peripherals

[floral perch]

so i cant harvest them

[flat dock]

That's normal for non-custom keyboards

[worldly garden]

Desolder it, haverst the switch

[flat dock]

But you can just buy MX blues if you really want

[floral perch]

I want it to remain a functional board

[bitter oar]

which ones? box? v2?

[flat dock]

like you can literally just buy switches

[worldly garden]

https://omnitype.com/products/cherry-mx2a-blue-linear-switches?srsltid=AfmBOooyneGJZzeCTF-bGqEIER7EuMHXiQChdFMvXWadDi8MlnkkjUAk

[floral perch]

im not desoldering and resoldering 104 keys

[flat dock]

How tf does the URL say blue linear

[floral perch]

i actually dont know, they came with the board, hold on

[worldly garden]

It will finction if u solder other switches in

[floral perch]

Kailh Speed Bronze Switches

[flat dock]

Is the keyboard with the kailhs that you want to replace hot-swappable?

[floral perch]

yes

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=822-W1-15US-KR

[flat dock]

OK so you just need to find a good switch

[worldly garden]

Ask omnitype

I dont make those

[floral perch]

lol, i got an alert for using a word correctly

i am kind of picky about my boards, they must have a keypad and they require a volume WHEEL, not buttons

[worldly garden]

Why you need 2 keyboard when u use one daily

[floral perch]

i like having a backup

[worldly garden]

Cool, u shpuld buy 5

[flat dock]

the click is the dropoff at 1.5 you see

[floral perch]

i only need two

[worldly garden]

I have multiple back ups too

[flat dock]

So that explains it

[floral perch]

ok, no joke, the switches i have are way more sensitive than that

[worldly garden]

I wont call that picky imo, is consumer feature BS

[flat dock]

1.5mm is pretty sensitice

In terms of displacement

[worldly garden]

Where is aliexpress boy pull out those charts

[bitter oar]

kailh le speed

[flat dock]

Oh its a speed switch of course its quick

That makes a lot more sense

[bitter oar]

anyways, so you’re not looking specifically for mx blues, just anything that’s not as sensitive

[worldly garden]

Linear switch

[bitter oar]

?

[flat dock]

which neo is that

[floral perch]

So do you think i would be OK with these?
https://www.amazon.com/Gateron-Blue-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B0716ZNZ1P

[worldly garden]

65

[bitter oar]

probably but i think i would look at the more recent switches

[floral perch]

i just hope they are compatible with the rgb in my board, as the RGB is underneath the switch, and these have a little hole for it to poke through

[bitter oar]

if you liked… the profile of mx blue maybe ttc brother or are thos not very available or pricey?

[flat dock]

I don't think you'll be satisfied with their tactility

Brown switches are pretty weak

[cobalt eagle]

guys what does o rings exactly do underneath your keycaps

[flat dock]

Yes, though. Anything with a clear top housing should be good for led

[flat dock]

a keyboard crime

[cobalt eagle]

fr?

[flat dock]

Its dampening so it makes it quieter I think

[cobalt eagle]

what mods can i do to my keyboard rn

[flat dock]

what is it

[cobalt eagle]

i got k70 pro HE

[worldly garden]

Get some heavier springs if possible

[cobalt eagle]

corsair

[flat dock]

Anything specific you want to change?

[cobalt eagle]

idk what are my options

[worldly garden]

Make it terrible

[flat dock]

Various tape mods are a thing

[floral perch]

ok so, on the bottom of this, thats where the RGB comes from, on all of these aftermarker switches, its solid, so it looks like the rgb wont work

[worldly garden]

U cant really do anything with a HE keyboard

Maybe foams

[cobalt eagle]

it does have 2 dampening layers

[worldly garden]

Thats ur assuming

It works

[flat dock]

That hole is where the rgb comes from

Itll work

[worldly garden]

Get more

[flat dock]

thats how normal switches are like

[worldly garden]

If you want your theoretical rgb get those aquaking

Or akko clears

[floral perch]

yes, thats whats in my board now, all the aftermarket ones i am looking at do not have that hole there, its solid

[flat dock]

its rare for switches to hwve a transparent bottom like aqua kings

[worldly garden]

Brighter thab your future

[flat dock]

Huh show what youve seen that doesnt have the hole

[worldly garden]

Rgb is boring

[cobalt eagle]

guys do i get more grip from pbt keycaps compared to abs

[worldly garden]

Get a set if gmk rainbow

[floral perch]

Literally every Razer, Gateron and Cherry switch on Amazon

[cobalt eagle]

my fingers just slide off

[floral perch]

do not have that hole

[worldly garden]

Pbt keycaps = less abs keycap

Is technically the same

[flat dock]

That doesnt seem right

cherry yes if its not clear top

[cobalt eagle]

doubleshot pbt?

[worldly garden]

Gatreon ks3

[flat dock]

but most gaterons are rgb compatible

[worldly garden]

Pbt bad…

[flat dock]

cherry makes clear top switches for rgb compatibility if you want them

[cobalt eagle]

then what is good

[worldly garden]

Yeah those cherry rgb’s

I heard it soubds bad though

[worldly garden]

Abs

[floral perch]

jesus christ, the price hike to be able to use my rgb

[cobalt eagle]

why

[flat dock]

what

[cobalt eagle]

i see everyone telling me pbt is better than abs

[flat dock]

what are you looking at specifically right now

[flat dock]

I think most people prefer PBT. But it's a preference mainly

[worldly garden]

More clear and consistent soubd in general

[worldly garden]

Hot take dude

[floral perch]

Amazon, the only switches i can find that might allow my RGB are the Melodics

[worldly garden]

Most newbies prefer pbt

Then thats the case

[flat dock]

idk most of the keyboard people that I know use pbt keycaps

[floral perch]

here i am enjoying myself with a set of Happy Balls

[worldly garden]

Imagine buying keyboard misc in amazon

Where are you based

[worldly garden]

