peripherals

[bitter oar]

third is mx brown and fourth is invyr holy panda

[main narwhal]

wats second

true endgame is lern2chord

[bitter oar]

akko cs jelly black, most recent linears look very similar to each other... linear.

apex 3 membrane

[young spoke]

just get some ktt matchas and call it a day

[flat dock]

theyre pretty light tactile from what ive heard

[young spoke]

yes

early bump

[flat dock]

so like completely different

[young spoke]

better then mx browns no bump

[flat dock]

if its anything like my pears, barely

[young spoke]

mx browns just don’t have a bump at all

[flat dock]

well maybe i dont give enough slander to the thorn bump switches

[young spoke]

when typing on them you do not notice a thing

[flat dock]

early bump makes it way better

[young spoke]

early bump is much better imo

especially for a light tactile

you can actually feel it lmao

[flat dock]

early big bump is better

[young spoke]

nah

[flat dock]

its truth because i said so

[young spoke]

early light bump better

[flat dock]

big bump but light bottom out

[young spoke]

you use a £3 membrane because i said so

doesn’t make it true

[young spoke]

small bump light bottom out better

like 45g bottom out

and sub 1mm bump

[bitter oar]

@young spoke mx brown does indeed have a bump

third image

i just don’t think mx browns are the smoothest switch stock, they tend to be scratchy which you can see a bit the curve is bit jagged

[flat dock]

its a bump but not enough to be satisfying

And I feel like I still make typos at a similar rate to linear on it

[bitter oar]

i think the bump itself is sufficient it’s just down the travel rather than at the beginning which most tactile switch manufacturers do

imo

[fiery sail]

Good thing i went with outemus then. Those have it quite high up if anyone requires that

Its at least in the top third of the travel distance.

[young spoke]

the “bump” is just linear scratchiness

they unironically just feel like unlubed linears

[worldly garden]

cherry was never smooth at all lol

[long obsidian]

Lol

[charred plank]

got some normalized recordings

[young spoke]

what wpm is this at

[fierce spear]

yall are steel series apex 9 mini good? found 1 for like 95 bucks

[young spoke]

there’s better for that price

if you need an analog keyboard idk much about those

but mechanical wise there’s absolutely better

[fierce spear]

what is an analog keyboard may i ask?

[young spoke]

one that uses optical/hall effect switches to input an analog input

a regular membrane/mechanical switch will just do a 1/0 input on or off

a hall effect/optical in this case will have a range of inputs

meaning you can have faster actuation points being able to overwrite inputs cleanly etc

[fierce spear]

ooo

[young spoke]

TLDR unless your a top 1% cs2/val player you don’t really need it

[fierce spear]

whats keyboards u recommend i dont rlly got a budget

[young spoke]

a mechanical keyboard will have much more utility

also being able to get basically any switch under the sun is nice

[young spoke]

for 90 i’d say a rainy75 maybe

for a 60% layout i have no clue

[fierce spear]

nah dw abt a 90 buck budget i got like a 300 budget

[young spoke]

i haven’t bought a 60% in 3 years

[fierce spear]

i like 75%

[vast slate]

I am in a new job that copy, paste, paste format only, paste formula only are used a ton and was thinking a macro keypad would work well. What are your thoughts and which ones would work on a computer that can't have software installed

[fierce spear]

75 or 95 id like having a numpad

[young spoke]

i’d get a mmo mouse

one with like 12 buttons on the side

you can bind them to literally any shortcut

[vast slate]

Didn't think of that

[young spoke]

i have all 12 of mine binded to (in order) ctrl+c ctrl+v back forward ctrl+r ctrl+f ctrl+d ctrl+a FN(this one is dodgy only works in certain scenarios wouldn’t recommend) win+d(shut up) alt+tab and finally esc

i also have my button just to the left of my left mouse button to print screen

[fierce spear]

whats ur thoughts on a logitech g915 tkl

[young spoke]

terrible

for 300 you can get significantly better

[fierce spear]

i like the low profile caps

what else u got in mind?

[young spoke]

please refer to the chart

1. budget
2. layout (eg 75% TKL 65% etc)
3. switch preference (clicky tactile or linear)
4. further switch preference (silent or really light or really heavy etc)
5. general aesthetic preference (do you want a white build a black build or even a fluorescent pink design)

[fervent breach]

buy a topre keyboard and live on with your life

[young spoke]

and then some others like if you want a low profile board if you want the case to be aluminium or what you want the keyboard to sound like

[young spoke]

most importantly never listen to this guy

[fervent breach]

you are scared of spending more than 50 dollars on a keyboard

[young spoke]

no

because i have 3 keyboards over the 50 dollar mark

[fervent breach]

i would much rather spend 150ish on a topre keyboard and have it outlive me than buy a budget mechanical board

[fervent breach]

ohh are they 60

[young spoke]

he has a 300 dollar budget

[fervent breach]

75

[fervent breach]

he can afford a topre keyboard

Job Done

• you have never tried one for an actual period of time

[young spoke]

2 are 53 dollars and the other is 103

[young spoke]

no

[fervent breach]

Ohh Christ

3 dollars over

this is crazy

bro is rich

3 whole coconuts

3 whole clams

[young spoke]

first it was “you’ve never tried one” now it’s “you’ve never tried one for long”

[fervent breach]

i assumed u never tried one

[young spoke]

it was £75

[fervent breach]

pretty sure u said u never tried one before

Oh well not here to argue

[young spoke]

no i said i have tried one

[fervent breach]

Dude who’s buying a boards loss

[young spoke]

just sell the gmk67 dog

[fervent breach]

i am gonna dispose of it

[young spoke]

into my house

[fierce spear]

like 250 75% linears silent light and black for color

[flat dock]

honestly youre better off getting keyboard advice somewhere else given this channel history

i think all the people that know anything got scared away

you could try building a custom keyboard, and then you have more switch options

[flat dock]

for switches you might like this https://milktooth.com/products/light-sakura

for keyboards i honestly dont know about 75% except for the low budget $100 sector

neo75 cu is good if you have money

[young spoke]

neither

homoo sea salt silents are nice though

[flat dock]

i have a sample of the haimu sea salt but they were too ticky for me, and i dont like short spring linears

other than that i dont think i even have any silent linears myself

[worldly garden]

better thrown all of those stabs away, lol

[worldly garden]

yes man

this guy will opt for budget bullshit option 99% of the time, mostly because he thought that was their budget

