cheese cap
#peripherals
molten wharf
worldly shale
oh huh can i not send pics
potent void
caps get expensive
balmy moon
No like, for all of the keyboard
potent void
No like, for all of the keyboard
oh
molten wharf
caps get expensive
~~when a dude is getting reds and $200 caps tho, 
~~
worldly shale
didn't squashy boy do something like that
balmy moon
Something like this
west jackal
I DID IT. finnally i finished modding my first mechanical keeb
molten wharf
Gmk blurple one of my favorite cap sets
worldly shale
Something like this
you can probably just get a basic purple cap set online
worldly shale
i don't really reccomend getting ABS sets though. abs isn't necessarily bad but the cheap sets are especially prone to getting greasy and worn down after a bit
molten wharf
We dont want none abs
balmy moon
<_> I kinda want it here quick tho
potent void
i found rubber keycaps. ew
worldly shale
<_> I kinda want it here quick tho
amazon
molten wharf
Unfortunately not really possible
balmy moon
If I get desperate.. I can try to 3d print some caps >.>
worldly shale
i found rubber keycaps. ew
are they the weird epomaker ones lol
molten wharf
Lol my amazon caps still shipped from china
potent void
idk i found it on mechanicalkeyboards.com
worldly shale
imagine not living next to china 
west jackal
the best material for keybcaps is metal 
balmy moon
Perfect
worldly shale
hk gaming sucks but yeah you can get those
balmy moon
Wait wha @worldly shale
potent void
hk gaming sucks but yeah you can get those
not me just now looking at their site...
potent void
this is a preorder but i like this set
worldly shale
just terrible business practices. they've threatened a lot of keycap manufacturers and steal a lot of their designs
balmy moon
:o... that looks cool
boreal rivet
Gmk sucks too when you look at them and consider their aftermarket prices 
balmy moon
Oh ._.
molten wharf
Me waiting for gmk but pbt: 
boreal rivet
Colourways are not copyrighted
potent void
Gmk sucks too when you look at them and consider their aftermarket prices <:4Shr...
do good keycaps exist?
balmy moon
Uh.. o rings?
potent void
no no
molten wharf
Good is subjective
worldly shale
Colourways are not copyrighted
designs absolutely are considering they stole EPBT designs
molten wharf
But good to me is a $25 set of chinese keycaps that get the job done
worldly shale
but whatever doesn't matter mostly considering the massive clone market anyway
just don't like them
boreal rivet
Did epbt copyright their colourways? LOL
molten wharf
Also preferably with no rgb shine through because that means thinner
worldly shale
dude i don't wanna argue this i just said they stole designs and not colorways
boreal rivet
Designs how
balmy moon
uh.. this is al going way beyond me
boreal rivet
You do realise epbt uses gat blanks right
potent void
uh.. this is al going way beyond me
so uh. i guess just get the hk gaming ones
balmy moon
kk
balmy moon
thank yall
potent void
these ones are at least nicer quality
balmy moon
:o?
molten wharf
Keyboards are 95% nonsense and 5% ha ha thock
balmy moon
What's that? @potent void
worldly shale
You do realise epbt uses gat blanks right
epbt dreamscape novelties. copyright was an automatic right under HK law. just look it up man i don't wanna argue this
potent void
What's that? <@!335562950087540746>
hk gaming caps. they're made better then pbt stuff
balmy moon
oh
worldly shale
yeah cheap pbt caps are better than any budget abs set
potent void
idk if you like the yellow but they have a purple one
balmy moon
They're not see thorough tho 😦
balmy moon
idk if you like the yellow but they have a purple one
No.. that reminds me too much of my university
Not that I don't like it.. just don't like the gold
worldly shale
idk if you like the yellow but they have a purple one
LA lakers lookin ass
worldly shale
@balmy moon have you decided what profile of keycaps you want?
balmy moon
Profile? O.o?..
boreal rivet
epbt dreamscape novelties. copyright was an automatic right under HK law. just l...
Where?
potent void
cherry is fine, go with that
potent void
cherry is what every other keyboard uses. you're used to that probably so id suggest going with cherry
boreal rivet
No
worldly shale
cherry might have interference
boreal rivet
Every other keyboard uses oem
potent void
really? i thought most used cherry
boreal rivet
Cherry is only well known today because of this hobby
potent void
every keyboard ive seen appears to be cherry. or maybe i confused that with oem
boreal rivet
Not at all, one look at r1 will tell you what it is
potent void
i cant really tell but i think mine is oem
worldly shale
@balmy moon if you're only planning to replace a few keys and are using the base caps, go for oem
balmy moon
What are base caps?...
worldly shale
the keycaps that come with the board
potent void
you guys are gonna have to be a bit more specific
worldly shale
worldly shale
this is an alright set then
comes with grey modifiers and purple caps + are shinethrough
worldly shale
the caps or the board?
balmy moon
The caps
potent void
the hk purple ones seem nice looks wise but im not a fan of the font
potent void
mm yes lets make the font as ugly as possibly and then everyone will buy it
potent void
don't glorious sell keycaps?
they do
worldly shale
@balmy moon you could get some on the site themselves
worldly shale
wdym?
balmy moon
Like, idk the profiles and such on the glorious caps
worldly shale
they're probably gonna be oem
potent void
if you're changing the keycaps it wont really matter
potent void
unless you're using the old caps too
verbal canopy
Eh, just looks like typical shine through caps
balmy moon
I mean, I just need some purple caps
flat stirrup
Hey guys, just wanted to ask whether I could install LEDs in my Kailh switces or not. Thanks for your help!
pallid trout
Hey guys, just wanted to ask whether I could install LEDs in my Kailh switces or...
You need to swap the PCB since that's where the LEDs are usually installed.
Apparently there are people who believe the switches provide the backlight. Understandable, but not true. That's the PCB.
flat stirrup
You need to swap the PCB since that's where the LEDs are usually installed.
