#peripherals

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main narwhal
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man

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my wooting sounds rattly af coz of the plastic case

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bottom out just sounds...rattly

main narwhal
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it's a pun

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oh

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it makes less sense without the characters

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coz this discord does that autotrasnalte thing

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李小龍包 lol

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you thinking of 小籠饅

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xiao long bao

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李小龍 is bruce lee

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put the two together = dumb pun

gilded topaz
main narwhal
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:p

chrome raft
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did i hear biden??? linusCringe

chrome raft
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whats yalls recomendation for switches for a 108 key keyboard

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already chose the keycaps

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and maybe the PCB and stuff also

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hot swappable cause first time

keen oriole
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I swear by WASD keyboards. I use the code v2/v3 with cherry mx clears. This is for programming though. It’s expensive. I can justify a $200 keyboard because I literally make my livelihood from it. If it was just for gaming, not so much.

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They do have cheaper versions though and open box discounts

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And tons of different switch options. I don’t think the codes are easily hot swapable but I think other models are

chrome raft
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WASD keyboards?

keen oriole
chrome raft
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those r expensive af tho

keen oriole
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They’re kind of a boutique manufacturer. Again. Expensive

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Yeah, they are.

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Honestly you probably won’t go wrong with a Corsair base

chrome raft
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corsair keebs suck?

keen oriole
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If you can’t find one with the switches you want just get a hot swap PCB and it’ll be fine

chrome raft
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yea

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i somewhat want a wireless keyboard also just bc i may end up using this hooked up to a TV

keen oriole
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I have a Corsair with cherry reds and it’s great. It’s the one with the foam under thing and a mousepad on it.

chrome raft
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oh yea

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i got the razer chroma crysona rn

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i dont reccomend gamer keebs from name brands

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ok why is that

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most of the people that are veterans on this channel would agree

chrome raft
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2: not very good build quality

keen oriole
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I’ve never had issues with Corsair keyboards. Razer stay away from though.

chrome raft
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corsair keebs are terrible compaired to cheaper alternitaves iirc

keen oriole
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Those and wasd are the only one I’ve really used though.

chrome raft
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wait for a actual keeb nerd to show up

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i havent had many issues with mine so far and i got it as a gift from my grandfather who prob has no idea about this world of DIY keyboards

keen oriole
chrome raft
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i mean it really comes down to preference

keen oriole
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The trick is to find good enough quality with good enough customer support and good enough price.

chrome raft
keen oriole
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I’m definitely not a keyboard enthusiast. I found what I like and I don’t need to keep trying new ones.

chrome raft
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just a really nice keeb with modding out the wazoo

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sorry if im interupting your keebs talk but is this a good pcb and housing or no https://epomaker.com/collections/full-size-104/products/epomaker-gk108s-kit

epomaker

100% Layout Hotswap Keyboard Kit GK108/GK108S kit is designed with the full layout to be more suitable for traditional typing habit. It is equipped with hot swappable terminals, with which you could install the switches directly without soldering. It’s compatible with Cherry MX switches, Kailh switches and Gateron swit

chrome raft
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and epomaker makes some good stuff

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ok

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also keychron

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so then ill prob get those and some switches

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the k10 is full size iirc

keen oriole
chrome raft
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legit

keen oriole
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I have no problem recommending it, but I also suspect you’ll find something you would like better.

chrome raft
chrome raft
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so now im on the hunt for what keycaps

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check out the keychron lineup tho

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ok

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ill check that rn

keen oriole
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It’s fantastic for typing. It isn’t an “ergo” keyboard but it is designed well.

chrome raft
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they have gaterons so really smooth

keen oriole
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Heavy as a damn brick too. I could beat s zombie to death and plug it back in and I’d expect it to still work.

chrome raft
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lol

chrome raft
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i would just get keycaps

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and im all good

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akko makes some good ones

keen oriole
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That sounds like a good deal to me. Keycaps can be pricy though

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Code isn’t hotswap or RGB or wireless.

chrome raft
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ok

keen oriole
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So if those are big wants, I’d say that board sounds better.

chrome raft
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those things are nice tho

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yea ill be paying like $50 or smth crazy for 108 keycaps

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like i dont need rgb

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but i rlly prefer wireless and hotswap

keen oriole
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I don’t need wireless because If I’m working, I’m at my desk where my keyboard is. It has backlighting which is enough for me. I don’t need unicorn puke personally. Hotswap would be a plus but again, meh, I know I like what I have and I don’t personally have a need to try out bunches of different switches. I probably would sometimes if I could though.

chrome raft
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i would use the RGB for white or to match the LEDS in my room so it doesnt look odd

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or maybe purple backlight for the purple keycaps

keen oriole
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I have a separate wireless keyboard I keep near my couch and tv. So I do see the benefit. I just don’t need it for this one if that makes sense.

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That would look pretty good. Purple is a good color.

chrome raft
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i want wireless cause less cables and also so i can use it with TV PC

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yea ima prob be using the joker keycaps from ducky

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well they r purple and blue

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and pink

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but still

keen oriole
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Makes sense

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It’s a trade off between cables and batteries/charging.

chrome raft
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yea

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i wish i could just build 2 keyboards so i can have 1 at desk and 1 for tv pc but the prices on these things

keen oriole
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Yeah, absolutely.

chrome raft
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like i might just buy like a gk61 for my pc and use the built one for my tv pc

keen oriole
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Can always be a future thing though!

chrome raft
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yea

keen oriole
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Anyway I need to sleep so I can wake up and work so I have money to pay for a place to sleep. It’s a vicious cycle. Hopefully this has helped!

chrome raft
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yea i got to sleep cause i got classes bright and early tmr morning and its already 2am for me

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so gn

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thanks for all the help

keen oriole
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Glad to!

chrome raft
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its 1 for me and i dont think of sleeping any time soon hehe

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drummeur if i have any more questions is it ok if i ping you or dm you (they prob wont be for hours if not days)

ionic island
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105g0 on springs for linear switchess?

chrome raft
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for bag lubing yes

ionic island
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what about brush lubing?

