peripherals

[wooden ember]

mx1a dressed as mx2a

[jagged jungle]

i actualy use cherry mx goons

[worldly garden]

if u are lazy just use hmx atp

and a decent no foam board

[jagged jungle]

no.

[wooden ember]

ok i have to tend to some linux isos

[worldly garden]

and some cyl gmk's

[wooden ember]

bye

[jagged jungle]

bye

[flat dock]

hmx scratchy

[jagged jungle]

i wish to see you again

[worldly garden]

have a good one

[jagged jungle]

im going to go to bed

[worldly garden]

lol ?

[jagged jungle]

its 3:11 am

[wooden ember]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-bob-gif-25919658

[flat dock]

yeah i bought these "sonja" and they feel so scratchy for some reason

science cannot explain it

[jagged jungle]

holy bunchsnop batman

[flat dock]

we will never know the reason

[jagged jungle]

you scratched the keycaps

[worldly garden]

buy v2u

[flat dock]

i guess now it's my turn to scratch the switches

internally

[worldly garden]

hmx sonja is mid

[jagged jungle]

who is it that said they like the scratchiness of their switches

[worldly garden]

buy those high rated things

like kd200 and xinhai

[jagged jungle]

think it was a diff server

[flat dock]

they feel nice but the scratch is very inconsistent depending on pressing angle

[jagged jungle]

just sand the stems

sandpaper

[worldly garden]

just 3d printed a break in machine

[flat dock]

that is awful

you must use diamond paste

[worldly garden]

diamond polish those hmx ???

nah get out

[jagged jungle]

i actually dunk my switches in a bucket of pocket lint

really helps

[flat dock]

the real enthusiasts buy scratchy switches just to spend countless dozens of hours making them smooth

bonus points if they're vintage

[jagged jungle]

i also dump quartz sand over the keyboard with the keycaps removed and switches open

[worldly garden]

bonus bonus point if they are from west german

bonus bonus bonus point if they are brand new

[flat dock]

bonus points for just buying oil kings

[jagged jungle]

i then replace the feet and entire bottom of my keyboard case with nails

[flat dock]

or whatever people like now

[worldly garden]

2022

[jagged jungle]

i also make sure to get rusted springs

really brings out the scratch

[flat dock]

no don't buy 2022 of them

[worldly garden]

new old stock pretools is very cheap

for people who wants to be a cherry geek

[jagged jungle]

any of you guys try the rusted spring mod on ur switches?

[flat dock]

im curious what the jupiter bananas are like

[jagged jungle]

i hear its just slightly worse baby kangaroos

[flat dock]

i will probably never buy them

"Tactile (Similar to Panda switches)" but literally everything is these days

we even have "holy panda" linear switches

[jagged jungle]

just pulled out a nose hair

gn yall

[worldly garden]

just buy mmd nipple

funny name

[flat dock]

i am not googling that

mmd is an animation software

it sounds like a recipe for disaster

[worldly garden]

no balls

[flat dock]

THOCKY

[worldly garden]

baovan

viet name

[flat dock]

😮

[worldly garden]

sigh

there is a 722 for 299 rn

too broke

[flat dock]

uh

why is there a random outemu pear colored leg on my desk

how is that even possible

[boreal rivet]

the invyr panda was a linear switch

know your history

[bold turret]

I’m looking for a portable monitor for my Xbox series s, since I can’t play on the tv all the time and I don’t have room for a full tv. I want at least 120hz but it’s so hard finding a good one. I have yet to find a 1440p one.

[bold turret]

Possible???

[inland bear]

no idea if it counts as a peripheral but i got a panasonic viera st60 yesterday and its arguably the best plasma made but its insane i love it :3

[jagged jungle]

i just got accidentally sent oil kings instead of milky yellow pro

lmao

[flat dock]

Are they good

[jagged jungle]

meh not my type of switch

sond good tho

smooth

[daring anvil]

alright turbo nerds, i need a very small CRT with composite input, like total width and height must be less than 12 inches.... turns out the denon amp i bought cannot be setup without a TV connection... suffering the pains of using flagship stuff from 1991

[tardy saddle]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/396283071686

[daring anvil]

needs to have composite video

[tardy saddle]

Ah, that was not part of the original request, so now you'll have to wait while I refine my search. (Or, you could also search eBay for "small CRT composite" and see what results are returned.) I am le tired. I must have a nap, then fire ze missiles.

[daring anvil]

any result that doesnt look like ass is like a 13 inch monitor with a bigass case

also i literally said very small CRT with composite input

ill probably run down to freegeek in the afternoon tomorrow

[tardy saddle]

You are correct. I rescind my comment / my apologies - it's been a REALLY long day. Anywho, I serve you... something like this: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/396360356211

Small CRT TV's with composite are harder to find these days. Or are expensive. Or both.

[daring anvil]

yah i remember they wer all over when i was a kid

hell, finding the parts to fix our donkey kong was a nightmare

we ended up pulling the monitor out of a mario bros cabinet we had, the donkey kong was a red cabinet, obviously oworth significantly more

[tardy saddle]

Wait, hold on... do you actually need a CRT? Or do you just need a way to view something over Composite?

[daring anvil]

sold them all recently though

[daring anvil]

i mean, for now no, i suppose i could get a composite to HDMI adapter for now

[tardy saddle]

Well that, or get something like this so you can just connect it to a laptop. (There are a thousand of these on Amazon - just be wary of the REALLY cheap one's and one's without any warranty, as they're sometimes duds.)
https://hauppauge.store/product/610/

[daring anvil]

cool i could consider that

i gotta fix my IBM model M13 keyboard first

then focus on this

[tardy saddle]

Yee. Much smaller than a CRT, half the cost, and you can re-use it later if you ever need to capture composite video from something, like a game console, VHS player, DV tape camera, etc.

[daring anvil]

end game will be setting it up as a display playing initial d clips, but till be a while before that

gonna put a mini-pc in a gamecube case or somethin to run it

[timber zinc]

What would be a good keyboard that looks “normal” which to me is like the picture below. I was looking at keychron but I don’t like the key caps that much

[daring anvil]

ibm model m

[tardy saddle]

Initial D clips? Pffff, no, you see comrade, you just put this playlist on repeat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTemcPZw8Eo&list=PL3i9BHIRvTES0rAWLTOImQE6T1Rix1b5P&index=1

[tardy saddle]

I'm still stuck in 2012 back when Logitech's G710+ were around, so will defer to someone who's more up-to-date on the keyboard scene of today.