U should make more friends

Who is more acknowledged in the keyboard hobby

[floral perch]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CSS2JPH5

[flat dock]

Are you in US amazon or a different country, maybe its different market

[bitter oar]

yes people prefer more durable keycaps, pbt is usually more neutral in sound which also a lot of people like

[worldly garden]

They give out more solid perspective

[floral perch]

US Amazon

[flat dock]

the no true scotsman

🗣️

[worldly garden]

You are yapping bullshit again

[flat dock]

dude it is a preference

lots of people prefer abs and lots of people prefer pbt

You can try both

[worldly garden]

I know dozens of cherry og abs which are older than you

[floral perch]

why not use both at the same time, mix and match PBT and ABS

[flat dock]

there's no elitist take that abs is the superior taste preference

[flat dock]

oh god

[worldly garden]

Bro

[bitter oar]

are we turning into fallacies again instead of giving me an actual counter-argument?

[worldly garden]

Pbt is a mixture of abs

Thats why they are ass

[bitter oar]

wha

[flat dock]

what

[floral perch]

make your spacebar a piece of solid aluminum

[flat dock]

Metal keycaps exist although they're not solid

They're just normal mold shape

[cobalt eagle]

i know a better option

get reinforced steel aircraft grade keycaps

they press keys for u

also why does mainly pbt and abs exist in the keycap market

i can barely find any other material

even metal keycaps are hard to find

[flat dock]

💀 based name

[flat dock]

https://www.amazon.com/Gateron-Blue-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B07CVT9ZH3/

that's just an example not a recommendation from me

[worldly garden]

https://awekeys.com/products/full-metal-keycap-set-special-edition-gold-silver-titanium?srsltid=AfmBOoo4IYVLcupGPE-eujSdAZflqa0tpNIqvAg6GXTa6Qe1274mXv6T

[worldly garden]

There used to be pom

[bitter oar]

@worldly garden you realise abs is cheap to mold and produce, it’s also simple to give it vibrant color, that’s why it’s used in most keycap sets, that it has been used for decades does not mean it’s good for all instances

[worldly garden]

go to biooc he is gmk mold enthusiast

Im not

[floral perch]

i cant find anywhere about that specific switch that tells me it allows my RGB to work

[flat dock]

it will

you might have to look at other sources to tell

[bitter oar]

?

[flat dock]

But really they wouldn't block that off

There's always gonna be the hole in the switch at the bottom

I've never seen a switch plug that up

[floral perch]

hey, these will for sure https://www.amazon.com/Gateron-ks-9-Switches-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B09WSQCPRM?gQT=1&th=1

now im also aware these switches will be louder, i need quieter ones, will browns do nicely?

[flat dock]

they won't feel at all the same

[floral perch]

so i should buy some grommets?

[flat dock]

nothing is gonna give you that sharp feeling I don't think without being clicky

what is that

[floral perch]

or whatever you stick under the caps

[flat dock]

But, there are punchy tactiles that exist

[floral perch]

the rubber

[flat dock]

o rings will do the exact opposite and make it just mush and awful from what I've heard

[worldly garden]

Every switch allows rgb to work

Just how light they are

[floral perch]

the mission here is to get quieter switches that are tactile and actuate AFTER the click

[worldly garden]

Wannabe topre

[worldly garden]

Silent clickies lol

[flat dock]

what options eve are there

TTC brother I've heard

[floral perch]

what are Gateron Pros

[flat dock]

isn't it g pro

[floral perch]

probably

[flat dock]

Idk to be honest

[cobalt eagle]

what happens if a switch is 20 gf

[floral perch]

breathing on it actuates it?

[cobalt eagle]

that would be nice

typing with ur mouth

[floral perch]

shit i sneezed and accidently wrote the communist manifesto

[worldly garden]

A line of switch

[worldly garden]

U will need 150gr spring swap

[floral perch]

when i said that, i was joking

[worldly garden]

I wasnt

150 gram switch is chef kiss

[flat dock]

you are crazy

[floral perch]

i think i am going to chance these browns

they "Seem" to be quieter than my current ones

[worldly garden]

Better try than never

[worldly garden]

Those wont have any clicks

[flat dock]

I mean I know I wouldn't like it

60g is too heavy

[floral perch]

but it says Tactile, and i think that's what i am looking for?

[worldly garden]

My daily is 63.5 lol

[flat dock]

Perhaps. But I suspect if you're used to blue then brown won't be tactile enough for you

They're somewhat subtle

[worldly garden]

Therre are a lot of better tactiles than them

[cobalt eagle]

where do you find tehse lsit

these lists

[floral perch]

https://www.gateron.co/products/gateron-switch-set ?

[worldly garden]

I wish i could have this

[floral perch]

we should make keycaps out of porcelain, the sound would be superb

[flat dock]

That exists

Expensive though

[flat dock]

you could consider TTC brother (clicky), or Gateron Baby Kangaroo (tactile)

as a launching point

[worldly garden]

Holy chickies

[floral perch]

Gateron Beer's might be nice

[flat dock]

They are

[worldly garden]

Pansy everglide is my fav budget tactile

[cobalt eagle]

do i feel more feedback on a razer green switch compared to a gx blue

[flat dock]

what are chickies

[worldly garden]

https://youtu.be/bBUrQoaD6ng?si=cZrtp4rb1MOooYDq

[worldly garden]

Both of you beed a typewriter

[cobalt eagle]

wdym

[floral perch]

https://www.angrymiao.com/en/icy-silver-switch/

what i want are these, but i cant pay for that shit, its too high end for my wallet

[worldly garden]

no

[flat dock]

They sound

[worldly garden]

fuck angry miao

[floral perch]

ok, so they are good

[worldly garden]

good ??

it scams rich newbies

[flat dock]

What do you like about these, you could maybe find something similar

[floral perch]

the sound

they were featured on the channel once and i like fell in love with it

[flat dock]