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idk what its called lmao

chrome raft
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id use 205g0 for that

ionic island
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ok

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thanks o much

chrome raft
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np

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have fun and dont overlube

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remember less is more

urban glade
ionic island
quasi wasp
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What do you think about the ergodox?

sudden flicker
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quick question but overall what switches are considerd best, and with housings does it matter what housing the switch is in?

hoary trail
sudden flicker
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prefferance i havn't build up due to that, but so far its tactile kinda like the browns but bit heavyer bit smoother and silent thats what id immagine looking for

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so id probably lube whatever i end up going for

boreal rivet
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topper

urban glade
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^

chrome raft
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Someone help me choose a keyboard

unkempt dome
ionic briar
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dont forget gazzew silent boba

rugged nexus
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I'm learning German and speaking a lot more of it online

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If I upgrade my keyboard ever I'm thinking of getting a German one

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Would the differences between it and English QWERTY be too hard to get used to?

pallid trout
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It really depends on the person.

rugged nexus
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Wdym?

pallid trout
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Some people acclimate to different conditions better than others. If I found out my keys were swapped around then, depending on which keys were switched, it would take a bit for me to get used to. But some people are very quick to readjust their muscle memory, others, not so much.

rugged nexus
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Ah

pallid trout
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I don't know the German layout, so I can't really say too much. I'll just say that you'll have to try it for yourself.

rugged nexus
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Sure

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Thanks :)

pallid trout
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Happy to help.

rugged nexus
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I'll look into it

woeful lantern
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Tbh you can use any layout without a special keyboard I was typing Belgian azerty on a French azerty board and now use azerty boards to type qwerty

quasi wasp
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My lshift key is making a weird springy and continuous noise when I press and release it lightly, what’s up with that?

chrome raft
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It arrived!!

sleek bronze
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Any alternatives to the keychron k2 or Q1?

gilded gyro
sleek bronze
gilded gyro
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The GMMKs have ISO versions @sleek bronze

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if you want a linear keyboard the Apex Pro I think comes in ISO

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from steelseries

potent void
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The gmmk is hot swap you can put any switch you want i there

potent void
sleek bronze
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I'll look at the gmmk iso ty

chrome raft
granite thicket
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can anyone speak to glorious lynx switches?

sleek bronze
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Yeah didn't know there was an iso version for the gmmk pro

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Indeed it's the direct competitor of the Q1 apparently
And the RK84 a direct competitor of the K2

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I like options

granite thicket
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what would you recommend for switches that are high quality?

sleek bronze
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Oh an btw I have a keychron K2 which is dead cuz of kitty, I asked if I could buy just the PCB, I'll see what they tell me

granite thicket
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is keychron a better build quality then the gmmk?

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do I want my keyboard to be flexible?

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I dont see why I would 😅

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I've only had razer keyboards, im looking for something with a bit better build quality

sleek bronze
sleek bronze
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Buy yeah considering that a big selling point of those keyboards is the flex it's a plus for the keychron technically

granite thicket
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muted = quiet though right?

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I'm kind of looking to be a bit more quiet though

sleek bronze
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Also I think that price wide keychron is more interesting for EU people

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Price wise *

granite thicket
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i started with a varmilo miya pro and now im looking at gmmk and keychron since it gets brought up a lot

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i dont want fine though I want good 😛

sleek bronze
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Btw are there any 0-150$ split keyboards ?
Or do I have to go the full custom way?

granite thicket
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but is it better to have hot swappable or no?

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I would rather hotswap but the miya pro is prebuilt so I wont have to touch it again

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nah, razer blackwidow v2

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I think it may be a fun hobby, I like building my own pc's and stuff. honestly id be looking for a full kb anyways

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yea

ionic briar
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Don't forget the tm980

granite thicket
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and the gmmk right?

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its just called the gmmk is the one im looking at

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cause of build quality or?

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yeah its just hard to tell whats fact or crap

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thanks for all your help!

urban glade
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This is the only good suggestion

granite thicket
urban glade
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It’s not topre

granite thicket
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topre?

urban glade
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Fc980c has topre switches

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They’re really nice

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I have an fc980m it’s not “bad” but it’s not even close to any topre keyboard

granite thicket
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I've only had razer products so idk what that means

urban glade
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The switch is the bit inside each key you press and it’s the main thing that determines if it’s linear or tactile or clicky, how hard it is to press

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Topre switches are really nice to type on

granite thicket
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what about to game?

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cause im looking for a keyboard that can do both: coding, and gaming

urban glade
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I don’t game so can’t comment there

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But I don’t think any keyboard really is bad for any specific thing

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Its preference

granite thicket
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i just dont want to get stuck into buying another razer product because I feel like I go through them too fast

final belfry
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Do you guys have any ideas how to clean/restore this worn yellowish hue?

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the material is rubber-like. I ussually use alcohol wipes or hand sanitiser to clean my peripherals, but nothing of this sort works here

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it used to be gray

granite thicket
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but dont I want tactile for gaming?

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ive never had it idk everything im reading says linear is for gaming not tactile sorry

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shoot, well that doesnt make anything easier on me XD

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I have only used razer keyboards, right now im on a blackwidow v2 and I like it a lot it's just a little too noisy

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razer yellows

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Yeah I like it a lot, the feel is nice and smooth I just get told quite frequently that its really loud.

final belfry
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Clicky types or bumpy types for life. No matter if gaming or typing

granite thicket
final belfry
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Its just not for me. I need the response

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Using logitech switches now romero-g tactile

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My favorite so far, like em even better than mx browns and blues

granite thicket
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I wish I could test the feel for free XD

potent void
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You could get a switch tester for like $20

granite thicket
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Amazon?

potent void
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Yeah there are some on Amazon

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Not every tactile switch is equal so the one you get wont reflect them all. Its just to get a feel for what it will be

final belfry
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Why? I really like them

granite thicket
potent void
final belfry
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G413 was one of the most asthethically pleasing kbs for me and I really liked the switches

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Sorry im starting to repeat myself

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I know! Totally true

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Honestly I couldnt find a keyboard I would really like visually and G413 was it for me. Just stylish enough but still subtle. Also the led engravings are really well made, it was the selling point for me

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Like barely any light pierces outside the keycaps

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Brushed aluminum, what else could you ask for. And a very fair price. No rgb tough. Not a fan anyway.

