peripherals

[strong ermine]

unless the middle one counts as a pin

idk

[young spoke]

3 pin

id skip them honestly

[balmy vale]

well yeah obviously

[young spoke]

those compared to an actually alright keychron board is literally night and day difference

also any reason why clicky?

[balmy vale]

I can't stand linear, I like the click

I grew up typing on buckle springs

[young spoke]

my personal experience with clickies have been either completely worthless shit tier switches or $2 per switch 4/10 switches

[young spoke]

id try tactiles

also a lot more available

[balmy vale]

I wish I could try before I buy

I actually found a place that sells Keychron V6, with Gateron Jupiter Red and Brown as options

with nordic layout

[young spoke]

oh nice

id highly recommend that

[balmy vale]

expensive but maybe worth, I'd have to save up, fuckin disability check has barely risen with the cost of living increase

[young spoke]

even not including your specific requirements its a great keyboard for the price anyway

[strong ermine]

what's the easiest way to clean a switch like under the thing that presses in

[balmy vale]

so gateron jupiter brown would be tactile, I imagine

price I found it for is the equivalent of $129 US

[young spoke]

in like 3 years of owning and using keyboards ive never needed to clean the internals of a switch before so i have no clue

[balmy vale]

I thought I'd have to go closer to 180-200 for a hotswap keyboard

[young spoke]

unless your talking about the pcb/plate where you should just take the switches out and use a small brush or dry cloth

[young spoke]

thats actually really good considering its local

[strong ermine]

ye the swtich thats broken either doesnt work or just holds the button bruh

[young spoke]

that switch is cooked

[strong ermine]

ig i gotta order 1

[balmy vale]

oh huh it's wireless, I didn't realize

[strong ermine]

i dont use f12

so ill just sacrifice that key for a day

oops

[glad sequoia]

the new TMR keyboards seems awesome and ~$150, just waiting to have my layout and 100% or close

[balmy vale]

With my MasterKeys with soldered keyswitches, the only thing that has helped for me if a key is getting stuck from soda or something spilling, is isopropyl alcohol

but that will dry the switch out after leading it to feel crappy

[strong ermine]

damn

[young spoke]

im still waiting for the hhkb HE board

[glad sequoia]

and hot-swappable magnetic + mechanical

[young spoke]

i dont have any stabilisers yet lmao

[worldly garden]

you do

u have 3 keyboards minimum

use it from one of them

[young spoke]

so im currently using a 1.5u control key as my spacebar

[young spoke]

they ALL use plate mounts

all 6 of my other boards are plate mount stabs

and none of them have a 7u

[worldly garden]

lol

atleast u knows to use 7u

good

where is ur stabs

[glad sequoia]

Womier SK75 TMR keyboard
Rock-Solid Performance with Advanced TMR Tech
Mag-Mech Hybrid Hot-swap
Full 8000Hz in Both Wired and Wireless
Long-Lasting 8000mAh Battery
Tri-Mode Connectivity
Hot-Swap: Cross-compatible with both magnetic and mechanical switches (can mix & match)
150€

[balmy vale]

Thank you for the help @young spoke, I will wishlist the V6 Max and hope it's still available by the time I can afford it

wireless keyboard will also be a big change but I assume it won't be too big of a change

[young spoke]

ehhh

you can still use it plugged in if needed anyway

[void geyser]

Do you want a clicky switch?

[balmy vale]

yeah I'm used to MX Blues and I grew up on buckle spring

[void geyser]

I suggest gateron melodics

They're nice and close to buckling springs imo

[glad sequoia]

how can someone want a clicky switches, i use mx cherry reds and they are way too noisy for me 😄

[young spoke]

i just have a usb c cable at my desk at all times, for my wireless keyboards i keep the dongle in the board itself until i need it

[void geyser]

please don't buy that piece of shit board or any keychron really

overpriced for what it is

https://amzn.to/4jA0Zo9

[balmy vale]

Looks good but the only place I can find that sells it without import is selling that for a dollar per switch, I also don't own a modular keyboard yet

I'd rather not have to import

there's VAT and import fees

[glad sequoia]

@balmy vale take a look at Womier SK75 TMR keyboard, seems awessome

https://womierkeyboard.com/products/womier-sk75-tmr-magnetic-keyboard

[balmy vale]

That's not a 100% keyboard

[young spoke]

ive used the v6 before (ansi but close enough) and its a perfectly fine keyboard for the price and the specific requirements

[balmy vale]

I'd at least definitely want numpad

[young spoke]

and the galaxy100 isnt even 100%

[void geyser]

where do you live / country @balmy vale

[balmy vale]

Please see my first post

[glad sequoia]

yea, sad, thats exacly the reason i dont buy it too, not 100% keyboard, i use all keys

[balmy vale]

Norway

[void geyser]

https://coffeekeys.eu/en/products/nd104-eng

[balmy vale]

also the Womier is incredibly expensive

[young spoke]

6 keyboards and not once have i ever missed the numpad tbf

[void geyser]

should be the same price and would actually put you in enthusiast tier

[balmy vale]

I use numpad every single day

[void geyser]

should work out to about 150 euro

[balmy vale]

that's twice the price of the keychron

[void geyser]

where did you see the v6 max for 70 GBP

[glad sequoia]

i use the corsair k70 red keys, is awesome

[young spoke]

its like $120 more

[balmy vale]

https://www.komplett.no/product/1311718/gaming/gaming-utstyr/gamingtastatur/keychron-v6-max-gateron-jupiter-brown-traadloest-gamingtastatur

[void geyser]

it's out of stock

well, if you can find it cheap then go for it

[young spoke]

£95 to £174

[balmy vale]

I can barely afford food some months, if I had $200 to spare on a keyboard I wouldn't mind

even the $129 keychron I'd have to save up for

[void geyser]

me when I lie

[young spoke]

me when

[void geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[balmy vale]

my current keyboard was $70 and I've had it since October 2017

[void geyser]

what's wrong with it

[glad sequoia]

good question, if he is so desperate for money, why a new keyboard 🤨

[balmy vale]

it's soldered switches and a bunch of them have been damaged over time

[void geyser]

i mean, I like spending money on keyboards

it sparks joy

[balmy vale]

spacebar and like 5 bottom row keys are sticky and scratchy

[void geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/marie-kondo-happy-smile-netflix-wow-gif-26883539

me justifying 500$ keyboard

[void geyser]

replace them

[balmy vale]

wut

[worldly garden]

waste of money

[glad sequoia]

what keyboard u own?

[balmy vale]

so, buy a soldering iron, learn to solder, buy replacement switches, etc

[void geyser]

you can replace switches

[void geyser]

oh you don't already have them?

