peripherals

[main narwhal]

The custom aluminum atom68 or w/e it was called, but I don't think it sold very well

This thing

[patent belfry]

there is a guy selling one bnib for like 150

such a crazy deak\

deal

[timid pivot]

geezus
just listened to a couple comparison videos, the blues ones are LOUD

also apparently the brown ones come prelubed ?

[worldly garden]

Yeah no

Only applies to deaf typist

[worldly garden]

Damn

[timid pivot]

or people only recently moving away from typewriters

the green ones requiring even more force to press down would turn that into actual typewriter experience lol

[worldly garden]

For sure

[worldly garden]

Mine is heavier than all of those

63.5g

[patent belfry]

clicky feels nice to type one

on

[main narwhal]

I like my stotles

I never tried blue alps

[worldly garden]

Sound wised

[main narwhal]

Clickbar switches are pretty snappy without having too much crunch

[patent belfry]

pro world clicky my fav clickies

[worldly garden]

No channel for mice

[crisp patrol]

I wonder if boaty likes them

[rancid onyx]

magnetic custom keys overall

[worldly garden]

are bad

[patent belfry]

??

[timid pivot]

what in the fuck

I checked this tutorial, very complete, very informative

they have a referral link for brushes for applying lube

I go to amazon france, same exact product, 5 times pricier

what the actual hell

it's a fuckin brush, how pricey can it get

especially when you know it's the exact same thing than on the US page

[crisp patrol]

boaty apparently was looking for them before he disappeared lmao

[patent belfry]

I've got some somewhere they were really nice to type on because they have the alps like internals

[crisp patrol]

[dense lion]

Any good 100% mechanical keyboards for a not too expensive price?

[timid pivot]

what kinda budget you got

[dense lion]

I have no idea maybe 100 euro max

[timid pivot]

I just got meself a V6 Max from keychron for 95€

[dense lion]

between 80-100 euro's.

[spiral mica]

see if you can find a infi100 within budget

[dense lion]

Can't even find one on amazon

[spiral mica]

aliexpress

amazon has no good keyboard

[timid pivot]

maybe their website ?
I got my keychron directly from keychron

[dense lion]

Shipping takes too long + amazon easy return policy

[spiral mica]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

keychron is basically your only option then

all good keyboards are on taobao/aliexpress or other websites

[dense lion]

Only keychron keyboards I can find are between the 150-175 price range and thats probably because its bluetooth

[timid pivot]

which country ?

[dense lion]

The Netherlands

[timid pivot]

you can find keychrons for 75€ on their website

they don't offer free shipping but that's still much cheaper

[dense lion]

Then I'll stick with my current one

Thanks anyway.

[charred plank]

Tbh, that's overpriced even for what a q series board should cost.

Idk if they need iso, but if not keychron is pretty insultingly overpriced

[timid pivot]

I went on the .com websites, change € to $, it's the same

uh

I don't think I checked Q models

[charred plank]

It's their aluminum board

It's honestly one of the worst aluminum boards money can buy

Shouldn't even be $40

V max series should be maybe $30-40

Normal V series should be $25-30

[timid pivot]

Q models are priced 160-220

[charred plank]

Yep

What I'm saying is the prices they should be to compete in the market

The real price isn't near that

Keychron unfortunately relies heavily on their recognition and the fact people will recommend them to everyone due to them having options for so many sizes and prices

However bad the option might be

[timid pivot]

while I don't know nearly as much as anyone else here about keebs, I don't think you have a good sense of prices either
I don't know of a single keyboard you can buy with removable switches, bluetooth, dongle AND wired modes or pretty much any of the modular features that you can find for even twice the prices you mentioned

[charred plank]

Leobog hi75 is a better sounding cnc'd board than q1 with better gaskets for $50

Nothing they make should cost more than that until they make better boards

Also, the reason I named each of those prices is cause I know something like the boards they have but better just over those prices or at them

There are better sounding plastic gasket boards for the price I said v1max should be

There are better plastic tray mount boards for the price I said v1 should be

There are way better aluminum cnc'd boards for the price I said Q1 should be (like it isn't even close cause that thing is just a failure of design)

[timid pivot]

• can't find it lower than 75$ (not including shipping)
• it's not even including the keycaps
• not wireless
• not 100%

I got the V6 Max with caps, wireless and it's 100% for 90€

20€ shipping

[charred plank]

I wasn't recommending the hi75 for him... I'm explaining how it's better than q series. I'm not saying it's a 100% wireless board...

But also, in the US yes, they can be had for $40-50

In most countries as long as imports aren't high they can too from AliExpress

I think you're seeing this as a personal attack on your board

If you bought a board and you're happy with it that's fine

You can be happy with something even if it wasn't the best option

[timid pivot]

not even considering what Ollie was asking for, just in terms for what you get for what you pay, it's apples to oranges, cost wise, I just don't get why you'd mention that board at all

[timid pivot]

oh no no

I don't even have it, I don't know how good/bad it's gonna be

I just can't make sense of your recommendation

[charred plank]

Did you read what I wrote?

It was a commentary on how keychron boards are overpriced

Not a recommendation to that dude

[timid pivot]

yeah exactly

[charred plank]

To make him a recommendation if need to know more about what he needs

[timid pivot]

how can you say they're overpriced when they come with everything one could possibly want and when you do the comparison with what you claim to be a better board, the features and the prices just don't align at all

[timid pivot]

I wasn't on the topic of the recommendation at all

[charred plank]

What do you mean the features and price don't match at all? The m1v3 and hi75 are better sounding cnc'd aluminum boards for 1/4 the price of Q1 with better gaskets too.
Boards like aula f75 and the million other similar $30-40 board are slightly less high pitched and hollow sounding plastic boards than v max series for cheaper.
There are tons of $20-30 range boards that are just basic tray mounts with a metal plate for cheaper than v1 non max but even they tend to sound a little less hollow, but might in the lower end have slightly worse stabilizers I guess. (There are also ones with better plates so there's that)

At the prices there though they'd be competing

Rather than just straight up overpriced

[timid pivot]

the Hi75 isn't 100%, isn't wireless, doesn't even come with keycaps
let's say we take the price of the V6 Max, cut 25% of the price to make it relative to size, remove, say, 5€ for wireless, remove ~25€ for all the caps, remove ~10€ for the switches, I'm not even accounting for stabilizers, you get 30€ barebones

[patent belfry]

that's a lot of words

[charred plank]

I gave it as an example... There are other boards in different sizes... Infact, there is even a full size version of the hi75 of the same series.

