peripherals

[sick flint]

It take up way to much space for it to have uses like 4 times in its lifespan

[fiery sail]

liek u can hold alt and press 26 on the numpad

→

and get an arrow liek this

and i use them so much

[sick flint]

Just make one

->

[fiery sail]

↑

♪

[sick flint]

^

I would never use them

@fiery sail here https://epomaker.com/products/epomaker-th99?_pos=3&_sid=607c02757&_ss=r&variant=48618187489588

[fiery sail]

why did they... not send me an email

[sick flint]

Wdym

This is what you want no?

[fiery sail]

lets say im in personal contact with epomaker, mchose and a few others to get their keyboards into tech stores here in germany

[sick flint]

Oh well that’s what you want ig

[fiery sail]

yeah its amazing

also i dotn need new switches bc they come with silents

[sick flint]

96 percent

And it’s ISO DE

[fiery sail]

yeah its perfect

and saves me anotehr 35€ on switches

thank you so much

[sick flint]

I would keep the switches

Epomaker has some nice switches

Especially the jade ones

[fiery sail]

yeah thats what i mean

i just can take thei rsea salt silents

and dont ahve to spend another

[sick flint]

Really? Silent?

[fiery sail]

like the top1 reason to upgrade my keybaord is to get a mroe quiet one that doesnt wake up my GF at night

[flat dock]

oh hey i have a sample of those

[fiery sail]

xD

[sick flint]

I love creamy and deep sounding boards

[flat dock]

i am starting to get the hype around clack

[sick flint]

Btw if your interested this is what I’m getting

https://epomaker.com/products/ajazz-ak820-pro?variant=47015914602804

[fiery sail]

i wonder if epomaker actually is available in tech stores now
even big stores here have literally only rubberdome

and they said the only way to make their iso de layout available again if they could get into retail stores

[sick flint]

Not in Canada yet

[fiery sail]

their other keybaords are still not available in iso DE

[sick flint]

Yeah I know

I saw

[fiery sail]

thats so wild

i dont even understand how it makes sense to make it available for one keyboard but not others

but im not complaining

[sick flint]

Course you could always be like everyone else and get the aula F75

[fiery sail]

been trying to find sth for a year now and wrote at least 50 emails to sellers directly

and i might be sueing wooting

so this is a journey im VERY happy to end

ASAP

[sick flint]

No offence to wooting but their keyboards are ASS

[fiery sail]

yep

support even worse

like they had a keyboard listed as in stock

[sick flint]

Attack shark provides the same keyboards for a fraction of the cost

[fiery sail]

even sent confirmation emails, 3 of them

that it progressed in the production line

ready to ship and stuff

after 3 weeks they send an email it was all fake and my keyboard was never in stock

offer me a 30€ gift card that cant be used on the current purchase

[sick flint]

Wooting literally has nothing special about them anymore. Before it used to be because they were mag switches but now you have no reason to buy a wooting anymore

[fiery sail]

like wtf shall i need a 2nd keyboard in a few days or what?

and then later on they lieterally said they never offered a gift card

despite me having proof in emails

and now its either settled by consumer protection

or if they accuse me of bad intent or sth i have a groudn to sue them

[sick flint]

Idk why pick wooting anyways

[fiery sail]

bc unironically

it was pretty much the cheapest option

[sick flint]

I would never buy a keyboard for 250 USD that I can get for the same keyboard for 80 dollars

[fiery sail]

which is wild to say

[sick flint]

Bro they’re like 200 USD keyboards. Like what

[fiery sail]

liek the other cheapest were keychron v6 or turtle beach vulcan 2 for 120€ + 35€ for switches

[sick flint]

How did you not find the one I sent you 💔🥀

[fiery sail]

and i figured paying 40€ extra for HE might be worth it

[sick flint]

It took me 3 minutes

[fiery sail]

i can assure you it wasnt available when i looked

[sick flint]

Just go to attack shark

[fiery sail]

like i can send u the email from epomaker if u want xD

[sick flint]

Nah wooting can SMD

[fiery sail]

brain fart

meant epomaker, corrected it

[sick flint]

Oh epomaker is goated

[fiery sail]

wrote to epomaker if they plan to return ISO de

[sick flint]

I always wanted the galaxy80 but it’s a lil too expensive

[fiery sail]

and they said they have 0 keybaords available and dont plan on returnign iso DE any time soon unless they can get to a retial store in germany

and if i had any insights on what stores are best to contact

[fiery sail]

RT 100 would be my top 1 pick

[sick flint]

Why

Oh it has a numpad

That makes sense

[fiery sail]

its very quiet and i love the retro design

and the screen is somethign you dont get usually at 75€

[sick flint]

You know if you wanted a cheap just buy the kludge keyboards

[fiery sail]

keyboard pricing is wild sometimes in gerrmany

[sick flint]

Huh

[fiery sail]

keychron and kludge are unreasonably expensive

[sick flint]

Bro I can get one for 30 dollars

Not even actually

[fiery sail]

i mean the price that they cost here

liek some brands here just cost 2x

others cost 0.5

of what they are in the US

and i have 0 clue why

[sick flint]

Bro the RK68 is 60 dollars CAD

That’s less then 40 euros

[fiery sail]

monitors and GPUs are dirt cheap here as well

like taxes included i pay at least 10% less for an OLEd than you would PRE TAXES in the US

same for most GPUs

[sick flint]

Lucky

[fiery sail]

it just flips when u want a halfway decent keybaord and not spend 3 digits

as i said some things are randomly 2x

others 0.5x

[sick flint]

GPUs in America are like inflated

[fiery sail]

they are everywhere

[sick flint]

I’m not sure if you can get that keyboard I sent you in Germany

[fiery sail]

but in the US its even worse

[fiery sail]

works but its 125€

[sick flint]

Holy shipping fee

[fiery sail]

nvm

just order from the german page

xD

u see that s what i mean, i pay 90€ taxes included

instead of 100$ + taxes

and it makes NO SENSE

at all

[sick flint]

Idk

[fiery sail]

btw how does it weigh 1.7kg with a plastic casing xD

[sick flint]

Because it’s huge

It’s almost 100 percent keyboard

[fiery sail]

like i have a metal one that is 100% and weighs 1.14

[sick flint]

So you think I should get flying fish or gifted

[fiery sail]

?

