peripherals

[bitter oar]

oh really, i don't do that...

testing stabs on the "slops", if the stock switches aren't scratchy/awful, looking for defects

stabilizers on the keyboards, checking whenever they tick, rattle or have other issues, checking if the switches don't have unwanted friction by pressing on them, defects...

with what you've just said

yes wow i do care about these too

you prefer certain plates and certain gaskets or none, and solid pcbs without cutoffs

that does not make the other options shitty if they're implemented fine

anyways by this i mean the minor improvements that higher end boards carry is not worth the extra money... for me and for most people with a said budget.

[bitter oar]

elaborate, explain, clarify. or are you going to just keep gatekeeping

i want to know why is something slop objectively, i don't need to know just that it is without an explanation

[shut sierra]

The thing is, you’ve bought enough boards at this point to have bought 1 NICE keyboard, that is better than ANY of them, and STILL have money leftover, yet still continue to buy and promote factually worse products. I don’t get it, I really don’t, but again not my money. And we’ve already discussed the whole unethical/unsustainable aspect so I won’t get into that again. Even if you just look at it financially it’s a poor decision

[worldly garden]

Not yet

[bitter oar]

i know i could've bought a nicer keyboard/s but to me it's not worth it, i do mods my keyboards differently and i tend to also sell them and i tend to sell them for the price i purchased them, i do it because i'm trying them out, or testing if you like to call it that, they're not factually worse respectable to their price/ within budget.

[worldly garden]

Hipyo tech

[shut sierra]

I mean fine, I guess, if you have fun modding boards and that is your source of enjoyment, I understand your point and reasoning. However with that said, if you enjoy participating in the second-hand market, I would encourage you to buy and modify existing used boards. Maybe clean em, mod em how you like, and resell them. That way you get to still do what you do, and you aren’t supporting these sketchy bottom-line focused companies, aren’t creating more waste, etc. Seems like a win-win

[worldly garden]

Flippers

[shut sierra]

Your take on an “objectively nice board” is limited to like 5 combinations you have written on a piece of paper you keep in your safe 😂 most obscure taste in the world

[worldly garden]

Whats the point of doing a hobby of thats a way to make profits

[bitter oar]

y i do buy used goods too, my 6900xt was, some pairs of headphones

[shut sierra]

Not necessarily I didn’t say resell for profits

More so to break even/not lose out, not to gouge others

I was kidding, never mind

[worldly garden]

*50

[shut sierra]

I was saying youre difficult to please, you are very selective with what you consider à nice board

Glare is stealing the show

Looks nice though

[worldly garden]

In whale we trust

[bitter oar]

i tried to sell for profit some of the monsgeeks i bought for cheap tbh, in the end i didn't manage to but whatever i didn't lose money either

no other resells i tried, it feels wrong

i bought them under msrp/ common retail prices

[worldly garden]

Flip still flips

[shut sierra]

I don’t think it’s flipping if you’re breaking even

[worldly garden]

Budget enthusiast to flipper is a downgrade

[shut sierra]

I think intention is what counts. If you buy boards to play with em/mod em because that’s what you enjoy and then resell at break even, I wouldn’t consider that flipping

It’s not sustainable to keep buying boards and just hoard them, need to get rid of them eventually, and recuperating costs is ideal if you want to keep the cycle going

[worldly garden]

Brownies

[shut sierra]

Yes but you don’t buy budget boards. There is a difference between someone being able to afford nice boards and someone that either can’t, or doesn’t want to spend the money on expensive keyboards. Which ever the reason both are valid

[worldly garden]

Kventinly can afford good boards still

He isnt buying it

He is blind enough to see their value

@bitter oar singakbd loyal customer

[shut sierra]

Yes, he may be able to but if he doesn’t want to then it is what it is, why force someone to buy something that you enjoy? Why not let them buy and spend their money on what they enjoy?

[bitter oar]

this is so wrong in so many ways

[shut sierra]

Yea I agree with that to some degree, but at the same time they were giving reasoning on why they purchase budget boards as opposed to expensive ones, not trying to make claims about expensive boards

[worldly garden]

Collection of good keyboards

[bitter oar]

my claims are the budget boards have respectable value/quality to their price, i buy them to try them out and such, ofc i don't recommend every single chinese "slop" i find

[worldly garden]

But every thing u recommend is chinese flop

[shut sierra]

I disagree, most people that come here asking for recommendations are younger/on fairly tight budgets. Wouldn’t you rather be able to recommend a GOOD, solid build quality, reliable budget option for those that are maybe less fortunate or want a less expensive entry into the hobby?

[worldly garden]

Pepe

Local maker

[shut sierra]

Right but instead of talking down to others for their opinions, and discrediting their thoughts, why not try and level with them, find some common ground? We don’t have to agree on everything, the issue is that you let your ego and opinions blind you from having balanced and well-rounded takes

[shut sierra]

That’s quite nice

[worldly garden]

U alr had one iirc

[bitter oar]

for example, i don't need to own an EVGA W1 or old version P750GM to say if it's good or bad, objectively from reviews the units are known to have high explosions rates or really poor PF that makes the 80 plus rating irrelevant, poorly performing group regulated psu, same with higher end reviewed units

[worldly garden]

15-20 i cant find anyone who wants to reaell it

[bitter oar]

i can literally have an opinion on if something is good or bad even if i don't own something

[shut sierra]

Who, Kvetinky? Or BIOCC?

[shut sierra]

Welllll, if you don’t own the thing, it better be a damn educated opinion

[worldly garden]

I will ask the maker if they have anything left

[shut sierra]

Ok, I like women

😎

[worldly garden]

And in conclusion, they called out us being a “rage baiter” and “gatekeeper, elitist “

[snow linden]

I like money

https://tenor.com/view/crab-gif-26300412

[bitter oar]

yes, opinion but don't use them as facts when generally someone asks for keyboard

[snow linden]

This is exactly what I expected when I joined this discord lmfao

[worldly garden]

Thocc im still blaming myself for not buying the cw

Yes and we didnt believe it

[bitter oar]

it is what it is unfortunately

[snow linden]

Eh each to their own lmao

[shut sierra]

Well ok, from my perspective? I think you guys sometimes engage in that kind of behaviour. Regardless of the conversations you guys have had in the past I don’t think you guys should stoop to that level, no? Don’t let the actions of others drag you down

[snow linden]

Ppl can spend as much as they want even if it doesn’t benefit them

[worldly garden]

They come up with secure payment like pp and thats a sold

[shut sierra]

Yea it’s a bit cooked I wanted to get back into the keyboard hobby but this chat is like 80% arguing lmao

[worldly garden]

Unfortunately charge backs using cc is kinda complicated here so i cant risk

[snow linden]

Jesus man I see value is an old piece of shit as long as it works lol

[worldly garden]

Ltt is general tech

[snow linden]

It’s a keyboard haha

[shut sierra]

lol true I mean depends what your goals are right?

[bitter oar]

yes. because you refuse to explain why is something better, instead you prefer to say on something it's trash and call it a day, i asked why, i don't get a reasonable answer.

