peripherals

[boreal rivet]

Doesn’t mean shit

[flat dock]

What are you supposed to do

just throw your hands up and buy something random because reviews don't mean anything?

[worldly garden]

they are paid

[flat dock]

I don't think the one by switch and click is

[upper radish]

Any good keyboards for around 50 usd

Cuz im not spending 100 usd for an apex 9 mini

[upper radish]

Preferably mechanical

[boreal rivet]

No? You buy a realforce or mx blacks

[flat dock]

lmfao

[boreal rivet]

you laugh but its the truth

[worldly garden]

the video which are years ago ?

the updrage video iirc ?

[flat dock]

It is a 3 month old video man.

Idk what that second message even says

[upper radish]

Do i buy STEELSERIES Apex 9 Mini

[worldly garden]

i thought this one

[worldly garden]

u shouldnt buy gaming keyboard

[upper radish]

bro i legit do esports

I need a gaming keyboard

If id not need one id not ask

[worldly garden]

is just a gimmick

i play esport with my "normal keyboard" too

[upper radish]

My old keyboard zamn dying rn

More dead than sli

[worldly garden]

sli is 2017 bruh

anyway

yeah u shouldnt buy the apex 9

[upper radish]

It costs 100 dollars

Normally twice the price

And my current keyboard dyung

Dyin*

[worldly garden]

you know how much is should cost

20$

80$ came from their branding and fancy rgb man

[upper radish]

I missed the promo

F

Istg i hate my luck

[worldly garden]

nah u are lucky that u saved some money

where are u based

[upper radish]

Absolutely didnt understand whatchu mean

[granite nymph]

are you gonna help or what

[upper radish]

Did everythin other than that

And i still dont know

[granite nymph]

try finding some peripheral discord servers

[upper radish]

Most of them help as much as this guy did

[granite nymph]

what are you looking for in a good keyboard anyway

[granite nymph]

ur kidding 😭

[upper radish]

I aint

Gemini ai helped more than 5 servwrs

Servers*

[worldly garden]

i did by telling him to not buy that keyboard

[granite nymph]

so @upper radish what are you looking for

[granite nymph]

use deepseek or regular gpt4o

not gemini 😭

[upper radish]

Good gaming keyboard

Gtg rq

[granite nymph]

I guess any redswitch mechanical keyboard will do

[granite nymph]

same im in school rn

[boreal rivet]

Wooting

[worldly garden]

u are not helping him, either way

[upper radish]

45 mins

[worldly garden]

@upper radish

[granite nymph]

trying to figure out what wants. he just says "gaming keybaord"

[worldly garden]

well then i jusst told him

that all of the gaming keyboard is gimmick

[upper radish]

@granite nymph Im back

So bassicly :

-gaming keyboard

• fast reaction time if thats how its called
• mechanical favorably
• good quality

I heard apex keyboards are good

I use an steelseries mouse so ye

Used to their peripherals and them being very good quality

@granite nymph mb for not replyin faster but yeee teachers are annoyin asf

Cant type on the lessons

Infortunate

[worldly garden]

check out what i sent

[teal jetty]

Not too sure if this is the right channel to ask this in so here goes nothing; Are there 24" gaming monitors that have a 1440p panel? I do have a 27" 1440p monitor but when playing FPS/shooters I find that 27" is too big for my liking. Are there any that are good? I've seen the AOC Q24G2A but not sure if that's a decent brand to go with.. feel free to ping 🙂

[upper radish]

120 dolla dolla thats to much

[worldly garden]

u had a budget of 100 for a trash product

but refused another 20 to buy something properly

well, is your call

[rare light]

Some people refuse to be helped, save yourself the headache

[worldly garden]

should have told them that the apex is the best keyboard for 100$ lol

[rare light]

Lol

[worldly garden]

@rare light if we help them they wont listen, if we dont they called us gatekeeper

[rare light]

Better to be called a gatekeeper than to waste your time :p

If only there was something called the internet full of free information on things

[upper radish]

It costs twice the price in my country

1.1k

And the one i asked was 500

[upper radish]

So i am NOT paying twice the price for that keyboard

Im barely wanting to buy that one cuz of the price

So aint a way ill pay double

[flat dock]

What? That's an entirely unrelated keyboard

We were talking about the K2 HE

[upper radish]

The price is like x2.

I aint refusin to be helped

Im js not blind

[charred plank]

@upper radish what are you looking for and what budget

[flat dock]

what specifically are you looking for? is optical/HE important, so you have configurable actuation points? specific layout/size you're looking for? type of switch feel?

[devout heron]

Which out of these would be best, other recommendations around this pricepoint ~$200 is also appreciated (24” 1080p)

[fiery pulsar]

Go with the odyssey G4

It's the best panel out of ur three pics with the best specs among all three of them

[upper radish]

Layout? Couldnt care but proll 60-100%

I js want an actually good keyboard that doesnt break each year

Which is mechanical

And between 60% - 100%

Ive heard razer and steelseries keyboards are good for gaming

[worldly garden]

Buy green switch razers

[upper radish]

Which if you have suggestions

And as im seeing most are outside the budget

Or im lowk js blind

[timber cliff]

is it worth it to spend money on a wooting 80HE

[minor elbow]

Anyone have a video of keyboard knobs? I heard it was "satisfying" to turn it but every keyboard vid is mostly just the keys. I wanna know what they mean by "satisfying"

also there isnt much video of mechanical vs regular keyboards. I can find a handful but its not usually what im looking for. I wanna hear the difference in loudness between them

[bitter oar]

What about qhd

[devout heron]

Also in the running atm

They have a 27” g5 for $180 on amazon

[bitter oar]

Which g5

[proven grove]

i lost my extra cables was for my rm750w gold and im looking for the 8 pin connector - would someone direct me to the right link to buy the right 8 pin connector to use for my 9070xt

[bitter oar]

check a review for it whenever it’s good

that tests color accuracy, pixel response, total input lag, contrast levels, max black level

etc

[bitter oar]

check if your rm750 uses type 4, it should be if i recall correctly type 3, 4 has the same pin layout across 6+2 pin cables (for motherboard psu side connector it’s NOT)
just buy a type 4 pcie power/ vga/ cpu and you should be good
for type 5 the connections are smaller so it won’t fit on the psu side

[proven grove]

oh i just found them

but these are the ones i have currently 2 pcie 6+2

[bitter oar]

psu side 8 to two 6+2 pin? just use one of the ends for the gpu

if you’re missing cables just get any corsair type 3 or type 4 pcie cables

[proven grove]

i think its two 6+2 then one 6+2

[bitter oar]

you can use pigtail 8 pin psu side to two 6+2 , ideally just use one of the sides, you don’t need to utilise both ends of 6+2 it just looks ugly

[proven grove]

so its 3 6+2

[bitter oar]

you have? then use that if you have a gpu that’s 6+2 + 6+2 + 6pin for example then plug the pigtail 6+2 + 6+2 into the 6+2 and 6 and the single 6+2 into 6+2

oh so your gpu is only 6+2?

just plug one end of the 6+2 to the gpu and that’s it, the other end is fine without being plugged in just make sure the 8 pin on the psu side is plugged in

[proven grove]

the one i currently have yes its a 3060ti then ill change it to a 9070xt

[flat dock]

any reliable keyboard is good for gaming imo, you don't necessarily need to look for just gaming keyboards. IMO stuff labeled gaming is just overpriced

Although I admit I don't have any specific recommendations, it's hard to shop for someone else especially if prices are different

Probably you should just buy what you think is good because overthinking is a trap we all fall into

[upper fractal]

Anyone have a suggestion on a webcam for streaming? i have the razor kyro pro ultra but have had nothing but problems with it.. looking at a logitech brio 4k or MX Brio any suggestions would help.. Thanks

[solar frigate]

Epomaker keyboards good?

