peripherals

[junior lodge]

But is the keyboard worth the price?

[austere jacinth]

pretty much

the sound is soo good

redgear one sounds hollow

this one sound metally

[junior lodge]

You have the Mk881?

I have the same if you are referring to that

[austere jacinth]

the next one , wait i forgot the name

redgear chameleon

has the same kalih blue

[junior lodge]

Oh mk881 is a pretty good keyboard though

3 years and still going strong

But I want to change

Hence GK-64

[fair wasp]

Any ideas for Rattaley stabilizers on a GMMK

[unkempt dome]

lube

[violet geyser]

how good is the HP Pavilion Gaming Keyboard 500

[ionic briar]

really bad
its a membrane but with a mx style faux switch on top
when you push down on the switch, the stem's pole touches the rubber sheet below to actuate

as you can see
the switch is just a decoy
its a rubber dome

[worn storm]

Why do those exist? How is that cheaper to make than a regular mech?

[violet geyser]

ok i will get a acual mechanical kb

[potent void]

Oh god that’s heresy

[ionic briar]

so technically its mechanical i guess?

but typical hammer on membrane doesnt need the rubber sheet beneath

cause it will just make it feels like well, rubber domes

[worn storm]

I mean anything other than a touch screen is "mechanical" but sort of splitting hairs

I need to sit down and finish that PCB i started designing back in 2019 at some point. Just don't think anyone would actually order one to get the cost to the point where it'd be reasonable >.<

[violet geyser]

its usally 50$ lmao

i could get ones for sub 35$

[worn storm]

Lol, the unfinished BOM is over $400 not including the PCB

Its a stupid concept design chasing the lowest possible latency cost be damned. Full-board per-key hardware debounce (runtime configurable too) run by a pair of FPGAs feeding into a CycloneV

Might be the first board actually REQUIRING type-c just to handle power requirements

Not commercially viable as a design by any stretch of the imagination, but might be someone out there interested

[wet walrus]

Recommendations for a nice PC keyboard? I’m undergoing a rather long and tedious integration of PCs into my work flow. Looking for a viable keyboard for my self. I don’t want anything too fancy, just something sleek enough for my office and not tiring to type with

Can’t really find anything not RBG which is “high quality” any ideas?

[pallid trout]

Yeah but you can probably get an okay mech for that price.

[pallid trout]

Budget?

[ionic briar]

yes
what is your budget and where are you from?

[blazing star]

New keycap

k e y c a p

[main pumice]

noob caps

[blazing star]

huh

[deep quarry]

You fucking loser you just got beamed

[chrome raft]

link

also hi zuzu(3900x and 3080) @blazing star

forgot u were in this server

[potent void]

Pretty! Where’d you get em at?

[blazing star]

Drop

the gb is over tho

[potent void]

frick :(

[obtuse swift]

id this good

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005002060313517.html

https://kbdfans.com/products/ic-d60-pc-version-mechanical-keyboard-kit
keeb specs (yes i am aware the d60 isnt in stock)

?

what options?

[potent void]

wait its free?

[obtuse swift]

no

[obtuse swift]

read above

[obtuse swift]

^

and a kit

''https://kbdfans.com/products/ic-d60-pc-version-mechanical-keyboard-kit''

do you not see this

right under keycaps

boba u4t, mx black (regular and hyperglide), mx browns (normal and hyperglide)

im usign all of them

for this keeb

all 5 switches on 1 keeb

[chrome raft]

Has anyone heard of this? Is it good https://au.prohavit.com/products/kb487l-tkl-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39354432192710

[lone gyro]

weird question, has anyone here used a MIDI keyboard for macros?

[lean steeple]

anyone else have the rk61?

best 60% i’ve owned

[light tree]

What is a good linear switch that has an actuation distance similar to an mx blue? I am running kalih speed silvers right now and the actuation distance is too short for me but I like how the switches feel

[chrome raft]

Anyone have any recommendations for cheap tkl’s? In aus?

[unkempt dome]

Most non speed linear switches ... gateron yellow is a nice switch

[light tree]

Those look pretty good

do you have any experience with gateron ink blacks? I tend to like a heavier switch

[unkempt dome]

I don't ... I heard they are great

[light tree]

I might have to pick up a set of those

that or those mx browns people rave about

[unkempt dome]

Mx brown are crap as a tactile switch

I'd you're going to get tactile try to get actually good ones

[light tree]

What makes them bad? I remember a little while ago going to a walmart and trying out a board with mx browns and they felt alright

[unkempt dome]

If you like tactile that feels like scratchy linear cause they are barely tactile and with a lot of stem wobble then I guess they are fine

[light tree]

I kind of want to try a decent tactile switch, because I like the smoothness and quiteness of linear switches but I do like a small tactile bump sometimes

[unkempt dome]

Small tactile bump ... yeah mx brown it is

I don't know them

[light tree]

I'm not sure now lol

because I really wanna try gateron black inks

[unkempt dome]

Why not try them and the tactile ones

[light tree]

That's true but I don't wanna spend $30-60 on switches I might not like

[unkempt dome]

You just have to resell them if you can

[light tree]

I feel like I'm going down a rabbit hole lol

I stopped using my keyboard that had blues in it because I didn't like the noise (+ keychatter issues)

[unkempt dome]

Yes totally

Like when you get into audiophile stuff

[light tree]

audiophile stuff is expensive

Yeah but at this point I'm only looking for a decent set of switches

[unkempt dome]

Well keyboard are still reasonable priced compared to audiophile stuff

[light tree]

Yeah

I was gonna get into audiophile stuff

but I was able to pick up a deal on some ath-m50xs and I took that as I should not go farther

[unkempt dome]

You should at least try another one ... akg k361 ... then stop

[light tree]

Nah I got them for $20 it's a sign lol

They came with an extra set of cables too

the earpads were worn down, but those I was gonna replace anyway

also can you link the mint switches

(words are hard

ThErE Is No RgB !!

I just confused the hell out of my self for a sec

I thought it was $12/ switch, they come in packs of 10 lol

I know about lubing switches

but what is filming?

I'm assuming that reduces wobble?

Cool

What do you all think of wrist rests?