[boreal rivet]

Realforce

[daring anvil]

unironically just pick a keyboard with a switch you like the sound of, preferably one thats not 4 bajillion dollars, dont be dumb like me and spend 700 dollars on a unopened IBM keyboard @timber zinc

[boreal rivet]

High key

[jagged jungle]

can always swap keycaps btw

i also only ordered a keychron because i thought itd look better with other keycaps

[daring anvil]

i have ruined 3 NOS IBM Model M keyboards lmao

[tardy saddle]

This. So long as the stems are the same, can swap caps all day long. My G710+ currently has Razer's PBT Doubleshot caps because the original caps started to wear out and I'm cheap AF. 🤣

[jagged jungle]

my keychron

:D

[timber zinc]

Is it difficult to swap them?

I kinda like that idea

[jagged jungle]

no

yank one off

push a new one on

can get a 2$ keycap puller

[spare iris]

So I'm planning on getting a mechanical keyboard. Given how hot swapping is a thing, is there really anything I need to decide when selecting a frame other than the key layout?

[jagged jungle]

if ur going barebones (or not), look for software compatability like qmk/via, included sound dampening, whether its tray or gasket mounted, case + plate material.

polling rate and latency are good too

latency requires RTINGS or some other review tho

a lot of this stuff is about the pcb though

if you are going super duper diy a lot of this is in the air

[spare iris]

I'm not doing anything with software or RGB, this is for my computer at work and I don't think I have access to any of those softwares.

[jagged jungle]

well qmk/via lets you re bind keys or set up macros with a browser

that kind of thing

but for work just materials/mount type then

[spare iris]

Got it, thanks. I might get a second keyboard for at home eventually (we're talking in a couple of years eventually), but I use my computer at work so much more so it makes sense to focus on that first.

[jagged jungle]

gasket mounts are more flexy, tray is firmer, metal can be more reverby than plastic, yadda yadda

[spare iris]

Oh. If I can access it via browser I should be able to use it then. Maybe.

[jagged jungle]

atleast for like my keychron, you just plug it in, and allow the connection in the browser

[spare iris]

How bad is the reverb, I wouldn't want to accidentally annoy my coworkers. I've never actually used a mechanical keyboard, so I don't really have a good frame of reference outside of LTT videos

[jagged jungle]

depends on the board, keychrons Q series is a big offender

could always mod

if you wanna be quiet you could go for a plastic case with foam or sillicone and use silent switches

any key switches that arent intentionally silent are going to be substantially louder than most standard membrane or laptop keyboards

btw

or atleast sharper

most full travel linears or light tactiles should be fine tho if silence isnt like a top necessity

[spare iris]

Modding might be a future consideration but if I don't need to I'd rather not until I have more experience with mechanical keyboards. Silence isn't a top priority, I just don't want to be a bother more than anything else.

[jagged jungle]

i dont keep up with specific models because im new to this too

[timber zinc]

Any recommended places to get them or brand? I have never bought caps before

[jagged jungle]

but like keychron is the default good enough and a lot of features board

[jagged jungle]

tbh whatever looks good to you on amazon is fine

no probs with a set of 14$ keycaps i got on amazon

keep profiles in mind

cherry is like the standard but there are others

[timber zinc]

Profiles? Size?

[jagged jungle]

keycaps have different shapes

depending on the row

most try to curve like a bowl

to make closer and further keys easier to hit

cherry and most others make more sense when you notice that most keyboards have some tilt

[worldly garden]

knobbie

[timber zinc]

I was looking at this keyboard so how do I tell what profile?

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q6-max-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40799762972761

[jagged jungle]

profile is about the keycaps themselves

board doesnt really matter as long as it has south facing leds which keychrons do for the most part

also id recommend against the q6 max ngl as keychrons metal keyboards are waaay too pingy

and reverby

could give it some love tho

especially for the price it isnt grreaat

https://youtu.be/9dopQ-n9wFo?si=_rsNMiLgLs6GMcZ3

can get somehwat of a taste here

id assume bigger board might be slightly worse

its not a huge deal but it might be annoying to you

also ive hear much more reverb from other people recordings

[worldly garden]

ajazz ac0100 did the same

and cheaper

[timber zinc]

What is the difference between switches?

[jagged jungle]

which switches

[worldly garden]

other switch means other sound

other type feeling

generally that

[jagged jungle]

can get specific if u want

[timber zinc]

The red banana and brown for keychron for example

[jagged jungle]

the reds are gonna be the lightest to start pushing

smooth, no bump

they are linear, small amount of tension feeling at the bottom, the quietest

[timber zinc]

Doesn’t bother me much and I don’t normally hear my keyboard anyways but thanks for the information

[jagged jungle]

brown is gonna have a small bump mid way thru the press, slightly louder, slightly more force to press

[worldly garden]

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005006594922054.html these has close to similiar quality to that q6

[jagged jungle]

banana is gonna have a larger bump at the start, most force, loudest, shortest travel,

[worldly garden]

and half the price

@timber zinc

[jagged jungle]

red brown yellow top to bottom, force graphs

[spare iris]

Okay, I think I have the info I need for now. I'll think about it and come back when I need to search through particular brands and models. Thanks ghost.

[jagged jungle]

np

[worldly garden]

those plastic keychron is really hollow without foams

[jagged jungle]

a bit

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i dont mind it at all

[timber zinc]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265214670411?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A16GVsQVRPSZKoNcdocUq0fA42&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=265214670411&targetid=2320093655185&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9012508&poi=&campaignid=21222258394&mkgroupid=164713660992&rlsatarget=pla-2320093655185&abcId=9408285&merchantid=108419850&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD_QDh_b_IzIJ6hiiPE6S3jIAeoYo&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnui_BhDlARIsAEo9GutT-9KZJ2jhmpKvHYKRHNQpthPz00sM8n0xbP01YY2eRCPITFviQT4aAmliEALw_wcB

What would be most similar to this keyboard?

[worldly garden]

no

[timber zinc]

No this is the shit keyboard I have now

[worldly garden]

the dumpster next to ur house

oh i see

[timber zinc]

So which one is normally preferred for gaming or does it matter at all? I have a feeling I would find anything but liner kinda annoying

[jagged jungle]

ur on a membrane, browns would be the closest feel

also it is literally all preference

i game with anything tbh, if its linears i live flatter linears like silvers or smoothies though

i like browns for gaming since they are still light enough and let you know you hit actuation, makes me more confident in spamming keys or whatever

some people like linears because less force to spam keys

[timber zinc]

I don’t like membrane that much. They feel like shit which could just be this keyboard I sorta phrased that question wrong. What do you mean by bump near the bottom? Like it gets stuck before it bottom out and you have to press harder?

