peripherals

[rocky silo]

do you guys recommend any relatively cheap keycaps under 45 that has japanese sub-legends?

[subtle grotto]

the keyboard is like 16 dollars

lol

[potent void]

Not bad for $16 then

[frigid knot]

I would go g pro x but i will warn the keycaps do chip paint over time and the bottom row is not standard, wireless just go keychron mk2

[pure basalt]

Razor Huntsman Mini or Corsair K65 mini? Looking for a keyboard replacement, which allows me to use my mouse on the right hand side again

[unkempt dome]

Get durgod, leopold or varmilo tkl keyboard instead

[meager thorn]

what the difference between tkl and 65% or 60%

[acoustic harness]

the size

60% lacks arrow and fn keys

65 has arrrows, a shortened right shift, and some others like delete and home, or page up and down

tkl is your regular keyboard without the number pad

[meager thorn]

im on debate whether i get a 65 or tkl now that i know

[woeful lantern]

also there is 75% it's in between 65 and 10 key less depends if you use f keys a lot if its worth it over 65

[meager thorn]

i use the f keys a bit but mostly for minecraft

arrows are the killers for me

those i need

[woeful lantern]

well yeah it's just letting you know 75% is still more portable then 10 key less depends on what you prefer and need

[sacred cradle]

does someone know where i can get like krytox 205g0 in the EU

like, a very small amount

dont need them it for keyboards but it is generally used for keyboards so i hope some of u know

[meager thorn]

i want to say probably just use amazon but idk if it would be available

[sacred cradle]

they are all big amounts

in price and amount of lube

[woeful lantern]

amazon or aliexpress have it and then keyboard sites

[sacred cradle]

i found one keyboard site but i have to pay for 50 euros shipping lmaoo

[meager thorn]

jesus

[sacred cradle]

im not doing that lol

[meager thorn]

that better come with a titanium case

[woeful lantern]

https://candykeys.com/product/krytox-gpl-205-grade-0-5ml

[sacred cradle]

shipping still expensive as shit, and i dont really need that much

ill keep searching tho

[woeful lantern]

depends where in europe you are for that site as some places have free shipping over 50 euro in some places

[meager pollen]

so i repaired a magic keyboard and am using it for my windows pc and was wondering if the fn key and eject key can be used?

they dont register on any apps i use

[quasi wasp]

I hear the spring of my lshift key if I press down lightly before the actuation point (using MX Blues), is this normal?

[south oyster]

what is the best sounding keyboard and why is it the IBM Model F

[unkempt dome]

That should not happen but it does sometimes ... you're lucky it's not in all the keyboard and only one switch ...

[granite bane]

gmmk pro but youd have to buy caps and switches so its probably more, or keychron q1 if u can find it

wait theyre 75%

my bad

i think keychron makes TKL boards so check their site @limber dove

[limber dove]

@granite baneI actually plan on doing a gmmk pro for my self but this is for a friend and he has a budget

[granite bane]

ah ok

im gonna order mine in a month when i has the monies

looks like a solid keyboard and if they fixed the input lag on the stock fw then thats cool, if not ill flask QMK anyway probably

[limber dove]

I'm hoping on birthday and xmas money to afford mine but there so much stuff i wanns get it's crazy

[granite bane]

i wanna get the g pro x superlight next probably after this kb

i been slowly upgrading my entire setup

[unkempt dome]

Upgrading is fun ...

I'm still satisfied with my m42 ... but I still got a mm710

Just to test it and have a black mouse

[granite bane]

i recently just got a new 1440p 144hz monitor

Rog Strix XG27AQ

since i have a 3060ti so it was stupid using a 1080 60 monitor

[unkempt dome]

I got a 3080 ti ... now need a monitor

[granite bane]

grats, i found mine (3060 ti) for £650

i have a 5800x and 3060 ti

built this pc a few months ago now

[unkempt dome]

I got a 3060 and a 3080 ti on the evga waiting list

[granite bane]

i didnt have to wait more than a day

[unkempt dome]

Was lucky

[granite bane]

bought one about £100 above MSRP from overclockers.co.uk

[unkempt dome]

Nice

[granite bane]

uk seems to have more stock and more reasonable prices

[unkempt dome]

3060 ti is the sweet spot

[granite bane]

inb4 in murica ppl are waiting all night outside of bestbuy and shit

[unkempt dome]

Yes we barely have stock in north America

[granite bane]

oof

its not great here and its still overpriced but less so

eg 3080 msrp is like £800 or something and u can get it for about £1000

[unkempt dome]

3080 is about 2500 on classified ads

[granite bane]

wtaf

if we put into how overpriced everything is rn, this PC cost like £2400 or $3260 USD to build

total

@unkempt dome

[unkempt dome]

That's about the price I paid for mine

[deep quarry]

what are the best plate mount stabilizers that come in black or just mainly black

[ionic briar]

durock plate mount and everglide panda plate mount

the former can comes in all black whereas the latter has a white stem

[deep quarry]

ight thanks

durock oos everywhere where its not overpriced

[ionic briar]

youre in the us?

[deep quarry]

yeah the clipped ones are in stock on prevail but i dont know if theyre the black or white ones

[ionic briar]

bruh
anyway: https://divinikey.com/products/durock-plate-mount-stabilizers?variant=32316615557185

@deep quarry

[deep quarry]

those are single ones id rather just buy the pandas

[ionic briar]

i mean you can buy as much as you want.
also, why wont you buy the stock one on prevail?

[deep quarry]

oh i thought they were oos

are they the black or white ones

[ionic briar]

if you buy from divinikey they will all come in one bag anyway so what gives?

[ionic briar]

both are in stock

[deep quarry]

are they email me what color I want or something?

[deep quarry]

ooohhh thats how you choose

bet

thanks

ill just get those theyre better for half the price

[ionic briar]

whats the size of your keyboard btw?

[deep quarry]

tkl

[ionic briar]

divinikey is cheaper.

the extra 2usd for a 7u wire is a bruh for me from prevail

[unreal current]

Playing 4 key rhythm games on my keyboard is annoying because my fingers keep catching the surrounding keys, so rather than buying a key puller and removing all my other keys whenever I play, I've elected to buy a pair of 2 key units to use. The little things that are just 2 keys side by side for like osu and stuff? Like that but 2 of them for four key games. Anyone know what I'm talking about / have any recommendations?