[worldly garden]

They are reasonable to anyone but tou

[snow linden]

A keyboard is a keyboard

[worldly garden]

Kvetdonkey

[shut sierra]

Alright this is edging bullying, just ignore it at this point, no reason to add gas to the fire

[snow linden]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-nails-nail-computer-keyboard-gif-7886259

[worldly garden]

They will kick u out a meet up with that nail

[bitter oar]

not the keyboards, why the keyboards are trash or slop to most of the people when they ask, you refuse to tell me, they're not trash respectable to their budget how's is that not rational?

[worldly garden]

Meet up ( ewaste on my hand )

Are u sure

[bitter oar]

it's reasonable to answer a question when someone asks you...

[worldly garden]

Is a kalam

Their type sucks

Only heavy

[shut sierra]

We have provided a lot of points, GOOD points, reasonable points against low-end boards, you just choose to ignore or discredit them because it fits your narrative. You can’t claim we haven’t tried you just don’t agree with them.

[worldly garden]

I would personally punch the owner in the face if they let their korn be this flaw

[snow linden]

Keyboard meet up

[shut sierra]

I don’t disagree with you I just don’t like your approach, that’s all

I do think there is a middle ground somewhere in all of this, though

[bitter oar]

objectively i haven't seen one. what's wrong with the chinese keyboard cases, plates, switches, pcbs, keycaps, well materials.

they only say they're shit

without an explanation

[shut sierra]

Ok theoretically right

Ignoring all the points we’ve given

[worldly garden]

Bro u are not donald trump

U cant make this keyboard chat great again

[snow linden]

Can’t post schizo gifs what?

[worldly garden]

Let me guess 500 ?

[bitter oar]

i agree with the child labour points, but you don't even know if that's the case with the keyboards, the biggest point you've provided was that i should buy a higher end keyboard... i ask why it's better and in what, i haven't gotten ever once such answer from them

[worldly garden]

What the fuck, is goes for 500 max here

[shut sierra]

If we compare an expensive keycap set, for example GMK or Cerakeys, and then compare them to a cheap, 20$ replica set, which do you think has the higher quality materials? Better R&D? Better build and print quality? Better after sale support? Better resale value? Ask your self why and answer these questions. Then apply the same logic to keyboards

[worldly garden]

Actually we onces discuss about the keycaps

He told me that 1$ keycaps works

As long as u arent gatekeeping

[shut sierra]

Sure they work, but I mean working and good are different lmao

One can hope 😌

[worldly garden]

Biooc passed on striker and get ceramic

Bad decision

U saw his neo

Looks literally like striker

[bitter oar]

ofc GMK compared to cheap chinese keycaps when it comes to shot quality (edges of the keycaps or bottom), on average less warping and such defects, usually better printing, etc but again... respectable to budget. for someone it may not be worth $50+ for keycaps

[shut sierra]

Overpriced because no competition, so they can inflate pricing. I do think the concept of ceramic keycaps is cool tho, could be a neat new material if it catches on

[worldly garden]

Honest reaction from meet up members when trying out a korm

[shut sierra]

For sure, it’s not for everyone, but it is better

[shut sierra]

He’s dialed you can tell from his posture

[bitter oar]

I have friends that had GMK and they complain about the abs plastic turning shiny, also abs just behaves commonly like that, it's not a deal breaker for everyone but it is a thing and it's not the nicest on such pricey sets

[worldly garden]

He is staring at the owner

[shut sierra]

Oh lol I thought he was doing a type test or something

[worldly garden]

We are testing it out yeah

[bitter oar]

respectable to their budget yes, i haven't claimed "for everyone budget keycaps are the way to go only"

ever, and they behave like i did

[worldly garden]

U want a MY commission 3/13

5500

How was it

“Kalam type feels better ahh”

[shut sierra]

@bitter oar I’m not arguing it’s for everyone, I’m arguing it’s better quality, and therefore it’s disingenuous of you to discredit either myself or the others here when you ask “why is it better” and we provide our reasoning for why it is better, in our opinion. Sure ABS isn’t for everyone and may get shiny or whatever but that’s not the point being made. It’s a thought exercise

Wait that board is 2k?

USD???????

Hell nah that’s insane

[worldly garden]

Show them ur otd

Aww shite

[bitter oar]

yes opinion is okay, but it's not okay to use wrong opinion as facts, that'd be biased then. these guys simply don't understand what a truly decent cheap keyboard (((respectable to price))) means

[worldly garden]

Yes join kbd chat

No chinesium allowed ( im an exception)

[shut sierra]

Define a “wrong opinion”

[bitter oar]

i think all evga psus suck for everyone because two of mine i bought exploded yesterday

[worldly garden]

Thrift from kvet alliance to enemy real quick

[shut sierra]

So I don’t quite think you understand what an opinion is

[worldly garden]

As he should

[shut sierra]

I think you should reflect and do some research, and then we can come back and have a proper discussion

[worldly garden]

15 monsgeek owner

[bitter oar]

opinion is okay even biased, facts aren't okay if they're biased you ideally want to represent something as close to a reality

[worldly garden]

I had a monsgeek earlier day in the hobby tho

Like a week or two after i joined keeb hangout

M1 v1 was not completed

The m1w was so much better for chinesium enjoyer

Warfare

To be fair atleast Biooc LEARNS

[shut sierra]

Here’s what I think, and this is gonna be my final say on the matter. You have your opinion on budget boards which is totally fine, do what makes you have the most appreciation and fun in the hobby. What isn’t ok is coming to this chat, arguing your opinion is the right opinion, and not let people disagree. Why do you need validation from others? Just have your opinion, accept that not everyone will agree, and go on about your life. Don’t waste your time trying to argue an opinion you KNOW the others here dont agree with. What’s the point?

[worldly garden]

Yes yes yes

[shut sierra]

It’s a waste of everyone’s time

[boreal rivet]

redditors please stop

[worldly garden]

Is topre still good in 2026

[shut sierra]

Classic, jumping in to provide 0 intelligent comments

[worldly garden]

Let him be lol

[boreal rivet]

I simply don't need to say much

[shut sierra]

Then why say anything?

[boreal rivet]

this is literally just two redditors arguing over nothing

[bitter oar]

because when i try to recommend a keyboard someone would otherwise like these guys, uh would say "dinky recommends new chinese slop" along those lines, and recommend him otherwise what could be less preferable to an average user

and that's what i'm trying to discuss here the whole time

[boreal rivet]

omg omg

[shut sierra]

Ok so provide your input, dont start an argument over it. Provide your input and move in, like I said don’t waste your time and energy trying to get approval

If they disagree then so be it, it’s an opinion 🤷‍♂️

[worldly garden]

Thats an anniversary celebration for sure

[bitter oar]

yes, and they exactly do that, i recommend a keyboard they call it a shit, i ask for an explanation why, i don't get a proper one, they recommend another board to the guy that's either out of their budget or tell the person to save up or recommend a keyboard that's good based on their opinions, not facts

[boreal rivet]

smh realforce good is fax

[shut sierra]

Aight fuck it I’m gone, I feel filthy spending an hour talking on discord, gonna go shower and then study, peace ✌️

[boreal rivet]

can you tell me what I should do with my moon tkl kvetinky

should I sell it and buy a xiaohongshu65

[worldly garden]

It takes time

[shut sierra]

Would love to hope on a call to figure this one out, would be a good exercise

[worldly garden]

Kvet never in kbd

I thought u alr banned him beforehand

[bitter oar]

you guys banned me for misinformation, and said that you were trolling with your mod/admin who banned me, you also removed the server link from my dms

[worldly garden]

Kvet go redeem ur self there

There will be other proper hobbist jusge

he got banned from WHERE ?