I see. I'm new to all this stuff, so I was confused. Thanks for helping!
pallid trout
Happy to help.
west jackal
first time modding a keyboard (mic was too close to keeb so it sounds loud)
is the spacebar rattly?
worldly shale
first time modding a keyboard (mic was too close to keeb so it sounds loud)
nice!
west jackal
thanks
worldly shale
stabs sounds fine :)
west jackal
you holee modded right?
yea
cool!
(most of the rattle is due to the spacebar hitting the plate, so i put bandaidbetween them on the other stabs but couldnt because i would need to re-take apart the keeb and i dont want to do that again)
west jackal
yea, ill still add more lube though
worldly shale
yea probably the best route to go
worldly shale
ive gotten lazy for modding my keebs so i just take off the keycaps where i know the screws are and take it off from there
yea when you learn how to lube without taking shit apart or just own a syringe it gets way easier lol
west jackal
I can't cause there is foam blocking it
worldly shale
the screws or the stabs?
west jackal
there is foam blocking the wire
worldly shale
ahh i see
wraith shard
first time modding a keyboard (mic was too close to keeb so it sounds loud)
gj. spacebar and enter still sounds bit rattly tho
shy schooner
Any keycaps suggestions for the gmmk compact?
wraith shard
switches area really just all preference
is there any switch type that you prefer? linear, tactile or clicky
shy schooner
Linear
wraith shard
are you looking for cheap switches or are you fine with paying more
shy schooner
Hm, cheap
wraith shard
ktt is the way to go then
ktt seasalts and recolors are quite smooth and have very good tolerances
shy schooner
Thanks, I'll check it
wraith shard
akko ktts seems to be the most available right now
but im not sure if they are the same molds as wine reds or sea salts
iron relic
what are some good between 60/75 prebuild keyboards for max 200£
shy schooner
Gmmk compact
verbal canopy
what are some good between 60/75 prebuild keyboards for max 200£
get a Leopold 660M
pallid trout
you can lube switches without opening them?
No, you still have to.
chrome raft
oh ok
ionic briar
what are some good between 60/75 prebuild keyboards for max 200£
Fc660m if you want to stay in the cherry camp for some reason.
Womier K66, Gamakay K61 for MUH RGB!!!1!!1
Kemove Snowfox/Shadowfox for a GK61XS with adjustable feet
And ofc, GK61X/XS
wraith shard
you can lube switches without opening them?
spray lube
also gk61 aint that great of an option now, so many gasket boards now
bakeneko with some cheap switches and caps can be under 200
granted if you can get it
mystic lake
How would I know if my keyboard is hit swappable
last gyro
if it has a purple connector at the end
mystic lake
Ok thx also can anybody recommend any good key caps for a 82 key/ 75%
wraith shard
take out our PCB if you see sockets like this if it doesn’t it’s hotswap
wraith shard
Ok thx also can anybody recommend any good key caps for a 82 key/ 75%
kbd75v3
hex 4b is also in ic, instock sale planned to be somewhere around early April
even if you missed it you can still join gb
mystic lake
Ok thx
shy schooner
take out our PCB if you see sockets like this if it doesn’t it’s hotswap
can i install those on a non-hotswapable keyboard?
in like a corsair k70
regal schooner
opinions on k7 keycron
ivory ingot
I'm so upset about spacebar stabs. I built a friend's Voice65 with Durock V2s and did the Epsi Deskeys mod, added some foam under the spacebar wire to prevent travel in the vertical axis as well as lubing the housings and wire with 205g0
still fucking rattly
ivory ingot
can i install those on a non-hotswapable keyboard?
no, the PCB needs to be designed to use them
you can, however, desolder the switches and then solder in Millmax 7305, 0305, or 3305 sockets
but honestly for a Corsair K70 i don't think it's worth the effort to do that
silent otter
Hey guys
Im going for this keyboard and im not exactly sure whether I want to go for the red or brown switch
potent void
Im going for this keyboard and im not exactly sure whether I want to go for the ...
Red
silent otter
I got red @potent void
potent void
nice
silent otter
im just hoping i dontt accidentally like click a key cause i heard that happens on reds
I dont have the fattest fingers my fingers are quite slim but idk
potent void
it doesnt take much to trigger these. im using cherry reds rn
silent otter
FR
wraith shard
Should have got yellows
unkempt dome
Yellow are still really light ... can't type on those without making a lot of mistakes
wraith shard
Ah wait never mind, optical switches and normal switches have diff weights
chrome raft
Should have got yellows
my reds are heavy for me lmao
gonna go with akko cs pinks next
wraith shard
If reds are heavy get Gateron whites
pallid trout
Are there any side-print SA keycaps? Especially one for a 75%?
Not holding out for the colourway I want so I'm only hoping for those three requirements.
chrome raft
If reds are heavy get Gateron whites
no, also they gat clears
gilded nova
I got a new keyboard I am typing this just to hear it click
potent void
"clickity clackity, im typing on my new keyboard happily"
wraith shard
no, also they gat clears
oops sorry
you like want good lightweight switches I recommend ttc gold pink
prime torrent
Any recommendations for a black full sized keyboard with cherry brown switches and rgb?
potent void
Any recommendations for a black full sized keyboard with cherry brown switches a...
Keychron C2 should do just fine
ionic briar
Is the glorious GMMK any good?
its fine
like any other brand
there is a percentage of doa products smh passed QC
ionic briar
What are doa products?
dead on arrival
prime torrent
I really hope that isn’t me because if it is, sending it back from Australia will be a pain
prime torrent
dead on arrival
Do you recommend any other brands that offer the same type of product?
ionic briar
if you need a board that just work
theres leopold and varmilo, both are plentiful in australia iirc
prime torrent
I want one where I can choose the key caps and switches but not have to build it myself
ionic briar
I want one where I can choose the key caps and switches but not have to build it...
yea
leopold and varmillo are prebuilts with a lot of stock caps option
and being equipped with cherry hyperglide, they will not have the cherry scratch ™️ , and you can swap in any caps you like
prime torrent
yea
leopold and varmillo are prebuilts with a lot of stock caps option
and being...