[deep quarry]

i think i have tkl wiht 6.25

[ionic briar]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/
if you have the money to order stuff from pcb fabs and solder in the switches yourself

[ionic briar]

then yea, without shipping fees (if any), divinikey is cheaper

[deep quarry]

ight

idk what ill get

[deep quarry]

i could solder but I dont really want to

[ionic briar]

uhh thats not for you sir

[deep quarry]

ight lmao

[ionic briar]

youre building a tkl and that is a 4 key numpad

[deep quarry]

4 key?

what 4 keys would that be

[ionic briar]

i also specifically replied to jay samurai question and not to you

[deep quarry]

my bad

[rocky silo]

any shops where I can buy keyboard stuff in south east asia? because some sites charge HUGE shipping fees

[ionic briar]

which country specifically?

[rocky silo]

Philippines @ionic briar

[ionic briar]

https://zionstudios.ph/elements/product-categories/

[unreal current]

any keys I guess

this is the kinda thing I was looking for, but like... two separate pads with two keys each, connected by a cord so I could place them further apart from eachother?

But that probably doesn't exist so I think I'll just get this one. These are the switch options it comes with. I don't really know the differences between all of these

[ionic briar]

first, read up the difference between a linear, tactile and clicky switch

[unreal current]

I already know the difference. I'm good with anything but clicky.

[ionic briar]

for the list on the pic, gateron clear, red, black, cherry mx red and silver are all linears
with clear and mx silver being the lightest, follows by gat and cherry red, then gat black

gat brown and mx brown are all light tactile with the same weighting and actuation points

the rest are click jacket clicky, also the same weighting and actuation point

[unreal current]

I've used tactiles for a while and though they're good for typing and general gaming, I feel like they can be a bit funky in rhythm games, so I think I'll go with the gat reds. This pad is hot swappable so I can always mess around with other switches later.

Thanks

[potent gate]

ilumkb they're a store from singapore and don't charge that much for shipping even to AU its only like $10

some sound test for some of my boards

[granite bane]

mx red, blue, brown are imho worse than gaterons since theyre more scratchy

but u could prolly lube them

[quasi wasp]

Does it happen that every switch is affected?

How often does it happen that a few switches are affected?

[boreal rivet]

does it affect actuation?

[potent gate]

no its just spring ping since they're bone dry u can lube them with specific lubes like krytox 105

[quasi wasp]

What are you referring to here?

[boreal rivet]

does it create issues with keypress registrations?

[quasi wasp]

Ah, just wanted to make sure that you were talking to me. I think that the keypress registrations work just fine

[pallid trout]

They feel exactly the same my guy

If anyone can feel the difference, they wouldn't be buying your bog standard Cherry or Gateron switch anyway.

[quasi wasp]

Who are you talking to?

[potent gate]

you

or the guy that talked about hearing the spring in their switch

[ocean bear]

I found an old, beautiful mechanical keyboard at work. Since they wanted to get rid of it I asked if I could keep it, sadly it went to storage instead

Man if you are going to throw it in a box and not use it give it to me, I'll give it a proper use

[quasi wasp]

Ah, yeah, that was me. I’ve heard that you shouldn’t lube blues, tho

[quasi wasp]

@boreal rivet I don’t even notice it with background noise

[potent gate]

oh i didnt know you had clickies nah you can lube the spring but for lubing the stem and click jacket its pointless

[pallid trout]

Makes sense.

[quasi wasp]

You need to be able to take out the switch in order to do that, right?

[quasi wasp]

Nice

[quasi wasp]

@potent gate and thanks for the info!

[ocean bear]

[brazen aspen]

oh nice there is a keyboard channel now

[unkempt dome]

Yes sometimes ... like the outemu blue I have

[quasi wasp]

I c

[charred root]

is this good?

[unkempt dome]

Meh most people would say

[granite bane]

trust me they don't

cherries are scratchier than their clones, you can lube them and it helps tho

[granite bane]

it's okay but i'd probably pick a ducky mini over it personally, unless you really need icue

[charred root]

and this?

[granite bane]

good kb

[charred root]

people said its complete garbage

[charred root]

yeah i jst ordered it

[granite bane]

the k65 or?

[charred root]

the

keychron

[granite bane]

why

keychron makes good shit

[charred root]

yeah

i did

oh

[granite bane]

their shipping is just atrocious

[charred root]

the bad opinion

were on the

um

corsair

keyboard

[granite bane]

yeah avoid gaming keyboard tho

tbh*

[charred root]

i use my laptop's keyboard to type

[granite bane]

the only exceptions are GMMK and Coolermaster and maybe HyperX

[charred root]

i have a mechanical keyboard but it hurts

[charred root]

im poor :D

[granite bane]

everything else is proprietary garbage sadly :(

[granite bane]

keychron is not a gaming keyboard so it's automatically good

[charred root]

yeah

its gonna be good for both things ig

bot gaming and

normal use

[unkempt dome]

You can game on any keyboard

You can type on any keyboard

Except extra specific 2 key keyboard and shit like that ...

[frigid ravine]

if i buy the gmmk tkl should i be getting pcb mounted switches or plate mounted?

[brazen aspen]

plate mounted aka 3 pin

[frigid ravine]

non pro

[brazen aspen]

iirc the standard gmmk line doesn't support 5 pin switches

either way, if you buy 5 pin switches you can just clip the legs if you really want

so not a massive deal

[frigid ravine]

ok

the mx blue rgb plate mount on MK are oos

these are sad times

[quasi wasp]

Why do the Kailh clicks switches actuate before clicking?

[boreal rivet]

click bar

[ionic briar]

the force to actuate the switch is lighter than the force to overcome the click bar which generate the click

[quasi wasp]

Isn’t that kind of a bad trait?

I cannot not do both on my MX Blues

[pallid trout]

I have two testers right now and they absolutely do. If there is a difference, it's so subtle I'd have to stop typing and pay attention to even notice.

[brazen aspen]

cherry and gateron switches differ greatly, but that is my opinion as an enthusiast

your average consumer won't care enough to notice any major difference

[pallid trout]

[brazen aspen]

that being said, there is 100% a difference between them

from housing tolerances, stock spring tolerances, potential for break in

many factors

[pallid trout]

There probably is, but I just don't see it being a factor for purchase for a lot of people, even between some enthusiasts.

But yeah, I personally can't tell.

[brazen aspen]

nah 100% enthusiasts will care, but general consumers not so much

[pallid trout]

Fair

[brazen aspen]

If I wasn't modding my board, I would rather have stock gateron switches. However if I were building a custom I would take my favourite cherry switch over my favourite gat

(I say typing on gats lol)

[ionic briar]

well kinda , but almost all clicky switches does that, with the exception of buckling spring

and correction, the actuation point is before the click event

[quasi wasp]

That is something which usually isn't the case

[ionic briar]

yep

tho idk if you are gonna notice that if you are speeding through

[boreal rivet]

They think they it makes a difference, I've used my fair share of switches from inks to og hps

And my well broken in cherry picked and lubed gat milky yellows are still smoother even when unfilmed

[brazen aspen]

filming wouldn't make a difference to smoothness anyways

[boreal rivet]

A wobbly top can allow your slider to depress at an angle

May cause scratchiness due to the extra pressure

[brazen aspen]

You'd be hard pushed to get housings with such poor tolerances that this is an issue, unless using stems with bad tolerances like invyr uhmwpes

[brazen aspen]

however yeah a nice batch of broken in ks3x47 gats are top tier for sure

I still personally prefer my cherry picked batches of 1989 vint blacks tho

[boreal rivet]

I had very nice vint blacks for a while, can't remember what year, got rid of them when I sold my idb60.