LOL

[worldly garden]

The server vanity is in my profile

[bitter oar]

you make it sound they banned me fairly, welp it's their rules ig

[worldly garden]

No advertisements

[bitter oar]

i don't have affiliates

[worldly garden]

And i agree based on ur attitude

Cursed

Biooc mods

[bitter oar]

i literally sadly argue with you guys more than with everyone else together, i was only chatting with thocctober and probs few people that got caught in it for the whole time in the server, i don't remember insulting him directly or such, if that was then i'm sorry but that was not the reason i was banned, i never got an easier ban than in that server

anyways, this is not related to this server so i shouldn't discuss it further more

[worldly garden]

Go to alex server

U can probably attempt a ban speedrin there

Keeb hangout

Lovely people avoided me from buying dinks when i was new and mint

[bitter oar]

is that crypto server of some sort

[worldly garden]

Is a keyboard server

[chrome raft]

@worldly garden do u own a custom kb

?

[worldly garden]

I do

[chrome raft]

can u send me a pic of it

[worldly garden]

A watermelon

[fair ruin]

seedless?

[chrome raft]

watermelon keycaps?

[bitter oar]

the legends are the seeds

[worldly garden]

Yeah i just found them funny

I missed out on brg r2

So i will use this for a while

[fair ruin]

its funny. definitely stands out

[shut sierra]

very cute keyboard lmao

[chrome raft]

whats brg r2

[boreal rivet]

british racing green

[burnt fable]

Best way to prevent keycap bleeding?

[bitter oar]

either buy new keycaps or stick something under those keycaps

[worldly garden]

well

without cherries and gmk is just a mid chinesium keyboard

[worldly garden]

turn ur rgb off

[burnt fable]

no

[worldly garden]

thats the way

[shut sierra]

better than a bad board 😉

what are the specs anyways?

[worldly garden]

u are right

will be a bit better with vb tho

[shut sierra]

Looks pretty good

how much is it out of curiosity

Just case/pcb? what comes with it?

Yea fair thats what I assumed, but only saw pictures of it fully built so wasnt sure

Always gotta rage bait eh? xD

no idc lmao

its unnecessary, doesnt upset me though

[wooden panther]

never done keyboard modding, only repaired and swapped keys on a razer blackwidow, i'm wanting to replace the razer greens with something as quite as a membrane keyboard, but nearly as tactile as razer greens. Any suggestions?

money IS an object, so i'm willing to make comprimises.

[stable cipher]

what 75% keyboard would yall recommend for gaming

needs to be hotswappable and wireless

[bitter oar]

budget?

[shut sierra]

Only god I believe in 🙏

[stable cipher]

200, can go over if good quality

[stable cipher]

Based

[shut sierra]

If you want something that'll last you long, I and will be future-proof, I would invest most of my budget into a good case/pcb (hotswappable), and then for now gets some cheaper switches and keycaps, since those are easiest to replace in the future and youll have a good platform to build off of in the future

If you just want something pre-built tho then idk, for gaming people like HE switches or whatever, ive heard alright things from wooting. Do some research tho

Standby tho @patent belfry may roast me then provide better options 👍 I trust his recommendations

WHAT

THOCCY RECOMMENDING A BOARD UNDER 500$?????

/s

difference between tofix 8k and venom HE pcb? quality?

Ohhh I see, thats what HE meant lul, didnt clue in

thanks

I dont think the 85 includes the 43~ for the switches

lemme check

Yea If you select the switches it adds em to the cart as well but not included in the 85. But yea still seems like a really solid deal for an HE custom board

What board is she using currently?

https://tenor.com/view/kfc-kentucky-fried-chicken-8pc-buckets-of-drums-and-thighs-8pc-bucket-gif-1021367529794278943

Very clean, but no sound test? Youre edging me

Sounds good! I like the sound signature, very nice

Thanks for sharing, very cool build

what switches out of curiosity?

I hope vintage browns are not very similar to modern browns?

Modern or vintage? or both?
I thought browns were considered just plain bad, no tactile feedback for a tactile, scratchy

Yes but im asking if youre comments apply to both the vintage and modern browns, or if youre only talking about the vintage browns lol, cuz I hated the modern browns on a friends board when I tried them

like are the vintage switches very different from new ones?

Interesting....

Yea thats fair.

To be honest its not really to my taste soundwise, and I prefer linear switches feelwise, so not for me personnally but good to know they arent objectively bad, all I recall is Glarses consistently shitting on browns lmao

Lmao

Well good to know

dm

?

[fleet scroll]

where’d keyboards go

[shut sierra]

turned into peripherals, i guess lol

[fleet scroll]

well uhh

Monitor

Mouse

[fleet scroll]

keyboards will remain the cooler peripheral

[shut sierra]

real

unfortunately I dont think mouse or monitor modding will be a thing for a while still lol

[fleet scroll]

yeah

it’s mainly just

buying stuff

[shut sierra]

yea exactly

[fleet scroll]

except for that optimumtech mouse but it’s a bit impractical

[shut sierra]

much easier to find advice just reading reviews online, much less subjective than a keyboard

true

[fleet scroll]

indeed

rtings for monitors is great

[bitter oar]

hmmm, i may not know what to get at such budget but i’d suggest looking for aluminum cased keyboards

[shut sierra]

Thoccy had a good recommendation but it got deleted Ill repost because it seemed really good on a budget

[fleet scroll]

i wonder if #audio-tech will be assassinated

[shut sierra]

https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-tiger-lite-gaming-keyboard-kit

with the Venom HE PCB so you can use the GEON raw HE switches

if you want a Hall Effect keyboard

[fleet scroll]

oh that’s a pretty good deal

[chrome raft]

lol

[stable cipher]

other than KBD fans, where could i buy custom keyboard kits and parts

[fair ruin]

divinikey is a good vendor

[stable cipher]

alright

[shut sierra]

Depends on your country tbh are you US?

[stable cipher]

yes

[stable cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/sfm-soldier-tf2-meme-american-gif-24728385

[shut sierra]

KPrepublic is cool, and im95% sure they ship to US, Geekhack is fairly popular but not a conventional retailer, Epomaker i am aware of their existence, unaware of their quality, mechanicalkeybaords.com is a retailer,

Nevermind scratch what I said about epomaker, they seem to be pretty mid/bad, not worth it

[shrewd spruce]

hi

[boreal rivet]

just buy a realforce and skip all that stuff

[coral ferry]

Wait...when...is this just the Keyboards channel renamed?

[worldly garden]

he wants to do a he build for a while but he had no reason to do so lol

wait

peri what

[quasi turtle]

just the testing data

their ratings are wack

[pure sundial]

sup

i see the keyboard channel is gone

😭

[tardy saddle]

Not gone? Same great channel, newly updated name.™

[pure sundial]

i see

welp i just wanted to say that i got my hands on a rainy 75

lol

[thorny ferry]

I do think there are keyboard geeks that want a separate channel for custom keebs

[pure sundial]

as a keyboard geek i agree

[tardy saddle]

Completely covered under this here #peripherals channel, as a keyboard is a peripheral!