They sound pretty normal

Let me try some more videos

it sounds like a thocky version of my outemu pears

idk all I can find about it is YouTube slop-tubers

I think mainly you could just build a keyboard that sounds like this instead of buying switches and getting 80% there

[floral perch]

https://youtu.be/4LeBTYpfgS4?t=212

[worldly garden]

sponsored...

yeah iff you arre inssist surre

cant help you anymore

[flat dock]

I wonder if you'd like gateron oil kings

It reminds me of that general area of sound profile

[floral perch]

i'm getting gaterons anyway, just depends on what i can find that comes in a 100 pack

[worldly garden]

is literally oil king

[flat dock]

oh what

[worldly garden]

overlube god

[flat dock]

I thought they were sending that as an example of the angry miao

or wait are you just agreeing it sounds like it

[worldly garden]

looks like but not for 850$

[flat dock]

how can it be $850

how much of that is actual keyboard and not rich tax

[floral perch]

ok, i didnt mention wanting the keyboard

i just mentioned i liked the sound of the switches

i hate these switches so much

[worldly garden]

500 msrp

but imported here is 800+

[flat dock]

you'll like the gateron oil kings

in terms of sound

they're linear

[floral perch]

i think im going to cheap out and just get the gateron blues, i would like quieter switches but all examples of the other ones i heard sounded like they were broken, lol

[worldly garden]

I have another option for you

Is called alps white

[floral perch]

if they arent on amazon im not interested

[flat dock]

gateron melodic? If you wanna try something unique instead of just a cherry blue 'clone'

I have them and they feel a lot more refined

[floral perch]

if i could just go on amazon and find a 104pack of MX Blues for the same or near the same price as these gaterons i would buy the cherries

a 120 pack of Gateron Blues are only $30

[flat dock]

why only amazon though

[floral perch]

becuase i dont like dealing with different tranaction methods on websites or giving my card info out to just any website

Melodics are $80 for an entire kit for my board, or i can spend $30 on blues

i'm not going to put $80 worth of switches into a board i paid $20 for

[worldly garden]

Lol u will only find shit on amazon

[floral perch]

oh well

oh shit

im sold on the blues

[worldly garden]

Ok get it

[floral perch]

someone uploaded a video showing how early the kailhs i have actuate

i'm not insane, these are just built like that

https://youtu.be/9alcZyiyxdc

bottom are my switches

look how early that thing actuates (Lights up the arrow)

[worldly garden]

How is this make sense ??

[floral perch]

exactly my point

ive been using these for a year and it only JUST occured to me that they actuate way before they should

[worldly garden]

Lol

Fine just get those mx blues

[floral perch]

yeah, those blues will be fine

$30 for 120 of them

[worldly garden]

Break in it and ss

[floral perch]

these Kailh's are going in the fucking garbage

[worldly garden]

U never made good use of it tho

[floral perch]

yep, that works, thanks for your help

this is what i decided on
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WSG93Z3

what do you mean good use

[worldly garden]

Nothing

Good luck on your build

[floral perch]

"Build", i bought a board, hated the legend, bought some Happy Balls, and now im replacing the keyswitches because they are garbo

i'm never going to get over that brand name

Happy Balls

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CSS2JPH5

[worldly garden]

Loook up mmd nipple switch

[floral perch]

that sounds like they would have bumps on them to help you find what key your on

Pre Lubed Nipple Switch

[flat dock]

if you buy from milktootth its a good price and they support paypal

[floral perch]

maybe if i actually build a decent board

i'll get to cleaning mine when i install the new switches

[bitter oar]

what about ttc brother

[flat dock]

I assume no because its not on amazon

[bitter oar]

oh amazon?

[flat dock]

They were adamant on amazon

[bitter oar]

not many options there really

akko cyan clicky?

maybe kailh jades

@floral perch

[floral perch]

i'm never buying anything with Kailh products again

[bitter oar]

why

those are different non speed version

[floral perch]

my mouse has kail switches in it and they suck, my controller has kailh switches in it, after a few months the A button feels weird

[bitter oar]

that also may be the manufacturer’s poor implementation of those switches in the mice

yes, there are kailh switches that people don’t like but they also have some solid ones

[worldly garden]

More overpriced dinks? Cmon

[bitter oar]

tuf m3, one of my favorite budget mices long time ago used all kailh switches (unsure if the scroll wheel is probs not) and i still like it today

[worldly garden]

Some kalih bcp is very good

[floral perch]

i have one fatal flaw with my mouse. they put the Precision DPI button in a spot that no human can actually press

like, i can press it, but i lose all grip on the mouse making it pointless

[bitter oar]

yeah could be really just the manufacturer doing a whopsie, you can totally ruin top of the line switches if you screw up the shell and mechanism design

[floral perch]

i got it on sale for $10, figured id try it, wore the shit out of my G502 Hero

thing has fuckin' headlights

its hilarious

[bitter oar]

i was looking for a better switch that has very similar actuation to mx blue

[worldly garden]

U actively use dpi button when playing?

[bitter oar]

you can setup the button as a diffrent function than dpi

[floral perch]

well, i planned to rebind it, but it's position makes it very hard to press without losing all grip on the mouse

[worldly garden]

Forget they exist

Problem solved

[bitter oar]

same with my tuf m3, dirt cheap, couldn’t complain much other than some minor grind, pretravel on my second unit, it was the right button i believe it was the shell that had the defect

the cable was ew tho

otherwise pretty fine for like 2021 mice at $12

[floral perch]

well, i got the keyboard first, and i was like, i may as well get a matching mouse so i can control them both with the same software

both have braided cables

[flat dock]

via users:

[bitter oar]

har har

[bitter oar]

yeah i generally try to avoid into getting into ecosystems especially when i don’t see any benefits doing so

[floral perch]

being able to turn off all rgb with one program is nice

[bitter oar]

ease of use or accesibility sure that is quite valid

but if it’s way too expensive for what it offrers

e

[floral perch]

i paid $25 for the board and $10 for the mouse, both of which on sale

[bitter oar]

no bad yeah

msrp of those boards were like $80

[floral perch]

not really?

i really only saw them at $60

off sale

[bitter oar]

well, then $60

[worldly garden]

Qmk users

[worldly garden]

U paid the right price

[floral perch]

idk, they replaced my G710 and my G502 Hero

[worldly garden]

Other 55 was for the brands

[bitter oar]

most of the mechanical / optical from gaming brands were priced at like $80 in ~ 2021’ish

[worldly garden]

Logitech mouse lmao

[bitter oar]

not top of the line

overpriced all.

