peripherals

[ionic briar]

these are different keycap standards
and as you can see, they are totally different from one to another

[crimson isle]

Never even noticed that they are that different, lel

SA looking chonky

looks like marshmallows

[ionic briar]

yea
they also has the deepest sound profile out of all keycap profile iirc

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Signature_Plastics_SA_family

[crimson isle]

I really just prefer custom because I dislike cherry switches

[crimson isle]

big chonkers

[worn storm]

In before cherry sells a hotswap board... >.<

Really though, does seem unlikely

[ionic briar]

i mean technically these are a thing already with stuff like kemove snowfox offering cherry mx options

[worn storm]

Not really a "made by cherry" product though is it?

[ionic briar]

yea true
tho you dont see any made by gateron board as well so 🤷‍♂️

[crimson isle]

I hate cherry switches so much, that I've always just ended up buying some cheapo board to avoid the torture of using those cherry switches

there are some that are fine, just not with the ones you find in the usual boards from your local store..

[worn storm]

I don't really get the cherry hate personally. They make uninteresting but reliable mechanical switches.

[ionic briar]

you prob experienced the bad end of cherry switches
scratchy sand push feel
thing with cherry switches, they can feel good, just that it takes time to cherry picked the good ones out like you said
pun not intended

[crimson isle]

pretty much

[worn storm]

Haven't had much issue with scratchy MX myself, but only really use their linears + browns

[ionic briar]

what boards do you have tho?

[worn storm]

I think more gateron produts are in my parts bin at this point than any other brand

[worn storm]

Pair of ergodox, filco majestouch, couple older ducky boards, a wasd v1, k-type, CTRL, GMMK Pro

[crimson isle]

me who only just ordered a second:

[ionic briar]

yea
like half of the boards actually takes time to sort out their switches

[worn storm]

Ah, bit of a QC issue with the cheaper boards or something?

[ionic briar]

yea
we are talking about the gamer boards
that is like the face of cherry nowdays

they use whatever comes into their door

[worn storm]

Fair enough, closest thing to a gamer board I own is probably the GMMK Pro and thats mostly due to the manufacturer rather than the product

[ionic briar]

stuff like leopolds has good hyperglides, so much so i see ppl desoldering em for use in custom

[crimson isle]

currently just waiting for a certain keyboard to start, which seems to be Q4 2021-Q1 2022

[chrome raft]

Oh Leopolds come with hyperglides that's nice of them

[ionic briar]

keychron q1 about to drop tho
another 75% to compete with the gmmk pro

[worn storm]

Daily drivers atm are the wasd v1, filco majestouch and GMMK Pro. Both massdrop products are dead.

[crimson isle]

75%, pretty much the minimum for anything that isn't gaming

loss of F keys hurts to much

[ionic briar]

idk how can i be fine with 60%

[worn storm]

I tried a 60% at work for a while, couldn't keep up on it

[ionic briar]

tho tbh, price is a constrain for me

[worn storm]

Also tried the first ergodox, same problem

[ionic briar]

especially when sometimes i will accidentally hit the function key at the edge

[crimson isle]

for my usual usage, I prefer just having F keys, arrows, delete key, etc

[ionic briar]

yea
i dont use them often, thats prob why i dont miss em much

[crimson isle]

couldn't care less about the numpad

well, I do care about the numpad, when I have one... because it takes away half the space of my mouse

[worn storm]

I don't mind a 75% or TKL, could probably get by with whatever the hell you'd call it if you just ended a standard board before the nav cluster entirely

[crimson isle]

it hurts my soul when a good new board is released, and it is full size

[worn storm]

I mean who is releasing enthusiast fullsize boards? They seem to be one of the rarest

[crimson isle]

thankfully, yes.. but I've had a few I ended up just skipping entirely, even though I loved the appearance

[worn storm]

Seems like most of the options for good fullsize boards are still OEM style boards like filco/ducky/leopold ect

[crimson isle]

should just be called "oversize" instead of "fullsize"

full size for many is just 75%, 80%, and such

and extra numpad is just an add-on kinda thing

[worn storm]

shrug Never really been bothered by board size, have used much bigger boards than the typical fullsize a few times.

[crimson isle]

I just don't want chonky width, it is fine when it is a large square

numpad above the F keys would be preferred for me actually

[pallid trout]

Full size for many is not 75%.
The majority of keyboards out there are full 100%'s, and you can tell by looking at the layout of almost every office keyboard out there.

[crimson isle]

you mean the group of people that use numpad a lot, and aren't even in the audience of these keyboards?

[worn storm]

Who is only making fullsize enthusiast boards at all?

[crimson isle]

I mean, there are enough that only make 100% for a certain model

[worn storm]

Who we talking about here? Nothing comes to mind

[crimson isle]

If you actually buy the chassis and all parts

you have enough places that only have one size for a whole diff appearance

I hate how my mind just goes like this, not bothering with doing any proper english ever

[worn storm]

Sure, but who is actually selling enthusiast/custom fullsize boards?

[pallid trout]

I'm saying that the call to adjust the existing nomenclature isn't needed, since the current 100% layout is what's dominant out there.

[worn storm]

Pretty much, a standard is a standard for a reason. Even if ISO enter should be considered a warcrime >.<

[crimson isle]

is it actually the most common, when also counting laptop keyboard though

[potent void]

Yup..sold out already

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q1?variant=39405021069401

[worn storm]

Guess we'll see how it shakes out when units make it to peoples door

[potent void]

I wanted to get one for my birthday but I guess that’s not happening :(

[worn storm]

Hopefully their stabs aren't as awful as glorious's

[potent void]

Hopefully. In my experience they’re fine

A tad rattley but fine

[worn storm]

They claim a new design so who knows

[potent void]

That they do

[pallid trout]

Considering laptop keyboards are constrained by the physical size of the laptop, making it impossible to comfortably fit a 100% in a 13" model without sacrificing ergonomics, yes.

External keyboards don't have such limitations. They can be as large or as small as you wish.

[worn storm]

Even the layouts they do manage to cram in 13" are terrible ergonomically though

[potent void]

which color do you guys like?

[pallid trout]

Depends on the laptop, IMHO.

I like the blue; if it were brighter it would be a (hypothetical) insta-buy.

[worn storm]

Can't say I love any of them personally. I'd like either a more raw silver or a deeper black

[ionic briar]

yea
its a navy blue kind of blue

[pallid trout]

Don't they have an e-white though?

[worn storm]

The colors they picked just look.... plasticy

[potent void]

they sent a survey out for color options. i said they should release more then just 3 options because that would be more fun. sadly they didnt do that

[pallid trout]

I swear they had an e-white.

[worn storm]

That or their renderer failed their job >.<

[pallid trout]

I know people were disappointed by the GMMK Pro lacking that option so it would make sense for them to clamour for it here.

[worn storm]

The pro did a lot wrong despite getting a lot right. I don't hate the product but I can't say I'm not a little disapointed I had to work on it so much to make it good

[potent void]

it does look like they tried to recreate Glourious' "arctic white" with the space gray one

[worn storm]

Honestly the knob on the pro bugs me the most with how much it binds >.<
Stabs were a close second though and got replaced

[potent void]

am i able to order the keyboard with keycaps but no switches?

cuz it seems that way

[pallid trout]

For a first attempt they did a really nice job. Newbies wouldn't be disappointed at all unless they were expecting a sound similar to the Jelly Epoch or the ai03 Vega lol

To be fair, you can approach that sound with a foam mod.

