peripherals

[boreal rivet]

holee mod is just to cheese the sound

it'll feel mushy if you do it

if you want to sacrifice feel for sound without spending time tuning stabs then go ahead

[pallid trout]

If you do it incorrectly then yes. It's not mushy on the stabs on my brother's keyboard.

Feels just fine.

[boreal rivet]

Unless it feels like a 1u switch downstroke I would consider it mushy, if it does then nice job.

[potent void]

I just learned about what that is

Keyboard mods hit different

[verbal canopy]

i hate when people parrot this opinion
It's not that big of a deal for someone new to be careful with using less lube

an easy way to make sure is to just not lube the bottom housing and just lube the stem

[boreal rivet]

which is why its not a beginner lube lol

beginner lube is stuff like 105

where you literally cannot mess it up

[potent void]

Which one of the linear akko switches do you guys recommend? The matcha green ones were recommended but someone said they had ping issues.

[boreal rivet]

ping can be easily resolved by just bag lubing the springs with 105

since you're lubing the switch anyway i say you do the whole thing

[potent void]

Ah alright. Well I like the sound of greens so I’ll go with those. I’ll watch more reviews on them

I wasn’t planning on lubing the switches btw, just the stabs. But I suppose I can lube them at the same time

[boreal rivet]

ah okay

lubing switches takes alot of effort tbh

[potent void]

Which is why I didn’t want to do it yet

[boreal rivet]

yea well try it without lube first i guess

[potent void]

Alright then I’ll go with greens probably and decide if the ping is gonna be an issue

[boreal rivet]

I personally dont mind spring ping since I'm almost always listening to something or too busy with work to notice

I did try to do the topre pcb lube thing once though

my dielectric grease was too thick and ended up causing the springs to stick onto the pcb

[potent void]

F

So I guess at some point I’ll have a keychron k2 with Akko cs greens, lubed stabs and a foam mod

[chrome raft]

Do you guys think the Logitech G915 TKL is worth it's premium price?

[pallid trout]

Christ that thing is $300 USD.

A decently built GMMK Pro costs less.

[pallid trout]

I guess that $300 goes to whatever features you need out of it.

The only things you don't get from an $80~ RK84, though, is the software and the sub-1ms 2.4 GHz wireless.

[chrome raft]

i haven't seen it in person yet, but with it being low profile and wireless speaks to me

wonder if it would feel nice while gaming tho

[pallid trout]

If that's what you want, you should probably skip it and get a hotswappable keyboard.

You can get low-profile switches to pop into it.

Like the wireless RK84 I just mentioned.

Or whatever other keyboard is available in Royal Kludge's lineup.

[chrome raft]

I kinda replaced the keys on this one i currently use, but i'm a bit tired of it 😅

[pallid trout]

Fair enough.

[potent void]

Are those pudding caps?

[chrome raft]

yeah

but the space bar didn't fit 😛

so i kept that one original

[pallid trout]

Still, I'd rather get a low-end custom keyboard for that $300.

[chrome raft]

i don't know how to solder 😅 wish i could

[potent void]

Neat. My brother uses them. Personally not a fan of pudding caps but if you like em that’s cool

[pallid trout]

You don't need to with a hotswap.

Just pull out them switches and push them back in.

[potent void]

There are PCBs with hotswap sockets that do not require solder

[chrome raft]

oh i didn't know about those 😮

i'll check into them soon, first i want to get some audio tech
don't want to spend on everything at the same time 😛 wifey would get mad

[potent void]

I found a video of someone using Akko switches in my keeb. Nice

https://youtu.be/m1kknchuOHs

Those lubed and filmed gat yellows tho

[verbal canopy]

saying it like that makes it seem more complicated than it is.
If its more viscous, use less, anyone with a brain can understand that, whether they're new or not.
Just cos they're a beginner doesn't mean they can't follow basic common sense.

[boreal rivet]

you overestimate this community.

[worldly shale]

got those ocean blues for my first tactile

still have no idea whether i like them or not

[potent void]

Was gonna pick up some Akko switches too

[worldly shale]

they're definitely tactile and have a rounder top bump but idk if i prefer it

i might pick up some box jades to try out what sharper tactility is like since thoseare relatively budget

[potent void]

Glarses said they have a thicc clicc

[lone bay]

https://www.amazon.in/Zebronics-Zeb-War-Gaming-Keyboard-Mouse/dp/B0814Z58YM/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=mechanical+keyboard+and+mouse+combo&qid=1624360954&sr=8-7

cheapest?

ofc it had to be on indian amazon

I dont think they ship that out of india tho

[maiden spoke]

Is it fine that i like the sound of overlubed keyboards?

[valid cypress]

Preference is preference I suppose.

[pallid trout]

You know how it is

It's all about

[maiden spoke]

True lol

[pallid trout]

Obviously, not a lot of people would recommend overlubing but if that's what you like, hey, you do you.

[maiden spoke]

Honestly luning normally i dont see that jurastic difference

But when i started listening to overlubed switches

I was in love

Jk its cool ig

[maiden spoke]

But are there other bad symptoms to overlubing like damaging the keyboard

[pallid trout]

Maybe you'll gunk up movement but other than that, I don't know.

[maiden spoke]

Hmmm

[verbal canopy]

it's a big thing though, if the switch is slow from too much lube it just feels bad to use

[chrome raft]

Hi, I'm looking for something really specific, can anyone help?

[pallid trout]

A question to ask a question. The classic.

But sure.

Bruh I'm not saving that much anymore :(

Fuck Canadian shipping rates

👀

[chrome raft]

omg sorry i couldn't reply in time

I'm looking for a 60% design but with the f1 row keys but not in the tkl style, also, I need the arrow keys but the number pad is not needed, hotswap is preferred but not needed

I need it for portability

I'm planning to make it my "typing keyboard" separate from my gaming keeb

I was planning to replace its switches with durock t1's

oh nice!

thanks very much

😄

ok ok, thanks!

[pallid trout]

So a 65% or a 75%?

There's the RK84

Ah

Oh the dude needs arrow keys.

[chrome raft]

iz ok rk84 has arrow keys

Ill see which one is available in my country

[pallid trout]

Pro Mode allow you to fully program any keys with macros and customization.
Wait without software?

[chrome raft]

compact was the word I was looking for...

[pallid trout]

I was looking at the product description.

Without any of the TKL keys on the side it looks hella good. Much more symmetrical.

Daaang everything else is on the Function layer.
Man I'm kinda wishing this 70% form factor was more common.

