peripherals

[boreal rivet]

realforce

[earnest dock]

Why ahaha

[sand pagoda]

Is that bad? A different discord recommended it, and I usually try and see how other people feel about it before I decide on anything

[worldly garden]

if u like flexcuts, softer type feeling then it is the perfect fit

[patent belfry]

that's like 1.2k lol

[worldly garden]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechGroupBuys/comments/psv7le/gb_jiu_september_20_october_3_2021/?rdt=40751

trendy bigass

[patent belfry]

it's iso enter

not bae

[sand pagoda]

I wouldn’t know, I’ve only had a few keyboards and they were all $40 or less and pretty bad

[earnest dock]

Damn that's def over $150

You got any other recommendations for something similar

[worldly garden]

gotta make an appointment with my optometrist then

[patent belfry]

a bigger wallet

[worldly garden]

i tried it yeah

[earnest dock]

Got any tips to acquire that ahaha

[worldly garden]

good foamboard

[earnest dock]

I mean the most I'd be willing to give is $450

[boreal rivet]

just buy a realforce

[sand pagoda]

What about the neo80? I don’t know which is better, or what all the add ons are

I’m sure I could figure it out, but idk

[worldly garden]

neo80 is a custom kit

= easier to acquire multiple sound profiles

[sand pagoda]

But is it any better than the evo80? Or just more custom?

[worldly garden]

both

[patent belfry]

sit on your money until you see something that you really like and that is of good quality

lots of people make the mistake of throwing money at bad keyboards and end up getting burned

[patent belfry]

lol

[earnest dock]

Thanks for the tip

[patent belfry]

i really liked the KFE CE

if youre looking for something similar to the board i posted

[sand pagoda]

Any tips for what to go for? Or would I just have to research on my own?

[worldly garden]

u should research more and see ur preferences

i will personally go for the neo80 tho

[patent belfry]

neo87 >>

[worldly garden]

this fr

[wild star]

If you don't mind plastic, take a look at classic TKL.

[worldly garden]

i can snap u one in local market for 300 or cheaper bit

[sand pagoda]

It is cheaper, and only thing is I’d have to put it together which is no big deal, thanks

[worldly garden]

because they are not included switches and keycaps

[patent belfry]

people selling classic tkl for like 50$ on the aftermarket

[worldly garden]

classic tkl/ transition lite

[sand pagoda]

Ohhh, I have no clue what I’m doing with switches then 😭

[worldly garden]

if u add ups the misc

they could be more than the whole evo80

[patent belfry]

what is the evo80

[worldly garden]

evo is a brand

under collaboration of neo and qk

[wild star]

hard to beat the value of evo80

[sand pagoda]

My budget was gonna be like $100, I don’t really wanna spend $200+ on a keyboard, that’s money I wanna save for a better PC

[worldly garden]

yeah, for inviduals that want something just works

like the one who doeasnt mod their keyboard at all

[wild star]

For $100, I'd look for deals on mechmarket (reddit or discord)

or keychron

[worldly garden]

keytroll

[sand pagoda]

I don’t think I’m gonna do any mods

[worldly garden]

evo80 is to go then

how much are they in ur vendor

[sand pagoda]

$170 on qwertykeys

[worldly garden]

u american ?

aight

[sand pagoda]

Yeah

It says “customers who purchase from qwertykeys.com will be eligible for a $20 discount”

[worldly garden]

get this anyway

[patent belfry]

based

[patent belfry]

stop being a dink

[sand pagoda]

What’s he doing?

[worldly garden]

gave you something which is completly nonsense

[patent belfry]

recommending you a 580$ all aluminum tkl with no weight

[worldly garden]

LMAO

[patent belfry]

which should cost half the price

or even less

[worldly garden]

400 accounted for the brand recognition

[sand pagoda]

Lmao, yeah I don’t have that kinda money

[wild star]

oh, someone mentioned transition lite, that's a good option $55 for the keyboard, $25 on switches, $10 on stabilizers... still would have to get keycaps. hmm

[worldly garden]

180 for their actual crappy alu block

[sand pagoda]

It does have cult in the name

[worldly garden]

it was cool back then

their older boards

not anymore

[patent belfry]

check the used market

way better deals

also no tax etc

[crisp patrol]

except the shag tax

[patent belfry]

I will never buy or sell to shaggy

[crisp patrol]

[worldly garden]

shaggy who

[crisp patrol]

the shaggster

[patent belfry]

man i cant get over how good the pc plate with nixies is

[crisp patrol]

JiU goated

have you built many boards with clears?