[worn storm]

I mean the spacebar completely failing to actuate with the switches they sold to me with the board is pretty bad

[pallid trout]

oof
Mine's completely fine. Have you contacted them about that yet?

[worn storm]

Nah, just fixed the problem myself.

They massively over-lubed the stabs to the point where a gat clear just didn't have enough spring to reset after being pressed down

[crimson isle]

oh god

[pallid trout]

Ahhhhh. I didn't know that prevented it from actuating in the first place. My space bar felt like it was struggling to pop back up, so you're not alone.
I do plan to swap the stabs with Durock V2's but I haven't gotten around to that yet. Not sure what mods I should do with them.

But yeah. In the end, it's fine now. Rattly as hell but works much better.

[worn storm]

I ended up just using plate stabs I had left over from past builds and haven't had a problem since

Also ended up realizing gat clears aren't my thing so those are in the parts box too >.<

ended up stealing the switches off my dead k-type

[crimson isle]

just get 1000 of all switches in existence

[potent void]

if i get the q1 hopefully i can use my akko switches i tried to use in another keyboard

[worn storm]

some switches are just destined to always end up back in the parts box

[crimson isle]

just try and get the hardest click ever

[potent void]

box jades

thicc cliccs

[crimson isle]

you can probably get worse

[pallid trout]

It's 5-pin, no?

[potent void]

yeah it is

cs switches are 3 tho

[worn storm]

box jades CLICK

[pallid trout]

So you can still use them.

[crimson isle]

make them worse

[potent void]

mhm

[pallid trout]

They just won't have the two stabilizing legs.

[worn storm]

Don't think I even own any 5-leg switches, never done a pcb mount build

[crimson isle]

Just give me some 80db click switches

and put like 100-200 gram springs in them or smth

yes, I just want to hurt my soul

[ionic briar]

I think that's the definition of box navy?
Unless I misremembered the spring weight on those

[worn storm]

Lol, you want revenge at someone at the offfice it sounds like

[potent void]

get the banned switches

[ionic briar]

Super Chad navy
500g bottom out spring

[worn storm]

Box jades on a super thin aluminum plate handwired PING like crazy

[ionic briar]

Model m em up

[crimson isle]

nah, I just hate myself, and want to give myself finger exercise and some annoying sound for the neighbours and their constant screaming at their screeching child

just be like have some 10 hour clicking, from waking up to going to sleep

starting from me waking up, aka 4:30, until 21:30

so... how can I get the loudest switches ever?
I am willing to pay 5000 eur to drown out their screaming, screeching and crying with clicking

while also destroying their ears, while I wear some fully closed off headphones

[pallid trout]

So
Brass plate
stiff as fuck case
Zero lube
Metal keycaps
210g springs
Cherry blue or Kailh box clickies

And adjusting your typing style to match those with neckbeards who debate on 4chan 24/7

AKA literally slamming the keys down

[crimson isle]

<<< actually kicks against the wall after 30 minutes of screeching

just shut up with all that screaming at your screeching 2 year old

I hate living in an apartment with hollow walls...

[worn storm]

Don't forget the 7 foot parabolic dish for optimal noise directionality

[pallid trout]

that too lol

[crimson isle]

I should just build in some clicky switches into the wall, and actually use them... considering they are hollow, you'll end up with a lot of noise in there

[pallid trout]

Is filing a noise complaints with the apartment staff possible?

[crimson isle]

country allows you to be noisy af until 12:00...

[worn storm]

if not, 15" SVS subs are on sale I think

[crimson isle]

12:00 to 4:00 you need to be quiet, and that is it

[pallid trout]

bruh

I guess sound treatment or noise cancelling headphones are in order.

[crimson isle]

don't ask me how often I've had neighbours blasting loud music and singing until 12:00, having a party every week, with family and 20 children stamping on the floor

[worn storm]

May as well just skip to beating them at their own game rather than making concessions by the sounds of it

[crimson isle]

why do you think I want the clickiest keyboard possible

[worn storm]

Can get a lot of subwoofer for what you'd spend on such a keeb though

[crimson isle]

me being someone who would buy 6000 euro headphones, cannot afford to listen to garbage

I am fine with a keyboard as loud as a jet engine though

[worn storm]

So what your saying is we get some really nice subs

[crimson isle]

at least it is realistic

the cringe I get from my own message, lel

[worn storm]

hehe

[crimson isle]

"audiophile community"

[crimson isle]

I don't like bass tho

though I would like a keyboard so loud it shakes the walls

[worn storm]

Sometimes its about sound quality, sometimes its about oneupmanship with the neighbor.

[crimson isle]

It is honestly sad it would be legal to jump all day and do basketball in here until 12:00 or something

I want to move outta this country partly because of it

one of three major reasons

[worn storm]

Sounds like you just need to find a place that isn't an apartment

[crimson isle]

there is such thing as

not being a millionaire

because all of those are 800k+

barely even got a few thousand

funny thing is I ain't even 19 yet

25 august is my 19th

[worn storm]

Sounds like a messed up housing market, got my place with a down payment of 10k

[crimson isle]

I am actually thinking about moving to scandinavia, which actually has such pricing still

[crimson isle]

also, it is more so just all housing that isn't an apartment, is either something like 20-50 rooms, or a place you have to buy when it gets built, and move in a few years later

or just a single room in the middle of nowhere, requiring you to get a car, and ends up costing like 5000 a month

[naive terrace]

does someone know of a "moonlander ergo" keyboard alternative that ships from europe (cause of customs)?

[balmy moon]

Uh quick quesiton

Is it fine to use white lithium grease spray to lube the keyboard stabs?

[balmy moon]

The one I have says it's safe to use on plastic

[iron relic]

So idk if this is the right place to ask , is there a layout file or something that i could give to my gf to draw some custom stuff on a keycap like space or enter and have it printed.

[potent void]

Are you talking about custom keycaps? Or macros? Or something else?

[iron relic]

keycaps

[ionic briar]

You can draw on waterslide decals and then transfer it onto some blank caps

[warped flower]

Logitech keyboard is s+

Especially the g213 prodigy

Because for a small price of just 40 dollars

You get RGB

and

[potent void]

Logitech keyboards aren’t that great in my opinion. If you just want rgb, sure I guess. But you can get way better boards for the price

They have some that are good

[chrome raft]

imo none of them are good, the switches on all of them are quite bad

even their newest LP gaming keyboard uses the cheapest Kailh LP

[fiery acorn]

Epic gaymer moment

Lol

[chrome raft]

Razer

big oof

[tiny moon]

is k550 worth it???

[pale sparrow]

which kb is that?

[chrome raft]

no

[chrome raft]

Salmon Switches ordered PogU

about to get my click bars without the click

[tiny moon]

why is that bad its an mechanical keyboard good price too

[chrome raft]

The thing is like 77$

Get a tecware phantom or something instead

or like the k551

[tiny moon]

its not 77 its 14 dollars

XD

[chrome raft]

if it's on sale then its ok

that's all it's worth anyways

[tiny moon]

but what kind of k550 u were referring?

[chrome raft]

redragon k550

[tiny moon]

yeah the gigaware what i meant

[chrome raft]

I suppose you're referring to some TKL with dustproof outemus?