[chrome raft]

@pallid trout is the rk84 hot swap?

and compatible with durock t1's?

[pallid trout]

Yes

And it's 5-pin compatible so also yes.

[chrome raft]

hell yeah

thanks man

appreciate it

[pallid trout]

Yooooo

Actually good price

[chrome raft]

lastly, should i lube the t1's with 203, or 205 krytox?

[pallid trout]

Something thin, like Tribosys 3203.

Or, at least, don't lube the legs.

[chrome raft]

I bought a 2 key keyboard, and milky gat yellows and black bottoms, thoughts?

XD

the switches were recommended by a friend

the 2 key keyboard was for osu, and I thought it would be a great practice for lubing

I also bought a pack of 10 durock t1's just to know what it feels like IRL

[chrome raft]

what rank?

[chrome raft]

Im not good sorry

not bad

im like 1.1 mil

havent played in a hot minute

what switch u use

get red

switches dont matter

[chrome raft]

once you finally get back in, prepare, you wont be able to stop

i can

i get rage issues

i get ya

I once did 187 retries trying to get SS

in 1 sitting

dont do that

make s muscle memory

u dont want that

[chrome raft]

the number was more than 187, 187 nwas just the last number I remember from that day

lmao

i play for fun

i can play in a bit for like 3 rounds if you want

[peak sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/261336239318368256/856922193379196968/image0.jpg

I’m going to Home Depot today to get turf for my pc

Huh?

The pump isn’t at the highest point

Here is a visual representation

The highest point is the top red line

The pump is the lower red line

Yeah

I’m getting a new aio that has a more traditional pump placement, but that one should actually fit on top

[pulsar crow]

Hello rubbishly

Remember me

i finished my custom kb

it looks eh alright i guess

First build anyway

Got much to learn

[potent void]

May we see?

[pulsar crow]

sure

I mean its oretty ass

[potent void]

Can’t be that bad

[pulsar crow]

I stained the keycaps

cause

i used those

Plasticy keycaps puller

And not the metal one

Left a stain

[potent void]

It’s simple. I like it

[pulsar crow]

im going to clean it soon

[pulsar crow]

Yup

Trying to go simple

Got anytips for me

?

[potent void]

Uh you could try to get letter-less keycaps or ones with the letters on the side

[pulsar crow]

Noted

i wanted to get gmmks

But

The price

Yikes

Abit too much

[potent void]

They are pretty expensive

[pulsar crow]

Yup

people say the qualoty isnreally good

So

I guess you’re getting what you’re paying for

[potent void]

My keycaps are custom to the board so I’m stuck with them

[pulsar crow]

so u cant change em?

[potent void]

I can, they just have symbols for special commands like brightness because this is technically a Mac keyboard

[pulsar crow]

ohh

like keychron?

can i see them

[potent void]

Yeah it is a keychron

[pulsar crow]

ohh

wait

Keychron has custom keycaps to the board?

is it the grey one

greyish keycaps

[pulsar crow]

pretty neat

[potent void]

If you zoom into the function row you’ll see what I mean

[pulsar crow]

I have a keychron too

i changed the keycaps also

Cause i dont really like the keycaps that came with them

[pulsar crow]

But the keycaps itself is still pretty good

[potent void]

Why did that crop so bad?

[chrome raft]

Can I see ur mousemat

[potent void]

No you can’t have it

[pulsar crow]

Man of culture

[potent void]

It was free :D

[chrome raft]

Give me uwu

[potent void]

I’ll probably change them at some point. I only use like 3 keys on the function row

[pulsar crow]

yup

[stiff cedar]

To be honest, i have no idea, the company just called them red switches

all good

[unkempt dome]

Yes totally ... I hate it so much

Is the 205g0 thick enough to donut dip ?

[oak temple]

I'm looking for tkl keyboard for 150€ max, what would be the best option?

[hexed zealot]

Could someone point me in the right direction for some nice wireless keyboards?
I encounter 2 issues usually.
One is the low battery life usually being less than 20 hours (i would honestly prefer one with replaceable batteries).
The second issue is that it's really hard to find a keyboard that has my specific keyboard layout that i'm used to which is 'belgian period' I find that i don't even have the option to get this with a lot of brands.

[oak temple]

I can't get Leopold keyboards in my country

Those I can get

[prisma basin]

does this look decent for the price? 4 and a half stars, $39.99 normally

[chrome raft]

What do you guys rekon is a good keyboard with the clicky clicky?

[sharp kite]

that has to be one of the most amusing descriptions I've read of a mechanical keyboard in a long time

[chrome raft]

same

lmao

[frigid turtle]

youtube would be a better place to get your answer there are many clicky clicky reviews

[fiery bane]

Don't get blues

Please

For the sanity of all this world

I thought I'd like blue switches

Oh how I was wrong

[ionic briar]

You would be dead with kailh clickbar

[fiery bane]

No

"mechanical feel" keyboard all suck

You get all of the downsides of a mechanical switch

With all the downsides of a membrane

Either get a good membrane or actual mechanical

Also the npet k20 is 4 dollars more with proper mechanical blue, brown, or red switches

Wait a sec

Wtf

dafaq

[ionic briar]

I mean
Typical stereotype from brands

[unkempt dome]

I hated clicky switches until I tried kailh box white ... and after than kailh box navy ... is still prefer tactile but a lot of time I catch myself missing that sharp click

[boreal rivet]

jailhouse phoenix should be similar

if jailhouse is still a thing

[ionic briar]

Yea it does

[boreal rivet]

i know the gen 2 zealios were stupid sharp as well

[fiery bane]

will there be a low profile brown switch?

or will I be stuck with maybe getting a low profile red

I do like having tactile bump, but I prefer short key travel

[boreal rivet]

ehh

low pro stuff isn't popular at all

[ionic briar]

Choc brown?

[fiery bane]

I can type faster on my laptop than on my outemu blue

[boreal rivet]

trying to make a custom choc board is more trouble than its worth

[fiery bane]

sooo from what I can tell I'd be better off getting a low profile membrane

[boreal rivet]

chiclets

specifically

[ionic briar]

Boardsource has a ton of split/ergo choc pcb iirc
But then caps finding would still be a pain

[boreal rivet]

.

[fiery bane]

mmm

[ionic briar]

Nvm they sell choc compatible caps as well

And logitech gl switch is choc

[prisma basin]

does this look better?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CFPXPB7

[fiery bane]

do you really want a wireless keyboard?