Are the they same as GMMK quality wise and what is the difffernce between Gateron and kailh
worldly shale
Are the they same as GMMK quality wise and what is the difffernce between Gatero...
gateron and kailh are just different brands
worldly shale
difference in what?
they both manufacture switches but they have their own different kinds of switches
prime torrent
So kailh brown switches are the exact same feel as gateron brown switches
ionic briar
And what does double shot
a way of making legends on keycaps and a way of making plastic stuff in general
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Double-shot_moulding
worldly shale
^^
essentially it just means that two layers of plastic are molded into each other so that the legends are extra durable and won't chip off
prime torrent
Do they feel any different?
worldly shale
they are more durable but no
abs feels "smoother" to the touch and PBT is more chalky
but those are plastic types and have nothing to do with the molding themselves
prime torrent
And what do o rings do
worldly shale
make your board mushier Kappa
they're there to ""silence'"" your switches
but usually just end up making them feel mushy not unlike a membrane
ionic briar
And what do o rings do
suppose to reduce the noise of the switch
also comes with the side effect of heavily mushed when bottoms out
and does not silence the upstroke contact between the stem and the top housing of the switch
for actual silent mechanical switches, there are dampeners where the stem contacts with the bottom and top housing, completely reduce the sound level
worldly shale
o-rings can be used for other modding purposes like jailhousing blues but usually they just mushify the keypress
prime torrent
There is soo much information about keyboards. You understand one thing then another pops up
prime torrent
I don’t think I want to have a completely silent keyboard
I think the brown switches will make it quite enough with the tactile feel
The brand of switch doesn’t really matter
worldly shale
brown switches have a very light tactile feel jsyk
worldly shale
not necessarily a bad switch but if you're looking for something more tactile akko blues are also an option, but afaik there aren't any prebuilts that have it yet
yea
ionic briar
not necessarily a bad switch but if you're looking for something more tactile ak...
they are
but like one while i helped my friend
akko 3098 asa black pink
a 1800 board
oh also 3068 v2 year of the ox 2021
prime torrent
What are they?
And I was looking at switches with a more tactile feel but they are a lot louder
ionic briar
What are they?
worldly shale
wtf i haven't heard of this board
ionic briar
And I was looking at switches with a more tactile feel but they are a lot louder
thats because of the speed after you surpassed the tactile event
ionic briar
thats because of the speed after you surpassed the tactile event
i heard some ppl said that you are not suppose to bottom out with tactile switch
but it could also be the volume of the sound test you heard
prime torrent
I am not that skilful of a Tyler
ionic briar
cause soundtest can be affected by a bajilion of factor
worldly shale
you can definitely hear them
ionic briar
Do you think more tactile switches are too loud
nope tbh
it all depend on how hard you hit it
and your definition of loud
prime torrent
Ok if you have someone else in the room will they get annoyed
ionic briar
Ok if you have someone else in the room will they get annoyed
it also depends
like my parents got annoyed by my linear gateron yellow
worldly shale
i find my tactiles to be loud enough to be annoying if i'm not the one typing but at the same time i am autistic and my sensory problems are different to other people
it really just depends
prime torrent
If I wanted to play at 12am without anyone knowing will they wake up
worldly shale
probably not
i play with akko blues and i don't get people knocking on my door to go to bed
ionic briar
If I wanted to play at 12am without anyone knowing will they wake up
i think they will
its nowhere near the sound level of rubber dome keyboards in terms of silentness
prime torrent
I think I will stick with brown and switch later on when I want a upgrade
ionic briar
but again, its so subjective
worldly shale
but it depends on your case and space and all
ionic briar
god knows how deep your mate's sleep are
prime torrent
Lol there are too many factors
. It sucks how there is no store where you can test all this stuff
worldly shale
linears are the best for staying quiet without necesarily going full on mushy
worldly shale
. It sucks how there is no store where you can test all this stuff
switch testers exist but aren't a very good way to gauge how loud you are
ionic briar
well silent switches are a thing if you want tactility and also silentness
ionic briar
switch testers exist but aren't a very good way to gauge how loud you are
also not representative of the whole typing experience
cause you can only hit 1 switch with 1 finger at a time
worldly shale
^^
worldly shale
it's okay
ionic briar
and you can use LEDs on them
or rather the led will illuminate the legend and the skirt of the caps
worldly shale
gmmk is terminally Okay I Guess
not a good option if you're going for compact because there are way better options for hotswap 60%s
prime torrent
I don’t want 60% I want the number pad
ionic briar
yea
its one of few keyboards that is full size and also hotswappable
worldly shale
for numpad hotswap boards
prime torrent
Hotsawp means I can change keycaps right
worldly shale
the rakk illis is also a nice board if you can find it but it's a PH only exclusive sadge
no you can do that on all boards
hotswap means you can take out the switches whenever
ionic briar
Hotsawp means I can change keycaps right
no
you can change the switch without desoldering
prime torrent
Oh ok
ionic briar
keycaps change is possible on all keycaps, with the requirement that you find caps thats compatible with your switch mounting style
and that you can remove the caps ofc 
prime torrent
The other reason why I liked the GMMK was the keycaps that came with it, I wanted the blue colour ones
worldly shale
implying anyone out there even sells non cross stem caps anymore
i've seen like one alps compatible set and that's it 
worldly shale
The other reason why I liked the GMMK was the keycaps that came with it, I wante...