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If you dont want to overpay for a quality keyboard and want to try something else I would still recommend the G413

granite thicket
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yeah at the moment it sounds like I need to buy a switch tester and go from there

weary moth
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Note: The packaging of the first batch of Lavender Purple has WRONG spec printed (specifically the operating force is incorrect). Please refer to our website for the correct spec. 45 pcs per pack…

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currently using a corsair k55

spare sand
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im thinking of getting the huntsman mini, is there any better alternatives for a similar price

hard isle
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@weary moth i would get different keycaps because of that font but it's a preference thing. also get some lube for stabilisers

weary moth
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205g0 good?

hard isle
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yep

unkempt dome
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The switches are quite smooth out of the box ... personally I don't feel the need for lubing them ...

For the stabs yes either lube them or just replace them by some dock v2 stabs, will be a good improvement over the stock stabs

hard isle
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even if you get better stabs, always lube them

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switch lubing is more optional

weary moth
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Ok, thanks a lot, ill look at how to lube stabilisers on youtube

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Also one more question

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Ive seen people add plasters to the insides of their stabilisers, is this worth doing?

hard isle
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personally not a fan of that but you can try it

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makes the bottom out softer

quasi wasp
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What would you think about constant force switches?

weary moth
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Not sure, as i said im new to the concept of customs

quasi wasp
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Oh I don’t think that these exist yet

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Was just asking the group in general

weary moth
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Ah ok, sorry

quasi wasp
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Np sry for confusing you

quasi wasp
unkempt dome
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You would have to lower the current at the same rate that the switch goes down ...

tired ravine
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In Razer why a full keyboard is cheaper than a 60% less key ?

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I though its weird

unkempt dome
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Might be weird yes ... shouldn't buy any of those tho

tall karma
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Or maybe they have different switches

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But regardless ~gaming brand bad~

ionic island
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Or tkl

ionic briar
fickle belfry
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@unkempt dome 👋 did you see the Akko sponge tactile switches?

ionic briar
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thats a very interesting force curve

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2 stage tactile bump huh?

fickle belfry
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Yes indeed, 2 stage yes

uneven summit
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I got a new k70mk 2 se and so I'm using my old keyboard as an rgb light

fickle belfry
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I'm tented to try them

pallid trout
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Also explains why all three sizes of GMMK are the same price.

unkempt dome
fickle belfry
unkempt dome
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ordering that

fickle belfry
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@unkempt dome for real ??

unkempt dome
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yeah why ... those are quite inexpensive ... like under 50 for 90 switches ... I wanted to try them

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CAD btw

fickle belfry
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I know, didn't think you'd pull the trigger that fast 😄

unkempt dome
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well the force graph is interesting and I want to compare those to the ocean blue and lavender purple

fickle belfry
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On the epomaker site they are 11$ per 45 unit box

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Usd

ionic briar
unkempt dome
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on the akko website too

fickle belfry
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Tell me what they're like compared to the ocean blue.

unkempt dome
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ok

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well I like the lavender purple more than the ocean blue for starter

fickle belfry
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The Starfish linear look sweet too.

unkempt dome
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I'm not a linear person so ... yeah not for me

fickle belfry
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Me neither. Meant aesteticaly

unkempt dome
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oh yes they are

fickle belfry
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The bottoms are polycarb instead of POM, should have a different sound profile then the Lavender.

unkempt dome
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you mean the ocean blue or the new one I already forgot the name ?

fickle belfry
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The sponge have polycarb bottoms

unkempt dome
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ok .

fickle belfry
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Regular spring like the lavender. No 2 stage springs like the blue

unkempt dome
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that's what I don't like about the blue ... the 2 stage spring

fickle belfry
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I replaced the 2 stages springs with 62g golds in my Ocean Blue

unkempt dome
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how do they feel ?

fickle belfry
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Great and spring ping's gone

unkempt dome
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nice ...

granite thicket
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Are glorious lynx switches worth it?

tired ravine
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Which one do you guys prefer ? Blackwidow v3 vs Huntsman mini ?

oak solar
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Hi! Can someone tell me what's the difference between GEEK GK61 and HK Gaming GK61?

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And does the Geek GK61 come with optical or mechanical switches?

ionic briar
oak solar
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The geek yellow one is 67 USD

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And the HK Gaming Yellow is 79.99 USD

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Both are optical ig

ionic briar
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i would say that get the one thats cheaper
for the optical switch thingy, it will listed with optical switches

oak solar
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Ok

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Thanks!

oak solar
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Ok one more question, is a big difference between the silvers and the yellows?

oak solar
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Nvm, already orderedPogChomp

quasi wasp
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Also has anyone here tried the Azeron Cyborg?

unkempt dome
# quasi wasp Why?

Cause the closer you get two opposing magnets together the higher the repulsion force is ... and you said constant force switch

quasi wasp
unkempt dome
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it's the same

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a magnet is a magnet ... when two opposing magnets come closer together the opposing force becomes higher

quasi wasp
unkempt dome
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if you say so

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I don't see the point of using magnet since a spring can do that imperceptibly perfectly

quasi wasp
unkempt dome
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and how is that possible ?

agile dirge
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can someone give me link to sorbothane foam if you used any xd

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cuz I dont know if you need higher duro or lower

quasi wasp
unkempt dome
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and how you adjust that besides changing the magnets ... kinda the same as changing the springs to me

quasi wasp
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How much power you give the electro magnets

unkempt dome
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no idea .. I'm not an electrical engineer ... would be fun to see a keyboard with 4 usb plugs and most of them being for power ...

quasi wasp
unkempt dome
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yes

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and no

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not sure about if changing the force of the magnet around would make that much of a difference without going to a really high force ...

quasi wasp
unkempt dome
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cause the force applied by the magnetic field is not upward to create the resistance ... at best it's at a 45 degree angle so you lose half the upward force ... I don't know how much force you would need to make a real difference and how it would translate in the power needed by electromagnets to achieve that ...

quasi wasp
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Why is it a 45 degree angle?