[unkempt dome]

Not everybody have access to vintage cherry for a decent price

[brazen aspen]

I never said that was the case lol

[brazen aspen]

the idb60 is really nice, pngu is also a really great guy too :)

why'd you get rid of it?

[urban glade]

i miss mine sometimes

very very good board for price

i love pngu

[urban glade]

i've had many vint blacks, always prefer brown lol

had early 1988 pcb vints

0 scratch completely stock

rly perfect

but browns still king

[brazen aspen]

browns really do sound great

[urban glade]

i've actually been using my majestouch 1 with pretool browns these past few days

[unkempt dome]

Cherry brown ... ? I don't find that they sound that good

[urban glade]

rly nice experience

[urban glade]

in the right board..

[unkempt dome]

I probably have a shit board then

[urban glade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711761567892373545/890284238409187338/image0.jpg

my majestouch 1

[urban glade]

board, caps, desk, any mods... they all make a big difference

and even beyond that, its preference. nothing wrong with not liking it even if others do

thats joy of hobby

lots of variety

[unkempt dome]

Well the durgod fusion must have all that bad then

[urban glade]

get whats best for ur preference

idk what that is, i dont keep up with oem boards at all

only filco because i have a friend who rly likes it and is always showing me filco stuff lol

[unkempt dome]

Withing all the switches I have the cherry brown are my least favorite ... and I don't have exotic switches that are hard to find and you have to sell a kidney to get them ...

But the brown are only in the durgod fusion cause they are soldered there ...

My other switches I tried in the gmmk and the snowfox

[urban glade]

i think every mx board i own has soldered mx browns

sold all other switches

oh i lie. i have 1 set of smooth vintage blues. i'm saving them for a nice board

[unkempt dome]

I wish I could lube them easily

[urban glade]

i usually use unlubed brown

but i also usually cherry pick them

[unkempt dome]

Well I don't have hundreds of them to cherry pick them

Nor would I want to do that anyway

Not with cherry brown

[urban glade]

if u dont like them then no point trying to force urself into them again

👌

[unkempt dome]

I tried several time

Always ended up not liking them each time

And each time it took less and less time

[brazen aspen]

@urban glade nice board, also good mutual friends lol

[urban glade]

oh cool

lol

ur uk?

and ty

cheapest i own but rly rly like

[quasi wasp]

But then again, what is the click for?

[ionic briar]

audible feedback alongside tactility feedback

[urban glade]

cus ppl like the feel of it

[quasi wasp]

But in this case, the click doesn’t really give you feedback properly in some cases

[quasi wasp]

I mean you DO feel when (or at least if) the actuation has taken place with Blues

[agile dirge]

anyone got the thocciest keyboard?

buy or create

gimme parts pls

[quasi wasp]

Why do people like the thocc so much?

[agile dirge]

just sexy lol

and addicting

[quasi wasp]

Hm

I like the sound of my MX Blue keyboard well enough

[agile dirge]

nice

its too loud for me

[quasi wasp]

Well enough? Is that something you can say in English?

[agile dirge]

especially gaming at night xd

[agile dirge]

?

[agile dirge]

yea

[quasi wasp]

Haha

[quasi wasp]

Nice

[agile dirge]

don't want to wake ppl up

[urban glade]

yeah thats fine

if u want quiet just go with silent switches lol

[agile dirge]

ï

[urban glade]

silent topre very thocky

i rly love silent topre

[agile dirge]

cant seem to buy them

[urban glade]

just buy hhkb

endgame board

[agile dirge]

what if I want to switch my switches lol

[urban glade]

u wouldnt

cus hhkb type-s perfect

[agile dirge]

i think nah i'd rather hot swapable

[ionic briar]

you can swap the dome out for bke redux if you want

[urban glade]

then idk what to suggest because silenced topre is the thockiest thats actually nice

[ionic briar]

very tedious process tho

[quasi wasp]

Btw why are there so few wireless mechanical numpads? I really don’t want to use up another port

[urban glade]

cus tiny market

shame rly

i'm working on usb numpad with hub built in

[quasi wasp]

Nice

[urban glade]

but i wont sell it

too lazy

[quasi wasp]

Rlyu?

[urban glade]

typo

lol

[quasi wasp]

Haha

[quasi wasp]

A nice

BTW: why is the numpad usually on the right when mice exist?

[urban glade]

im just more comfortable with using the numpad with my right hand tbh

[quasi wasp]

And why isn’t there an additional thing for entering numbers for the other hand?

With navigation keys and backspace and such

[frosty cove]

You can get boards with left hand keypads @quasi wasp

[quasi wasp]

Sadly they aren’t flipped, right?

[unkempt dome]

I agree ... and it's too rattly for me ...

there's board with modular numpad you can place left or right

[frosty cove]

They can be just depends what kind you get

[ancient otter]

[boreal rivet]

Mm pngu is great, I had the first run of the boards, we called it sekrit60 among the guys who participated. Anyway it was too flexy for me.

[boreal rivet]

actually part of a reason why I dislike the gasket mount trend right now

it was cool when it showed up but now every board uses it and stuff like top mount is just gone

[safe wigeon]

anyone know how to program a ck62?

[soft kiln]

clicky keyboards are the best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeqnEJpPZVY

[boreal rivet]

thats a tactile

[urban glade]

lmfao

[soft kiln]

close enough

[inland elbow]

Is it me but the macbook air keyboard has some deep thocc

[near sparrow]

https://www.amazon.ae/dp/B07G2PY7KH/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_X626H2K9E134ZECH7T7Q
hey guys any idea on how this performs?

[fickle belfry]

From the reviews I've seen, they are good quality KB. But like most gaming keyboards, they suffer from rattely stabilizers.

[quasi wasp]

Could a keyboard which uses electromagnets instead of springs for (variable!) force feedback be possible?

[charred root]

do keychron keyboards come lubed from factory?

[ionic briar]

its already a thing

wooting keyboards are one modern example

[shut citrus]

I believe so

factory lubed

[quasi wasp]

Those don’t provide force feedback with the magnets tho, right?