[glad panther]

does anyone know a quiet and nice looking keyboard for 100 euros or less?

[bitter oar]

some yes some no

[solar frigate]

Which ones are yes

[bitter oar]

i haven’t been paying attention to the market so i can’t say for sure, it has changed since q1 2024

[solar frigate]

Ah yeah, more than a year has passed haha, do you think I should just look at some trusted reviews?

Rtings?

[bitter oar]

check if the sound suits you (good) modern switches are factory lubed and smooth, looks for keyboards with pbt material or other durable materials but those are pricey, rtings doesn’t have all keyboards available on the market

if you like gaskets or not, foam, aluminum casing?

it’s all up to you

[solar frigate]

I have not yet had another keyboard, I have listened to some like audio things, but haven’t actually had the chance to properly listen. Would be great if someone made a website where you could like pick and choose different things to hear what they sound like lol

[bitter oar]

yeah, would take a decent amount of time to scientifically test most relevant keyboards

you’d need a machine that presses keys the same

[solar frigate]

Yeah

[bitter oar]

sound tests give you an idea, your mileage may vary, because everyone presses keys differently (hard) or at angle

[solar frigate]

Yeah, for sure. Very sad there’s no like good computer stores near me

[bitter oar]

for a mid range board, most people like aluminum look for that, unless you want to transport your kb then aluminum is not for that 😂 ‘cause ya know heavy

[solar frigate]

HAAHAHA yeah deffo, but yeah I’m not trying to transport it no

[bitter oar]

if you want custom actuation points or other gimmicky features HE is an option

(hall effect)

but that’s more expensive relative to mechanical, also has more points of failure and can have more qc issues with the hall sensors

and mechanical on average if you’re looking for sound is better

what fits most people

[solar frigate]

Mhm mhm

[bitter oar]

anyways, it’s up to you. just search for whatever i’ve said til now, pick boards listen to sound tests ideally from the same channel if it provides and pick one, look for the more recent models as competition is evolving

[solar frigate]

Cool, thanks :)

[royal escarp]

Anyone got a recommendation for a decent mic? There is technically no budget limit on my end, but i would still like it to be reasonably low. I have considered Audio-Technica AT2020USB-XP for 200€.

[flat dock]

Rtings does but they don't review much outside of gaming and office

[bitter oar]

i don’t think rtings uses a machine that has a finger (made out of gelatine for example) and use that for sound testing

iirc they use it for response

sound tests are hand typed on, which is as we know not so accurate

even if the same person types on the kb

[flat dock]

Oh you meant for sound

I feel like that would be a negligible effect

[bitter oar]

no, just press keys hardly vs lightly your keyboard will make a different pitch

of noise

everyone types differently hard, at a different angle, even thickness of your finger may affect sound

finger of yours acts as a dampener

[flat dock]

but if you had a machine, only youd have the machine

Unless you take a book out of the audio world and sell a calibrated version for other people to test the exact same

definitely less impactful than other stuff like microphone or keycaps or switches

[bitter oar]

it gives a more accurate reference than hand typing, that’s also why i mentioned ideally watch sound tests from the same channel when you compare keyboards as the mic, surroundings, affect the sound which may turn to the viewer as different

the machine (if properly set) would always press the keyboard the same unlike humans

[flat dock]

I think we:re a long ways away from the technology to make a machine that's an accurate reference

Can you imagine how complicated that would ne

then imagine trying to make it have the same force effects as a human

[bitter oar]

one guy may press keys at this many newtons and other may press at less, which makes different pitch of sound, not just loudness

[flat dock]

I guess rtings has that issue just because of them not being a single person that does every test

[bitter oar]

i’m saying even that is an issue

that guy may drink a cup of coffee while comparing keyboards and now he’s suddently typing harder

a good machine that presses keys would not do that

[flat dock]

yeah that is not worth worrying about

you have to maintain a machine though

its not gonna type exactly the same every time either

[bitter oar]

if you’re a good reviewer that’s the cost you have to go through, if you want to be less scientific joe (less accurate) then hand typing

[flat dock]

I just don't even think its that plausible

[bitter oar]

the less accurate testing you do the worse of an review you’re making potentially

[flat dock]

I think you're just being picky :p

[bitter oar]

keyboards are not worth that much time and cost to make an actual machine that types on a keyboard

there are much better ways to make sound testing than hand typing

hand typing is just easy

i’m not being picky it’s literally that. hand typing is easy, “free”, only what it costs is time and to setup a mic

most “reviews” don’t even make sound tests in the same enviroment

it is absolutely possible to eliminate that, so… which means their review is less accurate therefore worse.

i’m not asking for absolute perfection, that’s not possible. i’m asking for more perfection. and hand typing, in different enviroments is just not accurate.

[flat dock]

I agree with different environments being bad but for the same person, same place, same hardware, I don't think it would even be noticeable

[bitter oar]

place a keyboard on a table instead of a desk mat and you’ll immediately notice a difference

or put two fingers, a finger, a nail and press on one keycap even that makes a difference

very noticeable, not “even”

that’s what’s called proper testing, a review, looking at a keyboard and saying how awesome it is… that’s an overview

and less accuracy gives more space for accidental bias, favor for one keyboard over another despite them possibly being the same “quality” or literally same board

[flat dock]

but that's the nature of typing, you actually would want to simulate that because that's what you truly would be doing if you had the keyboard

[bitter oar]

yes which you can create with a machine

typing on a keyboard with your hands isn’t required in order to test the sound, it’s just cheaper

you can for sure make a machine that presses all keys at the same time

but again it’s expensive

[flat dock]

using the actual thing a machine simulates is always more accurate than the machine

that's just the definition of accuratd

[bitter oar]

just like most people don’t take a psu for instance seriously

testing

[flat dock]

if you want to say consistent, maybe that's the word you mean

[bitter oar]

yes, consistency = accuracy in this context

if you don’t press keys consistently hard they make different pitch (frequency) of sound which the mic picks up as a different frequency

which is inaccurate

[flat dock]

I don't think that's what accurate means

[bitter oar]

google it

[flat dock]

https://www.ossila.com/cdn/shop/files/Syringe_Pump_Accuracy_and_Precision_Potentiostat_Specifications.svg