[chrome raft]

i want one

[light tree]

Do you have any recommendations? I'm running a massdrop ctrl

I mean like what wrist rest would you reccomend

I like the board itself

[unkempt dome]

North facing is not a big problem

[potent void]

as someone in both hobbies: yes

[light tree]

Alright

[ivory ingot]

aren't south facing LEDs the ones which cause issues?

or is it north lmao i might be stupid

oop

[unkempt dome]

South facing are not that good at diffusing light

[potent void]

why not both'

[ivory ingot]

who needs to pay off a car when you can have a killer audio setup and a TGR Jane

[light tree]

lmao just have a car that is older than you are

[ivory ingot]

fair point

gimme honda beat pls

make sure to ask Taeha to build it for you

bespoke builds from him are like 1k for the service alone

[unkempt dome]

Imo north facing is not a downside specially since I don't like cherry profile keycaps

So it a non issue

[ivory ingot]

i've heard that any wrist rest really works

theoretically you're really supposed to put your palms on the wrist rest

i think?

i've got a gel one that works fine

lmao i got a Mark 65 without any weird angle shit and everyone was like "bruh what"

it just feels better imo

[light tree]

I really like the how the wood and resin wrist rests they have on etsy but I feel like they are gonna collect sweat a lot

[ivory ingot]

i'm in the market for another one because i keep forgetting to bring mine into the office

[unkempt dome]

I've never used a wrist rest

[light tree]

I never have either, but I am starting to get a bit of wrist trouble and I've heard that a wrist rest can help

[ionic briar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/760037515108810783/808939692057034773/SwitchInterferenceCrop.png

[unkempt dome]

Yeah and I don't use cherry profile keycaps

[chrome raft]

i want to get some non cherry profiled

[unkempt dome]

That's about all I have non cherry profile

[chrome raft]

Are akko wt not cherry

[ionic briar]

its oem

and there are dsa variant as well

[chrome raft]

Can I have a chart

On what the profiles are

[boreal rivet]

Google exists

[ionic briar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/776053066822713354/860719336535621632/keycapprofiles.png
heres some of em

[chrome raft]

I want daa

-dsa

[ionic briar]

its in there
look carefully next time

[chrome raft]

Yea

In saying I want some dsa caps

[ionic briar]

oh

nvm then

[stone pawn]

What color keyboard should I get?

Black or white?

[potent void]

what color looks better to you? id probably pick white but you should pick what looks better to you

[chrome raft]

Anyone have any recommendations for 50 aud red switch keyboards full or tkl?

[chrome raft]

What’s ur setup theme

What color

[potent void]

take a look at akko cs switches. they're cheap

since reds are linear id recommend the matcha greens

[stone pawn]

My desk and case are white and everything else is black including my desk pad and mouse.

[chrome raft]

I mean like a keyboard not just the switches

[chrome raft]

Hmmmm

Whatever u think looks best tbh

[stone pawn]

Ok I’ll do white then.

[potent void]

oh. uh. that one red dragon keyboard i think. or maybe a keychron

[obtuse swift]

id this good

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005002060313517.html

https://kbdfans.com/products/ic-d60-pc-version-mechanical-keyboard-kit
keeb specs (yes i am aware the d60 isnt in stock)q

[prime torrent]

Idk if this is what you consider cheap but I have been searching around for a decently priced tkl keyboard and the ducky brand is pretty good

You can also customise things pretty well

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5801

[wet walrus]

No real budget, I’ll cap it at $1,500, I’m in India

[wet walrus]

Assume 1500

For a total of 2 ( I need to have one backup always on stand by)

[prime torrent]

This is they key off I am looking at form them and it is the cheapest RGB tkl I found in aus

[verbal canopy]

right now the Mode65 is on group buy and it delivers in a relatively fast timeframe
https://shop.modedesigns.com/pages/sixtyfive-configurator

[shell frost]

can someone help me i have an evga k20 keyboard and i took the enter key off and cant seem to get it back on just right so its stiff when i put the key cap on but the mechanism its self is smooth

[ionic briar]

Leopold fc750r

[obtuse swift]

?

[rocky crescent]

anyone know what gazzew boba u4t switches are

/how good are they

[chrome raft]

theres an akko one u could look at

[earnest fossil]

Anybody know any good mice I’m thinking about getting the g502

Not a mouse section just keyboards

[sullen glacier]

Whats a decent keyboard for 50 euro?

[last gyro]

depends on what you want, audible click or just a good typing experience

[chrome raft]

Look up akko wt

[worn storm]

4 disassemblies later, these GMMK Pro stabs are the 2nd worst I've ever dealt with.

[worn storm]

Prettymuch, still using their smaller stabs, replaced the spacebar stab with a costar plate stab

[light tree]

Omg I just took out my old mx blue keyboard and it's so annoying

[worn storm]

lol, click-clack

[light tree]

Clack clack indeed

I'll keep my linears thanks lol

[worn storm]

yea, using MX silent reds on GMMK Pro now, started with gat clears, then box reds, now silent reds

[sullen glacier]

these look fire

[potent void]

Adorable

[sullen glacier]

not available anymore 😦

[chrome raft]

what?

go to amazon

[chrome raft]

i really want those

[worn storm]

Kinda wish we would see more custom colorways embrace PBT

[sullen glacier]

I saw one for 60 euro there thanks

[chrome raft]

ok good luck

[blazing star]

Clipping my Durock yellows to fit in a 3 pin pcb

[chrome raft]

what are those

specs of those

[blazing star]

55g linear

[chrome raft]

actuation or bottom?

[blazing star]

Actuation I think

I have kryotox as well for lubing them after they’re trimmed

[chrome raft]

so like a gat red?

[worn storm]

How are they? Was looking at trying Durock linears

[blazing star]

Well from the tiny bit of experience I have with them, they’re smooth

[chrome raft]

imma be getting diamonds or mints

[blazing star]

1% build

My actual board arrives tomorrow

The r/mk discord got pissy cause I got a drop ctrl

[chrome raft]

im gonna do a tofu65 in e white

[blazing star]

It’s just the barebones kit

[chrome raft]

with akko wt

[blazing star]

Keycap

[chrome raft]

poggers

give me a link

[worn storm]

can't say i love the CTRL or the original K-type personally. Manged to kill both of them with ESD

[blazing star]

I don’t have a link; the drop is gone

[chrome raft]

those look poggers

[blazing star]

I feel like that’s an exception tbh

[sullen glacier]

I cant ship to me so I found other keyboards: White Shark Shinobi 60%, Royal Kludge RK61, GK61. These look nice, any other recommendation?

[chrome raft]

get the rk gk61

*gk

[sullen glacier]

The GK61?

Blue, red or brown switches?

[potent void]

is that new 1%?

[chrome raft]

ok

[blazing star]

Lol

Wish me luck kiddos

[potent void]

Lubing time?

[thorn tree]

what switch is that

[blazing star]

@potent void yes

@thorn tree Durock yellow

Sound test

[thorn tree]

sound pretty scratchy and pingy

might just be the recording

[blazing star]

Yeah recording

[main pumice]

nah its the keyboard only because i said so

[short bolt]

wtf are these razer analog optical switches

not seeing any legit reviewers having reviewed this yet

[thorn tree]

who are legit reviewers

[short bolt]

someone trustworthy enough with trustworthy reputation

[thorn tree]

like?