you order those seperately
ionic briar
but if you use the configurator on gmmk website, they will come pre assembled
prime torrent
I think for my first proper keyboard I want it to come all done and for my next keyboard I do more
I don’t want to get in over my head and buy the wrong keycaps or something
worldly shale
you can't really go wrong with keycaps tbf
aside from being the things you type on they're mostly cosmetic
prime torrent
Yea I want it to look sexy at least
worldly shale
LOL
ionic briar
yea
unless you yeet it out a lot like me
then you might run into stem cracking with cheap sets
worldly shale
i need to get new caps ive been using the same miku oem themed ones i got a year back
ionic briar
Yea I want it to look sexy at least
https://www.mwave.com.au/searchresult?w=glorious&cnt=40&srt=0&isort=score&view=grid&af=brand%3Agloriouspcgamingrace
https://www.pccasegear.com/brand/393/glorious
this is the 2 authorized glorious seller in australia
worldly shale
them pink caps 
ionic briar
Is that one any good!
yes
built almost like a tank iirc
worldly shale
leopold boards look nice as hell
ionic briar
understated but built nicely
like thats all you need, doesnt need to flex about aircraft grade alu
just pour your budget into making products, boom.
prime torrent
worldly shale
sheesshh
prime torrent
Why does this cost more than the keyboard with everything in it
I want a pastel coloured keycaps
worldly shale
it's a higher end board
ionic briar
Why does this cost more than the keyboard with everything in it
cause it has a lot of features
rotary encoder, soft mounting style for softer bottom out experience, aluminum chassis, multiple plate material options, hotswap socket, qmk supported, all that jazz
its like glorious first dip into the custom mech world
and although some area are not polished
its still a banger 75% board
prime torrent
Yea I wouldn’t even be able to appreciate it
ionic briar
considering smt like cannonkeys satisfaction75 are much much more expensive with the same ish feature set iirc
ofc the cannnonkeys comes with a thicc block of alu compare to what glorious offered, and the products is more polished and finished imo
worldly shale
yeah i feel like the gmmk pro is more of a board you get after you've tried your first or second mech board and want something more
ionic briar
yep
worldly shale
and can afford it
ionic briar
the cannonkeys is like your typical board on this hobby
expensive, with the hope that it lives up to its price tag in terms of quality
cause its a group buy
have to pay it before it got even made
prime torrent
All they keyboard we have been looking at are good but are there any that look the same with rgb?
ionic briar
All they keyboard we have been looking at are good but are there any that look t...
i guess varmilo?
theres the double rainbow lineup that has rgb
ionic briar
tho i would happily trade rgb for build quality like the leopolds
worldly shale
^^
prime torrent
I think I might have to
ionic briar
some varmilo pcbs comes with holes for through hole leds if you want to add it down the line
prime torrent
Are there any aus retailers for varmilo boards
wraith shard
considering smt like cannonkeys satisfaction75 are much much more expensive with...
Mans really comparing those two boards
ionic briar
which is noticeably louder
worldly shale
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/varmilo-va108m-sakura-white-backlit-mechanical-...
oos sadge
worldly shale
if only they sold a 1800 layout gamakay board
ionic briar
Mans really comparing those two boards
i mean its not really fair to compare those 2
i guess my intention is for illustrating the price gap between 2 similar feature boards
kinda also illustrate how deep this hobby can be
like any other hobbies
ionic briar
https://www.u-buy.com.au/product/2MCZHOLY-varmilo-va108m-panda-white-led-dye-sub-pbt-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-silent-black
okay, what the hell is this pricing
ionic briar
What are mx silver switches like
linear with lighter spring than mx red
ionic briar
oof
id rather take the gmmk
at that price deficit its not worth spending more for a better build quality
prime torrent
The GMMK would probably be more
Everything costs heaps in auditoria
Australia
Any decent board is $200+ not on sale
ionic briar
i see it selling for 169 on mware?
or is it out of stock?
wow all of em are out of stock
prime torrent
Everything always is
ionic briar
keychron offerings are available
tho its a step down from the gmmk in terms of legend quality
laser etched caps, which might not last as long
ionic briar
in terms of feature set yes
in terms of build quality, i would rate leopold above gmmk
and also yes, they are all using the mx mount style for caps
prime torrent
Hmmmm
That’s good news
And last question before I have all my information, what about the GMMK isn’t as good as the leopold
ionic briar
And last question before I have all my information, what about the GMMK isn’t as...
mainly the caps, cause the keycaps on the gmmk prebuilt with gateron brown are your typical doubleshot shine through pbt with thin side wall and a risk of stem crack if you are not careful
also, the low profile plate might be not as rigid as leopold's high wall approach
their new gpbt caps are decent for the price
prime torrent
How likely am I to break the keycaps?
ionic briar
tbh, its low, unless you yeet your caps out 10 times a week like i used to do
prime torrent
And are there any good website for keycap sets?
ionic briar
And are there any good website for keycap sets?
pc case gear apparently selling some caps?
so does mware
https://dailyclack.com/collections/keycaps
https://www.switchkeys.com.au/collections/in-stock-keycaps
and these boutique stores
prime torrent
And if I get the GMMK or the leopold what keycaps would I want
ionic briar
i dunno, choose one you like
ionic briar
Or are they all one style that will fit any switch
mostly
like i havent seen any major store selling caps for say alps switches
or topre
ionic briar
since youre not going with smt like razer hunstman, the stabilizer should be the same cross mount like this
ionic briar
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/51157/varmilo-double-rainbow-rgb-mechanical-...
how much is it?
pccg ip banned my country, i cant access it
ionic briar
prolly shipping
and varmilo being not as well known as say your typical corsair
prime torrent
Glorious GMMK RGB Mechanical Keyboard White Ice
I am either going to buy that and some keycaps to swap it with
Or this one
ionic briar
If you want and planning on swapping out switches and you dont have a soldering iron and solder sucker, go with the gmmk
Otherwise leopold for better stock caps and nicer build quality
prime torrent
I am gonna change stock caps anyways I think
I will sleep on it but thanks for your help
You saved me days of work
ionic briar
You saved me days of work
No problem!