God its an svg

https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/precision_accuracy.png

That's where my head is

[bitter oar]

in this context it is both precision and accuracy because you want to be hitting a key at the same spot of a keycap with the same amount of pressure, precision refers when comparing keyboards in this context to another keyboard for example

you want to be hitting the center of a keycap

[flat dock]

I was overloading accuracy in this context to mean being true to a person typing naturally

not anything to do with position at all

[bitter oar]

you can also swap this for keyboard accuracy (how many people like the keyboard) and keyboard precision (subjectivity)

but we don’t have reference what people like

so

[flat dock]

What

I don't think the words accuracy and precision apply to that one

[bitter oar]

to the one you shown it does, you could swap accuracy for average subjective liking and precision for subjectivity based off a personal taste

[flat dock]

Yeah I don't see it

The analogy has lost all form

[bitter oar]

low accuracy, high precision from that illustration you’ve shown would be reference is not accurate and compared keyboards are aligning with that flawed reference (subjective, precision)

[bitter oar]

yes, anyways, humans are not the best at testing (typing on keyboards)

when making sound tests

[flat dock]

idk

[bitter oar]

you can ofc still use sound tests that were hand typed, just take them with a grain of salt that their mic may not be the best, enviroment and the typist

it’s the mostly best we have as of now

basicly all technology started off inaccurate and subjective (a lot of things are still)

eyed out and such

[wooden ember]

tbh, short of mechanical testing, "feel" testing is total bs. It's about as good as wine tasting is, which is not good.

I can barely feel differences between various linear switches I own, other than sound

[flat dock]

idk about linear switches

the tactile world has much more variation

stuff feels more than just smooth vs scratchy or solid vs mushy

there is absolutely feel differences though

that feeling isn't the problem, the problem is nobody has the same words

or opinions

[bitter oar]

scratchiness can indeed be tested using machines

resistances of the switch

[wooden ember]

yes that I know

i meant for those people who treat switches like wine

wine tasting is bs and I think so are most non-machine tested opinions on switches

[bitter oar]

when people say vint blacks and used in the same sentence i usually lose my braincells

because some people actually think vint blacks are better than anything currently on the market

but everyone’s experience varies someone actually may prefer vint blacks unbiased the most i’m not saying that they don’t but… saying they’re better than any switch for most people is dumb

[worldly garden]

hello kventinky

and yes vb is better than anything on the market

[bitter oar]

i’ll just block you again ig

[worldly garden]

when will u prove vb is bad

lol

[bitter oar]

why are you still using fallacy or you didn’t sleep well? when did i say they’re bad

or just rage baiting

[worldly garden]

?

[bitter oar]

why don’t you scientifically prove me they’re good? smoothness on a graph when the key is pressed*

[worldly garden]

we always want u in kbd kvet

dm em if u want the invite

[bitter oar]

you know it has been done to other switches too, just show me a graph where it has been done to vints

[bitter oar]

i don’t want to be in the server for multiple reasons

[worldly garden]

they unbanned you

biooc is there asw

[bitter oar]

i said 3 or 4 times now that i don’t want to be there

[worldly garden]

well implying that wasnt "better than anything else in market"

they wont be used for 40 years

[bitter oar]

it isn’t until proven otherwise, and i doubt tech for switches hasn’t improved for that many years

just show me scientific testing

[worldly garden]

then find me a switch that better than vb, then ?

[bitter oar]

it’s subjective, i’d say even hmx is better, or with comparable specifications for spring, stem size?

[worldly garden]

hmx

lol

iirc u bought a batch of mx blacks and hate on them

or that was biooc

[bitter oar]

please show me a graph where vint black is smoother than hmx

this conversation is 100% pointless

you’re arguing subjectively, not objectively

[worldly garden]

how about u show me a graph where hmx is smoother/better than vb

[bitter oar]

there’s none that’s literally my argument, people have reported including someone here that you need “break-in” switches in order for them to be good (vint blacks)

same people said vint blacks are scratchy

and you “need to” buy them used

[worldly garden]

thats either way pretool or wyse vb's

[bitter oar]

how do you know the switches have been used enough to break in enough

[worldly garden]

authenthic vb's isnt that scratchy to the point that annoys people

[bitter oar]

aight, how do you know you’re not getting some sort of counterfeits, or “bad” i’ve heard these have been issue too.

define a perfect switch, if the vint is best, then it shouldn’t inherit issues that mid range switches don’t have

[worldly garden]

apperance mostly https://www.keebtalk.com/t/how-to-distinguish-vintage-blacks-from-retooled/8508

[bitter oar]

such as… solder residue that can pop a hotswap socket which limits versatility

[bitter oar]

yes, for a typical consumer or a more knowledgable guy is it worth it going throigh this all to get the switches? and you don’t even know if they’re scientifically the “best”

there have been switches tested by machines and how’s their consistency of surface (smoothness)

i haven’t seen a single vint black properly tested

you can’t call them the best really then.

[worldly garden]

u still cant tell me switches that are better than vb's

[bitter oar]

psu tierlists used to be the same too, psus rated based on branding, noise, cable sets and such, if it can just power stuff (if the pc works and doesn’t shutdown with higher end hardware)

[bitter oar]

hmx

or any switch that has been tested and decent unlike vint blacks that haven’t been tested

[worldly garden]

should have came to kbd

there are vint geeks

and we will discuss how they are better than ur "hmx" bs

😂

[bitter oar]

none of them will give me scientific chart for vints

if yes then ask them for me, i will not join that place

again

[worldly garden]

did u ever joined yet lol

[bitter oar]

i got banned for stuff i did not do

[worldly garden]

u got unbanned

[bitter oar]

that’s one of the reasons

[worldly garden]

im even the one who sort ur stuff out

[bitter oar]

i don’t care i got wrongly accused, that’s enough for me to not join again

[worldly garden]

lol

[bitter oar]

i’ll admit wrong if you provide me the chart or any really

that measures better than other switches

on the market

[worldly garden]

right

how about u bought like 30 proper vb

stock

then u compare it to hmx

[bitter oar]

i’ll prove absolutely nothing

until you don’t provide any sort of scientific testing like rtings or other similar reviews for example you can’t say it’s the best for sure.

and if you believe vint blacks are still the best even after four decades without testing man… i don’t have words really.

