peripherals

[worldly garden]

If its saygamingkeyboard on their name their place is in the recycle bin

In the worst scenario the took both

[coral ferry]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Winchester_92_short_rifle_transparent.png

[dim loom]

Maybe, maybe

[coral ferry]

If I ever owned a lever action rifle, the first thing I would do is replace all the flathead screws with philips

[dim loom]

Why tho?

Sounds like you have very personal feelings about flatheads there pardner

[worldly garden]

Just get those glocks man

[dim loom]

Nah, 9mm blow the lungs out of a person

[worldly garden]

The only good purpose for firearms are “self defense “

[dim loom]

Let me larp as wyatt erp man :v

[worldly garden]

Bad guns equals have fun

Depends

I learnt to assemble and disassemble a kalashikov in 1 minute

[coral ferry]

No target practice or recreation?

"that panel of steel is coming right for me!"

[dim loom]

Cowboy shooting 😄

[coral ferry]

Please don't shoot cowboys...

[dim loom]

Not shooting cowboys.....

[cunning fable]

Hello, im wanting to replace my keyboard/mouse cause they are showing alot of wear, currently got huntsman elite/deathadder v2, had them for 5 years near daily use and have been fine
looking for something similar? was thinking either huntsman v3 pro or apex pro gen 3.. not sure on mouse

[worldly garden]

U should stop buying shit brands now man

[cunning fable]

then what brand? i just go with what i know works

[worldly garden]

Whats ur budget

[cunning fable]

£150~ i guess?

[spring dew]

Is that for the keyboard or the combo

[cunning fable]

keyboard - i have 0 clues about mouse prices and stuff

[spring dew]

Are there any feature you care about?

[cunning fable]

as in wired, full size?

[worldly garden]

Ajazz ac100

Keychrons

[crisp patrol]

ajazz slop

[cunning fable]

Uk layout?

[dreamy peak]

wont find many if any decent uk layout keyboards

if this is for gaming id reccomend tiger lite gaming kit with the venom pcb and geon raw switch 50gf

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-tiger-lite-gaming-keyboard-kit?variant=42892608733323

venom pcb and switchs are an extra

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keyboard-stabilizer/products/typeplus-x-yikb-screw-in-stabilizer?variant=42919037141131

these stabilsers

[spring dew]

What’s wrong with Ajazz?

[worldly garden]

Its chinesium and works

We all know is slop

[ionic briar]

Yea, ajazz stuff is sloppy given so many chinese boards with exceptional quality for the price

[grizzled kestrel]

Get a colt navy not army. Unless bigger is what you are going for. Just easier to find ammo for and reload.

It's a .36 cal instead of the .44

[worldly garden]

Isnt viet are filled with 10 million chonese slops

[ionic briar]

i dunno man
kinda racist if you asked me

[worldly garden]

Those are everywhere and actual good custom are expensive iirc

[ionic briar]

neo is chinese slop in your opinion?

[worldly garden]

No ?

Where i said neo is slop

Lol

[ionic briar]

recalibrating my definition of good
then yea, good stuff is indeed expensive
lucky65 is already 1mil vnd
neo65 is like 4 mil

[worldly garden]

If u are getting neo for 4m u are cooked

[ionic briar]

given that the average salary is like what, 10 mil in the cities or something?
yea good luck buying one

[worldly garden]

Those go for 2m and a bit more at most

[ionic briar]

ok whatever xd

im just out of the loop since 2021

[worldly garden]

Source for 4 mil neo65 ?

[ionic briar]

havent killed my gk61x for eons, probably not anytime soon

[ionic briar]

lazy me look at the price on mokb

[worldly garden]

Bought mine picked up in mokb

Oct 2024, 3.3m

It was never 4m even brand new man

I even spare myself a ovd weight

Lol

Gotta trade those for gold pvd

And a solder pcb

[ionic briar]

as i said, im lazy

whatever, it's not like I have a horse in this race

[worldly garden]

Im talkong about those aula thingy

Thats absolutely speechless to talk about

Aule and whatever budget brand is

Madlion

Etc

Neo and kbdfans u cant really go wrong with them

Most keyboards are made in china though !

[shut gyro]

get a smith and wesson frfr

[crisp patrol]

blows

[pulsar eagle]

Has anyone used the Keychron K5 Max with brown switches?

[jagged remnant]

Any camera people here?

[flat dock]

no but I've used the regular K10 with brown, does that help

What are you asking fot

[pulsar eagle]

Just if the typing feel is any good, really.

[flat dock]

do you have any mechanical keyboards youve used before to compare to

it's subjective whether it feels good

[dim loom]

Bru its literally a cap and ball revolver :v
It bigger in size than a colt SAA, yes the boolet is smaller, but the gun is bigger

[worldly garden]

Mods we need firearms chat

[grizzled kestrel]

it being cap and ball will make it easier to find ammo for

and the point of bullet being smaller means easier to shoot my guy

and the gun is not really bigger

idk where you are getting that

[grizzled kestrel]

what about the peripherals for my firearms

They both have pros and cons, but it is entirely up to preference.

[dim loom]

Yeah and 10 minutes to reload

Real life aint RDR2 my dude, you wont reload a colt navy in 10 seconds

I get that shooting black powder is fun, but I personally preffer my wheely gat to not chain fire

Somehow this went from wooden interior for PC case to guns :v

[wide plover]

I found some fossils

I’ve never seen a direct USB A to Mini USB B before

[worldly garden]

U have to lube the trigger

Then spring swap ur chamber

[pulsar eagle]

I have a Razer Blackwidow v3 Pro at the moment, and everything aside from typing feel is garbage

Something similar or better than that would be good

[flat dock]

if you like tactiles you might consider the banana switches, it's kinda like a stronger form of browns

[opal ocean]

is there a good black keyboard

thats not too expensive

[pulsar eagle]

Sounds good, thanks.

[flat dock]

also consider the v3 max as well, it's a soft keyboard

k8 max should be pretty stiff i think

[worldly garden]

Whats ur budget

[grizzled kestrel]

I'm well aware it takes longer to reload. You don't buy a cap and ball revolver for how quickly you reload it. Also depending on what colt army you get, it could be black powder albeit less common. If you reload your weapon correctly it shouldn't chain fire. People often get rounds that are too small for it. You want the round to be a little bigger and the outside of the ball shear off.

[grizzled kestrel]

.

I'm going to die on this hill with my colt navy in hand.

[final field]

is Kaloc DS110 17-33 a good monitor arm for MSI G2412?

[karmic shard]

i

[gentle latch]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-zenbook-14-14-fhd-oled-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-ultra-9-32gb-ram-1tb-ssd-jasper-gray/6615729.p?skuId=6615729

is this good for laptop

[chrome mauve]

yes

[gentle grove]

Are Steel Series Producets any good ?

[spring dew]

What do you guys think of the GK GAMAKAY TK75 V2 75%

[spring dew]

Like the mouse pads?

I think they are good budget options and if thats the max you can spend then yeah the product is trust worthy and works and is better than no mouse pad for sure

[dusty aurora]

anyone know a decent 200$ ish 1440p monitor?