You're just proving my point

Keychron relies on people being too lazy to look into other options so they just spam keychron knowing there is a good chance they have an option for the size and budget

However bad that option might be

[timid pivot]

wdym ? I came to a lower amount than the hi75

[charred plank]

V series doesn't compete with gasket mounted cnc'd aluminum boards... @timid pivot

[patent belfry]

yes it does

[charred plank]

The v series are pretty cheap feeling and hollow sounding plastic boards

[patent belfry]

they are good keyboards

[charred plank]

V max at least has gaskets though I guess

[patent belfry]

if it types its a good keyboard

[charred plank]

Not really

[patent belfry]

yes they are

[charred plank]

I guess by that standard yes

But not a good one to recommend

[patent belfry]

why not

[charred plank]

But I agree, if someone owns one already it's probably good enough to use

[charred plank]

Cause already owning one is free unless you can tune travel

Recommending one generally costs the person money

Generally enough money to get a better keyboard

[patent belfry]

people dont want those chinese keyboards because of bad RMA and chinese laws regarding upholding those RMA claims

or lack there of

[charred plank]

That's just wrong

[patent belfry]

[charred plank]

When selling in a country that countries warranty and return laws apply

[patent belfry]

good luck applying that

[charred plank]

And basically any company selling more than a hand full of boards will have curated policies to remain compliant

[patent belfry]

not in chian

china lol

[charred plank]

Yes, in China too

Test it

Look up on a us site their warranty policy

[patent belfry]

some do, some dont, they are not bound to do it by law

[charred plank]

For any random brand

[patent belfry]

not worth the gamble

[charred plank]

It's not a gamble

All will

If you're not sure you check their policy

[patent belfry]

[charred plank]

If it doesn't mention warranty void if removed stickers, it mentions for returns or servicing you send in the original and pay shipping but if in warranty the replacement is covered by them besides shipping it's compliant

And it's the same as basically any European or us keyboard makers policy

[patent belfry]

insufferable one sided conversation, i hope you have a good day biocc

[charred plank]

If it says in big letters "NO WARRNTY NO RETURN NO MONEY BACK NO STICKER TOUCH" then maybe you have a point

[timid pivot]

the sticker shit is completely invalid in the US and the EU

[charred plank]

In the US it is

In EU it isn't

[patent belfry]

love me some thocky keyboards guys

[timid pivot]

the "warranty void is sticker is removed" is invalid, google it

[charred plank]

It's one of the few times eunis catching up to us in public protections that aren't military

[charred plank]

In the us

Not in the eu

[timid pivot]

it is in both

the EU has a consumer protection law that renders this invalid

[charred plank]

Idk what you're trying to argue though given I stated it's not valid in the US?

[charred plank]

I don't think it's eu wide. Certain European countries have the same law now

Unless recently all caught up?

But either way

Idk what you're trying to srgue

As that want my point at all

And I originally didn't even state that they can use them

[timid pivot]

it's EU wide, it's been years
EU votes law, it applies EU wide
some countries can choose to codify it into their local laws with extra details or whatever

[charred plank]

I stated to be us compliant the warranty policy can't mention void if removed stickers

[timid pivot]

the EU is far ahead of the US in regards to so many things consumer protection wise

[charred plank]

If you want to argue about that go to a political discord I guess

Wrong channel wrong topic wrong server

[timid pivot]

lmao, consumer protection is rountinely the topic of WAN shows, this isn't the wrong server
and YOU brought the subject to this channel

whatever

[charred plank]

Idk if you realize what my point was...

My point was just that companies had to follow those lines roughly that I mentioned to be standard for the industry and us compliant

[patent belfry]

@crisp patrol

[crisp patrol]

[charred plank]

Doesn't mean they're suddenly not EU compliant. Also isn't me implying EU has no consumer protections, so idk how that's what you concluded. I will admit I might have been wrong in that they haven't caught up with the warranty void sticker thing though, but not the initial point anyways.

[patent belfry]

You are going to have a very large circular argument with this guy, he will never admit he is wrong and will argue for the sake of arguing

[charred plank]

Read one sentence up

[patent belfry]

just have a little read

[crisp patrol]

[patent belfry]

yo dont you have that g80 from val? why not put nord on it

[crisp patrol]

the 1800 ye

[charred plank]

Back to an earlier point I didn't touch on though, even if we assume all brands that aren't keychron have 0 support and warranty, why would you pay up to 2-4x what something is worth just for expecting it to fail so you can use that warranty when failure rates in keyboards are probably close to at worst 1/1000 or lower

[patent belfry]

wait you got beige NorDE right? that would be so dope

biocc brother, lets just talk about keyboards and not semantics that nobody gives a shit about please and thank you my guy

[charred plank]

It'd be like turning down a used 800 mile Lambo for the price of a civic cause you need that manufacturer warranty

[crisp patrol]

yeah

[patent belfry]

dude you should mount that and take pics

you dont even need a custom, that fucks so hard

[languid fog]

sorry to bother ye clacking gods with such a pedestrian question, but...

can you no longer buy a keyboard from Apple without some form of built in authentication????

I don't understand.

serious question: asking for my mom.

[timid pivot]

what do you mean by built-in auth ?

[bitter oar]

i think it is as well in eu

it’s servicing your device, though if the vendor denies your claims because you opened the device despite them telling you not to they could unlawfully deny your return

they may try to enforce their terms of service depending on lenght of the warranty

if you cause the damage yourself and they find out it was user error you will not get warranty, if the device fails due to a defect even with servicing you’re 100% eligible within 2 years for a replacement

if they refuse well, you can file a complaint or try again, you’re in right

depending on the terms of service outside eu, you may get warranty or not, probably only thing you’ll get is a 14 day guarantee but that can also be bent by the seller’s tos

[bitter oar]

is 10 days fine?, probs more because of christmas

amazon doesn’t have a lot of decent keyboards to choose

ac100 is decent but, if you don’t want aliexpress, taobao or such keychron is fine

or stick with your current one y

[pure sundial]

im trying to figure out how to type with two space bars lol

[worldly garden]

rama

[signal raft]

best white wireless keyboard?

[timid pivot]

best wireless keyboard + white paintjob

[signal raft]

painting an aluminium case seems like a hassle

[timid pivot]

I'm joking, yeah that'll definished be a hassle unless you somehow got an industrial metal coating machine in your garage

[signal raft]

if it wasnt aluminium i think its possible tho idk i have 0 clue

[charred plank]

Can't anodize white unfortunately but you can paint with almost any painting method

[signal raft]

oh

[prime rain]

inherited keyboard

nice

[crisp patrol]

white or ivory alps

[prime rain]

is that good?

[crisp patrol]

really good

[prime rain]

cool

[patent belfry]

looks like a focus keyboard

maybe FK series

[patent belfry]

white

cream was only really popular on apple stuff iirc

[crisp patrol]

damn

[patent belfry]

a lot of focus boards or similar OEMs used white alps clones

those however are not clones lucky guy

[prime rain]

odd thing is that the inside pcb says omni-102 and focus

[patent belfry]

focus omnikey 102

[prime rain]

also omnikey-101a

[patent belfry]

1991 NorthGate OmniKey 102 with skcm white alps

[prime rain]

aargh my hands hurt

[patent belfry]

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Northgate_OmniKey/101

here is a nice little article

[prime rain]

been pulling the keycaps up with my fingers to clean up the 30 year old dust

[patent belfry]

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Northgate_OmniKey:_Gen1

there are few articles on the different types

[prime rain]

cool thanks

[charred plank]

Tbh, I still think the modded lucky is the best sounding after a/b ing

[prime rain]

k i have pulled the top row of keycaps from my keyboard with a shoddy diy puller

does mean i have to go without it while they dry though

[charred plank]

Wut

Why are they wet?

