peripherals

[fervent breach]

2 dollars

[worldly garden]

Close enough try again

[fervent breach]

4

[worldly garden]

1200

[fervent breach]

https://buyee.jp/mercari/item/m34465850245?conversionType=Mercari_DirectSearch

this listing scared me

turns out its jusst an r3

[ocean coral]

Helo humans

I need chair

[fervent breach]

what the FUCk

WHY

[ocean coral]

Preferably under $900

Chair for gayming

[fervent breach]

any office chair that is labelled ergonomic

watch review videos and then buy

[worldly garden]

Herman miller

[worldly garden]

I dont know

[fervent breach]

i hate the mx crowd a little

like the caps dont even fit

not to mention thecaps are just Hideous

IOh my god

[worldly garden]

Thats the alt caps not a caps lock caps

Lol

[fervent breach]

its honestly kinda weird how loved metal cases are

they arent thatb ig of adeal

[worldly garden]

They are

If not then otd wont boom

[young spoke]

keycaps coming sometime this century

[fiery sail]

feel ya

[young spoke]

we aren’t all rich god damn

[worldly garden]

Nice

[young spoke]

i really take amazon next day delivery for granted

[fiery sail]

90 bucks 🥺

[worldly garden]

I will cop a keyboard to girft ny sissy

[young spoke]

even like 3 day delivery being the amazon standard like 10 years ago

[fiery sail]

as long as its within 5 workdays

its fine

[worldly garden]

U buy 90$ keycap from epoopmaker ?

[fiery sail]

like if i order on the weekend i want it within the next week

but not 10 days and the tracking number doesnt even work yet bc its not in shipping

i honestly might cancel since i dont need silent switches anymore

[young spoke]

silent switches are great wdym

i might try making a silent KTT matcha

[fiery sail]

well they were so my GF could sleep at night

whom i broke up with a few hours ago xD

[young spoke]

what happen she die or something

[young spoke]

dang

bro really got a rebound keyboard

get some box jades now

[fiery sail]

nah im back on my rubberdome and in contrast tto the wooting, the 65€ one was actually good and i hate my old one already

also its probably wise just for the future to have the silent switches

i can still order standard switches if i dont like the silents

[young spoke]

yeah

it’s epomaker so i believe they’re sea salts

those are decent silent switches

the only thing i don’t like is the mild scratchiness

better then using a laptop keyboard though

[fiery sail]

i will see and i also got the 2 outemu 10 packs to test if i liek them more

[flat dock]

I didn't like the epomaker sea salt, they somehow made a linear switch ticky

[ocean coral]

Chat can someone recommend me a crispy sounding mechanical keyboard for under 100 buckaroos because my keyboard spontaneously combusted

75% or tkl

[uneven shuttle]

The brightness adjustment works but it kills the saturation

neither lol it's an ips lcd but i guess it supports the input format

[fiery sail]

then its not actually HDR

without the ability to turn off pixels, a monitor isnt actually able to display actual HDR content, its more like an instagram filter that tries to mimic it

but essentially, black on SDR becomes dark grey, so dark grey becomes a slightly lighter grey and so on

[uneven shuttle]

sure but it looks noticeably better

[fiery sail]

on HDR black is actually black

or meant to be

[uneven shuttle]

i know what hdr does

[flat dock]

plot twist: nobody does

[fiery sail]

true tho xD

[flat dock]

I don't think that's required but I could be wrong. I thought you just need to hit a certain dynamic range requirememt. Which most monitors don't anyways but still

HDR is a scam

Just turn your brightness up

[flat dock]

maybe try the bridge75 or something. The standard recommendation for $100 and 75%

[bright patio]

Looking for a good 2 monitor. Want some that is good price to performance. My budget is around 1k

Right now i use LG - UltraGear 27” Nano IPS QHD 1-ms G-SYNC Compatible Monitor with HDR - Black

[fiery sail]

for the technical HDR certificate, thats true, but most people call that "fake HDR" bc its essentially jsut a filter.

the whole point of HDR is that unlike SDR you can actually display black so balck doesnt become grey, grey becomes light gray and therefor dark green becomes medium green (a bit overexaggeratted, its just minor differences)
and the difference between true and fake HDR is like 10x as much between SDR and fake HDR

fake HDR just shifts the colours to look more contrasty and vibrant

but thats just liek a camera filter and could basically be done by shifting settings in any monitors OSD

not by actually displaying colours differently

like the way SDR can differenciate bewtween a grey that is darker than the backlight and black is by making all colours brighter than they should be, there for reducing contrast, so u need to disable pixels to achieve true HDR

[flat dock]

that makes a lot more sense

since just turning up brightness would make the blacks brighter too

[fiery sail]

yeah and HDR should be less bright

as all the colours in SDR are shifted towards bright

which also further helps contrasts as when your eye is les overwhelmed with the sheer volume of light you can determine minor colour details better

[sturdy gazelle]

Anyone know anything about 3.5in FDD hardware emulators? Trying to get a Windows ME era machine back up and running after I won it in an auction without a hard drive and I'm looking at getting an Emulator instead of buying floppy disks for the dos boot disk.

[fiery sail]

bruh i wanna overcompensate so badly rn and get an OLED

[flat dock]

so oled users when they need HDR just turn up the brightness

:troll:

[fiery sail]

xD

[tender coyote]

anyone have a creative t100 speaker? I am looking to upgrade from the base creative pebble and the t100 looks to be a decent upgrade for someone who mostly watches shows/plays story-driven games

[nimble magnet]

Im looking at upgrading to an oled. Ive found these monitors today on amazon and im wondering which one i should get, or should i get something else, im looking for $600 or under. Im thinking either the LG or samsung.

Even though the LG is normally $899, im not really seeing any features that would make it worth that price, which is why im not so sure on which one to buy, even though its technically a more valuable monitor.

[red pendant]

anybody know a usb wifi antenna that works? i would do the basic research but its easier to get a recc here

just something for like 20 bucks idc

[ocean coral]

I’m looking for keyboards not bridges

[red pendant]

its the model name of the keyboard, unless you're joking idk

[fervent breach]

Buy a realforce

[bitter oar]

if you like actuation forces similar to tactile/membrane*

[fervent breach]

no

just Buy one

2025

[bitter oar]

yes, not everyone likes travel forces of topre

including me

[fervent breach]

realforce rc1 even

[fervent breach]

EVERYONE LVOES TOPRE

every single person ever likes topre

ur Lying

[bitter oar]

it still does not change it's travel forces

some people prefer just linear without any bump

or a sharp one

[fervent breach]

Change dome…

by the way i am joking to be clear

Well you can just change the dome but i was joking about topre being the ultimate solution