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The part pushed away is inside of a coil

unkempt dome
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yes

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where the force is coming from then ...

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the side

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you can't have a 100% upward force unless the force is coming directly from the top and/or the bottom

quasi wasp
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It’s coming from the field

unkempt dome
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ok

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still don't see any appeal to that in a keyboard

quasi wasp
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Why?

unkempt dome
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well I don't care much about linear in the first place

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also constant force is not interesting to me

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and I don't see any use for adjustable weight of the switch

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but probably some would be interested in that of course

quasi wasp
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I see

unkempt dome
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also that would make a keyboard quite expensive most likely

unkempt dome
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But I would encourage you to keep developing the idea ... we never know how it might turn out ...

quasi wasp
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Nice

quasi wasp
iron relic
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what are some 65 keyboards custom kits ready to buy rn that are worth

hot raven
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is Genesis rhod 500 RGB a good keyboard?

lusty bear
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If you by 'good' mean it gets the job done I guess? I'm guessing you aren't looking for something fancy?

trim cedar
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@lusty bear do you know of any good mice in 60-70 dollar price range?

lusty bear
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@trim cedar Maybe check out the logitech g703 lightspeed wireless, Razer mamba wireless or even the logitech G pro hero. They are primarly "gaming" mice though

trim cedar
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thats good enough

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i mean i want a gaming mouse

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i have the razer mamba wireless bro

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after 2 months synapse cant even detect it anymore

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so dumb

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i tried everything

lusty bear
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Nice, not to be that guy but isn't this the wrong channel for questions regarding mice?

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Damn, sadge

near wigeon
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What to buy in 50-100$ range

lusty bear
potent void
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I can respect that. Thank you, sir :)

lusty bear
unkempt dome
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there's no mouse channel... that one here should probably be called peripheral

potent void
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They joined this server to ask for mice only to to be disappointed and left

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Possibly

lusty bear
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Damn, strange. First ever interaction I have with this server and this happens 🤷‍♂️

loud nova
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I have to say, I've been using the Keychron K1 low profile for a little bit now, and I absolutely love it.

granite thicket
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correct me if im wrong but it sounds like the gmmk pro has a better build quality then the gmmk?

cold yarrow
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Whats a good keyboard for $150 CAD?

chrome raft
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whats yalls opinion on 60%/65%/75%/100% keyboards

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to build

jaunty parrot
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40% only

granite thicket
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Would anyone know if $105 is a lot for the glorious lynx switches from glorious prelubed is worth it or not? It's for a custom full built keyboard.

chrome raft
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I rlly hope ur joking

warm tapir
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I am looking at building my own keyboard. Would yall recommend buying from Cannon Keys?

wispy saffron
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yeah they're a decent vendor and designer as well

jaunty parrot
warm tapir
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@wispy saffron Any other vendors you would recommend? This is my first time really looking into this kind of thing so I don't know a lot of different vendors.

wispy saffron
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there's a list somewhere

wispy saffron
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scroll down to your country

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and it should have 99% of them

warm tapir
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Ah thank you! That is exactly what I needed!

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Now I can look at everything and properly do my research before making a choice.

wispy saffron
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Also if you don't know much about custom boards, there's also Keyboard University

warm tapir
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Thank you!

chrome raft
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does razer have good stabs?

ionic briar
gilded topaz
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I just cleaned my keyboard for the first time in 8 years. And holy cow that was disgusting

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TW: Gross AF

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One of those things I just kept saying I’d do later

unkempt dome
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Damn there's a unicomp full size for sale near me ...

chrome raft
gilded topaz
chrome raft
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does it work on ABS and PBS i think is the other kind? also how strong is the alchool?

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I use dawn dish soap for keycapse

gilded topaz
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I cleaned the key caps with a Clorox wipe

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This is an 8 year old keyboard I really didn’t care if I damaged it

delicate solstice
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what yall wpm here

chrome raft
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70 max

pallid trout
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Like 80 or so

queen spire
urban glade
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Second pic is underneath the plate and pcb, and that’s only a couple months after the last time I’d cleaned it

delicate solstice
lament raptor
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I need some help (not sure if this is the right channel for it)

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A key on my laptop keyboard broke

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I can put it inside but when I click the top half it pops off again

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I think that the issue is that the top clips on the retainer are broken

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But I can’t find a new one

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I have a Lenovo l340 gaming

boreal rivet
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Straight out of luck

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Email lenovo

lament raptor
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I did

chrome raft
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hi im new

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i found a keyboard on amazon

lament raptor
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They saying it’ll cost 14k INR Or about 200 USD

chrome raft
#

can someone tell if its good?

#

is this keybaord good?

#

um

#

is it good?

boreal rivet
#

Yes

chrome raft
#

thx

potent void
ember abyss
#

Anyone have a good suggest for a hotkey app?

stark wagon
#

Maybe autohotkey

quiet reef
#

what does {GB} mean on the stores of some stores?

urban glade
urban glade
#

np

quiet reef
# urban glade np

what would the price of an average custom kb cost? i just want a 75%

#

sorry ive got no idea how all this works

urban glade
#

idk tbh 😅 i've been quite disconnected from most of the offerings in the hobby for over a year

quiet reef
#

what would it have costed last year?

urban glade
#

cant remember

quiet reef
#

ok all g

urban glade
#

the things you need really depend on the kit you go with.
you need: case, plate, pcb, switches, stabilisers, keycap

quiet reef
#

its a pretty hard hobby to get into isnt it?

urban glade
#

lots of the kits you can buy will include case, plate and pcb. and some of the budget options come with their own stabilisers

quiet reef
#

theres a lack of information as well as hard to get stuff outright then and there

urban glade
#

the former was worse when i started lol

#

i was shown a good site lemme find it

#
kbd.news

Where to buy custom keyboard parts? This list of 300+ keyboard retailers, shops, stores and vendors from all over the world is the most comprehensive database you can find - probably.

quiet reef
#

i checked out Rama.com (aus website) and they had products that i really like which suits my taste as well as the arrow stuff

urban glade
#

you can search for stuff there

quiet reef
#

lit, thanks

#

most of all these things are all preorder arent they

urban glade
#

most of the higher end stuff yeah

#

some of the cheaper stuff like kbdfans is readily available

quiet reef
#

is there any hierarchy over switch brands?