[worldly garden]

they cringed away, LOL

[flat dock]

just need to tune the keychrin ones I imagine

[worldly garden]

he foamed the shit out of the neo, the only good board he have

iirc

[flat dock]

I guess that's how the poron crumbles

[young spoke]

i just measured the force of this switch i have

it’s a homoo sea salt silent that i made as scratchy as possible

and it has a bigger “bump” then an mx brown

literal proof that mx browns aren’t tactile

[bitter oar]

My slope board has arrived

[worldly garden]

mg75 in big 25

let us know how good they are\

[fervent breach]

why did u make it scratchy

for what purpose

[young spoke]

funny

[worldly garden]

unemployed behavior

[fervent breach]

i feel like if you got your hands on a topre board you’d try to tape mod it

[young spoke]

i would

idk might sound better

[fervent breach]

proves my point

[young spoke]

would it or would it not sound better

[flat dock]

touch grass

[young spoke]

i do

i am rn

[flat dock]

That's impossible

[fiery sail]

anything that is not 100% ordinary and aligns with every single norm seems to be either impossible or crazy to you

[worldly garden]

love it when ltt keyboardist argues

[bitter oar]

the sound is mediocre for an alu board, enter key especially, typing feels bit hard because i'm used to flex boards, web software looks to only work with chromium based browsers, not ff or fffs, as for HE it indeed is HE what can i say

stabilized keys don't rattle or tick

switches are smooth

[worldly garden]

so is mid

lol

how much was it ?

[bitter oar]

80

[worldly garden]

lolz

[bitter oar]

yeah... shipping

you probably don't want to see what retailers charge

msrp is 50

kinda funny to see mechkeys possibly charging a 70-120% margin :d

[bitter oar]

They are

[young spoke]

they aren’t

they’re just scratchy linears

an unlubed linear literally has a bigger bump

[bitter oar]

I had cherry mx browns and they certainly are tactile and scratchy

not just scratchy linears

[bitter oar]

There are rtings graphs that tell otherwise

[young spoke]

what

my homoo sea salt silents have a bigger bump bruh

[bitter oar]

I have not seen any linear that came even close to a mx brown with scratchiness

[bitter oar]

Do you have any way to prove this

[young spoke]

not really?

mx browns are just so ass

[bitter oar]

Does your switch get stuck mid way when you press it from a side

[young spoke]

no

it unironically has a bump

[young spoke]

that isn’t the silent version

or it’s just not true

those things are scratchy as hell

[young spoke]

ok it’s just not true

there’s a small but noticeable scratch near the middle of travel

[bitter oar]

Send me a pic of your switch stem (disassembled)

[young spoke]

i don’t think i have a picture?

[bitter oar]

.

or at an angle

[young spoke]

this is all i have

[young spoke]

no

putting a 60g (from the akko v3 cream blue pro) makes the scratch bump more noticeable

[bitter oar]

100% linear

[bitter oar]

Delubing your switches does this

[young spoke]

it has a bump idk what to tell you

[bitter oar]

Not this

[bitter oar]

That's your switch getting stuck by friction

When you press it at an angle

[young spoke]

it isn’t

it goes down fine at all angles etc

it’s just very scratchy

[quartz jackal]

@dark lark You had the 10 Pro right?

[flat dock]

youre arguing with a glarses fan 🧌

i wonder if youd find a different force curve on really bad linears by actuating at an angle though, like you can sorta feel

even my sonjas are less tactile than brown though

[worldly garden]

i have like 100 kind of switches lol

[flat dock]

I have a bunch of small packs of switches

I should do an inventory

[wooden ember]

are you misinterpreting scratch as a tactile bump? they are not the same thing...

[young spoke]

genuinely feel the same

the scratch is more noticeable then the “bump” if anything

[young spoke]

i’m not pushing down at an angle bruh

[flat dock]

it gets worse when you push at an angle

[young spoke]

no

it feels the same at an angle

mx browns also feel the same at an angle

they are literally just bad linears dog

[worldly garden]

they are tactile

[flat dock]

I was talking about binding on linears in general. Maybe the wobble effect isn't as bad on whatever you're saying. But I was just adding extra info

[young spoke]

disagree

[worldly garden]

cry about it

....

it is a fact

[young spoke]

maybe if you slowly press it down lightly

[worldly garden]

u cant change it

😂

[young spoke]

but honestly when typing they just feel like bad linears

[worldly garden]

they feels likelinear doesnt mean they are one

[young spoke]

it does

like you give me an unlubed linear and an mx brown i couldn’t tell you which one is which

[worldly garden]

skill issue

@fervent breach oy

https://e.tb.cn/h.hMIXYswrx86Wxq4?tk=pSSz45pwNLj

[flat dock]

I've looked at buyee mercari several times and there's never hhkbs for a normal price

there's a few for like $3000+

oh today there's ones

[worldly garden]

mechmarket

[lavish python]

Sup, I need a recommendation for gaming headphones.
Prefer wireless but doesn't have to, I prefer popout mic.
My budget is 120$ / 400 NIS (Israel but can order from Amazon)

Mostly for competitive gaming and music 👍🏻
Right now I got the razer kraken pro v2, they were great but starting to die

[young spoke]

#audio-tech us in peripherals are fucking idiots

[lavish python]

I will ask there, thx

[flat dock]

its expensive too

[flat dock]

@fervent breach how much should i expect to pay in total on buyee for something like this https://buyee.jp/mercari/item/m76756085927
although i found a recent entry on ebay for $125 shipped in similar condition, and one for $135 on mechmarket

so im kinda considering it

[fervent breach]

what is it

[flat dock]

pd-kb400b

[fervent breach]

hold on

[flat dock]

i looked for white ones and they all are extortion listings for like $1500 and i dont really care about the color anyways

similar one on ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/306404578450

[fervent breach]

this is pretty good

[flat dock]

the question is whether all fees and shipping on buyee are less than $35

[fervent breach]

idk where ur looking

[fervent breach]

for me it always has but i ofcourse live in the uk

[flat dock]

if i search mercari buyee for pd-kb400w

so instead i just searched for pd-kb400 and all the reasonable ones are the black version