[balmy vale]

It's a Cooler Master MasterKeys L
https://www.coolermaster.com/en-global/products/masterkeys-l-with-superior-pbt-keycaps/

[balmy vale]

no, I've never soldered in my life

[void geyser]

looked for used keyboards then

[worldly garden]

which layout

[void geyser]

I don't think buying a keyboard at that price is a good idea as you've mentioned that it would literally cause you to not eat

[balmy vale]

Nordic ISO layout

[young spoke]

he has like 50

[void geyser]

100% boards goes for cheap on ebay all the time

[worldly garden]

whats up eva

[void geyser]

what colour is your 75%

[glad sequoia]

really? there are so many good reviews about it

[void geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-tate-top-g-cigar-smoking-andrew-tate-cigar-gif-26262606

[balmy vale]

oh you weren't asking me

[void geyser]

yo yo yo lee

[worldly garden]

give me 30 quid i will leave a good reveiw too

[void geyser]

I'm enjoying the shit out of foamy boards

[worldly garden]

u rite i should buy 1

[void geyser]

take a break from cherry

[void geyser]

or get a free m1w

could be the move

[glad sequoia]

lol

[worldly garden]

wont be surprised if u cop a cyberboard at this point

[balmy vale]

also I'm not a "he", assuming you're talking about me

[void geyser]

Nah i'll wait for the value to absolutely tank on them

last one I saw was for 350 GBP

I just bought an Arc60

[young spoke]

cheap

[worldly garden]

they introduced, SECURED BY BLOCKCHAIN

some more overpriced features

[worldly garden]

my friend got one too

[void geyser]

Angrymeme tactics

[worldly garden]

for under 150 bucks

[void geyser]

I'll dm you how much I got it for

[worldly garden]

should be a steal

[void geyser]

you know it baby, I never buy anything unless it's a steal

did vaux get his agar yet

[young spoke]

yes

barely typing on it now

i just found these keycaps from like 2 years ago

[void geyser]

I'm going to throw up

[young spoke]

its that or not having keycaps

[glad sequoia]

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Programmable-Backlighting-Bluetooth-Rechargeable/dp/B0BKW3LB2B?th=1
what about this one?

[void geyser]

you forgot to buy stabs didn't you

[glad sequoia]

sorry about that, no way to know that lol

[worldly garden]

is that fucking leopold caps

[young spoke]

idk

box is unmarked

[worldly garden]

to the bin now

[void geyser]

LOOKS LIKE IT

[void geyser]

HAHAHHAHAHA

this guy didn't buy stabs

point and laugh

[young spoke]

they come on the 15th

[worldly garden]

watching vauxhall buys tx ap in 2026

what stab ?

[young spoke]

durock v3s

[void geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-carson-ken-carson-money-spread-ken-carson-money-spread-gif-more-chaos-ken-carson-ken-carson-money-spread-video-gif-2668307269813296359

[young spoke]

why do you have 7 sets of spare stabs

[void geyser]

gee i wonder

[void geyser]

I hope this is an f260

[void geyser]

I do wonder how the fuck do people still buy TX

[young spoke]

why???

[void geyser]

people saying that you need to break it in and gigalube it is legit copium considering the fucking things cost like 20 GBP a go

[glad sequoia]

anyone to spend 1200€ for 64 GB RAM?

[young spoke]

just in case or smth

[void geyser]

nah I just like having a collection of stabs

i just like looking at them

[young spoke]

serial killer behaviour

[glad rivet]

Oh fuck, stabilizers

[void geyser]

@worldly garden

twin

get one of these btw

[glad rivet]

No wait, they are supposed to come with my keyboard

[worldly garden]

whats up

one of what

[worldly garden]

???

the fuck is this

[void geyser]

I got a pair one for left and right

it's like that carpio

but like 10 times less

could basically get them for 1GBP each

[worldly garden]

ooo

interesting..

i might need that

[void geyser]

custom ones don't

[void geyser]

well excited for mine

[worldly garden]

awhat are they called

[glad rivet]

It says it should be included with the QK101 as a "freebie"

So hopefully it is

[void geyser]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009650182744.html?

don't know

but it's this

but I got a left and right pair

that one is only right I believe

[worldly garden]

is just for the mouse

?

[void geyser]

technically

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009184525222.html?

this one should have it

get a left and a right one

so both your hands have support

nice for typing

[void geyser]

that's good

[balmy vale]

about the same price here in Norway, I paid less for my 3080 FTW3 than those 64gig DDR5 sets

[void geyser]

qk101 nice keyboard

[glad rivet]

Way more than I had planned to spend though, but not many options for full size keyboards

[glad sequoia]

i remember to cry about pay 920€ for my 3080 OC back in the days right before covid boom, imagine waste 1200€ for 64 GB ram, this guys are insane now! cant call them 'crazy', that would be a complement....

[void geyser]

yeah there's really not

there's ND101, nice full size and complete board

[void geyser]

I paid 250 GBP for a 6800 back in 2023

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-mafia-mafia-money-gif-12714856527416165903

it's more expensive now

money moves

[balmy vale]

I paid 10158 NOK for my FTW3, equivalent of $1008 US today. Price shot way up in the 2 months between me paying and it getting shipped

september-november 2020

[glad rivet]

Indeed, but no ISO layout as far as I can tell

[balmy vale]

with how things are going I'm gonna be rocking this 3080 10gig another 3-5 years at least

[glad rivet]

I also can't stand the clickety clackety noises most keyboard enthusiasts seem to love

So custom seemed best

[glad sequoia]

Thats for sure! 3080 will last for another 10 years if needed! Imagine give money to those days greedy bastards! I really hope that AI bubble explode soon and they all loose that investment!

[void geyser]

I do hate how common that sound became

[worldly garden]

thanks to hmx

[void geyser]

but back in like 2020 / 2021 that was the sound to get

[worldly garden]

naw

[void geyser]

nah I don't think it's HMX that has done it

[worldly garden]

2020/2021 is thiocky meta

leaf spring

self cutted foam

holy panda

ktt kang whites

[void geyser]

OH GOD

it's like I just had PTSD

I had an rk61 with KTT kang whites

also with self cut foams

tape mod

blue tac mod, and also wrap mod

and the oring too

Goddamn

[worldly garden]

the mounting

or the other thing

[void geyser]

the mounting

I wasn't able to do burger mount

soldered Rk61 takesme back

they had that stupid fucking solder pads on them

they're basically had the strength of a wet noodle

[worldly garden]

kek

[eager sparrow]

Is there a way to get the USB ports on the back of the Xbox 360 HD DVD drive working on modern desktop OS's? The drive itself works, but the hub isn't

EDIT: Nevermind, got it working

[trail bobcat]

Is this keyboard good

[fervent breach]

it’s entirely based on personal preference but if you’re asking me for my opinion i’d say it’s overpriced and terrible

[flat dock]

Keychron V6?

if you're in the market for clicky switches my random recommendation is gateron melodic

There's also V6 max and K10 pro

[neat zephyr]

If you are looking for something that sounds and feels good, then yeah 8bitdo keyboards are just "okay", but I guess that if you really love the aesthetic you could go for it

they also have NES/FamiCom inspired keyboards

[bitter oar]

Looks cool to say at least

[daring shard]

I would rather get an irok mg75max or a melgeek reel67

[bitter oar]

Is max worth over pro?

