peripherals

[fervent breach]

bro didnt even have an opinion

[worldly garden]

plus this is not even mine

[fervent breach]

This is activated carbon.

[worldly garden]

i just found out this will ragebait corsa so i posted it

[young spoke]

im going to encase you in charcoal

then light it

[fervent breach]

awesome

[worldly garden]

@young spoke lowkey

this spilt board is amazing

[fervent breach]

he means charcoal pro 1

[young spoke]

having a split spacebar board and not using the split spacebar is crazy

[worldly garden]

but u will bark " i wont afford that"

[worldly garden]

cry about it

[young spoke]

my split board is coming

[fervent breach]

i have never tried split spacebar

[worldly garden]

11/10 people i knew who owns this board isnt on spilt spacebar, you lost

[fervent breach]

is it worth my time

[young spoke]

get a hhkb studio

yes

[fervent breach]

fuck you

i am not getting a hhkb studio

[worldly garden]

yeah ok

u finaly bought that shitbox epomaker iirc

or agar ?

[young spoke]

yes

[fervent breach]

this is so ugly man

[worldly garden]

i wish ur pcb malfunctioned after 2 weeks of usage

[fervent breach]

if i were to buy a split spacebar hhkb mx

it’d be a 7spro or whatever they’re called

[worldly garden]

so u can come here and complain "should have gotten a better board"

[young spoke]

i might beg my wife to let me buy a keycult for £8k

[fervent breach]

livakivi got a 7spro

[worldly garden]

oh so ur wife

[fervent breach]

just get a realforce

[worldly garden]

is the reason of ur spendinghabits

sure

[young spoke]

no

[worldly garden]

glad im single

[young spoke]

i’m just rage baiting you

[fervent breach]

this is so funny to observe

[worldly garden]

in sigmakbd studios they dont ask that question

[young spoke]

and i use a £7.5k limited edition keycult every day

[worldly garden]

there is no keycult that expensive

[fervent breach]

i wonder if keycults actually will resell in like 20 years

[worldly garden]

0/10 ragebait

[young spoke]

i might sell some of my boards for an agar

[worldly garden]

is not eclusivity like otd

they will slowly losing its value

[worldly garden]

yes please do

[fervent breach]

Thank god i bought a pro 1

tbh i think pro 1s will either rise in value

or very slowly fall

as people care less and less

[young spoke]

wonder how much my wood board will sell for

[worldly garden]

dude

dead hobby

some of my friends is exiting

either go to topre or just down size inventory

[fervent breach]

i cant wait to be 70 and watch my grandson snap my hhkb pro 1

i would have to kill him

[worldly garden]

i can t wait to be 70 and my grand child said mx2a is vb

[fervent breach]

https://tenor.com/view/100-yard-stare-1000-yard-stare-stare-staring-staring-meme-gif-18404030142962634873

[young spoke]

i can’t wait to be 100 and type on ktt matchas for the last time

[fervent breach]

bro will live his entire life in keyboard poverty

[young spoke]

nah

ktt matchas peak switch

i’m going to solder them to my gk64

[fervent breach]

the humble electrocapacitive topre switch

[worldly garden]

i would rather use membrane for life time than cheaping out on my own hobby

is just patheic

[fervent breach]

it depends on the hobby

[worldly garden]

we are talking about keyboards

[fervent breach]

true

[worldly garden]

idk other hobbies tho

[fervent breach]

You don’t gotta ball out on a seneca or something doe

[worldly garden]

like watches

i would be done with a n"entry level" rolex or cartier

[fervent breach]

if i got into pens for whatever fucking reason im definitely cheaping out

[worldly garden]

yeah yeah

that kinda exotic polo races tuff

we are not 1%

[fervent breach]

if i ever get into pens lock me away

[worldly garden]

just get a generic 120$ parker

[fervent breach]

i do have an aliexpress apple pencil doe

[worldly garden]

my grandpa said i can inherit his cartier something something tho

that dude is literally clock and watch elitist

[fervent breach]

if anyone says they’re into watches they are rich

[worldly garden]

he is a doctor

[fervent breach]

even if they are lying they’re still rich

[worldly garden]

of course he is rich

im not

[fervent breach]

Well well well

i know ur not

no topre

[worldly garden]

yeah right

i cannot agree with you more

[fervent breach]

im infecting the ltt population slowly but surely

[worldly garden]

lowkey if im deep into thiss hobby

i wont even bother going to here

just to have some budget enthusiast yapping

you know who

[fervent breach]

i want to buy a php elephant artisan

[worldly garden]

yeah get them

did u check out my new artisan

won it from a GA

kekw

[acoustic dragon]

if i get a better monitor will i get better at fortnite

im using 60 hertz and im still not sure if its worth upgrading but im starting to think i should ngl

[zinc wave]

Probably not

Kids are stacking bodies on worse hardware

[atomic gale]

Nothing more than 200$ switch preference I like my keyboard to go clicky clack. And shine with colors. And full size.

[fluid parrot]

Why was it sent here first

[young spoke]

what does clicky clacky mean

your going to have to be more specific

[young spoke]

no

to get better at fortnite you have to get better at fortnite

[fervent breach]

i don’t think anyone sells those

[fervent breach]

How would i do that

[fervent breach]

it would probably help a tiny bit

if you’re really good anyway

if ur not 60hz is ok

[mystic rover]

Yo guys what a good budget gaming mouse and keyboard?

[young spoke]

what is the budget and what preferences do you have

you need to be a lot more specific

[mystic rover]

Ah my bad sorry

[mystic rover]

Non competitive games and college works budget like 60 dollars usd for both

[worldly garden]

https://www.velocifiretech.com/products/in-stock-balance-103-mechanical-keyboard

switch gonna be 20 for decent one

keycaps 20-30 works

dont ask that vauxhall dude, he will just rec u chinese slop

[young spoke]

yeah what preferences do you have both things

like what switches layout keycaps

what mouse you want like a mouse with a numpad for productivity or a more gaming focused mouse

[mystic rover]

Na a mouse with 2 side buttons will do the work

[mystic rover]

The cheapest 👍

[young spoke]

do you want the cheapest shit quality or the cheapest good quality

[worldly garden]

u should sthu already if u cant give him an actual product as advice

[young spoke]

he hasnt said what he wants

no mention of layout no mention of switches no mention of anything like wireless or hot swap

[worldly garden]

implying he doesnt know anything man

[mystic rover]

I literally have no idea about mechanical keyboards

[worldly garden]

see

[mystic rover]

I want good quality stuff

[worldly garden]

60$ wont get u to good quality yet

it just works

[mystic rover]

Am a student i cant afford much tbh

[young spoke]

oh

do you know what size you want atleast

id imagine 65% or 75%

[mystic rover]

75 compact to 65 compact works

I dont want the exploded one

[young spoke]

do you mind expanded?

theyd be a lot cheaper

[mystic rover]

Oh is it?