[bitter oar]

i ded

[fervent breach]

bro died

[bitter oar]

yeah but i don't think there's a totally linear dome

[fervent breach]

realforce gx1 is linear iirc

maybe i’m crazy

[bitter oar]

what about no dome at all ☠️

[fervent breach]

some dude in japan had a hhkb hg

and fucking removed the sliders and keycaps

and made tinfoil caps ONTOP of the domes

i guess it’s preference but what the Fuck

[fervent breach]

it might be their other weird gaming keyboard

i am Pretty sure a linear topre exists

preferring linear is kindof insane doe

[bitter oar]

the dome would have to be very weak/thin for it to be linear i think and instead a stronger spring

[fervent breach]

fun fact

conical spring does not contribute to feel in topre switch

it’s just for electrocapacitance

[fervent breach]

what if it was like

a skinny dome

like uhh

_
/ \

regular dome

[bitter oar]

oh didn't know i thought it did

[fervent breach]

_
||

Skinny dome

[fervent breach]

Not like mx!!!!

all the weight comes from the dome too

[bitter oar]

lol

[fervent breach]

bro just typing shit

[bitter oar]

e -- - -- dome

skinny

flat

[fervent breach]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[fervent breach]

well what would push up the slider

[bitter oar]

well, even if it's basicly nothing how much resistance does the string put still

[fervent breach]

What

[bitter oar]

the spring gets pushed down when you press the topre switch

how much g's does it put force agaisn't your finger

[bitter oar]

does the spring put like 5 grams of resistance when you press it?

or the dome support the spring instead, or neither

like this is about how topre spring looks like, so i assume when you press the switch down the dome isn't the only one pushing you back

also there are like spring swaps for topre switches to make them heavier?

[fervent breach]

nooo

the springs DO NOT MATTER

they probably add like 1g of force

so insignificant

all the replacements are domes

u can get very heavy or very light domes with different tactility domes and stuff

[bitter oar]

what if you put on a thicc spring

[fervent breach]

“bke style” domes are Very tactile

[fervent breach]

ur switch will feel like shit

[bitter oar]

what's the likelyhood of da electrocap switches not workin by putting a thicc sprin

[fervent breach]

probably 0

if it’s the same conical shape

[fervent breach]

and also sliders

sliders can change travel, smoothness and stuff

[last veldt]

Is the epomaker x aula f99 a good keyboard

[lusty forge]

Dawg wheres the mouse people

No one knows about mices here

I genuinely need a budget mouse

[bitter oar]

no logitek, no razer, no steelseries, no corsair especially, no big name brands

[bitter oar]

price?

[lusty forge]

Okay. Now which chinese brand do i get

[last veldt]

100

[bitter oar]

uhh for 15 usd i would get aj179 non v2 or something that features da cheap paw3395, no point going for like paw3950 i believe

measure your hand size, preferred grip style, watch for good build quality so no creeking or sensor rattle, switch grinding, no super plasticky feeling - should have atleast some coating that does not feel like lego

i don't know if you want spam-able switches or heavier tactile ones, look for good skates that glide and aren't friction master 3000

[bitter oar]

too much

[last veldt]

I realized it was 100% keyboard too so i chose the f75 75 percent keyboard for way cheaper too

[fervent breach]

buy a realforce

[bitter oar]

you can get some decent 100% foam boards from aliexpress for like 50, and aula f75 can be gotten off taobao for like 20 excluding shipping and customs, with those it would be more like 50, so not much cheaper than aliexpress but still they're not worth 50+ because in that range you can get aluminum 60-75%

and if you don't want aluminum there are still newer plastic options from the other brands, the aula is outdated

unless you get it cheap

[last veldt]

Dyk any 75-60 percent keyboards for cheap

[fervent breach]

hhkb pro 2

hear me out

https://buyee.jp/mercari/search?conversionType=top_page_search&keyword=hhkb

[bitter oar]

gotta put used before the kb

[fervent breach]

just look thru here until you find a cheap pro 2

Used hhkb pro 2

who cares about used in 2025

[bitter oar]

search for term "aluminum keyboard" on aliexpress

[fervent breach]

No

Please man

[bitter oar]

they're fine

[fervent breach]

hhkb pro 2 better

[bitter oar]

the 100 80 ones seem to be all sold

[fervent breach]

u can get ones for like

60-70

easily

although it can take a little bit of looking

[silk moat]

has anyone owned a set of corsair virtoso max's? https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/gaming-headsets/ca-9011372-ww/virtuoso-max-wireless-gaming-headset-carbon-ca-9011372-ww?
im wondering how they compete against the xt's
my type c port is starting to go out on my xt's and i think i can find a decent pair of max's for cheap

[flat dock]

its probably possible because I have a sample of aeboards raeds HE and they feel essentially linear

smaller than MX brown bump

[young spoke]

ak820 pro

like £40 75%

[bitter oar]

please don't buy

unless you don't care about getting mediocre build quality, really meh sound quality for the price

[silk moat]

i can get them for cheap

[silk moat]

@bitter oar any spefic reason for build quality? looks like its built the same way as the older xt virtuoso's

[bitter oar]

oh, old corsair headphones used to have plastic hinges, mechanism so that’s what i meant by mediocre looks like the recent virtuoso’s have mostly or fully metal hinges and mechanism so looks good

i would get something else for sound quality tho

[silk moat]

eh i dont give a shit about graphs...

i use my real speakers when it comes time to listen to anything that needs sound quality\

[bitter oar]

it’s not going to get any better without graphs

[silk moat]

just not intrested in snake oil
more instrested in how to sit on the head and all that compared to the xt's

[flat dock]

thats why graphs exist

[silk moat]

sounds much more crisp/warm when you say it like that kind sir

[silk moat]

no... its metal

[bitter oar]

the right in around the earpiece right

[silk moat]

i think the base model virtoso's are plastic though

[flat dock]

i shouldve specified which part i was replying to

just not interested in snake oil

[silk moat]

much warm response

[flat dock]

i

what

[silk moat]

but yeah @bitter oar im actually looking back on when i took these apart and the hindge does screw into the plastic mid frame
so plastic ish?

right earcup

the biggest thing iv hated about my headphones is how dogshit the icue software is

[bitter oar]

yeah so… better than nothing but still plastic, what about the adjustement mechanism

?

that one should definitely be made from something sturdier than plastic

[bitter oar]

yeah that is metal but what about the slits inside the headband

those tend to be plastic

[silk moat]

no clue

all i know is that they have not broken

[bitter oar]

if you’re curious, slide the adjustement 20 times and if you see plastic dust or chips then it’s probably plastic, it will get loose over time with use

[silk moat]

iv had these for 3 years
and have worn them for like 5k+ hours

iv only adjusted my headband like 40-50 times

[bitter oar]

fair

[bitter oar]

any plastik?

[silk moat]

nope but they might use non garbage plastic

[bitter oar]

i changed my bend they have solid bq

then

[bitter oar]

also well built

[silk moat]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226856071180?
granted this is how much they go for on ebay

[bitter oar]

what do you think of sennheiseros

[silk moat]

i want mic

heard nothing but bad stuff from there headphones with mics

[bitter oar]

dedicated is not an option right

or in-cable mic

[silk moat]

well thats why i bought wireless headphones?

i dont want somthing cluttering up my desk

computer sits on the carpet like a good lil boy too

and hopfully this doesnt get bid up much.