[worldly garden]

if is not good why do the majority still use it

[bitter oar]

that’s goal shifting

again stop using fallacies and answer me directly

[worldly garden]

believe me im doing you a favor

[bitter oar]

aight blocked, this is just more time wasting, if you find it funny well have nice day

[worldly garden]

you are the one having core memory from winning an argument over discord

@bitter oar is not only me you see

[bitter oar]

you see that unevenness with mx blacks? that’s what you perceive as scratchy, i’m not saying their method is the best but it is better than what you have.

which is hand typing

[worldly garden]

this is not the mx black we are talking about lol

this is invalid

[bitter oar]

you’re goal post shifting again, you’ve said vint blacks are the best this is an example

you’re really just ragebaiting as usual

[worldly garden]

??

mx blacks is not vintage black

do some research

[bitter oar]

and with the existing issues with blacks have such as you having to buy them via more obscure ways, and solder on the pins they’re already not the “best”

[bitter oar]

it is an example, please this ragebaiting will not work on me

if you want i can call the mod because trolling is not allowed

[worldly garden]

im not trolling ?

and ur example is invalid

@still quarry check these out

[bitter oar]

you don’t have any proof of vint blacks being smoother other than some subjective opinions

that is the example

[still quarry]

hurro

[bitter oar]

vint blacks haven’t been tested therefore not cannot be proven the best

[wooden ember]

man why is this a big thing right now?

who cares

[worldly garden]

he compared overlubed switches to something which are stock smooth

[bitter oar]

he made claims and stands behind them

it’s hes who’s caring and being totally wrong and biased

[still quarry]

a selling point of cherry switches is that they're not smooth lol

ot sounds good

[bitter oar]

i’m not saying everything he is saying is wrong but in this particular instance saying vint blacks are the best is absolutely wrong without scientific testing or any really, it’s best in his taste for most people it’s a mediocre switch at best

with it’s issues

[wooden ember]

it's really not that serious

[bitter oar]

he is standing behind is point, this is internet

[worldly garden]

did u meet this guy before lol

[bitter oar]

he is misleading people

[worldly garden]

you was the one misleading with ur aliexpress promotion BS

[bitter oar]

adhominems now nice

[wooden ember]

To you he may be wrong, but hes certainly far from misleading anyone

[bitter oar]

this is irrelevant are we goal post shifting again?

[wooden ember]

He has the right to feel the way he wants about a certain switch, it's a switch and it's called preferences

[worldly garden]

u are feeling triggered ?

[wooden ember]

I've been watching the convo, I don't feel he goal post switched at all

[bitter oar]

giving wrong advice is indeed misleading, i’m not saying he’s spreading disinformation or intentionally misleading

but he is misleading people interested in buying keyboards

[wooden ember]

It really doesn't matter.

It's preference

[bitter oar]

yes i just don’t want you to spread your bias towards vint blacks, keep it to yourself

it’s your opinion, if you like them i don’t care

[wooden ember]

I think Nixies are my favorite switch which means I think they are the best and they are something I would recommend to everyone. If you disagree, am I misleading people?

[worldly garden]

alright mr aliexpress

[bitter oar]

he said the best, and without saying the word my opinion or preference

[wooden ember]

#peripherals message

[bitter oar]

please read the whole conversation

[wooden ember]

I did.

[bitter oar]

you didn’t

[worldly garden]

yessirr

[wooden ember]

I definitely did.

[bitter oar]

do you know what “best” means in this context were talking about what fits most people

scientifically

[bitter oar]

there’s not a single chart for the switch being scratchy or smooth

[worldly garden]

what do u think of ur bauer

[bitter oar]

and with it’s already existing issues it is not the best anyways.

[wooden ember]

"desirable type or quality"

[worldly garden]

i suggest you dont get into this guy

[bitter oar]

most excellent

[wooden ember]

It's fine. Too high pitched for me, I need to get their foam in there

[worldly garden]

intersting

clacky plastic board

[wooden ember]

I just ordered a Macross65 with a PC and FR4 plate

[still quarry]

good design

[wooden ember]

and I have an unbuilt Glitter65 waiting for Nixies and TX AP stabs

[still quarry]

lotta 65s

[worldly garden]

better than keycult zero

[still quarry]

for sure

[wooden ember]

65 is my favorite and therefore the best, so I shall mislead people into buying them

[wooden ember]

I like the Zero except it's 60%

I only have 2 60%'s, a Minerva LX and a Salvation

[still quarry]

they have a cork option for the weight 😂

like what the actual fuxk

[bitter oar]

he said best for vints without plural such as one of the best, or are, just best. which means he perceived vint blacks as the best switch, “vb is better than anything on the market”

[wooden ember]

Yeah, pretty interesting idea. I wouldn't buy that, I would be too worried it would absorb moisture over time and fall apart

[wooden ember]

Yes, that's an opinion, have you heard of those before?

[still quarry]

like if it was an internal weight maybe

but it's the fucking backplate

[worldly garden]

i hate the fact that they made a once "premium,finest" keyboard become smth consumer should get

[wooden ember]

idk if I would call cork a weight

might actually make it float in the air

[bitter oar]

in my context i typed beforehand it’s not, i already mentioned subjectivity

you absolutely didn’t read the conversation

or misunderstood

[still quarry]

unless someone says it's objectively the best take it as an opinion lol

[wooden ember]

Meh, I think it's fine. I always wanted a no2/65 and it's hella hard to get... but then they made it available but with a polycarb top only with no inset threads, so you fuck the polycarb once you screw into it raw

[worldly garden]

is easy to get

$$$ isnt

😂

[wooden ember]

facts

[bitter oar]

most people don’t understand that though, just use the word subjective

[wooden ember]

I just spent 4k on my wife's transmission so all my keyboard money is gone lol

[bitter oar]

take objectivity out of window

in the context we have been arguing he knew i didn’t mean opinions but scientific related (objective) testing

[wooden ember]

Actually I spent 6k, parts and labor

[still quarry]

damn

[worldly garden]

transmission like car trans ?

[wooden ember]

durango's are expensive lmao

[worldly garden]

bruh

[wooden ember]

yeah

I wouldn't have fixed it if we didn't owe money on it still

[worldly garden]

buy a bimmer, trans wont fail

but everything else will

[wooden ember]

false

bimmer shares the same transmissions as dodge

different casings, same internals

[worldly garden]

oh it did ?

damn i didint know

[wooden ember]

yep

8-speeds are shared across 6 different brands

8HP70RE trans is shared in several bimmers, range rovers, some others and in the Dodge R/T and SRT lines

ZF70RE I think is the outside-dodge model

[bitter oar]

@wooden ember i don’t like reserving to adhominems but you don’t know what his friends were saying on the kbd server

[wooden ember]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission#Applications

[worldly garden]

he isnt on kbd wdym

[still quarry]

wasn't there the saying "BMWs are great for 20k" or something

[worldly garden]

i can buy an e36 for 3k rn

[bitter oar]

i meant you, your friends what were saying and you have very similar opinions to theirs, and using wrong opinions as factual

[still quarry]

that's not what I mean by 20k

[wooden ember]

kbdfans?