[tiny moon]

yes

[chrome raft]

then it's ok

can't be worse than membrane or corsair or logitech or razer

[tiny moon]

Yep they click fast too

[chrome raft]

I guess

[tiny moon]

i only need it for 1 game lol

[chrome raft]

It's just a basic dustproof outemu keeb

like they're nothing special they're just cheap

Can't afford a T-dagger though? @tiny moon

[tiny moon]

no

i meant yes sorry

[chrome raft]

then get that one @tiny moon

Corvette is TKL while escort is 100%

[tiny moon]

its kinda expensive than the k550

[chrome raft]

I mean it's better built

[tiny moon]

currently the k550 is discount on us

[chrome raft]

then if you really really can't then just get the K550

[chrome raft]

Nice

[wheat vigil]

GMMK white ice or Varmilo VA87M Sea Melody?

nvm, the store near me only has brown switches, trying to look for something with red switches

If you guys have any other recommendations for a TKL with red switches, I'd appreciate that

[main pumice]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shopindex/.php?l=product_detail&p=4284 good or no

bruh

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shopindex/.php?l=product_detail&p=4284

idk y it doesnt work

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4284

finally

[chrome raft]

@main pumice get a Varmillo instead

or a Keychron hot swap

Ducky is long past their glory days

no they make shitty preipherals

that have le gamer aesthetic

[ionic briar]

https://kono.store/collections/all-products-list/products/hexgears-nova-mechanical-keyboard

or this thing

or the good ole fc750r from leopold

[wheat vigil]

So, even though it's not directed to me, I'm just gonna get the Varmilo VA87M Sea Meloday since you said they were good

[chrome raft]

Yeah they're great, especially there keycaps

[wheat vigil]

I was attracted to them because of their aesthetics at first. Just wanted to make sure the quality was just as good

[chrome raft]

They're average

[wheat vigil]

Well, I needed a replacement for my G.Skill KM570 anyways

[ionic briar]

i would say one of the best prebuilt boards you can get

[main pumice]

would get keychron but keys r ugly and dk wat keys to buy if i get it

[ionic briar]

not as good as leopolds tho

[ionic briar]

the hexgears nova is not good enough for you?

[wheat vigil]

You're talking about varmilo?

[ionic briar]

yep

[wheat vigil]

Oh, damn, thanks

[fiery acorn]

Razer cynosa v2

Um

[fading zinc]

the keyswitch got stuck to my keycap and now it doesnt work if i solder the switch will it fix it?

[potent void]

Tsk tsk

[cosmic python]

should i get a new keyboard to replace this old thing also cause in the dark i can't see the keys does anyone recommend a keyboard with full white light

[west jackal]

Do you care about keeb size?

If you are fine with a 60%, I reccomend a gk61

If you only care about gateron optical switches, the sk64/sk61 is a good choice as well

[cosmic python]

ok

thank you

[west jackal]

What is your price range?

[cosmic python]

im saving up but right now about 20 to 40

[west jackal]

Ah, if you can't afford the gk61, there is a decent redragon tkl

[cosmic python]

oh

[west jackal]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.redragonzone.com/products/redragon-k552-kumara-led-backlit-mechanical-gaming-keyboard&ved=2ahUKEwjwn7HsyazyAhXCfH0KHaEZCgwQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3Xs3meGhY-g6HRPousH060

[cosmic python]

am i able to customize the keys to white cause thats all i pretty much need

[west jackal]

Keycaps?

[cosmic python]

yeah

the letters are transparent i guess

[west jackal]

Oh, they come with white or black keycaps (the backlight can be seen through the letters)

If you care about rgb make sure you buy the version with rgb

[cosmic python]

ok

good info

[chrome raft]

@cosmic python tecware phantom might fit as well in your budget and it's better than redragon by quite alot

[warped flower]

Just buy a Logitech keyboard 🙄

[chrome raft]

dont u dare

[balmy moon]

You could grab a EpoMaker GK68X, they're on sale on Amazon but you will spend $60

[pallid trout]

If you have like $20 the K120 is your only good option lol

[balmy moon]

You get a $10 extra discount.. but taxes will bump it up to $62 (based on the taxes for my state, Louisiana)

If you don't get slapped by taxes, then it'll just be $56

Now im not sure if that's the price if you don't have Amazon prime >.>

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08F7NKY55/

That's the keyboard I just got the other day, it's nice so far. Software's a bit clunky but you can customize the lights and keys (and if you're like me and using Linux, there's a package that's compiled to run on there that someone in the community made, even Epomaker references it in their extended manual :D)

[hexed zealot]

The Logitech G915 wireless keyboard doesn't come in a Belgian (period) azerty layout as far as i'm aware. Is it possible to get custom keycaps for such a layout?
The keycaps would be for kailh choc switches.

[chrome raft]

Logitech doesn't use chocs though

[hexed zealot]

I believe they do on their low profile G915 keyboard. Kailh tweeted that it uses their choc switches after all

If not, enlighten me which ones they use, then i can google to see if i can find some customs.

[chrome raft]

The tweet said that they used different ones @hexed zealot

Though Kailh's LP switches should all have the same top

Kailh doesn't make just chocs

[hexed zealot]

yeah i know, any idea what i have to search for to find keycaps that fit that keyboard?

[chrome raft]

try aliexpress

[hexed zealot]

well yeah, but i mean what type of keycaps fits that keyboard? I don't really know how they're called

Before i thought i had to search for keycaps that fit choch switches. But apparently not?

[chrome raft]

no you need choc switches

but since Logi uses custom layout literally nothing will fit @hexed zealot

the bottom row iirc

Logi and DareU have problems with LP keycap sets

[cosmic python]

aight

[chrome raft]

Can I put an 3 pin switch into an 5 pin board?

[worn storm]

yes

[rocky fog]

What's a good mechanical keyboard that's good for gaming and typing????

[worn storm]

unpopular opinion: get an oem mx brown board

[main pumice]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3609 pro?

[chrome raft]

I mean there are 40$ outemu brown boards with outemu hot swap

[worn storm]

seems like most of the ultra cheap hotswap boards Ive seen thus far are of questionable quality

[chrome raft]

Tecware Phantom

Outemu only hotswap but they're basically glorious gmmks @worn storm

They do share the same OEM after all

[worn storm]

being stuck with outemu is rough

Think i'd rather shill the gmmk at that point

[chrome raft]

You pay 40$ though @worn storm

I mean Outemu ~ Cherry

[verbal canopy]

just get a keychron hotswap instead

[crimson isle]

just a question but... is it a good enough reason to want to do it because your neighbours are currently playing like some 80s music at full blast with giant sub woofer, while dancing with their screeching 2 year old for 6 hours in a row?

[chrome raft]

I mean that is pretty expensive

[verbal canopy]

How so?

[chrome raft]

Yeah Tecware Phantom is 10$ cheaper for a kid that's alot of money @verbal canopy

[verbal canopy]

I'm pretty sure the keychron isn't outemu hotswaps either.

I'm rolling my eyes, $10 worth is just some negotiation with their parents

[worn storm]

of course, you just need to out-woofer them

[potent void]

There there… virtual pat

[worn storm]

cries in rainbow vomit gamerboards

[unkempt dome]

You can put akko switches in outemu hotswap socket too ... and I heard that boba can fit in there too

[elder stone]

Gazzew = Outemu

just for reference

[lofty hull]

wdym they are the best things known to man

[elder stone]

not that I know of

then again, that would be the third OEM I hear for it

[candid oar]

hey guys

have you guys ever found a mouse mat that fits perfectly under your keyboard

i don’t want to cover my desk with a mouse mat but i want to dampen the noise

do you think it’s worth cutting a mousepad up?