[jagged jungle]

which bump

[timber zinc]

.

[jagged jungle]

starts smooth, then takes a little more force before gently snapping to the bottom

you dont feel the change in force unless you are actively trying

membrane rely on a rubber dome collapsing, its kind of the same vibe, but mechanical

[worldly garden]

skill matters not your keyboard

they give out better "experiences" but skill idts

[jagged jungle]

the key kind of snaps to the bottom from the release of the subtle force after the bump

linears just go down

smooth

i personally violently hate feeling the tension at the bottom of linears that get more tense on the bottom out

like most reds

[timber zinc]

So brown would be like membrane and red would be no change in force the whole way down?

[jagged jungle]

red would be linearly increasing force

but brown would be a cleaner, light membran kind of vibe

much cleaner

[timber zinc]

Ahh okay

[jagged jungle]

heres a close up of the red graph

lemme get a better ss

[timber zinc]

So you recommend brown overall?

Of the 3

[jagged jungle]

i recommend browns to first timers

its like the safe option

its not too new of a feel, but still a much cleaner upgrade from membrane

[jagged jungle]

this is the reds

from start to bottom youll need abt 15 grams more of force at the bottom

i find it gross

you might enjoy the tension and the smooth

top red btm brwn

[timber zinc]

Alright thanks for the recommendation. So if I decide to change the caps and I wanted to do say solid black what would I have to look up to get the right ones for the keychron for the rgb to shine through and everything? I was looking around and there is an over whelming amount of options

[jagged jungle]

keychron doesnt really have rgb shine through

unless you get a side legend

the leds are on the bottom of the switch socket

for shine through youd need a side legen like this

[jagged jungle]

but nah, just get some cherry profile keycaps that you like the look of

unless its god bad reviews itll prolly be fine

btw look for doubleshot pbt

takes longer to get greasy/smooth and is gonna be sturdier

[timber zinc]

So I don’t want shine through right? It wouldn’t look right I would assume if not side printed

[jagged jungle]

yea dont go shine thru if you are getting a board with south facing leds

like basically every keychron

[worldly garden]

there is non side legend shine thru

[jagged jungle]

ok and it prolly looks stupid

ok

[worldly garden]

its looks normal

like those gaming keyboard keycaps

side printed was a dumb thing all the time

[jagged jungle]

i dont recall normal shine throughs looking good on south leds

i thought that was a whole thing

[worldly garden]

just get a pc board if u want rgb

[jagged jungle]

he was asking about shine though keycaps

im just informing

also i like my south facing rgb tyvm

its not as awesome as shine thru but it adds a lot

solid dim purple

[worldly garden]

get transperent keycaps

works all the time

[jagged jungle]

let me be happy with my board

[jagged jungle]

but ye for a first mech id say start brown and you can get cheap like 35 switch sets to try other styles if you want to down the line

can replace your alphabet keys + a few other and get the vibe

[worldly garden]

indeed

we gotta raise our innerchild sometime

[worldly garden]

which one specificcally

[timber zinc]

So they make shine through key caps that can reflect the light to work with south facing? Just asking I play in a dark environment so I do find them useful and side printed just looks ugly AF to me

[worldly garden]

else he will end up with huano browns

[jagged jungle]

i dunno man

[timber zinc]

Fair enough

[jagged jungle]

i dont think so

it really isnt that bad though

[worldly garden]

https://www.amazon.com/transparent-keycaps/s?k=transparent+keycaps

[jagged jungle]

i can read my pink on black in the dark fine enough so im sure white on black is fine

[worldly garden]

get those

they will work no matter the south facing and north facing

[jagged jungle]

you could always not

[timber zinc]

Good idea

[jagged jungle]

ugly keycaps fr

[timber zinc]

https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-PBT-Keycaps-Material-English/dp/B09V9MWWD7/ref=asc_df_B09V9MWWD7?mcid=b53d0e88a1763d01b7ccfd7b5d51f65f&hvocijid=16728219818295406776-B09V9MWWD7-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16728219818295406776&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012508&hvtargid=pla-2281435177418&psc=1

So for example this are shine through

Will not shine through at all? I would fine with these

Since it’s white

[jagged jungle]

do you wanna see what it looks like

a pbt shine thru on my south facing leds

[timber zinc]

Sure

[worldly garden]

they will shine thru

[timber zinc]

Idk I wouldn’t mind if they aren’t fully brightness or not at all. Just trying to find keycaps like the ones I’m used too

[jagged jungle]

the G is a lot dimmer irl btw

and it takes max brightness to noticably change color

ymmv

[timber zinc]

Ngl wouldn’t mind it

[jagged jungle]

imo it just takes an obnoxious amount of side glow to have a point in the shinethru

you might not hate it tho

[timber zinc]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/gaming-gear-accessories/ch-9911060-na/pbt-double-shot-pro-keycap-mod-kit-aca-a-onyx-black-na-ch-9911060-na are these o rings a good idea

[timber zinc]

I could deal with it kinda looks like what my shitty keyboard does now

[jagged jungle]

for me the amount of glow between the keycaps being like 90% brighter than the shine though is straight up distracting

but feel free to play around

amazon returns exist

[worldly garden]

oring on keycaps will transfer ur fancy mechanical keyboard back to membrane

[timber zinc]

Thought so

[worldly garden]

gmk amethyst

[jagged jungle]

im good with my 14$ keycaps

[timber zinc]

So would these work just dont use the rings?

[jagged jungle]

if thats an option

yea prolly

[timber zinc]

Yeah they are optional just looked it up

Alright thanks for the help guys I’ll be looking at options.

[jagged jungle]

Have fun with it

[timber zinc]

I’ll try

[worldly garden]

dont buy keycaps from gamer brands

u are buying the name only

[timber zinc]

Yea but it’s only 30 bucks not too big of a deal. Plus I know someone that had these exact keys and I liked them so I know I will use them

[jagged jungle]

👌👍

[worldly garden]

yes

30 bucks got u pbtfans

epbtfans etc

those are proper brands

and aifei

i got that u have tried it but there are always smth better

[flat dock]

gmk buyers

(this is a joke for legal reasons)

[worldly garden]

u are about to trigger 548 elitists

[flat dock]

i think i already did

[worldly garden]

dont get me wrong

gmk gud

is affordable these days

🤓

[chrome raft]

SP DCS > OG Cherry dyesub > og cherry ds > GMK > CRP

[worldly garden]

profile difference

[boreal rivet]

Topre oem>>>>>>>>

[magic wolf]

How would you guys configure QMK (VIA in my case) in this scenario

I want, caps lock to have 2 different functions,
1, as caps lock.
2, as its own "FN" key

currently

Layer 0 = caps lock / caps lock
Layer 0 = FN / MO(2)

Layer 1 = caps lock / MO(3)
Layer 1 = FN / MO(2)

how could I put a TG to switch between layer 0 and layer 1

could Layer 1 FN be MO(4) to to then use the caps lock key to switch between Layer 0 and Layer 1?

