it would make the sound uneven and weird.

quasi wasp
#

That shouldn't make any difference

chrome raft
chrome raft
#

And how would you make the keyboard connect to the bluetooth thing if its wired only.

quasi wasp
#

That you could definitely not here

quasi wasp
#

Would need its own cable so that the space suffices

#

RGB keyboards with really beefy LEDs might be an issue, tho

#

Because 5W is a considerable power draw

#

For the battery

unkempt dome
#

I don't care much for wireless keyboard specially on a desktop

urban glade
#

rgb bad

quasi wasp
#

It looks cleaner

#

And it’s handy if you haven’t got much space

chrome raft
quasi wasp
chrome raft
#

Oh

quasi wasp
#

Yeah

chrome raft
#

Here

#

I dont like the idea of the deskmat because it seems annoying to bring with your keyboard

quasi wasp
#

Where do you bring it?

chrome raft
#

no where really

#

im 13

quasi wasp
#

But I guess that it wouldn’t be THAT bad to carry

#

Better than the keyboard itself

chrome raft
#

Heres just a question

#

What would you be using the keyboard on that needs to be wireless?

#

Like maybe a phone or ipad

#

Like you could just use the keyboard on the screen.

#

And if your willing to make these I would be happy to invest!

chrome raft
#

Why do you need wireless so badly?

quasi wasp
#

It’s handy

#

Oh the mat could have hardware for macros and stuff inside it too

chrome raft
#

Yes but why would you need it if your on pc and already have a deskmat and fine with using a cable?

quasi wasp
#

Not everyone needs this

chrome raft
#

I only see it being usefull on phone or somone elses computer

quasi wasp
#

Not everyone needs to need this

chrome raft
#

ok

quasi wasp
#

But some might want it idk

quasi wasp
#

Could also have versions with integrated wrist rests

valid sigil
#

I'm considering getting the Redragon K589 to replace my current keyboard. It has hot swapable low profile Outemu switches. If I de-solder the low profile cherry switches from my old keyboard, will I be able to transplant them to the new one?

valid sigil
#

Not yet.... Why?

chrome raft
#

Ok

#

If you get it will you be planning on upgrading it?

unkempt dome
valid sigil
unkempt dome
valid sigil
unkempt dome
#

You can fit other outemu switches, akko switches and boba switches as far as I know

valid sigil
#

Currently using the LP cherry mx speed switches on the K70 LP MK2 (the layout is non-standard and the keycap stems are prone to breaking). What would you recommend that would be similar?

chrome raft
#

Just a yes or no

valid sigil
#

Probably. Only if the actuation force too stiff.

chrome raft
#

OK if its too stiff what will you do to change it?

valid sigil
#

Replace them...

chrome raft
#

Ok

#

the hotswap sockets dont work with

#

every switch

#

you can only use otomu switches

#

Mr @valid sigil

#

Do you need the full size?

valid sigil
#

Yes, I do a lot of CAD and spreadsheet work.

chrome raft
#

Oh...

chrome raft
#

Here I'll make it easyier.
1 your a gamer and spreadsheet worker.
2 you want a mechanical budget full size keyboard.
3 you are 2 and 1

chrome raft
#

what are the difference feeling wise in outemu reds and gateron reds?

#

like, do they feel mostly the same?

#

I'm thinking of getting the RK855, the tm680 I bought was broken but I did get a full refund

granite thicket
#

anyone know anything about glorious lynxes?

chrome raft
#

outmu reds might be mushyer and more scracthy

#

@chrome raft gateron reds have a lower actuation force so they will be more "GaMeRy"

#

😉

#

I'm trying to gather as much information as possible, could you please help me out?