[daring shard]

Imo yeah

[chrome raft]

no

[young spoke]

agar built (my actual keycaps are coming on the 20th)

[bitter oar]

what are the upgrades

[glad rivet]

After much pain a keyboard was built. Hope I never have to do that again

[bitter oar]

i don’t really see pro’s of the 75 max other than like waterproofing

[daring shard]

Minor ish build difference

And a little better switches I’m pretty sure

It just depends on the price

It was on sale for like $7 more then the pro a bit ago iirc so it was good value

But if it’s off sale now I would get the pro

[bitter oar]

which

[daring shard]

Wdym

[bitter oar]

what’s the build difference

[daring shard]

Nano coating

Won’t notice it in day to day use

Cuz it’s mostly just fancy word to mark up price

Also water resistant

I just like the water resistance cuz I spill stuff on my keyboards a lot and it was only like $7 more expensive a bit ago

[bitter oar]

so just the nano coating and different switches

idk if that’s worth $10

[daring shard]

Mostly personal preference tbh

I don’t think it’s worth $10 tbh

[bitter oar]

actually @void geyser it seems like paw3395se is something else than 3335, the farthest i got is that it’s a paw33xx 8pdip lower efficiency sku

could be 3311

and bunch other

maybe it’s a custom 33xx 8pdip and it ends there

[rocky steppe]

Hello guys! I have been working on a hardware-assisted entropy source to generate cryptographically strong passwords. This is my repo: https://github.com/flatmarstheory/Hardware-Based-Password-Generator (also attaching the research paper)

[jolly mirage]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/keychron-m-series-mice/products/keychron-m7-wireless-mouse

Thoughts?

[modest birch]

I'm kind of tired of having two keyboards on my desk. I have a GMMK connected to my desktop, but I have to unplug it to connect it to my laptop. I have a Magic Keyboard for a Mac. I know a KVM would theoretically solve this, but it still requires all sorts of adapters and crap for the Mac/MacBooks, and the risk of quality messing up through too many adapters (poor resolution, poor refresh rate) is leading me away from this direction.

I am interested in getting one of Keychron's wireless keyboards that can connect to 3 devices at a time, the same way that Logitech's keyboards and mice do, through a hybrid of bluetooth and 2.4ghz.

I was looking at the K10 HE, but I don't know what Keychron's proprietary switches feel like. How close are they to a brown, which is my preferred switch color? It also doesn't appear to have a backlight, which would make it hard to see in a dark room.

https://www.keychron.com/collections/100-layout-keyboards/products/keychron-k10-he-wireless-magnetic-switch-keyboard

[void geyser]

@worldly garden

[worldly garden]

i thought u post a home made goon toy

LOL

[mortal spruce]

but why tho

[void geyser]

When in vints

[uncut ingot]

i'm looking at building a new keyboard, and was thinking about getting milk yellow switches for the keyboard, anyone have recommendations for the barebones base? i was looking at the gmk 67pro

[worldly garden]

Budget?

[uncut ingot]

for the base around $50-60

[worldly garden]

Neo65

[wheat kelp]

Could I have some help deciding

What is better Alienware 34 Curved QD-OLED Gaming Monitor - AW3423DWF

Or Samsung 34-Inch Curved OLED Odyssey G8 LS34DG850SNXZA

I’m primarily using the monitor for media consumption — streaming, movies, and 4K Blu-ray rips. I also game occasionally, but that’s secondary.

[flat dock]

there are basically 0 tactile HE switches, so they wouldn't really be close either. I wouldn't recommend getting HE really

Maybe the V6 or V6 max?

[hallow sable]

what do i get

[void geyser]

can u find me a 50$ neo pls

in black, so that I can meme on that guy who always get stupid neo boards

[void geyser]

@worldly garden

built this today as well

[plain forge]

is the G502 hero good?

[jolly mirage]

I have it, its pretty good for my use case scenario and I like it. Personally my only regret about it is that it is wired. Anyways Mr Tech Tips has a video on G502 HERO for more details if you are interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iek-UH9ZWUw

(also its a bit heavier of a mouse that's a heads up)

[worldly garden]

https://www.1stplayer.com/productdetails/id/311.html

happy

[plain forge]

thanks

[bitter oar]

shipping?

[jolly mirage]

There is a wired I think Keychron C2 Pro which is 60$

[jolly mirage]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-pro-qmk-via-wired-mechanical-keyboard

54.99

https://www.rtings.com/keyboard/reviews/keychron/c1-pro-c2-pro

I like this website so here's a review ^^

[flat dock]

pretty far from a neo

[jolly mirage]

probably

[void geyser]

k*ychron

[jolly mirage]

I’m using keyboard from keychron and i ordered another one

[dire lark]

sup guys i need help with keyboards

so i wanna get a keychron keyboard but idk which one is good and affordable at the same time

and then i was thinking to get gmmk pro barebones and do the rest myself

[trail bobcat]

Is this too good to be true

[queen garden]

holy moly

where is this

[trail bobcat]

Amazon

[queen garden]

that is insane wow

[trail bobcat]

@bitter oar

Your the keyboard guy

[bitter oar]

it’s still not very attractive

[trail bobcat]

So what is very attractive

This?

[bitter oar]

brands that decicate to custom peripherals so not for example logitech, razer, steelseries, corsair, etc…

[bitter oar]

AULA is cool but not at this price point

[trail bobcat]

Give me recommendations

My 10€ membrane is so ass

[queen garden]

thoughts on hyperx alloy origins?

[bitter oar]

i don’t give recommendations bc they may be outdated

i’m using like aula keyboards, monsgeek, irok

[trail bobcat]

Anything is a upgrade for me

I just want something that sounds good snd won’t break

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1419444612485087242/1420615816579121273/copy_6CE598C9-C071-4A72-83BC-5E3EA25814CD.gif

[queen garden]

goatis 🥹

[trail bobcat]

Gatis

[queen garden]

https://hyperx.com/products/hyperx-alloy-origins-core-mechanical-gaming-keyboard?variant=41077971288221

[trail bobcat]

This

[queen garden]

yup

fire

will never break solid metal

[trail bobcat]

@bitter oar

Is this true

[queen garden]

and switches have a good lifetime

[bitter oar]

it’s not good

[queen garden]

ok son

he has a 10 dollar membrane

[trail bobcat]

Cheddar you liar

Boiii

[queen garden]

its exactly what you asked for

[bitter oar]

there are better boards… especially at $60

[trail bobcat]

The big k said its not good

[queen garden]

i dont care about what the big k said yo 😭

[trail bobcat]

I do boi

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279948520044101724/1320494075836895292/bleedFLUXn5VK3xZqA80Pl.gif

Im just gonna buy the f75 i see it everywhere on tiktok

[bitter oar]

it can be gotten for €25-30 + shipping from china

[trail bobcat]

Eh i dont really care about that

Amazon is the way to go

[bitter oar]

at your budget though you can get keyboards with full aluminum case or even full aluminum /+ weight like brass or/and also hall effect

[queen garden]

master of keyboards ahh

[trail bobcat]

Yunzii

?