[prime rain]

they are very dirty after being in a closet for 30 years

[charred plank]

Ah

[prime rain]

also the probable 5 years of use before that

[charred plank]

I'd say 50% isopropyl dip them if they aren't a really sensitive type of plastic

While they are taken apart though

You'll have to re lube them though

[prime rain]

i am allergic to isopropyl alcohol so water and tissue + scrub a dub dub it is 🌊

[charred plank]

Maybe drop to like 20% isopropyl alcohol and the rest distilled water actually

[prime rain]

it is very weird using a laptop keyboard again

ctrl key is not where it should be

[boreal rivet]

That’s a better keyboard than what most people have

[chrome ruin]

Looking for keyboard recommendations:
currently I have a razer deathstalker (chiclet membrane, got it for cheap a way back),
some bullet points:

• I like the feedback of a mechanical keyboard - tactile, not clicky.
• Keyboard must be quiet or close to it.
• Size I do not care about, I can get a separate numpad if I start to miss it.
• Prefer up to 100€, but if it seems "perfect", then can think of 150€

PS. It is ok to link me some forum posts too, but it seems that I want a bit too much.

[worldly garden]

Whats ur budget

[chrome ruin]

Prefer up to 100€, but if it seems "perfect", then can think of 150€

[worldly garden]

U want a custom or a prebuilt

[boreal rivet]

Realforce

[patent belfry]

topre

[chrome ruin]

Doesn't matter, I can manage building

[patent belfry]

[worldly garden]

out of curiosity where do they distribute topre in EU

[patent belfry]

youre better off buying something preowned

new topre is expensive and not really that nice

[proven grove]

my surface 5 shift key is stuck

its stiff is that a common problem with microsoft surface 5s?

[spiral mica]

hhkb vendors listed on hhkb website

for realforce amazon had them (idk if they still do) and some custom/keyboard websites

[patent belfry]

they are also like $350 on amazon and shit

as opposed to like 100 used

[crisp patrol]

^^^^

xianyu

[patent belfry]

havent been hyped for a build in a while, this custom hhkb is really hitting that itch

[neat kayak]

how good is the redragon k708 pro for a budget of 100€

[cloud frost]

Old vs new keyboard
Lot more desk space now 🙂‍↕️
(Yes I type funny)

i dunno why my pinky kinda just sits at the side tbh, i think cause it does nothing unless im playing games
i need too actually learn too type properly tbh

[patent belfry]

too bad there is no realforce there

[cloud frost]

What that?

[patent belfry]

the thockiest keyboard around

or a beige keyboard

[crisp patrol]

2x lg dualups?

[prime rain]

o wow

[cloud frost]

in laymens terms?

[crisp patrol]

are those lg's square monitors

or another brand

[cloud frost]

i think its the wide angle making them look square, they are acer 27" monitors

[crisp patrol]

oh I see it now lmao

[prime rain]

im liking this keyboard even more

the wider keycaps attach to these little plastic clips

that can detach

instead of just break off forever

[prime rain]

decapped

gonna rub the in between with a qtip soaked in some cleaning thing ic an find

[spiral mica]

white alps?

you might want to clean the switches honestly

it looks dusty

and alps is shit when the slightest amount of dust enters the switch

[prime rain]

eh it works

i dont know what alps are supposed to feel like so im just going to assume based on my fingers that it feels fine

[crisp patrol]

alps are nice but I can't really say much about the feel of kinda dirty ones

[prime rain]

they feel clicky

that is probably good

[forest marsh]

lucky me, bought a keyboard (rather expensive ), because the brand was recommended as a great Qmk compatible brand , and also because it was the only one that i could find with cherry mx blue's , awesome keyboard for typing like miles beyond what ve had so far, fully metal rigid casing eg.. , but no qmk , and not programmable which is a mandatory thing for me 😦 was only version 1-5 of the keyboard that was qmk , version 6 (the latest) is not , fml https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-6-professional/

[spiral mica]

good keyboard

[patent belfry]

DAS Keyboard II is the one that you want to get your hands on

[crisp patrol]

yeah

white alps are clicky

[lone tinsel]

help

are the nuphy air75v2 s a good low-profile keyboard for the price?
my first time going mechanical, ive been using the mac keyboard up until now

(im not getting the lofree flows because its a bit above budget + less features)

(i do love how the lofree sounds like tho)

[forest marsh]

haha the text was about DAS KEYBOARD , but i got the 6PRO wich is almost the one i want 😄

but as far as i can find any info on it its not a qmk keyboard and its not programmable

[patent belfry]

the is a DAS keyboard

[forest marsh]

shame because it really types well , if i could id swap the electronics with the electronics from a keychron or so but ...

boggles my mind why they would make such a good keyboard and not make it a programmable one , feels like being cheated kind of

and the daskeyboard 2 seems out of production

[patent belfry]

yeah it doesnt really work that wayu

[crisp patrol]

they come with blanks?

is that the pom blank 3000 you have or smth

[patent belfry]

yeah they are blanks

yes i have oen

[crisp patrol]

huh so some blank models are just das branded

or what

[patent belfry]

yes

[crisp patrol]

neat

[patent belfry]

G80-3485LWNDE

[crisp patrol]

wacky name

[patent belfry]

I want this one

so fucking bad

@crisp patrol

[crisp patrol]

pad jis?

[patent belfry]

pom JIS

[crisp patrol]

pad pom?

[forest marsh]

damn i forgot i kind of have a programmable keyboard , well kind of .. its mostly a keyboard and its programmable but not in the sense that the keyboard is programmable ... 😄

[patent belfry]

finally people are posting some keyboard heat in this channel

[worldly garden]

Grats

[whole birch]

If your keyboard is a single unit it is probably poopoo

keyboards that split in two halves SUPREMACY

[patent belfry]

lets see yours then

[whole birch]

notice how it’s in two halves like they’re supposed to be

[tardy saddle]

Yes, that particular keyboard model was designed to be split into 2 halves. Pretty neat, if that style of keyboard works best for your needs. 👍 Cost aside, I like how many keyboard options we have these days.