[sick flint]

Switches

[fiery sail]

no idea, that one is for the others 😄

[sick flint]

💔🥀

[fiery sail]

alright, the th99 is ordered

thank you so much

like honestly, i have been through so much just to get a damn silent keybaord without spending half a rent
i am SO relieved and very positive that this is finally over

[fervent breach]

dude

just get a hhkb pro 2 type-s

or silenced rf

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[fiery sail]

does someone have experience with multiple switch types in 1 keyboard?

[flat dock]

what like having both mechanical and HE in one keyboard?

[fiery sail]

no like tactile and linear or different actuation force

just feeling wise

[flat dock]

yeah I do that all the time

[fiery sail]

even on like keys directly next to each other?

[flat dock]

yeah that's the ideal so I can compare them

[fiery sail]

i mean like for daily use

[flat dock]

I mean eventually once I'm done testing then I don't. But sometimes people use a different spacebar for example

but I've been running mixed switches for a few weeks so I can actually test them in daily usage

[fiery sail]

the sea salt silents that come with the th99 are 60g which is a bit much for me and i got 10 spare ones at 35 and 45g which is much mroe to my liking so im hoping i can just use those for the important keys

but if not i'll just test it and order more, its not the end of the world

[flat dock]

I like to swap all alphas if possible

[fiery sail]

alphas?

[flat dock]

Otherwise I go by letter frequency

All the letter keys

[fiery sail]

ah i see

well with 20 thats difficult

[flat dock]

then just switch the 20 most common letters in whatever language you type in most

[fiery sail]

and for me in gaming its more like 1-5. qwer asdf etc.

[flat dock]

or sacrifice a few if you wanna test the spacebat

or wasd

[fiery sail]

yeah just jeft hemisphere of the keyboard

i think 20 will be not enough anyway

[worldly garden]

Is just weird

[young spoke]

i put a tactile switch in fn esc and caps lock

[fiery sail]

do you think its serviceable to have like most keys that are relevant for gaming on 35/45g tactiles and the reest of the keyboard on 60g linears?

[worldly garden]

people do put one kind switch at alphas and another kind at modifiers too

[fervent breach]

heavier domes on spacebar

[young spoke]

please stop

[young spoke]

sure

youd probably want low weight linears for gaming though

[fiery sail]

nah i had linears o nthe keyboards i returned and i really dont like it

[fiery sail]

to me the linear for gamign and tactile for typing makes no sense either.

like for gamign i want to know the exact moment ky key actuates so i can move my figner away to a different key asap, know for sure i pressed it to know if e.g. my reflexes were too late or the input didnt register bc i didnt press the key enough.
whereas for typing the tactile bump, especially when writing for a long time is more exhausting and... i mean im watching the screen if the key registered, why would i need feedback on my fingertips?

[young spoke]

its faster innit

linears are faster actuation

and require less force (usually)

unless you use mx super reds or some shit

[fiery sail]

well my linears im getting are 60g and the tactiles i have are 35 and 45

[young spoke]

fair

[fiery sail]

and i mean maybe if you are getting paid for playing esports those microseconds make a difference

[young spoke]

i find tactiles build chatter faster then linears so thats something to notice

[fiery sail]

but even if tactiles were faster i wouldnt name that as an argument for me

what is chatter?

[young spoke]

double typing

[fiery sail]

idk my noname 15 year old rubberdome managed not to do that

i would expect any mechanical switch to last longer than that

[young spoke]

ehhhhh

youd assume

[fiery sail]

and i mean worst case i buy replacement switches at some point for 5 bucks

and although i have gotten more used to it, over the ~1 month i do way more typing mistakes on linears still

like especially pressing keys in the wrong order

[fiery sail]

↑

like this one, and that message already was edited bc it had 3 of those

and i only found 2 when editing apparently xD

[young spoke]

lmao

[lethal plover]

i got a question @fiery sail ur using a iso keyboard right?

[young spoke]

i just dont like tactiles bumps

[fiery sail]

tecware 105 ISO DE

[young spoke]

they make me make more mistakes when typing

[lethal plover]

shi thanks

how good is it

[fiery sail]

for me awful, im returning it, but if you dont plan to ever switch the keys its decent

[lethal plover]

oh

[fiery sail]

build quality is great, its metal, comes with metal keypuller

60€ for a full size, cant complain

just the switches are 3 pin

which makes the hot swap feature virtually useless

[lethal plover]

eh im just looking for like a 65%

i just need the iso which makes it harder for me

[fiery sail]

any specific iso?

[lethal plover]

nordic

but DE would work

[fiery sail]

why do you need iso?

[lethal plover]

because i speak a nordic language?

need it for general life purposes

[fiery sail]

oh and you would just reprogram Ä Ö Ü to the æ and stuff?

[lethal plover]

yeah

[fiery sail]

coudlnt you do the same with ansi?

[lethal plover]

aslong as i get to have those extra keys then it should work fine

isnt ansi fundementally different

not having the space or something

idk that much about keyboards

[fiery sail]

i would count the keys you actually need

anythign that is VIA compatible will be reprogrammable to any key

want escape to be an arrow key? no problem

this is a basic 65% ansi layout

(epomaker galaxy 65)

[lethal plover]

yeah

[fiery sail]

also you could reprogram the keys to ahve liek 4 different functions comapred to 2 or 3

[lethal plover]

idk according to my reasearch (random reddit threads) its simpler to just buy an iso keyboard

[fiery sail]

much simpler

but depending on how many stuff you are filtering for

might also be much more expensive

[worldly garden]

buy an iso which can keymap

[lethal plover]

eh

idrm that much

aslong as its like sub 200 then im ok

[fiery sail]

like for me all i needed was ISO DE, 85% or more and hot swap

and that bumped the price from 25€ to 90€ and took a literal year of research and waiting

[lethal plover]

yeah i just need iso, 65% or more and pref hotswap

but i also do want something that sounds nice so im willing to spend more

[fiery sail]

does your country have some decent price comparison website where u can filter for stuff like layout and hotswap?

if so i would just filter for what u want, sort by cheapest and watch reviews for all the boards from cheapest upwards until you find something that satisfies you

[young spoke]

use nordic iso keycaps

[fiery sail]

and if it has a good price, buy
if not, wait a month, repeat

or set price alarms

[young spoke]

and then select nordic keyboard layout

[lethal plover]

i think that atp im just gonna end up making a custom keyboard

the GMMK 2 65% Barebone ISO is on sale

so i migh t get that and some switches and keycaps

[fiery sail]

how much is it?

[lethal plover]

the barebone iso is 70 bucks

[fiery sail]

that not terrible

bucks in this case is € i suppose and taxes included?