[fervent breach]

shipping to warehouse is paid by seller

so it should cheap

[flat dock]

which is fine, i dont really care about the color

[fervent breach]

search hhkb

[flat dock]

i did that too

[fervent breach]

model number query only for rare boards

like pro 1

[flat dock]

i cant remember, was there a reason you wanted a pro 1 over pro 2

[fervent breach]

they’re better keyboards

you won’t get one without spending a lot of time or money though

[flat dock]

what exactly is better

[fervent breach]

for example someone paid 350 usd today for a white high serial one

[fervent breach]

domes, port placement, collection value

other than that it’s the same board

but i have no reason to collect pro 2s

as there’s literally tens of thousands

[flat dock]

idk how to even get to a page on buyee where it tells me how much it costs with fees and everything

nevermind the buyee website is just incredibly buggy

it's going to be cheaper to just buy that $125 one from ebay

[worldly garden]

kventinky the budget enthusiast

[young spoke]

nah i am

anyway @fervent breach when sell £10 gmk67

[peak scroll]

whats a good headphone bt with bass and music (budget - 100$)

[urban tusk]

anyone familiar with the EWEADN-Battle68? im planning on buying it

[errant ridge]

My £18 xbox controller is seemingly killing itself with all the gunk and drift and stuff and I was wondering if any of you guys had any recommendations for a new controller thatd work for my pc and phone really nicely?

[ebon token]

is the logitech g502 and g pro kb a good combo wich i should switch

[young spoke]

both

[ebon token]

Bro

[young spoke]

what

you asked what your should change i answered

[ebon token]

Well what should i get then

[young spoke]

idk about mice but the g502 is like 5 years old

how much is the logitech keyboard

[young spoke]

the g pro board is £70 from what i can see

look on aliexpress for an ak820 pro that’s definitely better

[ebon token]

80€

G502 hero was 40€

[young spoke]

ak820 pro off ali

[ebon token]

No

[young spoke]

why not?

it’s on amazon for like £80

[ebon token]

Alibaba is suspicious

[young spoke]

aliexpress

i’ve bought 100s of things off there

[ebon token]

Eh

Gigantti and jimms are good for me

[flat dock]

I have a g502 from 2016 and a $270 keyboard build so that tells what my priority would be

[burnt girder]

Looking for a new Keyboard and Mouse set up. Max 450$ CAD combined

[young spoke]

how much is it there

[fervent breach]

buy a realforce or hhkb

ur welcome

[flat dock]

ignore that guy

[fervent breach]

when did you end up trying topre for a bit

[flat dock]

I decided not to buy

[fervent breach]

YEAH

EXACTLY

SO DONT

SAY

TO IGNORE ME

MY RECOMMENDATION IS GOD TIER

TRUST ME MAN

[chrome mauve]

realforce looks nice and is nice, but is pretty expensive where I live

Keychron, Epomaker, Ducky, Leopold, Varmilo has some good ones

For Hall effect keyboards, Wooting, Keychron, Epomaker, Endgame Gear, Logitech, Corsair to name a few

For mice, you could try looking at ones from Logitech, Zowie, Vaxee, Pulsar, Glorious, Razer to see which one fits your preferred grip style and weight

[fervent breach]

yeah it’s cause they’re expensive boards

[chrome mauve]

I think it's a bit cheaper in Japan

[fervent breach]

depends on the board completely

although rf tend to be cheaper from japan

[chrome mauve]

the company is in Japan after all

[flat dock]

its not

[fervent breach]

how do YOU know bbaovanc

tell me that

[flat dock]

how do you know I'm not right

you've never tried my keyboards

[south vector]

Does anyone have a rec, for a good mic in the $150 or less range? I'm just using it for Dungeons and Dragons over Discord. I'm just looking to invest in a better setup in general.

Durability > Quality > Aesthetic

[chrome mauve]

Discord is pretty good at blocking out unwanted background noise, so a cheap $30 USB condenser microphone with a boom arm and shock mount will probably be enough, but for better recording quality (or stuff like in-game voice chat), you can look into getting a XLR microphone setup

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=shure+sm57
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UM2usb--behringer-u-phoria-um2-usb-audio-interface
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F6BWJYSY
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=xlr+cable

[south vector]

Thanks for the rec.

[south vector]

I'll def, think about the two options and see if it's gonna be worth it to spend the extra $ for the XLR setup

[balmy egret]

Is this logo from skypad also used at some point? I have seen more often the other one.
Also how should the surface feel?

[ebon token]

nos m600 gaming mouse what are yalls opinnion

[young spoke]

idek what that is

looks like a really expensive mouse pad

[worldly garden]

last person i knew here given actual "advice" was banned for ragebait

[fervent breach]

thocctober?

[worldly garden]

thocky keybopard

anyway

https://drop.com/buy/drop-gmk-lime-custom-keycap-set?defaultSelectionIds=973400

ugly nov but

[balmy egret]

Glass mousepad. Trying to figure out if it's a genuine one or noy

[young spoke]

glass???

that sounds terrible

[young spoke]

when sell

also anyone know where i can get a replacement of this switch

[worldly garden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867951767508365382/1117091340061257778/image0.gif

never

[young spoke]

tf did that keeyboard do

im going to hire a geoguessr player to find your location

[worldly garden]

sure

im buying a cool keyboard anyway

i welcome u guys to drop by and grab a coffee

and check out that

[boreal rivet]

this was the alt logo option they offered

[pallid ocean]

guys, PLEASE, i have a question
this has made me lose my mind for the past 5 months

I got a Razer Basilisk Ultimate

and in the latest months, the scroll wheel has started to really suck

scroll wheel skips and double detections

like i scroll by 1 step and it's scrolls by 2 steps

sometimes it even scrolls the other way

the only way i managed to kind of fix it was by setting the resistance to the max

and then my friend (who has a Lancehead Wireless) told me his scroll wheel has started to act weirdly too

[balmy egret]

Thank you. Think $40 cad is a fair price? Do you have any experience with this brand?

[boreal rivet]

for 3.0 yeah

they rebranded to wallhack recently

heard 4.0 is really good but I don't have any experience with it

[balmy egret]

Suppose I might as well try it out. Never had a glass pad.