[whole birch]

my needs and opinons are to corect ones and everyones else is IGNORANT (real true fact)

[patent belfry]

that's some prebuilt garbage

[worldly garden]

20wpm typer

[prime rain]

cleaning my beautiful mechanical keyboard so i have to usethis ass logitech membrane

[patent belfry]

which

[worldly garden]

Buy more

[prime rain]

the one im using has been toe jammed in every nook and cranny and frankly im too scared to open it

[prime rain]

broke

[worldly garden]

Sell ur alps

[prime rain]

hell no its my inheritance

[worldly garden]

My kids wont be bothered if they get my 70 years old switches

[prime rain]

its a vintage 😡 😡 😡

[patent belfry]

cup rubber thocc

[boreal rivet]

me when i spread misinformation

[patent belfry]

^ used to be cool then started having shit takes

[boreal rivet]

my takes have only ever been realforce is better 🤷‍♂️

[prime pivot]

Got this yesterday is the razer basilisk v3

[limber rivet]

Hey I'm looking to purchase the Keychron K10 Pro and on the website in the selection box it says hot-swappable but if I scroll down it says the the black fully assembled variant is not? anyone has this keyboard could tell me which one is true?

[patent belfry]

thocky keyboard

[charred plank]

K series is pretty bad even by keychron standards

[limber rivet]

Why

[charred plank]

It's just a pretty cheaply made tray mount

[limber rivet]

Which one would you recommend then? That's 100%

[charred plank]

Budget?

[limber rivet]

Could be none keychron too. Looking for something silent and potentially has back light

Abt 100usd

[charred plank]

You could probably get a leobog hi98 @limber rivet

Cnc'd aluminum gasket mounted board instead of a toy thin injection tray mount with a hollow body

[limber rivet]

Okay what about 50-60 USD

[charred plank]

I don't know many full sized boards in that budget tbh

Do you really use the numpad?

[limber rivet]

What would be the cheapest 100% keyboard you'd recommend

[limber rivet]

Yes I do 3D

[charred plank]

I don't recommend many full sized boards tbh

I usually look at 75%

There might be other good full sized boards

But I just don't look into them enough

[patent belfry]

there are lots of good 104 keyboards

[viscid kiln]

sir

are magnetic switch keyboards good and silent

[patent belfry]

no

[blissful crag]

i need good keyboard for relatively cheap, i dont know much, preferably logitech (so it can match my g502 and i only want one software for all my peripherals) and with red switches (or any good for gaming) i dont mind blue if i gotta but i heard they suck for gaming so im not sure

i want minimum tkl bc the arrow keys and extra buttons that i use for mod menus

[empty kayak]

Are you located in the states?

[spiral mica]

good
cheap
logitech

the dont mix

get transition lite or classic tkl

[tulip tundra]

Just get a tecware phantom elite. Recommended it to 2 friends and they love it. And third is on the way for another. It’s not Logitech but pretty dang good

[worldly garden]

Dinky keyboard

[worldly garden]

Evo80

[molten patio]

does anyone have a list of romer G keyboards?
looking to buy one

[patent belfry]

hell nah

[tardy saddle]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-ca/innovation/mechanical-switches.html

[molten patio]

unfortunately they grouped their romer G offerings with their MX offerings on that page

[tardy saddle]

Yeah I see that - you'll want to contact Logitech to ask why their website doesn't let you easily filter by Roamer G keyswitches, and ask for a list, since they're responsible for properly marketing their products.

[patent belfry]

I thought logitech dropped the use of roamer g a while ago

most of the stuff i see them releasing have some MX clone style keyswitch

[molten patio]

I hope not, Romer G and Cherry MX were designed for different use cases and both are the superior choice for their respective use cases.

Romer G just feels way better for rapid spam-y keypresses

while MX is the still the king for actual typing

[patent belfry]

• they were not made for a super long time either, I know a lot of people complained about the use of them in their boards

at least in the keyboard nut side of the house

https://www.reddit.com/r/keyboards/comments/1ba773w/looks_like_romer_g_switches_have_been/

this might be pretty useful if you are looking for the switches themselves? looks like omron are reproducing them under the B3K naming scheme

[molten patio]

If omron is making them, it's not a reproduction it's a repranding.

Romer G's were desinged and produced by omron for logitech

[patent belfry]

semantics aside..... heres basically your answer

[molten patio]

Thx i'll look into those

[charred plank]

Getting a keychron v1 and some cherry silver switches to give it another chance

Maybe I just had a bad first impression of the v1

[patent belfry]

all nylon speed silvers are good

the rgb ones not so much they have rattly leaves and dont sound that ogood

[charred plank]

I got the non RGB version for pretty cheap

[prime rain]

i cleaned it up a lil

fantastic it no longer looks like someone left it in a closet for 30 years

[patent belfry]

looks awesome!

[pulsar agate]

Looks way better than a lot of modern one's

[quick flower]

Anyone got a recommended alternative to the corsair k70 low-profile? Looking for something TKL but there's like no prebuilt with low-profile keys that aren't completely flat.

[spiral mica]

keychron

[quick flower]

Don't I have to build those ones

[worldly garden]

no

[fiery silo]

opinions on best creamy 75% mechanical keyboard under $100

[charred plank]

Neo 60 and 65 cu are now gonna be a thing

I'm definitely gonna get one

Just need to decide which

[molten patio]

what are my options if I wanted to DIY a 60 or TLK Romer G keyboar?

[charred plank]

You mean like that switch that feels like a membrane but is mechanical?

Why would you want that

[molten patio]

Sounds like you had the linear ones

[charred plank]

Tactiles

They had the most rounded actuation bump I've ever felt

Felt like a bad memchanical

Not even a good one

I don't even know how you make a mechanical switch feel like a membrane pretending to be a mechanical but worse

But they did it

[molten patio]

memchanicals are meant to imitate the feel of MX switches

[charred plank]

Mechanicals are meant to feel like mechanicals

[molten patio]

Romer G's aren't meant to feel like MX switches at all

[charred plank]

Not to feel like a half working membrane

[molten patio]

Romer Gs do feel mechanical, you said it yourself
They have an actuation bump

[charred plank]

Yea, one that doesn't feel like a mechanical

It feels like the folding silicone bumps you get from bad membranes that are meant to try and imitate a mechanical feel

Legit wish I took those switches apart to see how they made such a bad mechanical switch

I'd take the worst binned versions of a milky yellow over them

[molten patio]

Your standard for what a mechanical should feel like is Cherry MX. Cherry MX is A Mechanical switch but in now way does every mechanical switch need to feel the same to be a good mechanical.

[charred plank]

I hate cherry mx switches so no

My standard is it shouldn't feel like a bad membrane, shouldn't have spring ping, and shouldn't be scratchy

Romer g switches are legit just bad

No way for me to even argue in favor of them

Nothing is even close in the gauntlet of being bad

[molten patio]

I disagree, I find that bump just right for gaming

while also being far more reliable than cherry clones

Romer Gs are built redundant, there are two switch mechanisms in every key.

Cherry MX just uses a single switch with tight QC,
While their clones are just what ever.