Alr then

I thought compact would be cheaper

[young spoke]

nah its less common

[mystic rover]

Oh

[young spoke]

i doubt youd need a top 10 gaming mouse so id go with a g203

its like $15-$20 gets the job done wired

id look aliexpress for this btw

[mystic rover]

Is low latency mouse gonna cost a lot?

[young spoke]

ehh

like $30

which id spend on the keyboard anyway

[mystic rover]

I do play valorant

[young spoke]

for the keyboard a gmk67 or cheaper with aifei v3s and a switch of your choice

thatd be like $40~

[young spoke]

g203 will suffice

id save up for whatever mchose is coming out with recently

[young spoke]

if you need help with switches just ask here

some basic gateron yellows would be good enough for a decently fast linear

[mystic rover]

I would have to buy it separately?

[young spoke]

yeah

gmk67 like $24 last i checked the keycaps are about $10 and switches you can easily find under $10

id look at a used marketplace though

[mystic rover]

Alr can i dm u if i have any questions?

[young spoke]

sure

[mystic rover]

Ty

[atomic gale]

A mechanical keyboard that doesn’t have quiet keys. Something more for gaming. I don’t know the different types of switches except green which most razors have.

[young spoke]

clicky switches?

[atomic gale]

What does the 20-30 mean? With the keycaps

[atomic gale]

Yes

[young spoke]

id recommend box jades ig

[young spoke]

id recommend aifei v3s

or npbt basics if you can afford it

https://cannonkeys.com/products/basics-by-nicepbt?_pos=1&_sid=ea15a3163&_ss=r

[hybrid spruce]

is t here any keyboards like MOUNTAIN Everest Max

[flat dock]

top 10 tautologies

number 3

[zinc lion]

Does anyone know if Redragon makes a keyboard identical to the K724 Pro but wired instead of wireless

I cannot find one

[young spoke]

no

why don’t you want it wireless though

[zinc lion]

Because itll never leave my desk, and the charging port is on the left side of the board vs top

[young spoke]

i’d advise against it then

[zinc lion]

Its just on sale for so cheap with the lcd screen, I wasn’t going to get it with the screen but rn its cheaper than the wired version without the lcd

[young spoke]

think mechboards sells a kit for a 75% for like £70 all parts included except switches and keycaps

[young spoke]

fair

the screen is pretty useless imo

i rarely use my ak820 screen

[zinc lion]

I agree but for $51 usd? Vs $70 for wired without the screen?

I mean theyre both cheap dont get me wrong

[young spoke]

fair enough

[zinc lion]

But saving $20 and getting the lcd

[young spoke]

you could probably find a different 75 without a screen for cheaper

[zinc lion]

Its just the charging port that makes it a difficult choice

[young spoke]

fair enough

[zinc lion]

To be honest, idc if its 75% or 100%

[young spoke]

dang

tkl good?

[zinc lion]

I just liked the K687 they had at microcenter

[young spoke]

if so a gmk87 and you choose your own keycaps/switches is probably better

[zinc lion]

And saw the 724 was cheaper right now

[zinc lion]

?

Idk what that means

[young spoke]

full size without numpad

[zinc lion]

Honestly zero care, id prefer a numpad but its no dealbreaker

[young spoke]

i’d go for that

then you can choose what switches and keycaps you want

[zinc lion]

Ive never dug this deep into keyboards lol

[young spoke]

welcome to the sess pit

[zinc lion]

The redragon boards I was looking at had like, creamy? Switches?

I think? Whatever they weirdly call them?

[young spoke]

did they have a bump?

like was it completely smooth up and down or had a bump

[zinc lion]

It was definitely mechanical, and I think it had a bump

Its been a minute

One sec

[young spoke]

you’d want tactile then

[zinc lion]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Qee2FMEUSXw?si=rZvqx2mq_icQAX5Y

[young spoke]

tactile has a bump and linear doesn’t

linear is smooth

[zinc lion]

Not the same caps I wanted

But hopefully tells you something

https://youtube.com/shorts/iS_BN__7xdI?si=B4GrXIx4e0jj8ksx

This cringe too

[young spoke]

those are linear

i’d recommend a gmk87 with morandi switches

or ajazz gift switches i love those

[zinc lion]

And what does it mean when it says “gasket keyboard”

[maiden turtle]

Got my op1w 4k a couple of days back they are soo good.

[zinc lion]

Does that have any real meaning

[young spoke]

it’s mounted on silicone gaskets

meaning it’s got some flex to it

better typing feel

doesn’t feel like pressing down on a brick

[maiden turtle]

Yes. It means the plate is sitting on foam or silicone

Which gives it some level of vertical movement and dampening

[zinc lion]

Oh boy

I knew you could go in depth with keyboards

But sheesh

Lol

[maiden turtle]

Yeah they are great.

[young spoke]

that isn’t that deep knowledge wise

[maiden turtle]

Gasket mounting thanks to chinese companies is now quite mundane

[zinc lion]

I mean yeah its not a ton but still

[young spoke]

hand wire your own keyboard rn

i’d just recommend getting a gmk87

[maiden turtle]

What's the new hotness tho. I really haven't kept in pace after I got my sugar 65

I mean excluding hall effect

[zinc lion]

Also, I do want a wireless mouse as ive been using a deathadder v2 mini wired

I dont love it, i dont hate it

Any decent recommendations bang for $ for wireless

[maiden turtle]

What's your grip type and how large are your hands

[zinc lion]

I could not confidently answer either of those questions lmao, i apologize

[maiden turtle]

And what would be your price sweet spot

[maiden turtle]

Ah ok just a moment

[zinc lion]

Under $100 preferably, but if its really worth it ill spend more

[young spoke]

whatever mchose makes recently

[zinc lion]

And deathadder feels okay in the hand, probably a little small

[maiden turtle]

This should give you a decent idea

[young spoke]

great mice

[zinc lion]

I think ive been using tip grip

Idk i never thought about it like that

[maiden turtle]

Your hands don't contact the bottom part of the mouse at all?