[quasi turtle]

for how much

[pure sundial]

130 ish for the normal virsion

not to bad of a price i think

i got the classic blue one

[quasi turtle]

bridge wasn’t an option?

[pure sundial]

eh, i liked the rainy better

[thorny ferry]

Yes, but maybe they don’t want their discussions get “flooded” by mice and membrane keyboards, but you’re right.

[pure sundial]

i considered it tho

[quasi turtle]

i guess doesn’t have blue but it’s a fundamentally better board

[pure sundial]

yeah

i listened to a ton of sound tests, and i just thought the rainy sounded better

[quasi turtle]

oh do note that sound tests are rarely accurate

[pure sundial]

its way better than the custom keychron V1 max i was using before lmao

[pure sundial]

true

lol

[quasi turtle]

enjoy your rainy though

[pure sundial]

but the rainy does sound EXACTLY like most of the sound tests i found

[pure sundial]

thx

[quasi turtle]

deep sounding?

[pure sundial]

ive already done my usual scuffed mods to it lmao

[quasi turtle]

if so then yeah, most of em should sound similar

cause just mega amounts of foam

[pure sundial]

kinda, its really every poppy

but thats what i like so its perfect

[pure sundial]

i love me some foam

lol

[quasi turtle]

so just pe foam and other shit

I don’t like it personally

[pure sundial]

ok

[quasi turtle]

adding foam kills the personality of the board

[pure sundial]

i love foam lol, i never leave it out of any keyboards i make

[quasi turtle]

it makes every board sound the same, that’s the problem with it imo

[pure sundial]

ive made a few boards with foam and without foam and i think they can still sound very different

[worldly garden]

foam boys

[pure sundial]

yup

foam my beloved

[worldly garden]

🤮

not my type tho

[worldly garden]

best thock keyboard for 300$ ?

i want a knob

a pvd weight

and of course flex cut pcb for clou dlike typing experience

must be the 75% exploded layout too

and come from reputable brand

anđ dont forget gasket mounted

some yotuber i watched said they are good for thocky sound

[quasi turtle]

flex cut pcb is shit

it’ll make your board sound terrible

improves flex sure but makes everything else terrible

flex cuts will make your board sound hollow and not good

bridge75/sk75 for prebuilt I guess

look at the qwertykeys options for full custom

qk75n is their only option with a knob i believe?

knob limits option variety a ton

maybe look at the zoom meltrix stuff

[timid pivot]

Update :
I AM FINALLY HOLDING MY DAMN PACKAGE
is today the day I finally got my keyboard ???

HAHAHAHAHA

FINALLY

WOOOOOOOO

Keychron, why tf do you ship your keyboards with Mac control keys slotted in

Are they really selling that many keyboardsto Mac users ?

IT SOUNDS SO GOOD

I LOVE IT SO MUCH

THOSE TACTILE SWITCHES MAN

[timid pivot]

IT SOUNDS KRISP

[arctic shuttle]

Knob at f13 is a very odd look

[cunning anvil]

is this channel formerly keyboards?

[timid pivot]

yes

[cunning anvil]

Nice

[timid pivot]

is there F keys after 12 ? I never saw any in my life

[cunning anvil]

There's more than 24 letters in the Latin alphabet? sus

[timid pivot]

?

there's 26 letters

[cunning anvil]

damn

i guess i made a macropad by accident

[timid pivot]

a what

[cunning anvil]

a macro pad

Is an I/O module a peripjeral

[timid pivot]

the only thing my V6M's keycaps lack are € on E, { on 4/', } on +/= and ` on 7/è

they're here, you can use them but they're not labelled on the caps, which I find mildly annoying

[ivory lotus]

Ooooh she's gorgeous

[craggy dirge]

Are Royal Kludge keyboards any good?
i was thinking of getting the RK R84 75%

[arctic shuttle]

Get a keychron instead

[cunning anvil]

Make a keyboard instead

[arctic shuttle]

There's no benefit to an RK over a keychron

Buy my keyboard instead, good price (kidding)

[craggy dirge]

lmao

[boreal rivet]

realforce is better

[charred plank]

Both are pretty overhyped mainstream memes tbh. Also, nice board. Love the color scheme

[cunning anvil]

Get a 40

[craggy dirge]

i was thinking of starting off with a cheaper one as my first mechanical and then upgrading if i decide to go further

[cunning anvil]

Make a 40

[arctic shuttle]

RK overhyped, keychron just makes a good product

[arctic shuttle]

40's are a children's keyboard fr

[cunning anvil]

mean and uncalled for

[charred plank]

Tbh, keychrons least disappointing board is the v1 max and it's still a board that I think should be $35 and is $100

[arctic shuttle]

Accurate and supported

[charred plank]

Literally better off getting a linky 87 over a v1 max and it's $35

[arctic shuttle]

$35 is crazy in today's market

[cunning anvil]

Phones are just children's computers

[arctic shuttle]

Why are you giving children phones?

[charred plank]

Facts

[cunning anvil]

Why are you giving children 40s

[arctic shuttle]

To suffer

[charred plank]

Give children money so they can invest

Throw off the stock market predictions with their stupidity

[cunning anvil]

Man I forget how mainstream-brained this channel is

How boring

[arctic shuttle]

In what world is a 40 a better keyboard than a 60

Crazy

[charred plank]

Most big YouTuber discords and reddit discords are stupidly mainstream brained

[cunning anvil]

One where you don't lug a computer with you

One you want to keep in your pocket

[charred plank]

Pissed a bunch of them off just by mentioning i made ways to take scientific measurements of keyboard materials for modding purposes

[charred plank]

Gives you more desk space

[arctic shuttle]

Get a bigger desk

[cunning anvil]

In what world is a 60 better than TKL

[charred plank]

I don't use keys other than alphase and a couple f keys and delete ever tbh

[cunning anvil]

Who uses Fkeys

wtf

[charred plank]

F11 mainly

[cunning anvil]

I ain't a penny pincher

[arctic shuttle]

People who have jobs?

[cunning anvil]

I don't need numbers

[cunning anvil]

Skill issue tbh

[charred plank]

I could probably survive with a 40% and a couple function keys

[arctic shuttle]

I couldn't survive with anything smaller than a tkl for work

[cunning anvil]

Skill issue frfr

[arctic shuttle]

My wallet says otherwise

[cunning anvil]

I couldn't use anything bigger than a 30

man cant afford 20 dollar keyboard :kek:

[arctic shuttle]

What?

[cunning anvil]

USD

sorry

Forgot not everyone is US based

[arctic shuttle]

No I just don't understand what you're saying

Makes zero sense

[cunning anvil]

.

You seem to be making not enough for a 20-30 dollar mech

Either that or it truly is skill issue

[arctic shuttle]

I think you misunderstand the assignment there chief

[cunning anvil]

Oh

I see

You're saying I'm poor for using small keebs then?