#

i jsut use cherry browns cuz they came with my corsair kb

urban glade
#

its mostly just preference really

#

i havent followed most of the stuff available now, i just use cherry browns too

quiet reef
#

o ok, i recently heard browns are ass

urban glade
#

lots of ppl say that, i think its dumb

#

the whole hobby is about preference, who cares if you dont like something that others do lol

quiet reef
#

agreed

urban glade
#

sure, its good to try more things to better figure out what you like but there's nothing inherently wrong with mx browns if you like their feel

quiet reef
#

do u lube?

urban glade
#

i havent lubed my switches

quiet reef
#

that doesnt sound right but yeh

#

ok

urban glade
#

i've lubed some stabilisers

fiery vale
#

lol

quiet reef
#

i wanna try lubing but i cbb taking my keys apart since they are soldered on

urban glade
#

been meaning to lube one of my board's stabs for a year but i've been too lazy 😩

#

1 of my boards has lubed stabs that is good enough..

quiet reef
#

kbdfans has products i like

#
KBDfans® Mechanical Keyboards Store

Update: The PCB has been changed to the black color Specs Tray Mount 75% layout  Soldered Version Unassembled Include Case: Aluminum Material. Tofu84 Color: Black, Burgundy Red, E-coating Grey, Silver, Blue, Tiffany.  PCB: Soldered version; Type-C interface; RGB underglow; Support VIA and QMK; VIA firmware  Download Pl

urban glade
#

thats a decent budget option i believe

quiet reef
#

what if i want a rgb backlight too?

#

not just a underglow

#

specific boards?

urban glade
#

i cant immediately think of any

#

maybe the gmmk pro?

#

i cant remember if that has per key rgb

quiet reef
#

at least its hotswap

urban glade
#

you linked the soldered version

#

fyi

quiet reef
#

yeah i think it is

#

yeah i saw

urban glade
#

oh you were talking about the gmmk pro

quiet reef
#

i meak the gmmk pro was hotswp

#

yeah

urban glade
#

yee

#
KBDfans® Mechanical Keyboards Store

Specs: Soldered vesrion: KBD75 Rev 2.0 PCB (PCB0005) (RGB underglow), also fits with KBD75 v1/ v2/ v3 Keyboard, Tofu84 Keyboard, D84 Keyboard Hot-swap version: KBD75 hot swap PCB (RGB underglow, no Per-key RGB) , fits with KBD75 v3/ v3.1, D84 keyboard. Fixed layout (84keys), not support other layouts. Typing angle: 7°

#

there's a hotswap version of this one

quiet reef
#

oh lit

#

i can pick "add switches" and select RGB cherry switches, that gives perkey lighting too right?

#

sorry im a huge noob at this lol

urban glade
#

nope sry

#

that just means they are "cherry rgb" keyswitches

#

they're different from other cherry switches as they have clear housings

#

so, if you had per-key rgb, the clear housing would let that shine through more

quiet reef
#

does PCB matter here if i get a perkey rgb switch?

#

like would certain pcb support perkey rgb

pallid trout
#

I don't think there's a hotswap RGB PCB that wouldn't.

urban glade
#

Hopefully somebody who follows the scene more closely will be able to give a concrete answer

quiet reef
#

thanks so much

#

cheers!

urban glade
#

Np, I remember it was hard to get started too

quiet reef
#

i feel its more complicated than building a pc, at least most of them are cross compatitable lol

urban glade
#

i think it depends, i find keyboards less complicated but i've been into them for a few years

fiery vale
urban glade
#

lol

urban glade
#

but yee is true

fiery vale
#

Let's just say not everyone is spending 5k on a bloody keyboard

urban glade
#

their loss

#

😌

fiery vale
#

True

urban glade
#

i wouldnt be flashing random untested code on a gpu for fun

quiet reef
#

how do u even get a 5k keyboard

urban glade
#

aftermarket prices if they're rare & desirable

#

whether its 'worth' that would be your judgement to make, but there definitely are ones which sell for that

quiet reef
#

i literally feel like if u give me 5k, ill go learn how to make that shit and make it myself

fiery vale
#

I hope that whoever bought that 5k keyboard and wanted to use untested random software on it didn't have the expendable income to repair it cause of living above their standards

urban glade
#

oh i'm going to fix it for him cus i was the one to fuck it up

fiery vale
#

I mean

quiet reef
#

if a keyboard breaks u can always salvage most the switches, case and keycaps at least

fiery vale
#

If someone would go to me

quiet reef
#

and they are worth the most i think?

fiery vale
#

Ask me to do this

#

Then I'd tell him "If it breaks, it's on you cause you should know the risks"

urban glade
#

lots of the higher end ones have their own custom plate and pcb

quiet reef
#

well

urban glade
quiet reef
#

custim pcb can still be made again if u ask a third party manufacturer

urban glade
#

this keyboard used custom spacing

fiery vale
#

Yui

urban glade
#

the distance between each key was different

fiery vale
#

Got a good soldering iron for me?