#

last last time I bought a hot swap keyboard

#

I bought it because it was the only hotswap in a physical store near me

#

and it bit me in my behind

#

the switches are really hard to pull out

#

and once I did pull it out, I discovered the pcb is outemu only

#

I only had gaterons at hand

#

any keyboard recommendation to avoid my mistake? budget of 55-79USD, I like 65%-80% keyboard, hot swap capability, ability to remove pcb from case, and gateron pcb is deeply preferable, I live in southeast asia

clear socket
#

Anyone know a good custom keyboard website that builds it for you?

agile minnow
#

Are all switches the same swap-wise, I have a outemu keyboard and wanted to swap them out for cherrymx switches, will they physically fit?

unkempt dome
unkempt dome
#

Cherry won't fit outemu hotswap socket

#

Get akko or boba switches to fit in the outemu hotswap socket

chrome raft
#

I decided I shall get the tecware b68, there's one available in my city so I don't have to worry about shipping, thanks anyway

#

im gonna get akko pinks for my k552

#

oh hey

#

long time no chat

#

yea

#

hello there

#

i now have nitro

granite thicket
#

anyone know anything about glorious lynxes?

chrome raft
#

any personal thoughts on it?

gilded gyro
#

5 pin universal

gilded gyro
#

nothing wrong with it

#

Personally I like the Tecware Phantom Elite

#

but up to you, if you like 68 keys over say TKL then yeah it's great

chrome raft
gilded gyro
#

Yes

ionic island
#

does lubing switches reduce case ping

quasi wasp
boreal rivet
#

What the hell are you saying

quasi wasp
#

If the wave which is reverberated is different the reverberation will sound different too

#

What differentiates a bad stab from a good stab?

ionic briar
boreal rivet
chrome raft
high mauve
#

hello

#

does anyone have a razer keyboard?

#

bcs mine , after i lock windows and unlock it after a couple of minutes the lightning is stuck and razer synapse no longer shows the keyboard, but it still works. And to make the lightning work again , i have to unplug then plug again. This problem does not always happen.

chrome raft
boreal rivet
#

they charge 40 euro to put some switches into hotswap sockets and screw in the pcb KEKW

#

its so easy to diy now, you dont even need to buy a soldering iron nowadays

boreal rivet
#

what makes a stab good is if it comes preclipped and if the wire is balanced properly

quasi wasp
boreal rivet
#

all stabilisers when tuned enough will not rattle

violet geyser
#

should i buy gateron tellows over akko rose reds, and how much the shipping costs from akko's website?(i live in israel)

#

ok what about shipping

#

helpful

boreal rivet
#

you want people to hand everything to you on a golden platter or something?

violet geyser
#

???????

#

just asking for a price

boreal rivet
#

and how would we know????

violet geyser
#

nvm not needing you dickhead atidude

#

your

boreal rivet
#

LOL 👌

#

you don't know how to check for shipping to your country so you need us to feed it to you? KEKW

pallid trout
#

Honestly it's just easier to see the shipping price by entering the shop's checkout page and looking up shipping there.

boreal rivet
#

stop you're blowing his mind rn

violet geyser
boreal rivet
#

and thats our problem?

gilded gyro
#

If they don't ship to Israel maybe try aliexpress

boreal rivet
#

if they cant ship to you then they can't

gilded gyro
#

or Just get a HyperX Origins at that point

boreal rivet
#

what did you expect us to do

#

convince them to do so?

gilded gyro
#

better than stock gat yellows

pallid trout
# violet geyser lol

Well then we can't tell you what shipping will cost. You will have to find a shop who can ship to you.

violet geyser
gilded gyro
#

kk

narrow frost
#

Hey so this is keyboard connected but I noticed that because I have fairly large hands I use my left hand for the VAST majority of letters on my keyboard while my right hand is only responsible for jklmniop

#

Do you guys know of any platform or something for practicing "proper" typing?

chrome raft
#

just look up learntotype

#

it shoud show up something

quasi wasp
boreal rivet
#

but you did?

urban glade
quasi wasp
quasi wasp
boreal rivet
#

Damn it's like you could've said "lubing the springs while probably make it sound different" instead of "The case ping would probably sound different because the input signal is different"

quasi wasp
#

Why?

#

Why is this so important to you?

boreal rivet
#

Because its the simplest method of articulating your opinion?

boreal rivet
#

Everyone can see you're being a poser but you keep going

chrome raft
quasi wasp
#

I‘m just gonna ignore your comments regarding this matter, this is absolutely ridiculous @boreal rivet

boreal rivet
#

Do what you want, I really don't care 🤷‍♂️.

quasi wasp
#

Guess I found the drama queen of this server

chrome raft
#

Yup

chrome raft
#

I can put hyperx pudding keycaps on a coolermaster mk750 right

#

Yes you can

#

I have those keycaps but a different keyboard, They should be able to fit

chrome raft