[bitter oar]

sure

[bitter oar]

also consider if you want qmk

[trail bobcat]

Qmk?

[bitter oar]

open source is nice

[bitter oar]

it’s a chip in some keyboards

and you can flash it or do whatever you want, custom software/firmware

[trail bobcat]

Ion want that

Or atleast i wont do it

[bitter oar]

this one is fine

[trail bobcat]

Okay

[bitter oar]

qmk ✅ quality materials ✅ hall effect ❌
qmk ✅ quality materials ❌ hall effect ✅
qmk ❌ quality materials ✅ hall effect ✅
it usually goes like this at budgets like $100

[trail bobcat]

Whats the diffrence between halleffect and normal

[bitter oar]

hall effects lets you set custom actuation and custom reset

[trail bobcat]

Eh ion think i need that

[bitter oar]

or functions based on how hard you press a key if the software supports it

[ancient compass]

raw meat man 🤢 raw meat gross

i would love to try raw pork in germany, like safe raw pork tho

[chrome raft]

Can anyone help me with selecting a monitor?

I cant decide because im not informed enough

[bitter oar]

yes

what’s the question

[chrome raft]

My question was already answered by someone else but i wanted to ask if i should go 500HZ Ips wich iv been play on since i started gaming or go to 240hz OLED

What u think i should so

[trail bobcat]

Go to a farmer

[trail bobcat]

If you already have the 500hz id stay with that but if you want an oled go for it

[chrome raft]

No i mean wich one to buy

I have neither

[bitter oar]

what resolution

[chrome raft]

Fuh u mean

[bitter oar]

the 500hz ips i don’t recommend

[chrome raft]

1080 p i guess

[bitter oar]

no

1440p or 4k i rec

[chrome raft]

the 500 hz is ips 500hz

[bitter oar]

500hz ips is overkill

[chrome raft]

Yeah but pc cant run 240 oled

[bitter oar]

you may benefit from better resolution

[chrome raft]

I only play competitively

[bitter oar]

higher res lets you see enemies better at distance

[chrome raft]

I play streched

[bitter oar]

1440p 240hz is less intensive than 1080p 500-540 usually

[chrome raft]

Im looking for competitive edge not preety collors

[bitter oar]

are you sure it’s worth it for you

like does your competitive play make money

[chrome raft]

It is

[bitter oar]

what’s your budget

[chrome raft]

500 euro

580 dollars

[chrome raft]

.

[bitter oar]

lg has like 1440p 480hz woled

for under 600

[chrome raft]

I cant rlly seem to find it online

This one?

[chrome raft]

.

[bitter oar]

Touch the image to zoom in
LG 27GX790A-B

[bitter oar]

price?

[chrome raft]

1k

[chrome raft]

This one is oled

750 dollars

[bitter oar]

too much

[bitter oar]

also too much but better

[chrome raft]

true

Also not sold in my country

[bitter oar]

any cheaper 1440p 480hz oled panels

[chrome raft]

And if i amnage to get one in my country its 800 euros

930 dollars

[bitter oar]

miniled could also be an option but oh well you said you didn’t care about color accuracy

[chrome raft]

I think still the best option whould be the 500 hz one

[chrome raft]

Yeah

[bitter oar]

lcd crystals are slower than leds btw

also watch for additional output latency of lcds, especially older models

[ancient compass]

i dont want to risk getting parasites

im happy cooking my food

haha anyways off topic

anyone got any general budget mice recommendations for under £100 and under £50.

[worldly garden]

Lighter

[bitter oar]

they tend to be scratchy

[ocean coral]

do yall know a good lightweight mouse thats similar to the razer viper v3 but youre not paying for the brand as much

[bitter oar]

🇨🇳 🇨🇳

[bitter oar]

just don’t buy mx reds

use only if you already own them

[ocean coral]

vorp?

[bitter oar]

ignore the color, good linears don’t tend to be labelled as just red nowadays

[neat zephyr]

^

I get that the simple old color scheme is simple to understand and most people dont want to do a ton of research on switches but yeah switches that are just [standard colour] tend to be meh

I personally love the Gateron milky pro yellow v3s, they are very cheap and they are amazing for its price (imo)

[worldly garden]

hmx

[void geyser]

all of them are kinda bad value wise

[neat zephyr]

I think they are one of the best brands that are still focused to the general consumer and not keyboard nerds

who else are you buying from? epomaker?

[worldly garden]

evo80

[neat zephyr]

yeah yeah and the rainy75 and whatever.

1. I was talking specifically about brands that also are more focused on the general consumer, not specific models
2. The guy mentioned a $50 barebones, an evo 80 is definitely out of budget

[worldly garden]

if u are a consumer stick to any slop aliexpress offer

their money their problem

[neat zephyr]

we got sherlock holmes here :clueless:

we are trying to help someone with the problem they re trying to solve by asking here 😭

[worldly garden]

told them a specific model which is good, and consumer favored

[neat zephyr]

and +$200

[worldly garden]

is like 100 used

150 new

[tame thistle]

I'm planning on switching out my keycaps on my RedDragon Kumara K552. I already swapped it for red switches from its existing blue switches

What brand is the best but also cheap for good-looking, but also good-sounding keycaps? The default keycaps sound very hollow, which isn't for me

Also, how to get rid of the rattle on the wider keys with the stabilizer bars?

[worldly garden]

Whats ur budget

[warped tinsel]

Might buy a new keychron

[worldly garden]

Shill

[warped tinsel]

That one with the wood accents on the sides looks nice

[warped tinsel]

?

[worldly garden]

Overpriced slop

K2 he ?