ember tartan
is it possible to get a DIY mechanical keyboard under 50$?
ebon sable
So I bought the Logitech G series G613 keyboard
Is it possible I could just change the keycaps
Cause they are very high
I would want want abit smaller
ionic briar
you can but its hard
those thing uses romer g from omron, and doesnt have a lot of aftermarket parts
you also just need some time to get used to the board tbh
ebon sable
yea a question
whats wrong if it is romer g
isn't it just that the keycap needs to fit the switch port thingi
pallid trout
isn't it just that the keycap needs to fit the switch port thingi
Romer G switches have different stems, so no.
pallid trout
Romer G
MX
You won't find a lot of aftermarket keycaps compatible with Romer G stems.
pallid trout
Yeah.
pallid trout
Maybe a wrist rest will help.
ebon sable
oh
it seems like you encourage using the present keycaps
well maybe i just need to adjust tothem
I went from using a Mac OS keyboard to this mechanical one @pallid trout
So you could probably understand the difference im experiencing
pallid trout
ye
ebon sable
like from completely flat to popping out lmao
maybe after time i wil master it
thanks for the advice!
Hope you have a great rest of day/night!
Laters
prime torrent
Feels like I never leave this server 😅
How does a ducky brand keyboard compare to brands such as glorious and leopold
final summit
How does a ducky brand keyboard compare to brands such as glorious and leopold
Duckys are prettier
Thats about it
chrome raft
i just got a akko world tour tokyo keyboard band i wanna rebind some keys how can i do that
balmy moon
OOoo
I saw someone with the Glorious GMMK keyboard with purple RGB lights and black+white keycaps
It looked sick
unkempt dome
I usually don't use the light on my keyboard
It looks strange with the keycaps sets I have
balmy moon
Wait... does the GMMK regular support QMK/VIA? firmware?
ashen oriole
i have the full size one and it uses the gmmk_keyboard app
balmy moon
Does it work on Linux tho???
balmy moon
Someone here actually said it does
Apparently the Pro one does, but not the standard one it looks like
ashen oriole
i see
the thing is the keyboard has all the possible combos on it with shortcuts
and ive honestly not used the software
its pretty bad
balmy moon
I know, but I wanted to be able to add layers to it
ashen oriole
but the keyboard is good xD
balmy moon
I only brought it because I thought I could control it in Linux >_>
ashen oriole
return it ?
balmy moon
It hasn't come up.. still on USPS
ashen oriole
i see
balmy moon
Welp.... got to go and find another keyboard
unkempt dome
Well the keyboard will work but as for controlling it ... you will have to try it to know most likely
balmy moon
From what I found on their website, you have to get the Pro in order to get QMK support
And you have to have their software to change the keys :/
balmy moon
@ashen oriole Apparently the normal GMMK doesn't even have programmable keys!!!
Even WITH the stock software e_e
ashen oriole
damn
i know i can program keys in the pro but the software is hot garbage
no idea how it works
balmy moon
Greeeeaaaaaat
Now it's gonna coast me extra to ship it back
And im not even sure if Im gonna get a refund for the origianl shipping e_e
potent void
Wait wth I swear I saw someone using it with VIA
Never mind that was just their normal software….I guess I saw GMMK Pro and didn’t see the pro part
Ah man I’m really sorry
potent void
I should have too
However you can setup macros at least. Unfortunately the rgb is limited
balmy moon
From what the guys at the gmmk discord say
You can't even do that <_>
Oh wait, you can.. but you have to turn off RGB
potent void
sigh
Well the other option is to return it and get Pro or wait until the Keychron Q1 comes out
75% is similar to tkl so you can reuse your stuff
balmy moon
_> I don't want GMMK at all
Was talking to the guys on there.. even the GMMK Pro is a pain to customize
balmy moon
I'll just get a YMDK and just build one from scratch
balmy moon
.-. I should have done that from the beginning
potent void
Uh never mind I found exactly that
There’s even a place to install a wireless module
you can install rgb leds too i tihnk
balmy moon
Oh cool
potent void
80% is another way of saying its tkl
balmy moon
Ah
potent void
balmy moon
Ah... that one doesn't use QMK <_>
hollow robin
Guys whats the best possible prebuilt 65% keyboard that money can buy
proud crown
Guys whats the best possible prebuilt 65% keyboard that money can buy
I've heard that the ducky 65% ones are great but they are 100% wired too if that's a concern
They are more mainstream though
probably not the absolute best, but also your preference of switches may change some prebuilts into non-contenders
balmy moon
@potent void Yeah... im totally against GMMK now
I asked on their discord, someone who had both keyboards pretty much said, the software for both sucks ass
balmy moon
It's fine.. they say I can send it back and get the full refund
And hopefully shipping back cost isn't too high
potent void
maybe someone else can suggest a different keyboard/pcb that has everything you need
ashen oriole
I asked on their discord, someone who had both keyboards pretty much said, the s...
can confirm software is absolute trash xD
potent void
all i can think of is the keychron q1 for now
ashen oriole
the keyboard is really good tho
balmy moon
Yeah, the guy said the keyboard itself is good
ashen oriole
maybe they can get their shit together soon :)
balmy moon
But the software and customization is god tier garbage for the price
ashen oriole
yeup
i wish it was better smh
but i dont wanna do anythin to fancy so im good
give the board a try, you might like it
balmy moon
_> If only USPS can hurry the hell up and come to me
potent void
well uh how do you like the keyboard despite the software?
potent void
oh i thought you did
balmy moon
No, it just shipped yesterday morning
potent void
i was tired this morning and thought this was yours
balmy moon
Oh, no
potent void
not sure how you would have gotten that in 1 night though now that i think about it
balmy moon
xD
balmy moon
@potent void Coolio
My classmate from school has a Voyager60 pcb
He says I can have it for free 😄
potent void
ay nice
toxic edge
is sk108 a good barebones?
toxic edge
is it possible to get a DIY mechanical keyboard under 50$?
no
near tinsel
Any advice on how to fix this issue? I am using a budget E element z88 full sized keyboard and my w key just won't work sometimes
frozen echo
What keyboard is that
That's hella lit to see even if you have an issue with it currently
wait I just didn't read your full message ignore the question lmao
nocturne scroll
those usually have hotswappable keys
I had a 60% keyboard from them and it was fully swap-able
potent void
I may try replacing the switch
if you have a switch remover, take a switch from another key and put it in the place of the W key. test it again
near tinsel
The issue is that i lost the key switch remover it came with. I have extra switches though. I'll update once I find it lol
verbal canopy
I'll just get a YMDK and just build one from scratch
you looking for something specific?
balmy moon
you looking for something specific?