[young spoke]

i just bought lube for £7

deserved for charging £7 for lube

[peak scroll]

I'm debating over beast x mini pro worth the 2x price of a scryrox v8?

[young spoke]

idk probably not

[hushed sigil]

Hello everyone, just got here.
I'd like to look for a(n optimally wireless) keyboard with (next to) no sound, 100/95%, RGB is optional (but more preferred) and optimally black/dark. I'm not sure if I could do this under 60 (max. 100) USD/EUR.
I would appreciate either keyboards or sites worth checking out. European (Hungary) shipment is mandatory.
Thank you in advance!

[flat dock]

you didn't show the switch at all or describe it so good luck

[young spoke]

that is the switch

[flat dock]

all that shows is it has a white milky bottom housing

[young spoke]

the little grey box

[flat dock]

Is that like a dip switch or something

how do you use it and what does it look like

[young spoke]

it’s a switch like this

[flat dock]

good lukc replacing it

you need hot air or maybe can do it with a soldering iron if you're lucky

[young spoke]

i’m gonna solder it on

[flat dock]

That would be advisable

[snow socket]

The Rode Podmic is what I use. Pretty great for 100usd. It would need an audio interface though if you don’t have one, so that might hit above your budget depending on the one you got.

https://www.amazon.com/Rode-PODMIC-Dynamic-Podcasting-Microphone/dp/B07MSCRCVK

[south vector]

I was researching that, but the issue is I'm from Linus land. I've been having trouble finding any of the major players here without it being double the price.

It does look like the Rode would be perfect though

Nothing on marketplace unfortunately

[snow socket]

Ah that sucks man, sorry

To clarify, the price sucks, not that you’re Canadian. Lol

[south vector]

Even the Blue Yeti is like $120 at Best Buy here lol

[snow socket]

Oh man

[south vector]

Without tax lol!!!

Oh my bad. $149.99

Even more ugh. So gross

[snow socket]

That’s tough man. The disparity in price always shocks me throughout NA. Post tariff apocalypse it’s even worse.

[south vector]

Yeah. It's always been bad. Low variety and higher cost.

But it's so shitty right now. I'll keep hunting though. It is what it is.

Thanks for putting it on the radar though. Maybe someone will sell on FB haha.

[snow socket]

Hopefully. I actually used to use some Hyper X stuff that was pretty quality. It was USB so no audio interface needed, and on the cheaper side, but I have no clue what pricing would be in CAD. Also was a bit more on the gamer-y side of things aesthetically, so idk if you care about that. Can’t remember the specific model though.

[maiden turtle]

Hi guys so, I need to know if I would be making a mistake by cancelling my order of the endgame gear op1w 4k and instead getting the zowie u2. I use a relaxed claw grip so I believe both should be good (and I have small hands) . Like i love how EGG does stuff but I worry the ttc silver scroll wheel will fail and i depend on the scroll wheel whilst gaming and not too.

[chrome mauve]

well they have different shape

[maiden turtle]

True

My current mad r is kinda between either so I am supposing it should be fine

[chrome mauve]

I think I'd prefer the shape of the u2 though

palm grip though

the egg one looks more like claw grip

[maiden turtle]

Yeah from what I could tell I have a relaxed/normal claw grip

And the u2 and op1 seem to cater to my style. Tho my concern is with the scroll wheel

Like the xm1 is kinda filled with reports of its scroll wheel jumping. Same with the op1 8k, haven't seen much with the op1w but considering it uses the ttc silver (which I have used before and had issues with)

[chrome mauve]

zowie/vaxee scroll wheels are quite defined yeah

[maiden turtle]

Yeah and zowie uses the optical stuff. Plus with the u2 considering they were to a 24 notch one it all looks gravy

It the only issue I see is. The u2 uses kailh whites for side buttons which are kinda hard to get (they are not full sized switches)

But ofcourse the op1w uses those failure prone scrolls from ttc

But in other ways including tech op1 is the better choice. Hence why the predicament.

[flat dock]

they lowered the price of that hhkb i saw on ebay to $120

[maiden turtle]

Yeah they had something insane happen with the keebs

[flat dock]

what

like just in general youre saying?

[worldly garden]

which is ?

[worldly garden]

theremingoat LOL

[boreal rivet]

Why not just buy it

Then sell if you don’t like it

[fiery sail]

(or return)

[boreal rivet]

Topre doesn’t lose value as easily as cheapshit flavour of the month

[flat dock]

I might

[flat dock]

why do you laugh

[worldly garden]

^

[young spoke]

i don’t care about it losing value bruh

i just want a keyboard that works and feels good

is that so hard of an ask

[fiery sail]

if you ask topre cultists, yes it is

[young spoke]

real

just give me an lk67

[fiery sail]

idk buy one then?

why do you even need more keyboarsds? dont you have like 10 xD

[boreal rivet]

Nobody was talking to you buddy

[young spoke]

no one’s talking to you?

[young spoke]

no i have 4

[boreal rivet]

? Did I hallucinate your reply to my message that wasn’t directed towards you?

[young spoke]

i’m not talking to you at this moment right now

so shut up

[boreal rivet]

[fiery sail]

and is it more of a collectors thing or is there like a blind spot you want covered that your other boards cant do?

[young spoke]

yes

all 4 are necessary

one is a 60%

one is a 65% wit silent switches and is bluetooth

one is a 75%

the 60% is for modding

the 75% is just a good board

and i have another 60% i need to solder new switches onto

[fiery sail]

and what shall the new board do that the others cant?

especially since you are considering a similar size

[young spoke]

wdym new board

i’m not getting a new keyboard

[fiery sail]

↑

interpreted it that way 😄

[young spoke]

no

[worldly garden]

no u want a cheap keyboard

[young spoke]

price doesnt mater

[worldly garden]

they work, yes but good...i have doubts

[worldly garden]

woah thats new from my dude

[young spoke]

if an lk67 was like 100 id still get it

it fits my needs

[worldly garden]

i have this

usually went for 850

now i will sell them for 400

@young spoke

fits all ur hell of a need because they are bigger layout than all ur keyboard

[young spoke]

nah im good

[young spoke]

thats a negative

[worldly garden]

see

cheap matters

[young spoke]

no it doesnt?

if i needed that specfic keyboard i would pay 400 for it

[worldly garden]

if u specific need that keyboard i will sell it for 450

[young spoke]

nah im good

[worldly garden]

cheap matters, mister vauxhall

[young spoke]

no it doesnt

none of my keyboards are even especially cheap

to me cheap is like sub 30

[worldly garden]

cheap fyi iss sub 200

yawn

[young spoke]

what

30-150 is mid range

[worldly garden]

ask any enthusiasts around...