[verbal canopy]

Akko is KTT

[verbal canopy]

https://keebmat.com/

[candid oar]

you're a god amongst men

[main pumice]

wtf is the point

[pallid trout]

Point of what?

[main pumice]

nvm

am not gonna ask anymore

[lunar hemlock]

Idk if this should go here or in #tech-support or somewhere else, but I was at a store where some of their stuff is cheaper than most places, and I bought a "4 in 1 gaming kit" that came with keyboard, mouse, headset, and mousepad

My problem is idk how to get the keyboard to light up (it has rgb lettering), and I use Linux, not Windows. Debian-based Linux distros. Mostly MX Linux; currently I'm using AVL-MXE which is derived from MX Linux and ships a low-latency kernel.

It would be nice if it's just a button or button combo on the keyboard that activates it and I just didn't notice before

The keyboard brand appears to be lvlup

[lunar hemlock]

Ok, I plugged it into my phone using an adaptor and I managed to get it lit up while it's plugged into my phone, but it really isn't doing any light stuff when plugged into my computer

[chrome raft]

Are these compatible with each other?

[chrome raft]

Cherry MX Browns are obviously the best switches..

But still, I prefer membrane keyboards.

I think they sound.. better.

Who lubes their switches? It sounds way better without lube.

I can hear the screeching already.

[lilac grotto]

I believe yes

[narrow bluff]

Do they even sound?

[chrome raft]

nah bro they just hurt to listen to

like, take out the springs from mx browns and put them in clears

that would be nice

like, the tactile bump of clears without the heavy springs

GODDAMN

anyways, back to talking about stuff with my dad

goobai

@chrome raft those switches look quite expensive, have you tried cuxiu?

[wraith shard]

legit breaks stems

[chrome raft]

110 pesos for gat yellows

[narrow bluff]

I was talking about membrane keyboards

[chrome raft]

._.

sorry

im sleep deprived

smh

i spent the whole night watching gamers nexus

[unkempt dome]

Yes I knew that ... that's why they fit

[unkempt dome]

Yeah I tested it about 2 weeks ago when I got my akko ocean blue and lavender purple ... they are a pain to remove from the socket tho so I would not suggest swapping them too often ... but I didn't have to file or mod anything to put one in ... I will wait to do the complete board tho cause I want to mod it before putting all the switches there

[chrome raft]

Where?

https://shopee.ph/cuxiu.ph
@chrome raft

like 110 php that's Milky yellow pricing @chrome raft

Though those are actually milky blacks

[rotund osprey]

Im looking for a new keyboard and was wondering which was better the hyperx alloy elite 2 or the corsair k70 rgb mk.2?

[chrome raft]

Hyper X Origins core those two keebs you listed are pretty trash

Keychron C1 HotSwap if you want a good keyboard @rotund osprey

that's also cheaper than the Origins Core

[rotund osprey]

i looked at the origins core but cant find a uk layout version and thats the same problem with the C1

[chrome raft]

https://www.cclonline.com/product/350160/HX-KB6RDX-UK/Keyboards/HyperX-Alloy-Origins-RGB-Gaming-Keyboard/KBD2186/ this thing right?

The weird ass enter key

[rotund osprey]

yh i was looking at the tkl version though

[chrome raft]

You need tkl? @rotund osprey

[rotund osprey]

i would like it but not necessary as i might still get full sized

[chrome raft]

Linear, Tactile, or Clicky? @rotund osprey

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/evga-z15-mechanical-keyboard-hotswap-kahil-speed-silver-switches-n-key-rollover-magnetic-wrist-rest
imo this is the best keyboard with UK layout @rotund osprey

it has hot swap

if you REALLY want TKL I'd consider a Roccat @rotund osprey

the non pro Vulcans

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/gaming-accessories/gaming-keyboards/roccat-vulcan-tkl-aimo-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-10218809-pdt.html

this thingy

[ionic briar]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Keyboard-Swappable-Partitioned-Backlit/dp/B08JTFN419/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_i=B08JTFN419&psc=1

or this thingy

for RGB !!!!!1111

[chrome raft]

@ionic briar UK layout

[ionic briar]

ah

nvm then

[chrome raft]

I mean why else would I recommend a roccat LOL

The barely passable keeb

but for gaming keyboards barely passable might as well be god tier

[rocky fog]

What are Cherry MX Red key switches best for?

[potent void]

anything. but they are linears and linears are probably the best for gaming

they can be used for typing too

[rocky fog]

hmm

I'm looking for a new keyboard and I need a good balance between good for typing and gaming

my current keyboard is cherry black

[potent void]

mx reds are pretty good for both

i use them right now

[rocky fog]

Isn't brown also usually considered a good middle ground for both too?

[potent void]

uhhh...i think so

those are a bit scratchy ive heard but they are fine

you can use anything for gaming and typing really. i find linears to be the best option for that though

[rocky fog]

K. Thanks for the help 👍

[potent void]

np

[rocky fog]

I'm thinking of going for the Corsair K63 wireless, in that case.

[potent void]

thats actually what i have now but i dont like it too much tbh. its fine for what it is but i dont think you should get that one

[rocky fog]

Do you have any recommendations?

I'd much prefer wireless but I suppose I can do with wired

[potent void]

what kind of size do you want?

[rocky fog]

regular to large i suppose

my current one measures to about 19 inches in length

so similar to that

[potent void]

so like....a tkl like what the k63 is or a full size with the numpad?

or this

[rocky fog]

probably not that.

[potent void]

and why wireless over wired btw?

[rocky fog]

I generally prefer wireless things to keep my desk space neat and without wires

but I can do with wired stuff if that's where the best stuff is

[potent void]

i see, alright

https://www.keychron.com/collections/keyboard/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

like this one?

it doesnt have a wireless dongle so you will need bluetooth for that

[rocky fog]

Perhaps, I'll look into that

[potent void]

"they're ticklish at best"

• glarses

[potent void]

wow lol

[tardy bramble]

Hey guys, got basically ignored in PCMR and Ducky, so this might be my last chance
What can I do with a dim LED on a Ducky One 2 Mini?

Please have pinging enabled if you reply, I'm going to sleep with the most possible amount of hope

Ah, thank you!

This is just... so stupid

It's back to normal brightness at the moment

QC my ass.

[gleaming atlas]

If you're used to Cherry Blacks then Reds will be very light.

[quiet hull]

I need a quieter keyboard as I am moving out of my house into a college dorm but I don't want to give up the feel of the Cherry MX Blues that I have currently, from what I understand browns give most of the feel with much less of the sound. Does anyone have a good Cherry MX Brown keyboard that is preferably not too expensive?