[floral perch]

this mouse has an invisible sensor like logitech, i could have sworn logitech patented that so nobody else could use it

[bitter oar]

infrared?

[worldly garden]

I would rather deathadders over any logitech

[bitter oar]

they can’t patent technology for infrared sensors

that’s like me patenting the tap water in your house

at most the design of the sensor and how light gets diffused

[floral perch]

i will say i miss my old scroll wheel

[bitter oar]

shape

[flat dock]

there's like 2 keyboards in the world that actually release qmk source its over

Although I just learned qwertykeys actually does so my next keyboard will be a neo60 or neo80

[worldly garden]

Just make one yourself

Idk mich about ieyboard software but most homebrew keyboard had their own qmk code thing

[flat dock]

yeah but that's stupid

[floral perch]

all you really need for a keyboard is three keys, N, Y, Return

[flat dock]

I need ESC to exit vim

[floral perch]

shut, ur right

four keys

imagine where we'd be if we still kept the arrow keys in one row

[flat dock]

60% users with fn-hjkl

or fn-ijkn

[worldly garden]

They stil do it

[floral perch]

Order

Chaos

[worldly garden]

Apple made goood alps

[floral perch]

Buckle Spring Keyswitches?

[keen tinsel]

wtf is this😭

how do u play like that

[steel star]

you guys play on arrow keys?..

[keen tinsel]

some games

like undertale

[worldly garden]

Wasd when

[keen tinsel]

most games

[worldly garden]

Arrow keys are pretty useless to me

[keen tinsel]

i prefer it in undertale

tho controller is still better in that game

[worldly garden]

Fair fair

I have to try underyale sometime

[flat dock]

minecraft

[merry gale]

Bump

[thorny ferry]

I love arrow keys

[worldly garden]

alright man

[crisp patrol]

alps

[boreal reef]

Does anyone know where I can get a peripheral like this one?

[languid sparrow]

Chat I need a new keybaord

Preferably one that’s 80(?) percent

One without a nun key pad unless there the only ones that looks cool

Budget is 1-200

USD

Microcenters and Amazon are available

I’d likely something nice to click one, quiet, but creamy and something low profile but fitting in a mostly black setup

Thanks chat 🙏

[flat dock]

Are you interested in customizability in the future at all or do you just want to buy something and be done

I can think of several for both

[languid sparrow]

I’d be interested ish but it has to be good out of the box

Can’t be something I have to sink another 300 dollars into just to be decent yk what I mean

Like I dunno if I’d foam mod it

Or do anything crazy like replacing the shell to like aluminum for slightly better sound

But maybe just switch replacement and key cap replacement

[flat dock]

yeah thats fair

[languid sparrow]

And performance is important especially at this range, but tbh looks more so

I’m not a comp gamer

Just need it to be good enough to not be a full second behind the other players

[flat dock]

you could look at the neo80 or evo80, the neo doesn't come with switches or keycaps but otherwise is good out of the box

[languid sparrow]

(Basically if u give me a razor product im slapping you/j)

[languid sparrow]

What

Is it just a . Pcb

[flat dock]

its everything minus the switches and keycaps, so case + plate + foam + pcb

[languid sparrow]

That’s sounds painful

How much are good switches running me

Like creamy ones

[flat dock]

its easy because switches just snap in, although itll be like probably $30-50 for the switches; it might not fit under $200 with everything

[languid sparrow]

Is that at least reassembled

[flat dock]

yeah all you have to do is just snap in switches and put on keycaps

[languid sparrow]

Hmmm

Sounds painful

Let me look at it

Brb

[flat dock]

If you've installed or removed keycaps before, switches are that same level of complexity

[languid sparrow]

Do I have to lube them

I could

But I’m lazy

Lubing would def be a no no for me

If that depends on the switches I buy

Is there more variety than 2-3 years ago?

I rmember it was only like 2 brands

Back then

Unless I went high high end

[flat dock]

Most switches these days you don't, they're fine out of factory

and there's tons of brands and different switches now

[languid sparrow]

Tbh I haven’t lubed my switches in 5 years

Holy shit

[flat dock]

I don't have many linear switches tbh

I gotta look at a list

[languid sparrow]

Niceee

I remember it was all like red and blue shits

Back then, pretty sure they were all the same company

[flat dock]

Yeah

That must've been a long time ago though

[languid sparrow]

Is this like a good keyboard or still mid ranged btw

[flat dock]

That was when I was on my Razer arc

[languid sparrow]

Idk what the keyboard ladder is bout

[flat dock]

technically this is mid range in the world of custom keyboards but its great in the context of everything

[languid sparrow]

Mid ranged at 200+

Never can please the enthusiasts huh?