quiet reef
#

no i mean there are companies and stuff out there that would make pcb based on ur specifications and stuff

urban glade
#

yeah but you'd still have to design the pcb

quiet reef
#

true

urban glade
#

to get them to produce it

quiet reef
#

china real cheap for that

urban glade
#

producing pcb is dirt cheap

#

ye

quiet reef
#

5k keyboard just for the sound and the feel of it

fiery vale
#

Sadge. I am asking a tone of people in here and always get different results 😄

urban glade
#

he didnt pay near that

fiery vale
#

Or recommendations

urban glade
#

he's had it a few years

fiery vale
#

Guess I'll just go for a random one as well with somewhat of a reputable brand

quiet reef
#

i just dont see the price justification for a case thats 500+

fiery vale
urban glade
#

i think it depends. i wouldnt jump to spend that much on any board lol

quiet reef
urban glade
#

production is surprisingly cheap for high quantities

fiery vale
urban glade
#

i have a friend whose prototypes cost $2k per keyboard.

fiery vale
quiet reef
#

each unit gets cheaper, the more u produce

fiery vale
#

But they are still high depending on what you do.

quiet reef
#

but production costs for CNC alum or steel, then machining/anodising or painting

fiery vale
#
  • the overhead
#
  • their own revenue
quiet reef
#

the size of a kb is really only gonna take a few hours for cnc

#

each case would cost atmost 100 in materials and labour

#

unless exotic materials like gold plated or smth ofc

urban glade
#

i've seen quite a few prod quotes, the price does vary a lot. especially when you consider buying extras to account for qc. your estimate of 100 is very optimistic to say the least.

urban glade
#

its fine to question the prices of things, i think its good, but just stating things like that as fact when you dont actually have experience is quite misleading imo.

quiet reef
#

i agree, but it definitely 100 is already quite a high production cost price

#

i have experience in making my own stuff from raw materials from hardware stores and machining items thats all

urban glade
#

to the precision and quality of high end keyboards? accounting for extras, paying experienced machinists, getting them finished to a high standard?

quiet reef
#

i see your point

urban glade
#

a friend's costs for prototyping a 65% keyboard

quiet reef
#

is the brass a backplate?

fiery vale
#

Eye watering

urban glade
#

brass switch plate, badge, and weight

fiery vale
#

(just get a g80)

quiet reef
#

how do u justify a 200$ backplate?

urban glade
#

not trying to say that the price is justified or reasonable, just showing that it is quite expensive

quiet reef
#

lol

#

yeah i know its expensive

urban glade
#

i meant that the numbers you were giving are too cheap lol

fiery vale
#

If it gives you joy, your call.

#

I'd never do it but alas

quiet reef
#

car stuff?

fiery vale
#

I for one would spend most of my money on vacations

urban glade
#

sadly, the quantities in this hobby are quite low to most machining shops, so economies of scale dont go into great effect

quiet reef
#

the higher end u go for any product, the price to value ratio lowers exponentially

urban glade
#

yee

#

but its fun

#

i'm looking forward to some stuff, but not much

fiery vale
#

idk dude a 3090 is really a value card

#

; - ;

quiet reef
urban glade
#

cant say that most of the higher end stuff is 'worth it' to a sane individual

quiet reef
#

unless u mining 24/7

fiery vale
urban glade
fiery vale
quiet reef
#

yeah i didnt see it lol

#

i just think it the general public will be wtf over someone with 2k keyboard which is like 100x a cheap one they probably use

fiery vale
#

Not the average gamer but average joe for sure

unkempt dome
#

and I'm like wtf someone spend 40 000 $ on a car

urban glade
#

yep totally, its mad to most ppl

quiet reef
#

but with cars or vacations, its hard to have it 100x another ones price without having a major jump like first class flights and hotels or like a sports car

#

na, u cant get a new car for like 20k

unkempt dome
#

yes

quiet reef
#

the difference in price is lower

fiery vale
#
  • you can't really put a price tag on different experiences
quiet reef
#

^agreed

urban glade
#

it all depends how differnet ppl value stuff

fiery vale
#

you can get a new car for 9k even

urban glade
#

i'm approaching maybe $10k value of all my keyboard stuff

quiet reef
#

yeah if u wanna die

fiery vale
#

No

urban glade
#

but my pc is still running fx8350

quiet reef
#

lol

urban glade
#

lol

fiery vale
#

Ayy AMD FX

#

ik you are not gaming

urban glade
#

i may be getting a better desktop, i may just move to mbp. undecided for now

#

but yeah. i can justify that because a faster pc wouldnt make much difference for what i actually do

quiet reef
#

lets say toyota is a entry level car right, then 3x that price, u can already get an astronomically better vehicle

fiery vale
#

mbp?

urban glade
#

macbook pro

fiery vale
#

oh

#

oof

quiet reef
#

but a entry level keyboard for 20$, then a 60$ keyboard still both preatty shit

fiery vale
#

I'd tell you to get a framework but they don't sell in Europe yet

quiet reef
#

framework is lit

#

they are actually bringing what people want

urban glade
boreal rivet
#

New mbp shits all over framework

quiet reef
#

its 3k aud

urban glade
#

they're different classes of product

quiet reef
#

framework is 1.6?

fiery vale
urban glade
#

lol

#

i want mac

quiet reef
#

mb air

#

then stick on thermal pads

urban glade
#

its not worth the conversation trying to dissuade

fiery vale
#

Let me try to convert you to my religion :C

#

You are already converted but alas

urban glade
#

i was considering air also, but external display support and such leaves me uncertain

urban glade
#

linux is cool

#

i just want macos on a mobile device

fiery vale
#

I know 😄

#

I just love to preach

#

And hate on Windows

quiet reef
#

is GMMK Pro worth it? if i ceebs building and compiling my own kb?

fiery vale
#

Someone actually told me that she thinks Windows 10 is worth over 100$

#

I found that funny

quiet reef
#

i fucked up when i bought Win10 for retail

urban glade
quiet reef
#

i didnt know CD keys when i was younger

urban glade
#

iirc i bought win10 retail like 7 (6?) years ago

fiery vale
quiet reef
#

i was 14

#

no thanks ❤️

fiery vale
#

I bought win10 for 15 bucks

quiet reef
#

macOS best

fiery vale
#

maxOS and Linux work the same

unkempt dome
#

still based on linux

fiery vale
#

Same structure

fiery vale
boreal rivet
#

Macos is based on unix

#

Not linux

quiet reef
#

do O Rings actually do anything or na

boreal rivet
#

No

urban glade
#

o rings do do something but they're shit and should be avoided. if you want it to be quiet, just get silent switches

fiery vale
#

They do, but I'd not do it.

quiet reef
#

i like using windows education edition

#

but i find the Bios menu the best

fiery vale
quiet reef
urban glade
fiery vale
urban glade
#

and they're one of the biggest selling points 😉

quiet reef
#

i wouldnt consider my Cherry brown silent tactile

urban glade
#

thats because they're not silenced.