[gleaming atlas]

Browns honestly don't feel anything like Blues IMO

My fiancee had Blues (just because it was a cheapo board) and I was like there's no way I'm gonna listen to that all day in the same room. Ended up going Box Burnt Orange. Granted this probably doesn't help as I kinda doubt you will find a board that comes with them but browns feel pretty bad. Maybe others will have some options. I like linears more TBH

[quiet hull]

I absolutely hate reds

i havent had long time exposure to them

but ive used them enough

that I can confidently say they feel like just a tiny step up from membrane to me

[quiet hull]

I got my current keyboard for $15 off of a friend

[potent void]

i like reds

[quiet hull]

although I am apparenly the 3rd or 4th person who has used it

[potent void]

what about silent boba switches

[quiet hull]

i've never really looked into keyboards specifically all too much so idk how those are supposed to feel or anything

[potent void]

they're tactile switches which is what blues are, but they are quieter then normal switches

[gleaming atlas]

Yea my reds didn't last me much over a year. Got sick of em

[quiet hull]

my only concern is that I wouldn't like them but i'd be willing too if it's really what i want

[quiet hull]

yeah, 2 of my friends have reds (not cause they know anything about keyboards they just either got it for christmas from their parents or as a gift from their girlfriend)

I tried theirs

and I was not a fan

[potent void]

am i the only one that likes them...

[quiet hull]

I've seen a bunch of people say that they love them on the internet

[gleaming atlas]

Yea my K95 RGB came with either red blue or brown. I ended up on Ancient Grays.

[potent void]

https://youtu.be/0XKZ5lozJ_Y

this is mainly a sound test

[quiet hull]

I have a razer black widow ultimate 2013 lmao, I've heard razer keyboards are bad but compared to the other keyboards i've used (I've never used another blue or brown switch keyboard) it's pretty good

for $15 tho, i'd say its a steal

[potent void]

for $15 any keyboard is acceptable. retail tho, just buy a better one

[quiet hull]

yeah, what budget would you guys reccomend for a good keyboard

I can spend as much as I need, but I would like to not buy a crazy expensive one

[potent void]

well, $50 will get you a decent budget prebuilt. $200 will get you a good prebuilt or cheap-ish custom

so maybe somewhere in the middle around $100

if you spend any more then that, you're getting into some nice custom keyboards

[gleaming atlas]

lol I've seen guys spend $500 + on a single board. Crazy to me

[quiet hull]

I would do that if I had tons of money

[gleaming atlas]

Especially when they have like 5 kbs already

[quiet hull]

but

I am a college student who needs a car lmao

[gleaming atlas]

Like I'm considering a K95 Platinum XT but I'm kinda like "do I really wanna remove all the terrible speed switchs and put ancient grays on it just for brighter LEDs?"

[quiet hull]

i'm likely gonna be able to test out a cherry mx brown keyboard that one of my friends has

tomorrow

I have to deliver a drive back to him that I used to transfer files with when I was upgrading my server and putting proxmox on it

[rocky fog]

Is that good?

[gleaming atlas]

Depends. For me I hate light switches. Ancient Grays are very heavy. My fiancee is fine with about where Blues are so I stuck with a similar weight for her board.

[chrome raft]

I mean if you guys liked Cherry switches you'll like literally everything else

[chrome raft]

If you liked MX Blues maybe Try Kinetic Lab's Salmon switch

It doesn't have the click

[wraith shard]

ktt gold are nice if u like the click jacket sond

[chrome raft]

they want to have something silent

[wraith shard]

hmm

idk then

most silent tactile have rather large bumps

[chrome raft]

Yeah basic taciles are good for that

[quiet hull]

maybe, do you have a keyboard with those switches that is good?

[wraith shard]

tactiles arent exactly silent

still loud

[chrome raft]

they're not too audible compared to clicky switches

[quiet hull]

my big thing is it has to be quiet (not silent) but much quieter than blues

[chrome raft]

yup they don't click unlike blues

[wraith shard]

oh

t1s?

[chrome raft]

You're going to have to buy a hot swap keyboard then swap them in @quiet hull

for Kinetic Lab Salmons

[gleaming atlas]

IMO, Box Burnt Orange if you liked Blues.

[chrome raft]

@quiet hull like they're not overly loud

[quiet hull]

i'll check out these switches, as well as the cherry mx browns that my friend uses

[chrome raft]

mx browns are quite bad though

I would not recommend them

[quiet hull]

why is that?

[chrome raft]

Gateron Browns are better

They lack tactility @quiet hull

[quiet hull]

i see

well I have to go over there anyways tomorrow so i'll see what I think when i use them

ive used them very sparingly and I liked the feel more than reds

[chrome raft]

https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/gmmk-full-brown-switch
@quiet hull tbh though, you can just customize this and get the option with the Pandas

[quiet hull]

alr

[chrome raft]

pick between Panda or Kailh Copper @quiet hull

just my opinion

bcz the pandas are 2x the money

[quiet hull]

2x the money sounds painful lol

and that i probably wouldnt go with them

[chrome raft]

then yeah, get the Kailh Copper option @quiet hull

great for gaming as well

For a full keyboard without keycaps is already 100 USD though @quiet hull

[quiet hull]

yeah i see that lol

[chrome raft]

and if you get the cheapest PBT keycaps that would be 120$ total for a keeb with speed coppers

deffo way better value than any Razer, Corsair, or Logitech keyboard though @quiet hull

since the stabilizers on GMMK are GREAT

https://www.amazon.com/Tecware-Keycaps-Double-Shot-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B08N6FFP1C/ref=sr_1_4
@quiet hull like these keycaps

Tecware makes good keycaps

[quiet hull]

i'll have to look more into it

but I will need it relatively soon so I cant wait too long lmao

[chrome raft]

Personally I just don't think Cherry keyboards are worth more than 50$ @quiet hull

https://www.amazon.com/Tecware-Phantom-Mechanical-Keyboard-Outemu/dp/B079HTZQYV/ref=sr_1_1
@quiet hull if you want to save money this keyboard exists

[quiet hull]

I want to save money, but also get a good keyboard that will last me for a long time (also I like to have the numpad lol)

[boreal rivet]

realforce

[chrome raft]

https://www.amazon.com/TECWARE-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-Excellent/dp/B076YJM3V3/ref=sr_1_2
@quiet hull then this guy

Tecware Keyboards last forever dw @quiet hull they're also hot swap so if a switch breaks, you can just pull it out and put a new one back in

[quiet hull]

is an outemu brown switch what i'm looking for?

[chrome raft]

Yes

It's ok, similar to cherry MX browns

imo a bit better

who plays on 104

id buy 104 only to get these switches from num pad

isnt outemu the cheapest switches?

nevermind

blues are

[old portal]

is k55 good?

[chrome raft]

55 keys?

i mean it would be really annoying to press fn keys do to anything

[old portal]

what do you suggest

[chrome raft]

No, they're basically equal go cherry at this point

They only really have one bad line and that's dustproof outemu

[chrome raft]

No, I would get a Keychron C1 for the price instead

[chrome raft]

87 keys

[wraith shard]

hg browns are nice

smoothness id say on par with gateron now

[chrome raft]

I mean Hyperglides are like so expensive though

[wraith shard]

and much nicer sounding from the housing

[chrome raft]

They're on like Leopolds and that's it

[wraith shard]

not rly depending on where u get them

i can get them for around 0.3 usd

[chrome raft]

Well here it's more like 0.5

That's double milky yellows

And akko CS

[wraith shard]

oh no those again

[old portal]

by k55 i meant corsair k55

[chrome raft]

oh i thought 55 keys

corsair is kinda overpriced

[old portal]

can you suggest some other like the k55?