[bitter oar]

well, i don’t know of much budget 2.4ghz headphones, what about like g435 and g535 but those have temu toy level of build quality

but the sound from reviews is considered ok

[silk moat]

and same shitty software! ghub is the fucking bane of my existence

i finally got a good download after 2 full years of it randomly crash's and getting stuck in bootloops

[flat dock]

Imagine if no one bids and you get it for $23.05

[silk moat]

yeah that wont happen :(

but yaknow id be very lucky

but idk if my zmf earpads would fit on them

[pastel kestrel]

Chair recommendation?

[bitter oar]

try at different stores in person

if you’re looking for reviews avoid those that obviously shill all chairs so you buy through their affiliates

or ones that use ai voice

[silk moat]

test stuff in store and sit on them for more then 10 seconds
the foam will sink and alot of chairs just suck and you will be sitting on a legit plank of wood after the foam lose's all of its air

[pastel kestrel]

I cant go in store

[stoic snow]

I'm kinda having a hard time trying to find a decent keyboard and I kinda wanted to ask if I'm just being picky or if my requirements are like, somewhat sane. These are the parts I'm not willing to compromise on

• ISO layout
• No Amazon
• No DIY

Then these parts are more preferences rather than hard reqs.

• UK retailer/Based in the UK
• Really like the ThinkPad style of keyboard

[flat dock]

have you looked at keychron

they're generally the go to for needing special layours

[stoic snow]

I mean, at a glace, they only seem to do ANSI layout >_>

[flat dock]

Check keychron.UK if you're in uk

[stoic snow]

OHHHHHH, I see. Yeah, no, I'm just dum

[flat dock]

V max series is good if youre looking for like $100 or so

[stoic snow]

All of their main marketing images are for their ANSI keyboards but they do actually have ISO versions, I just need to select them on the product page 😅

[flat dock]

yeah there's an iso keyboards tab

[stoic snow]

I more meant looking on the US/default site phaha.

jfc, my DNS is so aggressive.

Er, got any tips on the different keystones?

[flat dock]

the different keyboard models?

[stoic snow]

switches!

That's what I meant

[flat dock]

oh

red is linear, brown is a small bump tactile, banana is a medium bump tactile

[stoic snow]

Yeaaaaaah, that means jack diddly to me.

[flat dock]

have you used any mechanical keyboards before?>

[stoic snow]

Er, I don't think so

Yeah, no

Most of my computing has been done on those cheapo £10/£15 OEM keyboards you can get, but like I did say, really like the ThinkPad keyboard

*Well, not you can get, the bundle ones that usually come with hardware

[flat dock]

im inclined to recommend the banana switches if youre used to membrane

i think they should be the closest to that sort of profile

[stoic snow]

Gotcha. Banana

[flat dock]

linear (red) just feels like a smooth travel, you press harder and it goes down farther; but this style seems to be most popular with keyboards in general

brown (light tactile) feels like theres a small notch in the middle when you press it down, so you can feel when it actually presses

banana (i dont have them but based on what ive heard) feels like a big, rounder bump that lasts most of the keypress

[stoic snow]

Oh, right. Honestly, it kinda sucks that there isn't just like a shop that I can go to that lets me trial a bunch of switches >_>

[flat dock]

you can probably try what red and brown feel like at most computer stores since that type of profile is what gaming keyboards generally let you choose between

[stoic snow]

ah, but no banana? I would assume that's branding specific to the Gateron Jupiters? Would they just be called yellows under another brand?

Yeah, the more I thought about it, the more I realised that PC shops (at least large retailers here) for the most part, only usually have laptops on demo that have chicklets and very rarely have full rigs

[flat dock]

no, yellow is generally a linear switch

banana is just whats considered a more generic tactile bump these days, but gaming keyboards are behind the curve i think

[stoic snow]

ahhh, fair enough

[flat dock]

under other brands they might just make up their own names

[stoic snow]

gotchaaaa, okay okay

[swift island]

any monitor snobs??? I know Plouffe owns a monitor, but I'm in the market now

my LG 38GL950G-B has finally bitten the bullet, I'm basically down between

this: https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-38wr85qc-w-ultrawide-monitor
and this: https://www.costco.com/lg-ultragear-39-oled-wqhd-curved-gaming-monitor-70-digital-credit-included.product.4000291842.html

I don't do a ton of gaming, but I do keep this thing locked at 175hz almost all the time

I'm quite partial to the 3840x1600 resolution that I have right now, so I'm not sure how the 39" ultragear would do for me at 3440x1440 (but how much of a difference does that really make)

I do mostly productivity and giant spreadsheets...I could go bigger on the screen but 38" is basically perfect for my desk right now

I also dual-wield systems with this display - macbook pro via HDMI during the day for work, gaming PC via DP at night

not sure if anyone has any thoughts about their own experiences...I'm also not super thrilled about OLED because of burn-in. I keep the same thing up for HOURS

my current display has a power on hours count of 21,820 hours as of sending this right now lol

[swift island]

fwiw I'm also seriously considering a Samsung Ark but that's also because I'm an insane person

[fiery sail]

cosidering burn in u might wanna check out the "burning in my OLED deliberately" videos from monitors unboxed, they recently did a 15 month update where they intentionally avoid anything that reduces burn in and use it for static content only, at least 8 hours a day.

still for me its one of the biggest downsides, even if it was next to no issue, its a damn expensive monitor and i dont want to think about its longevity and how i could improve it in the back of my head "oh no i had 5 mins of static content here where i should have turned the monitor off"
"oh no the HUD of this game is very static and big, i might get burn in from that "

[dense moon]

At least most companies provide 3 year burn in warranty

[fiery sail]

while thats true, burn in warranty =/= burn in warranty

like some require visible logos to see with task bar burn in and stuff

not just shades of grey or colours that are visible

and even then whats the resell value if im trying to sell mine after 3-5 years?

not even considering the text clreance on this very low ppi bob is aiming for

[dense moon]

No one would buy a used oled

[fiery sail]

i can right now find 109 people looking for used OLEDs

[dense moon]

I hope they are looking at oleds that are max 4 months old

[fiery sail]

ppl in my country (especially in used marketplaces) are dumb

[rotund falcon]

No one should, but they do

Unless you can verify the screen on time I wouldn’t

[dense moon]

I guess 60 hrs would be fine, but Id expect the price to be half the mrsp

[rotund falcon]

Half is a big steep, I’d say 75%

Half would be like $650 in a lot of cases

[fiery sail]

wtf are oled prices in the US xD

[fiery sail]

like here even the super expensive ones like the msi mpg ones barely get above 1k, the 321URX is even below 1k and thats taxes included

cheapest 4k OLEDs are 700

[swift island]

I’m not super concerned about OLED burn in, it’s just burn in in general. My current 38” IPS has massive sections that are burned in all of a sudden

[fiery sail]

what?

how

[fervent breach]

noob

[fiery sail]

since when do you have this?