200-600 is "mid range"

[young spoke]

anything above that is high end imo

maybe a mid range car but not a mid range keyboard

[worldly garden]

maybe a bit lower

[worldly garden]

"mid maintenance cost"

lol

[young spoke]

keyboard enthusiasts when you dont want to spend 1000 on a keyboard

you genuinely sound like sim racers

[worldly garden]

keyboard enthusiast when u give actual advice, is a bit pricey and they got mad

kekw

[young spoke]

what is your wisdom then

[worldly garden]

my widsom is sell all your shitbox and opt for one, single good keyboard

i mean it man

[young spoke]

ok but what if i need another 2 keyboards for other things

all 3 of the keyboards i use have different purposes

one keyboard cant do all 3

[worldly garden]

list it again man

[young spoke]

what

[young spoke]

wdym list it again

[worldly garden]

what was ur needs

@young spoke

[young spoke]

i have a 60% for typing japanese characters

hence japanese keycaps

i have a 75% for general use at my desk

and a 65% with silent switches for work

[worldly garden]

so just do a 75% with silent switches and japanese sub legend keycaps ?

i thought u need 1 mx 1 alps 1 EC

lol

[young spoke]

because

i have the 60% for that specifically

i also like the look of my aifei v3 keycaps

and i cant put silents in there because its too big to take to work

and it sounds good anyway why waste it with silent switches

all 3 costed over 60 pounds in total

[worldly garden]

?

[young spoke]

its a 75%

a 65% is barely small enough to take

[worldly garden]

just buy more switches lol

is like cents for one....

[young spoke]

no its like physically too big to fit in my bag

or desk

[flat dock]

the 4 keyboards probably only cover like 10% of the spectrum because all "mainstream" keyboards are like identical for some reason

[young spoke]

nah

[forest pebble]

I disagree as well (I have keyboards in the 2 digits number)

At least not in the custom keyboard sense, but to me in time mainstream board changes enough to have more than 10% of the spectrum in 4 board

Unless you buy 4 board a month

But in the end it's mainly dependent on what you choose to purchase tbh

[fiery sail]

also sometimes you just know that some parts of the spectrum are just not for you at all.

no need to even try and attempt for 100%

[fervent breach]

i want an alps board

although i know nothing about alps pretty much

so

[fervent breach]

i wish it was more common to see alternative switches

(anything not mx)

[tame creek]

How bad are wireless keyboards?

[chrome mauve]

very good

[bitter oar]

works, not bad if you don’t pick junk

like some office $5 keyboard

[worldly garden]

so better learn about it before being fomo'd by whales

[fervent breach]

in 2018, i was typing on my wireless keyboard when the battery overheated and blew my hand off

cannot recommend them after that..

[fervent breach]

JoeKay

[worldly garden]

alps clones is fine price but if u wanna look for non clone alps they will be expensive

thats all i know

[fervent breach]

is it something i can desolder and put it in another board

or is it like

[worldly garden]

yes

is like vints

[fervent breach]

oh epic

[worldly garden]

it literally vints yk

[fervent breach]

true

what would u say is a good tactile

alps

or linear

[worldly garden]

taihao alps my beloved

[fervent breach]

Vint alps

[worldly garden]

they are like 5 quid a piece

if u have that kind of money

[fervent breach]

yeah i’m just gonna steal

joke

[worldly garden]

buy taihao

[fervent breach]

£5 a switch is Insane though

yeah i think i want to

wait @worldly garden surely not

can’t i just harvest a vintage alps board

[worldly garden]

🤷

those are harvested

[fervent breach]

it would be cool to put like

all the different alps colours on the top row

of a tkl

[worldly garden]

i dont know much about alps than you

so sure

u need an alps compatible pcb and u can put it in modern keyboard kit

[fervent breach]

very cool

seems to be less common than topre

[worldly garden]

yeah

more effort to make those alps boards works tho

alps = louder clickies

[boreal rivet]

Skcm green is the most sought after

[fervent breach]

i see

is it tactile?

[fervent breach]

sony bke is a big deal in topre world too

that’s cool

[boreal rivet]

It’s basically 55g bump but with solid bottom out and a lower weighting

[fervent breach]

interesting

[boreal rivet]

I would just get skcm orange

Different enough from topre to be worth it

And it’s not that difficult to obtain

Alps linears are not that good

Unless you’re one of those soundbaters

[fervent breach]

dude i daily topre

i am not a soundtard

[boreal rivet]

I did not imply you were one

[fervent breach]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-cat-cat-knife-cat-knife-cat-angry-gif-9404759922388476738

[tame creek]

Alrighty then

[urban tusk]

was it a royal kludge

[boreal rivet]

Those are omrons

[urban tusk]

<@&750150305383186585>s

i didnt actually mean to ping a mod

that was swift

[worldly garden]

RK61 LOL

[maiden turtle]

I am not entirely versed in the issues but, there was like a ton of software issues with it and like kinda shoddy spacebar.

[sage vigil]

Hey guys Uhm Im thinking abt buying a Akko m1 v5/ tmr which one would you suggest and which switch? please with an explanation

[surreal palm]

just got the new pulsar mouse in. its my first fingertip mouse but im loving it so far

[fervent breach]

oh come on man

half the mouse is missing

[surreal palm]

half the mouse twice the price

[fervent breach]

it’s expensive?

why even

[surreal palm]

its an ultralight fingertip mouse design with 8k polling that was essentially designed by comittee as pulsar labs first product

[fervent breach]

its really stupid man

love to say it

[surreal palm]

lol not for everyone i guess

[urban tusk]

I like light mice but does that actually make a difference in how you use it day to day?