Funny accounting man

[worldly garden]

sup arson

[cunning anvil]

Oh whoops urite its like 60 total for two halves

[arctic shuttle]

Try again

[cunning anvil]

Why bother

[arctic shuttle]

Brothers going deep for whatever reason

[arctic shuttle]

Hello

[worldly garden]

first time encounter ltt chat ?

go to kbd i will tell you

😂

[cunning anvil]

I guess I'm too EE brained for LTT fr

[arctic shuttle]

I been here longer than you homie

[worldly garden]

fair

i havent seen u around

[arctic shuttle]

Lol bro just left the server

Bro came in swinging just to strike out

[worldly garden]

he is in 40% keyboard discord

if u want to hunt him down

up to you tho

[arctic shuttle]

I'll never understand 40's

I'd rather die than join a server dedicated to glorified remote controls

For the price of a tkl you can get this 40 than has half the real estate

Makes zero sense

[worldly garden]

@arctic shuttle

[arctic shuttle]

Crazy

[worldly garden]

i can conclude i shouuld stay away from 40's since this

this is pure elitism behavior

[shut sierra]

I have an RK, while I dont mind it, I modded it quite a bit to just to make ok, and even then it has a really annoying PCB issue. Cant recommend

[craggy dirge]

ok then

[worldly garden]

no

fire hazard

save up for something properly

[shut sierra]

Yea, as someone who is in a business program, even a 60% board is not ideal, really missing the numpad I cant even lie, might get a standalone 20% numpad

I cant imagine using a 40%

But hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and everyone has their own needs

[arctic shuttle]

40's are just copium but

[arctic shuttle]

I just have the numbpad on my mouse

[worldly garden]

u need a fullsize

[crisp patrol]

splits are fine

since they are actually usable

stuff like xezioh's hhkb 40% is moreso just a meme board

[arctic shuttle]

Splits are their own thing though

[crisp patrol]

splits are goated

anything under 60% is useless unless it's a split

[arctic shuttle]

Even then it's eh but that's personal

When my Dolice coming

[shut sierra]

real

[wispy wedge]

Built this brick

[crisp patrol]

what peak productivity looks like

[wispy wedge]

Just have to animate subway surfers on the display

[craggy dirge]

bc of the battery?

[chrome raft]

uhm I doubt it, but for the price point of some of the rk you can get a better keyboard

I did used to have an rk61, and it was only good after I modded it, with new switches, and lubed it, foam modded it, tape modded it.

[craggy dirge]

ohhh ok

[chrome raft]

yeah

[craggy dirge]

then any suggestions?

[chrome raft]

uhm people may disagree but most epomaker ones are okay in my opinion. this is were it really gets to preference lol. what kind of sound profile do you like? clicky, thocky/deep, or poppy/creamy

[craggy dirge]

i guess thocky or creamy

[chrome raft]

hmm okay nice choices, price range?

[craggy dirge]

i just wanted to start out with a cheaper mechanical as my first one bc im new to this

[chrome raft]

mk thats do able

what is your max price, so I can find a medium

[craggy dirge]

ig 50€-100€ bc school isnt giving much monthly

[chrome raft]

alr nice, i assume amazon works?

[craggy dirge]

i dunno

the shipping is like 30-40 bucks each

[chrome raft]

oh ew hmm

[craggy dirge]

i could just try it from the official websites if they have any

[chrome raft]

do you have a prefered layout? like 60. 75. or full size?

[craggy dirge]

75% maybe

ive had 100%s and they're too big

60% lose their entire function imo

[chrome raft]

mk

[worldly garden]

good luck with customer service and overall quality when using an epomaker board

[worldly garden]

tkl works

[chrome raft]

yeah ik, but I have never had a problem so far, and I don't use customer service lol

[worldly garden]

thats ur personal experience

[chrome raft]

yep, and while I know others are not as fortunate, I'd still recommend some of their keyboards. however the bridge75 is alot better than any of those so

[worldly garden]

indeed

[shut sierra]

I have the rk61 rn and I have a pcb issue, wouldnt recommend

[chrome raft]

that sucks

[bitter oar]

depends on the model, the r84 is outdated rk kb, i you want a cheap 75% board the r75 would be better for a rk

[worldly garden]

kvetinky is back with his best ali picks

@craggy dirge buy a classic tkl

or bauer lite

[bitter oar]

you’re back on your track claiming royal kludge keyboards are fire hazards despite that not being the case with newer models.

[worldly garden]

they are still a bad brand anyway

save ur money buddy

[craggy dirge]

"buddy" ouch but ok

imma look for others

@chrome raft helped

[chrome raft]

kinda, I wish your country turned to euros sooner but its alr

[worldly garden]

https://novelkeys.com/collections/keyboards/products/classic-tkl-keyboard?variant=45937125032103

[craggy dirge]

nah dw ab it i can still order it

just that i gotta save up some more

[chrome raft]

I think they wanted a pre built to get started but that is a good keyboard kit

im saving to get one lol

[bitter oar]

that’s going to be over €100

[worldly garden]

transition lite another choice

[chrome raft]

those look sick ngl

[worldly garden]

had one with alu plate

well it works for the price point

[worldly garden]

tell yoan to get a keychron

[worldly garden]

if u decided to save up https://www.qwertykeys.com/products/evo80

[bitter oar]

if he’s okay with 75% i mean the bridge75 or rainy 75, sk75 are fine under 100

[chrome raft]

fr

its all a mater of availability in their country

[bitter oar]

eu yeah

[worldly garden]

mode sonnet is a 75%

[craggy dirge]

a whole year of saving up xd
its fine tho ig ill look into learning more about mechanicals and stuff

ty all for the reccomendations :)

[bitter oar]

i wouldn’t personally get keychron unless you cannot get the other options shipped, unless you want a 100% then keychron is fine ig

[worldly garden]

get used keychron q1

[chrome raft]

yeah agreed

[craggy dirge]

oh i can they have eu options

might take a month of shipping tho

or 2 weeks

[worldly garden]

check out luminikey

they have some 75's

[craggy dirge]

ok

[worldly garden]

where are u based

[craggy dirge]

balkans

bulgaria

[bitter oar]

from where

[craggy dirge]

ohh nvm it said cargo freight

[bitter oar]

aren’t those over €220 w shipping and duties?

[craggy dirge]

monacokeys/mechmods

[craggy dirge]

gah dam

[bitter oar]

it may arrive faster than that, shouldn’t take more than like two weeks unless they don’t have the keyboards in stock

[craggy dirge]

ohhh ok mb

[chrome raft]

if you use mech mods the bridge75 is only 110 euro

idk how that translates in price, I selected bulgaria tho

[bitter oar]

sk75 can be gotten for like €90

[chrome raft]

yeah but I am trying to find ones like it on these sites that have bulgarian options

[bitter oar]

bulgarian legends?

[chrome raft]

and while I would recommend that one I did not see it on the page

[craggy dirge]

?

[bitter oar]

or shipping to bulgaria?

[chrome raft]

shipping to

[bitter oar]

aliexpress should ship to bulgaria if that’s okay

[craggy dirge]

nah it shows it but the black is preorder

[craggy dirge]

yh it can

[bitter oar]

mb, i thought you were talking about legends https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007531302046.html? is this for example available to you under €105?