Because with variable force feedback and some good integrated speakers, you could emulate pretty much every keyboard in existence AND open new possibilities for feel and sound

Possibly even providing vibration feedback too, but that’s not necessary

[charred root]

i ordered the keychron k3

[unkempt dome]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Ym9528awM

Those provide force feedback with magnet ...

Quite interesting

[quasi wasp]

Thanks for the link! These don’t seem to be adaptive, though

Which would require electro magnets

[unkempt dome]

Why would you want adaptative ...

[quasi wasp]

So that you can have any keyboard action you want

[unkempt dome]

You can already do that by choosing the switch accordingly

[quasi wasp]

You’re stuck with that then, tho

[shut citrus]

And I ordered the keychron k4

[charred root]

o damn

[quasi wasp]

Also you can do key actions not possible with other switches

[unkempt dome]

Look for omnipoint switches if you want adjustable

[charred root]

i wouldve ordered a tkl with gat yellow
but

[unkempt dome]

Not if it's hotswappable

[charred root]

i ordered the k3 cos i need smth small

[shut citrus]

Wanted the numpad but I should’ve looked at the what’s new keyboard and saw the k1 and k7 have numpad

[shut citrus]

I need numpad

[quasi wasp]

Then you need to buy new switches and swap them every time

[unkempt dome]

Not a big problem

[shut citrus]

And it’s hotswappable

[charred root]

:o

[shut citrus]

What’s wrong with numpad?

[charred root]

i dont like it

liek i dont use it

ii dont have a reason to hav it

[quasi wasp]

???

[charred root]

the reason to not have it is table place

[shut citrus]

Ok that’s fine but I use the numbers a lot and need it for programming so numpad.

[charred root]

and im poor so buying the k3 is too much already xD

[shut citrus]

True

[quasi wasp]

That’s like a huge difference

[charred root]

:O then u need smth which is comfortable

[quasi wasp]

Also, this

[soft kiln]

40% keyboard masterrace

[charred root]

this is a very good kb

[shut citrus]

I hope I bought the right one but it’s hotswappable so I can change out keys.

[charred root]

gat yellow 👄

[shut citrus]

That sold out

[charred root]

:o

[charred root]

my country isn't fancy
so i cant just buy stuff :/

[shut citrus]

What key switches you recommend?

[charred root]

gateron yelow sounds very good

[soft kiln]

holy pandas are great

[charred root]

cherry, i dont recommend

[shut citrus]

I got gateron brown

[charred root]

and if u have money then u can get more moni switches

like

holy panda

gat black ink

etc

[charred root]

thats also pretty good for what u do

[shut citrus]

Hope it’s quiet and comfortable to type on

[charred root]

idk i have a crappy blue switch keyboard rn

so i just use my laptop keyboard

[shut citrus]

I never use a mechanical keyboard before

[soft kiln]

i like blue switches

[charred root]

man.

i think ur the first person who likes blue

[shut citrus]

Aren’t they loud?

[charred root]

trust me u will get addicted to it if u uase a good one

[soft kiln]

yeah i like loud ones

[charred root]

u wull get annoyed

[charred root]

do u have a blue switch keyboard?

whic u use?

or are u just saying fro yt videos

[soft kiln]

i dont have one at the moment gave it to a friend

[charred root]

so u have used it for long?

like actually use it for work?

[soft kiln]

yeah i used it for like 3 years but hes borrowing it till he can get a new keyboard

[shut citrus]

What keyboard was it

[soft kiln]

i dont like quite switches

[shut citrus]

I only want quiet enough switches so it won’t distract others even though it will be in my room

And comfortable

[charred root]

o damn

have u ever used quiet switches doe

[charred root]

i dont like the typing feel of the clicky switches

i need things which is easy to click

[shut citrus]

What’s the difference?

[soft kiln]

the only ones iv used for a short time was Cherry MX Silent Red switches

[charred root]

if u have mx reds, u will get a smooth switch travel
if u have a blue switch u will get a click
which basically is a feel of the switch registering

switches can be of many types

red, green, orange, brown, yellow, red, black, blue

linear aka not ear hurting: red, black, white, clear

clicky and loud af: green, yellow, brown, blue

[shut citrus]

Huh I though brown was better than blue since it’s not louder than blue

[soft kiln]

yellows arnt loud

[charred root]

i can type 100-110 wpm with my laptop
and cant even get 90 with my mechanical keyboard (its cheap btw)

[charred root]

less louder*

[soft kiln]

true

[charred root]

um

i made mistek

its gonna be

less loud

brown, yellow

[soft kiln]

i mean switches are very much preference

[charred root]

yeah

just like the way you like blue

and i despise

[soft kiln]

😆

[shut citrus]

🤷🏾‍♂️ who knows maybe I’ll love brown

[charred root]

:D

yeah u will

its an all rounder

basically

[soft kiln]

browns are decent i dont know why people hate on them

i find them to light

[charred root]

its best for gaming

and typing

like its the best of both worlds

[shut citrus]

Ok but what would you recommended for a wireless keyboard with numpad

[soft kiln]

i like heavy switches cause i have big hands

[shut citrus]

Yeah I saw on the website plus one of the available

[charred root]

wait, what did you order with your k4?

[charred root]

if you are programming
then you type a lot
so i would recommend something light to press
and silent

[soft kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/switch_guides/

[shut citrus]

K4 v2 brown hot swappable rgb

[soft kiln]

i type alot and prefer the heavier switches

[charred root]

:o

brown

u will like it ig

[shut citrus]

Well I’m a student currently and one says don’t get a gaming keyboard so yeah. I was also looking at Logitech Mx keys

[charred root]

its also a very good keyboard

[shut citrus]

But I wanted to use mechanical

[charred root]

wel then

u did the right thing lmao

[shut citrus]

I wonder how long will I have to wait

[charred root]

mine will arrive the day i go away to college

:(

i will be gone for prolly 2 months

[shut citrus]

How long since you ordered it?

[shut citrus]

Good luck

[charred root]

yesterday

[shut citrus]

Same

[charred root]

and they call for comfirmation

it takes then 4-6 working days to deliver

and they haven't called

cos today is friday aka holiday

tmr is also holiday
idk if they will call tmr

[shut citrus]

They haven’t called either

A holiday for them?

[charred root]

the service of everything in my country is trash 😭

[charred root]

yeah

friday

[shut citrus]

Oh ok

[charred root]

its

bangladesh

like

10/10 trash

[shut citrus]

Is that in India?

[charred root]

yeah i expected it xD

no its not in india

this country is so trash that people don't even know that it exists

[soft kiln]

might try out the Varmilo Rose EC Switches

[charred root]

its a smol country beside india, squished between india and myanmar

[charred root]

:O

rich

[soft kiln]

na ill have to save up

[charred root]

o u have a job?

im not old enough

to have a job

[soft kiln]

not at the moment

[shut citrus]

But you’re going to college

Wait how old are you?