[prisma basin]

yes

my pc is gonna be a few feet away from my keyboard and I don't trust wired keyboards in case the wires aren't long enough

[fiery bane]

how many feet is a few feet

[prisma basin]

uh

[fiery bane]

you can always get a usb extension btw

[prisma basin]

3 feet horizontally and 3 feet vertically

vertically as in below

plus, its a double pc setup

a work desktop with a logitech combo m+k and a gaming desktop with whatever I decide to get today

its hard to toss around a wired keyboard when you have two large displays and a small desk

[fiery bane]

you could get a kvm switch

[prisma basin]

kvm?

[fiery bane]

essentially you can use same set of peripherals with two or more different systems

[prisma basin]

ah

so its like those logitech wireless mice that have bluetooth and the dongle

[fiery bane]

kind of

[prisma basin]

they have buttons that swap between each

[stable badger]

Random question for everyone what's your favorite key switch?

[ionic briar]

Gateron yellow cause thats the only switch i have used

[prisma basin]

any type of high-quality membrane switch

[stable badger]

MX Red

[fiery bane]

my laptop scissor switch

[stable badger]

That's a bold statement

[fiery bane]

it's not

I prefer very short key travel

no less than 1.4mm, but closer to 2mm is better

[ionic briar]

Honorable mention to hp scissor switch on the compaq 6520s

[stable badger]

I need a longer key press

[rotund slate]

If I have a budget of $150, what should I get?

[fiery bane]

for what use case

[rotund slate]

Office/gaming

[fiery bane]

office = quiet?

[prisma basin]

I've heard that redragon makes some really good clacky boards

[fiery bane]

do you like tactile or linear

[rotund slate]

I like tactile or linear

[fiery bane]

oh so both are fine

[rotund slate]

I dont like super loud

[fiery bane]

so blues are out of the question

and anything similar to em

[rotund slate]

What if I wanted to make a custom keyboard?

[fiery bane]

as they should

out of budget

[ionic briar]

https://youtu.be/yWQdeph9zc8
Like this?

[rotund slate]

yes

[prisma basin]

who the hell doesn't have a keyboard with a numpad

[rotund slate]

I like that sound

me

[fiery bane]

specific sound?

[rotund slate]

I only want a 60% or 65%

[prisma basin]

oh.

[fiery bane]

me

[rotund slate]

I like the office vibe

[prisma basin]

personally I go all out

[fiery bane]

imo you're sacrificing usability for size with 60%

[stable badger]

I can't really use a keyboard without one

[ionic briar]

Who the hell has a keyboard that looks like this? https://youtu.be/u-tLe78z1jU

[fiery bane]

tkl is kinda my preference

[prisma basin]

all keys + multimedia and macro

[prisma basin]

WHAT THE HELL

WHI

WHY

[ionic briar]

There will be ppl that need that specific layout

[rotund slate]

isnt there like a 30%?

[fiery bane]

wtf

[prisma basin]

the keys aren't even labeled?

wtf

[fiery bane]

oh gaming things

[stable badger]

I have decided this needs to die

[ionic briar]

Thats where the niche of the custom keyboard scene comes to play

[stable badger]

Only good thing for this is macros

[fiery bane]

dafaq

[prisma basin]

OH MY GOD WHY

[ionic briar]

There will be needs for boards like that
For ppl who just need alphas and number keys for portable essay writing

[stable badger]

No backspace I'm screwed

[fiery bane]

60% is portable enough

[prisma basin]

no backspace, enter, and why does end matter

delete is the only key I ever use in that realm

[stable badger]

It also has a 1 key

[ionic briar]

So you want the same level of loudness as my example vid?

[fiery bane]

drop alt any good?

[stable badger]

That end key doubles

[rotund slate]

yes

[boreal rivet]

40s people

[ionic briar]

Overpriced imo

[prisma basin]

what would a 10% look like

[fiery bane]

145usd?

[rotund slate]

how much would it cost if I wanted to build a custom?

[fiery bane]

alright then

[boreal rivet]

Alot

[ionic briar]

Ikki68 is 120 iirc

But gb ended a long while ago

[fiery bane]

I feel bad for anyone who bought the cynosa

or almost any razer peripheral

[ionic briar]

Makerkeyboards phantom looking lit

[prisma basin]

what's wrong with razer

[fiery bane]

the only peripherals they make that are decent is the deathadder and the basilisk and the variants of the basilisk

[ionic briar]

Mostly poor price to performance

[fiery bane]

form over function

[prisma basin]

ah so certain logitech models

[fiery bane]

logitech is no diff

[ionic briar]

Yea

[prisma basin]

I heard genesis made awesome gear but they don't deliver to the US

[fiery bane]

actually for logitech, their office stuff is pretty nice

their G lineup is meh

[prisma basin]

yeah but not their budget gaming lineup

even for budget mice, I'd rather take my chances with a redragon or ET mouse

[fiery bane]

wait what's considered budget mouse?

[ionic briar]

G213 is meh
Only good stuff imho is g102/g203

[stable badger]

Anything under $50

[fiery bane]

G102 and 203 are the same thing

[ionic briar]

Yeap

[fiery bane]

the g502 is pretty decent when it's on sale for 50 CAD

which is roughly41usd

[stable badger]

I have the g502 hero myself

It's not bad honestly

[fiery bane]

I want this

not cause the group

[stable badger]

https://cherryamericas.com/cherry-g86-61411.html

[prisma basin]

hmm

[stable badger]

Look at that insanity

[fiery bane]

KDA is pretty cool and their music is decent but that mouse design just looks great

at least Razer doesn't name everything "G pro"

[prisma basin]

lol

[fiery bane]

G pro mouse, G pro headset, G pro keyboard, G pro mousepad?

[prisma basin]

hey at least its better than nvidia's naming conventions

[stable badger]

Or Windows

[rotund slate]

REccomendations for custom keybaords under $150?

[fiery bane]

any mechanical keyboard can be custom with a keycap swap... right?