[worldly garden]

17k go into fix their problem

[wooden ember]

I think I am in there

[worldly garden]

nah is like our

server

[still quarry]

nah I mean it'll only ast 20k miles then the funny light will never be off

[worldly garden]

for real

[bitter oar]

switches can be also tested scientifically and it isn’t entirely subjective

[still quarry]

yes but who's to say some metrics are objectively good

like smoothness

[worldly garden]

one of my friend just bought this

[wooden ember]

oic

[worldly garden]

the oil change is wild

[bitter oar]

smoothness is a good instance, most people don’t want that scrathy feel, and when people say X switch is smooth and that’s why it’s good you can prove them wrong

[worldly garden]

kvet why are u still on that

[wooden ember]

nice

not a bimmer fan myself

but they have cool applications

[bitter oar]

because you’re entirely ignoring that part

[wooden ember]

friend of my builds race motors on the n55 platform

big ass turbos and shit

[bitter oar]

you’re 100% relaying on subjectivity, not scientific proof when it comes to switches

[still quarry]

isn't the n55 the one that has the hot v8

or am I thinking of a lower number

[worldly garden]

scientific proofs in a game of preferences

[bitter oar]

you can indeed measure switch sound, smoothness

[worldly garden]

u are funny kvet

[wooden ember]

not sure tbh

[still quarry]

bro should go be into iems instead

[wooden ember]

i know they don't need much to handle big hp gains

[worldly garden]

i thought he knew smth

or is that biooc

[wooden ember]

they sleeve, deck, and port the heads, valvetrain upgrade, forged cranks and then booost

inline 6's are monsters for power

[bitter oar]

people claim vint are smooth all the time and that it’s “one of the reasons” they buy them
if you want to make difference contact one of the reviews if you can’t send them a sample of switches to make difference

[worldly garden]

indeed man

[wooden ember]

I love me some hellcat engines but I think the SixPack engine is gonna be sick too

[bitter oar]

i did not focus on iems so no

that much

[worldly garden]

muscle american cars is always epic

[wooden ember]

I love them

always have

pretty easy to work on as well, except for the transmissions

pain the the arse to remove, 13 hours to swap

[bitter oar]

anyways, switches are not just about preference, you can make pretty much anything objective subjective, even psu testing oh damn this psu runs at 11.9V instead of 12V on the main rail, i think thr 11.9V is a bit of an undervolt and that means better because it’s my opinion, not factually correct

from what i’ve heard why people buy vint blacks only reasonable thing is that it’s sort of a tradition to them

everything else was subjective

and ignoring the cons

or they have been talked to buy them, unless they were actually cheap yeah “good budget switch” if cheap enough ig

[worldly garden]

i always wanted to get my hand on those old school stuff

eg a 350 ss

[wooden ember]

While I am not on good terms with my old man anymore, I will say that the coolest thing he ever had was a '68 Dodge Dart that ran 11s in the 1/4 mile

383 V8 (6.4L)

[still quarry]

what did the 383 mean again

[wooden ember]

was a swapped motor

383 was cubic inches

[still quarry]

ohh

when I get out of college I'm prolly going to finally save up some big bucks for a cool project car

[wooden ember]

the 426 is the modern Hellephant engine

[still quarry]

w engine

[wooden ember]

6.2L 426cu, 1K HP

[worldly garden]

supercharger

[hollow elm]

Somebody wish me luck Printing my laptop for the legion go. I got it as a replacement for my laptop but TBH I use it more for productivity than gaming. I will be using a mouse at basically all times so no track pad. I did want to add a mouse compartment but I prefer larger mice so wouldnt really work unless I got a logitech pop or a magic mouse styled one.

[worldly garden]

so u are making a case for your laptop

[hollow elm]

Legion go is like a steam deck or a windows based tablet. Its more like a portable docking station.

So It has a mechanical keyboard ( the logitech G515 as its only 20 mm thick. And a 1080p screen the color accuracy isn't great on the monitor but it is very easy to read text on and was really cheap. Cheap enough for a proof of concept.

[pseudo bolt]

35 years young today

[upper radish]

I was gonna wait for a promo of an razer or steelseries as ive used both of their peripherals before

[wispy nebula]

Man I haven't seen one of those in eons. Last time I did I was like 3 or 4

[subtle cedar]

is eclipse HG10 good

[daring saddle]

Fun fact: this monitor still works somehow.

No black spots/dead pixels

I still replaced it tho since I don’t trust the back to not fall off. Replaced it with a 27” MSI 1440P 180 Hz monitor.

[haughty sigil]

Nice find

[daring saddle]

I bought an Ornata Chroma for $14 a while back.

I just typed this message with it actually.

[coral ferry]

No reciever...might be worthless

[haughty sigil]

Bet you could probably rig one up pretty quickly with a few spare parts and some breadboard

[daring saddle]

If it supports their unifying reciever (orange star-like symbol) you can just buy one of those and pair it. I've done that before.

[crisp patrol]

chrysler

[coral ferry]

You get an E for Effort

[true nimbus]

anyone have good ultrawide monitors for under 250$

some spectres look alr but I feel like there are better options out there

[true nimbus]

just buy one that you can pair it to or use a bluetooth setting maybe. I got a logitech mouse like that once and the support team I talked to just sent me a new one

[coral ferry]

I have plenty of mice...but thanks

[true nimbus]

I was talking about your might be worthless comment but okay, was just saying that if that mice was bought the reciever probably is not an issue

[coral ferry]

im not sure how paying for it relates that strictly to if it needs a reciever to function

[worldly garden]

sick

[worldly garden]

bro still said that after he said that gaming is just a label term

[cloud forum]

is the logitech g920 worth it still if im on a budget? the only other wheel ive used was the thrustmaster tmx

[bitter oar]

i’m not into wheels so sorry

[wooden ember]

Man, after a year of frequent use... the dielectric grease in my daily keeb finally evaporated enough away that the spacebar started ticking. Tore it all apart and applied xht-bdz this time, sounds so much better. Never using dielectric grease again.

[worldly garden]

xht was the right way

did u blance the wires ?

[wooden ember]

I never do

No need if you lube properly

[worldly garden]

u should do it

[wooden ember]

nah

[worldly garden]

what stabs u are using

staebies ?

[wooden ember]

tx ap

they have the tpu inserts

[worldly garden]

tx ap is getting dated these days

[wooden ember]

I don't need to replace something that works well

I have a method that is flawless with bdz to never tick or rattle

no need to holee or any of those other tricks

[worldly garden]

most people only lube + balance

[wooden ember]

I just put lube in these spots and insert the wires and they are perfect

[worldly garden]

maybe it works lol

[wooden ember]

No maybe, it definitely works. I just did 4 keebs this week this way all with xht-bdz and tx ap stabs and they don't tick or rattle

[worldly garden]

sometimes your odds is just good

when i first tune my neo stabs it ticks after 2 hours

[wooden ember]

Try my method

[worldly garden]

it is fine right now

when they are dated i will

[wooden ember]

I mean on your next build

it's very reliable

no mushy feeling either

you need a syringe for this

[worldly garden]

if u have any other stabs that use this mods too then i could verify

because i will not use tx ap in my next buuild

[wooden ember]

I haven't tried this on other stabs, I prefer the tpu inserts on tx ap

[vocal bluff]

is this a good place to ask for reccomendations or is that a different channel?