[short bolt]

aka = not some noname channel with 20k followers

[thorn tree]

chyrosran has done a video

[short bolt]

seems hardware canucks had too, surprised

[thorn tree]

is he trustworthy?

[short bolt]

established enough

it's hard to know which tubers are paid shills who don't properly review things

[thorn tree]

idk about keyboard stuff but atleast audio stuff most of the famous tech youtubers arent really trustworthy

[thorn tree]

if they only have gaming keyboards i wouldnt trust them

[short bolt]

i found enough negativity about analog kbs that i won't be buying that at least

;D

[thorn tree]

also i dont get the name analog

if its not a typewriter how is it analog

[short bolt]

https://youtu.be/gg1qg6KYjp8?t=90

edited for timestamp

[thorn tree]

i guess that makes sense

[short bolt]

adjustable actuation height and analog movements like joysticks is probably about it?

and those macro possibilities to same keypress depending on how far you press it

[thorn tree]

where is it useful?

[short bolt]

gaming

productivity too if you use macros.

[thorn tree]

i mean i pretty much always bottom out so wouldnt work for me

[short bolt]

some of the comments canucks had was just that

"it's too hard to control how far you press it"

learning that would definitely take time

[thorn tree]

if it was tactile it might work

[short bolt]

i have over 26 years of keyboard typing experience now

so unlearning those habits would probably be impossible

[thorn tree]

if the tactile bump was lower than usual

[short bolt]

i'm genuinely curious though

but not curious enough to spend 250€/$ to test it

[thorn tree]

i could learn to type with another layout within a few weeks with about 50% of my usual typing speed so just pressing lighter shouldnt be too hard

[short bolt]

yeah but learning those actual actuation points i mean

when gaming

let's say you're used to bottoming out

and now all of sudden you'd want to macro 3 things to one key

depending on height

[thorn tree]

3 keys is probably overkill

[short bolt]

even 2 sounds hard when the distance is literally like 1-3mm max

[thorn tree]

other one is bottom out other is normal

[short bolt]

hmm

i have used chiclet keyboards before and prefer linear style switches

so maybe it could be possible

using cherry mx silents now

[thorn tree]

why cherry

[short bolt]

because i wanted silent mechanical keyboard

and cherry was first one to come up with silent mechanical switch

[thorn tree]

doesnt gateron have some silents

also i dont really get silents

[short bolt]

wouldn't know, cherrys ones are amazing though soundwise

for me i always stayed away from mechanicals because of noise before

so when silents came out i went for mechanical immediately thinking "fucking finally, i can buy mechanical kb"

been using this for couple years now

[thorn tree]

my endgame would probably be topres but u cant really get them for customs

[short bolt]

there are some defects though with the switches (or most likely with soldering of the switches) which make me want to switch keyboard now though

some of the keys don't always actuate until you hard-press them with force couple times

[thorn tree]

damn

[short bolt]

which suggests to me that there's contact issue with the switch and board

this is what i get for being early adopter.

😄

it's become big enough nuisance that i'm just like "fuck it, i'm buying another kb"

[thorn tree]

u already know what kind?

[short bolt]

thinking of giving optical mechanicals a try

huntsman elite seems interesting

I could get the regular huntsman for really cheap right now though

[thorn tree]

i tried some electrocapasitive or something like that and they were too smooth

just felt like pressing on nothing

[short bolt]

regular huntsman is only 70€ i think

has no media keys though

wondering if i can live without them

or pay 160€ for media keys..

[thorn tree]

i dont recommend razer

[short bolt]

yeah that's the downside

[thorn tree]

but if u listen to music regularly media keys are a must for me

[short bolt]

i have had razer keyboards before

yeah, media keys are kinda mandatory

i agree with you there

i actually still have my razer deathstalker

it's a flat razer keyboard with chiclet keys

[thorn tree]

what switches

oh god

[short bolt]

it's fully functional but i gave it to my mother since she was complaining about having to use laptop at her home for work

i used that thing for LONG time

and to my surprise, it still works

[thorn tree]

keyboards dont really break unless u play rythm games or rage

[short bolt]

seems i bought it in 2015 so i'd say that's pretty good for razer product.

i can't say same for razer mice though

i'm on my third razer naga..

third.

[thorn tree]

why are u still using razer

[short bolt]

that's the trick

razer is only one who has made good MMO mouse

so as someone who wants those side buttons.. they are the only option

corsair has their scimitar which is almost the same, but lacks some things i want

[thorn tree]

why not just get a macropad

[short bolt]

keyboard has its own macros for me, mouse different ones

for gaming it's just something i absolutely must have for MMOs

I don't need it for anything else though

[thorn tree]

when i played mmos i didnt really need any macros

[short bolt]

mouse just has every spell boudn to it and items

[thorn tree]

a 60% keyboard and a regural mouse was enough

[short bolt]

keyboard has macros

[thorn tree]

macros for what

[short bolt]

gaming 🙂

i do have g502 logitech which i tried to use last year, i actually liked it for everything else but MMO gaming

oh, and for dota 😛

when you've built gamestyle completely reliant on having that hardware, unlearning that is just something you don't want to do

as f*d up as it is

[thorn tree]

is swearing not allowed here?

[short bolt]

Nope, everything is forbidden.

[blazing star]

My kit should be here soon

I’m excited

[thorn tree]

what kit did u get?

[blazing star]

Drop CTRL barebones

I did get replacement stabs too

[thorn tree]

what switches did u get

[blazing star]

Durock yellows

[thorn tree]

oh yeah

forgot already

[blazing star]

Lol

[short bolt]

choices choices

linear switch preferable, cherry red style-ish

wondering if i should just go with ducky

and sacrifice media keys

[thorn tree]

gateron yellows are really good

[short bolt]

hmm

[thorn tree]

cant u do custom?

[short bolt]

nah, fuck custom

i want something i can pretty much get instant

custom would be acceptable if i can buy it for roughly $200

i know nothing of custom scene or shops even though

[pallid trout]

There's the Q1 for I think $130-$150 barebones.

[thorn tree]

customs go from around 80¤ to as much as you can pay

[pallid trout]

For a PC case it can get even cheaper.

[short bolt]

just looking at what shops there are in EU

[thorn tree]

keygem is pretty good

[short bolt]

oh these are just all in parts

i'm not building a keyboard, not interested in that sadlyt.

[thorn tree]

ducky is pretty good but ofc no media keys without layers

[short bolt]

i'd be more than happy to buy something that comes preassembled , price really isn't issue as long as it doesn't really go above those 200-250€ ranges.

[thorn tree]

also id recommend getting a hot swap

not sure if duckys are

[pallid trout]

Q1 comes in an assembled SKU.