[flat dock]

So you get a different layer when holding both fn and caps lock?

Hmmm

[magic wolf]

I would like to use the caps lock key to intuitively toggle between Layer 1 and Layer 0

[flat dock]

Oh

Hmm

[magic wolf]

oh im overthinking the hell out of this.

I have these function keys that could just be dedicated switches instead

F13-24 can be replaced easily within MO2

sweet im all good then

idk if anyone cares about macro suggestions but the whole point of this shebang is....

caps lock-wasd / windows snap shortcuts, caps q / alt + F4

and caps-zxc app specific but

You guys should try it

caps-zxc could also be the virtual desktops shortcuts too

[chrome raft]

no brainer

[chrome raft]

so?

its my preference

[median beacon]

What is the most reliable wireless headset mostly for gaming on pc? Audeze Maxwell has seemingly some iffy reviews and I’d rather keep it under $150. I’m considering the HyperX cloud III.

[tardy saddle]

https://www.soundguys.com/gaming-headsets/

[tardy saddle]

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/by-usage/gaming

[tardy saddle]

As with anything in life, there is no "best" thing in any one category, but if you want my recommendation, the Logitech G733's have been rock solid for the last 2.5 years I've had them.

[main narwhal]

You can use layer tap

Lt(x,keycode)

Toggle*

Layer x on hold, keycode on tap

LT(1,KC_CAPS)

If you put arrows on wasd on layer one, it would let you hold caps with pinky and arrow with wasd

Is that what you were trying to do?

[magic wolf]

this is exactly what ive needed thank you so much. Why this key is not presented in Via / KLauncher blows my mind

looking closer https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/docs/feature_layers.md

theres a lot more untapped potential here

[magic wolf]

still need the windows key for the snap shortcuts in this instance.

I think I need to stick with macros here

[main narwhal]

you mean screenshot?

KC_PSCR will trigger print screen, which can be tied in windows to launch the clipper tool

or you mean like the left and right windows snapping

or tell me what you are trying to get qmk to do

[dense flare]

what switches were better was it linear or tactile I forgot

currently running boba u4t's and I'm planning on switching to Gateron Milky Yellow Pro's

going from tactile to linear

I have a chance to get 110 pcs of them for 20€

[worldly garden]

well thats a downgrade

[dense flare]

the milky yellow pro's are prelubed and i'm running the boba's unlubed since idh the time and patience for that

[worldly garden]

back then 1 boba can buy 4 milky yellows

better kept those boba

if u think milky yellows worth it then give it a try

[serene sluice]

Is the G Pro Superlight good?

or is there something better thats not 180$ 💀

I have this right now and I think its good, but my reviever likes to be dumb, but it is 2.4Ghz and there are a ton of networks in my vacinity that could be causeing issues

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/gaming-mouse/ch-931d100-na/corsair-m75-air-wireless-ultra-lightweight-gaming-mouse-black-ch-931d100-na

Also the Pulsar PCMK 2 HE TKL looks pretty good for the cost

[frail pine]

If I get a bluetooth dongle, how can I check what bt version it is?

[main narwhal]

should be on packaging

can check device manager ot verify

to

[spring dew]

Do you guys have any peripherals or peripheral upgrades you think are must haves or should be first things to change

[frail pine]

That depends on what you have rn

[spring dew]

Fair point, I can post what I have rn but I more so was wondering what people first like to upgrade

[main narwhal]

should be in the advanced tab

[frail pine]

Uhhhh

[main narwhal]

try to get the right drivers for it first

[frail pine]

That would be great if I knew where to get them from

[main narwhal]

assuming you tried windows update already

you have a picture of the dongle?

no logos on it with a company name?

[frail pine]

no logo, just a white text saying V5.0

i fixed it, i had to disable the integrated bluetooth of the laptop and afterwards the advanced tab had the data

it's bt 5.3 according to the firmware version

thank you for the help <3

[main narwhal]

ahhh, nice

[wintry bough]

anyone have any idea of nice black keycaps for my keychron k2, the legends should be shine through for the keyboard backlighting, and if the function keys have the right media key symbols on them thats a huge bonus, not a requirement tho, im in the uk

[main narwhal]

most premium sets won't have shinethrough

look into puddings?

[wintry bough]

anything specific?

[main narwhal]

puddings is a keycap style

there's a bunch of listings but afaik they all come from the same factory

[wintry bough]

yeah i just googled it, its like the keycap is entirely transparnet right

[main narwhal]

no

[wintry bough]

or at least somewhat opaque

google is wrong then ig

[main narwhal]

translucent skirt around the cap, black top, shinethrough legends

gskill produces something similar that IS transparent, but i don't know if it comes in ISO

not produces, sells

called crystal crowns

[wintry bough]

i want the whole keycap to be solid black, and just the legend be shine through

[flat dock]

Does it have south facing or north facing leds

[wintry bough]

how do i tell

[flat dock]

is the led at the top or bottom side of the switch

[wintry bough]

the top

[flat dock]

The stock ones are shine through too, right

[wintry bough]

yeah but i want black ones now instead of the stock grey ones

[flat dock]

Oh I clicked on the k2 max

Hold on

[wintry bough]

normal k2

not k2 max

[wintry bough]

holding on 🙏

[flat dock]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/all-keycaps/products/cherry-profile-double-shot-pbt-shine-through-keycap-set

Keychron sells this

I think that might be one of the only double shot pbt options without going for gaming

[main narwhal]

iso

[wintry bough]

thats us site, any chance u can find the listing on uk version?

im so lost using their website

[main narwhal]

you have a iso layout?

or are you just based in europe

[wintry bough]

how do i tell

i live in the uk

[main narwhal]

is your enter key a rectangle

[wintry bough]

uh no, its a

[main narwhal]

upside down L

[wintry bough]

idek how to describe it, lemme take a photo

[main narwhal]

it's an ISO enter

[main narwhal]

yeah

[flat dock]

The UK keychron website sucks

[wintry bough]

Thanks I think I realised 😭

It’s a struggle

[main narwhal]

mechboard.co.uk or mechsupply will be your best bet

both based in uk

[wintry bough]

can u find the best listing on those websites then

[main narwhal]

mechsupply probabably wouldn't have keycaps like that I don't think actually

[flat dock]

Wtf is LSA profile

they have it on Spain keychron

[main narwhal]

what countries can you order from?

it's their low profile keycaps

[flat dock]

idk if I can be of much help for UK because idk what stores exist

[wintry bough]

not many to be completely honest unfortunately 😭

overclockers? ebuyer?