[jagged jungle]

i mean if it has to do with peripherals

go for it

[vocal bluff]

schweet, i just want to know if anyone has any recs for a lilac/lavendar wireless gaming mouse

[jagged jungle]

i mean i dont know of a ton, but i use a purple g305 as my laptop mouse

it is a gaming mouse

[vocal bluff]

ill have to check it out, ive got the g733 headset

[jagged jungle]

it takes a double A but it lasts forever

ive only ever used it as a laptop mouse, so not my daily driver, but it still has the og battery from like 2 years ago

it lasts forever

[wooden ember]

https://www.colorware.com/products/logitech-g502-x-plus-mouse?design=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

[vocal bluff]

thats a bit pricey but i like it, ill check it out!

[wooden ember]

its a configurator, so you can make it almost however you want

[potent raft]

Wouldn't it be safe to blur the plate?

[upper radish]

What mousepad should i change to as my old one is legit getting bumps and scratches

[fluid parrot]

When was the last time you cleaned it?

[upper radish]

week ago

[upper radish]

ya all is steelseries rival 3 wireless a good mouse

[fluid parrot]

how do you clean it

[upper radish]

guess

[charred plank]

No

[upper radish]

whats the weaknesses of it?

ik weight but i actually hate light weighted mouses

they slide to much for me

@charred plank or should i js do my research on it?

[charred plank]

It feels like trash, is heavy, and just isn't good

[upper radish]

idk why it feels so good for me then

[upper radish]

yo do you know stuff about keyboards as well cuz im searchin for a new one as my current one dying

[boreal rivet]

buy a realforce

[worldly garden]

anything

[worldly garden]

if u want something heavy take a look at razer basilisks

[charred plank]

Because you haven't experienced non mainstream mice more than likely

[flat dock]

what kind of keyboard are you looking for? what preferences

also cost budget

[heady compass]

don't you love it when

and then

why is my luck with keycaps this bad

these ones are loose and brittle, the previous ones were brittle and wore out quickly

[flat dock]

Woah where did you get these, that's terrible

[heady compass]

first set from keychron 2nd from a random brand

because i do not have the money to be buying 60 dollar keycap sets

[heady compass]

i'm trying to at least get replacement from the company but if that fails i'm straight up buying a new keyboard

[boreal rivet]

Should’ve bought a realforce

[heady compass]

they don't have a 75% with a volume knob so i'm not interested

i found an ajazz ak820 for 50 bucks that's basically just a keychron v1 (my current keyboard)

[boreal rivet]

Yes you should buy that

Go ahead is good 👍

[upper radish]

mb for replying so late - i was shopping stuff
So bassicly budget is 70 usd'ish, at max 100 usd but ill wait for the keyboard to be on sale
preferably a mechanical
gaming purposes

60% or 80%

[wooden ember]

How many sets have you bought because of keycap failures?

[heady compass]

1 came with the keyboard and 1 had to be bought

keychron keycaps are notoriously dog shit apparently

everyone in their server says they suck

mine became shiny after just a month of use

and then after 2 years they started shattering

i've only had these for a couple months

[heady compass]

doubleshot pbt btw

[wooden ember]

I was gonna say, if you've already spent money on a handful of sets, you could have gotten a good set of GMK caps from somewhere

Or a decent pbt set

[heady compass]

yeah'

i wish more companies would make just plain wob keycaps

no japanese characters or nothin just regular keycaps

[wooden ember]

https://a.co/d/dBkWoIo

[heady compass]

cheers

110 dollars nevermind holy

yeah no i'm buying a new keyboard 💀

[flat dock]

gmk keycaps moment

[heady compass]

i can get a whole entire HE board for that much

[flat dock]

Surely you could find just a normal set of double shot PBT keycaps from a. normal manufacturer and they'd be fine

[heady compass]

yeah i did and it's ass

keychron makes fairly good products and their keycaps suck ass too

[wooden ember]

$110 is cheap for a fill 100% worth of GMK caps

[heady compass]

110 dollars is not cheap when every month my spending budget is 50 bucks

and i have 3 fish tanks to upkeep

[wooden ember]

And if you're gonna buy a new keyboard when all you need is caps, you're spending more money over time whenever you need to buy replacement cheap sets

You buy cheap, you get cheap quality

[flat dock]

its cheap for gmk keycaps but gmk keycaps are not cheap

[heady compass]

this keyboard's getting old anyways

[wooden ember]

So?

[heady compass]

so i want a new one and for 110 i can get an entire new one

[wooden ember]

If caps are the issue, save the money and get good quality caps

[heady compass]

and a better one at that

either the ak820 or some hall effect board

for now i put in the old i key from my previous keycaps

it looks like shit but it works for now

[wooden ember]

I don't get the mindset you have though tbh. Your board works. Why replace the whole board for just caps? Just save and get good caps.

[heady compass]

it's not saving money if the keycaps cost as much as a better keyboard

[wooden ember]

Yes it is

Because then you don't have to buy whole new caps when one breaks because the GMK one's wont break...

[heady compass]

yeah but like i said, whole new and better keyboard > same old keyboard and new keycaps if they're both the same price

half the switches on this one need replacing anyways

[wooden ember]

Up to you, but it sounds more of an impulse than necessity. Your core issue was the quality of the caps from the bit that I read. Every keyboard that is mass produced is basically the same and can always be improved with some minor modifications for sound and feel. And if you buy yourself a nice set of quality caps, you can just move them over to another keyboard whenever you want to replace them, instead of spending more and more money over time that adds up to more than what the quality caps are worth. That's the part I am trying to convince you on which would effectively save you money over time. Then you can use them on a much nicer custom board should you ever wish to go that route.

[wooden ember]

what's the replacement board you're looking at anyway?

[flat dock]

I don't think it sounds like they're buying a new keyboard purely because of keycaps

like there could be other improvements

[wooden ember]

Maybe, but the issue I saw first was the keycap quality

[heady compass]

partially waiting for someone to release a 75% hall effect keyboard that doesn't suck

[wooden ember]

good luck, they all suck imho

the sound of them is awful

[heady compass]

but if that doesn't happen before another key breaks then i'll go with the nuphy halo 65 he

[heady compass]

it's not like my v1 sounds much better and they're still moddable

just a little less so

the stabilizers on this thing are abysmal and the lube wore out a year ago

[wooden ember]

looks like a decent choice at least

hope the plate mount stabs are worth their salt

[heady compass]

bc as much as i dislike the 65% form factor it's one of the better HE boards out there and cheapest

even with 30 dollar shipping costs for a keyboard that costs 100

[wooden ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj8M4vrjyiU

Shockingly sounds good

[heady compass]

there's also the keychron k2 he which is a 75%, a layout i prefer a lot more but there will be a keycap issue down the line and the board is 175 usd

[heady compass]

yeah it's pretty solid

[wooden ember]

Plastic keebs have come a long way since the hobby blew up temporarily

[heady compass]

the nuphy one is half aluminum

• i really like the wood on the k2 he

it's so pretty

and i can buy it in installments if push really does come to shove

but yeah it's way over budget for me right now

maybe around summer

[wooden ember]

I'm gonna be building a glitter65 today whenever the stabs I ordered finally get delivered

i'll post pics when it's done

[heady compass]

huge

yeah so i had a chat with my mom cause she's the only one in the house making money rn and i have a roughly 200 dollar budget rn that has to be spread out to as many installments as humanly possible for keyboard stuff in 1 specific storefront

i'll pay her back and cover the rest of the cost when i'll get a job this summer

[wooden ember]

#1 rule, if you're tight on money, do no spend any of it on non-essentials.