There's also the GMMK.

[thorn tree]

gmmk is probably a good option

[short bolt]

link me q1

[thorn tree]

q1 looks really good

[pallid trout]

https://www.keychron.com/pages/qmk-prelaunch

[short bolt]

preorder? meh

😛

[pallid trout]

It's basically a cheaper GMMK Pro, though I'd be a bit wary since Keychron is a much smaller company.

It's an option.

[short bolt]

mhm

[pallid trout]

If it turns out well it basically invalidates the GMMK Pro lol

[short bolt]

Is Varmilo any decent?

seeing lots of their boards on the higher end side on local shop

haven't heard of that brand myself

[pallid trout]

I've heard of them here. There's a guy who would recommend them.

[short bolt]

They have some pretty interesting looking options

keycaps mostly

seems common theme for pretty much all of these is that you sacrifice media keys though

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/153956/va109mp2w-llpandx/varmilo-va109m-panda-mekaaninen-nappaimisto-cherry-mx-silent-red-harmaa-valkoinen-vihrea

[thorn tree]

theyre on a layer probably

[short bolt]

yep

[thorn tree]

visually i dont personally like it but seems good otherwise

[short bolt]

yeah that's just one of many, not something i'd buy in those specific colors 😛

more my jam

[thorn tree]

scuffed windows keys but looks pretty nice

does it say how the keycaps legends are printed

[short bolt]

pbt

[pallid trout]

side-print gang

[thorn tree]

seems dye sub

[short bolt]

ducky that is then

ducky or huntsman elite, kek

[thorn tree]

so looks good but might wear of after some years

[short bolt]

shame that corsair built their k70 in such a shitty fashion.

[thorn tree]

most corsair stuff looks pretty bad

[short bolt]

i bought this k70 because they had exclusivity deal on cherry mx silents then

unfortunately, build one shitty product and you end up to my boycott list

[pallid trout]

Nah Ducky.

[short bolt]

no excuses at this point anymore on it being individual unit either since i've already switched the keyboard once due to the same issue

[thorn tree]

i dont really trust any gaming gear other than mice

[short bolt]

razer is known for their.. "quality" so that definitely leans me to ducky 😛

[pallid trout]

Swiftpoint Z gang

[short bolt]

let's see what duckies there are in stock in finland!

[thorn tree]

idk how finland has them in stock but germany amazon is usually week shipping and swedish shops might be a bit faster

[thorn tree]

maxgaming seems to have them

https://www.maxgaming.fi/shop?funk=gor_sokning&q=ducky

[short bolt]

kek https://furiku.dev/chrome_UuBkJFMzP3.png

almost tempted.

GMMK + gateron reds and keycaps. could order keycaps elsewhere too

if it's just plug&play switches i could probably do it myself too

[unkempt dome]

the most important thing about a mouse is for you to be comfortable with it ... size, grip, hand position ... if you find yourself always replacing your hand on the mouse then it's probably not the mouse for you. That being said the g502 is not a bad mouse but I've seen a lot of people saying it can starts to double click after a certain time.

[potent void]

the og gmmk has 3 pin hotswap switches

[thorn tree]

you can put any mx switches on gmmk

[short bolt]

yup

so many choices, we'll see 😄

[thorn tree]

i would look for some better choices than cherry

[short bolt]

i haven't been convinced of there being better choices beyond cherry

[thorn tree]

pretty much everything is better

other than outemu

[short bolt]

hmm

[thorn tree]

if you mind waiting for it to ship from germany id recommend these https://keygem.store/collections/switches/products/gateron-silent-ink-10pcs

[short bolt]

looking at gaterons right now

[potent void]

did you want silent switches?

[short bolt]

I prefer silent/Linear

but i'm okay with browns too

[thorn tree]

if you are okay with non silent linears the normal gateron inks are probably better

[unkempt dome]

only things I heard about varmilo are good ...

[unkempt dome]

i can assure you that there's a lot of better choice than cherry

[short bolt]

this sorta defies all common wisdom i've known

where cherry =!= king

[unkempt dome]

well I'll say like a lot of others say here ... check out boba switches ... my next set will most likely be boba u4t

[short bolt]

but i don't follow kb stuff so maybe my info is just outdated af

[thorn tree]

does boba do linears?

[unkempt dome]

well I've tried some cherry switches and I can tell you that there's often better offering and most of the time for cheaper with other brands

yes boba does linear and silent linear as well as silent tactile and tactile

[thorn tree]

i have some boba u4 silents in a tester and theyre really scratchy

[unkempt dome]

that's sad ...

[worn storm]

Do any of these logitech mice not have the double click issue? >.<

[thorn tree]

ive never heard of them having any and never had any myself

[worn storm]

My 502 double clicked, my 703 just started doing it as well >.<

[unkempt dome]

my g305 do not double click so far ... they are omron 20M click

I heard the omron 50M tend to double click more

[worn storm]

Scroll wheel seems to be malfunctioning now too

[thorn tree]

only problems ive had with logitech is the software and my 502 scroll wheel got rusty and gave me rash

[unkempt dome]

yeah ghub is a mess

[worn storm]

Configure mouse, uninstall seems to be the correct solution to their software >.<

[thorn tree]

for every mouse software

[worn storm]

Yea, keyboard software too >.<

[unkempt dome]

I don't use keyboard software

never have ... hopefully never will

[worn storm]

never had to flash firmware before?

[unkempt dome]

no

not sure why I would need to do that ...

[main narwhal]

falls under warranty

i've had them replace a mouse for me kinda hassle free

i didn't even have to send it back, but I did have to make a video using a click detection website showing the double click

and sending it to them via email. After that, they just sent me another one

plus the receipt and all that other normal stuff

[worn storm]

Would have done that if i had any clue where "that normal stuff" was

Don't really make a habbit out of worrying about paperwork for inexpensive purchases, mostly just curious if they make a product that doesn't have click/scroll issues

[unkempt dome]

slam clicking ?

yeah that's not what we were talking about

we were talking about switches developing double clicking issue after some time

which is an issue

and some switches develop it more that others

I don't know how to fix that is software

[austere jacinth]

Dude , everything good and shorted now
a reddit user helped in the sleep mode issue of y keyboard , now i can set timer or turn it off
have some practice with the keyboard too
totally recommended but go for gk61 if u dont need dedicated arrows as the right shift is completely eFed

here's my keyboard , dont mind my dirty table or 11 years old thumb drive or my anatomy notebook tho https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809130473162276924/860448417897250816/video_20210702_144406.mp4

[junior lodge]

Noice! But what's so bad about the shift key? What's the issue?

[austere jacinth]

its so freakin' small

the right shift

check in the vid

[warm merlin]

Anyone having a HyperX keyboard?