99.99% its just image retention and should go away soon

especially if its all out of the sudden and really noticeable. IPS does not have actual burn in.
OLEDs have burn in because the LEDs are organic and degrade over time.
IPS can have issues that look similarly but its either image retention that is just temporary or some component liek a condensator has issues and that leads to problems with the pictures

22k hours is almost 3 years of 24/7 usage, so some problems are to be expected

[fervent breach]

Script Kitties

[swift island]

yea mostly this

[fiery sail]

when did it appear the first time?

[opaque hare]

I'm looking for an affordable mechanical keyboard say $80 CAD max. Something with mechanical switches (preferably red/silent). Ideally the keyboard is white. Any recommendations

Gaming-focused use

[fervent breach]

Realforce r2 for mac

[opaque hare]

Appreciate it I'll take a look I should specify looking for gaming-use

[fervent breach]

it’s actually not mechanical and i am just shilling topre

it’s electrocapative

also not for gaming

but it can be used for gaming really fine

also it is definitely not in your $80 budget

[opaque hare]

Yeah looking for someone on a budget haha - there like "I want something that isn't super loud and feels creamy but also on a budget lmao"

[fervent breach]

I’m sorry to be a loser but creamy is used to describe the sound of the board

[bitter oar]

yes, even lcds are susceptible to burn in

the leds can wear or burn out if the manufacturer was not smart about cooling

but more common is i believe the first backlight layer folding due to stress, less tension or heat

[swift island]

it also has dead pixels, I drove this thing a little too hard

Never turned it off and left it on the same screen for days/weeks

I killed it 100%

[bitter oar]

how many

[swift island]

Trying to modify my behavior lol

6-8?

looking at https://www.amazon.com/LG-39GX90SA-W-Ultragear-Compatible-DisplayHDR/dp/B0F15C7JL2
and https://www.amazon.com/samsung-oled-displayhdr-freesync-adjustable-ls49cg932snxza/dp/B0CDQMQQS2

wondering how much going from 1600 vertical resolution to 1440 will make a difference

pardon the extreme mess but this is the setup

i have my 9950x3d/5090 gaming rig connected to this display via a corning optical thunderbolt to Caldigit TS4 dock using DisplayPort, and my MBP is connected over HDMI

[bitter oar]

not that bad, that could be theoretically still within manufacturer's tolerance

but dead/damaged backlight probably isn't

[steel abyss]

nice deskpad

[swift island]

yeah if I can read the email that was on the screen when i put a big gray window on the screen it's a bad panel

[chrome raft]

guys

[golden harbor]

hi im looking for a 75 or 60 HE keyboard but i cant find one that does let my family members sleep during the night aka silent one. Anyone has any suggestion please? I recently bought an Attack shark X68 HE but sounds too loud even with doors closed. I even looked for silent HE switches and found some, like "milktooth Dove HE Silent Hall Effect Switch", "Glorious Lynx Silent Linear HE Switches" and "MATHEW Silent Magnetic Switch" but i would spend more than what my keyboard is worth and/some dont ship to EU. Any suggestion is appreciated, thanks

[empty ravine]

Hey guys, currently setting up my house so I can game on my living room TV whilst my PC is upstairs. Planning to route HDMI 2.1 and CAT6a cables. I will then use the CAT6a cables to connect up to Icron Raven 3104 for USB input. I was originally planning to connect the official Xbox dongle and connect up my 2 Xbox controllers and buy two additional controllers. Initial test looked promising but some very occasional missed inputs when testing has me slightly concerned. Also, the adapter gets very hot I worry about longevity.

Can anyone recommend a controller that I can buy 4 of (maybe more in the future) and connect them all to a single adapter that I can plug into the Icron? Distance from the Icron would be 2-3 metres max (more likely between 1-2m). Any help would be massively appreciated, thanks!

[brazen idol]

Hi everyone, I am sorry if my english is not the best, I am looking for a ergonomic office chair to buy. I am about 192cm tall (6ft3) and still a teenager so I will maybe grow a little bit taller. My budget is around 500eur to 600eur, looking on EU market. I need a chair that is comfortable (would prefer as less mesh as possible, at least the base) and high quality. I am a programmer and a gamer so i spend about 6 hours minimum in my chair, so long sessions are often. Thanks in advance 🙂

[young spoke]

these are the only silent switches i know of for HE

absolutely worth it though

[cinder oyster]

Anyone have the SteelSeries Arctis Nova 7? If so, would you recommend it?

My other option is Logitech G PRO X 2

[cloud forum]

Looking for a new 60% red switch keyboard, and suggestions?

Max 100$

[bitter oar]

don’t look for red switches, look for linears

[cloud forum]

Oh ok

[worldly garden]

neo60

[flat dock]

bro gets $20 to spend on switches and keycaps

This will not end well

[worldly garden]

5$ keycaps

15$ switches

kventinky will figure something out

[flat dock]

aifei + milky yellow pro

Oh right this is a 60% so $15 switches is totally realistic

Shipping though.. on both qwertykeys and milktooth (or whomever, if there's a cheaper seller for milky yellow pros which there is iirc)

[worldly garden]

mods

@lament thistle

[worldly garden]

he never state shippinh

[young spoke]

i just made a frankenswitch

a homoo sea salt silent spring

and the rest of an akko v3 cream blue pro

it’s a bit quieter and it’s a lot lighter then a stock cream blue pro

[worldly garden]

revert homoo sea salt silent

[young spoke]

lmao

its just putting a 50g spring in a tactile

i only made one so a sound test will be difficult

also the sea salt silent with the 60g spring sounds exactly the same as the 50g

my spacebar still feels kinda mushy after the mod i did

[fiery sail]

how do you exactly mod switches to be silent?

[latent panther]

lube, o-rings and foam

[young spoke]

not much you can do

most silent switches have a silent stem

[fiery sail]

oh now i get it

you didnt mod the switch to be silent but u modded the spring

[young spoke]

WHAT

caps lock moment

what

[fiery sail]

your frankenswitch

i guess i still didnt get what exactly u did xD

[young spoke]

the silent switches had a 50g spring

the tactiles had a 60g

i just swapped

[fiery sail]

yeah thats what i meant

not adding a spring

that "in" in the end is probably confusing xD

removed it

[young spoke]

the 50g spring made the tactile bump a bit lighter

and its slightly quieter

[fiery sail]

btw the new keyboard from epomaker just came and i can either destroy it or get 40% refund and keep it xD

[young spoke]

wait why

[fiery sail]

i wanted to return it

[young spoke]

i forgot what that was

[fiery sail]

bc i dont need a silent keyboard anymore

xD

[young spoke]

just swap the switches i guess

[fiery sail]

nah i got the other one still

[young spoke]

get the 40% refund to buy some good switches

[fiery sail]

got a friend who is very sensitive to sound

and she just has a terrible 5€ keyboard fro m5 years ago

and its not really quiet at all

[young spoke]

2 keyboards

ive got 3

[fiery sail]

same rn

1 mean 1 of them is terrible

xD

will keep it as a backup i ncase sth breaks

or a friend needs sth desperately or sth

[young spoke]

peak storage

[fiery sail]

some ppl play racing games on 3 16:9

some on a 1:1 monitor

xD

[young spoke]

yeah

24” 1440p on top

[fiery sail]

wut

[young spoke]

that’s a 24” 1440p monitor

[fiery sail]

oh but its portrait mode

?