[zinc lion]

Give me 2 seconds, i forgot i have a mouse at work I can use to give a better answer 😂

[maiden turtle]

Tho if you are unsure a Logitech g pro clone or similar will do well

As long as you don't get the real Logitech g pro

[zinc lion]

My grip sits in between palm and tip, but not claw, as my palm sits entirely off the mouse except for right underneath my knuckles

As in its like my whole entire finger but no palm as the mouse is too small for that, which is like the same as I have at home in terms of size

If it was a bigger mouse id probably be using palm

[zinc lion]

Is there a specific clone youd recommend

I want something proper with a good sensor and low latency, I know latency isnt really a problem anymore but sensors can be

Even tho I still dont know what that means deep down other than it not being able to read a vibrant desk pad

Which I dont have but still

I know about the attack shark, what about this redragon M916?

Not like i care about redragon or anything im more just curious because it was the second result after I searched g pro clone

[maiden turtle]

I would ignore red dragon

[young spoke]

i use the m913 regularly

[maiden turtle]

I honestly would check online. Tho choosing from brands like atk ( and it's sub brands) mchose and attack shark would be smart

[young spoke]

great mouse

love the 12 side buttons

[maiden turtle]

I personally have had a terrible experience with them

Red dragon in general

[zinc lion]

Did you buy their super cheap stuff? I heard bad on that but im seeing them make nicer things now, dont know anything about it really but seems to be decent quality for the money on their “higher” end stuff

[young spoke]

ehhh

i’ve been fine so far

[maiden turtle]

Yeah it was their cheap stuff and was a while back too. Just stayed clear of them. Cuz of their poor qc and service.

[zinc lion]

Yeah I heard bad about their super cheap shit. Now im seeing them in micro center and all over with what seems to be decent quality products

And it seems all pretty recent too

But again, zero experience with them so I have no actual idea

Other than tapping all over the greasy keyboard at micro center

[zinc lion]

Also thank you @maiden turtle and @young spoke for the help

[surreal palm]

decided to build a hall effect keyboard and got myself a melgeek made84 and put the haimu dove silent switches in it. i absolutely love the feel but am out of my depth when trying to modify things in the interface. i ended up just having two presets- default and then rapid with a profile i downloaded from some esports player i cant remember. any tips on what to change or look out for from more expierienced HE users?

[lone echo]

https://youtu.be/xOBggykgTAM?t=243 ROG KFC keycaps , can get Durian burgers too

[pale cipher]

would you guys reccomend Akko Creamy Purples of Kailh Box Jades? planning on building my first keyboard and I've narrowed it down to those two switches

if I go with the Jades I'd get this keyboard kit and the switches seperately: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CF2PB31B?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_FJ1J2YA7CJHVZVH8B8KC_2

but if I go with the purples I'd get this prebuilt and just put the keycaps on it: https://a.co/d/fkNNI0U

these are the keycaps: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D6YJFGHG?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_P3CM1X6HBT6MJ89A2HJ6_1

[pale cipher]

the gold-ish dial on this one goes with the keycaps slightly better, but it's not a make or break for me

I personally like the jades a teeny bit better but I think because they're harder to press down it'd get annoying over time

and everybody I've asked irl has said to go with the creamy purples, I just wanna get your opinions first

it's a $5 price difference so that's negligible

[fervent breach]

not really how heavier switches work tbh

you just get used to it if it’s not like a 20-30g bump from what ur used to

[pale cipher]

I’d be coming from a Razer Chroma Ornata V1

[fervent breach]

im not the budget mx guy good luck with that

[flat dock]

from my very loose memory of what that keyboard feels like from when it first came out, i think it's probably pretty medium weight, similar to box jades
the akko creamy purple pro are very light by comparison, still tactile but no click
box jades use a clickbar so it's probably a more crisp tactility than you're used to

Honestly if I were you, I would pick the Monsgeek M1 because I know it gets recommended. And you can get a lot more value out of a decent prebuilt, compared to a cheap barebones and buying really cheap keycaps and ending up at the same price

[mortal merlin]

(moved from #tech-chat-1)
Anyone have any recommendations for PC game controllers? I have pretty big size hands, maybe luke sized, and the two controllers I've liked the most this far, but for consoles, is the Old Xbox Duke controller and Dreamcast's controllers.

[proud ermine]

secretlab chair worth?

[bitter oar]

no

unlikely

[proud ermine]

have any recs?

[bitter oar]

region specific so no

go to a store and try chairs

or multiple stores with variety

[proud ermine]

ok

[bitter oar]

it’s short of a thing you want to do irl

you may receive your expensive chair just to find out you don’t feel comfy on it

or that it’s mediocre

[proud ermine]

I'll have to find some places near me

[flat dock]

yeah chairs are very subjective

you can't buy it on rtings.com like a monitor

Well actually I bet they have reviews but still

[silk matrix]

hey is there any body decent with monitors? thats not gonna slander me with some questions I have and for what I currently have

[bitter oar]

yeah, anyone with good knowledge about monitors will ask you about preferences too

look for scientific reviews that measure: color accuracy, contrast & black levels, max brightness, pixel response (how fast can pixel transition), flicker if that’s issue for your eyes, viewing angles, etc.

[flat dock]

take a look at rtings.com

[fiery sail]

Answering a couple questions that takes less than 5 minutes can save ypu hundreds of dollars

[fervent breach]

interrogation officer

[wraith hull]

Hey I was just wondering if I could get a second opinion on monitors, currently eyeing up the LG 34GS95QE-B and I was curious if any of y'all had any alternative suggestions/own one and could let me know if it's worth it. From the reviews I've read online it seems pretty much perfect for me size and spec wise, but I'd be open to other options

[fervent breach]

i wish when people sent these messages they included specs and stuff so i don’t have to hunt down the specific monitor they’re talking about on google

[lament vector]

I just got a new keyboard

it would probably make keyboard enthusiast sigh

but it's so nice for me

I love it lol

[pallid pasture]

Hey i had a quick question about the deltahub wrist wrest
would it work with a vertical mouse?

[fervent breach]

why would u say that and give no info about the board lol

I got a monitor

Bye

[lament vector]

Redragon Eisa Max (K686sp)

[fervent breach]

sorry for your loss 🙏

joke i am not this mean

im still sorry for ur loss though

[lament vector]

haha it's OK

I like it

it sound creamy enough

[fervent breach]

Dont say that

[lament vector]

it was fairly priced and was easy to get, so I'm satisfied

[burnt tapir]

Just got two new monitors for a steal, went from a 1440p curved samsung to 2 AOC AG276QZD2 panels.