[chrome raft]

Why not akko CS?

how much is the k55?

k55 is membrane you better get a mechanical than some overpriced membrane

[wraith shard]

nothing wrong with them just hate to seem them being recommended over and over again

same thing with gateron yellows

[chrome raft]

idk what i can suggest but i have kailh red switches

[wraith shard]

someone might as well start making pre lubed versions of those and put it in a gk61

how custom is it when everyone builds the same thing

[old portal]

ok

[chrome raft]

I mean it's because they're so cheap @wraith shard

[unkempt dome]

cheap, available mostly everywhere and not bad switches per say

[true axle]

is it a bad thing that I like clicky switches, people say I am weird

[ionic briar]

nope

[true axle]

thanks, everyone thinks im weird

[unkempt dome]

I like clicky switches ... but only the ones with clickbar

[unkempt dome]

well after using them for about two weeks I can say that I like the akko lavender purple quite a lot

the weight is great, the tactility is quite nice, I don't hear any ping, I don't feel any scratchiness, the sound is quite nice in the gmmk with some dye sublimated pbt xda profile keycaps

[verbal canopy]

usually better in fact, unless you get a bad batch

[wraith shard]

jwicks are nice but the leaf ping is just hot fire garbage

[wraith shard]

not jwks

alpacas and the recolours still feel smoother

They ain’t 1-1

[verbal canopy]

still jwk made

of course its not the same though, there's a reason they're at that price

[wraith shard]

or simply western vendors are just overpricing crap

[timber hollow]

you were right by the way, love this keyboard :)

[ionic briar]

you like the loudness and crispiness?

[timber hollow]

yep its amazing

better than any mx blue ive tried

[ionic briar]

hell yea
love that you like it

[timber hollow]

its louddddd so hopefully no one upstairs minds lol

[untold orchid]

Varmilo VA69 with cherry reds, wrist rest from loha custom, varmilo dawn keycaps, coiled cable from coolcable and artisan from aliexpress

macropad is some spiderisland one from aliexpress (pretty nice honestly) with gateron milky yellows, varmilo dawn keycaps and cable from coolcable as well

[unkempt dome]

Not much longer before the launch

[pallid trout]

The PE foam mod might be the most overpowered keyboard mod in existence.

(Both demos use a GMMK Pro, fully stock with unlubed Drop x Kailh Halo Clears, factory-lubed GOAT stabs, the stock aluminum plate, and Cherry profile ABS keycaps.)

PRE-MOD DEMO:

POST-MOD DEMO

[pallid trout]

It'll sound even better once I install the PC plate, Durock V2 stabs, and lube everything up.

For now, the spring ping will stay. Even so, this thing sounds a thousand times better.

[ionic island]

Steel series apex 7 tkl or razer huntsman te?

[chrome raft]

none of the above, both are bad

If you want a TKL, Keychron C1 and HyperX Origins Core, even the GMMK TKL

[ionic island]

What about 65 percent boards?

[chrome raft]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k7-ultra-slim-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39396275716185
@ionic island keychron makes the K7

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k6-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=31441079730265
@ionic island as well as the K6

[ionic island]

Is there more like the hyperx?

[chrome raft]

@ionic island more like HyperX how?

[ionic island]

Looks

[chrome raft]

You can buy a black keycap set

The origins 60 is quite expensive

[humble tulip]

Um hi I know that totally off topic but ... What is this

[ionic island]

Thanks

I'll take the hyperx tkl then

[chrome raft]

@ionic island wait TKL?

[ionic island]

Yeah

[chrome raft]

That's not 65%

That's 80%

[ionic island]

Tkl is fine I checked 65 percent it's too small

[chrome raft]

Bruh you asked for 65% LOL

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c1-wired-mechanical-keyboard
@ionic island keychron makes a hot swap c1

with RGB and everything

https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Swappable-Backlight-Blue-Switch/dp/B08CN9V7XX/ref=sr_1_3
https://www.amazon.com/Tecware-Keycaps-Double-Shot-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B08N6FFP1C/ref=sr_1_1
@ionic island

like just get a sub 20$ PBT keycap set that's black

boom gamer asthetic

[ionic island]

Wow thanks

I probably just saved 100 bucks lmao

[chrome raft]

Not really comes out to about the same price as the Origins Core

but the C1 is way better built

https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Keyboard-Tenkeyless/dp/B08B5VW11S/ref=sr_1_3
@ionic island there is also a version with Bluetooth for a bit more money

Both have Gaterons anyways which are way better than anything razer or steelseries gives in their keyboards

[ionic island]

saved 50 bucks then

[ionic island]

yeah I hear bad things about them but dont know how to choose a better one

[chrome raft]

Just pick red:linear brown:tactile blue:clicky

[chrome raft]

well the C1 is hotswap so if you don't like the switches Klinetic labs sells like sets of 90 for like 50$

And those are hardcore enthusiast switches

but imo gaterons are good enough for most people

[stoic timber]

Does anyone knows any hot swappable keyboard with the brightest RGB?

[chrome raft]

Gamakay/ Womier

https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Gateron-Swappable-Partitioned/dp/B08JV41PX4/ref=sr_1_5
@stoic timber

[stoic timber]

Okay nvm I regretted the RGB

[chrome raft]

https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Keyboard-Tenkeyless/dp/B08B5VW11S/ref=sr_1_3
@stoic timber then this

[stoic timber]

I don't think it is hot swappable

[chrome raft]

it should be @stoic timber

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32018252955737
@stoic timber here is the one in the official website

[stoic timber]

Thanks

[chrome raft]

https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Tenkeyless-Hot-swappable/dp/B0875VG9NL/ref=sr_1_3
@stoic timber
@ionic island
oh wait this is the correct version

though lacks RGB

https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Hot-swappable-Tenkeyless/dp/B0875SJ8FN/ref=sr_1_3
@stoic timber
@ionic island
here is RGB

actually

https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Swappable-Backlight-Blue-Switch/dp/B08CN9V7XX/ref=sr_1_3
yeah just get this

you really won't miss the bluetooth

[chrome raft]

@stoic timber here is version with no BT

[ionic island]

Are hyperx awua switches good?

It sounds really heavy to me lol

[chrome raft]

About as good as Gaterons if not slightly better, though HyperX Origins Core lacks hot swap and has dogshit stabilisers

[ionic island]

You know any place I could go to test out the different switches in person?

[chrome raft]

not really, but like they're quite similar

red = red, aqua= brown, blue=blue

basically

[ionic island]

thanks

[chrome raft]

With the HyperX versions being a bit better

[ionic island]

which would be better for gaming?

[chrome raft]

but both are still miles above anything Razer, cherry, or steelseries can give you

[ionic island]

Yeah the big brands are always bad for accessories

nobody recommends them

[chrome raft]

Yes they're all quite bad

[ionic island]

Hows the software for the Hyperx?

[chrome raft]

I prefer Keychron

[potent void]

Keychron software? What software?

[ionic island]

do they ship to canada from the official website?

I cant find them from any retailers

[potent void]

I believe they do have worldwide shipping

[fierce oak]

best sounding mechanical switches (colour type) I want something soft but clicky sounding any help ??

[chrome raft]

They have them in mem xpress @ionic island

[chrome raft]

Kailh Speed Bronze

[ionic island]

Im in Canada

[chrome raft]

yeah memoryxpress

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00114702
@ionic island

[ionic island]

thanks so much

[fierce oak]

is this gud ??