[tame thistle]

Sorry if this ain't in dollars (below 1000 Php. Further reduced to around 500 Php if I'm getting it from Marketplace)

[worldly garden]

Ghost judges, aifei, ndn

[tame thistle]

I also don't have the time to try and lube every individual switch because college

[worldly garden]

U can find them in lazada/shopee

[tame thistle]

Mm, I don't wanna Online shop atm

So it's either something brand new in a physical store or used from Marketplace

[warped tinsel]

Yeah

[worldly garden]

Or ditch the reddragon

And get this

[warped tinsel]

How is it over priced

Most he boards are expensive

[warped tinsel]

How is keychron slop they make good quality keyboards

[worldly garden]

U thought is good because is the best you have tried so far

[warped tinsel]

Bruh

[worldly garden]

Good

@tame thistle this one gopd

[tame thistle]

I wish I had that much money for keycaps 🙃

[worldly garden]

Brand new then where will u get it

[warped tinsel]

I've yet to see he boards that aren't in the same price range

[worldly garden]

I rec u save and get this one ngl

[warped tinsel]

He boards are expensive mate

[worldly garden]

Atleast better than red drago

[warped tinsel]

That's just how it is

[worldly garden]

I would rather drop a venom he pcb into a $20 alu gh60 case

Thanks

[tame thistle]

[tame thistle]

But like, any way to alleviate the noise from the keys with the stabilizers on them? I tried the blue-tac method but that doesn't seem to work for me

[worldly garden]

wtf is blue tac method

well

i know ways, but not worth to do it on those keyboards

[tame thistle]

Hm

[tranquil stirrup]

Hey I need suggestions for good Headphone keyboards and mouse I don’t necessarily have a budget but let’s say like 150 or 200 usd each

[void geyser]

it's fine, but it's kinda slop

they just pump out shit

• when you get another non keychron board for the same price, you'd see the difference

it's a step up above normal keyboards for sure

not bad, not good, just super accessible for most people

[warped tinsel]

Don't see he boards that much cheaper

[void geyser]

the decision is ultimately up to you at the end of the day

there's nothing inherently wrong with the board

[tame thistle]

My RedDragon vs my cousin's Aula 75

[void geyser]

@worldly garden

[flat dock]

Did this thing survive a gunshot

[void geyser]

survived a drill

[flat dock]

Why

[worldly garden]

Saw this since ages

Canada customs

[trail bobcat]

I got a yunzii al 68

[idle sinew]

Now that I know the Odyssey Ark goes down to $1300 on sale during the holidays, I'm HEAVILY considering it

As much as I like my OLED monitor, my current setup takes up a lot of space and I'd like to compartmentalize. Everything on one desk, with the Ark as my primary display for gaming and everything else.

With a good mount for the Ark and one for a sound bar underneath...

[scenic oak]

Does your keyboard say AH

[chrome raft]

old meme

[blissful nacelle]

I need mouse help, my old aorus m3 is dying after abt 6 years, so I need a new mouse, preferably wired, max budget prob at 70€

[idle sinew]

How picky are you about mouse weight?

Because that'll change my recommendations.

[grizzled arch]

Does anyone know this Keyboard brand ? https://electronicmaterialsoffice.com

do they know if its good quality? i love the asthetic alot

[blissful nacelle]

I dont really care aslong as its under 5 kilos, the m3 I had was about 100g or so

[idle sinew]

Logitech G403 for $50 US.

[blissful nacelle]

Thx, that looks pretty neat

[idle sinew]

And Logitech makes solid mice.

[blissful nacelle]

Ill prob end up buying that one, I like that it isnt a discoball like many others

[grim oyster]

Guys should I sell my keychron v1 max and buy like 150-180€ keyboard?

[native abyss]

is that corsair

[tame thistle]

I literally just said the brands

[trail kite]

anyone have anything to say about logitech new magnetic/haptic mouse?

[kindred walrus]

what should fill this space wirh chat

[daring shard]

Still ass

[trail kite]

wdym still? i thought it was the first mice of this kind

[daring shard]

Yes but I mean Logitech is still making pretty bad mice

[trail kite]

idk, using g903 now, seems pretty fine

i am not the (omg it is 51g instead of 50, i cannot use it) mice user
i like them big and heavy

[daring shard]

I’m not saying they’re bad they’re just bad compared to other ones for the same price

[native abyss]

can i get good 75% keyboard recommendations that are wired and wireless max budget of £130

[bitter oar]

they have fallen behind, china took over peripherals

competitiveness

[median vessel]

anybody knows stuff about keyboards?
my keyboard just suddenly started typing random letters when pressing different ones and i noticed a pattern:
Row 1: 2 W S X Alt
Row 2: 5 T G B Space
Row 3: 8 I K Alt Ctrl
Row 4: - { ' /

keys in row 1 trigger the button pressed + the button under it. so 2 also presses w, w also presses s etc.

keys in rows 2-3 trigger button from row 1 on the sams horizontal level so t also activates w, k activates s etc.

qwerty keyboard btw

[trail kite]

what was the change in the last 5-10 years in this space?

[trail kite]

the only diff i saw was weight
sensors - not sure, above 10-15k dpi - idk what is the difference there

[bitter oar]

yes

history likes to rhyme so, just like the british copied netherland’s homework, china did so with peripherals

[trail kite]

wdym yes? my question was - what changed

[bitter oar]

oh, mb

material wise, better materials used in casing, switches, dampening, keycaps, etc…

software-wise, web software, many chinese brands offrer kbs fitted with qmk compatible ics

and at times cheaper as well

the cost cut was the biggest leap imo

[daring shard]

Melgeek real67

[crisp patrol]

good sensors shite mice

[median vessel]

what are the best low profile keyboards under 200 bucks

[daring shard]

Yeah

[stiff wasp]

keychron K series or B if you need even more slimness

https://www.keychron.com/collections/low-profile-keyboard-collection

[median vessel]

thanks

[kindred walrus]

what keyboard would yall recommend, i like gravastar but people say its bad

like i mean i like the sound of gravastar

and i preferably want an he

i was also looking into the azoth but its overpriced imo

[trail kite]

allowing custom firmware - it feels from the realm of - building your own keyboard

[trail kite]

price yeah - g903, naga razer pro( or whatever is the latest name) aren't cheap
not sure how much of it is brand/profit and how much of it actual stuff like sensor/battery/etc

[bitter oar]

their profits aren’t that high because of advertising as well, they have more dedicated customer service such as for rmas

[glad rivet]

no personal experience, but Neo65 Sonic He+ looks nice

[bitter oar]

but yeah i would skip name brands such as logitech, steelseries, razer and corsair

@trail kite

[trail kite]

i mean thats what i used for my mice

it was like this
noname - razer mamba - razer naga for mmo - corsair ironclaw - logitech g903
now seeing as this is smth new (as was wooting keyboards) wanna try this out

[bitter oar]

the chinese copied wooting’s homework pretty well as well
i drive a vxe r1 pro rn and it’s goob

but probably outdated by now

[daring shard]

What’s your budget

[kindred walrus]

200 ish cad

[daring shard]

Melgeek real67

If that’s too expensive then irok mg75 pro or max

I don’t really think the max is worth the extra money but if it’s not that much more then it’s worth it

[kindred walrus]

i dont like the soundof rhat one much

too clicky if u know what i mean

i might just wait for a sale and get the gravastar v60 pro

its a little over budget but i love the design

[daring shard]

Then mg75 pro

Or mg75 max has different switches if you want to listen to that one

[kindred walrus]

thats not bad

[tame thistle]

Are these keycaps good for my RedDragon?