[young spoke]

no

ignore my illegal ammo btw

[fiery sail]

oh just looked weird bc of camera angle and got cut off right at the top

btw the spacebar of the epomaker TH99 makes this metal, clingy hollow sound thats coming out of the centre of the spacebar

doesnt seem to be the switch

[young spoke]

thats normal for silent switches

other switches make that noise just not as noticeable

[fiery sail]

i swtiched their silent sea salts for outemu cream yellow silents and it got quite a lot better

[young spoke]

i typed all that without a spacebar keycap

[fiery sail]

why just spacebar tho?

its not from the stabilizers

also reversing the spacebar almost compeltely eliminates it

[young spoke]

my spacebar is the only key that has a screw under it

i was unscrewing my board

[worldly garden]

Casual ar15 user

[young spoke]

thats SA80 5.56

[fervent breach]

just get a topre monitor

[young spoke]

die die die die

[steel abyss]

no ltt screwdriver

tsk

[young spoke]

i ain’t spending £80 on a fucking screwdriver

i got that off my granddad for free

[cloud forum]

G920 worth it on sale for 200$?

Wanting to get into sim racing but don’t want to spend a fortune

[placid linden]

New deskpad

[young spoke]

you can get it used cheaper

[worldly garden]

Ur vauxhall in good hands indeed

[opal ocean]

apex pro tkl

[opal ocean]

is it good

[placid linden]

Yes, quality on par if not a bit better than my old Corsair deskpad

The surface is nice and smooth so there’s no weirdness when moving your mouse

[opal ocean]

theyre pretty cheap too

[fierce mango]

If I were to want to upgrade keebs, and I had $50 Amazon cash ($100 or close budget), what should I go with for QMK/VIA and 2.4gHz Wireless/Wired if not Keychron?

And if I'm right to be looking at Keychron, which model at that price range (US) would be ideal at the 75% size, ideally with a knob? Or am I just describing a single model?

[fiery sail]

aula f75 gets A LOT of praise

i'd personally look at reviews myself, since keyboards at that 50-100$ price mark can have very different features and sound profiles.
i would at least look up reviews on yt on the aula f75, and the ones you can find at your desired pricerange from epomaker and keychron

for epomaker i would first look at the GK81 and EA 75
for keychron the V, K and P series are the ones i would look up first, or Q, but that might be out of budget

on youtube my top 2 places for keyboard reviews are hipyo tech and switch and click.

[young spoke]

i genuinely cant recommend it

so many people have had battery issues

[fiery sail]

well, if you are using it wired 99% of the time, like i do, that would be not even on the contra list

thats why watching reviews urself is so important on products that depend SO much on indivdual needs and preference like sound, like its the case with keyboards

for some people, a keyboard that is usually terrible for 99% can be perfect for you

[fervent breach]

REALFORCE RC1

buzzword

[worldly garden]

Can send ya a vid of a malfinction aula rn

[worldly garden]

^

[fervent breach]

i’m shillmaxxing

[young spoke]

when are you listing the gmk67

[fervent breach]

probably when my realforce r1 arrives

because i will just reuse the packaging lmfao

[young spoke]

fair

when is that coming?

[vocal scarab]

is this good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq6qrn5BcXE&ab_channel=Veltro

[charred plank]

No chance you can just sell the Amazon gift card?

Cause needing to buy from Amazon is a big limiting factor

[fierce mango]

No, but the best deal I could get for the budget was there anyways

Sk75, 20% + $50 off

Totalled out to what I'd want to pay to replace a perfectly functioning keyboard, albeit as a pretty big upgrade

[charred plank]

Shame. Inky75 is nearly the same thing with better stock caps and switches for $69

But it's not available on amazon

[fierce mango]

Yeah

Maybe I'd have gone for that, but paying less for a keyboard with everything I could want in a stock build is decent enough

I already had the balance, it had just apparently sat there

I've had some weirdness regarding weight though

One source says the sk75 is 4.11 lbs, the other 2.4 or something

I'd think full cast aluminum with a weight and metal plate would probably be at that 4 pound mark if a pvc framed keyboard sits at 1.7

[fierce mango]

Also I checked that out.. It's like the same thing same thing

[charred plank]

Yea

It's basically the better version of the sk75

[fierce mango]

Are the internals even?

[charred plank]

There are two variants, one with a weight and one without

But the inky is the version with the weight

[fierce mango]

How so?

[charred plank]

So the better variant of sk75

And it has better stock switches and caps

[fierce mango]

Ah right

What kinds of switches are they?

I know the sk is the Womier switches, but unless the Inky uses KTT Red Wines (which are my dream switches) I won't be too hurt

[charred plank]

Inky uses hmx matcha buttermilk's. Imo, they're literally the best feeling and sounding stock switch I've heard.

I like my hand lubed switches more though

[fierce mango]

Those are cool, though yeah I'd definitely want to hand lube some switches like you have

[charred plank]

But the buttermilk's also have amazing tolerance

But that's all hmx

[fierce mango]

Sucks that the sk75 is such an annoyance to mod, but I'll probably do a lot to it

[charred plank]

It doesn't have much room to mod

[fiery sail]

tbh its not like the last thing ever u will buy on amazon, to me it sounds like a no brainer to cancel order and get the inky

[charred plank]

Tbh though, it's not in need of much modding beyond caps and switch choices

[fierce mango]

Yeah, fair enough

[charred plank]

Elecfox is pretty based for bringing prices down in the community

Like linky87 is basically like a better keychron v1 max competitor for $39 rn

[fierce mango]

That's insane

Do they even use the same materials and all that?