[charred plank]

Calling other switches just cherry clones or calling cherry tolerances tight is actually crazy

Almost as crazy as calling romer g good

Dell makes some membranes you might like

Better feeling tactile bump

Feels more mechanical somehow

[molten patio]

membranes are horrible at registering rapid presses

[charred plank]

How fast do you type? I guarantee you any board will register faster than you can type

Unless you're doing like 6k words per minute

[molten patio]

gaming? probably 30-40 keypresses a second

[charred plank]

Yea, you ain't close

Legit though, get a remotely decent switch

You'll think they're actually out of this world if you like romer g

Hell, a bad switch might blow your mind

You could probably exceed what your mind thinks a switch can do with a gat yellow

[molten patio]

I won't cause I like romer G

Romer G is what I like

[charred plank]

What else have you used?

[molten patio]

the others are what I don't like

Razer blackwidow V1, G910, razer huntsman & a couple generic cherry clones.

[charred plank]

That's the issue

You've used gamer garbage

What's your budget?

[molten patio]

Depends, I'm willing to go higher if I can easily to repairs; otherwise about $100

[worldly garden]

Get a realforce

Get out of there with ur romer g bullshit

Sound ass, feel ass and barely compatible with any external keycaps

[charred plank]

Look into bridge 75 if you're willing to do 75% @molten patio

For switches are you okay with linear or do you need tactile?

[charred plank]

Tbh, romer g being proprietary af is probably a good thing. Means fewer people end up stuck with them lol

[worldly garden]

A topre will kill it

[molten patio]

I like tactile, with the bumb being at just the right spot to tell me I've lifted my finger enough to press down again

[worldly garden]

Get a heavy tactile

[molten patio]

pretty sure my current keyboard is using Outemu Reds

[worldly garden]

Like fantasy virus

[molten patio]

Those sound like someone pulling their finger out of something gelatinous and slimy over and over

ew

[worldly garden]

Use a noise canceling headphone

Ur desire is type feeling

[worldly garden]

Or dragon ghost

[molten patio]

pretty sure noise cancelling headphones can't delete the sounds of typing I am using noise cancelling headphones and it does nothing for typing sounds

[worldly garden]

It is

U cant hear it

[molten patio]

aren't kailh switches considered decent?

[charred plank]

Brand doesn't really matter

[worldly garden]

Kalih bcp gud

[charred plank]

But they're mostly considered mid I guess

Still 50x better than romer g

[worldly garden]

Desolder job

[molten patio]

Then i'm going have to go back to the Romer Gs. The blackwidow V1 was kailh switches & I still liked the Romer Gs more.

[charred plank]

Dudes actually trying for the worst keyboard money can buy

May as well get a keychron c series with it 💀

[worldly garden]

We seat here, yapping advice

Listen to it is your choice

Hangon u are using a noise canceling headphone

[molten patio]

I've asked for my options for making a Romer G keyboard. You guys have told me Romer Gs are shit and to get stuff I find worse than romer Gs

[worldly garden]

Pardon what did u find

[molten patio]

Clearly we have drastically different tastes in switches

I liked Romer G

I really liked Romer G

[worldly garden]

Go try a topre

[molten patio]

that's an old school design

Those were very scratchy iirc

though it could have just been dust and debris from how old the keyboards were.

[worldly garden]

Lmao

Topre still released new boards

“Old school”

😂

[molten patio]

Still looks like what they did on the commodore 64

[worldly garden]

Stay conservative then

Buy an old logi board and clean it

[molten patio]

tbh that might be my best option for a romer G at this point

[worldly garden]

Dink

[chrome raft]

das makes a roamer g keyboard

[balmy marsh]

Hey guys im really dumb at picking keyboards, what would be a good 70% keyboard to buy? i do NOT want razer at all. I want mechanical, clicky and nice sounding but not too loud, and i dont want to mod it.

just asking since yall would be best for it prob

[worldly garden]

clicky and not too loud doesnt come altogether

choose one

[molten patio]

... romer G was clicky and not too loud

[dawn swan]

clicky switches are not as loud as hard bottoming out keycaps

just dont type like a gorilla and keep a microphone away from the keyboard whenever using vc and no issue

[worldly garden]

Use kalih summer

[patent belfry]

we still yapping about roamerg

[prime rain]

thank you!

[charred plank]

Best switch cause it tries and fails to be a membrane instead of trying and exceeding being a cherry. Membranes the ultimate goal

Unironically, I think the dude just hasn't tried anything good and the Logitech board just took the most investment so he wants to believe it's good, but if he really does for some reason, he should move to "memchanical" switches

Cause they literally do what romer g switches try to do but better

[patent belfry]

memechanical

[charred plank]

They're terrible, but romer g unironically feels like a bad memchanical

[patent belfry]

this is why they should buy topre

building another custom hhkb soontm

[shut sierra]

Speaking of memchanical switches, my first keyboard when I got my first computer was the Razer Ornata. I enjoyed it while I used it, can appreciate how tactile they are, but I MUCH prefer my current board, just a cheap 60% with reds I lubed.

I think if someone wants a REALLY clicky, on/off feeling switch, the razer ornata isnt a bad choice. Can probably find some used ones pretty cheap too

[worldly garden]

best tkl for sub 400$ ?

[fiery silo]

new to custom keyboards was told if i want a 75% kinda gotta go barebones instead of starting from just a board anyone have experience with this brand and is worth the price

[bitter oar]

That's too much for a monsgeek kb

I paid $30 for my barebone m7 non w's

[fiery silo]

anyone suggestions for a reasonable 75% barebones or like board and compatible top plate and stuff

there website i just saw has it on sale for $70

[bitter oar]

Does the top plate have to be metal?

[fiery silo]

no i was actually told for a creamy sounding build i should go with PC aslo was looking at the NEO70 from qwertykeys thoughts

[bitter oar]

Neo70 is solid, i assume you want something cheaper?

[fiery silo]

ya im looking for hopefully 75% wireless if posssible but not a deal breaker looking to do a creamy sounding build and would like to stay around $200 or so

if possible since its my first custom board

[patent belfry]

yay more budget kbds!

[charred plank]

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/Ollw859dEnwY

Seems to be close to 6lbs fully built for $190 for the most expensive version

[patent belfry]

I would have been buying this, but they fucked up the bottom

wtf is this dawg, should just left the bottom brass

this plate looks stoopid

[shut sierra]

Does it matter? Unless you’re displaying it, only the desk will be seeing that side 😂

[charred plank]

@patent belfry I think the decorative bottom is optional

[patent belfry]

yes, i care about what my keyboard looks like

[patent belfry]

hopefully

other than that gripe i really like what direction they are taking

[charred plank]

Neo 75 is already kinda insane to think of as a like $200 board

[patent belfry]

im in it for the turquoise looking hhkb 60

i just hate the bottom plate

[charred plank]

I'll probably get it in purple

Wish they kept cornflower

[patent belfry]

would be more elegant and cheaper without that back plate, and just 4 feet

rainbow finish is so overdone and tacky now, jane v2 ce did it better

[charred plank]

I kinda like the chroma finish tbh

But I get it's subjective

I think they'll make it optional though

Hopefully

[patent belfry]

i like higher end boards and this almost scratches that itch at under 200

[hollow hull]

I think I should start to find some new keycaps. Any suggestions?