[flat dock]

I wonder if aliexpress has something

[main narwhal]

ali has everything

[flat dock]

Well they have something

But idk if its good

[wintry bough]

thats a bit of a gamble

[main narwhal]

maybe this @wintry bough https://www.amazon.co.uk/Glorious-Gaming-Translucent-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B0F14K498Z

lots of 1u options so you can have the right legend'd key along the right

in the right profile

[wintry bough]

why is it ascend rather than enter 😭

[flat dock]

its WHAT instead of enter

Wtf is that lmfao

[flat dock]

that's so hilariois

[wintry bough]

i do NOT want to ascend 🤣

[main narwhal]

There's a normal one too

Look at the bottom

[wintry bough]

where what

oh yeah i see

just me being blind lmao

[main narwhal]

Ascend is their branding or w/e

[wintry bough]

its the best one ive seen so far i think, only thing is the mis matched media keys 😭

[main narwhal]

ngl that's going to be a tough pull

[wintry bough]

yeah

can i rebind the media keys 😭

no its built into the keyboard right?

I never know what to use this key for, it’s technically a screenshot button but I’m more than capable of windows shift s

[flat dock]

j believe on that keyboard you can't rebind

[wintry bough]

god damn

so it would be better to get a keychron keycap set then 😭

[main narwhal]

You can on the newer ones

[wintry bough]

aw man 😭

[main narwhal]

Do you have a listing for what you bought?

[wintry bough]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09P393R2Q?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1

its the white led backlight version

bc i was a lil stupid and didnt read the full listing

[main narwhal]

I don't think so

Don't know if you can reprogram

[wintry bough]

this is so much chaos its almost worth getting a new keyboard

which i genuinely could do as i have a birthday next month

any ideas? 😭

i rly wanna still have media keys, i like my brown switches but maybe something that feels a bit more clicky to type on as this feels a bit more mushy despite being mechanical? i rly like the idea of having proper rgb backlights rather than white ones, and i would love if the keyboard stuff and lights n stuff was controllable via a software or something

[flat dock]

Wdym by it being kinda mushy

It feels soft on the bottom?!

[wintry bough]

no not soft

like i want it to feel a bit more clicky

it just feels like its mushing into plastic when the keys bottom out, i want it to be more clicky if that makes sense

[flat dock]

Hmm that's weird because normally it shouldn't feel mushy, plastic is solid

You can get clicky switches

[wintry bough]

yeah maybe i need clicky switches

but then that makes them so much louder right

i dont want them to be like excessively loud

[main narwhal]

Your board is hot swap

[flat dock]

clicky as in literally clicky or do you just want more tactile feedback

[wintry bough]

thats true but i still cant rebind the media keys 😔

[wintry bough]

like i want it to feel more clicky under my fingers

like not mouse click level of clicky tho?

but like closer to mouse click than it is rn

[flat dock]

you could try gateron melodic maybe

[wintry bough]

according to chatgpt, the actual switches on my keyboard r soldered

not hotswappable

i thought it was hotswappable

ima dig deeeper i dont trust chatgpt

i was right, chatgpt was wrong

[flat dock]

Don't listen to chatgpt

[wintry bough]

well its not always all bad

[flat dock]

https://youtu.be/KL3jIEMji0s?si=mnf_9hi0lRxkSSS2

melodic is at the end

[wintry bough]

is there anything that is more clacky sounding but clicky feeling?

[flat dock]

everything clicky feeling is gonna have a chirpy sound

I think that's the only way to create the click feel

[wintry bough]

oh man keyboards r so complex

[flat dock]

I wonder if ceramic keycaps would tone it down but that's kinda a silly thing to buy

[spring dew]

There is a big rabbit hole, honestly go look at some reviews and most do a sound test

You can also use the keeb finder site, it has some basic filters and a decent amount of filters on there

Also what’s your budget

[main narwhal]

Some tactiles feel snappy

[wintry bough]

Maybe £200 absolute limit

GBP

[wintry bough]

Such as?

[spring dew]

Okay so options exist

[main narwhal]

dark jades are my favorite

/moyu blacks

for snappy tactiles

[wintry bough]

Went to a keyboard dedicated server

Now looking at not getting shine through keycaps

Keychron Q3 Max, with some sort of sharp panda-like switch (undecided on switch yet), with these keycaps https://www.keychron.uk/products/double-shot-pbt-osa-full-set-keycap-set

[flat dock]

What do you think of the weighting on your (I think gateron g pro) browns?

[late zinc]

Stop it.

[wintry bough]

It’s not bad, but I would prefer the panda like switches as they have the bump closer to the top

[worldly garden]

chatgpt knows shit about peripherals

[wintry bough]

Update, keyboard selected, Q3 Max, keycaps selected, Double shot PBT OSA keychron keycaps in “white on black” (black keycaps, white legends), I’m still undecided on what switches tho, looking for a tactile panda-like switch with the bump at the top of the key press, more of a deeper thocky sound is ideal

Looking to be a nice upgrade so far from my current K2 white backlight version

[thorny ferry]

ChatGPT can fuck off

[wintry bough]

Okay I think I get it guys thanks 😭

[thorny ferry]

It should not be a habit to research with ChatGPT

[worldly garden]

pansy everglide v2

[wintry bough]

Oh those sound good but they’re a little light

Maybe closer to 60g actuation force? Those are around 40g

[worldly garden]

u can spring swap

[wintry bough]

I’m somewhat limited in hardware interaction capabilities, that seems complicated 😭

[worldly garden]

simple as it is

u take the swithch âprt and throw in the springs

then clip it back

[wintry bough]

And I have to do that like almost 90 times

A TKL has almost 90 keys right?

Looking at getting the Q3 max

I counted 88 myself with my eyes on the Q3 but I don’t trust my counting

[worldly garden]

87-88

depends on the layout

f12 or f13

neo80 > q3 idk why u get the keychron

chatgpt ?

[lyric seal]

Hello. Need suggestions for a good quality wireless mouse with a simple, inconspicuous design like the Logitech Superlight, but with a durable scroll wheel that doesn't break in 6 months, unlike the Superlight.