[worldly garden]

you get what ypu paid for

[tame thistle]

Around 400 pesos

[worldly garden]

go to shoppe

look up ghost judges keycaps

[tame thistle]

Eh... I'm not really looking to spend any more than 500 pesos for keycaps tbh

[worldly garden]

you get what you paid for

[tame thistle]

Yes, I'm aware

[tame thistle]

But I found the same keycaps online for 100 pesos more

[young spoke]

£20 for keycaps is not a lot

[worldly garden]

Oh so now you saying facts now

Did u gwt propwr keycap or still use that crappy set

[young spoke]

im using a black set of aifei v3s

[tame thistle]

I don't have a lot of money to shell out like a lot of us here, so please bear with me

I was always a cheapskate since I moved to the city for college

And call me a hypocrite for saying that whilst having a mechanical keyboard, mind you, I saved two weeks worth of my allowance just to get it 2nd hand on Marketplace as well

Sorry for ranting

[bitter oar]

high density pbt keycaps if you want durability

[bitter oar]

you get plastic either way, he just likes certain keycaps due to sound

pbt keycaps above $10 tend to hold up pretty well

abs plastic sounds different to pbt, not necessarily better

different.

also dying of pbt keycaps has been improved, the vibrancy gets almost to modern high end abs keycap level

[tame thistle]

Hmm. Okay

[tame thistle]

Is there also a cheap way to make my current keyboard THOCK? I'm planning on sound dampening foam, but idk

[flat dock]

thick pbt keycaps

that's gonna be probably the #1 way to change sound

[worldly garden]

Yes

Foam it

[worldly garden]

Crap u go buy gmk

[young spoke]

nah too expensive for plastic

[neat zephyr]

damn so based

[neat zephyr]

if its hotswap I would encourage you to look at just changing the switches. I am a fan of gateron milky yellow pros, they are not hard to find at less than $20 for 90 pieces... although those are more creamy than thocky. You go listen to sound tests

be careful to see if they are compatible tho, some keyboards only have 3 pin hotswap instead of 5 pin

[tame thistle]

I already did swap the switches from blue to red (Titan Otemu red switches)

Aside from the clatter from the keys with the stabilizer bar, it sounds nice

[neat zephyr]

The thing is theres only so much foam can do... Also, use thin foam, thick foam will also block the lower frequencies that produce the "thock"

[tame thistle]

Alright

But for now, I'm looking to get rid of the clattering from the stabilizer bars on some of the keys

[neat zephyr]

there are lots of mods for stabilizers. If you want to put some effort on that, you can just buy lube and lube them. Its like $3 for something that you can apply to all keys, stabs, and have some spare after

[neat zephyr]

Random paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844022028444

you can see how the thick foam (10cm) blocks more of the lower frequencies

and you dont want that if you want thock

[tame thistle]

Eh, I don't really have the time for lubing. Can you suggest other mods?

[neat zephyr]

lubing just the stabs is probably 5m, the switches are the real pain but there it will probably not improve the sound much, its mostly for feeling
Uhm, there is people that put tape in the inner part of the stab so the tolerances are better (less rattle) and the parts dont hit directly each other (less clack), but i havent done it myself

[tame thistle]

[graceful verge]

What do you guys think about the xm2

[neat zephyr]

the sony headphones?

[graceful verge]

No the mouse

Endgame gear xm2

[neat zephyr]

oh okay no idea then

One think to look out for is real latency. A recent Shortcircuit video showed a mouse (i dont remember which one exactly) that had a good sensor, 8k polling, but the firmware itself added a few ms of latency because of a bad anti-bounce "fix", so I guess look out for third parties doing real tests on it

[royal spruce]

Hey FELLAS how much do yall think i could sell a used Benq Mobiuz EX3210U for

I see it retailing for around $800 or higher and I bought it like 3 years ago for almost 1k

[tardy saddle]

About $480 USD, give or take, depending on your area. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/187706736755

[royal spruce]

Aight

Should be enough to put towards an oled

[fluid parrot]

ooo nooo kirashi fell into the listed not sold trap

nuuu the website i use for checking sold listings is down, meh have this

[tardy saddle]

Nah, I just linked to the first listing I found. Ultimately, things are only worth what someone is willing to pay.

[fluid parrot]

i do also wonder where he is as around my parts with the hefty taxes its like 550$

[tame thistle]

I indeed got what I paid for. I genuinely don't mind

[young spoke]

are those clickies?

[tame thistle]

Red switches

[worldly garden]

lol

[young spoke]

that is rough

[tame thistle]

What's wrong?

[young spoke]

reds in the big 26

[worldly garden]

I dont see anything wrong with it

Aifei in the big 26

Broke ass

[young spoke]

yeah

[flat dock]

aifei is new cheap shit

not weird to have it in 2026

[tame thistle]

What's that mean?

[worldly garden]

New ?

[tulip tartan]

what is a good mouse for mmo rpg

[young spoke]

reddragon m913

[void geyser]

@worldly garden qk65v2 he

[worldly garden]

Dude

Im about to buy one LMAO

[void geyser]

sorry not HE

but just the regular qk65v2

not classic or anything

I really hate iso

I wish it never existed

ISO users should be rounded up and reeducated

[worldly garden]

Split shift and is chef kiss

[void geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tata-mpo-gif-15942038246373310601

[worldly garden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1128339493020250112/1129453573646864495/youd-1.gif

[void geyser]

We ain't splitting shit here

i'm going to make it act like ISO

one way or another

[worldly garden]

My friend complains his qk65 he connection is meh

[void geyser]

Also first time using GMK stabs kinda nervous 🥺 👉 👈

[worldly garden]

Like if he moves the board it disconnects

[worldly garden]

Memes

Is like asking typeplus to make keycaps

[void geyser]

I love how it's pre rusted like cherry

[void geyser]

I mean have they ever made a good stab

because TP sounds ass

[worldly garden]

Still prefer cherry clip ins ngl

[void geyser]

Yeah I'm using clipins + Geon wires atm

[worldly garden]

Shit just work

Sometimes durock

[void geyser]

Cherry clipins that is

what's your opinion on TX?

I think they're the worst stabs I've used

like genuinely

[worldly garden]

Same

Their cloth good

[void geyser]

I have a monekei cloth

get flexed on

[worldly garden]

Sold my ori cloth lol

[void geyser]

real flex would be to have rama cloth

aura farming cloth

[worldly garden]

Mclaren cloth

Took out the trash and saw this

[void geyser]

WHy

it was in its natural environment

as with most razer stuff

you took it out of aq loving home

[worldly garden]

It feels like pick up 10 bucks on the ground

[void geyser]

what are they?

they look like razer blackshark

[jolly thicket]

2K / 4K Oled for gaming? I play both story and fps. 9800X3D And 5080

[void geyser]

2k

[gusty gorge]

any opinions on the Royal krude L75?