With their blocks of aluminum

But yea I’m far from a clicky master so idc that much

Might just buy an anime shell tbh

For the memes

[flat dock]

oh I remember huano sakura is supposed to be a good creamy linear switch

[languid sparrow]

Sounds lovely

Ok I gotta go for 23 minutes

I’m taking an ap test

Brb

Thanks for the help

I’m losing time

[flat dock]

Lmao

See you later

[languid sparrow]

How much am I spending if I want a screen

Maybe a wheel on it for the volume too

[flat dock]

Idk

there's one I can't remember the name

oh but its a 75

[languid sparrow]

that’s fine

[flat dock]

Idk about keyboards with screens because I've never looked for them

[languid sparrow]

I said I didn’t want a 60

I wanted an 80 or 75

Just no num pad

To fat and unneeded

[flat dock]

I think most of the high end ones don't have screens so you would probably spend less

[languid sparrow]

Makes sense

I’d kill for my waifus on my keyboard though

[native sundial]

Trying out the Attack Shark R6 when it gets here tomorrow

Might be falling into the mouse rabbit hole

[languid sparrow]

Wait

The neo is stainless steel

That’s hot

I wish it was actually sold though

Janky sellers

I’m still using a g502

Is that bad

Should I re allocate some of my money into a glorious model o

[flat dock]

huh

the neo80 is aluminum

[languid sparrow]

Awwww

[flat dock]

you can buy it from divinikey

nvm its sold out at dk

[languid sparrow]

Can I get stainless steel

Or is that another 200

[flat dock]

idk of any stainless steel keyboards

[native sundial]

too chonky for my preference

I play a lot of fps games so a light mouse is nice

[languid sparrow]

I think I remember of a cnc aluminum block that a pcb got placed in

They called it a keyboard

[flat dock]

yeah but that would be aluminum

[languid sparrow]

But it was just a keyboard in some steal

No stainless feel

Bruuuu

[flat dock]

what

[languid sparrow]

Glorious model 0 still good or no?

[flat dock]

i am confusedf

[languid sparrow]

It sounds like it’d feel nice

I kinda want metal key caps

Am I going broke or is that doable

[flat dock]

i think you just need anodized aluminum keyboard tbh

anodization feels nice

[languid sparrow]

:boted:

[native sundial]

Idk tbh. Never used a glorious mouse. Apparently the Attack Shark R6 is supposed to be like the best bang for buck mouse.

$60, great sensor, 39g, etc

[languid sparrow]

Hmmm

I don’t understand the hype around light mice

Never used one though so 🤷

Maybe I can snatch my friends model d+

[flat dock]

mouse so light it wont even press a keyboard switch

[native sundial]

My mice have progressively gotten lighter over time

[languid sparrow]

I need something strong Thu

I put a whole in my wall

So…

[flat dock]

im still using a g502 proteus spectrum. 121g

[native sundial]

I went G305 -> Superlight -> Viper V2 Pro -> maybe this R6 if I like it

[languid sparrow]

G502 is great

Might buy another one

[flat dock]

soon my mouse will be a decade old

[languid sparrow]

Give it a friend

Holy shit

[native sundial]

Regardless I cannot use a wired mouse anymore. The wire changes the weight balance and makes it feel weird to me now

[languid sparrow]

When the h503 dropping

Ye but I like my mice not dying mid giggly

[flat dock]

i just have my wire set up so about 2 ft is kept on the table in a sort of zigzag pattern

[languid sparrow]

Fight*

[flat dock]

it removes any weight of the cable

[native sundial]

I charge my mice maybe once a month

[languid sparrow]

Id buy a mouse riser thingy

If I cared enough

A uh bungie

Mous boungies

My friend had one

Wonder what they did w it

They have a 4090

Idk why

They dumb

Is there a modern version of the g502

[native sundial]

G502 is a dinosaur nowadays

Mice have improved so much in the last decade but the G502 holdouts just refuse for some reason lol

[languid sparrow]

Ye but is there mdoerb heavy mice

I like my women like I like my mice

sturdy

[native sundial]

No need for a purposely heavy mouse

[languid sparrow]

Are you joking

[native sundial]

nah

[languid sparrow]

There’s no more heavy mouse

What if I slam it

I’m not tryna throw away 200 dollars

[native sundial]

Grow up and stop slamming shit? idk.

[languid sparrow]

No like I have

But still

I’m used to heavy mice

[native sundial]

I will never understand it

[languid sparrow]

It feels nice

Quality

Not like it’s gonna break if I squeeze to hard

[native sundial]

It’s like forcing yourself to drive a 1988 Honda

[languid sparrow]

That Honda could be worth a lot

If properly taken care of and a nice enough model

[native sundial]

You’re looking into it too hard lol

[languid sparrow]

I’m just

do I rly have to get rid of my heavy mice addiction

[flat dock]

perhaps they feel nice

[native sundial]

I want to mod my wooting but like

I also don’t wanna spend that much on what’s truly just aesthetics

[languid sparrow]

Fair

[boreal rivet]

zowie

[worldly garden]

why not

[main narwhal]

aesthetics gets you 2% more fps

[worldly garden]

should I get a trackball

[flat dock]

Sure

They feel nice to use

[upper sapphire]

Which one should I start from, Apex 4 BMW or Cyclone 2

[languid sparrow]

I belive some people are called “financially responsible “

[flat dock]

Impossible

[languid sparrow]

[worldly garden]

Nope that means u arent having fun

[spiral veldt]

Would anyone recommend Controllers competing in the range of 8bitdo Ultimate 2 wireless and Gamesir Supernova

Right now I'm only confused b/w these (ik about cyclone 2) but would like to know any other better alternatives I might have in this range, not from the US but consider my max budget to be the price of Ultimate 2

[flat dock]

Actually I just remembered I used 60g akko penguins for a few weeks and they were fine

Its probably because 65g tactile force on lichicx raw

[native sundial]

No way this is any good right lmao https://a.co/d/heV8njr

[worldly garden]

It works

Budget wised i will consider gh60 itself

[native sundial]

I’m really just looking for the most cost effective way to mod a 60He

[worldly garden]

It is disrepair

U can barely make it sound better

Not budget friendly

Etc

[native sundial]

oh then I won’t bother then lmao

All I’ve done is tape mod it

I put like 5 layers of tape on the back of the PCB

[worldly garden]

U can buy a mechanical with the same budget u intended to mod urr wooting

and it sounds decent

[native sundial]

well I want Hall effect yk

schmovement go crazy

[worldly garden]

U got scammed by ads

But is fine

[native sundial]

what?