[stable badger]

Let's count to 11 kids. 1 2 3.0 3.1 95 98 2000 XP Vista 7 8 8.1 10 11

[fiery bane]

eh that's ok

you forgot me btw

[prisma basin]

"haha yes the 770 is better than the 1030 because that makes sense"

[fiery bane]

and NT

[prisma basin]

we don't talk about ME

[fiery bane]

why

[prisma basin]

ME was a buggy mess

[stable badger]

👆

[fiery bane]

it booted on my ancient Dell once

before it never booted again

it was terrible

it was as bad of windows as it gets

[stable badger]

I can't get it working correctly in a VM let alone a physical machine

[fiery bane]

(I hated windows 7)

[ionic briar]

Gk61x barebone kit, akko cs switch of your preference and drop artifact bloom or gpbt
Tho build quality is expected to be meh at that price point
And their usb port has the tendency to break if you disassemble it hastly

[prisma basin]

I have a PC that runs windows 7

at least

it used to

[rotund slate]

Thank you

[prisma basin]

before I gutted it for parts then proceded to do a linus and drop the motherboard

[stable badger]

That's the most controversial things anyone has said

[fiery bane]

nope

[stable badger]

It's impossible to hate Windows 7

[prisma basin]

Chrome sucks.
(insert angry facebook moms here)

[fiery bane]

in all seriousness Chrome does suck

[stable badger]

Can agree on that now. It used to be good

[fiery bane]

I hated it

[stable badger]

Now it's just a RAM hog

[fiery bane]

I know a few others who do too

[prisma basin]

personally I use edge

swapped over once I realized that it didn't suck

the performance difference is very noticeable on my low-end machine

[open vector]

what is the closest switch to razer optical reds

felt them at best buy and i loved the travel and speed

[ionic briar]

Gateron optival silent red?

[open vector]

no i need a 3 pin switch

or 5 pin

[ionic briar]

So traditional mx switch?
Kailh speed silver?
Much heavier tho
Akko cs vintage white

@open vector

[open vector]

k thanks

any gaterons or cherrys

that are similar

or anything on novelkeys

[ionic briar]

None tbh
If you want the most similar switch spec wise
Actuation force and whatnot
Akko cs is pog, ktt oem

[open vector]

k

[uncut oasis]

I'm building my keyboard right now and my backspace stabilizer is like sticking

I don't know how else to describe it

When I press down on the key it stays pressed down

I am going to try installing the stabilizer again but idk what's wrong

[ionic briar]

Did you reassemble the stab the wrong way

[uncut oasis]

It is possible I'm going to see

[ionic briar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773104202671063071/801059865820135444/STABASSEMBLY.gif
Just in case

[uncut oasis]

That's what I did and all my other stabs are ok

I'm not sure if this helps but the wire comes unclipped when I try and out the key back on

[ionic briar]

Popped wire huh
Whats your stab? Durock v1?

[uncut oasis]

I'm going to be honest I have no clue

The ones that come with the ymdk 64

I think they might be cherry

[ionic briar]

The split keyboard?

[uncut oasis]

Yeah

[ionic briar]

Plate mount stabs
If you switch a stab that is not scuffed in it will still not bounce back?

[uncut oasis]

I'm sorry u don't understand

*I

I don't understand

[ionic briar]

Like
Install a stab from the other keys
And the same thing happens?

[uncut oasis]

Oh I haven't tried yet

I think I figured it out, one of the stabs appears to have been put in wrong

[ionic briar]

Bruh.

[uncut oasis]

I mean I don't know until I try

Time to reassemble the board and but all the switches back in

Yeah that was it

Thank you for all your help though

[potent void]

https://youtu.be/j_xRPUGSWVw

Heresy

[ionic briar]

Ofc its glarses

[chrome raft]

Im looking for affordable, palm grip mouse, rgb not needed, wired or wireless, large hands (preferably but not necessarily white)

[fiery bane]

what counts as "affordable"?

and for what purpose

G502 is decent, deathadder is decent

and is relatively affordable

[chrome raft]

Im sorry for late reply, I'm looking for a comfortable mouse for binge video editing sessions

And around 50 and 60, I don't know

Usd

[chrome raft]

Ahh ok ok

Thanks!

[fiery bane]

for video editing you might want something like an mx master 2s or 3 (can be around 60 when on sale) rather than a gaming mouse

[chrome raft]

Ah, gotcha m8

Thanks

[fiery bane]

just keep in mind that a g502 can be just as good due to it having so many buttons

and also good for gaming

[placid finch]

hey @ionic briar i got the keyboard alongside with their pudding keycaps, i love it

do u want to see pics

[opaque arrow]

anyone knows what this deskmat is?

[crimson isle]

I know what it is, it is adorable

[unkempt dome]

Way more people than you could imagine

[crimson isle]

Numpad is useless, it doesn't have anything useful about it, other than "you might prefer the layout over the main part"

[opaque arrow]

true that

[crimson isle]

saw the video, it sounds wrong what he says about hololive near the beginning...

[opaque arrow]

yep ahahahaha he didnt know what hololive is

[crimson isle]

I do looks at history

[chrome raft]

it’s important for some games

afaik u cant really control aircrafts n shit in gta v w/o a numpad

[crimson isle]

"important" all the keys on numpad are just a 2nd permanently attached keyboard with nothing but the numbers, enter, etc copied over

[chrome raft]

well all im saying is that u cant play some games w/o a numpad

[crimson isle]

you can, easily

not like you lose keys like you do with those weirdly popular keyboard layouts

it is whatever you get used to

[chrome raft]

i personally prefer tenkeyless keyboards, mostly because they use less desk space

and i play w controller anyways

its just sth to keep in mind

[crimson isle]

preferences, nothing important or required about it, unless you are physically incapable of moving your hands to the main part

is what I mean

[chrome raft]

well you would have to do a lot of key remapping for some games

[crimson isle]

you don't have to though, you don't lose numbers, enter, del, etc

they are still there, just less compact

"have to" is a bit exaggerated

[chrome raft]

the kay mapping for normal number keys and numpad keys r different

[boreal rivet]

Yea no one is going to use a layer to play games

[chrome raft]

@crimson isle fire up gta v and try to fly like a helicopter or sth w/o a numpad, it was a while since i did that but afaik its impossible unless u remap they keys

[crimson isle]

would have to own it, lel

[chrome raft]

i didnt know that theres people who still dont have that game

it was literally free at some point

[crimson isle]

It is probably because I don't care about games at all, just sometimes play some MMORPGs

so I really do not look around for anything specifically gaming

[boreal rivet]

Then don't talk as if you do

[crimson isle]

I don't tho

All I am saying is, there is nothing required about it, just preference

[boreal rivet]

The thing is you do require a numpad to fly planes in gta

[chrome raft]

its literally required for some games

[boreal rivet]

Unless you use a numlock layer on the alpha cluster

Which is horrible

[chrome raft]

especially when u can just get a keyboard w numpad

[crimson isle]

Yet to see any game where it is 100% required, (which is pretty much only when you need more keys than anything smaller has)

[boreal rivet]

.