If so it seems their whole thing is just making every other company look bad

[charred plank]

I mean, both the v1 max and linky87 are abs plastic

The linky 87 is just slightly better designed imo

[fierce mango]

That just makes it crazier

[fiery sail]

i know 2 instances of brands who have very passionate people for what they are doing and want to just make enough money to get by but either make a product affordable and try to force the industry to drop prices or push tech advancements that other companies dont want to bc it makes more profit to not use latest tech, no matter how much better it is

its really rare

but sometimes passionate ppl try to fight systems

[fierce mango]

They make things better and also cost like half or less

[fiery sail]

some industries have mental profit margins and stil lwant more

[charred plank]

It's a shame keyboard community isn't very receptive to that

[fierce mango]

Most communities arent

[charred plank]

You'll have people complain any time a new board pushes pricing lower "omg, Chinese garbage, will blow up, don't get"

[fierce mango]

But then again there are some brands that act passionate but really just make garbage that looks like the real thing

They ruin it for everyone

[fiery sail]

like GTA 5 cost 265 million to develop and market, got 9 billio nin revenue and rockstar sais games arent makign enough money so they might have to release it for 80-100$

[fierce mango]

$140 at release or I'm surprised

[charred plank]

Inky is made by the same company as sk, but they presumably bulk order to get it cheap and take a smaller profit margin

[fierce mango]

That's pretty impressive

[young spoke]

no they arent

they actively do fake discounts

[charred plank]

This dude needs help

[young spoke]

they blocked my IP from accessing their website when i emailed them about this

[young spoke]

you definitely need help if i have to explain the 3rd time

[charred plank]

You're like insufferable about being charged shipping

[young spoke]

yeah

[charred plank]

You'd die if you were born before amazon

[young spoke]

i was born before amazon

[charred plank]

Cap

If you were you'd realize that it's not a scam to charge shipping...

[young spoke]

it is a scam to offer a discount at the same price as the product was before applying the discount

the free shipping was not a promotion

not once was it advertised a discount meaning its not a discount

[charred plank]

You live in a different country with tariffs and shipping cost

[young spoke]

under UK law if they havent offered the product without the discount then its not a discount its an expected service

[charred plank]

If they offer you $20 off but those come to $20 with shipping, shipping and handling will eat up that discount

[young spoke]

ok?

[charred plank]

If at another point in time they offer you free shipping but there isn't a discount the price is the same for you, but neither is a scam

They're different sales that happen to save you the same amount

[young spoke]

if you offer $20 off a $40 item and then charge that in shipping thats a scam if the item hasnt been offered without free shipping before

[young spoke]

they arent different sales

[charred plank]

They aren't mandated to offer you free shipping just because you want it

[young spoke]

they are

like they quite literally are

thats the law

[charred plank]

https://tenor.com/view/wheelchair-dancing-happy-happy-dance-cheering-gif-5735769911863981544

[young spoke]

the item was never offered without free shipping

therefor free shipping isnt a sale

its the expected service

[charred plank]

You are either rage baiting

[young spoke]

i genuinely believe you are ragebaiting

[charred plank]

Or your brain has been melted by mindless consumerism

Like fully melted

Like it's gone

Evaporated

[young spoke]

https://www.gov.uk/marketing-advertising-law/regulations-that-affect-advertising

im done here

not saying that free shipping is an offer also unrelated counts as leaving out important information

americans when they discover other countries have consumer rights laws

[fierce mango]

Consumer rights? What's that?

[young spoke]

real

[fierce mango]

So are you saying the shipping is $30?

Or am I too American

[young spoke]

no but when i was buying something from there

[charred plank]

Shipping calculated at checkout

[fierce mango]

Yes

[young spoke]

the sale was from 89 pounds to 57

there was 32 pounds of shipping

[young spoke]

that wasnt there until they upated the website for the sale

[charred plank]

That was always there...

[young spoke]

no it wasnt

even if it was thats not informing the customer of a sale

[fierce mango]

With shipping in consideration, the Inky75 is going to have me pay a good amount more for a better product than the cheaper one

I forgot about shipping not being free

[charred plank]

Omg, looks like it was always there

Need I zoom in again?

[fierce mango]

I think I might want to use the extra $40 or so (taxes also exist) for some switches either way, in all honesty, and with that I honestly do think I could do pretty good

[fierce mango]

What about it

[charred plank]

Not for you

For the other dude

He's gone on these braindead rants about how companies are breaking the law by charging him shipping

Dude has never left the Amazon store page it seems

[fierce mango]

I do think white labels are important to stop price gouging, but because the only other thing I could conceivably buy from Amazon that would make any sense for me to buy at the moment is not sold there, I figure why not go with the Womier and do the switch upgrade myself

[charred plank]

Yea, no issue with that

[fierce mango]

The only other thing being a half decent chair that won't fall apart in like a year

[charred plank]

The other dude is just annoying

He's like a teenage girl who has had their parents pay for everything ranting about how their parents are criminals for not buying them a new car

[fierce mango]

I do think him mentioning shipping was helpful, because I completely forgot it was more like an $80 keyboard than a $70 one

[charred plank]

Oh, I don't mind him mentioning shipping

[fierce mango]

Yeah

[charred plank]

It's his braindead rants about how everyone is criminal for charging him shipping

[fierce mango]

I'm sleep deprived but the point im getting is that their products seem to always be on sale for the same price, and they make a good chunk of that sale price back with their shipping

[charred plank]

Literally teenage girl "I don't like this so it's illegal!" Mentality

[fierce mango]

I think the keeping the discount there forever, if they actually do that, makes sense to call illegal

It actually is in several countries

[young spoke]

i just checked

the website didnt mention shipping when i checked before the sale

[charred plank]

Cap

[young spoke]

wdym

[charred plank]

I literally just checked with the way back machine

It was always there

[young spoke]

i just checked the screenshot i took

[charred plank]

Then send it

[young spoke]

when did you check

[fierce mango]

Maybe it's regional, that's my best guess

[young spoke]

you fucking idiot

im not even going to bother

[fierce mango]

Wayback machine can check at any time, but not at every place

Automatically that is

My best guess is he lives on the other side of the pond and his regional site didn't have that text

[young spoke]

no point arguing with you f you cant even use the way back machine

[fiery sail]

if somethign is 100$ with free shipping
then discounted to 50$ with 50$ shipping and they market it as a huge discount

its not a discount

same if something is 50, then they increase to 100 for 1 minute and then slap 50$ discount on it

its not a discount, it just looks more appealing to dumb customers

like its actually not that difficult

[charred plank]

Shipping is region dependent

[fiery sail]

read

even amazon has multiple products taht are the exact same

one seller sells it for X with free shipping

[charred plank]

In the us it's $10

[fiery sail]

the other sells the same product for X - 5 with 5$ shipping

fro mthe same coutnry of origin

to my sasme adress

[charred plank]

Uk shipping is $20

[fiery sail]

before the "discount" they offered free shipping

afterwards they dont

like

[charred plank]

Yep, they just changed where they're eating cost

[fiery sail]

thats not a coincidence

yeah but then u cant market it as a discount

because it isnt

[charred plank]

Instead of eating cost on shipping they're eating cost on the msrp

If you're somewhere with expensive shipping and tariffs it might cost the same

If you aren't, it costs less

It's just a change in where they're eating cost

In other words

A change in sale

[fiery sail]

which is fine

if it wasnt marketed

as a damn iscount

which it isnt

like

how do i get through to you

[charred plank]