[heady compass]

well we're not that tight on money, like i said i have a 50 dollar monthly budget for whatever i want

in exchange for me getting this keyboard i gotta clean the hallway and kitchen/livingroom every other day

tbh i'm surprised it's taken this long for her to put me to work

[sullen sorrel]

Views on this

Chilkey ND 75

75% Aluminium barebone keyboard
Tri mode hotswap pcb, 1.6mm non flex cut, polycarbonate plate, all 3 mounting style accessories included.

Barebone + Alu plate

Additional items :

Mizu cherry PBT clone keycaps

Akko V3 Matcha Green Pro switches x 80

[sullen sorrel]

For 92usd

1 month used

[wooden ember]

Build so far

[sullen sorrel]

Cool

Also views in nuPhy halo 65?

[worldly garden]

ok man i did expect a typing test

[wooden ember]

I don't have anything to hold my phone lol

All I can say is that it's clacky. Has lubed MX Clear switches

Friggen board is a trampoline, every switch has a dedicated flex cut on the PCB

Best I can do

[idle sinew]

I know the Ark has its issues, but ironically, for my uses it'd be perfect.

[normal helm]

can someone help me pick key switches pls i have no idea what im doing

[boreal rivet]

Topre

[flat dock]

some starter questions:

• do you know if you want tactile, linear, or clicky?
• how much weight would you want? have you ever had any other mechanical switches before to use as a reference?
• what kind of sound, or what keyboard will you put them in (if you already are looking at something)

[worldly garden]

flexcut 😭

[wooden ember]

Not having an actual plate makes it crazy soft. Not sure I like it. My Link65 has a slip PCB and it feels great for me, used foams to stiffin it up a bit and it's just right for me. Ut I do like no flex cuts (or just two, one between top num row and alphas, and one between alphas and spacebar).

[normal helm]

Can i dm you?

[flat dock]

Probably not, just send here

[worldly garden]

u could make a custom plate with your desire flex cut points

personally i like stiff typing experience

[sacred bluff]

Thought I'd give this a try because my corgi mouse pad is getting old, but the carpio thing causes my fingers to go numb so it's back to the corgi

[dense sleet]

https://azerty.nl/product/msi-mag-341cqpde-oled-monitor/7527404

should i pull the plug on this?

[sacred bluff]

you want to kill this monitor?

[dense sleet]

it looks like a decent deal but i'm not familiar with 3440 by 1440 as a resolution. it feels like over 34 inches it would make everything blurry.

[sacred bluff]

I've got a 34in ultrawide with the same resolution and it looks great to me

got a gigabyte m34wq but I'm coming from 1080 so there's that

I've got a coworker that swears by oled

[idle sinew]

It's basically a 27 inch 1440p monitor that had some extra added horizontally

[heady compass]

ok yeah final time i'm asking this

k2 HE from keychron OR 200 dollars of upgrades for my v1 and 6 hours of pain because the hotswap sockets are so tight half the switches break when pulling them out

[worldly garden]

wooting

[heady compass]

not available in the store i have 200 bucks of credit in

and i need a new keyboard

[worldly garden]

which store may i ask

[heady compass]

allegro

(mainly) polish online marketplace

it's like amazon but without ai bots spamming products onto it

[worldly garden]

hmm

do u only want he

[heady compass]

i mean the HE is a good perk esp since it's available at that price point

but i'm not against ditching it to wait another year or 2 and instead build a good 75% from scratch

not particularly interested in 60s and 65s, not a fan of those layouts

[worldly garden]

u should buy a q1

they are 1k2 in ur currency

[heady compass]

that's over my budget

my budget is 800 pln

k2 he is right at that price point

[worldly garden]

i think this is nice if u can save 200 more

[heady compass]

i'm buying it in installments so can't exactly save

[worldly garden]

ahh

[heady compass]

yeah

i'll pay it off in a couple months

but rn my keyboard is falling apart

switches failing, keycaps shattering

nearly 4 years of daily 10+ hour use is getting to it

there's a lemokey p1 he for 899

[worldly garden]

never heard of that brand

how about this

[heady compass]

they're just keychron under a different name

it's basically a more gamery q1 max

but for half the price

at least the regular p1 is

[worldly garden]

?

[heady compass]

yeah

lemokey is literally just a sub brand of keychron

i have no clue why

maybe to hide the fact that they're selling a direct competitor to the q1 for half the price

[worldly garden]

rainy75

cehcek those out

[heady compass]

both cnc aluminum with wireless functionality

[heady compass]

only 1 available and it's in pink

[worldly garden]

whats wrong with pink

very gaming color

[heady compass]

i like pink but it does not fit my setup much

all my hardware and peripherals are black and white

the rgb is pink but that's just because none of my components are wrgb

[worldly garden]

i wont trust keychron switches tho

[heady compass]

you certainly shouldn't trust their keycaps they are awful

[worldly garden]

but yeah gatreon is more "trustworthy"

[heady compass]

i have aftermarket keycaps and they suck too but the keychron ones are pretty bad

doubleshot pbt but they became shiny after just a month of use

and started falling apart after 2 years

keychron keycaps are not very good

for 40 bucks i'd expect more from them

[worldly garden]

i can try to find u vendors focused on custom keyboard parts

but since u said u have 200 bucks in that website as a credit thats the only place im looking T

[heady compass]

yeah

[wooden ember]

Are you banging the shit out of your keys?

[heady compass]

nope

they're just really low quality

first keys that went were the wide ones

backspace, tab, caps, shift, enter

[idle sinew]

You sure it was PBT?

[wooden ember]

I used pbt notion in a tofu65 for a while before my second custom keeb and gmk set and never had an issue with them

My favorite GMK set has shine on them but that's normal for ABS caps

[heady compass]

keychron says it is but i'm starting to doubt them

i had a really shitty abs keycapped keyboard made by lenovo before it and even that took like a year to start getting shiny

[worldly garden]

keychron keycaps lol

should have buy pbtfans

[idle sinew]

Mmmm... I see. ✍🏻avoid✍🏻keychron

[heady compass]

they came with the keyboard

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yeah for keycaps especially

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the replacements were a 30 dollar set bought on allegro

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Even some Razer keyboards come with PBT caps nowadays

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no clue what company makes them, the vendor put their own logo on the box

but it wasn't made by them

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Is Iqunix any good? The OG80 Dark Side is right up my alley in terms of design.