Cosmic Byte CB-GK-13 Neon Rainbow Backlit Mechanical Keyboard with Brown Outemu Switch

[chrome raft]

@fierce oak if you're aiming for clicky aim for outemu blue

[fierce oak]

sorry this

https://www.amazon.in/Cosmic-Byte-CB-GK-13-Brown-Switch/dp/B0819ZQBDN/ref=sr_1_2?crid=39J3PG1I3TEEQ&dchild=1&keywords=brown+switch+mechanical+keyboard&qid=1629180514&sprefix=brown+switch%2Caps%2C289&sr=8-2

[fierce oak]

not click soft click sound

[chrome raft]

So tactile?

[fierce oak]

kinna

[chrome raft]

Then yeah Outemu Browns are ok for that

[fierce oak]

im new to keyboards

and i want something cheap

but good

[fierce oak]

is it good of tactile sounds ??

[chrome raft]

it's ok

[verbal canopy]

I recommend the bm80 instead of the keychrons

[chrome raft]

What would you guys say is the best mechanical keyboard under 45 dollars?

RGB doesn't matter

[wraith shard]

tecware phantom

[chrome raft]

keychron c1 hotswap no backlight

[ionic briar]

hexgears gk705/707

[ionic island]

Is the roccat vulkan pro tkl good?

[chrome raft]

UK layout right?

just get the one without the optical switches and then it'll be "ok"

[ionic island]

Ok lol

Thanks

[chrome raft]

@ionic island I mean you do need the UK layout right?

bcz there are at least a dozen better keyboards that don't have UK layout

iirc yes

[verbal canopy]

I was mainly talking about the tkl conversation from above

Also bm80 is only 65 bucks or something, with via support

[ionic island]

Qwerty

I'm not in the uk

[chrome raft]

oh then don't get that @ionic island

get a Keychron C1 instead

[ionic island]

Ok thanks

[ionic island]

What about the k6?

[chrome raft]

it's ok as long as it's hot swap @ionic island

[ionic island]

So I have to change out the switches?

[deep quarry]

whats the highest end linear switch

[junior sentinel]

any 64 key or 60% hot swappable keyboards u guys recommend? anything i can get on amazon

[junior sentinel]

100$ 150$

@hasty saffron

[steady hatch]

is the new keychron keeb worth it ?

q1 any idea if its fully metal or just like the other ones metal but only metal frame ?

also anyone know a good vendor for some nice keycaps in the uk ?

[deep quarry]

no actually

[verbal canopy]

yes it's full metal

you could have figured this out by just looking at the product page

[pallid trout]

It's almost a GMMK Pro for quite a bit less, and the GMMK Pro is already a great value.

[chrome raft]

No, it's just so you have future options

[deep quarry]

whats the best linear switch when lubed and filmed including custom ones like creamsicles

[chrome raft]

types on membrane

[ivory ingot]

nah jk

[warm oar]

Im trying to get a really cheap option and I am looking at the DREVO BladeMaster SE Compact TKL with rgb, does anyone know a certain keyboard they think is better,

the reality is I have never had a mechanical keyboard so I don't know what I like

[ivory ingot]

I like Marshmallows

[hardy trench]

is glorious model o good for minecraft pvp and bridging?

[chrome raft]

it's nice @hardy trench but I prefer a Ninjutso

or HyperX Pulesfire Haste @hardy trench

[hardy trench]

nice

origin one x?

[chrome raft]

yeah that one @hardy trench

but Pulsefire Haste + Mouse Bungee is always an option @hardy trench

[hardy trench]

ok, i was gonna get the wireless option, any alternatives?

[chrome raft]

not really imo @hardy trench

[hardy trench]

i drag click and butterfly tho, and the pulsefire mouse buttons looking kinda short and thin

[chrome raft]

Doesn't really matter, the mouse switches themselves are better on both of them

[hardy trench]

ok

not the switches, i meant the buttons on top

becasue that is what most affects butterfly playrs and drag clickers

[chrome raft]

You mean LR mouse buttons right?

[hardy trench]

yeah

[chrome raft]

Yeah both are fine

the switches are what's more important imo

[hardy trench]

yah

i heard the omron switches are good

[chrome raft]

no they're the worst

TTC Golden Micro and Kailh GM are way better

and they like double clicking alot

[hardy trench]

ik

double clicking is really good if you want to drag click or butterfly click

thats why most people prefer omron switches

becasue they can double click

[chrome raft]

no as in they double click unintentionally @hardy trench

[hardy trench]

also the glorious mouse can adjust the debounce time in the software

???

[hardy trench]

????

[chrome raft]

like you press once and it registers two presses

[hardy trench]

yes

thats god

good

its actually better, beccause you dont need to intentionally double click it

[chrome raft]

I mean in certain games maybe

[hardy trench]

yeah

i main mc bedwars

[chrome raft]

but like you'd need to have a secondary mouse for

[hardy trench]

so its really op to have a double clikcing mouse

yeah i do

i have a g402 for fps games

not a 502

[chrome raft]

That's not even a good FPS mouse

[hardy trench]

wdym

[chrome raft]

It's like over 100 grams

[hardy trench]

mogul has like 15 of those

yeah

mongraal

[chrome raft]

Even Deathadders are sub 90g

[hardy trench]

ik

but i use all the extra buttons

[chrome raft]

They're a fortnite player though so like aim isn't really a problem

[hardy trench]

realy?

[chrome raft]

It's fornite

[hardy trench]

i dont play fortnite

i literaly no life mc and sometimes play valorant

[chrome raft]

What's your rank in Valo?

[hardy trench]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnpFsk_9rk

also frank said its pretty good for fps tho

[chrome raft]

yeah but the HyperX is just better

[hardy trench]

hmm

ok

ill ask some others

[chrome raft]

Though if you want a broken mouse that double clicks then get that

[hardy trench]

if they agree ill probs get the pulsefire

ok

thanks man

[chrome raft]

though even in mc it's going to be quite annoying if a mouse is doubleclicking

bcz you can't control when they doubleclick

so like anything that requires long keypresses are going to be quite annoying

[hardy trench]

https://tenor.com/view/noted-meme-but-looney-tunes-gif-22310685

[chrome raft]

Like bow in minecraft requires you to hold Left mouse button right? @hardy trench

[hardy trench]

yea

[chrome raft]

yeah, double click can cause an early release

[hardy trench]

but my friend got a glorious model o wireless

and he didnt have any problems with it

[chrome raft]

I mean it's still an ok mouse

[hardy trench]

so i rented it for a week

[chrome raft]

but like if you want wireless

[hardy trench]

yea

[chrome raft]

Just get a Ninjutso

[hardy trench]

its fine in the week used it

[chrome raft]

yeah it's "ok"

[hardy trench]

noed

noted

[chrome raft]

but it's not great

[hardy trench]

they are all so ugly tho

[chrome raft]

It's gonna be under your hand

[hardy trench]

yea tru

[chrome raft]

it's more important that the shape is good

[hardy trench]

im a lefty

[chrome raft]

oh kk then you need ambi mouse

[hardy trench]

thats why i wanted an ambidextrous mouse

[chrome raft]

Not alot of ambi mice come with right side buttons

[hardy trench]

yea

im in the minority i guess

[chrome raft]

Razer Viper is probably the only mouse you can use as a lefty @hardy trench

[hardy trench]

yea, but it doesnt double click lmoa

lmao

[chrome raft]

Actually the Pugio II @hardy trench

[chrome raft]

it can double click though

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0874WT7ZT/ref=as_li_tl
@hardy trench Pugio II

It works for left handed people

[boreal rivet]

g pro wireless

you can get them fairly cheap on hardwareswap

[chrome raft]

not really a lefty mouse

no side buttons on right

[boreal rivet]

g pro wireless not g pro x superlight

[chrome raft]

Oh yeah I guess that's ok as well

[stoic gull]

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sorry

[queen field]

umm

[stoic gull]

i was spamming#

My new keyboard

lol

[junior sentinel]

is this a good build?