[charred plank]

Tbh, might make more sense to just get a better new board if you're able to

[hollow hull]

Have been looking at them. And probably will. So new board suggestions are welcome too

[charred plank]

@hollow hull budget?

[hollow hull]

No more than 250 euro. Full size, use blue switches now but red brown like are also fine

[charred plank]

Oh

That's a pretty big budget

Didn't expect that lol

Based though

Idk many good full size options though

[hollow hull]

Tbh. I don't know what a good budget is. Would like to be 200 but will be willing to pay 250 if it looks cool

[charred plank]

Do you actually need the numpad?

[hollow hull]

Would really prefer it. Do I use it daily no. Do I like it when I am able to use it yes.

[spiral mica]

infi100

[patent belfry]

i really like budget keebs

[hollow hull]

https://www.mechlands.com/products/keyverse-infi100
Looks like there is a 4 week wait time they do look awesome tho, this is what I am looking for

[patent belfry]

4 weeks is nothing in this hobby

[boreal rivet]

Buy a realforce instead

[chrome raft]

I got this keyboard like a week ago
https://stirline.hr/proizvod/gamenote-mehanicka-usb-tipkovnica-hv-kb498l-backlit/

[boreal rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-sadhamster-hammy-hampter-popcat-gif-6561088576429774594

[shut sierra]

I understand that for sure, I just mean that personnally I would be much more concerned about how the front and sides of it look alot more than the bottom, as I wont ever really see the bottom if im using the board. As I said, unless you plan on just building the board to display, the bottom doesnt matter nearly as much as other factors... in my opinion

[patent belfry]

spend money and get it all.

[shut sierra]

Fair enough, thats totally fair too

[patent belfry]

dcs

[worldly garden]

Panic

[patent belfry]

indeed

all the panic

[worldly garden]

Met someone dcs wyse in the meet too

Red legends tho

[patent belfry]

otd red alert?

[worldly garden]

Could be

Their cond is worse than mine

[patent belfry]

[worldly garden]

Mine is partly yellowed

🥱

[patent belfry]

got pics of the set? im looking for a DCS beige 7u spacebar

i will buy from anywhere in the world at this point

[worldly garden]

Im outside rn

Some sp grab bag geeks will probably have them

[patent belfry]

i need some

[worldly garden]

Some of them have 50kgs of caps

Probably can snap u some

[patent belfry]

needs to be that alpha colour

[worldly garden]

White ish yeah ?

Ok

[patent belfry]

beige

[glass surge]

Leobog A75. Was 120 CAD after taxes (shipping made it skyrocket because it's from china). It's built really nice, come with liners but I swapped in seafoam tactiles. Wireless 2.4ghz and Bluetooth available. Weighs a decent amount.

[glass surge]

(shipping brought the final price to around 190)

[rustic drum]

Does anyone have any recommended keyboard lubricants (that is in stock, divinkey is sold out of all 6 lol)

[spiral mica]

205g0 for everything, bdz for stab wire

[rustic drum]

BDZ is thicker grease than a 205g0 is, correct?

[spiral mica]

way thicker

[patent belfry]

you got scammed

200$ is wild for chinesium

[empty kayak]

I use 205g0 for switches, dielectric grease for stabs, and super lube for springs.

[patent belfry]

[wild star]

wyse alpha color?

[patent belfry]

something close to theatr

that

[wild star]

https://spkeyboards.com/products/sp-dsa-spacebars-1?variant=46668365693206

wyse alpha color is gsx

[patent belfry]

this is dsa

[wild star]

oops

welps, could be a stand in until you find a dcs one

surprised SP doesn't sell dcs spacebars separately

since they do for dsa and sa

[patent belfry]

they used to, im looking to buy a vintage 7u bar anyways, not a new one

[wild star]

that'd be a tough find, You'd probably just have to buy a whole vintage dcs keyset

but best of luck to you

[patent belfry]

id be fine with that

[wild star]

I think I have some alps

7u's lol

[glass surge]

It's because of shipping. After taxes it was only 120. Due to customs and the weights, plus it has a battery, that added like $70 (and the only shipping option was DHL)

[patent belfry]

someone in the Canada Mechkeys server was selling an Amano r2 fully build for 200 cad shipped

which is a far better board

[spiral mica]

honestly why are these boards so expensive outside of china

[glass surge]

I also bought this keyboard like a year ago, so

[spiral mica]

I legit can get one for under 200rmb (25 usd) including shipping

[patent belfry]

this was a banger deal

[spiral mica]

where the hell does that extra money come from

[patent belfry]

price in CAD

[glass surge]

If they are selling for 200, they are scamming themselves

[patent belfry]

stuff doesn't sell for above retail unless keyboard hypebeasts desire it

are you in the canada server?

[glass surge]

They dont have to sell above retail, but only 200, they could've made so much more

[glass surge]

I'm banned because apparently I'm on an alt account (?)

[patent belfry]

its been sitting for 3 months, nobody is buying keyboards.its the best time to buy things in the hobby right now

[glass surge]

Altdentifier hates me

[patent belfry]

just use a vpn

i dont even thing there is an alt thing in the canada server

[glass surge]

Invite link has expired apparently

[patent belfry]

I'll DM you a link

[charred plank]

Just go on your main smhmh

[fleet scroll]

should i buy a topre hhkb with my newfound currency or a new chair/speakers

[fleet scroll]

for context i’m using a custom mechanical keyboard (but i hate linear with a passion)

but my chair is a chair stolen from a school

and i have creative pebble v2s

which are fine

but they are usb speakers in big 2025

May be the wrong place to ask

[patent belfry]

what are you typing on right now

[prime pivot]

Hey I was wondering what keyboard would you recommend I'm looking for a 75% keyboard with a creamy sound, linear switches and has a white themes aesthetic for a white setup

Budget £100-£200

[charred plank]

Okay

So my charry switches arrived

And I actually think they are the worst switches I own rn

[patent belfry]

merry Christmas keeb dweebs! don't spend your Christmas money on ewaste and memeS! be smart this holiday season

[worldly garden]

Bullshit

[charred plank]

They are pure scratch and spring ping and uneven pressure curve

No hate on anyone who likes them

But I absolutely hate cherry still I guess

[worldly garden]

Mod it

[charred plank]

Nah, I don't think they're gonna get less scratchy or deeper or less pingy than my pom pianos no matter the work I put in

I might lube the springs though and keep them as spares for a random project or place holder switches

[worldly garden]

🤡

L+f, burn in 2m times abd spring swap it

Thats what u have to do anyway

Else they are shitass

[charred plank]

No matter the wear in they won't get as smooth as unlubed pom pianos

A good spring might fix the force curve besides the scratch

Tolerances won't tighten with time

[spiral mica]

skill issue

you are supposed to lube, spring swap and film

[charred plank]

And if I'm lubing a switch I'd rather it already be good than with enough work it can get almost as good as a pom piano with trash tolerances

[spiral mica]

you should try broken in mx black

[charred plank]

Which I still don't think it would reach

Cause the slides are so scratchy

[spiral mica]

then shut up about it not being good

[charred plank]

Unless I sand them on top of lubing

[worldly garden]

U are comparing one of the biggest switch manufacturer to a random Chinese company

[spiral mica]

dont comment on them if you have not tried

literally skill issue

[worldly garden]

Got my hands on some west german vb’s in sunday meet

Seems muted to me

[spiral mica]

are they smoother than hg?