[charred plank]

[patent belfry]

a few yeah

[patent belfry]

keychron 💀

[crisp patrol]

you like them?

[patent belfry]

not really

browns sound better

[worldly garden]

https://wooting.io/uwu

looks good

would love to rapid triggered "wtf"

[patent belfry]

all the osu weebs are gonna go nuts

pretty sure this thing is old tho been around for a while

[worldly garden]

one of my friend is

i will tell him to screw his plan to buy whatever cheap china HE keyboard crap for this

[crisp patrol]

long while

[patent belfry]

so thocky

[crisp patrol]

thocky he

[patent belfry]

i still want to try some HE where i can swap to cherry tops

[plucky folio]

weird question, if i spill energy drink into my mechanical keyboard (not alot) should i dry it with a cloth or just wait for it all to evaporate off

[patent belfry]

clean it with alcohol

and let it sit for 24 hours

[plucky folio]

thank you!

[open fulcrum]

Would it be smarter to prioritize switches more than keycaps? Or is it just whatever I wanna do here?

[worldly garden]

idk is up to you

[open fulcrum]

After a while, the beige seems a bit weird with the black

I found a set I think would fit a lot better, although it’s about the same price as switches, maybe a bit cheaper by a few dollars

(Switches being the kd200s you recommended)

[open fulcrum]

Got it

So what would make the kd200s that you recommended a better switch than the yellow cream v3 pros? To understand the upgrade a bit better

(Trying not to sound stupid or anything)

[spiral mica]

honestly switches are up to preference

hmx switches are all very smooth out of factory and are mostly if not all clacky and longpole so if thats what you want go for kd200 or any hmx switch

[open fulcrum]

I got yellow cream pro v3s from Akko and they are recommending to upgrade to a better switch at some point, so I’m not sure if I should do that or keycaps eventually (I did find a set of keycaps I think would work a lot better)

So that’s mainly why I’m asking

Since apparently the switches I chose are dated (not necessarily bad, just dated), so I’m not sure the differences and if it’s worth the upgrade

Or if I should do that like a few months to a year down the line

(I don’t think anyone here is trying to be super rude or anything, I definitely didn’t choice the best parts for the price, although them mentioning that stuff does make me wonder a bit)

I think people here have been pretty helpful, so definitely nothing to complain about there, I don’t see why I should act way smarter than I am here

Or well, most have been helpful, I think we know who has been the least helpful

[spiral mica]

if you alr got the switches, no

I like cream yellows

[open fulcrum]

I mean they feel perfectly fine to me, so I might just get the keycaps

[spiral mica]

they sre decently smooth and sounds decent on most boards

[open fulcrum]

I’m expecting the keycaps to look something like this on the keyboard

(Although I noticed the actual keycaps are a dark-ish gray not black, so the colors are kinda reversed, but that’s whatever)

Actually idk, are these clone?

The red samurai set they have is definitely a clone

[spiral mica]

I dont recon that set of gmk but if it looks like a set of gmk, definetly

first gmk are all doubleshot abs

and you cant find them on amazon and whatever

[open fulcrum]

I think they are

The gmk Arctic set

[spiral mica]

definetly clone then

[open fulcrum]

https://en.zfrontier.com/products/in-stock-gmk-arctic

[spiral mica]

zfrontier gmk are legit

I didnt know they have a english website

[open fulcrum]

Might still get the set either way, idk if I should care as much about getting clones or not

(The amazon set)

Or kbdiy

Whatever the brand is

[spiral mica]

kbdiy are also clones

the only not clone clone is nicepbt which uses gmk set designes sometimes but they are licensed by the designer

honestly if you are on a budget whatever works works

[open fulcrum]

I mean it seems some care about clones while others don’t mind

[worldly garden]

https://keyboardsimulator.xyz

[open fulcrum]

It really seems like a morality thing

[spiral mica]

it is

just like pirating

[worldly garden]

before 2014 any switch which isnt from cherry is clones

[open fulcrum]

I think it would work pretty well

Probably not the most accurate representation of what it would look like, just idk how to change the color of the spacebar and stuff specifically

Without changing the other modifier keys

[spiral mica]

https://kibou.store/collections/keycaps/products/cannoncaps-earl-grey-lavender

how bout this

[worldly garden]