[worldly garden]

lovwe it to see people buying shit

[native sundial]

Literally any 27” IPS nowadays

[lime ridge]

i was looking at this for a 1440p 27" monitor, i can get it for a bit cheaper at $480 AUD. how is it price wise?

https://www.ple.com.au/products/673262/aoc-gaming-q27g3xmn-27-2k-1440p-180hz-1ms-va-monitor?srsltid=AfmBOor3pVde2SH7bs3CRD3B0d4gJoKKu3Uy12ijndFcXo0lSnlfpBfgye8

if its not very good for the price do you have any other reccomendations (around that price point or cheaper)

[native sundial]

I don’t really know the AUS market sorry

[lime ridge]

would you be able to reccomend based on conversion (its around $300 usd), or are the markets too different

[grizzled kestrel]

dude has been blessed with a shit esthetic opinion

because wtf are those

[ionic briar]

that's bang on us price for that monitor
a fine monitor imo, it has decent diming zone count to provide you with a level of real HDR display

[lime ridge]

thanks for the advice, one more thing, i saw it was a VA panel just now. i'm not really big on the deeper blacks and whatever, especially since the one im using now is VA and has some annoying black smearing. do you have any monitor reccomendations with the same size and resolution but with an IPS panel?

[ionic briar]

https://youtu.be/SnS3DC3ClSI?si=98R5H-rccHkEcfb1
I would recommend the picks in this video. or you can look at their past review videos if you like
I think in testing the aoc doesn't exhibit crazy amount of black smearing as tradition of cheap VA panels?

[lime ridge]

the monitor looks good, i find myself playing a mix of multiplayer games and story games, which it seems to meet both. thanks for the help

[ionic briar]

oh yea, I forgot to mention. The reviewer is also australia-based, if you haven't found that out from the video.
so there should be some comments about the mentioned products in the context of the australia market

[lime ridge]

yeah i saw that, by the way i saw a comment which was talking about how "fast" the monitor was, that being noticeably slower than their previous monitor. i looked up the average response time of the monitor and it was 4.5ms. i'm not sure how that translates into real use, is that generally fine for a monitor as i'm not really sure what "fast" means.

[ionic briar]

I would say that it's fine for the majority of users, especially if you haven't been spoiled by high refresh rate OLED panels
a comparisons chart from a different review gives you a perspective of how things stands atm

OLED is the fastest with basically zero ghosting, but its also decently more expensive and there's a risk of permanent burn in with current OLED technology
Then you have the 3 LCD panel type, with TN the easiest to overdrive to high refresh rate number, but also has the most amount of disadvantage in picture quality (bad viewing angle is the big one)
VA and IPS are kinda the same in terms of performance when tuned, but cheaper VA panels suffers from black smearing like you mentioned. I guess it's because its harder to tune out the black smearing and brands dont want to spend that effort in such cheap products

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbQ8Pe4WVxc

[lime ridge]

ah makes sense, well I can go try this monitor tomorrow in person and see how it goes. I'll probably end up getting it because my normal monitor is 180hz but pretty bad, but when alt tabbing to my other monitor which is 60hz I get a driver timeout (weird known issue I know). Thanks for the help.

[dusty aurora]

Do you know if the omen 27qz is good?

[ionic briar]

I have no idea.
looks like a refresh of the 27qz, but that doesn't mean the performance is the same
the boring option that I remember of is the Dell S2721DGF

[dusty aurora]

Tbh it's between the omen and the G274QPF from msi

[ocean coral]

burn in feels overexagerrated

but what do i know

[ionic briar]

hence "a risk"
whether that risk is a big deal or not is up to your priority

[native sundial]

It is

Modern OLED panels, unless you’re purposely trying to burn something in, take care of themselves. Many gaming OLED monitors come with several year burn in warranties.

[bleak anchor]

What are some good budget wireless headphones? I was looking at these.

[bitter oar]

Jbl tune 700 series, ugreen max5c

I would avoid the m20x

[novel swallow]

fiber mall

[opal ocean]

im just gonna get the apex pro mini

[bitter oar]

why

[worldly garden]

best of luck

thats not a good keyboard imo

but up to you

[warped finch]

Is this a good keyboard?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01L6L451Q/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

[worldly garden]

no

[young spoke]

no

for £40 theres better

[worldly garden]

keychron c3

[young spoke]

thats £40?

dang it is

[copper hollow]

Hi, what would be a good second monitor for a 34 inch ultrawide 1440p monitor? Mainly using for gaming & game dev. 🙂

[full plover]

Rough budget might help, have one I like but got it during holiday sales a couple years ago https://a.co/d/hYOCnjg is 4k 144Hz the kvm functionality is a nice bonus if have Usb-C on a laptop that can support everything (works well for a couple laptops I have and switching to desktop). Isn't ultrawide but is pretty wide/big/crisp display, took bit of a gamble on monitor from motherboard company but happy with it still, is good for text and decent refresh rate (usually get one or the other). Looks like they only have refurb options now so would look for newer models but can't complain

[maiden thunder]

mouse

help

plis

[charred plank]

Look into linky 87

[worn storm]

Any real consensus on oled ultrawides? Seems like everyone is just rehashing the same two panels?

[young spoke]

budget and what do you want from it

[young spoke]

that’s £50

elec fox as usually probably illegally discounting items

the shipping cost + base cost is the exact same as the undiscounted price

considering they’ve done that before where they put something on discount and just move the discount to the shipping cost when the item typically had free shipping i wouldn’t doubt they’re doing again

[charred plank]

It's 50usd after shipping to the us...

It's not illegal to charge shipping

I think we went over this before?

I really hope you don't need someone to explain again why charging for shipping will vary location to location and why charging shipping isn't illegal...

[young spoke]

and it was 100% illegal

[young spoke]

because they didn’t charge shipping

it was £40 with no shipping before

and now it’s £30 with £18 shipping

marketed as a discount when your being charged more

the other board was £89 with £0 shipping off sale and £57 with £32 shipping when it was “on sale”

i still don’t know how your struggling with this lmao

that’s pretty obviously illegal since they’re marketing a sale

[charred plank]

Free shipping is a promotion and they aren't mandated to offer it however much Amazon may have brain rotted you to believe so

A discount is also a promotion that they can choose to offer or not

Idk if you've just never shopped off of Amazon your whole life

[young spoke]

they never promoted free shipping

[young spoke]

they can’t just say there’s a discount and charge the exact same amount

that’s quite literally against the law word by word

you can’t claim a discount and then charge the exact same price idk why you can’t understand that

the shipping + discounted price= the original price with shipping= scam and is illegal

[grizzled quarry]

cringe

[young spoke]

real

[charred plank]

Again... Idk why this needs to be explained but free shipping isn't a right... they also say and always have said shipping under the price or say shipping calculated at checkout. If at checkout your shipping was free at one point, it doesn't guarantee you life long free shipping.

There is also no mandate for each consecutive sale offered to be better than the last

If I run a coffee shop and I offer 50% off one week then the next week I do buy one get one free it's not a crime, it's a different sale.

If I do 30% off the next week it's also not a crime.

In the same sense, if I do 60% off the next week, I'm still not mandated to even offer a sale the consecutive week.

[opal ocean]

it looks good

and i guess people say its alright

[crisp patrol]

read

[crisp patrol]

nowhere did this say free shipping

[bitter oar]

for that kind of money you can get much better tbh

unless you got it for like <50$

[bitter oar]

it would be only (possibly in some regions) illegal if they would state they’re selling a good at a “greater discount or even cheaper the item itself” despite the previous prices being the same or less excluding shipping and you’d need to find an argument or prove that their fake discount and the hike in price aren’t justifiable due to a reason, if the item was already “discounted” and the seller or retailer doesn’t directly or similarly state that their new discount is better than their previous considering inflation, market fluctuation, etc, etc. you can’t confidently or at all say what they’re doing is illegal, you can theorerize about it at most

also gotta consider competition, if the seller is just shuffling prices and discounts around but the end product/good is the same price or cheaper than the competition…

you would have hard times convincing judge if you’d actually sue them for that or anyone really

international shipping is pricey on heavier items, also gotta consider some of the greedy delivery companies that charge premiums for their service, you’re free to ask the sellers of the keyboard if they wouldn’t provide a cheaper/economy shipping alternative

[sick flint]

Is the Ajazz AK820 Max HE worth getting?