#

lol

quiet reef
#

yeah i figured

#

whats a switch thats tactile and silent?

#

or just quieter

urban glade
#

there are aliaz, zeal zilents, gateron silent browns, boba u4t

fiery vale
#

I know, but I already had the o-rings laying around and I am currently not really into swapping out my springs to be quite honest

urban glade
#

off the top of my head

fiery vale
#

Topre

urban glade
#

oh mx is typing. "silenced topre" incoming

#

😉

quiet reef
#

thanks

#

ill check it out

urban glade
#

silenced topre is really good though

pallid trout
#

Doesn't have any dampening.

urban glade
pallid trout
#

Good tactiles tho

#

I think Gazzew has some silent switches.

#

But it's not the U4T's.

boreal rivet
#

There is a silent u4

quiet reef
#

should i buy switches form other places when i get GMMK Pro so i dont pay overpay?

urban glade
#

i havent actually been interested in new switches since jwk was hated for making the fake zeal switches, just going off what friends have mentioned

ionic briar
#

Bobagum is silence

fiery vale
boreal rivet
#

New switches are just recolors of clones of a clone

urban glade
#

and i only sent it back after i had bought (and received) one of my own

fiery vale
#

Let's hope that in 5 years all of this shit has gone away so that I may just find a Topre board in stock 🙂

#

I wouldn't even mind the various weighted ones as I would just install custom domes

fiery vale
#

Aka none in stock

quiet reef
#

if u want the small ones yeh

#

sadly

#

are these really really good?

fiery vale
#

no i want 100% boards

#

but non of those are for me

quiet reef
#

whats so special about topre boards?

boreal rivet
#

If you want iso de but don't bother to try finding it then what's the point

fiery vale
#

I tried finding some

#

They are just not in stock kekw

boreal rivet
fiery vale
#

Only one board was in stock and it was the old varied weight board in black

boreal rivet
#

Other than brown alps

quiet reef
boreal rivet
quiet reef
#

are they loud af or na

boreal rivet
#

No

fiery vale
#

I'd love a return of the NovaTouch

boreal rivet
#

Never happening

quiet reef
#

would they be cheaper in japan?

boreal rivet
#

Idk

quiet reef
#

and/or have them in stock

#

technically should be right?

boreal rivet
#

Best bet is to buy one from r/mechmarket in na

quiet reef
#

whys that?

boreal rivet
#

Shipping

quiet reef
#

oh im not NA so doesnt matter anywya

#

can u get topre switches and build a KB urself with them?

urban glade
#

not really rn

quiet reef
#

whys that?

#

low stock thats all?

urban glade
#

nah

#

they're capacitive

#

different technology

quiet reef
#

ahh ok

#

so to get a topre KB u have to just settle with the prebuilt ones

urban glade
#

settle with

#

if i had to choose only 1 keyboard i would choose my hhkb over my >$3k custom

quiet reef
#

whats hhkb?

urban glade
#

a topre board

quiet reef
#

oohh ok

#

geez thats high ass praise

boreal rivet
quiet reef
#

how did u reply just a certain section of the text lol

urban glade
#

> [stuff]

#

turns into

#

[stuff]

quiet reef
#

oohh cool

urban glade
#

@boreal rivet red otd

boreal rivet
#

Nice

#

Might buy a pro bt

#

So tempted but do I really need it hng

urban glade
#

Pro bt is shit compared to hybrid

boreal rivet
#

Don't need device quick switching

urban glade
#

Ah then sure get it

fiery vale
#

Just buy all metal keycaps

urban glade
#

Hhkb good

boreal rivet
#

Fuck it, I'll buy some keycaps to offset the cost

urban glade
#

Buying from jp?

boreal rivet
#

Nah sg

#

190usd

urban glade
#

Sg good

boreal rivet
#

Gud indeed

#

Used market is the only good thing about it

urban glade
#

I don’t have my sg flipper emote anymore

dull ibex
#

apart from foam what can i pit here to make y kb sound nice

elfin herald
#

A bluetooth speaker

dull ibex
#

would any of these make it sound nice

chrome raft
#

Any tips to upgrade my stock Anne pro 2

ionic briar
oak solar
#

Does anyone know from where I can buy lube in Romania with low shipping price?

agile dirge
#

any tip to mod my stock ducky mecha v2

#

?

#

I already put foam under pcb

boreal rivet
#

Fuck the hhkb

quasi wasp
#

I still do wonder if I should try to make an electromagnetic keyboard

#

Which actually needs power to function

chrome raft
#

Custom actuation force for every key

violet geyser
#

what are some good budget keycaps?(the rest of the build is rk61 and gate yellows)

quasi wasp
quasi wasp
chrome raft
#

id buy

quasi wasp
#

Nice

main narwhal
quasi wasp
#

Maybe for the measurement, but the keys would be moved by electromagnets!!

#

The stems would be inside magnetic coils

#

And if the coils react quickly enough, you could even configure how the resistance changes over distance

#

But sounds expensive haha

#

Glad you like the idea

chrome raft
#

Dinokeys

#

Did u see me in the last server

#

The answer hasnt changed

chrome raft
#

Ill pay quite a bit for it

#

Esp if it thoccs

half bridge
#

Just thought I'd share my boards with y'all
Think6.5v2 & Savage65, both with DMK Semiconductor :))

violet geyser
#

Is the akko rose better than gateron yellows

#

?

boreal rivet
# urban glade

What's with that button looking thing on the top right

ionic briar
urban glade
quasi wasp
quasi wasp
pallid trout
urban glade
#

hhkb and filco

quasi wasp
urban glade
quasi wasp
urban glade
#

capslock is control

quasi wasp
#

What

#

Why

urban glade
#

because its more comfortable to get to there

#

i have control there on every single keyboard i own

quasi wasp
#

And what about caps lock?

urban glade
#

fn+tab

#

iirc

#

i never use capslock

quasi wasp
#

Why not just a key on the bottom row?

urban glade
#

wdym?