I am not able to change the preset lighting via the preset buttons on the keyboard, I have to open up the app everytime. Any idea what might be the issue?

[junior lodge]

Oh yeah saw it now

That can be an issue while playing games

[austere jacinth]

its not an issue in gaming for me but yeah during typing

[verbal canopy]

Just gotta learn to use left shift more

[violet geyser]

Who uses right shift lmao

[desert ore]

I own a Logitech G213 and prefer Cherry MX Browns.

[boreal rivet]

noted.

[untold orchid]

I'll be finally making a custom once the keychron q1 goes on sale and I seriously cant decide what switches I want. u4t bobas are so nice but I also love kiwis. and now that I have also tried lubed banana splits on my friends board some nice linears would also be great........

[short bolt]

Choices choices

Anyone know much about Varmilos EC switches?

I'm switching from k70 with mx silent reds, looking at Varmilos offerings now and wondering between another mx silent red board or trying out these EC v2 sakura switches varmilo has

[austere jacinth]

[leaden shell]

you disgrace

[boreal rivet]

Topre or die

[untold orchid]

no idea about varmilos own switches but I have a varmilo VA69 right now with mx reds and aside from the switches this is an amazing board

[short bolt]

😄

[untold orchid]

tbh even the switches aint that bad

[short bolt]

only reason i'm even considering switching is because k70 is badly built

[untold orchid]

I came from a k70 mk2 as well

[short bolt]

they've soldered these switches badly, contact issues.

[untold orchid]

the difference is like night and day

[short bolt]

yep

Wondering if i should get ANOTHER cherry of same switch type with better build quality

or try another switch

more unique switches like topre that was suggested would work too, but i'm not building my own kb. has to be in-stock and available in ISO layout

[boreal rivet]

Topre is literally prebuilt only though

[short bolt]

yeah, but i can't find them in eu 😄

[boreal rivet]

And in iso

[untold orchid]

I need ISO too which is why I want the keychron q1 when it releases

[boreal rivet]

Mechmarket

[short bolt]

some subreddit? yeah nope.

i'm only dealing with companies as buyer

[boreal rivet]

your loss

[short bolt]

People are untrustworthy sadly 😦

[boreal rivet]

Yea if you choose pay with f&f lol

[untold orchid]

Old vs current btw

my setup used to be pretty dogshit as you see lmao

[tall blade]

my setup

[normal gazelle]

The keyboard so small

[short bolt]

Looking at the full sized moonlight myself atm ;P

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/172115/ma109mo2w-llpn23-bst1/varmilo-b-stock-ma109m-moonlight-mekaaninen-nappaimisto-ec-sakura-musta-harmaa-turkoosi

[untold orchid]

My entire setup btw

[untold orchid]

oh you're finnish too lmao

[normal gazelle]

Setup is clean

[wanton magnet]

what is the general consensus of the corsair k60?

[violet geyser]

Browns

[untold orchid]

trash

[boreal rivet]

Another one who thinks it's funny to laugh at someone for using a switch they think they don't like

Love this community, still the same after 5 years

[thorn tree]

Browns are pretty objectively bad

[boreal rivet]

Do you have any objective evidence?

[thorn tree]

No and i dont need any

[untold orchid]

smoothness and tactility

[boreal rivet]

Then your point is moot.

[untold orchid]

they are pretty much just a scratchy linear

the fact is, is mx browns are your preference you have not tried any other options and stick with what you think is good

[boreal rivet]

I know what a mx brown is

[untold orchid]

its not making fun of anyone, its just that its objectively inferior

[boreal rivet]

I've been in this hobby longer than you

[thorn tree]

And?

[untold orchid]

I didnt say I have been?

and how is that relevant lol

[boreal rivet]

I don't see why you needed to explain to me what a mx brown is

[thorn tree]

Why are you so aggressive lol

[untold orchid]

maybe I told that to the other people reading the chat, for example the dude that originally said he wants browns lol

[thorn tree]

He was probably a troll

[boreal rivet]

I think it's pretty evident that your message was directed at me

[untold orchid]

also

[boreal rivet]

But sure no problem my bad

[untold orchid]

I gave objective evidence

[boreal rivet]

You and I have different definitions of objective then, to each his own.

[thorn tree]

What

How do you have a different definition of objective

[untold orchid]

^

[boreal rivet]

If you think stating something with nothing to back it up is objectivism then like I said, to each his own.

[thorn tree]

Wtf

[untold orchid]

if you deny my statements then I don't even know what to say because literally everyone in the community takes them as facts

[unkempt dome]

Cherry browns are so far the worst switches I've used aside from outemu blue ... but I still use them cause they are in my durgod fusion and I love that keyboard color scheme and I don't really want to desolder them cause I know that I'm not good at soldering ... also I don't know which switches I want to put in there.

Yet

[verbal canopy]

personally i don't think the main problem with mx browns is even the tactility, the amount of ping and crunch stock cherry springs have is a lot more distracting, especially if the prebuilt is very hollow

[hexed zealot]

Is it possible to purchase custom keycaps somewhere? I'm specifically looking for keycaps that fit kailh choc switches.

Custom as in where i can choose the text printed on them mostly. other than that they should be pretty standard

[verbal canopy]

not really possible, especially for chocs

[hexed zealot]

I found some sites that sell blank keycaps for them. But i assume it's not likely to print them myself

[elder stone]

there aren't that many, yeah

[verbal canopy]

you can attempt to dye sub them yourself

[elder stone]

though I think Kailh themselves are offering something, but it might just be blank

[verbal canopy]

they do not

[hexed zealot]

Dye sub? Never heard of it. Do you have a tutorial for that?

[elder stone]

they do, but I just saw... they are blank

[hexed zealot]

@elder stoneHmmm, as far as i could find you can either purchase a basic us qwerty layout or blank keycaps from them. I couldn't find anything remotely custom

[elder stone]

touche

but yeah, it really is a niche, sadly

because in my eyes Kailh choc is still one of the nicest LP switches, even if I'm the last person to like lp

[hexed zealot]

I blame my 'belgian period' keyboard layout tbh. Can't find that layout on any decent keyboard usually.

[verbal canopy]

if it's choc switches you'll have to build your own for that layout most likely too

[elder stone]

yeah, even ISO is surprisingly hard to find

that's why I use ANSI myself on custom boards

though I can technically type on either

[hexed zealot]

@verbal canopyHow do you build them yourself?