[crimson isle]

I don't look around, I see it sometimes coming across some videos or news, but I never really look for it

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not saying it can't be better you know, not talking about it being better or not

[chrome raft]

it is 100% required, i think u need to fly to complete the story of gta v and its a big disadvantage in online if u cant fly

idk any more games since i always play w controller, i only know that it’s required for gta v

[crimson isle]

"100% required" would mean there is no way around it if you do not have it, which is still possible

[chrome raft]

well yeah but thats a pain

[boreal rivet]

Have you tried a numpad layer on the staggered alpha cluster?

[chrome raft]

if the game doesnt support it, it is

tbh idk if it has that cause i didnt bother much and just grabbed my controller again

ill check later

flying?

[crimson isle]

Here I am just looking at some currently available keyboard cases

[prisma basin]

keyboard.... cases?

[crimson isle]

don't worry bout it

[prisma basin]

brb getting a mouse case

[crimson isle]

ehhh

[prisma basin]

sorry but what the hell is this

its a $74.00 pancake with the apple logo on it

hmm

[fiery bane]

Magic mouse is great as a skipping stone pebble

[unkempt dome]

I don't... last gta I played was top view ... I think it was the gta 2 maybe

[potent void]

is that a magic mouse in an airpods max pad?

[prisma basin]

no its a carrying case for the magic mouse

[potent void]

oh

i bought a case for my trackball so i guess that might appeal to someone

[chrome raft]

ummmm u can use the mouse

left click i think

u need more than 1 button

its like 4 or so

for all axes

[unkempt dome]

after all the review I saw ... I got the xtrfy m42 and I'm very satisfied with it

[opaque arrow]

Do you have any name of the mat?

[pallid trout]

Honestly
I would love a normal mouse with a touch pad for gestures.

Somehow

Like it could replace a lot of buttons and still be relatively light.

Combining gestures would make it even more powerful too, as well as an option to toggle it with one of the few buttons it has.

[potent void]

i was trying to find the exact one on the exact video

[pallid trout]

It'd be a lighter, more elegant Swiftpoint Z.

[potent void]

i found that one

https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/uwu-owo-chocolate-deskmat_2524/

out of stock damn

[tidal salmon]

the shoobs deskmat hmm hmm

[potent void]

Ye

No idea where Taeha got the bunny one

[opaque arrow]

no idea what it's called

[frosty oyster]

Anybody know budgeg 60% keyboard

[rocky shell]

which is better the gk61 or the razer huntsman mini?

[pallid trout]

Depends on what you want.

[rocky shell]

gaming

[pallid trout]

I think Royal Kludge has one.

[pallid trout]

Any keyboard can be used for gaming. Is there anything more specific?

[rocky shell]

uhhhh

feeling?

[pallid trout]

I guess if you want something dead easy then the Huntsman Mini can work out.
The GK61 is hotswappable but only with optical switches.

But if you're considering the Huntsman then maybe you can also consider the Glorious GMMK? That has 5-pin hotswap with the software and ease-of-use of the Huntsman.

I'm biased toward more flexibility for the price but keyboards are almost wholly preferential.

[rocky shell]

aiht ty

[pallid trout]

There's also the Royal Kludge lineup for cheaper, although the software is straight trash. Thankfully, RGB on that thing can be configured right on the keyboard.

My brother has the RK84 and I can attest to its features. It's nuts for sub-$100.

[rocky shell]

the rk61 where i live is trash and i ain't ordering online since the shipping is like 30$

and that;s the only royal kludge keyboad here

[pallid trout]

oof alright

[pallid trout]

Do you care about weight?

Because if you don't I can second the G502. With G-SHIFT it effectively has 21 buttons right on the mouse. Perfect for assigning macros.

Can also cycle through different profiles too, as is the norm for most gaming mice nowadays.

I would also shill the Swiftpoint Z but that's way out of your budget, but I'm just gonna put it out there.

[golden flax]

Heyo ! I need advice

My current keyboard has ghosting and some keys are starting to wear out due to my admittedly harsh presses

What is a keyboard in the 40€ range that would potentially suit me ?

I can go higher, as high as 70, but I'd rather stay closer to 40-50

[pallid trout]

Is it the keycaps that are wearing out? Or the switches themselves?

[golden flax]

It's more specifically the spacebar

It gets stuck

And the keyboard is, well, cheap

[pallid trout]

I see.

Like it physically gets stuck?

[golden flax]

It's not all that great to type on to begin with and it was supposed to be a placeholder

Saying it's stuck isn't right

The best way I could describe it is that the spacebar is wobbly, harder to press down on the right side than the left side, and when I press it on the left side, it tilts to the left until I press it on its right

I'm not looking to repair the keyboard and am not willing to get custom keyswitches

[pallid trout]

I see.
So you're dead set on getting a new keyboard huh?

Just wanna make sure.

[golden flax]

What I want is a new, ready to use keyboard with a numpad and that doesn't have ghosting (I play fighting games and doing half circle motions or pressing two punches at the same time gets tiring after a while of not having your inputs come out)

If it wasn't for ghosting I'd keep it

Having a 2070 super and 32 gigs of ram alongside a 15€ keyboard isn't great.

I'm aware of my financial decision, dw

[pallid trout]

So you're looking for a keyboard with a high Key RollOver.
So membranes are out.

I don't really know of any good mechanical keyboard for €40 except for some Redragon models.

[golden flax]

May I ask what it does, as far as what I'll experience does ?

[pallid trout]

You mean a mechanical keyboard? Or KRO?

[golden flax]

KRO

Never heard that term before

Despite watching LTT for a year and a half, as well as the keyboards under 75$ video

😅

If anti ghosting makes it so that when I press something it outputs it no matter what other key I have pressed down, what does KRO do ?

And again, if it's good enough, I'm willing to go higher

[pallid trout]

"KRO" describes the number of keys that can be pressed down at once.
For example, most gaming laptops have a 6KRO, which means up to 6 keys can be pressed down simultaneously.

However, that does not mean you can hold down 6 keys all the time. Only certain combinations.

[golden flax]

Generally they are the zqsd keys, right

Or wasd

I see

[pallid trout]

It depends. Can be different throughout all keyboards.

[golden flax]

Yeah

I want something that's ghosting proof

[pallid trout]

My GMMK Pro, however, has __N__KRO, which means I can press down every single key at once and it will register.

[golden flax]

Yeah, that's what I want, then

As in No KRO

[pallid trout]

I'm not sure if there are keyboards under €50 that have NKRO.

Research is required.

[golden flax]

At least now I know what I'm looking for

Thank you :)

[pallid trout]

Aight. No problem.
NKRO is one of the few aspects on a keyboard that's objectively better if it has it. But otherwise, it's almost always preferential.