[bitter oar]

price?

[sick flint]

Depends where you get it

[bitter oar]

i never thought of that

[sick flint]

But around $70

[bitter oar]

too high

mg75 from irok

would probably be better

or do you need the knob

[sick flint]

Idk it has a 4.9 star rating

And has magnetic switches

Though it’s not metal

So I’m not sure

[bitter oar]

mg75 has too and and it’s casing is made of aluminum

[sick flint]

Lemme look

I’m only seeing the pro

And it’s like 50 more dollars

[bitter oar]

can you buy from china or asia

[sick flint]

Uhhh

Depends

I’m in Canada so

Holy

Wait

https://www.amazon.ca/Swappable-Mechanical-Keyboard-Percent-Switch-Grey/dp/B0CQCHCSK5

[sick flint]

@bitter oar what do you think abt this

[bitter oar]

55 cad is alright

[sick flint]

The pro is 85, it has 3 modes, screen and knob lol. But idk if that makes it worth it

[bitter oar]

i think it has different structure and more foam/sounds less hollow than the non pro

but i don’t think they’re worth that much

85 cad

anyways i gtg

[sick flint]

Idk I was looking for a decently priced 75% that sounds really nice and not super loud

Alright thanks for the help

[charred plank]

How inky 75 sounds foamless and here is how much foam it has. Just that thin low ppi foam sheet that's about as thick as the actual sockets. It also has an actual steel weight it seems, which I think makes it the cheapest weighted keyboard.

[worldly garden]

if you believ your guess, go for it

[opal ocean]

whats cheaper that looks like it

[worldly garden]

how much was that

[sick flint]

Anyone willing to help me find a keyboard?

[sick flint]

The space bar is so loud

@charred plank would you mind being able to help me find a keyboard

[worldly garden]

go ahead

[sick flint]

I was looking at the Ajazz AK820 Pro and I was looking if anyone had any other suggestions

[worldly garden]

so you have like 80-100 ish for a keyboard ?

[worldly garden]

look at those flex lol

[sick flint]

Around

Maybe a lil more

[worldly garden]

look at those 75% like bridge75 and rainy 75

[sick flint]

Alr

[sick flint]

Are you sure those are budget? Because these are like 100-200 dollar keyboards (CAD)

[full plover]

If your budget is $200 then yes 😄 they aren't cheap but most niche things aren't

[sick flint]

I said 80-100

Or around

[full plover]

If want "cheap" get generic hp or dell keyboard full on plastic, they work fine (not nice but functional), if want something nicer usually need to dig into what that means for you and varies a bit person to person or situation to situation (similarly what is cheap is subjective)

[sick flint]

Well I was looking at the Ajazz AK820 pro, I was just looking for suggestions similar to that

[sick flint]

Do you got any suggestions for me?

[full plover]

would suggest get a switch tester and try out some different switches/keycaps and see what you really want before searching for keyboards that have the types of switches you like (pressure/loudness), personally like to build things so bought a Nibble kit and put it together for my most recent one, QMK firmware makes it really easy to remap things with VIA their GUI/web based interface for adjusting key mappings or layers, but what works for me isn't going to be what works for everyone... recently have heard good things about nuphy75 (variants) but comes down to what features you want or don't want (media keys/volume knob, switch types, wired or wireless, temporary weapon for eliminating your enemies etc. 😄 )

if don't want to spend the time/money on key tester then can try at local electronics shop or wherever can get hand on keys but best to be able to try things hands on before making a call one way or another

[sick flint]

Fair enough, but basically the only local electronics shop is Canada computers, and let’s just say their selection isn’t very wide

It’s usually filled with lot of keyboards of main brand overpriced keyboards. Such as the razer keyboards, which are high quality just not for 200 dollars

[sick flint]

I looked into those nuphy keyboards, they look nice but I think a little out of my budget personally. All I can find them for is around 150 dollars, I mean it’s pretty good, it has magnetic switches, 8K polling. But it’s only wired which kinda sucks

Well if you got any build suggestions I’ll take them, I wouldn’t mind making my own keyboard

If it helps you out, I’m more into the deeper, creamier sounding keyboards. That are usually less loud

[full plover]

think "Air75" is their brand for the wireless versions, personally like wired since for desktop it kinda doesn't matter much to me but don't need to charge yet another thing and all but is ultimately lots of just preference stuff

[sick flint]

Not that, it’s just for the options, like let’s just say I’ll ever need it wireless I have it wireless. But any suggestions on building keyboards?

[young spoke]

it used to have free shipping

[young spoke]

there was no sale originally

£89 is the base price

the board was £89 off sale with no shipping cost

when it was on sale it was £57 with £32 shipping

meaning it’s the exact same price off sale as it is on sale

[young spoke]

i’m fully aware but they never had a sale before it

it wasn’t on sale before it was £89 one day with no marketed sale or anything and the next day it was 30% while still costing the exact same price

literal definition of a fake sale

the free shipping was never a promotion

the item was not on a sale or in any sort of promotion before going “on sale”

[worldly garden]

is 80-100 dollars

usd

my bad

[sick flint]

You’re good

[full plover]

Broadly would just look for "diy qmk" keyboards and see what's out there, the nibble stuff is geared towards "extremely diy" so they provide some basic kit of parts and PCB, but expect that you already know your way around soldering and doing some debugging with building firmware and flashing things. Other kits come in "more complete" state and might do a better job with hand holding through the setup process, but trade off in time building and picking all the individual components vs more complete sets/kits.

[worldly garden]

since when so called "magnetic switch and 8k polling" equals good product

[full plover]

Tbf most products where looking for cheapest options/cutting corners are gonna use "regular switches" over hall effect but polling rates are mostly marketing spiel

Hall effect based joysticks are worth it to me, never used keeb with hall effect switches, but not sure cases that would really matter except wanting to customize throw distance to trigger

Hall effect sensors for joysticks beat potentiometer based since they just don't suffer from drift or wear from moving the sticks and can just be smoother feeling too (super minor on the last point though)

[young spoke]

yeah

8k polling doesn’t affect anything really

[worldly garden]

regular switch works just fine

those who buy He because they are "cool" are all wannabe's

[full plover]

I agree was just sayin' there is some validity to higher cost components lending some credibility to overall product, I don't have a strong opinion about that particular company or hall effect vs not for keebs personally, into RC stuff though and for that the hall effect joysticks are "worth it" and definitely higher quality than the alternative

have heard of and seen "stick drift" on generic game controllers too so know it's not just some myth, the way potentiometers work and age just means they will all die before me 🙂

[bitter oar]

shipping costs something do you even understand how that works?

[ionic briar]

Yea
so far the most credible benefit of hall effect switches in keyboard is also long reliability
the others are in the mud in terms of latency advantage and other performance claim.

[young spoke]

yes

it was £89 with no shipping cost

it literally said £89.00+£0.00 at checkout

i’ve said this like 4 times now

[bitter oar]

free shipping is a discount on it’s self

[young spoke]

no?

it was never marketed as a discount

even if it was it’s still illegal to market something as 30% off when it’s the exact same price as before

[bitter oar]

excluding shipping costs

[young spoke]

yeah

including shipping cost it’s the exact same price

[bitter oar]

i bet you didn’t ask the vendor if they couldn’t offrer your a more economy shipping

[young spoke]

no?

why would i

[bitter oar]

again, if you’d actually sue them you’d had no chance winning over the judge

[young spoke]

i’m not going to buy off a seller that’s illegally discounting products

[young spoke]

why

[bitter oar]

i don’t really see any signs of deception or fraud in their selling

[young spoke]

it’s breaking the law literally word by word

[young spoke]

i do

the fact that the sale is the exact same price as the item was not on sale

[bitter oar]

because free shipping is a discount, promoting or not the changed discount despite the old “discount” being better is not illegal, they’re not claiming their new discount is better including shipping

[young spoke]

no it isn’t

[bitter oar]

also the shipping likely costs differently depending on the location

[young spoke]

no where did it say that free shipping was a discount it was just offered

[young spoke]

i tested this

[bitter oar]

because it is.