I plan to use the old samsung as a vertical and stack these two new ones.

Seems to be a random grey flicker while gaming after about an hour or so, is this a refresh? Also the pop up on pixel refresh every 4 hours is interesting while working.

I don’t have experience w/ OLED monitors, even got my first OLED TV a few months ago.

Anyone have advice? Best settings/things i can do differently?

[flat dock]

dude literally sent the exact monitor model number

[fervent breach]

proves to me u read nothing lol

I wish they posted the specs so i don’t have to find the specs of that specific monitor on google

it is just a lazy gripe but at least Read what i said

[flat dock]

When you say that it reads like it means you can't find the specific monitor based on what they said in their message

[lament vector]

They mean it's more useful to detail the specs in your message instead of the model number

[fervent breach]

no it doesnt

[flat dock]

whatever you say dude

that's how it reads initially with no other context

[blazing sky]

Hello I need recommendations for a decent "gaming" keyboard....
Budget: €20
Preference: anything that's better than those membrane ones

• RGB or non-rgb doesn't matter
  Current keyboard below 👇

[fervent breach]

save up your money and come back later

[blazing sky]

Let's bump it up to €40. Let's talk now

[fervent breach]

ask a budget mx person here

i am sorry i am more of a high end keyboard person

@young spoke

[blazing sky]

Nvm buddy. I have found one which suits my needs. Ty for help. Lemokey x3

[fervent breach]

that board costs a bit more than 40€ man

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-s-patrick-patrick-star-bottle-dumb-gif-1741625486363070335

maybe bro found a good deal

[blazing sky]

No?

[fervent breach]

Goog for you my humble king

[fervent breach]

@surreal palm why did u thumbs down react me

[undone vault]

Anyone know of any good keyboards that work with console?
Budget around ~£60, not looking for a full keyboard with numpad, but arrow keys are needed

[opaque kayak]

Hey, I am looking for a mic arm that I can mount above my head. And which can be adjusted to go below its mounting point. They all seem like they can only go down to desk level when mounted on the desk. Any recommendations?

Something like this but turned 180deg would also work.

[main narwhal]

have to make sure whatever you want to use the keyboard for is supported first

[undone vault]

Its hard to tell and I dont know any

[main narwhal]

like for gaming?

and what console

[young spoke]

any keyboard with a usb c port will work on console

[undone vault]

You sure?

[young spoke]

yes.

[undone vault]

Yeah its for Xbox Series X

Some dont work though

Thats why some are specifically certified to work on xbox

[young spoke]

i’m absolutely 100% sure every single keyboard with a usb c port will work

[main narwhal]

sort of

[young spoke]

this is wrong

[undone vault]

None of those will work

consoles dont have USB-C ports

[young spoke]

they will

on the keyboard

also they do anyway

[undone vault]

no usb-c to plug into

[main narwhal]

the ability to use keyboard has to be set by the dev

[undone vault]

No

They have normal USB

not usb-c

[young spoke]

usb c to usb a

[undone vault]

ah

Sorry i dont know much about keyboards

[young spoke]

any keyboard with a usb c port on it will work

meaning any keyboard made in the last 10 years

[undone vault]

So i just need to find a good one?

[young spoke]

yes

[main narwhal]

what games do you play?

[young spoke]

console compatibility is a minimal issue

[undone vault]

okay

do you have any reccomendations for a keyboard?

[young spoke]

no i hate the 100% form factor

[undone vault]

?

[main narwhal]

first figure out if the games you want to play even support keyboard

because not all of them do

[undone vault]

They do

[young spoke]

i hate 100% keyboards

[undone vault]

okay..?

then dont use one

[main narwhal]

second, if a little bit of latency isn't a problem

[young spoke]

meaning i don’t have any recommendations

[main narwhal]

i'd just get a bluetooth keyboard so you can sit on the couch and notw orry about wires

[undone vault]

Who said I needd 100%

[young spoke]

you

[main narwhal]

or one with a 2.4ghz dongle

[undone vault]

Numpad and stuff arent needed

[undone vault]

How is that 100%?

Isnt like full number pad and everything 100%

[young spoke]

looking for a full keyboard with numpad

[undone vault]

no

[young spoke]

what

[undone vault]

No numpad lol

[young spoke]

oh

[undone vault]

ohh

sorry that was a typo

[young spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/mouxy-cotorep-aveugle-debile-esquiver-gif-20546128

[undone vault]

my bad lol

[young spoke]

nah i’m blind asf

anyway

[undone vault]

Arrow keys will be needed though

[young spoke]

i imagine a gmk67 will be fine

or a ak680 those are alright

[main narwhal]

arrow keys? or wasd?

[undone vault]

arrow keys, the little keys with arrows

wasd is neccesary for a keyboard to work

thats movement and typing

[main narwhal]

so keyboard mouse combo? or just keyboard

[undone vault]

this has no buttons on it

[undone vault]

keyboard

just keyboard

[main narwhal]

what game are you playing that only uses keyboard?

using both keyboard and controller?

[undone vault]

I have a mouse

[main narwhal]

ahhh

[undone vault]

Will be used only gaming on console

If that makes a difference

[undone vault]

do they sell in any other colours

or just green

[main narwhal]

bunch of different colors

that boyi listing should come in different colors

[young spoke]

by you buying it on amazon dang

buy it on aliexpress

it’s like £30

[undone vault]

?

[young spoke]

aliexpress

[undone vault]

never used it

[young spoke]

use it

[undone vault]

I thought it just sold crap cheap stuff

like temu or smth

[young spoke]

no it sells the same things just not dropshipped

buy some switches and some aifei v3 keycaps off there too

[undone vault]

what are they?

I just want a keyboard dude

[young spoke]

buy gmk67

find out what switches you want

(i’d recommend using a switch tester)

and then buy some aifei v3 keycaps

[fresh jetty]

Can anybody suggest me a budget headset around 1K INR?
I was considering to re-buy Sony MDR-ZX310AP.
I'll have to order within 2 hours.

[fresh jetty]

What's the matter?

[undone vault]

wdym?

[young spoke]

there’s different types

[undone vault]

Just a keyboard

[young spoke]

ngl just buy a gateorn switch tester

[undone vault]

??