[craggy dirge]

yep 195 in my currency

[bitter oar]

oh wow

try find one that’s under €105 but i assume you couldn’t

[craggy dirge]

nah 195 in my country is like 99 euro

[chrome raft]

well I thought I had found one under that in his currency BGN but it doesn't work for him. the link that is

[bitter oar]

ohh i thought you were talking euros

[chrome raft]

apparently the country is transitioning soon

[bitter oar]

💶

[worldly garden]

lmao what the fuck is this

[bitter oar]

yeah in like july

nvm

[bitter oar]

interesting

[craggy dirge]

the start of 2023 they said 😭 🙏

then 2024

then 2025 😭

[bitter oar]

so 2026?

[craggy dirge]

maybe 2027

maybe never

[chrome raft]

oh my

[bitter oar]

yeah oof

[craggy dirge]

oh

whoops

[worldly garden]

@craggy dirge try to figure out shipping on the bongoneko and u should be fine

or this for 189

depends...

[craggy dirge]

searched it up and it said unavailable in your country

from aliexpress tho

thats the only place where it showed me it was available when i searched it up

omggg why are so many keys not registering

i def need a new keyboard now xd

[worldly garden]

this is an used one

[craggy dirge]

?

[craggy dirge]

were u talking ab this one?

[worldly garden]

both

[craggy dirge]

ohh

[arctic shuttle]

Why this look like a keychron with less steps

[sturdy quarry]

Can anyone give me a good white keyboard mouse and headset for less than 100 on ali?

[fleet scroll]

that’s awesome

how old is it?

ah i see

i’m stupid

mx i assume?

looks nice

cool

[molten otter]

whats a good 100% keyboard?

[bitter oar]

depends on your budget

[boreal rivet]

Realforce

[limpid scarab]

Whats a good wired/blutooth mouse for under 40$ rn?

[sour lodge]

hey guys i found the alienware oled screen AW2725DF at 488usd before taxes, i think its a good price, does anyone have a better oled screen for cheaper?

[sour lodge]

usd?

[limpid scarab]

yes usd, forgot to specifiy that

[sour lodge]

youre looking for a gaming mouse or more utility?

[molten otter]

is $300 too much for a neo 80, with HMX Canglan V2 switches

[limpid scarab]

bit of a middle point but mostly gaming

[sour lodge]

ok well lowkey G502 is always great, i love all the buttons and they were rly usefull for me, always assigned ctrl to the third thumb button, theres a reason its one of the best seller

[boreal rivet]

Very good monitor

But don’t you think it’s too good of a price

[sour lodge]

but its a little heavy and the feet suck so for e-sport title if u get serious

[boreal rivet]

Realforce is better

[limpid scarab]

nice, I was also looking, and its prolly not the best but at a razer basilisk v3 (idk too much aboput mice

[sour lodge]

thats after taxes, 15% here

[molten otter]

elaborate

[sour lodge]

i mean liked the softwar of logitech and the g502 is solid, used it for a while

[limpid scarab]

alr, thanks!

[sour lodge]

if u want a Gpro superlight variant, i recently bought this bundle https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005710248909.html

its a rly good deal

[boreal rivet]

Better keycaps, better switches and better value

[limpid scarab]

ill prolly end up getting that bcause I have like no mouse knoledge

[sour lodge]

its basically a G pro superlight with better feet (glass feet) and some grip sticker for 50cad so thats like 35USD

[molten otter]

is there an specific one i should get?

[limpid scarab]

oh cool

what makes glass feet better?

[sour lodge]

delivery can be a little long but from my experience aliexpress refund are good

[boreal rivet]

Not really as long as it’s r1 or r2

Switch weighting will affect how tactile it is

[sour lodge]

less friction, the mouse glides more

[limpid scarab]

ooh

[sour lodge]

i took my mouse pas off cuz it had even less friction on my polished wodden desk and its like its on straight ice

and since its rly light its almost like u hold nothing

[boreal rivet]

Glass skates on a heavy mouse is ass

[sour lodge]

its a rly light mouse

[boreal rivet]

Don’t bother just buy good ptfe dots

[sour lodge]

Kysona M600

[limpid scarab]

nice, I kinda what something light like that

[molten otter]

i kinda wanna build my own though

[boreal rivet]

Might as well buy an attack shark or something

[sour lodge]

if ur serious into FPS it might be worth it but if its for productivty and casual gaming G502 would be my go to, the button and macro and shit, there were rly usefull going back to 2 button only is hard, on the other hand if u never had more than 2 button on ur mouse it wouldnt change much for u

[boreal rivet]

I’ve never heard of kysona

[boreal rivet]

Your choice bruh

Building a keyboard is novel like once

[sour lodge]

attack shark is a skinned version on the kysona they come out of the same factory

[boreal rivet]

And then it’s just a chore

[limpid scarab]

nice, I think ima end up going w that

[sour lodge]

kysona sells theyre mouse to attack shark

[boreal rivet]

Can’t take you seriously with that grammar

[limpid scarab]

wait whys it cheaper on attack sharks website though?

[sour lodge]

and the attack shark on amazon is more expensive without the glass skate and sticker grip from aliexpress

[sour lodge]

well the link i sent is in cad

[limpid scarab]

oh I just meant from the offical websites even

[sour lodge]

lmao, im so used to writing theyre like this, ik its their in this case

[sour lodge]

idk

the bundle on aliexpress is 33usd

[limpid scarab]

also what the heck do drivers do for a mouse 😭

[sour lodge]

its for macro, sensivity and some other option

[limpid scarab]

ah

well thanks!

[bitter oar]

depends also on the desk mat / mouse pad, you don’t want glass skates with some desk mats

[sour lodge]

true

but theyre better than most plastic mouse feet, the basic feet on the G pro and most other mouse rly suck and thius bundle includes the glass skates so thats rly good

[bitter oar]

there has been the aoc ag276qzd2 for like ~450 but it’s not necessarily better, a bit worse most likely

for most users

[sour lodge]

ye i saw

for 50 usd more, i perfer the feature of the alienware

[bitter oar]

@limpid scarab there are also like vxe r1 and zaopin mices for example which are also solid if you’re fine with the shape and size

[limpid scarab]

If you could tell me a bit more later i would appreciate it, a bit busy atm

[sour lodge]

i was gonna say that too but a forgot

[bitter oar]

what keyboard are you look for

[sour lodge]

its a rly good mouse from what i heard, i was gonna buy it on aliexpress but they couldnt send it in time

[bitter oar]

yeah they are, i don’t have major nitpicks on my units

[worldly garden]

yes

[bitter oar]

coating is fine, skates are, my units didn’t experience sensor rattle or significant switch grinding my right button has some pre travel but it’s barely noteworthy

what are you on about again?

i’m literally asking what he’s looking for on a keyboard, his requirements

[worldly garden]

u never answer his question

[bitter oar]

what i would prove by saying that i do?

also it’s like first time you asked

unless i forgot to reply before or i didn’t simply see your question

mb wym by “his” was it your question or someone’s else srry i’m confused i would like you to clarify it

[urban panther]

What happened to #keyboards

[bitter oar]

it has been renamed to peripherals

[urban panther]

I do not like

[bitter oar]

if u not like i nuke your house

[urban panther]

Do it

See if I care once I'm nuked

[static pilot]

got my new keyboard today 🙂

[bitter oar]

nice, an overpriced one but nice

[static pilot]

I like razer

[chrome raft]

how much did u spend

[static pilot]

depends lol

this one cost me nothing (had to return the previous one cause it had problems) the original like $190 or so

this is a really nice keyboard though

[chrome raft]

is it a used one

[static pilot]

no

brand new

warrenty claim

the original was still under warrenty

and my mouse is also razer

https://www.razer.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga-v2-hyperspeed

this is actually a pretty good mouse for it being wireless

between this and the last wired mouse i owned i havent really noticed any difference tbh

honestly i would rather have a wireless mouse

[meager trout]

Thoughts on Glorious Model O

[chrome raft]

shit

[charred plank]

Could have unironically got a neo 75 almost

Like a CNC copper keyboard

[charred plank]

Nice shape trash new price and trash internals

[meager trout]

So... Is it good?