[young spoke]

i tested 30 different countries and it was the exact same shipping cost across all of them

[young spoke]

it wasn’t.

[bitter oar]

did you ask the vendor if they couldn’t offrer more eco shipping? you said no so your argument does not hold up

[full plover]

convo is kinda pointless, I mean is fine to feel robbed about it and make some noise but legality depends on locality and false advertising type claims pretty hard to make stick IRL

is okay if you all are having fun debating but my 2 cents

[young spoke]

no because they’re obviously not going to offer that

because they wouldn’t be able to sell the product at the exact same price as before

[young spoke]

true it just sucks

there isn’t anything i can do about it at all

even though it’s very obviously illegal

[bitter oar]

have you tried

[young spoke]

i will

i can guarantee that they won’t offer cheaper shipping

because the shipping cost isn’t actually the shipping cost it’s just the 36% added on because they don’t want to honour the sale

no matter what you change shipping address number of items being shipped etc it is always an extra £32 added on to the price + whatever other shipping cost it is for the other items

also btw something to add everything else on sale has a shipping cost that is exactly what you saved in the sale

[bitter oar]

there is no such thing as a free shipping cost without either a discount (attracting customers) or the shipping cost going into the product itself, they may have ended their free shipping offrer, you’re not exactly sure if they did intentionally to deceive customers or due to a different reason

[bitter oar]

if it’s X no matter the item count… you realize that’s pretty standard

[young spoke]

that’s just false

not everything that has free shipping has to be marketed as free shipping

[bitter oar]

yes?

[young spoke]

and it was never marketed as free shipping not once did they advertise it

[bitter oar]

so what’s your point

[young spoke]

it was just simply offered

it was never advertised as a discount or an offer

[bitter oar]

that doesn’t matter really, free shipping is a “discount” by any means it’s a common sense

[young spoke]

it was just the standard for that retailer for whatever reason

[young spoke]

no it isn’t

free shipping doesn’t always have to be a special offer or discount

especially when it isn’t marketed as such and is just standard for 3 years straight

as soon as something is put on sale it stops getting free shipping and the amount it’s on sale by is added in shipping cost

[bitter oar]

if they’re not announcing their new discount is better including shipping on single item orders i still don’t see your winning a lawsuit or really it being illegal

[young spoke]

??

[bitter oar]

shuffling discounts is not illegal

[young spoke]

no their announcing that your getting 36% off

[worldly garden]

i thought we brought this up months ago

[young spoke]

but you just are not getting 36% off

[worldly garden]

if u dont want to feel scammed buy somewhere else

🤷

[young spoke]

i did

[bitter oar]

it was already “off” by giving you free shipping

[young spoke]

not really

[bitter oar]

as i said, they’re shuffling prices

[young spoke]

that was never advertised as a sale or discount or special offer

[bitter oar]

do they guaranatee their current discount on single items is better than it was before the discount/s?

or claim

[young spoke]

it is illegal when your shuffling the prices and then saying that your offering a discount

[young spoke]

yes

[bitter oar]

it doesn’t matter if it’s advertised or not, free shipping is a discount…

[young spoke]

they advertise that the product is now cheaper then it was before

when that isn’t the case in any way

[young spoke]

that’s stupid

if it’s been offered for as long as the products have been it’s just the standard

[bitter oar]

as it was explained to you before free shipping even if it was offrered by the vendor for years, you cannot expect that as a standard

[young spoke]

that’s just silly from a legal perspective

whatever

[bitter oar]

you said the shipping stays at £32 no matter the item count?

if you buy three pieces of the keyboard you literally get a discount if the keyboard is now at £100 -> 75

that’s totally legal shuffling of prices

[worldly garden]

instead of arguing, better get a job that make u comfortable buying anything u want whether they have a discount or not

[full plover]

agree again even though I see the flaw in the logic is sort of telling homeless just buy a home, also can see argument just based on "principal of the thing" if being sold something as if it is "discounted" when really numbers have just been shifted around

[young spoke]

no its £32 per keyboard

[young spoke]

i do indeed have a job

[full plover]

thing is though usually "buyer beware" type scenario is hard to prove exactly how you were bamboozled

[worldly garden]

those occurs on marketplace where bad moderations on items pricing happens

aliexpress

[young spoke]

i’ll just not recommend that site from now on

[worldly garden]

etc

just avoid those

discount was a psychological trick to make u buy more products anyway

at last, buyers is the loser

[young spoke]

yeah

[bitter oar]

which website

btw

[worldly garden]

32 per slops

[young spoke]

elec fox

[worldly garden]

which fucking slops is that

[young spoke]

what

[worldly garden]

oh im asking what keyboard is that

[young spoke]

inky75

[worldly garden]

good deal

but u have to buy 3 units ?

[young spoke]

no?

if you buy 3 units it’s +£32 per keyboard

even if you ship it in the same order

[bitter oar]

i don’t see anything wrong here

normal price for international shipping

[young spoke]

they have a different deal now

idk why

[bitter oar]

…

[young spoke]

it used to be £89 discounted to £57

but now it’s £77 discounted to £53

[worldly garden]

maybe they are nice now

[young spoke]

idk

[maiden thunder]

greetings

[grizzled kestrel]

Why is shipping and taxes so much????

thats a 30% tax rate and even more for shipping

[worldly garden]

tariffs

[bitter oar]

EU

shipping also gets taxed

so that's why

[worldly garden]

trump

[grizzled kestrel]

yeah even with tariffs and taxes its still far cheaper then the EU XD

[bitter oar]

anyways i see americans complaining about their ~10% taxes meanwhile in EU, where i live it's 23% (on goods)

[grizzled kestrel]

What can I say, we really hate taxes.

23% and taxing shipping cost is crazy

[bitter oar]

Atleast if they would use the taxes wisefully, but currently our goverment is very corrupt and they be stealin money from eurofunds and taxes

[grizzled kestrel]

governments for you

[grizzled kestrel]

thank you for your service

[sick flint]

I was only looking at magnetic switches because they could actually be more useful than just regular switches. And for the price point I’m looking at, some options actually have them so

If the option is there, why not take it?

Even though I don’t think the polling does anything

[worldly garden]

if they are really more useful it would be the mainstream

not membrane or mechanical

[sick flint]

That’s just me personally, they don’t gotta be to everyone

Either way, they are more gaming oriented

[crisp patrol]

ah

[spring dew]

I am starting to feel like my need to get into a topic to try and make a good purchase is starting to be a pain again

[worldly garden]

hmm ?

[spring dew]

I didn’t wanna get into keyboards but now I am price comparing a custom vs prebuilt

[worldly garden]

to make what point ?

welcome to the rabbit hole

[spring dew]

To get a keyboard cause I feel like I could upgrade my k380

[spring dew]

Yeah I seem prone to those

Last time it was mouse pads

[worldly garden]

yeah

lets get one

why not

[spring dew]

So yeah looking at some silent options

[worldly garden]

those will type like your membrane

literally

[spring dew]

But what’s the upgrade then, is there a big difference from membrane to the other

I’ve just been looking at mechanical ones

[worldly garden]

i mean

silent switches

will gave out

the type feeling like membrane

[spring dew]

Membranes are more linear than tactile eighth?