[daring shard]

Ass

RK sucks

[bitter oar]

only if it’s cheap like $20-30

remember you can buy dedicated macro pads off aliexpress for like $5

[lost trail]

Which is the better microphone choice for streaming games, the rode podmic or the elgato wave dx?

[worldly garden]

20 for a rk í overpay

[worldly garden]

https://imgur.com/a/royal-kludge-is-good-brand-you-should-buy-keyboards-x7LTFwp

[gusty gorge]

Welp, I think I'll find smrhg else. Ty for letting me know that it ass

[worldly garden]

you looking for a 75% board ?

whats ur budget

[gusty gorge]

Like 80 ish euro

But preferably less

[gusty gorge]

Ye

[worldly garden]

100 gets u a bridge 75 or rainy 75

[tame thistle]

Is it worse than RedDragon?

[worldly garden]

both are e waste

[tame thistle]

Mm, okay

[smoky valley]

i love that the title is straight sarcasm

[smoky valley]

redragon is marginally better than RK from what i’ve heard

i mean, my friend’s low profile redragon works still

or maybe it’s survivor bias and i haven’t seen the heaps of dead redragons yet

[worldly garden]

Just dont use them

[void geyser]

Rk is fine but theyre abit outdated these days

[bitter oar]

redragon is still not very good

[smoky valley]

keychron modding tiem

how thocky are the keygeek ryes

[bitter oar]

kekron meh

they just can’t catch up to cheaper metal keyboards with he or qmk

they genuinely used to be fine/good few years ago, nowadays their pricing is off

[smoky valley]

i do already own my 2 year old kikron 🤣

[bitter oar]

in that case that’s goob

[fiery silo]

what would everyone recommend for a wireless 75% mechanical keyboard for under $100

[night swan]

Save up a bit and get a Rainy 75

I think there wireless

[fiery silo]

apreciate the suggestion if anyone else has any from what i asked it be greatly apreciated

[gusty gorge]

I'm getting this as a bday present for my Friend, I can't go above that price.

[chrome raft]

lol

[night swan]

I mean under 100 isn’t a lot

It’s not really the price category where you ask for a suggestion

It’s more like buy whatever you find it’s in the budget that you like the look of

Perhaps check r/mechmarket

[night swan]

I don’t know what’s funny why buy something junkie when you could wait a little while and buy something that would last

[daring shard]

mg75 pro

Or melgeek real67 if it still had the $30 coupon or if you can go up to $115 ish

Wouldn’t suggest the rainy75

It’s good but mg75 pro or real67 are better

[worldly garden]

neo75cu

[gusty gorge]

Montech MKey PRO 75 Freedom Brown is this one better?

[young spoke]

isn’t that like $200 before switches and keycaps

[limpid violet]

any recs for solid mice that don't tend to break their LMB switches?

I had a
Razer Naga (Molten Core Edition, probably bought around 2011/2012),
Logitech G700,
Logitech G604 (since 2020)
And all of them eventually started registering single clicks twice or "released" randomly when trying to click and drag...

I'm a needy bugger and want at least 4 buttons on the left side of my mouse, so what are my options

actually, maybe i'd survive with one or two buttons in the upper left corner of the LMB to switch DPI modes and two on the side for "forwards" and "backwards"

i currently have two buttons assigned to volume controls but can probably part with them

got a Logitech MX Master 2S at work but i don't like the button placement on the side, neither do i need the scroll wheel or that weird gesture control gimmick

[limpid violet]

maybe i should check out an electronics store and get a hands-on them, eyeing the G502

[smoky valley]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4n3h1Jjj0bI?si=rg5KPZGRPDXLCZSm

question, does anyone know of this brand

[worldly garden]

100

[worldly garden]

Mchose g7

[worldly garden]

Yes, they make cheap stuff

[young spoke]

really? where

[worldly garden]

My friend bought it, in singapore

[smoky valley]

do they suck or nah

[daring shard]

No

[worldly garden]

You get what you paid for

It works

[smoky valley]

alright, do you know of the monka m3

[worldly garden]

Monka yes

Chinese

[smoky valley]

wdyt of the products

[worldly garden]

Decent for $20

[smoky valley]

wait 3395 for 20 bucks is only decent?

[worldly garden]

Thats standard these days

[smoky valley]

wb the rapoo vt3 ultra?

[worldly garden]

U looking for a spl form mouse ?

[smoky valley]

whats spl?

[worldly garden]

Logitech superlight

[smoky valley]

i mean i do use claw grip

[daring shard]

spl isn’t as good as people make it out to be. Mchose K7 ultra so much better

Better sensor, lighter, higher dpi, polling rate, ips, and acceleration

[void geyser]

@worldly garden

End game achieved

[worldly garden]

i thought u endgame with freya

[worldly garden]

palm grip,prefer ergo'd

mchose g7, basilisk's, mx master form

[smoky valley]

monka m3 is my preferred shape ngl

would get a MAD R but inventories of those have been dwindling

[smoky valley]

i’m looking at it in taobao and i’m like “damn yall got this much money to burn”

[worldly garden]

i would love an alu/magnesium mouse if i can

[smoky valley]

would you think the shape of a mouse is more important than the raw sensor specs?

[worldly garden]

depends

i prefer how comfortable my hand is

• im not palying competitive games

[smoky valley]

i was looking at the mchose l3 but well, it would’ve been too small

wait which one was it

gosh darn it

the mchose that looked like the pulsar

ah the l7

yeah the l7 was smaller than the monka i’m rocking now

[worldly garden]

i see

[daring shard]

Mchose k7 should be bigger

But it is like $90

[smoky valley]

i’m spending 50 max on a mouse ngl

like anything more is esports level

in fact

a 3395 is the max a casual should go for

not saying they’re not allowed to go higher tho

but palm comfort comes first

[worldly garden]

kensignton slim brade

[smoky valley]

what

[worldly garden]

the mouse

[smoky valley]

a trackball

[limpid violet]

what

[smoky valley]

it’s a logi clone that’s just plain better

specifically g305

[limpid violet]

i thought that was a typo

who the fuck comes up with those brand names

[jolly mirage]

Any recommendations for a 2.4G wireless mouses?

[smoky valley]

have a pick from mchose

pick what would suit your grip best

[smoky valley]

china

[limpid violet]

i don't think i can order that thing in germany

[smoky valley]

there’s always aliexpress

[limpid violet]

i don't want to wait 2 months for a bootleg mouse

[smoky valley]

it’s not bootleg if it’s better than the original

[limpid violet]

so let me in on that sensor secret

PAW <number higher = better>?

[smoky valley]

3395 is the new normal for the average gamer’s sensor

3950 is “for the pros” and isnt necessary

[limpid violet]

and PMW?