[worldly garden]

Real rgb

[native sundial]

shits noticeably better for gaming but lol

[worldly garden]

Probably if u play those rythmn games

[native sundial]

I play shooters that rely on movement

[worldly garden]

Alright man

Me too, sometimes

Still did good on those mech

[native sundial]

Yeah I mean it’s not like an insta do better type thing

The way I described it to my friend is it felt like going from 60 to 144hz but in a keyboard lol

[worldly garden]

When you are lets say already good you will feel a bit of difference

Anyway if you still want to mod ur wooting i recommend get those some new switches

Gatreon jade pro

[flat dock]

I need an HE keyboard

[native sundial]

Yeah

Idk how to explain it other than it just feels more responsive

There’s no like dead zone in the switch, as soon as you let go the key is off

It’s extremely noticeable in games where you can change your momentum instantly, like Overwatch

Boot up that game and spam A and D and its nuts lol

[flat dock]

isn't that snap tap thing banned

[native sundial]

only in CS

on offical CS servers

Faceit doesn't care

But I dont even use snap tap I use what wooting calls Rappy Snappy (lmao)

it's similar but less macro-y

[cobalt eagle]

is it normal that each key on my keyboard sounds a bit too different

like its not slightly

its noticable

[worldly garden]

Is snap tap

[worldly garden]

Yes

What keyboard do you have

[native sundial]

Nah it's different

wooting has snap tap and rappy snappy

[worldly garden]

Gimmicks gimmicks

Alright

[native sundial]

its not but yeah

[flat dock]

who comes up with these names

[cobalt eagle]

why though

arent my middle keys supposed to sound almost the same since they are almost in the same place

[flat dock]

why can't they just implement rappy snappy on mechanical

I don't see how it would really be fundamentally limited to he

[worldly garden]

Gmmk pro

[flat dock]

maybe it wouldn't be as effective but still the cheat is there

[worldly garden]

Different position

Is just that

[flat dock]

almost the same but of course not identical

[worldly garden]

Is less likely noticeable in high end keyboard because the kit itself made the sound less inconsistent

[charred plank]

its official

inky 75 is super based

only complaint I have at all is the plate doesnt hold switches in well

besides that

actually an insane board

[worldly garden]

making bad buys again ?

[charred plank]

nah, legit the best value board ive ever tried and best stock board i have ever tried

[worldly garden]

buy an evo80 and u will change ur mind on "best prebuilt"

[bitter oar]

i think he means it respectable to a certain budget, not as actually best

[worldly garden]

since when budget is mentioned here

[flat dock]

i think he means both

[charred plank]

I understand there are definitely better built prebuilts

But the sound is actually near perfect

And the quality for the price is something that still has me in disbelief

Like the stabs are perfect stock

The stock caps are actually pretty decent

The stock hmx switches are actually perfect for the board

[flat dock]

how long have you used it

[charred plank]

It doesn't sound muted and over damped like most boards with foam do

[flat dock]

in my experience stabs are perfect for the first week or two then start to become a little worse

same with switches

[charred plank]

It has some oomph to the sound

Like it doesn't sound hollow

It has an aggressive typing angle that was seemingly made by just using a ton of aluminum

Which I love

[worldly garden]

all foamboard sounds the same

[charred plank]

Like it's literally over 2kg

[charred plank]

They don't

[worldly garden]

take all the foams out and lmk what you think

[charred plank]

There is a tendency for foam to make boards sound more dull and muted

But this board completely subverts that

[signal parrot]

what are those keycaps

[flat dock]

My rainy 75 kinda sounds like how you described as well

[charred plank]

Unlike most boards with foam I have no desire to because sound is almost perfect

[charred plank]

They are signature plastics sa-p flex die sub pbt caps

[worldly garden]

you know, to determine a good keyboard is should sounds good without any assitnce

[signal parrot]

Great, ill make sure to never buy them

[charred plank]

The mismatched caps are the part of the set still shipping

[worldly garden]

ffoams for example

[charred plank]

That's a really stupid mentality

What matters is how it is when you use it

Not some arbitrary meaningless goal

[worldly garden]

hello popol

u cleaning ur stock of keyboards these days

[charred plank]

You wouldn't say a car with 500hp has less horsepower than a car with 300 because it used a turbo

Even if you don't want to use a turbo for some reason

It's just a stupid mindset and wrong statement

Same applies here

[flat dock]

Some would say a 300hp gr corolla is worse than a 300hp NA V6 because the NA requires no assistance

[worldly garden]

"same applies here"

lol

[flat dock]

APPLE IS HERE

[charred plank]

Literally the only thing I think I'd change about the inky is the plate not holding the switches well and I'd replace the screws with ball catch

Besides that honestly the board is pretty close to perfect physically

[worldly garden]

ball catch is shit

[flat dock]

Doesn't ball catch eventually develop ping

[charred plank]

No

[worldly garden]

just stick to screws

[flat dock]

screw everything

as in I hate keyboards

[worldly garden]

yes you are right

[charred plank]

But given the board is $69

It's actually perfect

[worldly garden]

i have never see you with any good keyboard yet biooc

[charred plank]

I mainly use a modified neo75

[flat dock]

I need a neo60 core or a neo80

[charred plank]

Tariffs are gonna make that hard

[flat dock]

I will wait

[worldly garden]

im happy to take it out of your hands

[charred plank]

Main reason I got inky 75 over neo60 core

But tbh

[worldly garden]

for 5 quid each

[charred plank]

Now I don't regret it as much

[worldly garden]

and a bag of chips. jhalf eaten

[charred plank]

Thought inky 75 would be like a slightly better hi75

[flat dock]

I could emulate hhkb layout with the neo60 core

[charred plank]

Just really good value but not something to stand up in the high end

But like legitimately this thing is objectively good

[worldly garden]

neo60 only have wk iirc

only neo60u has hhkb

[charred plank]

Meant neo 60 cu

[worldly garden]

get a taco75

or tgr tomo

[charred plank]

I don't care as much for neo 60 core

[worldly garden]

u will want to throw all of your keyboard right now away

[flat dock]

yeah but so does hhkb

I could just remove the left control if that was critical

Oh you're right there's an hhkv option on the cu

That's new

[charred plank]

Taco 75 isn't a good sounding board imo

I like a really high gain but low pitch and non hollow sound to boards

[worldly garden]

taco75 is hollow ?