It is a discount

Because the item costs less

[fiery sail]

the buyer pays the exact same price

how is it a discount

[charred plank]

No

If you're in the UK you only save $1

If you're in the us, the change in discount saves you $10

If you're in Asia, the change in discount saves you probably $15

It'd even be a discount if you lived somewhere where shipping is $200

Because you would be getting a discount on the itemized cost of the product, but not on shipping

So it would just be a worse discount in that scenario

[fiery sail]

ok, 1 final approach

shipping is always paid, right?

ups isnt just randomly generous and makes shipping free for any seller, right?

can we agree on that

[charred plank]

Yes, they eat the cost or they pass it to you

[fiery sail]

exactly, the only change is how it looks at checkout

[charred plank]

Not exactly

There are some specific differences in how an item will be tariffed and such based on how it's cost is itemized

If I sell you an item for $100 and shipping is $100 and there is a 10% tariff on its initial cost that I choose to cover, the total I need to pay in tariffs is $10 (if I choose to have you pay the tariff you now pay $210)

If I say "I'll make shipping free and just charge more for regions with tariffs based on that cost" my item is now $200 plus $0 in shipping plus $20 for tariffs. If I choose to eat the cost of tariffs, it's now $200 and I pay $20, or if you pay it the cost is now $220

Honestly, that's probably the real reason they chose to charge shipping and have a discount in MSRP

Because afaik they're eating the cost of tariffs too unless they have a large enough warehouse in the us to just not have shipped any here during that period

So the way they handled their sales probably saves them a little and in theory means they can maintain the same profit margin without charging you or me more

That's not illegal, it's just a different way of itemizing cost, which happens to be a sale for almost anyone

But a smaller sale for some regions

[fiery sail]

im not quite certain if it works that way or if the company pays tariffs based on what they actually sold the product for since what they paid to UPS or others could be deducted

that would determine which version is correct here

if you could link me a source to that would be amazing, im too lazy rn

[charred plank]

It depends on how they itemize it

And the region and how they handle tariffs

[fiery sail]

but even then in that case they marketed the 20$ fully as a sale which is misleading to say the least

[charred plank]

It's a $20 sale to the initial price

[fiery sail]

a 20$ sale that now has a 20$ extra fee

[charred plank]

How would you have them handle it instead?

No discount and charge shipping?

[fiery sail]

change price, dont market it as discount

[charred plank]

Because free shipping and a discount would cost them more

[fiery sail]

charge shipping

if it saves like 2$ somewhere make it e.g. 70$ first, then 68$ and market it as 2$ sale

thats fair

[charred plank]

Discount to MSRP and shipping now not being free is a discount

Just changes by region

Which means I don't have to eat some cost for shipping to the UK costing more

[fiery sail]

shipping didnt magically change by region by changing if charged at checkout

[charred plank]

And means they don't have to eat some cost when they ship there

[fiery sail]

previously it would just always be added to the price before

[charred plank]

Shipping always changes by region...

[fiery sail]

yes

but before

its just added to the price

before goign to checkout

[charred plank]

If they offer free shipping the amount of cost they eat changes by region

If they charge you shipping the amount you pay changes by region

[fiery sail]

so its just 90$ here, 80 there and 75 in the next region but they always say freee shipping

instead of 70 + 20/10/5

[charred plank]

Here, I'll give you a really easy way to understand this

MSRP was $99

I don't think they even always offered free shipping

But let's say for the sake of argument they did

Okay?

[fiery sail]

that s what this whole thign is based on

that shipping was free before

[charred plank]

So now, if what they're doing now isn't a discount, checkout should be $99 for me per board right?

So if I buy 3 boards it should be about $300 no?

Instead, if I buy one board, it's $69 plus $10 shipping

[young spoke]

also

[charred plank]

Less than $99

[young spoke]

btw

it was a flat £32 every single country i tried

[charred plank]

If I buy 3, it's $69*3 plus $10

[young spoke]

(20 different countries)

[charred plank]

You're capping so hard

[young spoke]

no it was 57+32 for each item

[charred plank]

I just checked how they handle it

It changes per country you select

[young spoke]

it does not

[charred plank]

They have a flat rate per country

[young spoke]

they have a flat rate in total

[charred plank]

Nope

[young spoke]

they did

[charred plank]

In the us shipping is $10

Uk it's £19

[young spoke]

i imagine someone threatened to sue or something

it was 32

how is there such a drop in price

[fiery sail]

couldnt you prove by using wayback

[charred plank]

Shipping to the us has always been $10

[fiery sail]

like u said before

[young spoke]

no

[worldly garden]

i come back to biooc yapping his shitbox inky again

[young spoke]

it has literally always been the amount you save on the discount

so if you buy something for $10 discounted to $5 it added $5 shipping

[worldly garden]

someone offered me a neo65 with every accesories with a small dink

40$ obo !

[young spoke]

how much

dang

scam

[charred plank]

@young spoke what's $99-69

[worldly garden]

he is down for pick up

[charred plank]

Let's see if you can do the basic math I presented earlier

[young spoke]

literally text book against the law

[young spoke]

idk

[fierce mango]

Where is it

[young spoke]

$87

[worldly garden]

here

[young spoke]

the money you save being added to the shipping cost was not explained

[worldly garden]

biooc with his nonsense argument with randoms, always fun to watch

[young spoke]

nor was the "free shipping" deal

[worldly garden]

allthat effort to prove "yo i am right, now suck it"

lol

[charred plank]

@young spoke 99-69 is 30

[young spoke]

i am

[young spoke]

ok

[charred plank]

30*3 is $90

[worldly garden]

vauxy leave it

[young spoke]

yeah

[charred plank]

If I buy 3 boards I pay $10 shipping

[worldly garden]

he wont go far with his chinesium 75

[young spoke]

lucky fucker

[fierce mango]

Why does 30(3) matter

[charred plank]

That's less than the cost savings of 1 board

If I buy 3 it's substantially less

[young spoke]

i added 3 to my cart and it added 32 pounds onto the price per item

[worldly garden]

patheic people out there saving 10 quid when buying a keyboard

lol

[charred plank]

@young spoke you're in the UK right?

[worldly garden]

[young spoke]

yes

[fierce mango]

Aren't most decent keyboards chinesium

[charred plank]

I'm gonna quickly prove you're capping

[young spoke]

nah

you literally cant

because i cant use the website

[fierce mango]

Like not high end type keyboards I mean

[young spoke]

since im banned from it

[worldly garden]

99% is, however branding, makers and their qc made their difference

[young spoke]

they IP banned me from the website

[worldly garden]

some high end's are made from china now

[charred plank]

So we both agree the price of 3 to the UK will be $300 by your logic right? @young spoke

[young spoke]

what

30x3 isnt 300

[worldly garden]

not some, as i said 99% of them, labor and cost is cheap there, and the quality is outstanding

[fiery sail]

cant you jsut use your phone?