Right*

[flat dock]

membrane has a tactile feel

[flat dock]

theres a lot of them out there, i would recommend the ttc silent bluish white but their quality is awful

most silent switches if you use a rigid plate like aluminum should be fine in terms of mush

[spring dew]

How would you recommend it if the quality is awful?

[flat dock]

theyre good if you i guess have less sensitive ears than me

and use a better keyboard for them so it absorbs the rattles

@spring dew do you know if you want linear or tactile

[spring dew]

Problem is I haven’t looked too hard in to switches mostly into sounds of far

So idk how the tactile bump feels

I like how my membrane feels but am not sure which is the proper equivalent

[flat dock]

linear just feels smooth like pushing a piston, if you can imagine
and membrane is tactile

[spring dew]

I’ll see if there is a place I can test them but tactile should be good

[flat dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVBCQt7kfxU

might look at this

[spring dew]

I’ll look into them for the custom ty

The prebuilts I am looking at are the:
GamaKay TK75 V2
Royal Kludge L75
EPOMAKER DynaTab 75X/none x

I heard the rt100 was good but I don’t use the num pad

[spare iris]

Replying to me for past context.

I'm pretty sure at this point that I'll need to buy the parts separately and build it myself, none of the pre-built ones seem to have all (or even most) of the things I need. I guess I could buy a fully built keyboard then swap out everything except the PCB and frame, but that seems unnecessarily wasteful.

That being said, I have no idea where I would buy a barebones kit (just the frame and PCB) from. Where would I look for that?

[worldly garden]

all of them are bad

keychron

[spring dew]

Oof, what do you recommend?

I am trying to stay under 130 Cad

Ideally the cheaper the better but yeah

[spare iris]

Huh, I didn't know they also sold barebones kits. Do you have any other recommendations for places to look?

[flat dock]

Honestly I don't think its worth buying a keychron barebones kit. If you just throw away the switches but keep the stock keycaps its the same price basically

its only like $30 cheaper and that's probably the cost of decent keycaps

[lavish python]

hi, anything better to get than the XG2431 for comp gaming?
(must be 1080p)

[cobalt eagle]

corsairs K70 pro is really underrated

[bitter oar]

my sister’s friend has/had one, it’s garbage

average gamer rattly, scratchy board

well, unless you don’t care, then the media features of the board are alright

and if you like the software for some reason ig? well not garbage just overpriced… poor.

[spare iris]

I'd prefer for the case to be actually a case around the pcb, and not just a baseplate like the K70 pro. I'm probably going to get a keychron then swap out the keys as makes the most sense, but I still need to figure out which model.

[native sundial]

I had a K65 I think and it was one of the worst boards I’ve ever touched lmao

[thick swan]

I will stick by steel series head sets and apex pro keyboar dnothing better

[cobalt eagle]

The one with hall effect switches right?

[worldly garden]

every version is garbage

[cobalt eagle]

Nah i managed to get one for 116€

Its like a lower quality wooting but not that low

But you dont have to pay nearly 3x the price for wooting

[cobalt eagle]

You also get a nice wristrest that wooting also doesnt include

[worldly garden]

a wrist rest is like 5 dollars

[cobalt eagle]

Nah a very cheap one is

A decent one is around 20-30

Ngl i expect way more from othet brands like wooting

360€

For almost the same keyboard

[worldly garden]

tiger lite gaming is 85 dollars

excluding switches

[young spoke]

it’s just expensive

way too much for what you actually get

[worldly garden]

i would rather buy a wooting over it

or even angry miao

cosair is a gaming brand all the way

[young spoke]

yeah

only good thing corsair makes is like psus really

how much even is the k70?

£140 that’s crazy

it’s at most a £60 quality keyboard

[worldly garden]

no

30

30 oem improved with media keys

and cherry switches

only thing they did right

[young spoke]

yeah

i hate the baseplate design over an actual case

anyway what are your thoughts on KTT macaron yellows? i might try them

[worldly garden]

i have never tried them

but u cant go wrong with ktt , to be hoenst

my thoughts on them generally they are just a bunch of recolors

until those ktt baby showed up

those pretty nice

for budget keyboards

[young spoke]

i wanna use them as a secondary switch for some feel on certain keys

[bitter oar]

nop

[bitter oar]

i pick left, you can always open a software or manual of what which key does 😂

[young spoke]

id pick right thats not that massive of an issue

i just tried to type with 2 index fingers and it was horrible ill choose left

[worldly garden]

lol

there are blank keycaps

[young spoke]

blank keycaps are fine imo

[worldly garden]

blank keycaps are really nice

[young spoke]

i just personally dont understand them

[worldly garden]

yeah if u touch type u will not be bothered

[young spoke]

i do i just dont like how they look

[native sundial]

They announced a 60HE v2 and it’s just…. A factory modded v1 basically? lmao

[worldly garden]

buy tiger lite gaming and save any troubles

[young spoke]

guys ibm model m2 for £20

is it worth it? the Ralt doesnt work

[worldly garden]

collection sure

do they look good

[young spoke]

im gonna get it and hang it on my wall

[worldly garden]

those shit loud as hell

[young spoke]

i’m gonna buy them

[charred plank]

Endgame

[bitter oar]

blue shell pink dots

[charred plank]

In stormbreaker max cf

Apparently it has the pin spacing for mech switches too

[worldly garden]

what is this ktt kang white reference

[flat dock]

H

[spring dew]

Btw did you have any suggestions

[worldly garden]

evo80

keychron

[spare iris]

Replying to me for past context.

Mostly figured it out, I'm planning on getting a Keychron Q3 Max (80% TKL) and Q0 Max (Numpad) fully assembled in black with brown and banana switches respectively. Still figuring out what accessories to get, but I'm almost definitely going to want purple keycaps (either like Type B in https://www.keychron.com/products/oem-dye-sub-pbt-keycap-set-unicorn (which is sold out), or like the bluish-purple ones for the Enter key on the dark gray/white smoke set (but for more keys than just those two)), at least for the keys on the sides (probably going to stick with the default ones for the letters and numbers).

So what exactly would I need to search for? My understanding is those colors are only really achievable with Dye-Sublimated PBT, and I'd be looking for either an SA Profile or KSA Profile to be used with a Cherry key (the plus-shaped stem). Is there anything else?

(also, where would I search for these.)

[opal ocean]

logitech keyboards good or nah

[worldly garden]

yes buy them, support their garbage

[young spoke]

£1.25 switches idk

[young spoke]

nah

overpriced

[bitter oar]

there have been many fake ktt switches

[young spoke]

i’ll try them

they’re literally £1.25 so there’s nothing to lose trying them

[bitter oar]

45 pcs for that price is a steal yeah

[worldly garden]

1.2 per ?

what

[young spoke]

per 45 switches

£1.25 for 45 switches

[worldly garden]

nothing could go wrong really

but i saw those deals before , where they suck all the prices into the shipping

like a 50$ shoe is selling for 1$, but when we check out the shipping gonna be 45-50 or wev

[flat dock]

bro what I assumed that was per 10

that's insanr

[young spoke]

shipping is £3 but i just created a new amazon account so you get free shipping for the first order

idk what happened to my old account i think it must of been deleted it just doesnt let me sign into it

[lofty bluff]

Are kaihl box white v2 switches better than v1?