[lethal plover]

nah

60.87 eur

taxes included yeah

[fiery sail]

sounds good tbh,

how much would you pay for lets say an endorfy thock or aula f75?

not sayign they are good for u but just to see how prices are

[young spoke]

would not recommend any aula boards

[fiery sail]

↑

...

[lethal plover]

i mean the endorfy was on sale previously

but at full price its 104 euro

[young spoke]

dang

[fiery sail]

yikes

[young spoke]

thats expensive as fuck

[fiery sail]

thats awful for that

[lethal plover]

i live in an expensive country lol

[fiery sail]

well your barebones are dirt cheap xD

like the cheapest barebones i can get my hands on is 150€

not even kidding

[lethal plover]

actually the endorfy thock tkl is 69 euros

[fiery sail]

yeah thats same here

roughly

how about aula f75 and some keychron boards?

doesnt matter which one just find 1

[young spoke]

unlucky bastard

[fiery sail]

as its just for prices

[lethal plover]

no local site selsls the aula f75

[young spoke]

cant buy a gmk67 for 2 pounds

[fiery sail]

like i found keyboards that are less than 50% the price of the barebones xD

[young spoke]

that shit unironically cost 20 pence and a half eaten pack of crisps

[young spoke]

whats even the point lmao

[fiery sail]

idk

so dumb

[lethal plover]

i cba exchanging the cost

currency is nok

[fiery sail]

takk

norsk er veldig snill

[lethal plover]

lol

bare hyggelig

[young spoke]

150 pounds for a k2 HE

[fiery sail]

sorry i didnt make it past section 2 on duolingo yet xD

[lethal plover]

its fine dw

[lethal plover]

is that bad

[young spoke]

yes

[fiery sail]

keychron in europe

is

idk

[young spoke]

the V6 max is a decent price

[fiery sail]

they just put a 2x mult on the prices bc they thought it was fun after palying balatro

[young spoke]

30 pounds cheaper then here

[lethal plover]

are pulsar barebones good

[young spoke]

no they just convert the price from dollars into pounds by changing the symbol not the actual price

making things literally like 30% more

[fiery sail]

and then from pounds to € they change the price

or to nok

[young spoke]

nah

most things ive seen also just change the symbol to euros

[fiery sail]

why are the cheapest keychrons here 120€ then?

[lethal plover]

anyways is just getting the gmmk 2 65% barebones then getting the switches and keycaps myself a good idea?

[young spoke]

thats also accurate here

[young spoke]

is that even iso?

[lethal plover]

i can get it iso

[young spoke]

dang

[fiery sail]

what software do they use / is it via compatible?

[young spoke]

did not know they had vertical stabs on iso enter

[lethal plover]

isnt that good?

[young spoke]

idk

thats just confusing

[lethal plover]

think its jusjt whatever software glorius has

¨¨

[young spoke]

i did not know that (i live in a country where iso is the main layout)

[fiery sail]

just googled it

its qmk and via compatible

[lethal plover]

which is a good thing i assume

[fiery sail]

so ur golden

via is an open source software to customize RGB, reprogram keys and stuff

and better than any software from any brand i have seen

[lethal plover]

nice

any switch recomendations?

[fiery sail]

like usually people liek wootility and that stuff is horrible compared to via

honestly, id recommend ordering a test kit

[young spoke]

id try a switch tester

see what type of switch what weight etc you want

[fiery sail]

unless syou can narrow it down to 2-3 different switches

then you could jsut order 10 of each

[lethal plover]

im ngl i kinda cba buying an entire switch tester im just looking for some silent switches

[fiery sail]

u know if u want tactile or linear?

[lethal plover]

prolly linear

[fiery sail]

what keyboard are you durrently on?

[lethal plover]

rn

[fiery sail]

some old rubberdome or mechanical?

[lethal plover]

mechanical

it has some cherry reds

iirc

[fiery sail]

is it linear and what actuation force?

ok

[lethal plover]

i have like 0 idea

being honest

[fiery sail]

u want a similar, heavier or lighter actuation force?

[lethal plover]

similar or lighter

[fiery sail]

alright, either find switch selling sites yourself or honestly ask chatgpt about where to find 35-45g silent linears for cheap

https://monacokeys.de/en/collections/switches?filter.p.m.custom.switch_type=Silent+Linear

i thin kthey offer EU wide shipping

thats where i got my silent tactiles

[young spoke]

ajazz gift switches are around 60g pretty good

[fiery sail]

and was the by far cheapest and the support is just awesome and sweet

[young spoke]

mx reds are 60g

[lethal plover]

how many keys would i need for a 65%

is it 70?

[fiery sail]

i thought cN is just g in this case

[lethal plover]

oh that was cheaper than i thought

which silent switches did you get

[young spoke]

68 iirc

[lethal plover]

any you would recomend?

[fiery sail]

i got tactiles

so doesnt apply for you

[lethal plover]

oh

linears would be better for gaming right

[fiery sail]

most say so

for me its the opposite

for me tactiles are more comfy and i value the information the bump gives me over the marginally faster time it takes to register a key press

but thats entirely subjective

[young spoke]

id highly recommend ajazz gifts

or homoo sea salt silents if you want a silent

[lethal plover]

i think im gonna get the silent frozen

[fiery sail]

unless u get paid to play those games (ich which case you wouldnt be here) id say what is more comfy for you is 100x more important than any marginal benefits

[lethal plover]

linear on the site he recomended

and they sound great

[fiery sail]

check shipping costs tho

[lethal plover]

like

[fiery sail]

they are based in germany

[lethal plover]

8 bucks

[fiery sail]

i would buy 10 of each you think could be best for you

put the 10-20 suboptimal ones on unimportant keys

and then order the rest of the ones u liked best

so u'll pay shipping twice

[lethal plover]

eh i dont care that much being fully honest

[fiery sail]

btw if u want one of their deskmats i can give u a 5€ discount code the support offered me

[lethal plover]

the ttc one recomended by this guyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_nFET4bIIY&ab_channel=Milktooth

sounds good

[fiery sail]

and they have open box keyboards as well, u can just ask the suppport and they will tell u what there and u can get a nice discount that way

when testing its more about actuation force that feels good for u

not sound

especially with silent switches

[lethal plover]

the activation force stated is 39gf

lighter than the red i have which is nice

[young spoke]

these are sea salt silents

60g

linear

[lethal plover]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

where should i get keycaps

ali express?