Yeah, I was
verbal canopy
which was?
balmy moon
Under $200, RGB underlight, 75%/80%, QMK support
last trench
what keyboards do you guys recommend? I need a new one and I'm not sure what to get, I've had mine for some years now
prime torrent
Duckys are prettier
Does that mean build quality is the same between all 3 boards?
potent void
you can have a nice looking board but terrible quality, or a bad looking board but good quality. a good example is basically any old keyboard
prime torrent
What difference does 1k polling rate make?
I think I will
Yea that’s the only thing holding me back
unkempt dome
<@!335562950087540746> Yeah... im totally against GMMK now
If you lose too much money check if you can sell it instead of returning it
balmy moon
Apparently even the Pro's a mess to program
balmy moon
If you lose too much money check if you can sell it instead of returning it
Idk if I can even sell it because I didn't order keycaps with it
balmy moon
Where would I sell it at?
balmy moon
You might be able to cancel your order
Directly from them, and it alreayd shipped :/
That's what I found out today... after it shipped
balmy moon
They say I can.. but they wont cover return costs
I haven't a clue what it is, that's the thing
I needed a keyboard soon
@hasty saffron They say use USPS
Yes
I mean, they recommended me USPS
They gave me a USPS shipping
I mean.. I spent $120 (with fast shipping) for something that don't even program <_>
USD
I just brought the board and the keyswitches
normal
I ordered directly from the manufactuer :/
I wasn't gonna get their caps as I wanted to get my own colors
Board and keyswitches
And shipping
It says 109
last trench
what keyboards do you guys recommend? I need a new one and I'm not sure what to ...
anyone? ping me
balmy moon
anyone? ping me
Don't grab any of the GMMK keyboards
last trench
I'm quite out of the loop on keyboards, don't know what that is
unkempt dome
Where would I sell it at?
Ebay or local ads
balmy moon
@hasty saffron It comes up 109 base for me
last trench
not sure what you mean by layouts, do you mean numpad and so on?
well I don't really ever use the numpad but I have one right now, I do need a swedish keyboard layout though
balmy moon
Ebay or local ads
Idk who would even buy it though
last trench
yeah, I would like them to
balmy moon
Especially since you can't customize the damn thing
unkempt dome
Dude there's a lot of keyboard amateurs out there ...
Not everybody wants to customize the keyboard
I really don't care about macro and all that things
I would not even know what to do with macro support
last trench
probably
unkempt dome
I never installed keyboard software even tho I have and had a fair amount of boards
last trench
most likely since not every nordic country share the same letters
balmy moon
I never installed keyboard software even tho I have and had a fair amount of boa...
But then I'd have to sell it less than what I paid for tho
unkempt dome
But then I'd have to sell it less than what I paid for tho
Not necessarily if it's brand new ... sell for the brand new price without taxes
last trench
alright will do, seems like every varmilo keyboard is sold by a company in my region too so that's nice
they don't seem to be sold here
becoming a fan of varmilo va88m sea melody fan rn
the keycaps are so nice
might get the mousepad with it too
seems like I can pick from blue, brown, red and silent switches
pallid trout
@hasty saffron
You know of any side-print SA keycaps?
:(
why do they not exist
Wha
Oh. US Amazon, that's why lmao
Wait a minute
Those aren't SA profile
Wait I'm being dumb
Now I don't know
unkempt dome
Those aren't SA profile
Indeed they look like OEM profile
unkempt dome
The back.of the top row is really curved yes
I got my first xda profile set ... can't wait to try it out with some of the akko switches I got
pallid trout
Niiice
unkempt dome
Indeed
last trench
does anyone know if the sea melody keyboard is good?
I like the looks of it
varmilo
I just really like the way it looks
its pretty
prime torrent
what are good stabilizers?
potent void
what are good stabilizers?
durock stabs are good
potent void
:(
balmy moon
No like
I can't even get one
My mom just saw what keyboard
She got mad that I even brought it
So I got to send it back anyway
near tinsel
if you have a switch remover, take a switch from another key and put it in the p...
Late update, but I bought a key switch remover on Amazon cause I lost mine and the board came with extra switches, so I won't need to take any of them from the existing keyboard. Thanks for the help really appreciate it
balmy moon
Yeah :/
potent void
Late update, but I bought a key switch remover on Amazon cause I lost mine and t...
I was suggesting that so you can see if the switch was at fault. It’s good to know you have spares though
near tinsel
Ohhh okay I see
prime torrent
I ended up getting a varmilo 110% keyboard
It was heafty in price but I think it will be worth it
silent otter
I just got my new keyboard
dry parcel
I just got my new keyboard
Show us thanks
proud crown
@hasty saffron would you personally go for vortex or varmilo?
silent otter
anyone here online
Is the sound switching from G to H normal? Im using the gateron optical reds with the same keycaps
ashen oriole
Yeah theres usually a small sound difference between keys
wraith shard
Is the sound switching from G to H normal? Im using the gateron optical reds wit...