If you don’t mind me asking

[shut citrus]

I don’t know what it is but sounds expensive, like everything else going on

[charred root]

im in a special school called college xD

its army school

and very hard to survive in

[charred root]

im 14

i turn

14 this december

[shut citrus]

Oh quite young

[charred root]

yeeee

and spoilt xD

[shut citrus]

Oh makes sense

Lol

[charred root]

u have to like have 1 year of coaching

[shut citrus]

I’m 21 trying to survive life

[charred root]

damn

i wish to migrate to some other nicer country

[agile dagger]

May I ask something about a keyboard?

[soft kiln]

sure

[agile dagger]

Its just if a apex pro is good and if you would recommend it?

[soft kiln]

hmmm never used a SteelSeries keyboard so i cant say

[agile dagger]

oh

[soft kiln]

its looks nice

[agile dagger]

it says this on the website "first-of-its kind adjustable mechanical switches for customizable per-key sensitivity
8x faster response, 5x faster actuation, and 2x durability
OLED Smart Display delivers information straight from games and apps
Series 5000 Aircraft grade aluminum frame
Detachable soft touch magnetic wrist rest" and im just like, "annnd is that good?"

[soft kiln]

im more of a custom keyboard kinda dude

[agile dagger]

oh

[soft kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RakwYgTmmY

[shut citrus]

Based on description sounds like a scam but that’s just me but look at reviews on YouTube or Reddit

[agile dagger]

Thank you

Thank you both

[soft kiln]

no worries 😛

[shut citrus]

No problem

[verbal canopy]

just the usual marketing speak

[rotund scaffold]

i just have to say, im looking back at the deathstalker ultimate w the screans, and i gotta say, its so impressive they could fit so much shit into it, especially for like 2012. I wonder how they did it lmao

it maybe membrane (and maybe not the best to actually type on), but god dam the trackpad is so cool haha. just had to say that

[quasi wasp]

Dang the right shift key doesn’t appear to be stabilised on 75% keyboards

[pallid trout]

It's not, but it's shorter so it's fine.

[quasi wasp]

I would kind of appreciate it if it was stabilised on my keyboard, tho

[sterile geode]

is there xda or dsa keycaps with translucent symbols?

crystal edge is too shiny

[chrome raft]

So I’ve come across a small issue
I’ve got a new “desk” in my room and when typing the desk makes it like twice as loud
Is there a way to dampen it?

[potent void]

deskpads or case foam will help

[chrome raft]

Like slap some of those foam panels onto the bottom of my desk?

[potent void]

no not on your desk, in your keyboard

[chrome raft]

Oh

[potent void]

a deskpad if you didnt know is a giant mousepad

[chrome raft]

Yeah ik

I think I might get one cuss the desk is the main problem

Or maybe I can just put a foam square under my keyboard

[potent void]

yeah that might work

[sleek elk]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003081773396.html?

yes, yes, y e s

[urban glade]

It’s the same width as caps lock…. It doesn’t need to be stabilised …..

[quasi wasp]

Would be a bit smoother when pressing on the far left, tho

[urban glade]

There physically is not space under it for it to be stabilised.

Because it is short and does not need it

If it’s scratching when you press a different side then the switch is bad Cus I don’t get that on my boards lol

[quasi wasp]

Well it’s on the caps lock too

Also on other similarly sized keys without stabilisation

[boreal rivet]

Sounds like a you problem

[quasi wasp]

I don’t think so

Oh I was just releasing the key in a slower manner when i was testing the sides

That does make it seem scratchier, of course

Hm it does seem a tiny bit scratchier, tho

But the same goes for both sides

Or maybe only on the left

[boreal rivet]

Definitely sounds like a you problem

[quasi wasp]

Wdym?

[soft kiln]

you probably need to lube them with dielectric grease

[quasi wasp]

They’re blues

[quasi wasp]

You don’t really notice it when pressing it down and lifting it at regular speed

Or don’t notice it at all

[quasi wasp]

I might have gotten that message wrong

[unkempt dome]

doesn't happen with my akko lavender purple switches

[quasi wasp]

What specifically?

Pretty different switch too

[unkempt dome]

the scratchy part when i press on the side of the switch

[small granite]

https://youtu.be/hBKlbxUBj9Q

Is this a good way to customize a cheap keyboard?

And, the comments tell that I have to desolder a blob to reveal the screw for removing the pcb from the plate, and I don't have desoldering materials, what should I do?

[ionic briar]

that looks like one of the boards is assembled with the wrong pcb by accident and got pass through qc

for the mods, currently speed watching

[ionic briar]

well all the mods are executed right
although i would recommend against the band aid mod shown on the video due to it reintroduces mushiness when bottom out
what he should have done is putting the band aid on the plate where the stab housing sits to reduce housing wobble if theres any
for the painting part, not much to say, other than a friendly reminder to let each coat of paint dry before painting the next coat and optionally sanding between each coat

[small granite]

No, the comments state that, it prevents from people modding it as every guy has that problem, can't seperate the top plate and the pcb as the screw is under the metal that needs to be desoldered I guess

[ionic briar]

thats because the switches are soldered into the pcb

[small granite]

Yeah, thanks man

[ionic briar]

not that the screw got soldered into the pcb

also, you might want to perform the wire balancing mod for the stabs

[small granite]

So I do not have a soldering kit or plan to buy anything related to it, so I can't customize it when I buy it?

[ionic briar]

if yours comes with the soldered version

but on the tecware page, they advertised the board as hotswappable

so if yours come soldered, request a refund or rma for the hotswap version

https://youtu.be/B1TodVGvF2g?t=40

heres how to do the wire balancing mod

[ionic briar]

thats weird

[small granite]

I'm pretty sure the keys are 2 pin hot swappable, this is that I mean in the above picture

[ionic briar]

first time ive heard anyone used electrical solder for securing the screw

[small granite]

And it's not only that guy experiencing the problem

[ionic briar]

even if thats the case

you can still remove the switches and the stabilizer

so you can still do switch lubing and stab tunning

at least

[ionic briar]

and technically you can repaint the case too
if you do your masking properly and dont do wet sanding

[small granite]

Another guy told that I can use pliers, is that safe?

Like tiny pliers

[ionic briar]

not recommended

[ionic briar]

tiny pliers to remove the ball?

[small granite]

Can I replace the foam tho?

[small granite]

Yeah

[ionic briar]

the case foam yes

cause its under the pcb inside the case

well with that you can easily re paint the case then

its the plate that you should not do

[small granite]

So, I can perform all the mods mentioned in that video other than the band aid one and the top plate painting?