[young spoke]

yeah there’s different types of switches

[undone vault]

for what

[young spoke]

for the keyboard?

to make it work

[undone vault]

I told you I dont know about keyboards I dont know what you are talking about

[young spoke]

bruh

in a keyboard there’s switches

[undone vault]

I dont know about keyboards 🙏

[young spoke]

there different types

they all feel different

[undone vault]

and what do they do

[young spoke]

actuate keys

and change the feel and sound

[undone vault]

the clicky button things underneath the keys?

oh

[fresh jetty]

@undone vault

[young spoke]

yes

[undone vault]

like mechanical

[young spoke]

yeah

[undone vault]

whats the ping for I am right here

[fresh jetty]

Switches are the things that you actually press.

[young spoke]

you can get linear ones tactile ones ones that click and ones that are silent

etc

[undone vault]

Yeah vauxcorsa just said that

[fresh jetty]

Use layman terms.

[young spoke]

i’d recommend buying a gateron switch tester

[undone vault]

No I get it now

[undone vault]

Dont I need switches to test first

[fresh jetty]

Tactile - You won't feel a thing unless you go all the way in.

[fresh jetty]

Seems like a waste to me.

[fresh jetty]

Click - Noisy

Mostly non-tactile.

[undone vault]

bruh 20 bucks just to test what buttons I want on my keyboard

[fresh jetty]

You'd feel a bump before going all the way in.

[fresh jetty]

Though you can also find non-tactile silent.

[fresh jetty]

It seemed like a waste to me for a reason.

What is your budget anyway?

[undone vault]

Ill go up to like £60

GBP

[fresh jetty]

@young spoke
Was this the definition for tactile or non-tactile.

[fresh jetty]

I remember being told someplace spending like $35 for a keyboard is like spending $350 for a car.

Not sure how accurate that was.

[young spoke]

wrong

[fresh jetty]

But people, is that a good budget?

[young spoke]

tactile has a bump half way down

[fresh jetty]

Thanks

[young spoke]

linear is completely up and down in one motion

[fresh jetty]

That's where I got wrong.

[undone vault]

Whats a regular budget?

[young spoke]

clicky is tactile but loud

[young spoke]

£60 is fine

i’d recommend just getting a gmk67 and some aifei v3 keycaps atm

then buy a switch tester and feel what you like

[undone vault]

Cant I just by a full keybaord

[young spoke]

waste

[undone vault]

I dont know how to create a keyboard

[fresh jetty]

I don't know, I gave up taking online help after finding out increasing your budget by 10 times won't yield you anything.

[young spoke]

it’s easy as piss

[fresh jetty]

||I just started relying to my broke friends. 💀||

[young spoke]

i build a mechanical keyboard on £8 before

and £6 of that was lube

[fresh jetty]

Why though?

[fresh jetty]

Man, find me the kit.

[young spoke]

worse quality then a gmk67

[undone vault]

Id rather just buy a keyboard

[young spoke]

facebook marketplace special

[undone vault]

not a bunch of parts that might not work together

[fresh jetty]

Isn't "Full" the size?

[young spoke]

i’d go for an ak820 i guess

[fresh jetty]

What is the purpose?

[young spoke]

for 65% idk about a prebuilt

an ak820 pro is fine

[fresh jetty]

I am currently suffering due to a lack of Num-pad.

[young spoke]

he means a prebuilt

[fresh jetty]

Understandable.

[undone vault]

I thought all keyboards were prebuilt

[fresh jetty]

Most are though.

[fresh jetty]

Are you buying or building a keyboard?

[undone vault]

Just want to buy a keyboard to use

[young spoke]

ngl

ak820 pro

[fresh jetty]

Then why are you even considering building one?

[young spoke]

off aliexpress like £50

[fresh jetty]

😅

[young spoke]

off amazon £60 maybe

[undone vault]

Im not

vauxcorsa started all the buying switches and keys talk

[fresh jetty]

Is it hotswappable?

Though?

[young spoke]

yes

obv

any keyboard over £20 is nowadays

[fresh jetty]

By the way, the real reason people want hotswappable is for the when their switches die, right?

[young spoke]

it’s to change them easily

[undone vault]

You got any keyboards that arent the ugliest colour combos

brown and yellow keyboard 😭

[fresh jetty]

HP GK400F.

[young spoke]

what

[fresh jetty]

You'd want to change them after they die, right?

[young spoke]

sure

you can change them whenever you want

[fresh jetty]

You can always get keycaps.

[fresh jetty]

I am just asking the instances you'd want to change the.

*them

[young spoke]

swap them

for different feel

[undone vault]

I think mechanical is good

[young spoke]

yeah

[undone vault]

but just not a keyboard with a weird colour

[young spoke]

there’s different mechanical feels

wdym

ak820 pro looks perfectly fine

[undone vault]

All the keyboards you linked have been brown and yellow or puke green

[young spoke]

like?

[undone vault]

The ones you linked

[young spoke]

i haven’t linked any keyboards

[undone vault]

the ones you said

same thing

[young spoke]

yeah

they all looks fine and have multiple colours

[undone vault]

not on amazon

[young spoke]

never buy a keyboard on amazon ngl

[fresh jetty]

Get keycaps man? ;-)

[undone vault]

The keyboard base is still cream yellow

[young spoke]

aliexpress is the same thing just literally cheaper

[undone vault]

Well ive got prime

so might aswell use the current sales and free shipping

[young spoke]

gmk67 comes in like 100 different colours

[young spoke]

it’ll be cheaper on aliexpress

with prime included

[undone vault]

Never used aliexpress so dont really trust it

[young spoke]

i have

like 3 times this week

idk why you wouldn’t trust it it’s literally the same seller as amazon

[undone vault]

Never heard of it

[undone vault]

what about these random company

ajazz?

[young spoke]

pretty sure it’s older then amazon actually

[young spoke]

ajazz is older then amazon

[undone vault]

what

[young spoke]

ajazz is a pretty common keyboard company

[undone vault]

weird name but uhh okay

[young spoke]

they make a lot of shit

[fresh jetty]

I don't think so?

[young spoke]

there’s a company called homoo

don’t question it

[fresh jetty]

Never heard its name personally.

[young spoke]

tf how

bananas are best switch ever made ngl

(i once bought 10 used ajazz bananas and 6 of them came dead on arrival)

[fresh jetty]

Damn

[young spoke]

you can always just swap the keycaps

[undone vault]

so I shouldnt trust them

[young spoke]

you should

[undone vault]

Thats more than half that came broken lmao

[fresh jetty]

He was saying that the base was also cream yellow.