[worldly garden]

A bit i would say

[spiral mica]

I have not tried them but supposed to be right

[charred plank]

Size of brand doesn't matter to me

I care about tangibles

[worldly garden]

Is that wasnt ur concern then they are ass to me

Only thing akko did good was their switch puller

Ooooo meet

[charred plank]

I don't use aklo switches?

[charred plank]

Idk, maybe they're worse

But nothing I have ATM is worse than the Cherry's I have

Lubed or unlubed

[crisp patrol]

kohaku

[worldly garden]

The red one was kalam

[spiral mica]

this guy has the worst take ever

[spiral mica]

ew

[worldly garden]

I yeeted him out of existence

[charred plank]

I'm literally stating what I'm able to observe rn?

[crisp patrol]

lmfaooooo

[charred plank]

Like I have the switch in front of me

[worldly garden]

Yeah the fish symbol was off

[charred plank]

Had a couple friends try to to confirm it's not some bias

Everyone visibly cringed when they got to the cherry

[crisp patrol]

only thing bad about cherry is the springs and for some, the scratchiness

[spiral mica]

I have mx black from 2000s which are supposed to be scratchier than hg

and after spring swap+film+lube

[worldly garden]

2 pc’s koi tho so the fun did not ruined

[charred plank]

Maybe you like scratchy

[spiral mica]

it doesnt feel scratchy

[charred plank]

I can't judge

Just not for me or anyone I know personally

[spiral mica]

no

[worldly garden]

Adamas was nice

Very full and solid sound profile

[crisp patrol]

@patent belfry surely the one with a box of vints would have something to say

[worldly garden]

Even tho their fcfs flop as hell

[worldly garden]

Once he said he got 3k vb’s

[charred plank]

Well I doubt all 80 of my switches happened to be one off coincidences on this batch and every batch of reds and browns I tried was the same one off scenario

[worldly garden]

[rustic drum]

I put some kailh low profile deep seas in my iqunix magi65 pro and I was NOT prepared how silent the keyboard is now

[charred plank]

If you like them then cool

I don't though

[patent belfry]

want to see a lot of switches?

[spiral mica]

the thing is, mx switches needs to be lubed and modded

[crisp patrol]

correct me if I'm wrong, but he grabbed a build's worth of them out of the box and just spring swapped them and they were great

[patent belfry]

no they dont

just modded

[worldly garden]

Should be nos

[crisp patrol]

most mx probably only needs a new spring

[patent belfry]

pilled

[spiral mica]

honestly has anyone tried mx2a

[patent belfry]

yes

[crisp patrol]

shite

[rustic drum]

Well you absolutely delivered, that is a LOT of switches

[spiral mica]

how do they compare to hg

[worldly garden]

Mx2a mid

[crisp patrol]

even worse springs, correct?

[patent belfry]

looks like someone busted a load inside the switch

[spiral mica]

yeah I saw pics of it lmao

[worldly garden]

I thought u got unlibed ver from geom

[patent belfry]

i tried the cherry orange MX2A

[charred plank]

I get they'll be better with that, but a switch that isn't absurdly scratch will be less scratchy without lube and especially with lube than these will be with lube

[worldly garden]

Burn in it

Type on it 2m times

U are offending an absolute fact

[spiral mica]

that sounds

bad

[worldly garden]

Cherry being cherries 😂

[spiral mica]

og mx springs were bad enough

sticking to hg then

[charred plank]

That will make the already bad wobble worse and still no matter what won't get it as smooth as a good switch

[crisp patrol]

you can always just buy new springs ig

[worldly garden]

Can u read what everyone said ?

Mod it

[crisp patrol]

but either way I'm sticking with older stuff

[charred plank]

It'd be a lot of effort to make the worst switch I have the worst switch I have by a smaller margin

[spiral mica]

yeah but for 2a I gotta clear off the lube too

and its more expensive

[charred plank]

Maybe if I'm lucky get it ahead of my milky yellows

[crisp patrol]

lmao fair

[amber yacht]

Good keyboard around 100- 200 euro tkl

[worldly garden]

Evo80

[spiral mica]

transition lite

[amber yacht]

It’s really cheap

Nice

[worldly garden]

Classic tkl aesthetic nicer than trans

[worldly garden]

Yeah foamboards

[amber yacht]

But I am from Netherlands

[worldly garden]

U want iso ?

[patent belfry]

hg blacks w/ kelowna pc or gon sticker, tx or gon spring

the ultimate switches

[spiral mica]

w

gat films are also decent imo

[worldly garden]

Rb we talked about earlier will need mods yeah

?

[patent belfry]

@charred plank @spiral mica name that switch + mods

[worldly garden]

I think i will get it in 2025 after figure out the shipping methods

[patent belfry]

fuck i miss that keyboard

spacebar so clean gets rid of 99.9% of germs

[amber yacht]

ISo?

Idk what that means brother

[patent belfry]

UK layout

[worldly garden]

Is like enter for europeans

[patent belfry]

or other euro language

[amber yacht]

Uhm I want wasd

[patent belfry]

wasd?

[worldly garden]

The enter keys

[amber yacht]

yeah not qwerty

[amber yacht]

Doesn’t matter

Enter is enter

[worldly garden]

Evo80

[patent belfry]

i dont think you actually know what youre looking for

[amber yacht]

That’s going to cost probably a lot because I need to sent to the Netherlands

[amber yacht]

Yes a low latency keyboard I like red switches but if it’s lower latency then idc Wich one

[worldly garden]

U gaming ?

[amber yacht]

Yeah

Better iso?

[worldly garden]

Are u a sweat ?