[fiery sail]

most likely y

[young spoke]

ali has good caps

[lethal plover]

why did my ali express turn thai brugh

wtf

[young spoke]

i like most ymdk caps

[fiery sail]

u just came from a german website set to english with norwegian location

german x english/norwegian = thai

obviously

[lethal plover]

lol

[fiery sail]

quick meffs

[lethal plover]

what do i look for in keycaps

pbt?

[fiery sail]

anyway im going to play some games with friends who rarely have time, see you later guys and it was really great to meet you chilli, hope to see you aroudn more here :3

[lethal plover]

thanks

see you some othertime

[young spoke]

yeah

look at ymdk

they have great budget caps

[lethal plover]

website or on ali

[young spoke]

ali

[lethal plover]

doesnt show any iso keycaps from them

[young spoke]

really?

[lethal plover]

i think its just ali being broken tho

[young spoke]

yeah they defo have iso caps

not sure about norwegian iso

[lethal plover]

yeah theres a set here for 2 bucks

lol

german iso

but thats fine

[young spoke]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008989611471.html? these are nice

has german/english iso

[lethal plover]

yeah they are

but considering the barebone is black anyways idm doing black keys

and for 2 bucks vs 20

idk man

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006870364815.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.14.3779219c6c7M4k&algo_pvid=cf62f8d8-879c-4eed-a77d-2dafc42474f2&algo_exp_id=cf62f8d8-879c-4eed-a77d-2dafc42474f2-13&pdp_ext_f={"order"%3A"76"%2C"eval"%3A"1"}&pdp_npi=4%40dis!NOK!93.29!93.29!!!9.01!9.01!%40211b807017512151093572273eeb12!12000038574994991!sea!NO!3168109054!X&curPageLogUid=LHTxN4K69LWL&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[young spoke]

i wouldnt use them

[lethal plover]

how come

[young spoke]

they are cheap quality ABS pudding caps

[lethal plover]

oh

[young spoke]

unless you care about rbg shinethrough

[lethal plover]

not rly

[young spoke]

id absolutely recommend double shot pbt then

also the german iso is 17 for me

[lethal plover]

weird

was 2 bucks for me

welcome thing

[worldly garden]

Ew

[young spoke]

id definitely recommend these

[worldly garden]

Pudding

Get something normal smh

[lethal plover]

these seem good?

[worldly garden]

Do u need shine thru

[lethal plover]

no

not really

[young spoke]

pudding jump scare

[worldly garden]

Look up aifei wob

[young spoke]

he needs ISO

norwegian or german

[worldly garden]

Aifei wob iso

There is iso keycaps where they are not pudding or shine thru slop

[lethal plover]

none of the results on ali are iso

for me

[clear bison]

do yall know the monka m3? i have a problem where the wired version refuses to work.

[flat dock]

that switch gives me PTSD

silent bluish white 🥀

[steel abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-cakes-foodie-delicious-homemade-foodiegram-gif-23417992

[flat dock]

that's not pudding but its better

[steel abyss]

its a melt in the middle

its a pudding

[flat dock]

its a cake

[steel abyss]

its not a cake

https://tenor.com/view/chocolate-cake-mark-bittman-dessert-gif-3446067

[flat dock]

that is a cake

[young spoke]

cakes are puddings anyway

[steel abyss]

ye

[flat dock]

I don't like this fact

[young spoke]

what?

you don’t like the fact cakes are typically eaten after a dinner

[steel abyss]

ye

or after lunch

[flat dock]

how does that make it a pudding

I thought you mean the complexion

[steel abyss]

you have pudding after your main course

[flat dock]

I thought the puddingness was determined by the structure and texture of the food, not the time of consumption

[steel abyss]

its a mix i think

[flat dock]

I've never been a big fan of pudding

[steel abyss]

gasp

how dare you

its the best part

[flat dock]

A week ago I had a red velvet cake slice from a local bakery

[steel abyss]

k

i never had red velvet cake

[young spoke]

did it use salt or sugar?

[flat dock]

idk but it was very sweet

[fiery sail]

by definition, in the UK unless specified, pudding is a synonym for dessert.
in the rest of the world, pudding usually refers to a more creamy and soft version that often has the typical pudding form.
cakes usually are more firm and come in various different shapes

and then again especially in the UK there are non dessert puddings and really nobody knows what goign on eover there, its like the americans who are allergic to having any sense in their measurement system

[undone vault]

What monitor works best for Xbox Series X (for gaming)
and PC (Just for small work, nothing special that requires high res)

[steel abyss]

im from the uk and still am in the uk

[young spoke]

this is a great analogy

[flat dock]

british people will make fun of american measurements but then ignore how messed up their system for distance units on roads is

[fiery sail]

go to a local price comparison site, use filters 1080p & 120 and higher Hz
if you need to look at the monitor from abstract viewing angles, not even in front of the monitor anymore, then you want to filter for IPS panels as well.
sort by cheapest and find monitors that have advertised response times of 1ms MPRT or 2ms GtG
for the 3 cheapest ones, look up reviews on youtube and RTINGS.com

if you got any questions feel free to tag me, although im heading to bed now and hope y'all are having an amazing time :3

[chrome raft]

Corsair Vengeance LPX, 32GB (2x16GB), DDR4 3200MHz, CL16

Actually will be grabbing this

[fiery sail]

wouldnt pay any more than 35 bucks for that

especially DDR4 gets a lot of performance from going 3600+
im just on a B450 board, nothing special, not even VRM heatsinks and can overclock my 3600CL18 to 3900 without increasing the CLs
3200 kits often dont get that much out of an overclock and the price difference is neglegible, especially if you are lookign to keep your system for at least 2-3 years, which means you can skip AM5 and go for any of the platforms after it.

[warped spear]

hey guys, what do you think about the mouse vancer thrash?

[fiery sail]

if you can get it for 25$ its ok

there are plenty of similar or better mice technology wise for 25-50 bucks

liek the redragon m996 has 8k polling rate, similar wright and form factor, same sensor (paw3395) and the same 650 IPS speed

and for me thats 30€ including taxes and shipping

so in no world would i pay more than that for a slightly worse mouse, unless i knew the build quality, mouseskates or sth. similar were far superior

and redragon has a very nice support, like they will send you a replacement mouse no questions asked if yours fails or has a minor issue.

[warped spear]

i wanted something wireless yk
how about fgg mad g max?