LOL

[charred plank]

From the test I've heard it sounds hollow

[worldly garden]

soundtest are lies

[charred plank]

Not like keychron q series hollow

[flat dock]

in reality I should just buy an hhkb instead of emulating it with like $180 fully built

[charred plank]

But like still kinda hollow

Not that it's unworkable or anything

But like

[worldly garden]

if you did not try it in person you shouldnt yap

like really

[flat dock]

Do you own a taco 75

[charred plank]

It wouldn't make me go crazy over it unless all I owned was a q2

Actually, I won't call it hollow sounding

It's kinda like something between

[worldly garden]

i dont

[charred plank]

Doesn't sound hollow or full

[worldly garden]

howeveri can get my hands on it whenever i want

i told you i dont like 75%

[flat dock]

lmfaoo

[charred plank]

But all sound test make it sound high pitched too

60% is ideal imo

[flat dock]

real people use tkl

I have a print screen key

[charred plank]

Just map a key to that

[flat dock]

its grods

it'll be a long time until I can buy a new keyboard that's 60% to try it

[charred plank]

What's crazy to me is inky75 without a weight weighs as much as neo 80

It really has no business being $69

And not cutting corners on material used even

Copper weight inky with a copper plate would out weigh this

[worldly garden]

Do u still use that copper weight pcb

[charred plank]

Yes

And a copper plate

[worldly garden]

U have to use that so ur keyboard has some resonance

Lol

When will you buy cerakey too

[charred plank]

The hyperboring copper plate actually sounds similarly deep to pom

But with a lot more gain

Sounds more controlled too

[worldly garden]

Sounds wised neo75 isn’t competitive with pt1.75

[flat dock]

has anyone weighed various keycaps and also cerakey to compare how it affects the weight of the switch

[charred plank]

I'd argue other than the extra oomph it gives the sound though PC plate sounds better, but overall i prefer the copper plate

[worldly garden]

It is recommend to use 55+ springs seitch when u use cerakey

[charred plank]

I'd agree, but the sound issues are pretty much fixed by weighting the PCB

[flat dock]

Yeah but I wonder about the exact measurements

[charred plank]

I'd argue my neo 75 is still my 2nd to best sounding board and by far my best rounded board with the mods I did

But stock sound and typing experience I'd literally argue the hi75 outdoes it

[worldly garden]

U are the only person who did that

[charred plank]

But it still beats q2 in both regards

[charred plank]

Yep

[worldly garden]

Alright, foamboard guy

[charred plank]

I don't use any boards with foam except the keychrons I don't care enough about to remove it from and the inky now

And the thin stock foam sheet on the neo I guess

But it kinda needs it

They left too much space between the PCB and the case

I would fix that by using resin to mount a weight like I did with the lucky

[worldly garden]

Idk about neocu

But neo65 ideal config is no foam

[charred plank]

But I really like the design of the bottom case of the neo

[charred plank]

That's why I wanted 60 cu

It's much better designed acoustically

But tariffs

I'm not gonna pay $200 in tax on it

[worldly garden]

Gotta trade the ovd weight to gold se weight

[charred plank]

Tbh, I don't get the assumption I like foam boards

Given I've gone further than anyone in the hobby has to make boards sound good without foam

[flat dock]

foam is blasphemy so if you ever say you like it you are exiled

[charred plank]

Literally going as far as making and mounting weights to cut distances between bottom cases and the PCB and using liquid electric tape for case dampening

[worldly garden]

5/6 of keyboard u have is foamboard wdym

[charred plank]

It has its uses

[charred plank]

How does that even make sense?

[worldly garden]

Yeah get a taco

Old but gold

Kills sati75

[charred plank]

Literally 3.5 boards I have owned while in the hobby have foam in them and 7.5 dont

With the .5 being the neo which has kinda been going between both states depending on the state of sound it happens to be in at the time

[worldly garden]

Mode keyboards might fit you

[fringe breach]

What is the general concensus on the Logitech g915 wireless keyboard?

[flat dock]

i know what diamond_lee is gonna say

[fringe breach]

My local Walmart had them marked down from 220 usd to 90 so I grabbed one because my current keyboard's switches are starting to die

[flat dock]

$220???

[fringe breach]

Yeah that's nuts isn't it

[flat dock]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-keyboards/g915-low-profile-wireless-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.html

this?

[fringe breach]

Yeah

[flat dock]

highway robbery

idk what to say other than it seems like a gaming keyboard and i bet it feels and sounds like one

[fringe breach]

It's definitely an upgrade over my old one

It's the one with the gl clicky switches which is 150 on Logitechs website, I guess 90 dollars isn't that bad of a price

[flat dock]

i mean its bad in the context of keyboards

but not in the world of gaming keyboards

[worldly garden]

Nope

Wait until they complain

[flat dock]

(they won't)

[fringe breach]

Complain about what? I'm coming from a 25 dollar mechanical keyboard

[worldly garden]

🤷

You will see

[fringe breach]

Okay then...

[worldly garden]

Every gaming keyboard is terrible

So best of luck

[jagged jungle]

g915 is famous for booty but keycaps wearing down and needing to order aliexpress replacements

its cheap rn cuz the g915x dropped

its gonna sound like a gaming keyboard for sure too

[fringe breach]

Isn't the x the TKL?