[young spoke]

my ak820 pro still works

[young spoke]

idk if that was ajazz or the seller

anyway

ak820 pro great keyboard

[undone vault]

I thought keyboards came from like logitech and razer mostly 🙏

[young spoke]

only the shit ones yeah

[undone vault]

Not Ajazz and homo 😭

[young spoke]

crazy

[fresh jetty]

Come to my country.
You'll see many brands that are available globally apart from those.

[young spoke]

logitech and razer make the most bottom of the barrel keyboards possible

[undone vault]

what about mice

[fresh jetty]

Turns out they are all using Chinese rebrands like the global competitors. 💀

[young spoke]

attack shark

[undone vault]

I have a logitech mous...

[young spoke]

almost all logitech and razer keyboards are just chinese OEM brands

with a razer sticker on it

they make it for £15 then sell for whatever extortionate prices they have now

[fresh jetty]

Wait, Logitech as well?!

😭

[young spoke]

yes

[fresh jetty]

It was the only brand I had trusted for years.

[undone vault]

I have a logitech mouse

damn

[fresh jetty]

What about EVGA?

Dell?

Hewlett Packard

[undone vault]

Dell and HP are just office shit

[fresh jetty]

The last two are the ones you get for free with laptops. 💀

[fresh jetty]

I know

[young spoke]

i’m convinced logitech boards are just magegee geeky and koorui boards that failed the quality control test

[fresh jetty]

As a person whose cheap-ass Logitech Membrane keyboard bought in like 2011 or 2012 still works, I have got an urge to disagree.

[young spoke]

hp and dells “gaming” keyboards are literally just the shitty razer and logitech boards

[young spoke]

i mean the mechanical boards

a membrane will be perfectly fine

[fresh jetty]

What 'bout Redragon?

[young spoke]

they literally cost like £10

[fresh jetty]

Though it is Chinese.

[young spoke]

they’re older ones like the k552 yes

the new anime boards they make are alright

[undone vault]

Red ragon?

[fresh jetty]

Some authentic, good quality made in China.

[young spoke]

yeah

[fresh jetty]

Opinions on Redragon K582 Surara?

[undone vault]

I think they meant reddragon

not red ragon

[young spoke]

it’s fine

[fresh jetty]

I guess that's how it is spelled?

[undone vault]

Do they have good keyboards?

[fresh jetty]

Logitech G102?

[young spoke]

ass

[undone vault]

Logitech Hero g502?

[fresh jetty]

What else should I get for similar price?

[fresh jetty]

No

[undone vault]

"No" as in?

[young spoke]

i’ve heard of like 5 people who have had them just break on them

[fresh jetty]

I thought you confused my mouse.

[fresh jetty]

Double click issue?

[undone vault]

Its the one I have

[fresh jetty]

Isn't that an easy fix?

[young spoke]

idk if mchose makes a mouse at that price

if so that

[young spoke]

no like literally the sensor stops working

[fresh jetty]

Another mouse I was considering was EVGA X12.

The only issue with that...

Reviews say a desing in flaw in the scroll wheell.

*wheel

Which causes it to break real quick.

[young spoke]

i’d go for a mchose mouse

whatever they make for that price

[undone vault]

So is there any good keyboards on amazon

Would prefer to use it

[young spoke]

if not an attack shark x3 works

[fresh jetty]

Doesn't seem available in my country for a similar price.

[young spoke]

ak820 pro is on there i think

[young spoke]

aliexpress?

[fresh jetty]

Not available here.

[young spoke]

if you don’t have aliexpress i have no clue

the evga is fine

it’ll work

[fresh jetty]

The scroll wheel...

[undone vault]

Does the normal ak820 have anything the Pro doesnt?

[young spoke]

it’s alright

that’s easily reparable

[young spoke]

the ak820 base version is essentially e waste

[fresh jetty]

The other issue was that...
||EVGA lacks a service network here, so the warranty is screwed.||

[undone vault]

Okay

Its bad?

[young spoke]

the only thing similar is the base

but even then

it’s ass

[undone vault]

okay

[fresh jetty]

How? From where am I supposed to get a replacement wheel?

[young spoke]

it uses a standard part

you can find some for like 20p a piece

[fresh jetty]

Are you talking about the internal?

[young spoke]

then simple soldering job

[undone vault]

X820 shark?

That one fits more with its colour scheme

[young spoke]

never heard of it

[fresh jetty]

I am talking about the external part that you touch.

[young spoke]

oh

[undone vault]

Nvm its a different company dont know why amazon showing it to me

[young spoke]

yeah lol

[barren hearth]

Any advice for skates for the viper v3 hyperspeed on a glass mousepad

[young spoke]

they go by ajazz or mechlands on amazon

[young spoke]

anything but a glass skate

[barren hearth]

Do PTFE work

[undone vault]

The only difference between the normal and Pro looks like the Pro has a screen..?

[young spoke]

yes

[barren hearth]

Ok thanks

[young spoke]

worse switches worse keycaps worse foam worse mounting

etc

i could go on

[undone vault]

what does the screen do

[young spoke]

idk i never use it

it shows the time

[undone vault]

Oh nice

[young spoke]

about it

you can press FN + the knob to control the screens display

[undone vault]

It says its "3 modes" that includes wired?

[undone vault]

which switch should i select

[young spoke]

yes

[young spoke]

gift

both are 45g linears

the gift just sounds good

[undone vault]

why would sound have an effect on if its good

[young spoke]

both are identical

the gift just sounds better innit

the flying fish sound just really odd

[undone vault]

Ill get the fish then

[young spoke]

what

[undone vault]

Its slightly cheaper

[young spoke]

nah the gift is better

trust me it’s worth it

[undone vault]

Sounds it useless, its a keyboard

[young spoke]

what

it isn’t

[undone vault]

yes

[young spoke]

sound is what makes a keyboard good

[undone vault]

what

[young spoke]

otherwise just use a silent switch

[undone vault]

I use a headset while gaming, I wont hear it either way

[undone vault]

I dont think it matters much but ill trust you

gift switch it is

[zinc gull]

Currently thinking about possibly getting a base spec M4 Mac Mini for video editing, school work, and possibly some light gaming. What would be the best monitor, mouse, and keyboard to get for a total of around or under ~$300 USD?