Pliers like these btw

Btw, do you recommend any other sub 50$ keyboard @ionic briar

[ionic briar]

well the band aid, instead of sticking the band aid on the pcb, you now stick it on the plate where the stab sits, so you can still do that if necessary
watch the video i sent earlier, it also detail how to do the band aid mod

[ionic briar]

and not recommended
cause it still sticks to the surface of the pcb pretty hard

[small granite]

Ok then

[small granite]

Oh, ok

But, do you know a way to spray paint it without removing the pcb?

[ionic briar]

only do that if the stab housings jiggles around when you move em

[ionic briar]

the plate or the case?

[small granite]

The case, you just need to remove the usb, I'm asking about the plate

[ionic briar]

well some painstaking masking for each switch holes, as well as the underside of the pcb and the gap between the plate and the pcb

[small granite]

Yeah, I'll have it stock

[ionic briar]

yea, just play it safe

[small granite]

Do you reccomend any other keyboard which isn't 60% or 65% under 50 bucks?

[ionic briar]

nope, tbh
pretty hard to beat the phantom at that price
even tho the hotswap socket limits you to only outemu and ktt switches without modding to the switch contact pins, its still hotswap

[small granite]

Yeah, thanks man, btw will boba keys make much of a difference considering the cost?

[ionic briar]

you can still remove the switches out to fix the stabs, the main cause of rattly sound profile in boards

[ionic briar]

you mean gazzew boba switches?

[small granite]

Yeah, the tutorial guy reccomends cherry 6.25u

[small granite]

Yes, those

[ionic briar]

well, you can tune the stock stabs to make it not rattly
and if you can afford it and you want a bigger tactility feel, go for it

pretty good switches

i think the guy in the vid mistakenly labeled the stock stabs as cherry tbh

[small granite]

What ._.

[ionic briar]

cause there are many manufacture that make plate mount stabs
cherry, durock, everglide, gateron just to name a few

[small granite]

Any preferred ones that I should get? Which are pretty cheap

[ionic briar]

i would say everglide or durock if you can

the plastic gateron use is flexible smh and it makes the bottom out feel not as solid as say the cherry knock off

cherry is kinda expensive and hard to find nowdays

[small granite]

Btw, I plan on getting the hyperX pudding keycaps for it, is it good?

[chrome raft]

how to convert membrane to mechanical guys

[ionic briar]

its fine
in the grand scheme of thing, its on the "barely acceptable" level
one of the scale end is gmk/signature plastic caps

[small granite]

Which are good translucent keycaps then??

[ionic briar]

well that
in the shine through category, its pretty good

[ionic briar]

design a hammer over membrane solution for your membrane keyboard.

[chrome raft]

oh shit he actually did it

[ionic briar]

well its a thing for a long long time sir

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Membrane_keyboard

[small granite]

Ok then, so the mods I will be doing is:
Browns lubing / Bobas lubing
Replacing foam
Replacing stabs(everglide or durock) and lubing them with krytox 205-o
HyperX pudding keycaps
Case spray painting
Bandaid mod (according to 3ildcat)
Wire balancing mod

[ionic briar]

well you can cut the lubing brown switches away if you are planning on replacing them with boba

[small granite]

They're factory lubed?

[ionic briar]

no.
more like, you are going to replace them anyway, its not worth the effort and lube wasted to lube them

unless i got that wrong

[small granite]

Are the outemu browns that bad lol

The sound test was kinda good imo

[ionic briar]

well depends on the people, many ppl like the light to almost non existence tactility
what im trying to say is that, you are going to replace and not used the brown in the near future, you might as well min maxing the resources needed to mod the switches

by not modding the switches that you are not gonna use once the boba comes

[small granite]

Ok, I understand what you're saying

And yeah, if budget allows, I'll get the boba switches and not mod the browns

Btw, do you reccomend any tools for easy lubing?

I saw these somewhere btw

[ionic briar]

well a switch holder to hold the stem easier
its basically this mechanical pencil without the pencil part https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005001541043943.html
and yea, maybe a switch opener, tho you can get away with a flathead screwdriver like the guy in your vid

[small granite]

Are these worth it?

[ionic briar]

if you do a lot sure
tho you will either need to get one that can open both mx style prongs and kailh/outemu winglatch

nvm, you just need the mx style one cause you are not going to lube the outemu browns

my brain

[small granite]

I never said I won't lube the browns, I said IF I don't have the budget for the Bobas which is about a chance of 70%

[ionic briar]

ah
well you got my words

[small granite]

Is there a major difference that I will experience? Between the browns and bobas

[ionic briar]

i would say so

[small granite]

There are about 20 websites selling them, what do I do

[ionic briar]

i mean just by looking at the legs (which is what generate the tactility)

[small granite]

Hnmmmmmmmmmmm

[ionic briar]

you can see how much more the tactility will be

cause the curve that generate the tactility is more pronounced and more intense than that of mx browns and clones

[small granite]

So the Bobas have a thock and the browns have a quieter clack? (When both lubed btw)

[ionic briar]

both produced sounds categorized as "clack" (plastic on plastic contact)
with the u4t producing a loud, slightly lower pitch clack than the outemu browns

i do recommend trying the switch stock first

[small granite]

Any good way to test out switches?

[ionic briar]

to see if you like the tactility
cause lubing the legs with thick lube like 205g0 will decrease the tactility if you applied a thick coat

[ionic briar]

well just put it in your board and use it daily for a while instead of the outemu brown?

[small granite]

I meant without spending a lot of money lol

[ionic briar]

ah, then the only option is to demo someone else boards that has boba u4/u4t switch

[small granite]

"someone else" bold of you to assume my friends have mechanical keyboards

[ionic briar]

i dont assume anything
it could be a member in your local mech loop that happens to daily one

[small granite]

The only guy who has a mechanical keyboard that I know is a guy with overlubed outemu blues

[ionic briar]

welp
nothing else you can do then

[small granite]

A k552 ofc

[ionic briar]

even using a switch tester will require you to buy one

which is spending money

[small granite]

Any that you recommend?

[ionic briar]

switch tester?

[small granite]

Yeah

[ionic briar]

none
not representative of the experience you will get on the whole board

cause a typical switch tester will have an assortment of switches on em
only 1 switch per switch lineup
which will only give you the picture of pushing down 1 switch using 1 finger

[small granite]

Hmmm

So no real way to test switches

[ionic briar]

is to test a whole board

[small granite]

https://c.tenor.com/lEDlaVLqWpoAAAAM/invasor-smell-money.gif

[quasi wasp]

When do keys not have plastic on plastic contact?

And @ionic briar what do you think about the magnetic variable force feedback concept?

[wide urchin]

Guys, is your keyboard THOCC?