[ionic briar]

LOL

[young spoke]

noctua not using their dogshit colour scheme (impossible)

the colours arent bad they just dont go with anything else lmao

their coolers are a great example of this

[ionic briar]

well yea, no shit sherlock
if they choose black or whatever then you gonna cry for another lazy rebadge

[young spoke]

no not really

[ionic briar]

I guess noctua has another colorway, the redux gray?

[young spoke]

that looks fine

mostly because other parts in your pc can fit with those colours

[azure breach]

it’s not just a colorway, they’re downtuned fans

they don’t perform as well as the non-redux fans

[ionic briar]

Yea I know. Just talking about color choice

We are talking about a mouse

[azure breach]

Just wanted to make sure you knew there was a performance penalty

oh lol

[bitter oar]

i like this

but fans inside mouses isn't anything new

also, you will have to use the mouse wired because the fans draws some powah

[bitter oar]

i don't like dusty gray out of all colors

i would go with the brown 'n tan color theme X'

[thorny ferry]

Chromax black

[spring dew]

Do you guys think the SKYLOONG GK75 or RK ROYAL KLUDGE L75 are worth it if I want a silent keyboard?

https://www.amazon.ca/RK-ROYAL-KLUDGE-Mechanical-Touchable/dp/B0F47ZLR6N?th=1
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0BM93CSVW?tag=keebfinder05-20&linkCode=osi&th=1

[shut gyro]

what the fuck

[wooden glen]

Lukewarm take: Noctua ugly asl

[prime mirage]

What’s a good controller for playing driving games and some shooters? One I was looking at was the apex 4 but I was a tad concerned after I read smth about quality control issues

[ionic briar]

that fan will draw 70mah, and the base feinmann has a 240mah battery

[prime mirage]

The 2 main ones I found that seemed like maybe options were the Vader 4 pro and the apex 4

[worldly garden]

https://imgur.com/a/royal-kludge-is-good-brand-you-should-buy-keyboards-x7LTFwp

[flat dock]

whyd they search "my rk61" lmao

[spring dew]

Cause I was asking if the rk l75 was good

[ionic briar]

and then here's me and my gk61x has not died yet for 4 years and counting
with couple big fistfull right in the center for good measure

Yes I gamer rage and smash the keyboard

[haughty mesa]

anyone know where to get a decent uk iso mechanical keboard

[flat dock]

keychron probably

[grizzled ruin]

Hey Guys my current Mechanical Keyboard is hhhhaving key shhhattering Issues. So Iam in thhhhhhhhhe market for a new one. Whhhats recommendet at thhhhhhhe moment?

[worldly garden]

gk61 is not rk61

[ionic briar]

I know, just saying

mate people were livid when I bought mine originally

[worldly garden]

is bad

but it works, obv

[young spoke]

i just generally wouldnt buy anything from RK

[worldly garden]

only dumbass will

[inland kayak]

Does this channel also include monitors or just the normal peripherals :3c

Stupid question ik but don't want to barge in out of category

[bitter oar]

yes

[inland kayak]

Oh alright

In that caseee

https://www.msi.com/Business-Productivity-Monitor/PRO-MP251-E2/Overview
1080p@120Hz, IPS (1500:1), HDR, 24.5in

Asking price I got was $93

Less relevant, but 2W speakers

DP, VGA and HDMI

1.4, Standard D-Sub, and 2.0 respectively

Thoughts?

Previous chosen monitor was a Pro mp225 21.5in, which didn't have HDR, and was 100Hz

[haughty mesa]

its $115

but it doesnt have vga if you need it

[spring dew]

Do you think the Gk75 is a good choice then for a silent keyboard?

[shut gyro]

fr

[young spoke]

i have no idea

i’ve never used it or used silent switches

[spring dew]

Fair enough thank you. Do you have any other brands I should out right avoid?

[young spoke]

i’d probably recommend getting a normal kb that you like and then getting silent switches

[young spoke]

no not really

other then the standard logitech razer e waste

[spring dew]

No clue what normal kb Id like ngl

[young spoke]

any particular form factor? aesthetic?

[spring dew]

75% is preferred since I don’t use number keys and need function keys.

Aesthetically. I don’t really care about rgb, and prefer quieter colors. Idm a darker color with a few pops of color, but honestly I am not too picky end of the day

The whole reason I am even thinking of upgrading is cause I’ve heard a good mechanical feels better to type on than a membrane

[young spoke]

yeah 100%

i’d recommend an ak820 pro just as a basic ass option

what budget?

if your willing to spend more then £60 i’d say a keychron v5 is alright

they also make a hall effect K2 now

[spring dew]

This and the Aula where keyboards I started looking at when I started

[spring dew]

Trying to keep it under 120 cad with some wiggle

Total

[young spoke]

they’re great options

i have an ak820 pro and it’s amazing

i would entirely recommend it

[spring dew]

I just found them both a little too poppy and wanted something quieter

[young spoke]

including switches i’d go for the ak820

ak820+silent switches

should be about like 80-90 cad

[spring dew]

I assuming you are not writing pro to just save time

[young spoke]

definitely get the pro version

its wireless and has a screen

[spring dew]

Yeah I know the none pro is really not as good

The none pro has worse keycaps

[young spoke]

screens a bit of a gimmick but it’s nice i guess

[spring dew]

Makes it echo more since it’s not a double fill, and the text quality is also worse

[young spoke]

they also make an ak820 max which is hall effect if your using it for gaming i’d get that

[young spoke]

yes

[young spoke]

idk how available silent switches are for HE boards

[spring dew]

I think I’d have to recheck the sound on that cause what’s the point in the max if I am gonna have to change the switches

[spring dew]

They exist, I just don’t know how good they are

[young spoke]

there’s some options tbf

[young spoke]

it’ll still be hall effect

[spring dew]

Oh so both the board and switches need to be Hall effect. Ig that makes sense yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVBCQt7kfxU

This is the guide bbaovanc posted

[young spoke]

it’s pretty good

[spring dew]

When I said I was debating a custom cause it might just drive me less insane that finding a prebuilt

[young spoke]

i’d do your research though on what you want from them

[young spoke]

a custom would probably be cheaper

i’d get a switch tester just to see what you want in terms of feel

[spring dew]

Yeah. Don’t wanna end up hating the keyboard I went crazy into a rabbit hole for a month for

[young spoke]

lmao

with a custom you can pretty much just change whatever you dislike

that goes with a lot of prebuilts too but custom especially so

[spring dew]

https://www.amazon.ca/MechLands-AK820-HE-Mechanical-Adjustable/dp/B0DB53VP63

https://www.amazon.ca/JAZZ-Wireless-Swappable-Mechanical-Bluetooth/dp/B0CQMB19S4/ref=asc_df_B0CQMB19S4?mcid=c70301037d463d53b98a4c4f6f8b86ec&tag=googlemobshop-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=706828866608&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10267980335033946007&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000858&hvtargid=pla-2291241054220&psc=1&gad_source=1&th=1

9 dollar difference which isn’t much, ig it comes to what the switches cost as an extra to be HE

Cause rn I am using wireless Bluetooth in my gaming

[spring dew]

Problem is I don’t wanna have to spend more money and time after I’ve set something up

I like things to be upgradable but not have to be upgraded if that makes sense

But yeah I’ll look into HE silent switches. Whatever switch type I like more I’ll go with

[young spoke]

i’d go with the max then

[flat dock]

lots of rubber dome options I believe

like raeds HE

[young spoke]

HE keyboards will sound a bit worse but with silent switches that doesn’t really matter

[young spoke]

damn

i know nothing about silent switches in general let alone HE silent switches

[young spoke]

i’d try the stock HE switches see if you like them first then get silent ones if you want

[flat dock]

there might be silent non-rubberdome switches as well but idk

I don't know anything about HE

I just have some of the raeds HE as a fun test since they fit mechanical plates

[young spoke]

cool

i might get a random ass HE board off aliexpress or something for gaming

really don’t care about sound or feel for gaming with HE switches

they even stole the strap lmao

[shut gyro]

epomakers not that bad

[young spoke]

that’s pretty funny

i might get it in the near future

[shut gyro]

just anything besides royal kludge

[spring dew]

How are they sound wise

[flat dock]

they sound quiet

like most silent switches it just sounds like keycaps

no switch noise

but I don't like that they don't have any tactile bump really

[spring dew]

https://www.amazon.ca/MechLands-AK820-HE-Mechanical-Adjustable/dp/B0DB53VP63

ordering it now

[finite salmon]

is Q6 the best I can do for full size barebones?