[verbal canopy]

though most custom choc boards are 40's and under tbh

so even then you'd not be using a regular layout anyway

[boreal rivet]

You design and build it yourself

That's all you can do

[elder stone]

in most cases with choc, you buy prebuilt

[boreal rivet]

The more well known designers don't give a flying fuck about choc

[verbal canopy]

choc is just that niche

[boreal rivet]

Or anything that isn't mx

[verbal canopy]

choc users are people who prioritise ergo or smaller board layouts

and legends don't really mean much for people who have multiple layers under a single key

there was a Group Buy for mbk legends a few months back for choc caps with legends
One of the vendor links:
https://www.littlekeyboards.com/products/mbk-legend-keycaps

can't join it now though

[boreal rivet]

It's ortho only anyway

[verbal canopy]

no

they're keycaps

not a keyboard

its any layout your keyboard is

[boreal rivet]

Yes ortho layout only

[elder stone]

in most cases, I'd look at prebuilts like

• Drevo Joyeuse
• Gamdias Hermes M3
• Hexgears X1
• Logitech G815/915
• Royal Kludge 96-key (officially called Shorthand, but that doesn't give you any results)
• Sharkoon Purewriter

[verbal canopy]

it's just not true, any choc board in any layout will take the keycaps

it doesn't matter

and Ortho is strictly a grid layout, it doesn't include Columnar Stagger boards

which is probably the most common type of board built with chocs

[boreal rivet]

Well yes but it's kitted for ortho

[verbal canopy]

40's don't use much mods

it'll fit any choc 40

ortho or not

[hexed zealot]

So from what i read getting custom printed keycaps for kailh choc is impossible.

The only option is to do it myself

[verbal canopy]

yes

or jank garage solution

[hexed zealot]

But what does doing it myself mean? Are there some tutorials you can recommend?

garage solution?

[boreal rivet]

You buy yourself a very expensive machine

[hexed zealot]

don't like the start of that

[verbal canopy]

get a resin printer, make your own caps

[hexed zealot]

Maybe i should just get used to us qwerty already hehe

seems like the simpler solution

[verbal canopy]

true

or use blanks

[hexed zealot]

while i do know my keyboard layout in and out, that would definitely mess up my brain

[surreal heath]

i modded my keychron k8. it was very fun

I still need to find some cool keycaps for it

[young spoke]

best keyboard with yellow switches and hot swappable and idc about rgb under £80

[elder stone]

Kemove Snowfox/Shadow/DK61 (non-optical) would be a nice option

though it's not the easiest to find the yellow variation for, it does have a version with it

alternatively you can just take a hotswap board or barebones kit and add yellows yourself... they should sell around 2 bucks/10

[ivory ingot]

late, but https://www.keycaps.info/

[chrome raft]

thanks

ill keep that

[wanton magnet]

how good of a custom mechanical keyboard with controllable rgb could i get for $100

[rocky crescent]

usd?

@wanton magnet

[wanton magnet]

yes

[blazing star]

you could get an ok wormier

going a bit over would be ok too

i'd recommend maybe a wormier 60% with lubed gat yellows

I type super fast so linears are just how i roll

[wanton magnet]

ill have to do some research

[rocky crescent]

you could get a budget build

like the gk61x

https://www.banggood.com/Geek-Customized-GK61X-GK61XS-Keyboard-Kit-Hot-Swappable-60-pencent-RGB-Wired-bluetooth-Dual-Mode-PCB-Mounting-Plate-Case-Keyboard-Customized-Kit-p-1719597.html?cur_warehouse=CN&ID=62878306288382&rmmds=search

[blazing star]

https://www.amazon.com/Womier-Keyboard-Swappable-Mechanical-Crystalline/dp/B08SM3YFG2

[rocky crescent]

https://www.banggood.com/70PCS-Pack-3Pin-Gateron-Linear-Yellow-Switch-Keyboard-Switch-for-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-p-1426530.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search

[ionic briar]

you could do the gk61x wombo combo with akko cs or gat yellow
but its stiff af typing experience and usb port has the tendency to brake off if you are not careful when removing the pcb

[rocky crescent]

and then keycaps ur choice

[blazing star]

https://divinikey.com/products/krytox-gpl-205-grade-0-switch-lubricant

Just make sure you get some of this and lube your switches

Lube. Your. Switches. It makes a difference.

@ionic briar my drop ctrl shows up tomorrow, i have a full set of lubed durock yellows ready to go into it and some sunset keycaps, I will update you once it's all put together

gonna plumber's tape mod my stabs as well, lube with gpl205g0

[wanton magnet]

its safe to say that i can put any custom keycap as long as its the same stem as the switch

[blazing star]

@wanton magnet depends

[ionic briar]

noice
do tune the stabs tho, its horrendous stock

[blazing star]

you can't use cherry or lower profile keycaps on north-facing switches

[blazing star]

i have durock plate-mount stabs

[ionic briar]

oh cool
still tune em to a degree please

[wanton magnet]

i really like thin keyboards

[blazing star]

I will

[wanton magnet]

would putting thin caps on a regular size switch affect anything other than aesthetics

[blazing star]

Like I said, gonna plumber’s tape and lube them

[wanton magnet]

where can i get good cheap pudding keycaps that dont have annoying logos on them

[ionic briar]

wdym by logo?

[potent void]

they only off key is the spacebar but hyperx pudding keycaps. my brother has em

[wanton magnet]

like on the hyperx ones how they have the logo on the spacebar

[ionic briar]

oh
then generic puddings on amazon wont have that
but again, generic puddings and hyperx puddings are like meh
the only thing that hyperx pudding has over generic is that its thicker

id rather go with drop artifact bloom

[wanton magnet]

something like this https://www.amazon.com/havit-Keycaps-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B07SGF9DTY/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=pudding+keycaps&qid=1625447675&sr=8-6

i dont know how the quality is though

i like thin keyboards so i will probably go with that if i dont find others

i can just pop them onto a k60 or something

[ionic briar]

keycaps wall will be thin
and idk if corsair bottom row spacing is normal or they do the 1u windows key with 7u spacebar and all that stupid shit

[wanton magnet]

ill have to see

[silent otter]

Whats the main difference between the snowfox and the shadow?

[wanton magnet]

i would buy a g915 but its logitech and like 200 bucks lmao

[wanton magnet]

cool just by comparing the lengths of the keys, it looks like they will fit the k60

[ionic briar]

color

thats it

[wanton magnet]

i know this channel is for like custom mechanical keyboard enthusiasts so i feel weird talking about corsair keyboards with cherry switches

[pallid trout]

Nah dw

Honestly, if you like your Razer Huntsman or your Corsair K95, keep enjoying it.

[wanton magnet]

what do people think of the cherry violas?

[pallid trout]

Just know that, unless someone needs the features on either of them, no keyboard enthusiast will recommend them.