[solar frigate]

Hi does someone have like 150 bucks so I can buy ceramic keycaps (JOKE)

[lyric seal]

Sure, bro, just send front and back pictures of your credit card so I can mail it directly (jk)

[solar frigate]

LMAO

https://www.cerakey.com/products/two-toned-ceramic-keycap-set-v2?variant=43156390477963 these look so nice and no one will be able to change my mind

[wintry bough]

I have the first gen of this mouse, never had issues, how did the scroll wheel break?

Haven’t ever had issues with mine

Got mine back in Dec 2023

[lyric seal]

about 7-8 months after I bought it the scroll wheel started going both ways when scrolling one way. The issues are intermittent so when I took it to the store it was working and they said they'll send it for "repairs" but it will be rejected.

The issue has slowly gotten worse

[wintry bough]

Only issue I’ve had is the grippy stickers collect dust round the edges

[wintry bough]

That seems like a lemon to me

Do u play any games or do any tasks that are particularly strenuous on the scroll wheel?

[worldly garden]

iirc 98% of those chinese budget mouse looks like spl

[lyric seal]

now 2 years later I can barely scroll on a page.
The "hack" where you turn it off and start spinning the scroll wheel, only solves the problem for 30 minutes.

[wintry bough]

That may have made it wear faster

[worldly garden]

buy gmk ( this is a joke too )

[lyric seal]

will their scroll wheel last?

[worldly garden]

it usually go for 50$ and under

so

how did u even break a scroll wheel 💀

[lyric seal]

By using the mouse I guess

haven't dropped it, haven't thrown it, haven't spilled anything on it.

when I googled this there are a lot of people complaining about this issue on the Superlight btw

Great mouse otherwise, good sensor, comfy, simple look. I just want to be able to scroll pages again without the page jittering up and down.

[worldly garden]

look up those vxe mouse

people will recommend attackshark too, but i wont personally

[flat dock]

look into the gateron type-r perhaps, the entire travel is a bump

a lot of people like it and the weighting should be good for you

you could spring swap something but there's 10000 switches in that 60-70g bottom out range

you could probably find something

[wintry bough]

Oh those seem good

I like the look of those

(Not in a literal visual sense, you know what I mean)

So now I’m stuck between the Gateron type r and the everfree greyish

[lyric seal]

sorry for the late reply. Why wouldn't you recommend it?
Also, I didn't specify this, but I'm not necessarily looking for a budget option. As long as it's good.

[worldly garden]

terrible mcu

my friend had a r1 it died in 3 months lol

[lyric seal]

Yeah... The main thing I want is reliability...

[vernal sleet]

Anyone able to suggest an ergonomic chair? Been looking for a couple weeks but cant really decide. Tryna get best bang for buck

Some said to get one off amazon, others said to get a used known brand on eBay.

My budget was £100 max but was willing to up it to about 150 to get a better quality one that will hopefully last longer.
I'm in the UK if that helps with recommending any

Only thing I can think of that I might benefit from is a compact wheel base as I've got a little bit of a tight space on the left side of where the chair will be, but the rest of the build should be fine

[flint dew]

Yall I need an actually good TKL keyboard worth the money budget is around 200-400

[worldly garden]

100 for an ergo chair ??

[worldly garden]

do u want a prebuilt

[flint dew]

Wdym?

[azure breach]

prebuilt or custom built keyboard

[flint dew]

Prebuilt I’m guessing

[worldly garden]

evo80

nothing else

maybe some keycaps change if you are like me and think those are ugly

[flint dew]

Okay and for a custom ?

[worldly garden]

depends

[flint dew]

I had to look up what those ment lol

[worldly garden]

custom complicated the problem a bit

[flint dew]

Oh ?

[worldly garden]

it came down to what layout do you want

what sounds do you want them to gave out etc

aesethics

alot of elements

here are the basis

[flint dew]

Oh boy…

[vernal sleet]

That's why I said I could stretch to 150, if it makes any difference I don't know. Otherwise, what are my options? I was told gaming chairs are shit and to get an ergonomic

So not sure what you'd recommend outside of that and within that budget, but if it's just a gaming chair ideally dont wanna spend 150

[worldly garden]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/nfvq46/best_ergonomic_chair_under_150/

these might help

[flint dew]

Yea idk abt the custom lol

thats like a lot of uh thinking and

A prebuilt should be just as fine

Right?

[flat dock]

a lot of 'custom' keyboards are prebuilt

Idk if the custom label is super descriptive tbh

[flint dew]

Mmm

[worldly garden]

technically

you can custom a prebuilt keyboard

[flint dew]

So @worldly garden in your opinion evo80 is the best TKL keyboard for gaming

[worldly garden]

if you want something technically "best for gaming" imo you need a 500$+ keyboard case and a 60$ venom he tkl pcb

and those switches adds up a bit

😂

[flat dock]

how

[worldly garden]

isnt he is the best for gaming bao 🤓

[flat dock]

idk

you can get cheaper he keyboards

But also isn't the whole advantage of he now considered a cheat

that quick tapping what ever thing

[worldly garden]

idk if u watch cs 2 esports

[flat dock]

I do not

[worldly garden]

i watched those and players still use wooting

lol

[flat dock]

maybe they have it disabled

regular keyboard but you can configure the actuation point

[flat dock]

How much is your budget

[worldly garden]

...

idk if u can do that on mech

switches have different trigger points

[flat dock]

yeah I mean I was saying maybe they're just using HE as if it was normal

Because I'm pretty sure the quick tapping thing is banned in cs

Oh no

That was just the "snap tap" thing where it can cancel strafing keys

[flint dew]

200-400

if i even need to buy thay high

[flat dock]

oh wait you did say that

[worldly garden]

evo80 is 180

idk what sounds do you like tho

[flat dock]

how's it compare to like neo80, I've seen a lot of people raving about the neo series

Or is the neo not prebuilt

[vernal sleet]

First one was from a company named staples which looks pretty decent but Im in the Uk

[flint dew]

no i forgot to put that in the thing lol

[worldly garden]

compare in what

[vernal sleet]

And if an ergonomic isnt worthit at 150, what are the options?