[charred plank]

No

Not unless you can get one for like $10 used

Which tbf happens sometimes

They are kinda wild on the used market

Sometimes

But mainly as cheap cases to mod in

Bought 2 for that purpose and gifted them to friends

[charred plank]

It isn't, but you haven't tried better so it'll be perceived as such. I promise you once you start using more stuff and expanding your experience you'll be baffled at how bad Razer mice and keyboards are

But for now

Enjoy what you have and just remember for your next purchase ignore big brands

[chrome raft]

i said it's shit

[shut sierra]

Razer mice are goated, not great keyboards tho

As someone with a larger hand, death adder is great, I really like the grip and feel of it. Also using the basilisk rn after my deathadder started acting up. Very good for a 60$ Bluetooth mouse, but I prefer the deathadder

[charred plank]

Nah, their mice suck

There was some semi sensible cope when they were the only ones with 3950, but that's not the case any more

And there are tons of mice that copy their shapes but better

All the Razer v3 mice have the mushiest clicks though and their stock skates are atrocious and weight is just kinda bad

[fervent dragon]

https://www.amazon.com/DisplayPort-Adapter-Benfei-Gold-Plated-Compatible/dp/B07FZL34KS/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=QZX7j&content-id=amzn1.sym.255b3518-6e7f-495c-8611-30a58648072e%3Aamzn1.symc.a68f4ca3-28dc-4388-a2cf-24672c480d8f&pf_rd_p=255b3518-6e7f-495c-8611-30a58648072e&pf_rd_r=B18JVCEEHZGDZFKJH9QY&pd_rd_wg=lLp9S&pd_rd_r=cfba4fc5-5844-475c-8d93-a3ee309e8a37&ref_=pd_hp_d_atf_ci_mcx_mr_ca_hp_atf_d&th=1

i'm getting two of these for my old monitors.

[still glade]

Is there anyway to fix the middle mouse button on a corsair? I have to press it down really hard to click it since yesterday.

You know what they say, violence is always the way.. pressing extremely hard on it(To the point of fearing to physically break the scroll wheel completely)) made it function normally again.

[shut sierra]

Ill admit im no mouse expert, nor have I tried a huge variety of mice, but between the ones I have tried 2014 deathadder was the my favorite. Whether its "the best" in terms of specs, I can't speak to that, but as a casual gamer I really like the weight shape and feel

[charred plank]

There are similarly shaped mice that are lighter with better skates etc

[shut sierra]

I dont like light mice

[charred plank]

You think that

But it's cause you haven't used good options

It's not that Razer is good

[shut sierra]

classic case of "your opinion is wrong"

[charred plank]

It's that you lack the frame of reference to know how they compete, which is fine

[shut sierra]

i literally just told you, out of the mice ive tried personnally, i like it, I didnt say it was better

[charred plank]

I was on the same boat as you before

Once you use more stuff though, just like any hobby you realize the biggest brands are bad

[shut sierra]

perhaps, but I also grew up with that mouse. Im used to it and therefore am biased as to how I feel about other mice. Its what Ive always used so anyhting different just feels off and unenjoyable to use

[charred plank]

Again, there are other similarly shaped mice

[shut sierra]

The main difference with mice vs a hobby like keyboards is there is very little aftermarket/customizability other than looks

so you kind of get what you get and it is what it is

[charred plank]

Razer shapes are pretty commonly copied

But usually the copies are cheaper and better

[shut sierra]

Ill look into it qhenever I need a new mouse, but for now, my razer mice have lasted me quite long which I really appreciate. They hold up well over time

[charred plank]

Enjoy the mouse

People tend to think that them not having a good comparatively product means they can't use it

Or they think they use it so it must comparatively be better than all the things they don't use

Both views are just wrong

You can own something that was a terrible value and still enjoy it

[shut sierra]

in a work meeting, will answer after

[charred plank]

If I bought a c class Mercedes I'd maybe be mad about the terrible value but it's not like the car suddenly becomes worse as I find out about better cars for cheaper or it suddenly is unusable

[shut sierra]

I dont understand what you mean here

[shut sierra]

Well yea I mean thats a very common bias

you get comfortable and acustomed to routine/what is usual

[charred plank]

I mean you can like your deathadder even if there are better cheaper mice

And same applies to anyone

[shut sierra]

Yea for sure

[charred plank]

And everyone should enjoy what they have

You don't need the best product to enjoy something

[shut sierra]

Also deathadder used to be cheap, idk what they go for now but I think mine was 40$ CAD when I bought it new at the time

Like I said, I dont know much about new mice nowadays, but at the time it was a great mouse for a great price

[shut sierra]

true

[sour lodge]

Hey I currently can buy the AW2725DF screen for 490usd before taxes, I think it’s a rly good price anyone got a better price or a better screen for cheaper/same price

[bitter oar]

sure buy it, i can't really find a better deal for 360hz oled

[sour lodge]

I think I’m even getting a better deal 460usd so I think ima buy it

[bitter oar]

yeah, you can always return it or sell it in the worst case if you don't like it

[sour lodge]

True

[bitter oar]

that's very good

[stable cipher]

Is the rainy 75 good

[chrome raft]

[wispy nebula]

Need recommendations on a replacement gaming mouse for someone in my household.

They have a 3 year old Corsair that's falling apart. Was thinking the Logitech G502 hero but wanted second opinions.

[chrome raft]

pulsar x2v2

[shadow ridge]

did this replace the keyboards channel

[charred plank]

Yes

[lime skiff]

is there anyone here who could anwser a question i had reguarding keycap profiles?

[charred plank]

What is it?

[lime skiff]

is the diffrence between ksa (keychron sa) and oem keycaps super noticeable

[charred plank]

I'd say sa is usually much better but idk why you'd want keychron caps

[lime skiff]

just becuase they are easy to purchase

[charred plank]

Keychron is just kinda bad at everything tbh

[charred plank]

Almost any sa caps will be better and most will be cheaper

[lime skiff]

how does sa compare to cherry?

or oem'

[charred plank]

You can buy them just as easily too if not easier

Cherry is super high pitched and doesn't distinguish rows as well

SA is much deeper and better differentiates rows with height and curvature

[lime skiff]

where would you reccomend getting keycaps from?