#

its reprogrammable if you really care that much lol

quasi wasp
#

You can’t reprogram keys that aren’t there

#

Looks like just an inefficient use of space to me

urban glade
#

shrug

#

it isnt for u then

#

but it is for lots

quasi wasp
#

I still don’t get it

#

For anyone

#

Maybe it looks cool to some idk

urban glade
#

whats the point of a key being there if it never will get used

quasi wasp
#

Just because you don’t use it doesn’t mean that no one would use it

#

Also you could just put macros on there

urban glade
#

and nobody is forcing you into buying this specific keyboard lmao. if you want a key there then just... don't get this keyboard which doesnt have a key there?

quasi wasp
#

I just don’t get it

urban glade
#

and clearly i'm not capable of explaining it well enough for you to get it, so there's nothing more to really say

quasi wasp
#

Ok

#

Do you have one?

urban glade
#

that pic i sent is of mine so yeah lol

quasi wasp
#

I‘m glad you enjoy it!

quasi wasp
quasi wasp
#

Wow these look actually professional

#

Good job!

urban glade
#

ty 😊

quasi wasp
#

Thought it was promotional content at first haha

urban glade
#

i've only been getting back into photography since yesterday so i'm still quite rusty

#

been getting some help from friends much better than me

quasi wasp
#

Nice

urban glade
#

p much all of them taken in dark room with the light coming from my monitors

urban glade
#

need to sort out the DUST

#

but i like this ignoring the dust

wispy saffron
#

OTD The Cheat? sheesh

urban glade
#

i put a sticker on the bottom of it!! ^_^

wispy saffron
#

Ah ok

#

But pog lilpog

urban glade
#

Cheat is like 5x cheaper than this lol

#

I want a cheat one day

wispy saffron
#

Yeah aGIGALUL

#

Still not too familiar with all the of the OG boards. I'm sure I can find in the forums of KBDMania but my Korean isn't too good

urban glade
#

Very little otd is in kbdmania

#

Different communities 😝

wispy saffron
#

RIP

urban glade
#

It’s definitely hard to justify anywhere near market for them

#

Otds

#

Kmacs are easier to justify, they’re still 3 figures ish

wispy saffron
#

Yeah I think I'll stick to Duck and Geon for Kustoms for now CringeHarold

urban glade
#

geon is good

wispy saffron
#

Sad couldn't get an F2 but still happy with my F1-8X built with vintage browns

urban glade
#

just get topre though tbh, much better value

#

BASED

#

vintage browns good

#

every single mx board i have is browns

wispy saffron
#

Yeah it is pretty pog, but I might rebuild it with Hyperglide blacks and save the vintage browns for some other board. It's plateless and I don't really like the sound, especially the MX Grey spacebar

urban glade
#

plateless is good for browns

#

my 356n mk2 is half plate

brazen aspen
#

Much more box looking

urban glade
#

f1 sides too thin imo

brazen aspen
#

I ended up skipping f2 because of aesthetics

#

Only to then also skip kage because I was dumb and forgot to put money aside lol

urban glade
#

lewis 👍

brazen aspen
#

Lewis is good lad

#

I look forward to the upcoming announcement

wispy saffron
#

Also sad I missed the Haus but I'm not a huge 65% fan anyway

urban glade
#

haus cool

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959 is good

brazen aspen
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I have an angel on the way from max to scratch my 65% itch

urban glade
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need to set aside switches for mine aIUyawn

urban glade
brazen aspen
urban glade
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yeah they did a good job of it

brazen aspen
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Going to have an all black angel and all white prophet

urban glade
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i havent seen it irl, i have enough to satisfy me for 60s so i passed

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that'll look good

brazen aspen
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Very excited for that

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Yeah I’ve been saving a godly batch of mx blacks for the all black build too lol

urban glade
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i only wanna use browns and topre

brazen aspen
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I wonder if alessio would rent his 959 mini again LUL

urban glade
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it doesnt need to get dented more

brazen aspen
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I didn’t hear about the dent

urban glade
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at a meetup

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lol

brazen aspen
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Rip

urban glade
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i probs wont take any of my boards if i ever go to meetup

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i'd be going to meet people, not to see boards

brazen aspen
brazen aspen
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Any board I could bring would also probably be there

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I don’t have anything crazy really

urban glade
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fair

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but same board can be very different depending on build

brazen aspen
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Yeah

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Though I’m less interested in the build, more so the board itself

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If that makes any sense lol

urban glade
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sorta does

brazen aspen
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Like I won’t type on a board at a meet-up and go crazy over how the switches feel lol

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Anyways I could maybe buy something really cool if I sold boards, but I am not sure if it’s worth it

urban glade
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worth is really dependent on each person

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my 356n is not worth market lol

brazen aspen
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Oh god no

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No OTD is really worth market, but boy I’d buy a 356 mini if I had the money

urban glade
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mini is cool

brazen aspen
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Very cool

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Honestly at this point I’ll buy like 4 more boards and stop

urban glade
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i'm only really getting things that are unique or by friends

brazen aspen
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Time to become a jaded keyboard nerd

urban glade
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lol

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me

brazen aspen
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Time to only use cherry and topre

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I’ve been on the cherry and topre stage for a while now actually lmao

urban glade
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no reason for anything else 😌

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i really havent tried much but i'm more than content with what i have

brazen aspen
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I let all the zoomers go crazy over ktt and akko

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I gave up on keeping up with stuff like a year ago

urban glade
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that otd was my first ever tkl custom, first top mount, etc

brazen aspen
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Oh wow you went straight to the deep end

urban glade
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i had cheaper stuff