[flat dock]

against the evo

[worldly garden]

in what element

[flat dock]

Unless the neo isn't prebuilt then that's not a good optiom

value? quality? everything

[flint dew]

yea alot of people said to get the Wooting 80HE

[worldly garden]

tigerlite gaming

[flat dock]

wtf is that 80he layout that's terrifying

[flint dew]

or Keychron V3 Max

[flat dock]

The v3 max pretty good

I know that one

[flint dew]

Mmmm okay

[vernal sleet]

@worldly gardenhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DJLW99T6This is one that I was recommended

Only 2 reviews tho

[worldly garden]

u have 200 for a keyboard and u are buying a keychron

nah

[flint dew]

soo the wooting 80HE

[flat dock]

yeah cause keychron is slightly expensive 🧌

[worldly garden]

tiger lite gaming

is better quality and cheaper

[worldly garden]

i cant access thoé lol

[flint dew]

idm it being more expensive if its worth it

and better quality how

[worldly garden]

not at all compared to my recs

[flint dew]

that keyboars like $80 lol

[flat dock]

It needs switches I believe

[worldly garden]

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-tiger-lite-gaming-keyboard-kit?variant=42892608798859

kbdfans do provide add on switches

[flat dock]

And key caps

[worldly garden]

how ? because wooting is overpriced all the time

[worldly garden]

where is the ergo part but the headrest lol

[vernal sleet]

Lol I don't know what im looking for this is just what someone here suggested the other day

I've been tryns look around but can't find much. And if I csnt grt one for my budget then not sure what to look at cos people have said gsming chairs are shit

[flint dew]

Yea someone told me the neo80

[worldly garden]

if u want to build a custom i will choose neo80 over evo80

[flint dew]

ok

[vernal sleet]

SIHOO M18 Ergonomic Chair is another one I keep seeing pop up around the range I was gonna spend

[flint dew]

Dang it’s unavailable anyways

[worldly garden]

used market ?

[flint dew]

oh yea lol

What abt steel series apex pro

?

[worldly garden]

gaming are terrible

try to avoid them

[flint dew]

???

[ionic briar]

how about the sihoo m57?

wow that is way over the budget

the m18 instead I guess

[vernal sleet]

155.99 on their site

Only a couple quid more than the m18

[ionic briar]

yea that's the one

[vernal sleet]

having a look at reviews, someone said it has sideways wobble but they got sent a replacement part to fix it and it stopped happening

Think Ill just grab the m57

Comes to 145.99 with a discount code

Picked that one up, hopefully it's good cos I'm fed up of a shitty wooden chair with 2 pillows 😂

Thank you

[flint dew]

Is the Logitech g915 TKL the good keyboard for gaming ?

[wintry bough]

Decided on new keyboard:

• Barebones Keychron Q3 Max
• Keychron Double Shot PBT OSA Keycaps in dark black
• 90x Everfree Grayish switches

[jagged jungle]

the newer x version has much more durable keycaps

and is better

but if you want a low profile gamerboard its basically one of the very few options

[flint dew]

Oh okay

Someone told me to just do a custom keyboard

So how’s this ?

[main narwhal]

at a certain point it's all preference

if you enjoy using your board and it isn't actively making your gaming experience worse, then it's a good board

[wintry bough]

i decided on a keyboard, keycaps and switches combo

[main narwhal]

i saw 😄

[wintry bough]

sorry didnt mean to reply or ping 😭

[main narwhal]

no is k 😛

[wintry bough]

• Keychron Q3 Max (scams me out of £17 as UK iso version isn’t available in barebones)
• Ghost Judges WoB keycaps
• Everfree Grayish switches

[wintry bough]

changed keycaps

[main narwhal]

shinethrough is hard to find in the hobby

[wintry bough]

and also changed keyboard as the previous one wasnt iso UK layout

[wintry bough]

idk why 😭

[main narwhal]

puddings already exist

there's a couple of old chinese manu'd SA sets that are single color with shine through

pom jellies do rgb quite well

generally can find that sorta thing on aliexpress

[wintry bough]

£257.07 on a keyboard, kinda crazy

[flat dock]

its because most people don't care about shine through legends anyways, either the room.is bright or you touch type

And north facing LEDs are incompatible with many low keycap profile

[wintry bough]

Yeah fair enough

[crisp patrol]

inb4

[flat dock]

That's just for indicators

[crisp patrol]

really?

no way

[flat dock]

wdym

Did you not look at them lmao

[crisp patrol]

[main narwhal]

Lock indicators but also those aren't common either

[flat dock]

i need one of those for the caps lock on my rainy 75 since it's almost impossible to tell if it's on with the stock keycap

[jagged jungle]

ong

[boreal rivet]

You can tell by typing

[flat dock]

indeed

then i have to backspace the last two words i typed

[boreal rivet]

skill issue

[flat dock]

@wintry bough oh i just found out about these, have you considered the kailh box mute jade

apparently they're clicky but with less sharp of a sound/chirp

[worldly garden]

kalih box went with muting when

[wintry bough]

That sound is terrible, just watched a vid review on them 😭

[chrome ocean]

keyboard noob here, previously i always use the volume knob to adjust volume. now that I'm trying keyboards without a knob, what is the easiest way to adjust volume? The fastest way I can think of is to set FN+arrow keys, is there anything better?

[worldly garden]

what keybaord do u have rn

[chrome ocean]

drunkdeer a75 pro, bought the melgeek made84 pro on the way

[worldly garden]

use your keyboard

keymap app

remap it in somewhere fits you the most

[novel orchid]

So I want to try new switches in my keyboard. I have currently keychron k pro red switches. But I was thinking of buying gateron milky yellows. But the thing is, I'm scared it's gonna be too similar to what i currently have. So can anyone tell me if it's different enough, and if it's not, give me another option please...

[main narwhal]

subjective

yellows are heavier, whether or not you'd be able to tell is on you

[main narwhal]

what i would do is

find a store that will sell you gat yellows in like a 10 pack or in singles

get a few, swap out like 5-10 keys and see if you like it

that way your investment amount stays low

if you live in the US, flashquark out of new york sells gat milky yellows in singles

https://flashquark.com/product/pcb-mount-milky-gateron-switches-5-legs/

pick up some other singles witches while you at it to see if you wanted to try anything else

[heady compass]

Chat my monitor is fucked

Barely 2 years old btw do not buy iiyama

[novel orchid]

I'm from belgium lol haha. And a 110 pack is only like 23 bucks...

[chrome raft]

i have those!

[main narwhal]

you can order from germany fine then right?

keygem carries 10 packs

[novel orchid]

Is key gem German or what?

[main narwhal]

yeah

I thought they were from belgium

if not they near the border

[novel orchid]

https://keygem.com/products/gateron-milky-yellow-switch-10pcs

https://keygem.com/products/gateron-yellow-ks-9-10pcs

Which of those 2 would you recommend?

[main narwhal]

pros are pre lubed

at factory

they should have gateron milky yellow pro

[novel orchid]

I'm not going to lube them myself so would i pick up the pros?

It's 7 bucks on shipping so it's already 10 bucks for 10. Wouldn't I be better of buying 110 for 23 bucks then?