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if u have to stick to ur website then get the q1

if u want to build smth from scratch then

there are more options

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yeah this website has way less options for building from scratch than i'd like

they don't have cases, plates or pcbs

[worldly garden]

so u wanna build from scratch ?

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well i'd like to if possible, like i said the q1 is outta my budget and i'm not against building from scratch in lieu of buying the k2 he

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man k serires overall sucks

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but i'd need to find parts on allegro which is proving to be difficult

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yeah

the bottom of the k2 he is plastic which sucks

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oh....

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top part is half wood half metal

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then get the lemonkey

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such "magic" words

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yeah i'm not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed

[wooden ember]

Might be wood venire

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no no it's solid wood

[wooden ember]

Did you see someone cut it in half?

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good point

i am planning on switching cases soon so the wood will match my setup eventually

• my desk is wood

[worldly garden]

keychron invented more BS lol

[wooden ember]

*wood

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yea

[worldly garden]

akko mu01

wooden case

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well i mean the desk is wood veneer too but yeag

it fits visually

[wooden ember]

Dust and glue with venire

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can't expect much from a 75 dollar kitchen countertop

[wooden ember]

I hate when they mislead that way

Technically it's wood, but how they make them is not what most consider to fit what they expect wood to be

[dense sleet]

Yea im not getting it. Just gonna get a 27 inch

I wish i could get a 4k one but my build can't handle 4k anyway

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That QD-OLED is a good panel tho

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you can apparently get it laser engraved

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if u want wooden case

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and from the look of the screw holes it seems to be real wood

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[dense sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/when-i-am-polish-polish-gif-18767523

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real

[dense sleet]

Polish detected

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lizzie is

im not

lol

[dense sleet]

It's over

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yeah but it's a 65% sadly

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i love polish cow

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My argument when someone points out i'm wrong

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

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i have my qualms with that layout

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wdym

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i just appreciate having a function row

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Any particular 27 inch monitors that stand out to you?

[dense sleet]

Eeeeh im seeing some weird reviews about that one msi model specifically

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esp since i play a lot of battlefield and that's how you switch seats

and removing it barely saves desk space or costs

[dense sleet]

Honestly the choice rn is between some of the asus rog ones

Or the MSI flat 27 oled

I'm still undecided between QD OLED or WOLED

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What about the LG ones?

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but yeah the wood is real on the k2 he

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is just 2 external part

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yeah

i know

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u should get the lemonkey

[dense sleet]

Honestly there is a weird dissonance between what monitor nerds say and what "normie" tech channels say about OLED

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thats the only optimal option for you

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i'll check if i can bump the budget up to it then

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then u tryna find a set of SA expresso

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it's 100 more

[dense sleet]

I haven't looked at them only because it's kinda hard to find them where i live

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Or at least they are not sold in the store i prefer

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Ah.

[dense sleet]

So i haven't looked TOO much into them

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I wish I could be of more help but I'm from the US. 😅

[dense sleet]

Also it's really fucking hard to understand how old the LG models are

Like they don't change the model names that much so it's a bit hard to gauge if i'm being sold a 2nd gen panel

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if u can bump the budget up get the q1 already

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Tbh I'm "downgrading" from OLED and just getting a way bigger display

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people with crt

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that's 400 more

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lg c2

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literally 50% more expensive

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Got that Alienware 34 inch with G-Sync Ultimate. Fantastic monitor, don't get me wrong. But I'm tryna have one monitor pull double duty.

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Don't really wanna use a TV. I'm actually looking at the 2nd gen Ark

[dense sleet]

These two are in my price range

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Hmmm. Here comes the important question. How much work do you plan to do on it?

[crisp patrol]

gl with samsung qc

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I'm aware of what I'm getting myself into. I'll even buy any extra warranty I can.

[dense sleet]

Only gaming

Literally only gaming

I have my current monitor that i want to turn into a secondary monitor for discord/productivity

It's a good 1440p IPS from LG

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27 it is then

A bit easier to drive and cheaper

[dense sleet]

I also don't think i can fit the 34 on my desk...

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I've had good luck with Samsung in the past. Honestly if Alienware updated that 55 inch OLED they made years ago, I'd gun for that

[dense sleet]

But thank you for the input

The ARK does look insane tbh. I'm rather put off by the samsung smart TV UI stuff.

(Mostly all the ads....)

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True. But I'm literally just gonna use my PS5 hooked up to it for my smart TV shit

The panel and multi-view are what I care about more. Especially since I'd like to be able to stream my PS5 gameplay using my PC (I've got a 4090)

[dense sleet]

Damn that's crazy

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I worked my ass off for all my gear.

[dense sleet]

Hopefully i'll be able to get a baller setup soon

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The concept is having everything on one desk. PC and PS5 mounted underneath, Ark with a soundbar on the desk so I can use it as a TV, cable management net underneath for OneConnect and capture card.

Ofc cable sleeves to keep things tidy

I want my setup to be extremely versatile

[dense sleet]

I want that secret lab desk.

Seems really good for cable management. I also strive to keep a clean setup.

Alas i live in a shitty student room rn that just gathers dust. Should change this year though.

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ok yeah i checked a bit more and the k2 he has significantly worse latency than the competition due to only having a 1000hz polling rate

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I can't mount shit to my wall either.

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3.4ms compared to wooting's 0.4 both wired

and the 2.4ghz on it sucks

[dense sleet]

I have that

But i just have it hooked up to the cable

I would have bought wooting had wooting's material quality been better and if they made a 10 keyless

60% is too small and full size is too big

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yeah wooting makes an 80% now

[dense sleet]

80 is also too small

10 keyless is perfect

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i think i'll hold off on the hall effect board idea until i can buy a wooting 80 he

[dense sleet]

I have to say it feels REALLY good

Like REALLY GOOD

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i would try and get it now but it's not available on allegro

except for 1 genuinely insane person selling a used one for 800 dollars US

[dense sleet]

but i haven't found a single game that uses the hall effect feature

Either that or keychron can't hire people with an english knowledge level beyond basic so the web platform makes no sense

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well their quality control sucks overall

[dense sleet]

Idk mine's been good

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my v1 has hotswap sockets so tight i can't pull out half of the switches and their keycap stems shatter after 2 years of use

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Ngl I'm using Alienware peripherals rn 😅

[dense sleet]

When wooting makes a full metal 10 keyless or 90% i'll get that

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Their Pro keyboard is just chefs kiss

[dense sleet]

Alienware when it comes to making literally anything that isn't desktops or laptops

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-cooking-let-him-cook-gif-1255851945098674545

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yeah fr

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True

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that's a lot of brands tbh

if we're talking ewaste peripherals lenovo by far has the best ones, their shitty keyboard and mouse lasted me 2 years with literally 0 issues and their keycaps took 8x longer to become shiny than keychron's

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their monitors aren't even that good lmao

there's much better panels out there

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i still sent that keyboard flying out of a window tho when i got my v1

[dense sleet]

I'll have to refer these complaints to my keychron autism friend

[worldly garden]

u liked the k2 sm lol