[wanton magnet]

i heard they are a little rough

[silent otter]

Thanks

[ionic briar]

its fine smoothness wise
but ridiculously pingy
and the keeb that has it from corsair is like 100 usd
for that price hexgears gk705 is a thing

[wanton magnet]

im really only going with corsair because my other peripherals and some pc components are corsair and i like having one or 2 softwares to control everything

it is nice to have others opinions though even if they are negative

it allows me to see the estimated value and even sometimes get suggestions

ive already made lots of changes to my pc list just from this discord

[pallid trout]

Fair enough.

If you want some value there's always the Chinese hotswap market.

And the GMMK.

[potent void]

The keyboard I have from them is okay but I can’t recommend it. Their software is good though at least

Way too much spring ping in the switches and rattley stabs

I’m sure it’s not

For a gaming keyboard though it’s fine

[ionic briar]

hyperx alloy is another one
tho if you dont care about rgb, leopold boards are a thing and they are as good as prebuilt can get

[potent void]

Nah. A desktop amp and dac is way superior

Hm. I guess then

[ionic briar]

then use it i guess?
cause technically its free, you got gifted it

and anything free will have infinitive value

whats your case?

cause vertical gpu mount most of the time result in pathetic thermals

[potent void]

Do you have no room for it in the pcie slot

Audio cards aren’t that big. Unless the gpu is thick

Oh I see

i hope so

wow

yeah it might be better in that case. if it doesn’t fit, either move your gpu or give it to someone

good luck!

ew

seems about average to me

an amp and dac costs about the same so

[chrome raft]

Color

[elder stone]

Color

[potent void]

Color

[silent otter]

Thats pretty nice

tell me something i dont know already

[potent void]

did you know the snowfox is white

[unkempt dome]

White with a black trim

[pallid trout]

[young spoke]

k

[vague barn]

best keyboard under $50?

[vague barn]

the reddragon one?

[blazing star]

man some people are just crazy

some people really got upset that I got a drop board

I know

but why are people so pissy though

[unkempt dome]

No idea ...

I guess that it's because it's expensive for no apparent reason or that there's other similar offering for less money

Maybe

[ionic briar]

prob because they are not the best price to perf barebone that you can get
and it has some quirks that depend on the ppl, might be objectively worse
like stiff typing experience (the trend currently is soft)

[blazing star]

I like stiff typing tho

prefer it to soft tbh

and the stabs suck, which is fair

Probably not the best value either

For me personally it ticks all the boxes so I got it

[unkempt dome]

About the same as when I talk about getting the system76 launch keyboard ... some can be really aggressive in trying to persuade me from getting the gmmk pro instead ...

[blazing star]

@unkempt dome I was about to say that it looks ok but then

[unkempt dome]

Still looks great and it have all I want a on keyboard

[blazing star]

it's aluminum but it looks plastic

and the layout is too funky for me

[unkempt dome]

I don't care if it looks plastic

[blazing star]

also north facing so r/mk is gonna hate it

[unkempt dome]

I don't care about north facing

[blazing star]

i mean it's a fine board, if you like it then I'm happy for you

I'm not criticising your choice

I'm just remarking that I thought it was plastic until I scrolled down a bit

[blazing star]

<@&750150305383186585> advertiser

[elder stone]

Main thing is some odd designs with the pcb

Best shown on ALT and CTRL

[blazing star]

north-facing and 3pin only?

[elder stone]

And with CTRL specifically there's Hexgears Gemini, which is by the designers who drop partnered with, and is cheaper

No, a really weird trace layout

This is ALT

And this weird trace layout has caused a higher than usual failure rate

[blazing star]

i did see that mentioned but didn't think it really mattered

cause as long as they work... it's not really an issue

The Hexgears Gemini wouldn't have saved me any money cause I went barebones anyways cause I'm doing my own switches and keycaps

[elder stone]

How much did you pay for one?

[blazing star]

$150

and looking at the hexgears gemini it looks like literally the same thing

including the PCB

Like even if I got the Hexgears, I'd still be changing switches and keycaps anyways

@elder stone so basically the same thing

maybe i should've gotten the hexgears but it's w/e now honestly

CTRL has QMK even if it's kind of funky, which is better than KLL too

[elder stone]

Yeah, only difference is price

Though I haven't seen the pcb up close with Hexgears, so I can't say 100% sure

Only difference is that it's 150 for a prebuilt at hexgears, 150 for a barebones at drop

But yeah, in your case no difference

[blazing star]

I took a look at the Hexgears PCB

it's literally the same board except Drop has QMK

But for my use case, Drop is fine, and I do prefer having QMK to Input Club KLL

Admittedly, it isn't like I took a long look at the PCB, but the traces are still a mess

[blissful patio]

@ionic briar @agile remnant in reference to a conversation you had a month ago; i just recently bought myself a Logitech K780 keyboard; it works pretty well, especially after the ballache getting it to bluetooth-pair in linux, and the udev script necessary to hack in "Fn Lock" functionality

i got it on a ridiculous deal, only £10, a seller in the UK had stock of german layout boards, and they assumed (wrongly!) that there would be no demand

[elder stone]

sadly, then

because I did really like the Gemini as a board, but yeah

you're not wrong in your regard

[blazing star]

TBH I didn't know about the Gemini before

but still, it's better to get the CTRL for me

QMK is pretty big

[elder stone]

yeah, I'm not blaming you

they're still nice boards

though I really really really like what Keychron showed off recently

[blazing star]

yeah

Keychron makes good stuff, just not the kind of stuff I'm really into

[elder stone]

and if I didn't buy a kbd67l on pre-order already, I would've bought one

seen the q1?

[blazing star]

like if I was to get anything else, it would be id87

[blazing star]

oh my god

i absolutely hate when keyboards come with the arrow keys shifted like that

and the shortened right shift key

That's why I didn't get the GMMK Pro

[elder stone]

well, this is similar to GMMK pro

there's just one major difference

instead of 200, this one is 140 barebones

[blazing star]

that's nice!