[fiery sail]

you can detach the cable on the redragon

if thats the only issue for you

[fiery sail]

same feature set as the other 2

out of those unless you had a clear personal preference bc you tested how the buttons feel or looks, there is no reason to pay mroe for any of those

just pick the cheapest.

any paw 3395 8k polling rate mouse will be fine

if you have 2 or 3 favourites, watch reviews about all of them on youtube

[young spoke]

8k polling rate is a lie

your pc doesnt go above 1k in 99% of situations

its just straight up unnecessary

[flat dock]

i imagine your OS processes the 8k polling rate its just not noticeable

but i dont know about windows for sure

[young spoke]

unless your cpu is a threadripper it probably doesnt use all 8khz

[flat dock]

that line of reasoning makes no sense

and doing 8 thousand interrupts per second isnt that crazy

i guess i unfortunately don't have an 8k mouse to test this

[fiery sail]

while pretty much true (and many even view 8k polling rate as a negative) the absolute stinkers of mice are complettely eliminated if you look for 4k+ polling rate for mice

[young spoke]

ehhh

[fiery sail]

like you wont get mouseskates that wear off in 2 weeks

[young spoke]

most 1khz+ mice ive tried are alright

[fiery sail]

most

there are absolute landmines in there

i mean i guess most of them are filtered out by paw 3395 tbh

but again thats most

and if it would cost you 3x as much thats terrible

but again, 4k+ paw 3395 are 20-40 bucks

its like the advertised response time on monitors

[young spoke]

absolutely not

[fiery sail]

no 1ms monitor actually has 1 ms

[young spoke]

refresh rate actually makes a difference

[fiery sail]

but its a damn good way of filtering those out that have terrible ghosting

even tho the 1ms is meaningless for actual response time rating

[fiery sail]

you somehow managed to tlak about 2 different topics that had nothign to do with what im saying

[young spoke]

you said refresh rate bro

[fiery sail]

oh lol

mb xD

[flat dock]

not if we have a 1000 hz monitor and are going above 🧌

[fiery sail]

response time obviously

i guess after the "re" muscle memory just kicked in

[young spoke]

past 360hz i cant see shit

[fiery sail]

but again, advertised response times are beyond useless for response time measuring, but its one of the best filters for terrible monitors

[young spoke]

human eye cant see past 24fps

[flat dock]

gigachad

based movie watcher

[young spoke]

i do agree somewhat

[fiery sail]

like if i had to take the cheapest monitor and had only 1 filter

[young spoke]

5ms monitors are alright

[fiery sail]

i would take 1ms response time

and OLED is cheating

[young spoke]

i saw a 5ms 4k 60hz monitor for 80 pounds

[fiery sail]

yeah 5ms montiors can be great

[young spoke]

was actually considering that for a second

[fiery sail]

even outperform 1ms ones in response times

but some 5ms monitors

bro u can watch the whole lord of the rings films on another monitor until 1 pixel shifted colours

[young spoke]

unrelated but i need help ong

[fiery sail]

e.g. all miniLED monitors usually are great

but then there is the Acer Nitro XV5 XV275UP3biiprx

and that one has the worst menu u will ever encounter

[young spoke]

VA mini led isnt actually that bad

[fiery sail]

exactly

got one myself

literally 0 ghosting

[young spoke]

VA is universally ass outside of like 3 monitors

[fiery sail]

i much prefer a high quality VA over a hig hquality IPS

[young spoke]

yeah

[fiery sail]

but thats the thing

[young spoke]

IPS is just a safer bet

[fiery sail]

high quality

low quality

[young spoke]

IPS is like pizza even a "bad" one is atleast a 6/10

[fiery sail]

and u might have the lord of the rings thing again

and if u filter for 1ms response times

within VA

all the landmines are out

[young spoke]

not really

[fiery sail]

despite 1ms meaning beyond nothign for response times

[young spoke]

there are shit really cheap 1440p VAs with 1ms

[fiery sail]

i mean give me one
but even if, imo 1ms is the best filter within VAs (and IPS) to filter the landmines out if you only were allowed 1 filter

[young spoke]

i just realised how depressing this basket is

[fiery sail]

1.25 for 45????

[young spoke]

yeah

thats what i thought

[fiery sail]

do they have silents?

xD

[young spoke]

no

[fiery sail]

nsdjkfgjklhdskjfhgsdjkhfdsd

[young spoke]

those are KTT kang white v3s iirc

basically a basic bitch 60g linear

[fiery sail]

to me those are just letters, even fro mthe switches i know and own i immediately forget their names

[flat dock]

my monitor has terrible response time but at least its cheap, 4k, and pretty good color

[fiery sail]

like my brain just instant ctrl+A → backspaces names

[flat dock]

i think it ties my macbook in picture quality because macbooks are way oversaturated

[young spoke]

can i lube this knob

[flat dock]

keyboard science has gone too far

[young spoke]

kinda rattly

[flat dock]

do it

[fiery sail]

and tbh those are perfect as 2nd monitors when u eventually get a new one

[flat dock]

as long as you dont fuck up however it registers the knob movements

[young spoke]

also my space bar just keeps giving up on life

[flat dock]

true but i might run out of desk space at that point

its 27" when my second monitor currently is 24" and thats about the limit

i could move my tower off the desk though

[fiery sail]

unless u need a standing desk that can convert

highly recommend buildign a desk urself

liek its dirt cheap

and u get actual wood or materials u want

instead of cheap plates with a plastic cover

[flat dock]

my current desk is pretty good though except from not being adjustable

its made out of oak or something

super thick

[young spoke]

ok i swap switch hopefully it behaves

[fiery sail]

like i got a 2.2mx1.4mx4cm massive wood plate, side panels, feet, oil, paint, armrests for 80€

and plenty of spair parts

like screws, paint and angles

got to reuse the angles and screws when i built a shelf and saved 10€ that way

and i could put 3 32 inch monitors here, on their feet, no monitor arm and still ahve space left for my PC, subwoofer and a bajillion dirty paltes and bowls because im lazy

[young spoke]

ok this switch is odd

it double types

but only on discord

[fiery sail]

seems more liek a discord issue

after all they still hold the crown for bugs/line of code by a mile

[young spoke]

also

why does my enter key wobble on the stabs more then the other stab keys

[fiery sail]

that is fucked up

like i just noticed my caps key doesnt have stabs at all and that one wobbles a lot

but at least it doesnt get stuck

and like who ever uses caps lock

but enter

[young spoke]

bruh

crack already

[fiery sail]

are those the 1.25?