[smoky valley]

PAW and PMW stand for different meanings

a quick google search should give an answer

but if you’re too lazy, PAW=low power, PMW=high power

but that doesnt seem to matter nowadays as PAW can compete with PMW just fine

[limpid violet]

so a Naga V2 could also be an option

though i fear it might turn out smaller than i like my mice

[smoky valley]

razer..

overpriced imo

unless EU really hates CN products and decide to give it the highest taxes of the century

[limpid violet]

i suppose it's more of an issue with the price comparison site i use not having 100 different chinese brands in them

partly because the hundreds of DE/AT/CH online shops it gets it's product data from doesn't sell them

this is what i get when i filter for "at least 2 buttons on the left side", "unlockable scroll wheel" and PWA 3395 and PWA 3950

[tame thistle]

What I ordered: Wired mouse, silent click

What I got: Wireless mouse with the same features

I'm happy :D

[tame thistle]

I really don't see the point in spending anywhere over 30 dollars for a "gaming mouse"

But perhaps with actually useful features like a side scroll wheel, etc., I guess I can make an exception for that

[chrome raft]

lol

[jolly mirage]

This one? https://www.mchose.store/products/mchose-l7-series-ultra-lightweight-wireless-gaming-mouse?variant=50181718376743

[smoky valley]

that's good for claw grip with smaller hands

there's the g7 and other stuff as well

recommend you to check out aliexpress

[jolly mirage]

Their store?

[smoky valley]

sure

[jolly mirage]

I mean their store (I can see dozens of selers lol) or mouses on aliexpress in general? Aren't they a bit "sketchy"? I was told to avoid ali express as their recievers sometomes have malware

[smoky valley]

mchose isn’t one of those as far as i can tell

their mice seem really legit

[jolly mirage]

What are my chances of this being legit?

[worldly garden]

u got brainwashed by the internet

[worldly garden]

lol

[worldly garden]

lol

[limpid violet]

Th price looks legit. I went to an electronice store to get a feel for the mice and this one was there as well for the same price

Sadly they only had the demo unit of the Naga V2 left so I'll probably drive to a bigger city this Saturday

[void geyser]

i sit

I justlove keyboards man

Idk what to tell you

[umbral rampart]

Idk about 120000dpi but

[native abyss]

so i have a 9070xt i plan to play games like ark gta destiny what monitor should i get max budget of £200

[void geyser]

@worldly garden Apparently PM CTRL imploded recently and aus and NZ ppl hate the guy that runs it

causing shit like this to happen:

I swear this hobby is a simulation

[smoky valley]

that’s a regular g305

i did say mchose g7

you can find the g305 anywhere other than aliexpress i’m sure

[bitter oar]

5-10%

there are dozen g305 ripoffs

you’re better off buying chinese branded mices from aliexpress

or buy g305 at retail

[smoky valley]

anyone know the brand kinst?

apparently they make keyboards

[worldly garden]

Kezewa lol

[frank wharf]

I need a new mouse. I currently own a Glorious Model O Wireless, but it recently started double-clicking.

I’d like to spend at most €50, preferably around €30–€40. I don’t mind buying used (e.g., eBay) as long as it ships reliably and I don’t have to worry much about scams. The new mouse doesn't have to be wireless.

My main game is Minecraft. Funnily enough, in Minecraft you sometimes want your mouse to double-click (when butterfly clicking or “abusing”). To do this reliably, the switch needs to be able to register clicks with zero debounce time. While researching, I found many Reddit threads claiming that many mice cannot be set to zero debounce time, which makes the mouse unusable for me.

I want to be able to double-click, but only when I choose to - so the mouse must be controllable enough that it double-clicks when I want and doesn’t when I don’t. Does that make sense?

Because intentional double-clicking wears switches out faster than normal use in shooter games, I’m also looking for optical switches if possible. I read on Reddit that optical switches are less susceptible to breaking under heavy double-clicking.

Any recommendations?

[smoky valley]

VGN VXE R1 Pro may be a solid one, but I want you to check it out on your own.

It's a good place to start.

[worldly garden]

buy a used g102

those broken enough so they double clicks as a malfunction

razer really expects a 14 inch ultrabooks to use up all the 3080ti 16gb performances

[jolly mirage]

So smth like this?

[runic schooner]

Yall would I be better off getting the Razer Basilisk V3 Pro or Razer Basilisk V3 Pro 35k

[worldly garden]

i have the same one

vouch for their quality

[umbral rampart]

Prob be better off not getting Razer imo

wow apparently it has high charisma, never would've guessed

G502 Lightspeed is cheaper with a similar feature set. My biggest issue I have with Razer is their drivers so if you don't care about that then probably the regular pro unless you have used 35k DPI before and or think that will be useful to you

Not sure how much of their gen 3 switches is just marketing though

[tame thistle]

Really
Ass
Zero
Easy
Repairs

[bitter oar]

the G502 is ass imo, it’s only good if you prefer having a heavier mouse

and their proprietary software with meh privacy policy

you can also mod a lightweight mouse to make it heavier, same can’t be said about makin g502 lighter without destroying it

i would just buy one of the alternatives/almost rip offs from china

[frank wharf]

I dont want it double clicking on accident - thats the whole point xD

I have had that mouse before but it broke suddenly (I threw it against a wall - oopsies). The quality itself was pretty good though, especially for that price!

I want to be able to double click but it shouldn't just double click on its own xD

[flat dock]

you want it to double click when you physically double click it, right? I know what you mean

I did try to ask about this a while ago but I couldn't get any actual answers. Probably anything with customizable debounce or custom firmware would work though

put the debounce to like 1ms or something stupid

[frank wharf]

It depends on the switch/build of the mouse

also it being possible to set the debounce time to 0-4ms (at max) is REALLY important

with some mice it is just outright impossible because they are software locked

some mice arent but the switches cannot handle it

[flat dock]

i bet in addition to being more durable optical switches would have less (or maybe even no) bounciness

[frank wharf]

https://youtu.be/H4HCBWb1H-I?t=53

I sent a timestamp

optical switches are more durable

[flat dock]

yeah i get what you mean

[frank wharf]

mechanical switches break easier because of that kind of "switch abuse"

leading to unintentional doubleclicking

and thats just bad

[frank wharf]

exactly

but now the mouse has to actuially register the clicks

if it does that it is suitable for double clicking / butterfly clicking

[flat dock]

calling it mouse abuse is just cope imo

people have never seen industrial use of mechanical switches

[frank wharf]

idk it certainly isnt what they made the switch for

and it does shorten the mouses (?) lifespan in my experience

[flat dock]

I don't really think it does anything crazy different than a normal click from a mechanical perspective

I guess if it's the hitting the mouse slightly harder part

for real mouse abuse just watch geometry dash players

[frank wharf]

xD

https://youtu.be/g0rsdzWUYO4

also this CANNOT be good for the switch

which I also intend to do