Nice setup though

[surreal palm]

idk im not really an ergonomics guy and i dont work with computers i just play on them and thats whgat its for

i would say pick up a fingertip design mouse at a store sometime and see if you like it

its only suitable for a specific type of grip so if you palm the mouse then of course it makes no sense\

[surreal palm]

another shot so you can better see the shape

[vale jungle]

Now that's a nice uhh

Crous?

Car?

Rat?

Ratrod

Yeah ratrod

[surreal palm]

lol yea that works i describe it as a bobbed mouse but im not sure if thats widely known term i only know it from the truck modifying world

[sage vigil]

Hey guys Uhm Im thinking abt buying a Akko m1 v5/ tmr which one would you suggest and which switch? please with an explanation

[urban steppe]

Do yall have any good gaming budget peripherals?

I don't mind if it's simple or not

[surreal palm]

whats the budget

@urban steppe

[urban steppe]

Honestly, around 10-30 bucks for mouse n keyboard seperated

I don't need em to be overkill or anything, just something nice to work with

[surreal palm]

in that price i would go with something wired for the mouse you can find a lot of options there that will perform

unless you mean 30 each then just get a cheap logitech in a shape you like

and you can get a redragon keyboard in the 30 dollar range those are decent in my experience

@urban steppe

[urban steppe]

Okay, thanks a lot for the help

Will put those into consideration

[young spoke]

they really pulled a porsche dang

[worldly garden]

pulsar911

[boreal rivet]

he's referring to the gulf livery

[tepid bobcat]

looking to upgrade from deathadder essential any leads under 2000 inr

[rocky lance]

Do you stricly use it for gaming or do you also use it for general computer tasks aswell? It seems like it would get fairly uncomfortable after a few hours

[lucid stone]

Anybody know about the HEX80 and thoughts?

[worldly garden]

good

best of all worlds

get them

[lucid stone]

What’s fishy to me is that all the reviews say the exact same thing

Sort of like they’re following a paid script

Seems like they could only afford so many sponsors and maybe the big ones haven’t dropped yet

[reef sparrow]

Is this where tables fall under aswell

[lucid stone]

Regardless I ordered one and it’s coming in a month

[main narwhal]

qk popular right now

[worldly garden]

if u have already ordered it there wont be no concern

what u gonna do if u find out that keyboard sucks ?

nothing, it is alr delivered

[forest pebble]

Qwertykeys has a good track record of making good affordable custom keyboards, no idea about how good is the software for hall effect stuff. What are you going to put in it?

[young spoke]

i lubed

rate the lubed stabs

[worldly garden]

if u ffind sound inconcistency u better check it again

left shift for exaple

[lucid stone]

Sent the message before ordering

[lucid stone]

I think I’ll keep it stock, maybe switch out the keycaps

I’ll switch the HE switches if needed or new better ones come out

[fervent breach]

aw man that’s atrocious

[young spoke]

yeah that’s the only thing i noticed

right side is a bit dodgy

i’ll line the housing with some milk lube

[young spoke]

when sell gmk67

bro just completely blanked me

[fervent breach]

when you buy a topre keyboard

[young spoke]

bruh

gib gmk67

[forest pebble]

linear gang ?

[young spoke]

nah

fuck you 45g spring akko v3 cream blue pros better

[forest pebble]

i was not insulting

[young spoke]

ktt matcha > any linear

[forest pebble]

i like matchas but i would not agree 😄

[young spoke]

i don’t even lube my tactiles

they don’t need it

tactiles are better stock

[forest pebble]

depends on the switch, but yeah not bad stock

but a good hand lube is still best*

[young spoke]

no

no lube at all on tactiles

[forest pebble]

depends where, depends what, +to each their preferences

[surreal palm]

@rocky lance i use it for all tasks and i like it so far. i didnt think it would make much a difference but after extended gaming on it i went to use my logitech and just could not its one of those things where you dont know what youre missing out on til you try it

in other news i did the dumb thing and built the keyboard for all of you out there with more dollars than sense. i just need two more of the periodic table keycaps to show up and i need a heavy space bar switch cause 67g wasnt enough

i think this keyboard weighs as much as the cheap desk it sits on

[worldly garden]

what keyboard is this

[surreal palm]

its the keycaps that are stupid expensive its keychron q12 with awkeys allk metal keycaps

then i put durock silent shrimps in it and now i need to come up with a silent switch for the space bar in the 80-100g area

right now im looking at grabbing the gateron aliaz silent 80g switch if anyone has recommendations on the heaviest silent switches im all ears

[forest pebble]

Ah yes another channel 😁, you could get yourself some switch opener and a bag of 100g springs

[surreal palm]

hadnt crossed my mind but i knew that was a choice thanks i will maybe do that

lol just saw your an sffpc head

[forest pebble]

Small box gang

[forest pebble]

Large screen, small case 😁

[surreal palm]

very nice. i have a debilitating fixation with noctua colors so i had to stuff as many into a terra as is physically possible https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1397740934766002257

@forest pebble

[forest pebble]

Ah ah yeah I see that you have a noctua obsession

If just have two nf A12 25mm on top on my t1

[surreal palm]

oh yea all those extra fans amount to nothing its purely an arts and crats project

[forest pebble]

I used to have an ID cooling is-50x v3 plus a chroma black A12 15mm but performance was not enough so I swapped for a thermal right axp90-53 full copper

[surreal palm]

i run it open air anyways b ecause i want to look at that motherboard all the time im very proud of my little nvme fan mod

[flat dock]

bros a noctua salesman

[forest pebble]

Maybe look into xtia and other open air cases for next build 😁

[surreal palm]

ive had the geek rhino in my cart for a while. im planing on picking one up when noctuya drops the AIO

[flat dock]

E

[pallid pasture]

does anyone here use vertical mice

[young spoke]

i would if they made ones with multiple side buttons

most i’ve seen is 3

i need like 6 minimum nowadays because of how useful 12 button mice are

[pallid pasture]

what in the hell do you need that for

[young spoke]

this

[pallid pasture]

im thinking of buying the logi lift, ive been having very little but consistant pain in my wrist
its stupid but when i watch movies or yt on my pc i like to hold my mouse so i can switch video or open chats easier so having a mice that would mitigate that would be nice

and ive been playing more story games so i do think i wont notice the less accurate clicks tough i wont be throwing the one i am using now away

[young spoke]

fair

for games like gta online having like 50 buttons on the side of your mouse is pretty useful

[pallid pasture]

i think ill be fine if i kept my superlight but i would rather be too safe with health related things if that makes sense

[young spoke]

i like being able to use the arrow keys on the side of my mouse instead of my keyboard for shit in game

[pallid pasture]

im thinking of 3d printing a holder for the superlight

the one thing that i want from the razer mice a holder that also charges would be nice

[young spoke]

a mouse won’t destroy your hands lmao

unless you use ir 18 hours a day

[pallid pasture]

i know im not that glued behind my screen but i do have some hours on it a day

[main narwhal]

there's like a cheap chinese one that sells for like 20-30 with 5

[pallid pasture]

thanks.. the one time i decided to use this thing

[flat dock]

It changed to Monday its over

[bitter oar]

make sure it’s not built like shit, which sensor model and mcu does it have?