[spring dew]

I just realized why that Max He is cheaper than the last time I checked, it's the wired

tbh idc about wireless

[prime mirage]

What’s y’all’s opinion on the digifly Vader 4 pro?

[spare iris]

Other than Keychron and 8BitDo, does anyone know of any other companies that have a (good quality) hot-swappable numpad?

[worldly garden]

there are better options

[fiery sail]

any budget sim racing wheel recommendations?
sub 100€ would be perfect. (location germany, use geizhals.de for price comparison if you want
i just boot up old f1 games (in singleplayer) from time to time and my hands get fatigued because i grip the controller very tight.
if it wasnt for that i would stick to controlelr, which is why i really dont want to spend a lot

moza R3, logitech G920 etc. ar far too expensive for what im willing to pay

[inland kayak]

Cannot

Amazon / Newegg / Jawa are off limits thanks to shipping & shipping prices

If it even ships in Amazon's case, then it's 115+(~50-150)

Newegg outright doesn't

[azure breach]

not worth it under 100 euro

they won’t have force feedback, so it feels disgusting

if you’re gonna get a wheel, you need to spend more than that to make it worth it

[fiery sail]

cheapest one with force feedback is 125€
thrustmaster open wheel and t128

otherwise i found the logitech driving force GT for 40€ used several times

[young spoke]

try and find a g920/g29/g923 or thrustmaster tmx/t150 used

used your only real option here

[young spoke]

you get the open wheel with it?

that’s worth €125

the open wheel alone retails for €150+

[fiery sail]

i think its without clamps

nothign specified about any at least

[azure breach]

you need a clamp or at least some way to mount it

[fiery sail]

currently im highly gravitating towards the driving force GT for 30-50€

used

cheapest, has pedals and no leather

[young spoke]

get this

its a tsxw

100% would buy

thats a really good wheel and base

[young spoke]

you can buy clamps if it doesnt come with one

for 135 euros thats a steal

[fiery sail]

triple the price compared to the driving force GT and leather
both dealbreakers

[young spoke]

triple the price but triple the performance

the driving force gt is significantly worse

a quarter of the force no swappable wheels a bad stock wheel gear driven ffb

i would 100% buy that tsxw right now

that is the best deal ive ever seen

[fiery sail]

there is also the t128

same price no leather

is that comparable?

[young spoke]

t128 is also a lot worse then the tsxw

[fiery sail]

its either this or used gt

[young spoke]

id get the tsxw

[fiery sail]

leather is a dealbreaker

[young spoke]

trust me it is 100% worth it over the driving force gt

[fiery sail]

and there seems to be no version without it

[young spoke]

you can swap the wheels

the t128 and driving force gt cant be swapped

[fiery sail]

i dont care about the leather being on it but the animal that got killed for it

swappign out doesnt solve that

(and comes with extra costs)

[young spoke]

its fake leather

[fiery sail]

is it?

[young spoke]

all wheels ive seen use fake leather including all thrustmaster and logitech wheels

actually i lie the 12" moza es mod is real leather

thrustmaster publicly says they dont use leather

[fiery sail]

respect for that and yeah seems to be the case

[winter plume]

is AW2725DF worth it?

[young spoke]

anyway id 1000% go for that tsxw

thats the best deal youll ever see

[fiery sail]

thx for the advice and not giving up on me 😄

i wil ltry to find some reviews

[young spoke]

for reference the tsxw is 6.2nm the logi wheel is 1.8nm and the t128 is 2.4nm

[fiery sail]

100€ uplift stil lis a lot considering i played like... 30 hours last year in total

[young spoke]

trust me i would kill someone to have a tsxw when i started out

[fiery sail]

i'll report back once im doen wathcing reviews 😄
(if i can find some)

[young spoke]

theres a couple

my review is youd be an idiot to buy anything else but the tsxw in this situation

[fiery sail]

i mean

how about the open wheel for 50€

xD

[young spoke]

the open wheel?

[fiery sail]

thrustmaster open wheel

[fiery sail]

↑

[young spoke]

thats a decent wheel

definitely good enough for 99% of gt/formula racing

for 50 euros thats a great deal since the wheel sells for like 150~

[fiery sail]

but its the same wheel u just were so passionate about?

[young spoke]

yeah

wait the open wheel comes with the tsxw?

thats even more of a great deal

[fiery sail]

i mnot sure yet

seems like no

its on the picture on the new one

for 125€

[young spoke]

even if not thats a great deal for just the base

[fiery sail]

but its never mentioned anywhere

[young spoke]

it probably is just the wheel base

meaning youd have to buy a wheel and pedals

those can be had for under 100 euros used

[fiery sail]

ah wait there is legit no other analog input on the wheel to not buy pedals

[young spoke]

still anything under 500 euros for that wheelbase is an amazing wheel

[fiery sail]

yeah im not paying 250€

[young spoke]

wdym

[fiery sail]

to bypass buyign pedals

[young spoke]

pedals are like 40 euros max

[fiery sail]

ah just read your message again

125€ for the wheel

not the base

so i need a base and pedals

[young spoke]

oh dang

yeah i wouldnt get that

[fiery sail]

could get the wheel for 50€ used tho

or just the GT with everything

for 45

[young spoke]

i thought it was just the base

id go for the t128

the GT is pretty old nowadays

the ffb isnt that good for modern games if they support the wheel

[fiery sail]

found some for around 80€ used after fines and shipping

think thats gonna be it then

thanks again for being persistant with me again 😄

[young spoke]

the t128?

[fiery sail]

y

[barren vigil]

Is this monitor still good or should i pay a little more for MSI MPG 271QRX QD-OLED or Gigabyte AORUS FO27Q

[harsh bronze]

I’m trying to find a good CSA layout keyboard with a backlight and wanted to drop in and see if anyone here might be able to point me in the right direction. Amazon has been kind of fruitless and BestBuy has like 3 OEM keyboards. I’d like to not resort to an apple Magic Keyboard but I’m kind of low on options.

[harsh bronze]

Looking for one that shows the circumflex & the cedilla if possible eg: ê & ç

[charred plank]

@harsh bronze just get a good keyboard and some CSA profile caps

[harsh bronze]

The problem is the extra keys

[worldly garden]

No way those words came out from you biooc

[charred plank]

?

Oh wait, I was thinking osa

[harsh bronze]

This

[charred plank]

I think inky 75 would support that but you'd probably have to remap it

But let me double check

[harsh bronze]

I don’t mind remapping a keyboard

[charred plank]

Nm, doesn't look like the stock plate does

[harsh bronze]

Remapping a keyboard is a lot easier than memorizing the Unicode numbers and stopping in the middle of a word to press alt and punch in the code for œ

I appreciate you giving me an idea though. I might see if I can find a fully programmable keyboard that’s got a customizable layout and find the right caps.