[flat dock]

any USB keyboard to be honest

it's all USB HID

alright watching this keyboard conversation is hurting my brain cells

[fervent breach]

die

feel is what makes a keyboard good

sound is pretty much irrelevant

[flat dock]

sound affects the feel

it's subjective

[forest cradle]

49 Inch monitors are peak

I recently got an older non OLED Samsung g9

would reccomend to anyone

[grand escarp]

I think sound is less important, for sure. I'm wearing headphones most of the time (most people are). Now, the click bars in my Box Navy switches were making my bad ear ring when not wearing headphones, so I had to take them out, so, in that way, I can see certain sound profiles/volumes being deal breakers, at least. I also noticed that I couldn't hear them over music/game in my headphones, and when typing fast enough/gaming hard enough, I couldn't feel the tactile bump, either. Pretty sure I've convinced myself that linear is best (Granted, I haven't tried an EC/Topre board yet. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be a fan of the rubber dome feel, though).

With all of that said, today I installed 150g springs into my keyboard. I figured, having acclimated to Box Navy switches, then 20g springs that I modded into my optical keyboard after that, that I could acclimate to much heavier springs just fine, and have stronger hands for it. So I'm trying that. Guess we'll see how that goes. Does feel slower, more difficult. Still typing above 130WPM, though. Box Navy's springs feel ultra light in comparison.

Guh. I'm just now realizing that these Corsair OPX switches have a ton of wobble. Maybe I should buy stupid-heavy springs for the Navies...

[azure wave]

just imagine if you had open back headphones or ever upgraded to such a pair. or better yet, upgraded to some speakers

headphone user

[flat dock]

topre doesn't feel mushy like rubber dome

but if you picked linears over clickies then that must be your prefetence

[young spoke]

ktt matchas best switch ever made

[flat dock]

they look like beers but with more linear post travel

[winter perch]

I just ordered my endgame dream keyboard, got the monsgeek m1v5 via rapid disassembly with the durock ice kings and the gmk WoB red cyrillic keycaps

[young spoke]

yes

linear travel is the best part of a tactile switch

[fervent breach]

dream bigger

[winter perch]

Well its the perfect layout for me so why would i

[tranquil gorge]

does anyone know the name of this cable?

[tranquil gorge]

that’s not the cable type

it’s fine i got it, it’s the 3 pin clover (C5)

[flat dock]

buy linears

[young spoke]

nah

i like a lot of linear travel

because i know when im feeling linear travel that im not actually actuating the key

i like the build up to the bump that linear travel gives

[flat dock]

what

How does that mean don't buy linears

[glass marsh]

Any banger monitors for cheap

27 inch

165hz+

2k

🙏🙏🙏

Id say oled but that's means it's not cheap anymore 🤬🤬

[fiery sail]

just add 1ms response time (MPRT) to the filters and send the 3 cheapest you can find

i'll help u chose which one is the best for you

[glass marsh]

I'll check rq

[glass marsh]

Thats in 2k, I'll check for 1080p

It came up with some different 2k ones this time ┐⁠(⁠ ⁠∵⁠ ⁠)⁠┌

[fiery sail]

what are you usually using your monitor for and are you viewing it from abstract angles regularly?

like viewing fro ma perspective where your head isnt even in front of the monitor anymore

[glass marsh]

gaming and general browsing and stuff

and ill onyl rlly be looking from a different angle if im watching a yt vid or sum and kying back

ig also i usde it for like cad and some video editing

and coursework and such

[fiery sail]

these panels are VA, which can be great, especially for its price as they are usually cheaper than IPS.
the 2 things you have to know is that VA panels almost always have more contrast and therefor look slightly better, whilst IPS panels can be viewed from basically any angle without issues.
VAs, especially when viewed from the side, get a bit shiny. you can test this effect on your current monitor, as even IPS have it but only when watched from really absurd angles noone would care about.

on VAs this usually happens more when watched from the side, at least 20-30° off
if your eyes are below or above the screen, especially when far back, thats not a big issue

[glass marsh]

yea its no biggie

im sat right infront

[fiery sail]

alright perfect

[glass marsh]

which do you reccomend then?

[fiery sail]

give me a minute, the AOC one looks amazign especially for its price, unless getting 165 instead of 144 Hz is a dealbreaker for you.
the only thing is, 2 monitors that are advertised at 1ms response time can have DRASTICALLY different real world response times.
1ms is great t o filter out all the "landmines" but depending on a few things i would consider one of the 159 pound ones as well. so i will quickly look up those real world response times and be back for you afterwards

[glass marsh]

the second aoc one is 180hz

is a sync the same as freesync and shi?

[fiery sail]

oh true i thought those were 1080p based on what u wrote before that picture so i didnt even look at that xD

mb

[glass marsh]

yea lol i just didnt out sizes in the second time andf another 27 inch came up

[fiery sail]

functionally they are identical. you can use them with any GPU and they will give u the same performance

G sync uses a physical component, the G sync module, whilst freesync and all the others are just software

[glass marsh]

btu they basically just do the exact same thing

why the flip do they need a module then

[fiery sail]

back when it was introduced there was marketing BS

and it needed a few years to be available for all GPUs

first 2-3 years there were montiors that exclusively worked with AMD or Nvidia

so it was to lure people who already bought nvidia GPUs to buy another nvidia one bc they locked people out of it being compatible

so you lost G sync if u went AMD the next time

[glass marsh]

oh ok gotchu

thanks bro

so get the 180hz aoc orrr?

[fiery sail]

yes, sadly it doesnt have perfect review data, where the real world response times were measured and put into a chart to compare side by side, but i found multiple credible sources that didnt report any of the typical problems that you get when response times are too low.
so especially considering the price gap, that seems like the best deal.

i would never pay 160 or more pounds just for slightly better response times (if they even are better), when at around 220 GBP you could be getting a miniLED monitor, which makes content not look quite as good as OLED, but somwhere in the middle of standard monitors and OLED

[glass marsh]

i mean id love to have oled, itd be great, but just dont want to be spending that much on a monitor

i got other things to buy

lol

alr thank you so much for the help man

have a great rest of your day

[fiery sail]

u2 mate

[glass marsh]

oh its curved

didnte even realise

[fiery sail]

also thats why i mentioned mini LED as that is often goes below the radar of most people and, while not ideal for many, the best way to improve imagine quality without braking the bank as muc has OLED

[fiery sail]

yeah a lot of the good VAs are curved to help with the viewing angles

[glass marsh]

ill see if there are any that are reasonably cheap

[glass marsh]

should be fine as long as i can still align my second monitor with it ok

[fiery sail]

all the miniLEDs monitors are great, there is just 1 landmine that is not seviceable, the Acer Nitro XV5 XV275UP3biiprx

[glass marsh]

not a chance lol

[fiery sail]

yeah as i said aroudn 220

Xiaomi G Pro 27i

try findign that one

AOC Q27G3XMN

and this one

if ur lucky one of them might be sub 200

but its still an argument if thats worth your money

[glass marsh]

nah its liek 250

also a question if i get a 3d printer or this but yhats not your problem lol

idk whats going on with my current monitor, ive had it for a few years now its slowly deteriorating

[fiery sail]

model number?