[golden flax]

This one seems to fit the bill

https://www.amazon.fr/Rubidium-Mécanique-Rétro-Éclairage-Multicolore-Logiciel/dp/B07DJ97LNW/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=Clavier+nkro&qid=1624544194&sr=8-3

You should be able to use the google translate plugin

I'm a filthy baguette person

IT states that it has N-Key Roll Over technology

Granting full ghosting proof from all 105 keys

Is this brand generally trustworthy ?

[pallid trout]

Never heard of them, but it's best practice to try to research the keyboard itself.

[golden flax]

It's the cheapest I've found that has everything I want

and is on amazon

I can only order from there as my university residence doesn't allow us to mail packages there

I have an amazon locker 5 minutes away, which makes things much simpler

Oh, nevermind

Scrolled way down and found a logitech one

I'll try to do my own research to see if reputable keyboard offer this at a lower price

Thank you very much for your help !

[pallid trout]

Sounds good.

Happy to help. :)

[golden flax]

:D

He mentionned it afterwards

[pallid trout]

I was assuming there wouldn't be any NKRO keyboards at that price point but apparently there were.

[chrome raft]

arent gk61s nko

[pallid trout]

Doesn't say that they are so I don't know.

[rocky shell]

i don't wana make a custom keyboard

it's more expensive than just getting a geek or epomaker gk61

i found a gk61 but for some reason the guy has 2 different switches on it

black and red

why

[pallid trout]

You know how it is

It's all about

[rocky shell]

yeah but 2 different switches?

[pallid trout]

Yes.

Maybe he wants to type with tactiles for their feedback but game with a linear for their smoothness.

[rocky shell]

they are randomly scattered

[boreal rivet]

he likes to think he is a cool and quirky person

[rocky shell]

what i didn't understand is why didn't he keep the other switches

[pallid trout]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Man just wanted different switches lol

[rocky shell]

i think he bought new switches but only got like 30 on accident

[pallid trout]

Not sure if you can even get 30-packs.
You can get 10-packs though.

[worn storm]

That feeling when you order a new keeb and are like "Eh $^@%! it. Gateron Clears"

[pallid trout]

lmao

[rocky shell]

ah

[pallid trout]

I almost did that with the Kailh Polia. And then I saw the shipping.

[worn storm]

Hehe, finally got my GMMK order notification. Decided I didn't want to use anything out of my switch box since all the switches in there ended up in there because I took them off something >.<

[pallid trout]

I KNOWWW
I am not spending half of that price on shipping when I don't really need it :(

bruh

Yoooo they're hard undercutting the GMMK Pro damn.

I really hope it does well because they really need a hit right now.

Even comes in multiple colours. Really hope they add an e-white to them.

Oh wait they do have a white option. Kinda wanna see it now.

[wheat vigil]

I need some more recommendations for a TKL keyboard with linear switches. Anybody have any good ones that are aesthetically pleasing. Currently eyeing a Varmillo VA87M Sea Melody. I wanted to get the Akko World Tour Tokyo 87-Key TKL, but the shipping fee would've doubled the price of the keyboard

[ionic briar]

yea go varmilo
theres the fc750r too
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4247

[wheat vigil]

alright, think I'm just gonna go for the Varmilo Sea Melody, thanks for the recommendation tho

[blissful patio]

Is this room appropriate for mice too?

i wanted to recommend a product i recently got myself, as it fills a niche that i'd struggled to get at an affordable price for ages

i like using bluetooth, but i like having horizontal "tilt wheel" scrolling, and struggled to find a mouse offering that for years

finally found the M590, ordered 2 off aliexpress for about £20 each, and after tightening the wheel (1 screw, pair of pliers on a metal lever, 5 minute job) it's the best mouse i've ever had

[unkempt dome]

You put your money in the right places, don't worry about it

[unkempt dome]

Most of the time when it claims nkro it's usually something like 6 kro

[golden flax]

I know 😅 I just didn't expect to keep the keyboard for that long

[blissful patio]

is that a real subreddit

[ionic briar]

yep

[rigid sand]

What’s a good budget hotswap keyboard that doesnt make your wallet cry?

[wheat vigil]

I can only think of the GMMK, but that's a far cry from not making your wallet cry

[rigid sand]

$150

65 - 75%

Full keyboard

[wheat vigil]

Is 75% tkl? I actually don't know

Ahhh, ok

[rigid sand]

Yea that looks really good

[pallid trout]

Late August is the shipping time, just so you know.

[prisma basin]

my new membrane keyboard just came in and I love it

[chrome raft]

welp preference i guess

i might save up for the keychron

q1

[potent void]

I saw a video talking about how keychron isn’t the best option anymore

[chrome raft]

or just might get new switches for my shadow

[potent void]

I’m gonna order new switches for my k2

[chrome raft]

what tactiles u reccomend

[potent void]

And then eventually make a custom board

[chrome raft]

i wanna feel some decent tactiles

[potent void]

Holy Pandas are popular, they might be good. There’s also the budget Akko CS Blues

[chrome raft]

i dont like blues

are holy pandas quiet

i want quiet tactile

not brown

[potent void]

It’s a tactile so probably not

@hasty saffron hey do you know of any quiet tactiles?

[chrome raft]

might get my mom a leopold with browns

shes used to a dell membrane

[potent void]

Browns aren’t that tactile, they feel like linears with an every so slight bump

[chrome raft]

whats a quiet bugger bump

*bigger

[potent void]

If you told me they were linears though I would believe you

Hm

I can’t think of anything

[chrome raft]

quietish

not loud or not quiet

t1?

or boba u4

aliaz 70g

might just save my moneys and not buy her a keeb

[potent void]

Uh, there’s the silent box browns which apparently are a bit scratchy but are quiet

Boba makes a silent switch too

[chrome raft]

yea im just gonna let her have a dell keeb

heheheeheh

[potent void]

Rubbishy probably knows something so wait for them

[chrome raft]

im just not gonna buy my mom a keeb

she will probz hate it anyways

but i would like some tactile switches

[unkempt dome]

Kailh silent box brown, aliaz silent, bobba u4, zilent, probably gateron silent brown ?