[charred plank]

Anything via compatible can be fully remapped

[harsh bronze]

Worse comes to worse I grab a keyboard off apple because they make them and it’ll be acceptable at worst.

They’re just 150 and special order so they take like 2 weeks to a month to arrive.

[worldly garden]

Mif inky 75 ever support spilt shifts

But neo80 is

[flat dock]

Usually you'd do this inside your OS by changing keyboard layout or language, rather than remapping the physical keyboard

[harsh bronze]

The problem with that is if I reprogram a US qwerty keyboard it physically doesn’t have enough switches.

Trust me if it were that easy I’d grab a Corsair keyboard and go online and find key caps and be done with it.

[flat dock]

ohh I see

[worldly garden]

Buy a neo80

It aupport that layout

[flat dock]

I thought you meant just using an already iso layout phyically

[harsh bronze]

These keys are what’s missing

[flat dock]

Are you open to buying a new keyboard or do you want to use the current one

[harsh bronze]

Trying to buy a new one

My current keyboard is a laptop lol I’m moving to a PC for the first time in a long time

[flat dock]

I know keychron has that layout available if you want it

[harsh bronze]

With a laptop it’s a lot easier. When I buy it from the OEM I just hit « Canadian French » and the right keyboard comes on it.

[flat dock]

and neo80 apparnelty?

[worldly garden]

Buy a membrane with that layout

[harsh bronze]

Keychron & neo80 will take a look

[harsh bronze]

Trying not to do this because there are two options

[flat dock]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1f0tipf/first_build_neo80_isode/

[harsh bronze]

An awful dell OEM keyboard or an overpriced apple OEM keyboard are the membrane options.

[worldly garden]

Which are ?

[worldly garden]

Is budget wised i would say

And last forever

[flat dock]

neo80 probably a better pick than keychron

[harsh bronze]

I’ll look into both

[flat dock]

it takes a tiny bit of assembly iirc

oh this guys using outemu cream yellow

I can respect that

[worldly garden]

Respect the poverty

[shut gyro]

oh my eyes

[worldly garden]

Hope he could upgrade

It

[flat dock]

what

[worldly garden]

Cool oring board

[mystic trellis]

So I was visiting a customer site earlier and they gave me this keyboard. Brand new still. It’s IBM XT compatible but I can’t work out how old it actually is

[harsh bronze]

I’m also not worried about budget constraints, I just don’t want to spend $150 on the most basic aluminum keyboard ever constructed. (Apple).

[worldly garden]

Holy shit this thing is cool

[mystic trellis]

Right? I can’t believe it’s brand new

[worldly garden]

Good find for you dude

[worldly garden]

In the back should give you the info

[mystic trellis]

Doesn’t help much

All I can find online is one matching picture

[flat dock]

waiting for the serial number to just be 1

[worldly garden]

https://homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/scancodes-2.html

[ionic briar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputing/comments/51xm95/my_friend_found_an_old_victor_keyboard_any_idea/

[mystic trellis]

Yeah I’ve seen both these sites the first one is the only matching picture I can find

But it has very little info on the actual keyboard, the reddit post is a similar but different model

It feels real nice though I might have to get an adaptor

[ionic briar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/9bkwxr/looking_for_an_ibm_model_f_xtat_to_usb_converter/

you would need to find one specifically for converting xt to the current scancode

[mystic trellis]

I’ll probably diy it with a rasPi

[ionic briar]

that's a bit too overkill, something like an arduino is enough for these kind of conversion.
but more powr to you

[mystic trellis]

True, I just have a few picos spare rn

actually I’ve got a few ESP32s laying about.. Bluetooth mod? 🤔

Would feel bad modding a brand new one tho

[worldly garden]

i just got a free mouse

[cold folio]

is there some kind of buyers guide or search site for mechanical keyboards

[worldly garden]

yes

dozen of videos and articles online

[fiery sail]

just got a 80% keyboard and im trying to do unicode symbols but none of the methods seem to work (like alt+x or shift ctrl u)
how do you guys do it?
windows 10 + wooting 80HE btw

[ionic briar]

it doesn't work for me on discord either
but word or whatever works fine

in a browser this shortcut doesn't work it seems

[fiery sail]

well, 98% of times i need it in browser or discord

one additional reason to send it back (although there were plenty already)

[ionic briar]

Eh, it's a universal thing on windows, I'm not using a wooting

[fiery sail]

yeah didnt meant that one to wooting just that non full size keyboards might not be for me

[ionic briar]

Understandable
they do have a full size offerings tho wooting, is there any reason why you didn't go with that one?

[fiery sail]

my order got delayed by 1.5 months, i had to buy the modules one instead of prebuilt (otherwise even longer delay) they proimised a 30€ gift card and then just didnt send one

didnt get fullsize bc its more expensive, its much louder and 1 other reason i forgot

[ionic briar]

Okay, welp unfortunate for you

[fiery sail]

and half the reason i got a new one is not waking up my GF at night through typing (which it delivered on)

and tbh the Unicode thing has workarounds with some software u can download or just using function key and map the number keys to numpad keys

[worldly garden]

more reason to never go with wooting

[fiery sail]

yup, i will jsut keep this for 30 days, send it back and if something is missing in the return package thats just unfortunate i guess

its so tough tho to be that kind of customer while only targeTing the brand and not the customer support who has nothing to do with it

[worldly garden]

buy a mech and make a silent build man

[fiery sail]

cheapest for that (i still want HE) would be turtle beach vulcan 2 pro TKL
with 100 silent switches thats 200€ again

[worldly garden]

why do you want he lol

where mech got more choices

esp silents and such

[fiery sail]

responsiveness is great, as well as analog inpouts and multi function keys

[worldly garden]

how will u noticed that over a mech lol

u must be a bot or something

😂

[fiery sail]

blocked

[worldly garden]

how is that offended

bros ego:

[flat dock]

huh what does that have to do with the. Keyboard layout though? I don't see how numpad is involved in that

[fiery sail]

wioth numpad u can just hold alt and type the number

which doesnt work without numpad, at least out of the box

[flat dock]

you could hold alt and type with the numbers above the letters

[fiery sail]

nope you cant

[flat dock]

wat

[fiery sail]

there are workarounds

not a major issue

[worldly garden]

dont you see he is talking bullshit now, because i hate his wooting 💔

what a fan boy

[fiery sail]

if i save a lot of money by going TKL or 80% im fine downloading a program that allows u to do so

[flat dock]

Is this Unicode input thing a windows feature or a specific program

[fiery sail]

windows

most frequantly i use alt 23 through 26 to make arrows

or at least i did on my old keyboard

but again there are workarounds for it, i think any via compatible keyboard can be mapped to a 2nd layer so you can just hit function key and i can make my number row act like numpad key, then its pressing fn before and after holding alt while typing 26 for a right arrow

which is whatever, i'll get used to it

[flat dock]

Yes

[charred plank]

Why are you limiting yourself to only mainstream options?

It's like buying a 500hp Lamborghini for $200k and claiming you got the cheapest 500hp car because some Ferrari cost more and Bugatti costs more and ignoring that there are cars a quarter that price that reach or exceed 500hp

[fiery sail]

ISO DE layout

im not limiting myself to anything

besiudes the features that are necessary for me

but especially what brand i buy, i could nt care less

[charred plank]

It's not the most common layout but it's not uncommon either

You especially don't need to go mainstream garbage for it

[fiery sail]

tell me then

im open for any recommendations

[charred plank]

Pretty sure most of my boards support it

[fiery sail]

yeah by the time i buy seperate keycaps

its just damn expensive

[charred plank]

No

You can buy keycaps for like $10 or less of similar quality to the junk that comes with wooting boards

And most prebuilts come with better caps