[glass marsh]

it was 165 hz but over time its jst slowly died

it now only works at 75 hz

[glass marsh]

acer nitro 5

all i know

0.5 or 1ms respose iirc

[fiery sail]

u can right click ur desktop and find it under display settings

then advanced display settings at the bottom

and then u should see the exact name

[fiery sail]

anything else but the refresh rate that deteriorated?

[glass marsh]

I seems more choppy kinda when scrolling on something but that's probably just the Hz lowering

So no

But when it deteriorated, it's like 2/3 of the screen is freaking out and bugging, but the other 1/3 is fine

So every few months it would happen and I'd have to go down a atep

[fiery sail]

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/670704/monitor-is-no-longer-working-with-higher-refresh-rates-acer-kg272-s?tab=accepted

[glass marsh]

And now like the 165 and 144 don't work at all, they're 99% broken

[fiery sail]

seen this?

[glass marsh]

Nope

[fiery sail]

worth a shot

also always worth contacting the companys support, so acer in this case

they might have similar solutions fro mthe OSD, maybe a software update

or sometimes even built in features for pixel clearing and stuff

[glass marsh]

Wait so the monitor might be fine?

[fiery sail]

also have you had the monitor off for longer periods at some point, like a few days or preferably 1-2 weeks?

[fiery sail]

MIGHT

might be broken

might be fixable

[glass marsh]

Yea

[glass marsh]

I've just gone out, I'll have a proper look when I get home

[fiery sail]

perfect

[glass marsh]

If I can get away with not buying a new monitor that'd help a lot

[fiery sail]

i'd stil lwrite acer support an email as quickly as possible

[glass marsh]

Gotchu

It's rlly odd why it's happening imo

[fiery sail]

u know when u bought the monitor?

[glass marsh]

A while ago

2-3 years

My dad got it for me

[fiery sail]

if its less than 3 years

u might still ahve warranty

very likely even

[glass marsh]

I got it off of Amazon

Should still have the box too acc

[fiery sail]

i mean that would be perfect

u could just get your money back and probably get an even better monitor for the same money now

or just get a new identical one

[glass marsh]

It was the worst timing when it went to 75hz, id just upgraded my CPU and mobo and was up like 30-40fps in every game at least

120 was doable

[fiery sail]

they often even let you keep the old one bc its too expensive

[glass marsh]

I think we looked into it

I'll find the order later and see if I can get a refund

[glass marsh]

Haha

3rd monitor

[fiery sail]

ther e was a guy who ordered a 4k oled for 700€ a few weeks ago, the shipment got lost, so they sent a new one. but evenutally both came to him and he got to keep them both xD

[glass marsh]

Btw I'm so glad I've mentioned that, you defo know a lot more about this stuff than me

[glass marsh]

😂😂😂

[fiery sail]

and this happens regularly

[glass marsh]

The double monitor thing?

Id like that

[fiery sail]

1% of stories make it to the public, 1% of those are seen as worth reporting, 1% of those make it towards your local media and you only consume 1% of whats available to you

most people will just take the monitor or whatever they got, tell their freinds and be happy. not everyone will make a reddit post that blows up or go to a local newspaper or sth

[glass marsh]

I just realised if I get a refund I can get a 3d printer and a new monitor 😂

Oooo

[fiery sail]

with 8 billion people, the most random shit happens every second

[glass marsh]

Oh yeah why talk about it

They you might get in trouble lol

[glass marsh]

Hell yeah

[fiery sail]

that guy only made it public after amazon confirmed he can keep it

its wild how that is more profitable to companies nowadays

[glass marsh]

Lol

Yk what I'll check the Amazon order now and see if I can get the miney

It was like 225 or sum at the time

[fiery sail]

wow

just saying that would be like a free upgrade to miniLED
(or your 3d printer as u mentioned)
maybe u have enough left for both 🤔

but lets confirm u actualyl can get a refund in the first place 😄

[glass marsh]

I was a dummy

It was 150

When I bought a new one to test if it was just broken, then returned that one bcz it did the same 😂😂, it was 220 then

Can't find any return option 😔

[fiery sail]

yikes

[tame ravine]

Can someone recommend me a decent prebuilt keyboard or even recommend me a nice custom build for a £100 budget? I'm in the uk and this keyboard will be used for mainly productivity. I don't mind if it's 60% but i would prefer it to be a 75%. I want the switches to be creamy. Thanks for any help.

[glass marsh]

yo

YO

omds

i turned off low latency mode. also means i cant use freesync????? but it works at 165 hz

lets gooooo

isnt it a good thing to use freesync tho

[fiery sail]

what freesync does is it makes your monitor make a new frame exactly when ur GPU has one ready.

frames are actually displayed 1 horizontal line at a time. so not every pixel is changing colour at the exact time. if a new frame is generated during that time, the monitor will use the new frame, so the top half is the 2nd newest frame while the bottom half is the newest frame.
this is called screen tearing and freesync eliminates it

if you dont notice it a lot and prefer the higher refresh rate, thats perfect

another option is "v sync" which can be enabled in games.
this does the same as freesync,m but it adds latency, because it works the other way round, the GPU generates a frame and mthe monitor basically waits for it.

so freesync is a version of v sync that eliminates the introduces input lag

for the fastest response, techless made a video about different settings, but basically, if you have free sync on, put v sync on as well and limit your FPS about 3 under your monitrors max. i got a 165Hz monitor as well and limit my framerate to 161 through the nvidia app across all games, even those that only have 60 and 120 Hz as an option

[glass marsh]

yea thats what i was doing

but i cant use freesync and keep the low latency off

the low latency was the thing causing it apparently

[fiery sail]

if you cant use freesync, use v sync for higher input lag and no screen tearing or no v sync and uncapped Hz/FPS for lowest latency

low latency modes from the monitor dont do that much

[glass marsh]

v sync doesnt need anytihng setup on the monitor or no?