[young spoke]

my previous enter key cracked after 4 months and this one cracked after 4 days

[young spoke]

wdym 1.25

[fiery sail]

pounds

[young spoke]

that’s the enter key

[fiery sail]

oh

yeah i mdumb

my brains sees a cross and thinsk switches

[young spoke]

dang you stupid as hell

this is the second enter key ive gone through bruh

give me a break ong

[fiery sail]

95% of time i have seen the connection between the 2 i saw the switch

not the cap

[worldly garden]

Lol

U abused your keyboard well

What switch did u use

[young spoke]

im not bruh

[young spoke]

ajazz gift switches

none of the other keycaps have broken

[worldly garden]

Giant ass stems could crack ur keycaps if u pop it out frequently

[young spoke]

they arent big

they fit on the keycap perfectly fine

[worldly garden]

Yeah if it fits in way too smooth and got no resistance u should be concerned

Is worn out

Buy dcs

[young spoke]

wdym

[worldly garden]

Or any mid range pbt

Since u dont like gmk because u are tight on budget

[young spoke]

wdym worn out

[flat dock]

Those are some fucked up stabs wow

Oh nevermind

It was the enter key crack?

I've been suggested to try SP DCS keycaps

[worldly garden]

Is broken

Like cracked

[worldly garden]

Old dcs is fire

[young spoke]

literally less then a week old

[flat dock]

are they the stock keycaps?

[young spoke]

no

the stock keycaps broke after 4 months

these

[young spoke]

they don’t sell individual keycap sets though

[worldly garden]

Is 10 quid

[worldly garden]

Is a keycap maker wdym

[flat dock]

Maybe the switch stems are badly manufactured

[worldly garden]

No is too big

[flat dock]

Yeah something like that

[young spoke]

the stems definitely aren’t the issue

the stock keycaps only broke where the stabs make contact

[flat dock]

Maybe badly made stabs then?

[young spoke]

the broken keycap is still usable

[young spoke]

no because the other keycaps broke on the switch contact point

[worldly garden]

Big ass stens

Like cherry or kalih stems

[young spoke]

5 other keycaps on different switches also broke

[young spoke]

ajazz ones

none of my other keycaps have broken

[flat dock]

I wonder who makes the ajazz switches

[young spoke]

idk

it definitely isn’t the switches

[worldly garden]

Thwn is the keycaps

[young spoke]

no other keycaps have broken

[flat dock]

you need gmk keycaps

[worldly garden]

Throw it away

[worldly garden]

???

[young spoke]

i don’t have £800

[worldly garden]

Gmk tends to easier to crack

[fiery sail]

900?

[flat dock]

really

[young spoke]

what else do i put on my enter key

[worldly garden]

Especially the newer ones, if not used or take care of properly

[worldly garden]

Artisan

[flat dock]

there was a novelkeys sale the other day for $65 per base kit but yeah

[worldly garden]

U dont need that much

[young spoke]

why isn’t there a full set of DCS keycaps

[flat dock]

Wdym

[young spoke]

they don’t sell a full set

[worldly garden]

U want aio like kkb ?

[flat dock]

https://spkeyboards.com/collections/dcs-keycaps/products/dcs-richat

[flat dock]

Wrird

weird

[young spoke]

those are £80 i’m good bro

[worldly garden]

Buy what u need lol

[flat dock]

I guess you just buy all of them

[worldly garden]

Easy as rhat

[flat dock]

Together

[worldly garden]

Tkl add on is fine for tkl and under

Included modifiers

[flat dock]

is it uniform profile?

[young spoke]

it does not infact include modifiers

[flat dock]

Is dcs uniform profile

[flat dock]

Yeah you need the 60% modifiers

[worldly garden]

Lol buy the modifiers

[flat dock]

but there's no alternate sizes

[worldly garden]

What does alternate and iso offer

[flat dock]

so for a 75% it would be the wrong profile because it doesn't look like its a uniform profile

iso is just the iso enter, 1u slash. And small left shift stuff

[young spoke]

so i need

alphas 60% modifiers TKL modifiers and alternate

4 different shipping costs

[worldly garden]

Do u use a tkl

[young spoke]

that’s £64

dang

[young spoke]

no but i need F row keys

[worldly garden]

For what

[young spoke]

75%

also arrow keys and the 4 macros

[flat dock]

doesn't look like they support 75%

[young spoke]

that’s £17 per item

for shipping

so £64+£17x4

126 is gmk prices bruh

[worldly garden]

https://prototypist.net/collections/in-stock-keycap-sets

Grab something here

[flat dock]

ive sene people recommend ghost judges keycaps

[young spoke]

seems alright

idk why i need like 8 space bars of various lengths

[worldly garden]

Is called spilt spacebars, for psychopath hobbist

Hey swagkeys is real fine dude

Fibally u got smth good for your keyboard

[flat dock]

To support everything

[young spoke]

what about YMDK shenpo keycaps

@worldly garden what you think

they look alright

[ocean coral]

Are the wooting keyboards n shit brand name taxed or actually good

[young spoke]

not good

wooting boards are kinda ass

[flat dock]

HE in general is in kinda a mid spot right now

[ocean coral]

Fsir enough

[shut flame]

what controller should i get it has to be under 100

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008123654337.html?src=google&pdp_npi=4%40dis!CAD!155.57!76.68!!!!!%40!12000043887586187!ppc!!!&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&gclsrc=aw.ds&&albagn=888888&&ds_e_adid=&ds_e_matchtype=&ds_e_device=m&ds_e_network=x&ds_e_product_group_id=&ds_e_product_id=en1005008123654337&ds_e_product_merchant_id=5456782849&ds_e_product_country=CA&ds_e_product_language=en&ds_e_product_channel=online&ds_e_product_store_id=&ds_url_v=2&albcp=19366866438&albag=&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17337458112&gbraid=0AAAAACbpRIm_lNWCZcybXhG2hOE3xpu4F&gclid=Cj0KCQjw64jDBhDXARIsABkk8J78fH8OCWhnuiJWYieYvF4jnaeSReENSL1qKSM2r1vOJmdOQpki9p8aAhWFEALw_wcB

i was think this

but idk if its legit

[tardy saddle]

https://www.soundguys.com/steelseries-arctis-nova-pro-wireless-review-74616/

https://www.soundguys.com/arctis-nova-pro-wireless-2-wishlist-all-the-features-i-want-to-see-117369/

[shut flame]

alr i bought it

[worldly garden]

Do u have pro sweaty try hard gamer skill ?