[chrome raft]

@junior sentinel iirc Keymove snowfox should be a better base keeb

https://www.amazon.com/KEMOVE-swappable-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Programmable/dp/B08CV36C19/ref=sr_1_10

[junior sentinel]

is there an aluminum one?

[chrome raft]

oh then maybe the RK61 Pro?

[junior sentinel]

idk what’s wrong with the gk61?

[chrome raft]

It's quite old

[junior sentinel]

is there any diy boards i can get on amazon

[chrome raft]

Well if you really want to get one of those kits then just buy some stablisers @junior sentinel

https://www.amazon.com/CuXiukeys-Stabilizer-Mechanical-Customized-Stabilizers/dp/B094CMLZ3L/ref=sr_1_2

[junior sentinel]

are there any good barebones keyboards by drop?

[chrome raft]

none of them are good imo

[junior sentinel]

what switches are good i need silent ones

[chrome raft]

Silent Bobas maybe @junior sentinel

basically any of the Gazzew silents

[urban glade]

Silenced topre

I have thousands worth of mx boards and I still think silenced hhkb is the comfiest board

[junior sentinel]

is there any websites i can get a keyboard from

like novel keys

[chrome raft]

KP Republic is my favorite but amazon is ok @junior sentinel

I mean that's YMDK and cuxiu storefronts

[urban glade]

Depends on the budget… kpr and kbdfans are good I think if you want only cheap beginner stuff

They were the suggestions back when I was looking into it but that was quite a while ago now so there could be better options as well

[chrome raft]

KPR has alot of high end stuff now though

[urban glade]

Link?

[chrome raft]

I don't think they sell many kits below 200$ now

[junior sentinel]

i might get it from kbd but the shipping is harsh since i don’t live in the USA

[urban glade]

High end is like $500+

For case only

Imo

Actually maybe more idk I haven’t followed in a while

[chrome raft]

that's a bit much

[urban glade]

Yes it’s high end

[chrome raft]

imo high end to me is 200+

that's more of luxury

[urban glade]

to me

Yeah high end is the excessive luxury stuff

200 is lower to mid end

Still perfectly good, and an actually reasonable price, but there is much better available

Whether that better stuff is worth it to you depends on how you value these things

[urban glade]

They ship from CN anyway

[junior sentinel]

any boards u recommend from them

[urban glade]

No sorry, it’s been too long since I followed the lower end

[junior sentinel]

flex

[urban glade]

i strongly believe that the hhkb is the best board

personally the best option for a cheaper board is that

you can often get them for a fair bit cheaper than retail on ebay too. some people prefer those older ones

[verbal canopy]

Kpr's BM line is pretty decent for cheap

[boreal rivet]

Nah realforce is where its at, hhkb layout is nice though.

[urban glade]

hhkb comfier

i just wish there was wireless rf numpad

[boreal rivet]

Anything you say :peepoHappy-2:

Cool

[urban glade]

the steel plate of realforce isnt as nice to me, tho i do really like tkl

need separate cable for hhkb

only kbd that doesnt support ps/2

[verbal canopy]

40's are the comfiest

[iron relic]

Any 75% keyboards budget friendly prebuild or hotswap ? (300£ budget)

[pallid trout]

Keychron Q1 or GMMK Pro.

Can perform a PE foam mod for a really nice-sounding board.

[iron relic]

I think the q1 is cheaper then the gmmk pro right

[pallid trout]

It is, ye. Hasn't launched yet.

[iron relic]

ye i already was looking on it to get the barebone and add some c3 tangerines and a akko key cap set but i might go for the fully assembled one to save a bit more for the tangerines

but i am questioning its value and the reviews are on same day as preorder and i also have no idea of how plates work

[deep quarry]

what are the high end or the high end linears

[ionic briar]

In terms of price, hirose orange iirc.

[forest sigil]

Well depends what exactly you mean by that

[boreal rivet]

Linearised neons be like

[deep quarry]

accept those

[deep quarry]

ill give you a example, black inks are mid end in high end switches

[forest sigil]

Like that? There aren't many options really. Frankenswitches like black cherry pies and vint switches is basically it

[deep quarry]

are creamsicles good

[forest sigil]

Taste. I like creamsicles personally but they're by no means good value

[deep quarry]

its 123.50 for 90 creamsicles

i just calculated it

[fluid acorn]

hey guys, i'm thinking of getting razer keyboard and mouse. I heard razer synapse had a mixed reputation of spying and copying of what one types, which wouldnt be great if one files taxes and such. Is there any truth to that?

[potent void]

i wouldnt get a razer keyboard anyways. mice sure but keyboard no. havent heard of any spying but one more reason to not buy their stuff

[fluid acorn]

i know logitech and corsair is good, but just wondered about razer

[potent void]

nah dont get those either

[fluid acorn]

what does one get then?

[potent void]

they dont buy from a gaming brand (expect ducky i guess because apparently they're good) and get something from a good brand

[fluid acorn]

such as?

[potent void]

whats your budget and what kind of layout do you want

[fluid acorn]

full key layout, and cheap, but not too cheap if that makes any sense. Maybe around 20 or 30

[ionic briar]

Yea you're gonna be stuck with redragon.

[fluid acorn]

they any good?

[potent void]

for the price they're alright

[fluid acorn]

ok. ty.

[deep quarry]

🤣

id take k552 over logitech, corsair and razer keyboards any day

[fluid acorn]

Any difference between red switch, blue switch, etc etc? Or just color?

[potent void]

yes. they have different feel, sound, and actuation force. red and blue for example: red is a smooth linear, and blue is a clicky tactile

[fluid acorn]

Smooth linear?

[potent void]

tactile switches have a small click when you press them. linears dont

linears are pretty good for gaming

like you press the switch and you feel a click

[fluid acorn]

My current keyboard is Logitech g15

So red is less of an audible click?

[potent void]

where the hell did you get a G15?

[fluid acorn]

Had it for years

[potent void]

damn lucky

well anyways

reds are known to be quiet and dont have a tactile bump

[fluid acorn]

Cool. I’ve always had that g15. Got a mouse connected to usb 1.1. Not sure if it makes any difference for a mouse with usb 1 or 2

[potent void]

probably not since mice are usb 2 anyways

[fluid acorn]

Even the higher end mice?

[potent void]

yeah. you're not really transferring data

[fluid acorn]

True, so usb 1.1 is good enough for mice, to my understanding

[ionic briar]

not a small click
rather, a force feedback i would say

[forest sigil]

Which is pretty garbage honestly

I mean if you're relatively rich or committed it's alright

But I mean it's far past the point of diminishing returns