Yes normal since it’s tray mounted
u can do the oring mod for the sound to be more even
stable sorrel
Probably TKL or full size
ionic briar
Probably TKL or full size
hexgears gk707?
you will have to buy it off ailexpress
stable sorrel
doesn't look like ali express delivers here
split lake
i got a hyperx cherry red keyboard for 45 do u think that was a good deal
ionic briar
i got a hyperx cherry red keyboard for 45 do u think that was a good deal
which one?
i mean you dont have much option for a 45 usd mechanical keeb
split lake
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074F5L8GQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 wait i got it messed up it was 54
ionic briar
fine ish deal imo
you can get the hexgears gk707 for a hotswap board with half decent stock linear and tactile and one of the best modern clicky switch option
tired ravine
I had a blackwidow v1 should I buy another one like huntsman mini for my laptop ? Btw the huntsman mini have a float switch make rgb look better right ?
ionic briar
I had a blackwidow v1 should I buy another one like huntsman mini for my laptop ...
whats the switch you have on the og blackwidow?
and i dont recommend the hunstman mini, its overpriced imo
floating switch has nothing to do with rgb looking better
tired ravine
Green switch
wraith shard
Huntsman mini is fine for the price especially since you’re paying for optical switches
tired ravine
I bought BW v1 because its sale off about 80 bucks and they only have it left ,other are huntsman elite ,cynosa and bw pro ( I dont need the pad so I didnt buy it) ,bw tournament and white mercury
Or I can buy BW v3 ?
And one more thing what is it look like when the green switch had stroked for 80 million times ?
ionic briar
And one more thing what is it look like when the green switch had stroked for 80...
eh the leaf got deformed to a point where the switch will always in the open position
ionic briar
Huntsman mini is fine for the price especially since you’re paying for optical s...
for its smoothness or for its many marketing attributes?
tired ravine
Should I worry about my keyboard gonna out of date ?
ionic briar
meh
crimson isle
for its smoothness or for its many marketing attributes?
For rattle?
ionic briar
you see old cherry board still going
ionic briar
For rattle?
you mean switch wobble?
crimson isle
Sounds like a rattling instrument to me
ionic briar
i still dont understand what you mean by rattle?
like the switch sound rattle?
crimson isle
Just when shaking the keyboard
ionic briar
ah
i dont think its a thing with the hunstman mini at least?
crimson isle
All of them sound like there are a bunch of loose bits
ionic briar
huh
kemove snowfox time
cold current
is razer cynosa v2 good? or hyperx alloy fps is better?
ionic briar
is razer cynosa v2 good? or hyperx alloy fps is better?
alloy is better cause the switch feels more solid, not a hyper tactile rubber dome with a click leaf like the cynosa
green cypress
Þ
worn storm
already exists
Who makes that, legitimately interested
silent otter
u can do the oring mod for the sound to be more even
Ohh i see
sweet eagle
Yo I just got a corsair K95 platinum with brown switches for 64 bucks, good deal?
ashen oriole
for the price i guess so
proud crown
Ok thanks!
Oh yeah
it's fine
still seem pretty good to me too
They use dye subbed keycaps since some of their boards don't have backlighting but honestly I don't need the lighting
And I've heard dye subbed caps last almost as long as doubleshot ones
I'd really want to build my own keyboard but the 75% layout doesn't really exist and also it's way too expensive IMHO
Hmm
Are keychron boards solid?
wraith shard
for its smoothness or for its many marketing attributes?
Well smoothness and the actuation point
If you value those things then go for it
verbal canopy
Who makes that, legitimately interested
imagine thinking you can get one 
it was a GB that ran last November, $150 each
although on Mechmarket they're not selling for a big premium over that original price
unkempt dome
Is there any tkl prebuilt with kailh box white ?
ionic briar
Is there any tkl prebuilt with kailh box white ?
Hexgeats gk707 and hexgeats gemini
ionic briar
Damn those are expensive and hard to find here
Gk707 is on aliexpress
For the Gemini, yea it's 100 usd from Kono store
unkempt dome
Thanx a lot
west jackal
Steelseiries apex 5
ionic briar
most hybrid are ass
west jackal
He got that
ionic briar
cause the mush at the bottom out
ionic briar
if your friends got a topre it would have been a great deal
potent void
As a blue switch owner I agree
Tried my dads red switch keyboard. My good did it feel good
silent otter
anyone here have an sk61?
I am trying to find the right way to put the spacebar in. It has no legend on it and it also looks the same on either side because its a dsa keycap
ashen oriole
whatever looks right tbh
fast socket
got my first switch keyboard the other day, gonna lube the stabs eventually cus they’re really rattly but other than that i really like this thing
hoary trail
Idk if this is the place, but I found dis and I would like to share it
Fits a niche area but may be useful
pastel hazel
so i got 130€ to get a kb from this store https://www.plaisio.gr/pc-perifereiaka/perifereiaka-pc/pliktrologia/type_kind-pliktrologio/sortby-price/view-48
glass hawk
guys, I have a Apple Magic keyboard for my PC. It's not a gaming keyboard, it lacks RGB, and I want volume control on it. But every time I try a new keyboard like the G915 TKL or huntsman mini, I end up getting wrist cramps and go back to the apple keyboard. Anyone have any to suggest?
I love the slimness of the apple keyboard, i barely have to lift my hand from the table to touch the keys
wraith shard
give wristrests a shot
glass hawk
I have tried them but I just can't get used to them
wraith shard
hmm
glass hawk
Someone reccomended a ZSA Moonlander but the learning curve is something else
wraith shard
idt there is anything much for u to try
even the super low front height keebs are like 17mm
glass hawk
logitech makes some slim office ones but they are lacking a lot of features, so I'm not really gaining anything
glass hawk
yeah just wish there was something like it, not like it's been out for like a decade or anything lmao
pastel hazel
any recommendations?
thorn tree
Someone reccomended a ZSA Moonlander but the learning curve is something else
I dont have a moonlander but a very similar keyboard and it took like 3 days for me to get used to it and have about same typing speed as I usually have.
glass hawk
I dont have a moonlander but a very similar keyboard and it took like 3 days for...