[charred plank]

OEM is mid

[charred plank]

Tbh, you'd be fine buying caps on AliExpress

[lime skiff]

ight

yea i found some cool ones on aliexpress

[charred plank]

Aim for pbt ideally

[lime skiff]

k wait

what is the whole double shot shit

and pbt and abs

[charred plank]

Pbt and abs are materials

Double shot means you create the letters and symbols by having 2 pieces of plastic melted together

[lime skiff]

ooohh

[charred plank]

A lot of the time it's pbt on the outside abs on the inside

[lime skiff]

is that more of a prominent sound

[charred plank]

Die sublimation is ideal but much harder to get

[lime skiff]

big words

Die sublimation?

[charred plank]

It basically means you have one piece of plastic with colored die sublimated into the material

But they're also more likely to have tolerance issues

But imo that's not a real concern to focus on too heavily

[lime skiff]

yea kinda sounds complicated

k i think ima go with sa

im on oems right now they they are kinda tall

[charred plank]

For now all you need to concern yourself with is try and get some good looking sa keycaps on AliExpress

Preferably ones that aren't transparent

[lime skiff]

k, can i ask u abt switches too cuz you seem to know your thing

[lime skiff]

ye lmfao

[charred plank]

Cause transparent usually means cheap abs garbage

[charred plank]

I can try and help but dont take my word for gospel

[lime skiff]

https://clickclack.io/pages/vertex-v-one-switch?variant=40678966100004

thoughts?

ik they'll have like 0 shinethru but they sound so crisp

[charred plank]

Tbh, I have no clue on those switches

But they are probably fine

My favorite switches rn are durock pom pianos but only when hand lubed

[lime skiff]

idk these ones just sound full and also come pre lubed

and are like 30$ for 90 so...

not complaning

[charred plank]

Yea, tbh they're probably fine

@lime skiff what keyboard are you thinking of building up anyways?

[lime skiff]

v1 platform

[charred plank]

Already bought it or no?

[lime skiff]

i know ima go with it

[charred plank]

If not I'd like to make some alternate suggestions

[lime skiff]

ive got friends who have built on it so

[charred plank]

Cause v1 platform (especially non max) and imo they're the worst boards I've tried in the hobby realm

[lime skiff]

max

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v1-max-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40637966221401

[charred plank]

Look into bridge 75

It's about the same price

But it's built much better

It's easier to assemble and disassemble

It feels less creaky and half assed

It's made of CNC aluminum and has a steel weight

And is just overall gonna be much more enjoyable

[lime skiff]

bruh they all sold out

[charred plank]

Nah, there are still plenty available

But tbh I like the hi75 i got my fiance way more than v1 max

And that's a $50 board

Half the price

And it's not even like just a little better

And I wouldn't even consider that thing bridge 75 tier

But really I'd take almost any cheap CNC aluminum board over v1 max

It's just a pretty troubled board stock

[lime skiff]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/shortcut-studio-bridge75?variant=50133577826604

this guy?

[charred plank]

Yes

Plus it'll come with some spare switches and caps you can throw to the side for future builds

[lime skiff]

u had this one before?

[charred plank]

Not the bridge, but I know it's much better than some other boards I'd take over v1 max

In this desk the worst was v1 non max and up next was v1 max

And that's if I'm talking just stock

[lime skiff]

so the bridge 75 is a fully built keeb right?

[charred plank]

Yep

[lime skiff]

oooh

[charred plank]

But is also hotswap and all that

It's actually easier to build than v1 max too

Cause it has a ball catch

[lime skiff]

so I could get my own switches and shi

[charred plank]

And doesn't have it's plate screwed to the PCB

Plus it probably has better stock stabilizers

[lime skiff]

Im assuming thats better?

[charred plank]

For some reason keychron likes to use the most crooked stock stabilizers wires

[charred plank]

Much

[lime skiff]

yea im on a shitty k2 v2 and the stabs are killing me

[charred plank]

V1 max you need to do a ton of unscrewing trash to mess with anything basically

Here are stock v1 max stabs next to stock leobog hi75 stabs

Again, a CNC aluminum board still half its price

[lime skiff]

would it be stupid of me to buy the bridge and get switches or smthn for it

[charred plank]

Nah

It's a better board so take the freebies with it but still build it to be the best board you can 👍

[lime skiff]

is there any way for me to just buy the case?

[charred plank]

I wish

They're only selling it prebuilt

[lime skiff]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/shortcut-studio-bridge75?variant=50133577826604

[charred plank]

Which tbh it's just free caps and switches

[lime skiff]

is this a legit website?

[charred plank]

Cause it mogs other options in its price

Yea

[quasi turtle]

alternatively use divinity

[lime skiff]

for caps?

[quasi turtle]

for anything

[lime skiff]

lowky they got some nice caps on ther

[quasi turtle]

board is on divinikey, they have high selection of switches, tools, other stuff

[lime skiff]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/shortcut-studio-bridge75-plus?variant=50133572944172

hey there are some plus and max variants

[charred plank]

I think it has a bigger battery and such but tbh using keyboards wirelessly is kinda an L

I'd suggest using it wired and getting the cheaper version

[lime skiff]

yea good point

[charred plank]

I remove the batteries from all my keyboards

[lime skiff]

i may just order from https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/shortcut-studio-bridge75?variant=50133577826604

then buy the mmd princess switches seperate

cuz the princess ultras are the only ones avalible

[lime skiff]

hey @charred plank! I found some keycaps and I was wondering if these would be absurd to buy becuase of the pricepoint? Thanks!

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/ducky-nazca-133-key-cherry-profile-triple-shot-pbt-keycap-set?variant=47616462324012

[worldly garden]

no good keyboard ?

are u putting asa set on ur neo cu

[vocal depot]

guys keychron v1 max or aula f75

or is there another good keyboard for a similar price

[quasi turtle]

check bridge75/sk75

[vocal depot]

alr

uh how different is the sk80 to the sk75

can’t find either the bridge75 or sk75 on Amazon

and I got like 60 dollars worth of Amazon gift cards

so don’t really wanna buy from other retailers

[still glade]

Corsair m65 rgb. Unscrewed the two screws, but I can't for the love of me get it to separate? Trying to fix the middle mouse button only clicking of i press down really hard on it.

[graceful dagger]

I had the same issue with that mouse. Don’t remember how I got it open, but that didn’t help me anyway — switch was clicking fine, just not actuating. Ended up just grabbing a new mouse.

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Corsair+Vengeance+M65+Mouse+Body/27423

[fiery pulsar]

under the glide pats could be some bc thats smth manufacturer do

[crisp patrol]

I had one and eventually just bought a different mouse

hated mine

[neon karma]

Does anyone know if there is a company that makes low profile cameras built into a USBC dongle. I am looking for something like this for a cheap tablet that does not have a built in camera so I can read QR Codes

small enough you can just leave it in

[charred plank]

the mouse scroll wheel likely snapped at the point of contact

[chrome raft]

hi

[crisp patrol]

realforce

[chrome raft]

[late zinc]

Not at all, just have to seperate the plastic at the back

[fiery pulsar]

Ah that's nice all the mices I owned had them under the glides so yh

[still glade]

Managed to pry it open eventually by gently using a flat head screwdriver

With some proper Russian vodka(mandatory #fckputinandhismother) I cleaned the middle mouse button and now it works like new again.