[elder stone]

or 170 with gateron switches+keycaps

and it does have QMK support as well

[blazing star]

I'm honestly not a fan of how the trend is towards less stiff typing experiences

i love how stiff typing feels

[elder stone]

but yeah, I have a kbd67 lite on pre-order, I'll keep it on that as portable board

[blazing star]

I'm one of those weirdos who uses right shift so a shortened right shift is just irritating to me

[elder stone]

together with my current GMMK

[blazing star]

I like having a stabilizer right under my pinky when i type

[elder stone]

well, I don't use that shift, so that helps

[blazing star]

Left shift is for gaming only

[elder stone]

I use it for both typing and gaming, personally

[blazing star]

I find with shortened shift without the stabilizer, when I type I'll pull the shift down sideways

like it's just irritating to me

[elder stone]

we all have our own... interesting things

I have my own as well

like being unable to type on anything that's below 60g bottom out

well, keep in mind I have a ton of switches here

[deep quarry]

What’s a good preassembled with pcb and stabilizers tkl keyboard frame

[elder stone]

most of what you can think of when it comes to heavier linears

it is

[elder stone]

well, if you're fine with 75% and can wait a bit, Keychron Q1 would be a decent option

though it's not out yet, but looks amazing on paper

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113423.0

they did, though no pricing is known yet

[chrome raft]

I need someone to help me cause I want to start getting into building keyboard and don’t know what to buy. I already found key caps

[deep quarry]

Ok

[marsh raft]

what is the quietest tactile switch?

mechanical switch lol

theres no slow mode?

so i can spam?

im not gonna tho

but thats weird

but also cool

ok

are pewters good?

ok thanks

[elder stone]

you'll need in total

• case
• pcb
• plate
• switches
• stabilizers
• keycaps

optionally and depending on the board/switches/alike, you might need

• hotswap sockets
• lube
• foam
• orings
• films
• cable
• wrist rest
• keycap puller
• switch puller
• springs
• carrying case
• soldering iron

[marsh raft]

its not like im gonna buy them but good to know

[elder stone]

I just included basically everything I can think of lol

touche

[chrome raft]

Here are the key caps and a max budget of 150 but I would like closer to 100 (usd) https://flashquark.com/product/pom-jelly-mochi-keycaps-104-keycap-set/?utm_source=IGShopping&utm_medium=Social

[marsh raft]

u forgot the usb c cable >:)))) @elder stone

[elder stone]

and I got the one from kbdfans at the time

[elder stone]

I included cable

[chrome raft]

Wait what’s a good parts site

[marsh raft]

crap

[elder stone]

but yes, I did

[marsh raft]

kbdfans.com

[chrome raft]

Thanks

[marsh raft]

welcome

[elder stone]

40 for the rest is going to be too tight, depending on what you're exactly looking for

and there are so many vendors, honestly

but yeah, the site above does include quite a few

oh, and aliexpress and alike also often have official shops from these vendors

[chrome raft]

Ok thanks

But what’s a good starter pcb

[elder stone]

but it depends entirely on what you're looking for, honestly

[chrome raft]

Just a nice keyboard that looks good and is quiet

Let me just copy and paste that into a Txt file

[elder stone]

mind you, a barebones kit would already include a lot

which come in many shapes and sizes

... literally

[chrome raft]

What is the cheapest good mechanical keyboard

[chrome raft]

Ok thanks!

True, not wireless I just mean like good quality ish

[elder stone]

Often when looking at relatively cheap, I'd say hexgears gk707/gk705

[marsh raft]

idk

prob sum like gk61

or sum unknown/random thing you'll find on amazon

[elder stone]

Considering the board is pretty much worth itself in switches and hotswap sockets alone

Still a gk61 variation, but yeah

[chrome raft]

Does this look good for quality and I would only need switches and caps right? https://kbdfans.com/collections/fully-assembled-keyboard/products/fully-assembled-keyboard-alopow-60-resin-case-dz60-v3-soldered-mechanical-keyboard

[elder stone]

Just a wireless mechanical one

Yeah, dz60 is a decent pcb

[chrome raft]

Ok thanks

[marsh raft]

should prob get some keycaps... and mabye some foam

[elder stone]

Kbd67 lite is also nice if you're willing to preorder it

[blazing star]

I use a super stiff board now and I like it

[elder stone]

Though is outside your budget, even if it comes with a bunch of additional stuff

For context, this is what one of the versions looks like

Which is also the one I have on preorder

[main pumice]

looks kinda noob

[elder stone]

Mute silicone
Rubber feet and screw
RGB hot-swap PCB
KBDFans screw-in stabilizers
KBDfans Stabilizers stickers
Polycarbonate plate
Carrying Case```

That's what it officially comes with according to candykeys

109 usd on kbdfans' site from the top of my head

[chrome raft]

I said keycaps and foam?

What do you recommend over that?

[marsh raft]

foam is optional

[chrome raft]

Ok

What’s foam tho?

[marsh raft]

but keycaps are also optional but VERY nesecary

[elder stone]

Foam is in a lot of cases still beneficial, but it's not mandatory

[marsh raft]

it dampens the sound

[elder stone]

Let's not type on bare switches lol

Then again, another option is modifying a prebuilt board

For example a kemove snowfox

Looks like a barebones kit with additional options for assembly

[chrome raft]

I was thinking about just swapping the keys on my razer chroma

[elder stone]

On a lot of razer boards it's not doable

Since they're 6u instead of 6.25u layouts

[marsh raft]

i think its a kit

[elder stone]

Meaning certain keys on the bottom row are too big or too small to fit

[chrome raft]

I mean more just the caps

The switches are ok

[elder stone]

Only exceptions to this are huntsman te/mini/elite v2 and blackwidow v3 from the top of my head

I'm as well, razer used to have a layout for years that can't fit normal layout keycaps

That's why I like hotswap

Makes everything easier

Including giving my gmmk Durock stabs

[blazing star]

@elder stone I have lubricated Durock yellows

They’re so smooth

[elder stone]

Oh, durock linears are awesome, I agree

Then again, I went with zeal at the time

[chrome raft]

Wait are those the ones that I can’t swap or the ones u you can swap

[elder stone]

That's the ones you can easily swap keycaps with

[blazing star]

I don’t like Zealios

Or Tealios

They’re overpriced IMO

[elder stone]

Tealios are nice

Don't like zealios either

[short bolt]

Why is finding place to buy switches so hard

I've finally found the switches I want, but I have insanely hard time finding them

[blazing star]

wat switch

[short bolt]

gateron silent red optical switches

[blazing star]

https://x-bows.com/products/gateron-optical-switches-110-pc?variant=39498583343166

[short bolt]

Anyone happen to know some EU store?

[west jackal]

are gateron optical reds tactile or linear?

[short bolt]

linear

and i want silent linears specifically too

😄

I'm on k70 with cherry mx silent reds, and i want similar experience

i've been spending several days now finding alternatives and came to this as conclusion on what i want

just need to source a place to actually.. get them

[blazing star]

i'd recommend lubed durock L1

they're still gonna be quieter than a corsair keyboard cause the noise on a corsair board comes from the stabilizers, not the keys themselves

[west jackal]

is the sk64 a good keyboard?

[blazing star]

@west jackal meh, not my cup of tea

also has north-facing switches if you're not into that

[west jackal]

any other issues tho?

[blazing star]

non-standard layout

that right shift is tiny

[west jackal]

ah

[blazing star]

it could make it hard to find aftermarket keycaps

[west jackal]

idrc about the right shift

i only use leftshit

[blazing star]

additionally idk how much i trust it for how cheap it is

[west jackal]

hahahahha like i would have money for that

tbh its not that cheap tho