[chrome raft]

for me tho

for my rk61 or smth

gk 61 mabye

i might try those

or jusst get gud with my reds

[unkempt dome]

https://www.theremingoat.com/blog/boba-u4-switch-review

[worn storm]

interesting keeb

kind of wish steel plate would make a comeback, seems like you almost never see it offered anymore

yea, makes for a super rigid typing experience on most switches, makes the "mushy" silent switches feel a lot better tho

I find ALU much to flexy for those personally, never tried brass in a case that was rigid enough

Still daily driving an old first gen filco majestouch with a new microcontroller swapped in, despite owning like 9 keebs from various GBs

Was a group buy for the controller & PCB to do the mod on geekhack almost a decade ago >.<

Tempted to do my own design at somepoint, have access to most of the tools needed. Being lazy AF has its downsides

links? google fails on super generic keeb names >.<

found it

ah, zfrontier, yep

Hmm, actually kinda like that board. fullsize enough but not fullsize

Lol, pretty obvious what word did that

[ionic briar]

ah
the 1800 layout

[worn storm]

Tempted to do a 70% if i do make something from scratch, no arrows and no nav

[worn storm]

seems like there are a few takes on 70%

[keen hedge]

Oh look all the glass man server people are here

[potent void]

That’s what mine is

I like it, so I’ll stick with it for now

[chrome raft]

Is this good for a 100?

[potent void]

Ah the invisi 45

[potent void]

Oh a Logitech. Uh they’re not great

[chrome raft]

But for 99 because the others are 200

[potent void]

Nah I wouldn’t recommend it

[chrome raft]

I need one like this xD
With media keys been asking here but never got an answer

[potent void]

Well it might be okay. I just personally don’t like how they feel

[chrome raft]

This one feels good

But at 200

[potent void]

Is that Logitech one the cheapest you can get?

[chrome raft]

Yeah unless I want to get some corsair fans

[chrome raft]

I bought the keyboard

If I don't like it I'll just return it

[potent void]

alright, hopefully you like it

im about to buy akko matcha green switches. these are good for the price right?

and also what lube should i get for my stabs and switches?

[ionic briar]

205g0
thick enough for stab but thin enough for linear

[potent void]

Got it thanks

[ionic briar]

you know where to buy it from?

[potent void]

Amazon?

[ionic briar]

maybe
where are you from?

[potent void]

US

[ionic briar]

then yea amazon is like the last place to buy lube
especially in small quantities for lubing switches

one sec

[potent void]

Oh

[ionic briar]

https://keyboardlube.com/
https://divinikey.com/collections/lubricant
https://dangkeebs.com/collections/lubricant
https://digital-carpentry.com/collections/keeb-supplies
https://415keys.com/collections/lubricants
https://3dkeebs.com/collections/lube
just a few

[potent void]

Oh wow

Thanks I’ll have a look

[polar granite]

my logitech g910 orion spectrum is having some register issues
when i press aa akey once it either registers multiple times or doesnt register at all
i cant ask my brother when he brought it, i would need a shovel for that

[ionic briar]

sounds like either bad contact on the switch or the solder joint on that particular switch failed

[polar granite]

a majority of the keys are like this so its most likely the first one, which makes a whole lot more sense because i dont have a keyswitch removal tool so im not able to clean out any dust

[ionic briar]

but the romer g themselves has an extra contact leave just in case one of em fail

im thinking the usb control on the board has issue?

[polar granite]

again idk when my brother bought this but ik its well over a few years old and this has only happened recently

[fiery bane]

literally 415keys... actually it's 500

[potent void]

okay ill order from keyboardlube. they're the cheapest for a 3ml. ill get 105 from divinkey some other time when i decide i need it

[chrome raft]

Hey, what are some good silent switches? I’m gonna get the gk64x.

[elder stone]

few questions

• linear or tactile?
• silent as in with rubber on the stem or just not extremely loud?
• I hope you mean the gk64x mechanical, not optical in this case?

@chrome raft ^

[chrome raft]

Tbh, I have no idea, I just don’t want the switches to be loud. And it should be mechanical yeah.

The ones with the rubber are prob more expensive too?

[elder stone]

yep, it's the mechanical

and yes, it is

cheapest are around 50c/switch, give or take

but it can already help to just go for heavier switches to some, because they type heavy (I'm one of them)

decent linears start at around 20c, tactile can be a bit more expensive considering most of the low end is or is similar to brown switches, which have rather little feedback for a tactile switch

and clicky is obviously out of the question here

[chrome raft]

Yeah, 50c a switch is okay for me

I just want something, that’s good and silent

[elder stone]

Aliaz 60g/70g/80g/100g
Durock Daybreak/Dolphin
Gateron Ink silent black/Silent black/Silent brown/Silent red/Silent clear
JWK Silent alpaca
Kailh Box Silent Pink/Silent Brown
Keebwerk Tacit
Zealpc Healios/Rosélios/Zilents/Sakurios

that's pretty much the options you have in silent switches

[chrome raft]

Alright, what are some of your favourites?

What would you choose?

[elder stone]

to be completely honest, I don't like silent switches myself as I can clearly feel the rubber-y bottom out

[unkempt dome]

Yes totally ...

[elder stone]

but I can say good things about all 3 of the manufacturers involved here

[chrome raft]

mmh

Or acutally I don't know.

[elder stone]

which are Durock/JWK, Kailh and Gateron

[unkempt dome]

Kailh silent box brown have a really nice tactility, kinda silent, bit mushy, slightly scratchy

[elder stone]

it's only that it's still a brown

so the tactile force is a bit more than say a Cherry brown, but it's still not a whole lot

which some people like, but still

[chrome raft]

I don't really want the switch to feel werid, so I guess i'll buy something different.

I just don't want it to be as loud as idk, kailh speed golds.

[unkempt dome]

Well those are 60g

I don't know if it's considered that light

[chrome raft]

I said I didn't want golds

[unkempt dome]

I said nothing about gold

[chrome raft]

oh

Are glorious pandas good?

[unkempt dome]

Some say it's godly

Some say it's just meh

[elder stone]

haven't tried them myself yet

and gold is an extreme example, obviously

but most linear and tactile switches are relatively silent, just not as silent as a silent switch

so it's a compromise you make at one of two points

[unkempt dome]

I got some halo true used and they were lube by the old owner ...

They are not that loud when lubed ... well compared to the other switches I tried ... also it's the first lubed switches I have

[chrome raft]

Gateron milky yellows sound pretty good too.

[pallid trout]

The only way to truly know is to try them out yourself.

Or to find a force graph and extrapolate from there lol

[chrome raft]

I think i'll just go for the gateron milky switches

[unkempt dome]

What makes the kiwis special ?