[bitter oar]

is one needed?

a lot of them tend to be heavy and can diminish the gains for some people you get from the more natural angle of your hand

[main narwhal]

it's from china lol, it's probably goin be bad

i use one at the office

[bitter oar]

if it’s no name then avoid it like chewed gum on the ground

[main narwhal]

a logitech such and such

[main narwhal]

this thing bananas lol

[autumn rock]

Can i get some help with this? Will this keycaps set work on an ISO nordic Layout? It has the big enter button but i dont know.

[flat dock]

Probably not, does it have options for extra sets for other languages?

[fervent breach]

you’ll need a specific set or have to mix and match caps with different legends

u should just get a different keyboard imo

[autumn rock]

no its just this one, i cant find a keycaps set with like jelly white keycaps that fits with ISO layout

[fervent breach]

this isn’t an issue with topre keyboards btw

[flat dock]

isn't this a way bigger issue on topre than mx

because lower keycap selection

[flat dock]

Are these ones ceramic? Or are they just white plastic? And what's your budget?

[fervent breach]

you always get good keycaps

and also there is a lot of iso sets

And also if there’s a topre set it will fit your board

[flat dock]

almost none compared to MX fr

[fervent breach]

there is a surprisingly large selection

plus we have dynacaps soon

[flat dock]

What, do you think MX keycaps aren't universal

[fervent breach]

although they can get expensive

[fervent breach]

i see a lot of mx keyboards with unusual layouts you’ll never find keycaps for

like in early mx days with nonstandard bottom rows

early as in early custom

[flat dock]

it's a completely meaningless suggestion

[fervent breach]

also it’s harder to find good mx keycaps imo

[autumn rock]

im not sure, looks like plastic. But its keycaps like this i want

[fervent breach]

the topre part was a joke

i think he should get a different keyboard if he wants to replace caps

[flat dock]

my brain hurts

[autumn rock]

it says ABS

[flat dock]

idk keycaps like that

it has like a clear shape around it?

[autumn rock]

yea its like a layer around it

[fervent breach]

abs is cheap typically and shines fast

i wouldn’t buy

[flat dock]

just stop

[fervent breach]

also this looks dogshit

no irony

[autumn rock]

no

[fervent breach]

what no

[fervent breach]

that is literally true info

😭

[autumn rock]

nuh hu

[flat dock]

We will see what's so great about topre on Monday

[worldly garden]

hello keybaord enthusiats of ltt !

[fervent breach]

HOW was that related to topre

we’re talking about keycap material

[flat dock]

you made it related to topre

am I crazy

[fervent breach]

how

genuinely how

you are crazy

i said abs is cheap and shines fast

[worldly garden]

baovan is buying a topbruh ?

lets go

[flat dock]

you literally said to buy topre keycaps instead of finding an iso compatible keycap set

[fervent breach]

noe

[fervent breach]

no i didn’t 😭

[flat dock]

and then blanket response to not buy abs which doesn't really make sense

most pbt keycaps on the cheaper end have abs mixed in and shine even faster than pure abs

[autumn rock]

I want to build my own keyboard but dont know where to start, or even if i should

[worldly garden]

pbt is abs

abs is abs

[fervent breach]

it makes sense man

get good keycaps

[flat dock]

good abs keycaps:

[fervent breach]

then don’t get cheap pbt 😭

[fervent breach]

they are the same as cheap abs for the most part

i have 2 sets of “good abs”

[flat dock]

you can also not get cheap abs

[fervent breach]

Hence why i said what i just said

[flat dock]

what did you do to them

[worldly garden]

Günter Meinhardt Kunststofftechn

[fervent breach]

Type on them

[flat dock]

acid fingers

[fervent breach]

no

[worldly garden]

if you are not type on Günter Meinhardt Kunststofftechn dont talk to me situation

[flat dock]

even supposedly good pbt sucks sometimes

[worldly garden]

is alright, lets start now

what is your budget ?

and what are your needs

[fervent breach]

good pbt is good

[flat dock]

good abs is good

plus it sounds more transparent

[worldly garden]

anything but cerakeys

[fervent breach]

in my honest opinion when it comes to cheap mx ewaste boards the keycaps are way more important than the keyboard

[worldly garden]

dude look if u buy a ewaste board will u care to buy proper keycaps ?

not at all

they all want it to look good

[fervent breach]

Yes

[worldly garden]

and their good definition is kinda odd iwould say

[fervent breach]

my bad for giving advice man

😭

[worldly garden]

paiting tester 68 with gmk striker r1

[flat dock]

good means pudding keycaps

[worldly garden]

yeah man next time keep shilling topre

<33

[flat dock]

dude has 33 aortas

[worldly garden]

^

found a neo87 wk today, rare ass congif board but too expensive

[autumn rock]

hmm i dont really have a budget i dont know how much it usually cost for a custom keyboard but like $200-$300 maybe but if thats to low i can work it out

[worldly garden]

2-300 quid wwill wwork !

what do u want it to be

your desire layout, kind of switches, sounds, etc

will u prefer to build it ot buy a prebuilt, buy it new or used ?

[autumn rock]

hmm is there any prebuild that is easy to mod in the future?