[young spoke]

no

[fierce mango]

So I mean compare the Inky75 with the SK75, seeing as they're the same manufacturer supposedly but womier is a more known brand

[worldly garden]

ew dude, those are oem's

foamboards

[fiery sail]

like workaround for IP bans are way simpler than arguing with biooc xD

[young spoke]

they ip banned all devices i used on the website

[fierce mango]

Fair enough but the point being, at what point is it chinesium

[young spoke]

agreed

although you want to know whats simpler? finishing futurama which im going to do rn

[fiery sail]

enjoy urself mate

[worldly garden]

chinesium is the term me and some people point out some terribly bad, oem'd and obv, from china keyboards

[worldly garden]

istg man, i would rather work with who to make new cure for cancer than argue with biooc

[fierce mango]

So what $100 keyboards aren't oem and are directly better, while maintaining the same features as an sk75 if there are any

[worldly garden]

neo60

?

implying u didint mention the same 75% layout

telling you mate, neo60 is goregous for that price range

[fierce mango]

Oh that thing

Yeah that looks great, though I honestly prefer 75%

[worldly garden]

you know, have 2 more keys

and we have a tkl

[fierce mango]

True

[young spoke]

watching the episode where bender harvests everyones kidneys

not joking thats a real episode

[charred plank]

They have a temporary limit of 1 of each item it seems so I'm actually going to calculate it for 1 of each keyboard they offer

[fiery sail]

i watched like 5 episodes of it when i was 10 and really bored so cant relate xD

[fierce mango]

I think 75% is nice for VIA and QMK though, more keys to use for tap dancing to make up for the ones you don't have

Losing the space the lesser used ones take up while still being able to use them I mean

[worldly garden]

???

u can do fullsize ultility in a 40% mate, thanks to qmk and via

[fierce mango]

Did I write something completely wrong or did I just forgor

Maybe I have to get a 60% some time

[charred plank]

@young spoke by your logic, this cart should be $205 before they did discounts, and should be the same now

[fierce mango]

I see why this hobby gets expensive

[charred plank]

But guess what

[young spoke]

just give it up bruh

[charred plank]

It's not £205

[young spoke]

ive already proven you wrong twice i cant be bothered

[charred plank]

Now let's see if shipping changes with that same cart for my address

[young spoke]

@fervent breach when realforce c1

[fiery sail]

idk how people manage without f keys, like i dont want to press an fn key to refresh a tab, go full screen or how odes alt f4 even work unless you put alt on the same layer as the f keys

[young spoke]

or ce or whatever the fuck topre your buying now

[fervent breach]

r1

Noobn

[young spoke]

idk either

[fierce mango]

Though I am curious, the sk75 isn't known to regularly have reliability issues, which to my knowledge is the main disadvantage

[fiery sail]

not even considering how important F keys are in a lot of games

[fervent breach]

its an 87usd btw

its so hot

got i fucking love it

[fierce mango]

True, can't alt f4

[fervent breach]

Trust

ME

uhhh

huhh

[young spoke]

free realforce r1 box

[fervent breach]

uhh waht

idk when it arrives

skk

soon

[fiery sail]

well you cna but u need alt on multiple layers, the same that has F keys in that case

[charred plank]

Like I said it would ...

@young spoke omg! Shipping price changed for the us

[fervent breach]

WHO CARE

[fiery sail]

but there are so many key combinations that would require so many keys on multiple layers

[charred plank]

It's almost like they charge shipping per region...

[fiery sail]

renkforce is better /s

[fervent breach]

At what

[charred plank]

Dude needs to get off his teenage girl phase of "I don't like shipping so this is ILLEGAL" type shi

[fervent breach]

WHat is renkforce better at realforce at

[worldly garden]

stop buying shitbox, buy another neo ergo

[fierce mango]

But anyways what's the issue with OEM if you mean the profile of the keycaps, or are you talking about the manufacturer producing every part?

[worldly garden]

the manu

i grab a decent set of og oem keycaps awhile backl

[charred plank]

@worldly garden do you know what OEM means?

[fervent breach]

oem realforce caps

Boom

i want some realforce alphas

[worldly garden]

oem rubber domes

boom

[charred plank]

It just means original equipment manufacturer

[worldly garden]

how much did u get your 87usd again

[fierce mango]

The sk75 doesn't have a bad rep for reliability, which I'd think is the main concern for oem manu

[worldly garden]

it cloning slops biooc

[fierce mango]

As far as I know that is

[fervent breach]

how much didi pay?

i paid 110 gbp

[worldly garden]

yes yes

[fervent breach]

• shipping

[charred plank]

Almost all keyboards have an OEM handle stages of production

[worldly garden]

selling for 250 quid in mechmarket dude

[fervent breach]

which i think is really good because theyre like 400 usd on conical market

[fervent breach]

Lavvd

[worldly garden]

find me oem stages of the tgr jane me

and i will shut up

[worldly garden]

conical ass

[young spoke]

im telling my $30 build for $600 on mechmarket

[worldly garden]

u should come to keybroke

[fervent breach]

conicalminded

[charred plank]

Unless you're buying from a giant of industry like Dell or a basement 1 of 10 board made in someone's garage

[fervent breach]

what is keybroke

[worldly garden]

i just made them to add a topre channel there

[fervent breach]

i googled

[fierce mango]

Damn

[worldly garden]

calling norby

[worldly garden]

oh yes we are figure that out too

[fervent breach]

norbaforce mk1

[worldly garden]

discord still exists too

[charred plank]

Very few companies handle their own molds or cncing, their own anodization, their own PCB printing and solder masking, their own assembly, etc

[worldly garden]

neo

[fervent breach]

invite me

[worldly garden]

LOL

[charred plank]

At most you might have companies handling 2 steps of that whole process

[worldly garden]

norby

cherry

keycult

nk

cannonkeys

im naming them like the alphabet

👍

[fierce mango]

Not on Amazon, by technicality does cost more

[worldly garden]

wait no not keycult..

or did it

[fierce mango]

For me that is

[charred plank]

None of them handle all of those steps

[worldly garden]

they did

[fervent breach]

i wonder when the lube i ordered arrives

[charred plank]

They outsource individual steps

[worldly garden]

if u say so, where is the proof

[charred plank]

They handle assembly

[worldly garden]

norby handmade his boards back then

[charred plank]

I think neo might handle their own cncing?

[worldly garden]

neo as i said

own a fucking factory

[charred plank]

But they don't do their own anodization

[fervent breach]

realforce 89u cs neo

[charred plank]

They don't handle their own solder masking

[worldly garden]

eave65 with ec pcb

[charred plank]

They don't print their own PCBs

[worldly garden]

dm

got ya the link

[charred plank]

They outsource all of that or external oems

[worldly garden]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615