[elder stone]

they're limited run, but not that special in what they actually are

considering most JWK/Durock switches will feel similar

and milky yellows are decent, so is most of Gateron's budget side

it's just between red, yellow and black as far as weight goes with linears

[violet gale]

Which rk boards do you guys recommend for TKL, Good RGB and Hoswappable

[bitter flicker]

can anyone suggest a good keyboard for me?

[chrome raft]

What size @bitter flicker

[bitter flicker]

tkl or 60%

[chrome raft]

Id get a kemove shadow

With gateron mech switches

@bitter flicker

[bitter flicker]

ok

thx

[chrome raft]

Np

Have fun with ur keeb

I love mine

[bitter flicker]

i will

[chrome raft]

Really good sounding

Probz better with lube

I need to lube mine

[pallid trout]

Do you have a budget?

[chrome raft]

I already set him up with a good one @pallid trout

[pallid trout]

Nothing wrong with options.

[chrome raft]

Tru

I could have suggested the akko wt

[bitter flicker]

max 150 60% or tkl

[pallid trout]

Ooooohhh.
Keychron is coming out with a Q1, a 75%, if you don't mind.

Otherwise, there's a bunch of options from Varmilo, Royal Kludge, etc., as well as the GMMK, if you want something now.

[bitter flicker]

ok thx for ur help

i will have a look at them

[potent void]

Speaking of which is the GMMK Pro worth getting? I like the look and it seems like a good starter

What’s that supposed to be like?

Oh, a Keychron-ified GMMK

[potent void]

o

wow thats cheaper than the gmmk

nice !

i like the gmmk layout so ill consider the Q1 if its good

[burnt sable]

I never got the point of TKL. I use the numpad all the time, it's a lifesaver when entering numbers

[pallid trout]

More compact, and people might want that aesthetic.

[pallid trout]

When it launches, yeah. But again, I'd wait to see what the Q1 turns into.

[potent void]

so thats 2 for 2 on the Q1

the name is even similar lol. QMK

[pallid trout]

Q1 pre-orders start July.

IIRC it starts shipping late-August.

GMMK Pro is already a really good value barebones.
Q1 is positioned to overtake that.

[potent void]

if its good ill consider it. it seems like a nice board to have

could even transfer my parts from my current k2 into it

[pallid trout]

It's a 75%

[potent void]

they're both 75%

assuming the gmmk is the same layout

heres the k2

its missing a few keys but they're the same otherwise

i see this keycap set is ready for windows 11

[faint viper]

Can I ask for recommendations here for keyboards or is that frowned upon?

[faint viper]

I could just be a bad typist, I don't have an office job so I don't spend that much time typing.
I bought a logitech G910 a year or so ago and the experience has been horrible.
My key strokes either don't register or they register to many times, so I spend more time fixing typos than typing usually.
Because I don't know if the problem is me or the Romer G switches, I'm unsure if I should look for a keyboard with linear or tactile switches?

I'm looking for something quiet/silent

full size not 10 keyless

budget is basically whatever suits my needs

[potent void]

you can get a keychron c1 for like $50 and swap the switches with boba u4 silent.

[potent void]

u sure?

lol

lol its fine

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard

hot swap is $54

wait its sold out

oh nvm

jeez thats like a dollar a switch

[faint viper]

so this?

prices are in AUD

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/leopold-fc900r-pd-blackred-two-tone-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-silent-red-ac17849

other wise this is the cheapest i can find the Keychron

https://www.u-buy.com.au/product/1AEN6JHWU-keychron-c2-full-size-hot-swappable-wired-mechanical-keyboard-compatible-with-mac-keychron-blue-switch-104-keys-double-shot-abs-keycaps-gaming

[potent void]

that looks like it i think

[faint viper]

Ok ill go the leopold, if I don't like it I can always get the Keychron hotswap with those other switches.

cheers

[unkempt dome]

leopold have a really high build quality from what I've heard ...

[potent void]

sounds good

[ionic briar]

where is that?

[potent void]

https://j-bearkeyboards.com/products/gazzew-boba-u4-silent-tactile-switch-62g-68g

assuming thats overpriced

[ionic briar]

yea
one sec
https://mkultra.click/gazzew-boba-silent-tactile-u4-switches

20 for 30

@potent void

https://www.gazzew.com/

you can just dm gazzew for bulk ordering iirc

[potent void]

okay thats better pricing

[unkempt dome]

so I got the durgod fusion out of it's box again ... trying to get to like the cherry brown ...

again

[potent void]

wait i thought this was $200

oh

thats why you read the fine print

you pay $100 to reserve it and pay the rest later

[molten pawn]

Yeah

Owned

[potent void]

not me

[molten pawn]

Destroyed

[potent void]

i dont own it

[molten pawn]

Decimated

[violet gale]

Can someone suggest a TKL Keyboard, Hotswappable, with good RGB, doesn't need to have keycaps

[ionic briar]

budget?
where are you from?

[violet gale]

SEA and around $100 to $120 at max

[ionic briar]

jx87

[main pumice]

https://www.amazon.ca/HyperX-Alloy-Origins-Core-Customization/dp/B08YP9VMSN/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_dWGBhDAARIsAMcYuJxKecXqVcyfoZLU0VEIcfRwCsEl0KMcTIBgCmIG7yLnKQtLbMOmQfwaAsGHEALw_wcB&hvadid=380242215243&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000812&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=1152486930728079205&hvtargid=kwd-844742609476&hydadcr=26058_9772442&keywords=hyperx+alloy+origins+core&qid=1624681062&sr=8-2 is good or no

[violet gale]

Sadly this is not avialble for country

[ionic briar]

one of the better gaming board
what about the fc750r pd from leopolds

[violet gale]

Yup the leopolds are available

[ionic briar]

its a prebuilt tho
rakk lam ang pro?

at least it has hot swap sockets

do have to note one of the best prebuilt
the leopold board

[violet gale]

Oh damn, that we don't have it here as well

How's the RGB on the leopold

[ionic briar]

none

varmilo double rainbow if you need rgb

[violet gale]

Yup I need RGB Haha

Any other options for good RGB, cuz I got pudding keycaps already

[ionic briar]

varmilo double rainbow

[violet gale]

Are these under leopold as well?

[ionic briar]

no
varmilo is a different brand

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4275

[violet gale]

Damn those boards are rly expensive at my country

And we dont' have the double rainbow variant as well

What about royal klutch

[ionic briar]

Its fine for its price
Tho outemu basics do have a rep of dying

[violet gale]

As for the royal klutch or varmilo

[tall karma]

outemu is royal kludge, varmilo uses cherry or kalih switches iirc