Also I don't mind key caps, I'll probably end up replacing them anyway I'm not a huge fan of the low profile caps but we'll see how it goes for a bit first

[jagged jungle]

no

the x is the new version

there is a 915x wired, 915x tkl, and a 915x lightspeed

its a new generation

theres a 915, and 915tkl, 815 is wired

[worldly garden]

Logitech is trash

Expect them to last until u can have another keyboard

99 can get u a rainy or bridge

[fringe breach]

I don't even know what that is

I think I'll be just fine with it

[flat dock]

Logitech will last forevrr its just not particularly great

[worldly garden]

Not g serires

[worldly garden]

Certainly you will, but after they are worn out you will be pissed about their quality

[flat dock]

huh really

I guess I don't have Logitech gaming keyboard

the k845 is a tank

[worldly garden]

Membrane logitech made to last forecer lol

[jagged jungle]

i mean my g512 carbon i user prior to upgrading lasted over 4 years and numerable spills

is mechanical

[crisp patrol]

I had one

horrendous keyboard

[worldly garden]

really

why jonna

[royal escarp]

Guys anyone know a decent mic?

I thought about buying Audio-Technica AT2020USB-XP

[crisp patrol]

built like shit

[worldly garden]

no i mean why did you even get a logitech board

[flat dock]

no my membrane logitechs didn't last as long

[worldly garden]

User fault

[flat dock]

No they just aren't built well

My Logitech mechanical keyboards have lasted

[main narwhal]

no room on the desk for an interface?

[royal escarp]

wdym?

not even sure what an interface is in this context

[main narwhal]

an audio interface

so you can use a regular at2020 instead of the usb version

[royal escarp]

You mean like a stand or what?

what is an audio interface? the small boxes you mean?

[main narwhal]

they can be small

[royal escarp]

ah yes it is the boxes

i dont have that no

[main narwhal]

Do you have space for one?

What is the mic for?

[royal escarp]

Mmm I mean technically yes because I have bought 2 mounts for my monitors so monitor 2 and 3 won't have a stand anymore

[royal escarp]

literally only for gaming like twice a month

but sometimes also discord vc

[main narwhal]

What's your budget?

[royal escarp]

no budget really but just keep in mind the amount that I will use it so i don't need fancy stuff

my main requirement is for my voice to be clear

I would be more specific and give a budget but I honestly have no idea what normal pricesl ook like for decent mics

i've never had a mic in my life

[main narwhal]

I got my roomate an atr2100x-usb and it works fine for discord

[royal escarp]

I was kind of hoping for something that looks more like this

aesthetics matter, should've mentioned

[main narwhal]

ah

[royal escarp]

preferably as black as possible

[main narwhal]

if aethetics are your main thing, I'd just stick with that and stick with one of the companies that primarily focuses on audio

audio technica should be fine

fifines are cheap but don't necessarily sound cheap. They get the job done sort of deal

If you have a music store that sells used gear near you, might be worth a peek to see if they have any used mics, or maybe even used interface+mic bundles

[royal escarp]

cool

will do

thanks for the help man

[urban panther]

I need to work on my keychron q6 this weekend

Going to try adding o-rings to see if it's noticeably quieter

Also going to change switches form akko lavender tactile to gateron blacks

[flat dock]

what like keycap orings??

[urban panther]

Yes

[flat dock]

oh wow

that is a choice

[urban panther]

I have some sitting around

If they feel like shit I can just remove them

But uhhhhh yeah if I can't make this quieter I'll probably switch back to my K65+

[flat dock]

You could just buy silent switches

or less loud switches

[worldly garden]

U making it shitter man

Type feeling will be ruined

[flat dock]

i encourage anyone to try stuff just to get the experience

[worldly garden]

U were right

Next time i wont spoil the bad outcomes

[urban panther]

It's not like it's permanent kek

[flat dock]

so now i need to buy o-rings

[worldly garden]

Just apply oring and lmk what you thonk

[quasi stump]

Hello guys what keyboard is better in sound and gaming ajazz ak820 pro or aula 75? Sorry but I couldn't find any other channel for support

[worldly garden]

Between those two, ajazz

[quasi stump]

Thanks for help

[urban panther]

I bought a switch lubing kit that came with some
I also think I have some keycap sets that came with some

I am trying to avoid buying more switches by trying what I have at home first

[worldly garden]

That thing is prelubed

[urban panther]

I have purchased a lubing kit in the past
Unrelated to my past purchases, I am looking at silent switches as a potential upgrade

I was stating through other purchases I already own o-rings so no reason not to try them

It's not costing me anything and they're quite easy to remove if I dislike them

Also I open and lube pre-lubed switches; it's just better

[worldly garden]

Outemu silent peach

Or boba u4t silent

[worldly garden]

hmm you are suppose to clean the prelube

but ok

[urban panther]

Idk if I did I perfectly but I probably got enough out

[worldly garden]

if u are happy with it then you did good

[flat dock]

TTC Silent Bluish White

or for linears, the ttc frozen

[urban panther]

Maybe maybe

Buying new switches is last priority

I am willing to try all the "free since I already have the supplies" options first

[flat dock]

Do you actually need silent switches or just something more subdued

Buying a new keyboard is the last resort :p

[worldly garden]

silents

[flat dock]

I love silent dwitches

[cobalt eagle]

is it normal that i dont like any of the cherry mx switches

they are all horrible

[worldly garden]

preferences

is fine

cherry mx is sometimes overrated

[cobalt eagle]

way too overrated

im testing out a cherry mx blue

and they sound horrible

feedback is also not that good

[flat dock]

they do

the only clicky switch I like currently is the gateron melodic, i would like to try the kailh box white though

[worldly garden]

no

for cherries u suppose to put "some" work for them

to sound good

[flat dock]

aka copium

[worldly garden]

if u use a stock mx1a u are a psychopath

[worldly garden]

we love copium

[urban panther]

I have some box jades and they're delightful

I might be shot if I bring that into the office

[urban panther]

I am attempting to do the latter first
If I need silent switches at some point then I will do a bit of research