[fervent breach]

dude i’d recommend you topre

but i am gonna get crucified by the ltt mx horde

[flat dock]

99% chance they are not really gonna appreciate it

[worldly garden]

every prebuilt will have potential to mod in the future

[worldly garden]

dont burn in the process...

i will not try topre until im done experiencing mx man

[fervent breach]

yeah because topre sounds Horrendous until you actually buy one

[worldly garden]

alot of people told me to do so

lol

[fervent breach]

brother will try topre at the age of 70

with 200000 mx keyboards

and be like

Fuck

[worldly garden]

nahh nahh

hell im not a whale

if i am then sho s60 on the way !

[autumn rock]

and i want it to be Ansi layout with either 65% or 75% keyboard

[flat dock]

how long am.I gonna last before I decide I want to buy silencing rings

[worldly garden]

75% is like normie layout imo, but do u prefer it more than 65 %

[fervent breach]

get a leopold fc660c

Aughhh

[flat dock]

stupid delivery got delayed because it was supposed to come today

[fervent breach]

get out of my head

[worldly garden]

buy me a seneca buddy

[flat dock]

It is a professional 2

[worldly garden]

i will try topre as your wish

[fervent breach]

i’d rather kill myself

genuinely

[worldly garden]

🤷

your loss man

[fervent breach]

what date

[worldly garden]

201x ah date

[flat dock]

Like 2015 I think

[fervent breach]

and is it modded

[flat dock]

I forgot

[fervent breach]

it would be a loss of going to uni lmfao

[flat dock]

It's stock

[fervent breach]

ok u chose quite well

my first topre was a 2015 pro 2 bur modded

[worldly garden]

buying ftermarket modded topre is hella...odd

[fervent breach]

for me it was a bit underwhelming because a stock case modded pro 2 is lowkey horrendous

[flat dock]

Its either 2015 or 2017, I got confused which listing I picked

[worldly garden]

some wont meet your expectations

[flat dock]

its the black model though which looks a little worse

[fervent breach]

yeah especially modded pro 2s

if i ever mod a pro 2 it’s to put it in a sho case

[worldly garden]

what do you think of agar EC or agar mini ec

[fervent breach]

show me

[fervent breach]

too skinny

i don’t like the design language

[worldly garden]

preferences... i love those curves

agar mini even have a fullc opper variation

[fervent breach]

also it doesn’t support oem ec

so it’s kinda mid

[autumn rock]

hmm i dont relly know i like em both but maybe 65, i think i like it more

[worldly garden]

130 ish $

[worldly garden]

yeah and about sound wised ?

[flat dock]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/306404578450

[worldly garden]

charocal ftw

[flat dock]

I think the white looks more iconic

[worldly garden]

u will buy aftermarket caps anyway

[flat dock]

but case is black

Why aftermarket caps

[autumn rock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wxaNqIBZME something like this, what they call "Thock"

[flat dock]

I should buy a micro b to USB c adapter so I don't have to use the dumb cable it comes with

[worldly garden]

lewis toh T-T

[autumn rock]

or like more creamy but NOT Clicky

[worldly garden]

gents should i give this guy a mode board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0ZaLOCVk7o

how bout these mulla

is my ( and most people ) preferences right now

clacky they say

[flat dock]

Linear or tactile switches?

[worldly garden]

thocky in big 25 hmm

[fervent breach]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[worldly garden]

there isnt any new noticing thocky switches now

[flat dock]

bro needs to just buy my gem80

[worldly garden]

u were right give him a fucking topre LOL

dawg no advertising

specs ?

[flat dock]

I'm not gonna sell it

I just wish I bought a neo80 instead

[worldly garden]

iff u try a neo87 u wwould wwish to buy that insstead off neo80

[autumn rock]

i like it but i want it more smooth, i dont what a big clicky sound but a samll one

[worldly garden]

iss literally f1 clone

[flat dock]

Stock my gem80 sounds exactly like the video though

[fervent breach]

should’ve got an rf 87u

[flat dock]

no

[fervent breach]

i am lowkey predicting you’ll hate the pro 2 at first

[flat dock]

I'll have to buy silencing rings

that'll be the end of it

[fervent breach]

please don’t open it

if you want silenced topre do not open it because it’ll make it just Worse

[flat dock]

how

[fervent breach]

if i were to recommend you a silenced topre board it’d be a silenced steel plate r1

[fervent breach]

idk

my unopened pro 2 sounds and feels 10000x nicer than my opened counterpart

same with my pro 1

they get better with age

[flat dock]

did you open the opened one yourself, and did it sound fine before opening

controlled experiment

[boreal rivet]

dude is tripping

[fervent breach]

no it was before i was enlightened lowkey

i bought it pre modded

[flat dock]

Topre sounds even scratchier than MX tactile which is wild

[fervent breach]

i’m really not

i have heard a lot of people say that

[worldly garden]

matrix corsa build with vertex v1

[boreal rivet]

lots of trippers huh

[worldly garden]

and a set of crp r4 keycaps

should be 2-300 ish

[flat dock]

What does it sound like after opening

what changed

[fervent breach]

to be fair i think the main issue you get when you open a hhkb is the stabs just sound/feel shittier

i would open a pro 1 to lube the stabs

but i feel like you gotta lube the stabs or it’ll just make it a worse bosrd

[boreal rivet]

nothing

[flat dock]

oh I don't want a hoard coming after me

maybe I should open it

[fervent breach]

Yeah he’s right the sound completely goes away

It speaks only in silence

[flat dock]

well then I have to find out for myself

[boreal rivet]

nothing changes

[fervent breach]

i would say if you wsnt to experiment

[boreal rivet]

the variables all stay the same when you reassemble it

[fervent breach]

use it stock for a week while u wait for silencing rings and lube to arrive

[flat dock]

Mr topre forgot a screw when reassembling

[fervent breach]

and then open it and mod it

[autumn rock]

What layout do u like the most @worldly garden ?

[flat dock]

I have lube

[fervent breach]

stab lube?

[flat dock]

oh no only 205

[fervent breach]

i annnot diamond lee but i think these suck

[flat dock]

I don't have dielectric grease or whatever

[fervent breach]

that is fine

[worldly garden]

lol

65% non blocker

[flat dock]

💎

[worldly garden]

i will cop a tkl

🍋

[fervent breach]

i don’t like “compact” layouts like that much

[autumn rock]

what layout du u like?