If u does then get a he

If not then you shouldnt

[worldly garden]

i think is cheap pbt keycaps

[fervent breach]

are these topre stems

[worldly garden]

U must be trolling

[ocean coral]

I really just want smth that sounds buttery

[worldly garden]

dont mess with he keyboard if u want them to sound good

[young spoke]

HE sounds ass outside of a couple boards

[flat dock]

yeah there's plenty of very buttery mechanical switches

just gotta look around

I think HE would be less so

[hoary hearth]

what qd oled monitors would u guys say are good rn i was looking at some rog ,envia and alienware monitors

i mean the envia has such a great price but i cant make get myself to like it

[chrome mauve]

the $500 one

[karmic sleet]

good mousepads for fps like val or cs?

i also lost my headset mic

should i buy https://www.amazon.com/J-M-SHOW-Replacement-Detachable-Cancelling-Crystal-Clear/dp/B0DJ8QY6P6

or should i get a external mic?

i need suggestions

[fervent breach]

external mic

[fiery sail]

all the OLEDs are pretty great, as ice suggested, i would go with the cheapest one, unless you want specific features like 360Hz, matt/glossy finish or as you said QD instead of WOLED.
another factor would be updateable software (aka having a USB-A port) and a good OSD.
some people cant stand how an HDR monitor shows SDR content and have to swap fro mHDR to SDR every time they switch form e.g. watchign youtube to palying a game and if the OSD takes lore than 3 inputs to get there it can be really annoying over time.

so ultimately i would look at how many monitors are within 20-30$ to the cheapest and watch reviews o nthem, e.g. by monitors unboxed or go to RTINGS.com
otherwise you could set a budget and wait for one of those to drop below the budget mark.

dont be too firm on out oif the box colour accuracy btw, almost all OLED monitors have an ICC profile that you can just download and it will be very good.

if you got any follow up question feel free to ask

[karmic sleet]

but which

[errant epoch]

https://setra.mk/product/aoc-q27g4xf-27-180hz-0-5ms-ips-qhd-gaming-monitor/ or https://www.anhoch.com/products/monitor-27-gigabyte-gs27qa-ss-ips-led-gaming-1ms-180hz-oc-2560-x-1440-qhd-2xhdmidp-tilt-6520

[fiery sail]

if those are the only 2 options, definitely the 2nd one

unless you really want the swivel option that the aoc stand has

[void geyser]

shenpo caps good

honestly, if you're not fussed about it, Aifei also pretty good

[errant epoch]

If you dont mind i can send you the two sites where i can buy monitors from

[void geyser]

won't be caught dead paying hundreds for keycaps

couldn't be me

[errant epoch]

we dont have amazon here

[fiery sail]

if its the 2 sites ur on, setra and anhoc i already got them i suppose 😊

[errant epoch]

yep, and this one https://ddstore.mk/catalog/category/view/s/Monitors/id/216/?price=0-200&product_list_dir=desc&product_list_order=price

price limit is 200 eur or 12000mkd

we had a pcpp copycat for a bit in our country but its down now :/

[fiery sail]

thats sad, price comparison websites are so incredible

[errant epoch]

We are too small of a fish to fry for pcpp to care, but it probably got taken down by one of the stores because it showed the price disparity between most of them

[fiery sail]

pcpp is trash

in finding prices

they legit have like 10% of the market

when i do a pcpp list for a full pc i usually save around 10-30% when comparing prices on other websites

in 19/20 cases chatgpt already finds better deals than pcpp

[young spoke]

i just need them to not break really

if they don’t do this then i’ll be good

[void geyser]

unless you're going for no name chinese shite

[young spoke]

fair

going to buy the gary keycaps

[fiery sail]

@errant epoch what is your GPU, CPU and ram btw, do you have other monitors than the one you will be buying and what games do you play

[young spoke]

disagree

in the uk atleast it’s absolutely the best site to find cheap as shit pc parts

[fiery sail]

its the best bc there is nothign else decent

not bc its good

[young spoke]

the only way you’ll find stuff that’s cheaper is finding a once in a life time jeff bezos personally giving you amazon deal

[fiery sail]

send me a pcpp list in the UK and i'll find it 10% cheaper or better

[young spoke]

not used?

[fiery sail]

all new

[errant epoch]

pcpartpicker.com/list/2Dv7HW

the ram is at 3000mhz due to 3200mhz causing mem instability, and to get it warantied it would take a month or two

[fiery sail]

and the only reason i say 10% is bc the UK doesnt ahve that amazing tools either.
i ngermany there is geizhals and idealo and they will find u every single thing ever that is in the internet

[young spoke]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YBB9Zc

[errant epoch]

i have a samsung t220 from 2008 16:10 monitor 1680x1050 and some cheap 720p monitor as a secondary one. I am thinking of going ips instead of va due to wanting to get an experience without ghosting. I play a wide variety of games, both singleplayer, coop and competitive games (rarely doe because my other peripherals suck aswell)

[fiery sail]

https://www.quzo.co.uk/32gb-6000mts-ddr5-cl32-dimm-kit-of-2-fury-renegade-white-xmp-kf560c32rwk232-pid351270.html?awc=19849_1751448172_27bfc3684e47ab6c14917b861f2f3620

[errant epoch]

btw private do you think the jump to 1440p is worth it?

[fiery sail]

for most people it is, especially at the fairly managable price cost and FPS drop with your 6800.
in the very demanding games you will need to lower settigns and use upscaling, and 6000 series upscaling is kinda horrible

but especially if you are fine reselling and upgrading your GPU to e.g. a 9070, you are golden

[errant epoch]

i just upgraded from a rx 570 😢

[fiery sail]

if you want to stay on that system for 4+ years wit hno upgrades i would go 1080p

[errant epoch]

nah im probably not gonna play latest games on it

also in around 2-3 years im gonna be building a latest and greatest build

it was supposed to be this winter but irl stuff came up :/

[fiery sail]

feel ya

especially in that case i would probably not even get a new monitor and ahve those 12k around for when the upgrade hits

can make a huge diffference and on a system thats supposed to last long, every penny is worth twice as much

[errant epoch]

money isnt the issue, its just that im going to go to the uk to buy the system

because any part here is like double the price in the uk

a 5090 fe costed 4000 eur here at launch :/

[fiery sail]

and 12k instead of 6-8k doesnt really give u many benefits.
liek sure u can get 180Hz instead of 144 and slightly better response times, but you wont get to miniLED which would cost ~16-18k and that is a game changer

[errant epoch]

hmm

[fiery sail]

basically u are paying all that money just to get more pixels, which comes at a tradeoff in FPS and quality settings