[quasi wasp]

And also, the fact that clickbar switches actuate before clicking could be an absolute deal breaker for me

[quasi wasp]

It’s click, and I like it

[wide urchin]

Have you seen those videos on YouTube about the THOCCIEST keyboard of all time n suchi? 😄

https://youtu.be/xkcJxf3Bito

[quasi wasp]

Kinda

[wide urchin]

I find them hilarious

[quasi wasp]

Why?

[fierce yoke]

Any opinions on HyperX Alloy Origins Core?
https://www.hyperxgaming.com/keyboards/alloy-origins-core-tenkeyless-mechanical-gaming-keyboard

Or on HyperX in general

[soft kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOFnLntygwE

[wide urchin]

It's just fun to see how we engage with tech in such ways

[quasi wasp]

Nice

[wide urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-yes-approve-approval-i-approve-gif-6191609

[rocky silo]

what part of the pcb is below the delete and above the left arrow key?

i touched the space between delete and left arrow and its warm

[ionic briar]

thats prob where your keyboard led controller sits

or the microcontroller

[forest sigil]

this is a razer

[pallid trout]

[stoic timber]

Anyone knows any RGB backlit?

[rocky silo]

are royal kludge keyboards good?

like in durability and quality

[pallid trout]

My brother has an RK84 and it's alright. But they are inexpensive.

[small granite]

Get a phantom tecware

And intensely mod it

You can go up to yesterday, I asked @ionic briar about modding it, so yeah. It's a great keyboard

But you should remember it's only 2 pin outemu hot swappable (all switches manufactured by outemu)

[pallid trout]

Don't need to worry about 2-pins on an RK84

[small granite]

Yeah, but considering the COST of the rk 84, the tecware phantom will give you a solid board and a pcb, along with some extra cash to change the stabs, lube the switches, better foam, keycaps etc

It's one of the best tkl at the price, 46 usd

But those stock stabilizers

[pallid trout]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Lube and clip-on stabs aren't too expensive anyway. Like $15-20 USD for both.

[winter rock]

my fav keyboard the everst max

[boreal rivet]

https://mountain.gg/keyboards/everest-max/

[small granite]

Yeah it's kinda good but the mx browns

[fierce yoke]

Any opinions on HyperX Alloy Origins Core?
https://www.hyperxgaming.com/keyboards/alloy-origins-core-tenkeyless-mechanical-gaming-keyboard

[soft kiln]

https://imgur.com/a/zk7mdKH 💦

[inland elbow]

aaaqaaaASAA

[deep quarry]

what type of spring do I put in my akko red roses

[past vortex]

so tiny keybaord

[distant mirage]

Jumping on the bandwagon

[dapper talon]

whats a decent, full size keyboard with brown/brown style switches? with rgb

i was thinking about one of the keychron keyboards

[pallid trout]

It's hotswap my guy

[thick grail]

guys i need the most quiet gaming keyboard you can get , but i need to have a volume rocker and multimedia keys (dedicated) any recomendations ?

[winter rock]

yea lol

[small granite]

Yes, I do know that

Is there any good 75 or tkl wireless, RGB keyboard under 100usd?

[rocky silo]

are keychron boards worth it? I'm looking at whether to get the Keychron K6 and the Royal Kludge RK855

[chrome raft]

Yo sus

@winter rock sos

[winter rock]

sus

[balmy flare]

I copped a Keyboard on ebay today

$25 for a Apex 5

Not my picture

[ionic briar]

fair price for that board

[balmy flare]

Yea

[ionic briar]

cause i just look at the site
and its 120 for a rubber dome with click leaf

which is yikes

[pallid trout]

bruhhh

$25 is absolutely a steal for that thing

Even if it does have rubber domes

[fiery vale]

Cherry MY Keyboard for 15€ or just normal membrane keyboard for the same price?

[gilded gyro]

Normal Membrane

[fiery vale]

Seriously that bad? 😄

[gilded gyro]

Yes

MY isn't even mechanical iirc

it's membrane

[fiery vale]

Mechanical is not really a good term

Model M is considered mechanical, yet it also boasts a membrane

Might still buy it just for the keycaps

These look really good

[pallid trout]

That's because the tactile event of a buckling spring does not use the membrane, which is only used to create the electrical contact needed to send a signal.

Membrane boards, on the other hand, are membrane through and through, both in its actuation and in its tactility.

An aluminum desk with steel screws is still an aluminum desk.

[boreal rivet]

the only gmk worth buying

[pallid trout]

Still part membrane, but you don't really see people calling buckling springs "membranes". They just don't feel like them at all.

[fading tundra]

What price should a full kit Cherry MX Bronze Speed switches have

[gilded gyro]

Cherry doesn't make Bronze Speed

even then you don't want cherry switches

[fading tundra]

Sry got mixed up with Kalih

[gilded gyro]

Bronze Speed is Kailh I think

Should be around 60$ @fading tundra

[fading tundra]

Ok thx

[gilded gyro]

the EVGA Z15 is 70$

for hot swap as well

[lilac grotto]

Gat yellows are gonna arrive in 5 days

Lets hope they're good

[tight salmon]

my requirements for a keyboard
it types - required
keys dont get stuck randomly - optional

[sleek elk]

guys,

cheapest die-sub keycap set?

[charred garden]

I bought a ducky one 2 sf and still happy with it after a year

Switch go click

[chrome raft]

what do you guys think of keychron k2 as a first mechanical keyboard for someone

[gilded gyro]

it's fine

as long as its hotswap it's fine

[chrome raft]

k tnx

[fiery vale]

Then the integrated domes in some alps switches aren't mechanical either as the membrane is both used in actuation as well as in the tactility, yet they are considered mechanical.

[wide urchin]

Unless they're Browns

[gilded gyro]

Browns are even worse

[wide urchin]

BLASPHEMY!

Browns are GOAT

[urban glade]

based

i use only cherry mx brown

[wide urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-yes-approve-approval-i-approve-gif-6191609

[small granite]

Is there any good 75 or tkl wireless, RGB keyboard under 100usd?

[urban glade]

@small granite what bro

why that reaction

every mx board i use mx browns

[small granite]

I'm more of a mx blacks guy

[urban glade]

i dont like linears much

[small granite]

But everyone has their opinions tho (other than those people who like blues)

[urban glade]

only mx blacks i have are cherry boards i've taken the caps and other parts from

i have 1 set of vint blues

[small granite]

I see

Are the rk 84s good?