No seriously

😂

[amber yacht]

Idk I don’t call myself a sweat but I like to be fast so I can stick up to the sweats 😂

[patent belfry]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/filco-majestouch-3-tkl?variant=47608032067884

[worldly garden]

Wooting 80 he

[patent belfry]

doubleshot keycaps, cherry reds

made for gamers

[rustic drum]

What I was going to say

[worldly garden]

Their sound is ass but u are on ur headphone anyway

I felt the sore in my mouth whenever i rcm anyone a HE lol

[patent belfry]

man i want a filco majestouch 1

for my cone foot case

[rustic drum]

Does latency really matter that much anymore? I feel like even reaching into e-sports skill level, the latency on modern devices is so minimal (with the exception of wireless) that I really dont think most humans are capable of even telling the difference between a millisecond here or there

[worldly garden]

Be a 1% first and u might understand

[amber yacht]

Goly shit 220

But no problem I can buy it when I get a job next year I have more time

[worldly garden]

Thats good price for 80he

[amber yacht]

I hope it does my dishes

Lmao

[patent belfry]

you have some colours of vibe in mind?

[worldly garden]

Any big vendors

[patent belfry]

no not big vendors

bad idea

[worldly garden]

Give him a gmk deskmat

Geon got brg r2 deskmat for 18$

They looks so nice

[amber yacht]

Fok that polling rate is insane

0,125 ms!!!

[worldly garden]

Yeah and they got gamer rgb

[patent belfry]

yeah for sure!

also thats a sick master system banner

[amber yacht]

And socd

[worldly garden]

Retro

[patent belfry]

fun fact, novelkeys.com will allow you to send in your own art/photo for a custom deskmat in an array of sizes

[worldly garden]

https://cafege.com.au/products/gb-gmk-rubrehose-deskmats?variant=45293899874549

[patent belfry]

https://novelkeys.com/products/custom-deskpad

i think you could find one pretty easily

they also offer a bunch of different materials

!!!

im sure you could work off this and make it slightly wider

that would look great

that would be nice

plenty of options

[patent belfry]

very good

you can chose the material you want in their link

[urban panther]

Rip

I think akko discontinued my favorite keycaps profile

Rip ASA

[solemn berry]

Assume all cost 200 CAD

[fleet scroll]

custom keyboard
gmk67 with akko cream yellow v3s i think

i hate linear though

[patent belfry]

change out the switches then

[urban panther]

I don't mind a heavy linear, but lighter ones feel like nothing

[charred plank]

@patent belfry @worldly garden @spiral mica I lubed some to try out lubed. Still not my thing but definitely better. Still too scratchy though

[worldly garden]

Now have fun cleaning the lubes

[spiral mica]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worldly garden]

Because u are suppose to do break ins first

😂

[spiral mica]

eh its fine even when not broken in imo

[charred plank]

It's okay imo now

Not good

But okay

I can use them lubed on a spare board I guess

[spiral mica]

spring swap and film first

[worldly garden]

I prefer less scratch

But no scratch is non sense lol

500k-1m is fine

[spiral mica]

just too lazy to break in

[worldly garden]

Send it to a modder

[spiral mica]

and pre broken in are hella expensive

[worldly garden]

Not everyone have their own break ins machine in their home tho

[spiral mica]

I was tempted to get one but imo too inefficient

and I dont use cherry mx that often

[worldly garden]

Well yeah

There are a lot of modders locally so shpuldnt be a problem when i need complicated mods such as break ins and diamond polish

[charred plank]

Maybe if I don't like neo 65 cu I'll put them in that

And just make it a more clacky board

[patent belfry]

shoulda spring swapped and added stickers

[worldly garden]

Expect them to be as muted and no resonance like your 75cu

But we will see

[charred plank]

Getting a pp plate for the neo soon

[worldly garden]

Clacky boi

[patent belfry]

boomer keyboards

[worldly garden]

Stick to ur full foam

[charred plank]

I don't use foams on any of my boards rn

Removed it from my neo 75 too

Sounded more full and lively without the foam

Or maybe full isn't the right word

Just sounded louder and more lively

Didn't really change in how full it sounded

Also switched to bottom mount

The silicone gaskets it uses feel kinda yucky through pom and the resonance between the two is kind yucky

[worldly garden]

Sell it and get the pt1.75

[charred plank]

Pp might play better with the gaskets

[charred plank]

Nah

[worldly garden]

Muted sound enjoyer i see

[charred plank]

Don't get me wrong

[worldly garden]

Is neo75cu 3 modes

[charred plank]

The board looks interesting

But neo 75 I got to sound pretty good already

With a little more effort in sure I'll have it exactly where I need it

[worldly garden]

Try the pt1.75 then

[charred plank]

Tbh, maybe I'll get it instead of neo65 cu if the reviews aren't great

I'll be open to it

[worldly garden]

Im wondering neo eftort is trying to put in “premium kb features” and try to cut down the cost

Like whole ass copper bottom

Just do full brass or some shit and im happy to pay 250$

[spiral mica]

honestly I hate how new qk/neo boards look

[charred plank]

Neo 65 colors are kinds bland

[spiral mica]

they are becoming more and more like meletrix shit

[worldly garden]

Qk design is ass, they are copying meletrix zoom’s

[charred plank]

Love the cornflower neo75 anode

[worldly garden]

Yeah fr

[spiral mica]

and the new neo80 is legit a volt 2.0 and navi copy

[worldly garden]

Imagine they made neo fullsized with unibody design 😂

[worldly garden]

They already have a new one ?

[spiral mica]

yeah

[worldly garden]

Source ?

[charred plank]

Unironically if there's a new neo 80 I'd like to see images, just the kinda gauge what it's like

Not doubting you

Just haven't seen it

[worldly garden]

well as i said

[spiral mica]

shit I mean qk80

[worldly garden]

"premium design and feauter. at low cost"

[spiral mica]

brain not braining

[worldly garden]

ahh yeah that

witht that said the neo65 is still nice

without that i would have to get a zoom or smth

used

[charred plank]

Just get keychron v1 max

[worldly garden]

yeah no fuck

plastic case

[charred plank]

But it's popular

Must be best

[spiral mica]

zoom 65 v2 is honestly nice

[worldly garden]

popular for normies

[spiral mica]

beyond that and its ass

[worldly garden]

foamboard is foamboard still

[charred plank]

So many people flip out when I point it keychron isn't endgame value

[spiral mica]

eh I like my zoom65

[charred plank]

Imo it's kinda like Beyer dynamic

[worldly garden]

sure

[charred plank]

Like you see them all over when you enter the hobby

[worldly garden]

i wont mind if anyone like zoom's

[worldly garden]

keychron is decent

[charred plank]

But once you learn the offerings in the hobby instead of just the gamer stuff you think "I kinda don't get why people get these"

[charred plank]

I agree there

[worldly garden]

just dont give out such recomendations like crappy ali boards

like kvetinky did

[charred plank]

Just not too competitive with the real market for the hobby

[spiral mica]

lemokey p1 is nice

[worldly garden]

i dont mean to take chinese board down but u have to find which is good

[charred plank]

Meh

[worldly garden]

qk is chinese anyway