[errant epoch]

i want a new monitor aswell to not put as much strain on the hdmi port with this adapter abomination

[fiery sail]

like on your current monitor u can blast even cyberpunk at ultra settings 100+ FPS with 0 upscaling

and that will probably be the same for any titles released in the time until u build that really great machine

[errant epoch]

yea but the colours and the brightness suck :/

it was a shitty panel even in 2008

it got picked because it "looked cool" because of bessles

[fiery sail]

https://ddstore.mk/pid/1010274

[fiery sail]

its a bummer u cant overclock ur CPU

[errant epoch]

i dont think my motherboard would handle it either way

[fiery sail]

y thats why

only the z boards support OC

with intel

[errant epoch]

eh a zboard would cost more than double the cpu LMFAO

[fiery sail]

AMD has OC even on their budget boards

yeah intel pricing tis so terrible xD

[errant epoch]

pretty much anything thats above 4060ti/5600x level (so lower midrange?) gets exponentionally more expensive

in my country\

[fiery sail]

also a basic OC support should not be locked to the ultra high end boards

liek thats just disgusting

[errant epoch]

even if i could i wouldnt oc ngl

[fiery sail]

i was so poor when i built my PC i stil lahve the mobo from, that i didnt even buy a case to save money

[errant epoch]

I like my parts lasting as long as possible

[fiery sail]

and still i can OC my CPU and upgrade 6 years later

on a board that cost 50€ in 2019

[errant epoch]

I still use my 2008 pc from time to time

BTW

How good would Minecraft run on a 1440p game

.monitor

I just remembered that I didn't mention it

And it's my most played gams

[fiery sail]

highly depends on texture packs and mods

[errant epoch]

I probably have 3000+ hours in

[errant epoch]

Vanilla, the toaster shaders, 16 chunks

Chocapic toaster edition

[fiery sail]

that would probably run at 100 FPS on your old machine in 1440p with the 570

and yes, original doom, NES tetris and minesweeper will also be just playable 😄

[errant epoch]

Im still used to kwwpening all settings at medium/low

[fiery sail]

i still cant recommend 1440p for you

i wont stop you

but unless you buy a monitor that is so good you wouldnt want to repalce it when you do your final build

i cant recommend spending more than the one i linked

u will get more enjoyment out of the money later

[errant epoch]

I don't think I'm gonna replace it either way but alr

[fiery sail]

you really, really, really should

[errant epoch]

The possible 1440p one?

[fiery sail]

no more as in when u get the high end build, a miniLED/OLED monitor will make more of a difference than going from a 6800 to a 5090

[errant epoch]

I would have to get those local doe :/

[fiery sail]

especially for minecraft

depends a bit on the perosn of course

[ocean coral]

What is the point of keyboard sounds if you’re gonna use headphones anyways

[fiery sail]

like some will appreciate the better image more than others

[errant epoch]

A 1440p oled costed 700 eur this winter when I was looking et it

[ocean coral]

Unless you’re a psycho and use speakers

[fiery sail]

miniLED

[errant epoch]

Only 2 mini led are available

[fiery sail]

whould be around half the price

give it 3 years

also which ones are available at what price?

u dont need 10 good offers if there is 1

[errant epoch]

Uh

AOC something 1440p for 300 eur

[fiery sail]

yeah, thats much better value than non miniLED for 200

[errant epoch]

Which was the better of the two

its va doe

[fiery sail]

va doesnt mean bad

for high end monitors me and many others prefer VA over IPS

[errant epoch]

i have been told that va has ghosting while typing

[fiery sail]

the issues of VA only really exist for the low wend ones with terrible response times

like the ghosting

IPS has the same thing

if u get a bad IPS

this "VA has ghosting, IPS has not" is advice that was inaccurate in 2005

and is completely useless in 2025

the only issue of VA is the viewing angle

like if ur not even in front of your monitor and drastically to the side it will glow

but as someone who is sittign in front of an IPS panel and a VA miniLED

my IPS is actually worse when it comes to ghosting and repsonse times

my VA doesnt have any visible ghosting at all

[errant epoch]

hm

[fiery sail]

the only things that are uniformly true for both is that VA has beter contrast while IPS has better viewing angles

if viewing angles dont matter to you, as for most people, VAs are cheaper and have the better image

[errant epoch]

i have a total allocated budget of 400 eur for this season and i was planning on gettings , and i wanted to upgrade my mouse(50 ish eur), get a bambu a1 mini (150 eur) and a monitor

[fiery sail]

the only terrible mini LED monitor that i would avoid at all costs btw is the Acer Nitro XV5 XV275UP3biiprx

that thign stinks, mainly bc of software

and it has a minor ghosting issue

[errant epoch]

these were the oleds

that i mentioned earlier

but non of the links work anymore

[fiery sail]

i wouldnt consider OLED for you even if you wanted to increase budget

i would either go the 4.5k IPS that i sent earlier

or miniLED

[errant epoch]

let me see if the mini led is available

[fiery sail]

the in betweens are not worth the price uplift

and not spending those extra 8-12k can come towards an OLED or maybe 4k monitor for your high end build

or might be the difference between a better CPU/GPU

all that is much more value to 99.99% of people than having more Hz for 2 years

[errant epoch]

325 eur

[fiery sail]

and 1440p with your system just comes with a lot of downsides when ur not playing minecraft ofr indie games

[errant epoch]

but this is from a shitty retailer

[fiery sail]

also there is no need to pull the trigger right now

you could monitor sales for the upcomning weeks

and if ur lucky find one for like 15 or 16k

usually miniLEDs are ~320€ here

[errant epoch]

nah this is the only mini led model

[fiery sail]

but i got mine half a year ago for 260€ on a sale

and there are dozens if not hundreds of 1440p miniLEDs out there in the world

they will come to your country

over time

my top solution would still be the 4.5k monitor

[errant epoch]

hmm alr

ngl this is a nice breath of fresh air compared to other discords

most of the time whenever you ask for anything they try to convince you to make financially dumb decisions instead of being smart with the money lol

[fiery sail]

if you want to go with some other monitor, feel free mate, its your decision and worst case its a minor mistake you can learn from and know for the future if you even appreciate visuals that much

but i cant recommend spending 3x the price of a 100Hz IPS for a 180HZ 1440p

[fiery sail]

there is a lot of elitests here too that call you dumb after 2 seconds if you dont already know and agree with all they say

my no.1 priority with tech help is to get people into gaming who think they cant afford a gaming PC

[errant epoch]

iirc