But do you like it?
junior sentinel
hey do y’all have any recommendations for a 60% hot swappable keyboard?
thorn tree
gmmk
junior sentinel
glorious?
wraith shard
hey do y’all have any recommendations for a 60% hot swappable keyboard?
bakeneko60
unkempt dome
Kemove snowfox
junior sentinel
bakeneko60
looks like an amazing keyboard
chrome raft
Any recommendations for a mechanical flat square keycap board? Ideally a full sized one with red switches, but I’d be fine with pretty much anything.
I’ve got my eye on this, but I’m not sure if there is anything better at the same price or comparable but cheaper
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Sk-650-Gklr1-US-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B07N4DFPNM
ionic briar
Any recommendations for a mechanical flat square keycap board? Ideally a full si...
hmm
do you think the g20 profile caps is what youre looking for?
chrome raft
I don’t know anything about keyboards, how would I go about looking for one with those keycaps? Also, thanks for the response
ionic briar
I don’t know anything about keyboards, how would I go about looking for one with...
https://pimpmykeyboard.com/g20-pbt-blank-keysets/
these guys
which currently only available blank with no legend
chrome raft
Thanks!
ashen oriole
check with the place you bought it from
balmy moon
I got it from gmmk directly
ashen oriole
email em
balmy moon
I did, they just told me make a label and send it off
ashen oriole
yee
balmy moon
They suggested to go to usps.. but idk how much it'll cost
ashen oriole
usps should be pretty cheap
balmy moon
Idk what size to get...
balmy moon
Wait, what if I sent it back in the original shipping paper it was in?
(And yes, for some reason it was shipped in paper)
main pumice
What is good tkl keyboard
potent void
What is good tkl keyboard
Budget, features and switch type?
main pumice
70-120 cad
potent void
And the other two?
main pumice
Idk bout switches just want a good keyboard for features same thing
junior sentinel
thanks for the help
idk
do u think the kemove is good?
are there any other hot swappable keyboards for 200$?
yeah
i’m also thinking of buying the elgato wave 3 but it’s 230$ where i live
pallid trout
i’m also thinking of buying the elgato wave 3 but it’s 230$ where i live
Yeah no
At that point USB mics are not worth it.
pallid trout
If you need the Elgato software suite there's the Wave:1 or the Wave XLR.
If you want that but cheaper there's the Rode NT-USB Mini.
Do you have a budget?
junior sentinel
i can also go xlr
potent void
Motu M2 and an xlr mic
pallid trout
Bro that Motu is most of that $230 lol
Don't got for it if you can't afford it.
It's good, but expensive
But yeah
Do you have a budget?
junior sentinel
yh
potent void
Nex said there was a $30 mic that was good
junior sentinel
But yeah
Do you have a budget?
200 - 250$
pallid trout
But it's overkill for a $30 mic if you're using it for just an interface.
potent void
That’s true
pallid trout
If you're also using it as a DAC then maybe.
main pumice
is FC750R good
quaint aspen
did they remove the macro feature from corsair icue?
junior sentinel
Damnit Jessie isn't on.
should i get the audio technica at2035?
potent void
should i get the audio technica at2035?
Can you move to #audio-tech
junior sentinel
yh
silent otter
So i just got a new keyboard its the sk61 and overall im happy with all the switchs and keys sound good but my spacebar sounds different when i press it on the right side and the left side
is that normal?
silent otter
one sounds more thoccy while the other sounds a liitle rattly
silent otter
wire?
wraith shard
the metal thing in the stabs
ashen oriole
basically differences in the keycap weight
and shape
one side could be a little lower then the other or the other could be a little heavier
theres always gonna be some sound difference between keys
silent otter
fr
stable sorrel
how do you want the keyboard
The main differences between Brown and Black are that Brown are going to be a bit lighter (less stiff to push), and they will have a tactile "bump" that you feel as you press a key down, letting you know when the keystroke has registered. Black switches are linear, which means they have no bump
pallid trout
See
unkempt dome
there's no such things as best switches for games ... it's only marketing
pallid trout
There's a problem in the keyboard world.
And it's called
And yeah, there are no "gaming" switches.
Though, if you wanted the fastest engagement time, then you go for switches with a very high actuation point.
So I guess those can count, but still
It's mostly preference.
unkempt dome
"Gaming" switches are usually those that are light, short total travel and high actuation point ...
What do you get with those is involuntary keypress if you're not careful
Those won't give you any edge in games ... you should focus on mouse or monitor for that
pallid trout
It might, actually, but I agree with the sentiment that you'll find better improvements elsewhere.
chrome raft
got my first switch keyboard the other day, gonna lube the stabs eventually cus ...
I like lego car
fading tundra
What would a good mechanical RGB keyboard for 60-70$/€ be?
TKL or full
Ok so any normal mechanical keyboard would be fine?
from womier?
ok thx
seems like I can't have that here, any other recommendations?
Does not ship to here
Hello?
ionic briar
seems like I can't have that here, any other recommendations?
hexgears gk707?
also check aliexpress for both the k87 and this
fading tundra
hexgears gk707?
also check aliexpress for both the k87 and this
Ok thx I will take a look
sick lichen
purple
sick lichen
how does the blue feel?
unkempt dome
the tactile bump is snappy, the sound is a bit high pitch for my taste, the weight is maybe a little light but the tactile bump make up for that
the blue feels about the same with a bit deeper sound and a bit of higher resistance when bottoming cause of the progressive spring ...
at least that's what I was able to determiner from trying them in only 4 spots before deciding which one to put in all the keyboard ... later next month maybe I'll change the purple for the blue
the keycaps are nice, it's my first xda profile set ... it feels a bit weird compared to the other profile I tried
chrome raft
How do I do it, so that when I hold my spacebar, it spams space on via
and when I release the spacebar it sdtops