[soft kiln]

Kailh BOX Ancient Gray switches 🥵 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpePMqqjbCo

[chrome raft]

Hello. Keyboards got a bit confusing sinse I made the switch to Logitech 20 years ago. Looking for a 60% wireless one. Is Reddragon a good brand

[urban glade]

hhkb hybrid is the best bluetooth 60%

[chrome raft]

Those look nice. Kinda.want to stay more wallet friendly though

[chrome raft]

My cooler master SK 650 is double typing. Like I’ll hit a key and it’ll occasionally not put out a character, or put out two characters. Any thoughts? I’m just worried it’s a problem with the entire lineup as I’m sure I’m still within warranty period

[unkempt dome]

If you are within warranty then I would rma ...

Redragon is ok ... you won't have a premium product for sure ...

Check the kemove snowfox, gk61 or rk61... or maybe the gmmk in 60%@chrome raft

[chrome raft]

Kk thank you

[agile dirge]

red dragon lighting sucks but if u dont care go for it

[chrome raft]

What would you recommend in the budget friendly, won't be used for gaming price range

[copper yew]

hello, am new here and I am looking for a recommendation for a keyboard. Anyone got suggestions?

[gilded gyro]

budget and country?

[fading tundra]

Should I buy the EVGA Z15 for 75€ or the Z20 for around 100€

[gilded gyro]

Z20 big suck

Z15 is hot swap with any MX switch

Z20 is just random optical switch board

[fading tundra]

Hot swap isn't that important for me forgot to mention that

[gilded gyro]

I mean, like what if a switch dies

you're just going to throw the keyboard away?

[fading tundra]

Ok ya got me

Thx

[gilded gyro]

Hot Swap also allows you to do stuff like lube stabilizers, etc @fading tundra

like simple, quick keyboard mods that help alot

[summer fractal]

imagine unironically buying an EVGA keyboard

seems like almost the new modern of buying a gigabyte mechanical keyboard

get a keychron or something.

[fading tundra]

Just a question but is it possible to swap the keyboard layout completely (if yes I would buy new keycaps) like from AZERTY to QWERTZ (I live in Germany)

E.g. with a Razer, Logitech,... keyboard with software control

[summer fractal]

you can actually re-map any keyboard, there are software that do it

[fading tundra]

I know but at this scale? (e.g. the letter "ä" only exists in German)

[summer fractal]

you might be able to convert the layout and then re-map, if the program allows to

[soft kiln]

u can get a german keycap set

[fading tundra]

I know but I don't know if the keyboard will give me an "ä" after remapping

[soft kiln]

ahhhhh i see

[urban glade]

the keyboard sends keycodes, not the actual symbols. these keycodes are universal across all languages, it's the layout option in your operating system that determines what it actually outputs. @fading tundra

[fading tundra]

Oh ok thx

[urban glade]

nothing will have to be changed in the keyboard software

just have correct language in OS and it will work

[fading tundra]

So the keycodes will always be the same?

But I this means I can change the interpretation of the PC right?

[urban glade]

keycodes always the same, correct

i'm not sure i understand you sorry

[copper yew]

@gilded gyro singapore and idk, like USD 150?

mainly use for work where I do a lot of typing and I use macros a lot

[gilded gyro]

Just pick up a hotswap RK @copper yew

[copper yew]

currently uses g910

[gilded gyro]

Oh Macros

Why do you want to change?

[copper yew]

one of the 2 dies

I was also looking at the Z20 which seems similar

[gilded gyro]

Just get whatever keyboard that has enough keys

What about z15? @copper yew

If you need the extra keys then Z20 is fine

[copper yew]

I want the extra rows of keys and the fact that it's opto or something is nice

is there any hot swap keyboard with extended layout like that?

like a corsair k95 hot swap ™️

[gilded gyro]

Not that I know of

[copper yew]

sad

most of the newer boards are smaller ones

[gilded gyro]

Just go Z20

Corsair is quite bad

[soft kiln]

small keyboard master race

[gilded gyro]

Why not just get a macro pad though @copper yew

[copper yew]

because I don't like them

and it's easier to have just the one keyboard with extended layout

oh also, I tried a hhkb like keyboard with a macropad and I ended up just pushing the macropad above the mouse and into the leg of my display which is annoying since my mouse isn't wireless

I know a friend of mine who have the K100, I am going to ask him how it is as well

but do you know how well the z20 is @gilded gyro

[gilded gyro]

It's vetter

[copper yew]

like software and such?

@rugged vapor how is the K100 bud

[rugged vapor]

wut?

[gilded gyro]

Quite good

[copper yew]

it's like the g hub thing from logitech?

[violet geyser]

g305 or basilisk x hyperspeed

?

[agile dirge]

yea

[agile dirge]

obv u go witht the one that maximizes comfort

or is more comfy

[violet geyser]

?

[agile dirge]

which one fits ur hands better

pick that one

[violet geyser]

how do i know this when im looking at pcpartpicker.com?

[unkempt dome]

Check reviews of both, they often compare them to other mouse with similar shape and grip

[distant mirage]

My 40% Mercutio was completed last night. Video game XDA keycaps, and Akko CS Ocean Blue switches

[plush orchid]

sheesh

[pallid trout]

Alright that Famicom colourway is just

Where did you get them?

[distant mirage]

Here.. the set comes with a ton of caps, pretty good quality too. Very good deal IMO: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08QV56WRW/

[pallid trout]

MVP

$50 USD too

[blazing star]

Anyone got macro pad suggestions?

[pallid trout]

Budget?

[blazing star]

$60

I have switches too

Or I should lmao

[pallid trout]

I think that's Razer Cyanosa territory, no?

Taran's Hasu USB-to-USB converter touches on it as a macro pad.

[soft kiln]

i think 1up keyboards have macro pads but youll need to solder

[soft kiln]

import fees

[blazing star]

Lemme check

[blazing star]

I just need a macro pad

Not a full keyboard

[hollow niche]

I am looking for the silent most stealthiest keyboard (full Keyboard with numpad). Where should I start looking for, mech/membrane doesn't matter, objective is to make no noise at night while others sleeping.

[pallid trout]

Any chiclet/scissor keyboard will be quieter than the majority of mechs out there, unless you don't mind splurging for o-ringed MX Zilents.

But you will still hear it regardless. Can't do much to completely dampen mechanical movement.

[hollow niche]

just starting so sure will start looking at chiclet/scissor keyboard. I was clueless so I have a starting point now.

[pallid trout]

Aight.

[hollow niche]

splurging for o-ringed MX Zilents alien language as of now 😂

[pallid trout]

Don't worry

All you need to know is that they're silent af
This is a sound test without o-rings to dampen them.
https://youtu.be/ijpk5fJHiek

And that they're expensive.

Like, over $1 a switch.

When most switches go for 30-75% of that price.

[main pumice]

ngl

they sound like a scratchy hollow membrane keyboard

to me

[hollow niche]

okay

lemme check

loud

[lilac grotto]

Scissor switches