[main narwhal]

ah

[novel orchid]

https://keychron.be/products/gateron-ks-3x1-milky-switch?variant=44383366152347

[novel orchid]

And it even comes in a bottle?

[main narwhal]

bottle costs nothing, just convenient if you don't have another way to store things. ziplocs work fine

if you not going to bother lubing, go with milky pro

a lot of it all boils down to preference

[novel orchid]

Yeah but bottle is fancier and nicer then ziplock bhahaha

[main narwhal]

the things that aren't preference are like, if you need cutouts for LEDs, 3 vs 5 pin, etc

[novel orchid]

Yeah I know

[main narwhal]

clear top for rgb, etc

[novel orchid]

Could the milky pro yellow be 3 or 5? Or is it always the same?

And what is it?

[main narwhal]

5 pin is preferable if your pcb supports it for the switch to stay straighter, sometimes with softer plates the switch can get a lil crooked

[jagged jungle]

i spent like 4 hours cutting up my plate and sanding my new stabs to get them to fit

but i did it

now have tx ap v4 in my keychron v3 max

[full loom]

anyone here have any experience with flashing keymaps to a QMK keyboard? specifically im using a framework laptop 16 and am trying to flash some keybinds to my macropad but the commands i used before have either changed or maybe i missed one?

oh hey iroh

i thought i recognized your name from the framework discord server lol

[cobalt eagle]

hey guys im looking for a keyboard for gaming and quite a lot of typing , im looking for something with low profile (if possible), must be TKL and i want clicky switches with strong tactile feedback

[jagged jungle]

cant believe im not recognized

all i can think of for iroh is the rog azoth but thats 75%

[cobalt eagle]

i checked it and the price is not worth it for what u get

do you think i should build my own keyboard?

[jagged jungle]

eh

also can be expensive

you could tho

[cobalt eagle]

i mean depends on what you buy

but its full customizzed to my liking

[jagged jungle]

could always customize a
-# ||keychron||

theres the nuphy air keyboards

but they have a habit of

💥

[cobalt eagle]

?

💥 ❓

[cobalt eagle]

oooooh

💥 💥

[jagged jungle]

from a thread

[cobalt eagle]

isnt that illegale to sell then?

[jagged jungle]

its a shame considering how good they seem

[jagged jungle]

#1, chinese company
#2, consumer protection is fake
#3, its not wide spread enough to force them to do something other than say it's user error or some bs

[cobalt eagle]

chinese company is not equal to bad quality

[jagged jungle]

it is equal to safety from US persecution

and also small company

[cobalt eagle]

crazy

so small company and they are selling shit

[jagged jungle]

their non air keyboards are pretty decent but their low profiles have battery swelling issues

yep

[cobalt eagle]

so what do you recommend me then

[jagged jungle]

dont have much in mind

[cobalt eagle]

i did find this

its not clicky

[jagged jungle]

not clicky

[cobalt eagle]

but it does have the tactile feedback

[jagged jungle]

i have one of those and i like it tho

its a bit on the noisier side but its not like total gamerboard shit

[cobalt eagle]

i have the logitech g413 tkl SE

and idk

something lacks there

the tactile feedback

feels off

idk how to explain it

it has gx brown switches

i currently got a MSI keyboard with white low profile clicky switches

and i quite like it

but the keycaps are breaking apart

[jagged jungle]

idk how you daily clickies

[cobalt eagle]

i think the "off feeling" i have is from it not being a low profile keyboard

[jagged jungle]

no idea

but tactile feedback mechanisms are different from clickies

[cobalt eagle]

yeah i made a mistake there

i thought tactile and clicky

had the same feedback feeling

i just thought

clicky = sound + feedback
tactile = no sound + same feedback

im gonna return the g413 tomorrow

[full loom]

my focus was screwed up lol i recognize ya

[jagged jungle]

@cobalt eagle

some work differly

as well

[full loom]

personally i prefer the tactile ones with the full travel, whichever switches were on the corsair keyboard that came with the bfcm backpack sale

[cobalt eagle]

ic

[jagged jungle]

like box jades here

[full loom]

although that one ive been having issues with it repeating keys, like a key bounce problem or something

[jagged jungle]

depress this spring arm

and release it to click

whereas this is how most tactiles work

left is tactile stem

different feeling

[cobalt eagle]

yeah so i need clicky for sure

but with my current clicky keyboard i feel like the feedback is not enough

[jagged jungle]

clickies usually have a "cleaner" feedback because they are able to get away with more noise

[cobalt eagle]

is it because of the switches or is it because its hard to pull off the feedback on a lowprofile keyboard

[jagged jungle]

prolly 50/50

[cobalt eagle]

yeah i want that "cleanerness"

[jagged jungle]

ive hear great things about kailh box jades from clicky enjoyers so full size with a wrist rest might be the play

its what i do

part of it could also be that most tactiles like the logitech are brown

those barely have a bump

something more prominent might interest you more

like baby kangaroos (im using rn)

[cobalt eagle]

yeah i heard ppl say they are basically linear

[jagged jungle]

i didnt really believe that until i tried baby kangaroos

and yea, i see it now

[crisp patrol]

clickleaf >

[cobalt eagle]

i currently got kailh white switches low profile

is there a way to see how much feedback they give?

compared to like other switches

[jagged jungle]

yes

[cobalt eagle]

where

[jagged jungle]

force graphs

this is the best one i could find for yours

"bump" of increased force shows it

heres a gateron low profile blue

to compare

vs a brown

[cobalt eagle]

is the bump of mine considerd to be high or low?

is it high feedback or low feedback

to me they feel like low feedback

[jagged jungle]

well based on a quick gander id say it looks a lot smaller than a gateron blue

so that checks out

you can see with yer eyes

on the graph

white

vs blue

[cobalt eagle]

so im probably gonna be happier with the blue one

[jagged jungle]

this is a gateron low profile blue

would feel a bit stronger

yes

[cobalt eagle]

would be very noticably stronger

[jagged jungle]

idk about VERY noticable

but quite noticable

[cobalt eagle]

because i get pain from my current ones after hours of gaming and typing

[jagged jungle]

what kinda pain

[cobalt eagle]

i dont know if its because of the mini impacts my fingers get when i fully tap out the keys

after some time it feels that the keys are heavy

[jagged jungle]

if its sore, prolly the switches
if its pain, we got an ergonomic issue (more likely)

[cobalt eagle]

i would say sore more

[jagged jungle]

well if you are after a more noticable feedback, that would mean you want heavier switches

which would prolly tire you out more

[cobalt eagle]

yeah thats the problem

but i think its more because of the low profileness dont you think

i always fully tap out the keys

like pretty rough