@open fulcrum how much u are willing to pay for a keycap set

[open fulcrum]

Maybe $35-40, I would assume around that is a decent place to be for a decent set without spending a whole lot

[open fulcrum]

That could fit I feel

[spiral mica]

havent used cannoncaps

but should be better than gmk clones

and its cheap as hell on kibou

[open fulcrum]

The website seems to be using Hong Kong dollars, although that’s about $27

Idk if there’s a us website

[spiral mica]

its a HK based company

so I dont think so

[open fulcrum]

Ahh

Seems to come out to about $51 anyway

With shipping and everything

[worldly garden]

https://candykeys.com/product/gmk-cluck/base-kit-118

oh nvm

bf is over

[patent belfry]

candy keys

[open fulcrum]

I might just get the clone kit from Amazon, although I will think about it a bit more tomorrow

Or later

[earnest dock]

Not really a keyboard question, but since I haven't seen a channel for the mice, I'll just write it here ig, I had a Roccat mouse, but the MMB went kinda bad, so now I was thinking about getting something more durable like OP1 8K from Endgame Gear, I'd be open to any tips

[spiral mica]

go to your local pc/gaming store and try shapes

most important factor (imo) for a mouse is its shape

[patent belfry]

thocky keybort

[crisp patrol]

where badge

[worldly garden]

@boreal rivet

[void bison]

does my 20€ mechanical keyboard sound good?

i like it but im not an expert

for some infos its by a company called battletron and has clicky sitches (idk which though)

it says blue ones but if im correct there are multiple

[void bison]

ooo ibm model m?

[pseudo bolt]

Aye!

[void bison]

i just guessed because i saw the same in a minecraft video i watched of someone who talked about it

i like keyboards but im not good at custom ones

[runic gust]

oh damn hall effect keyboard are so cheap now(make me remember the whole exploitation thing from the should you buy a gpu now video from ltt)
14$(99 yuan), hall effect switch, fully build, 8000hz polling rate

just check some reviews, they also use browser keymap app? From some user reviews on reddit they all said the build quality is about the same as the wooting 60he(which imo is a pretty low bar)

[crisp patrol]

well reddit is stupid

that board is shit

[patent belfry]

no u

[crisp patrol]

[runic gust]

🤷‍♂️

Wooting is also shit (for the price)

[crisp patrol]

the least shit of them all

[runic gust]

Bridge 75 he is way less shit than 60he

[runic gust]

Also this board have a big brand back up behind it, it's the subbrand of the brand that aleo control atk, vgn, vxe, etc, and they're(the mother brand of those) actually bigger than wooting

🤷‍♂️

[crisp patrol]

wow that's amazing, they're probably as shit as vgn too then

[patent belfry]

i still want a frog mini to drop the 60he in

or should i put in korn

[runic gust]

I don't like korn

Kinda mid

Had 1 with vintage black(I even patina the weight), sold to someone else in ~2 months

Frog mini I did have a try at a local keyboard meetup, very nice anode, type alright(don't like the typing feel of that config much, feels on the mushy side), but sound pretty good, albeit the board itself is lighter than I like for the price

[patent belfry]

i have both

just no frog he plate made yet

[crisp patrol]

not trying to be rude but no shit sherlock

it's a $250 board

[runic gust]

More like 230$ is you do the conversion from myr to usd at the time korn r1 launch

At least I got to flip it for some money

Gotta love these keyboard hype

When I received my current keyboard kit, someone DMs me and they're willing to eat a 20% flip before I got a chance to respond, but it's so good so I decided to keep it for...damn almost 2 years now

2.6kg full build(without foam) for a 65%, now with patina from a professional.

[patent belfry]

forced patina 🤮

[crisp patrol]

why cerakeys

just buy gmk atp

gmk doesn't have keys that are offcenter by like 1mm

[charred plank]

neither do these

except its not $150 abs

if I want abs ill pay $10 on ali

[crisp patrol]

you can't pay $10 for cherry molds and good legends

[charred plank]

in abs, you sure as hell can

pbt might cost a little more

[crisp patrol]

cherry molds

[charred plank]

them being licensed from cherry doesnt matter as long as the dimensions are accurate, which most cheap abs caps will be.

in terms of quantity youll find, cherry molda caps are gonna be the most common

[crisp patrol]

$10 is gonna be pretty shit quality

cheapest I'd go is blanks or XMI

[charred plank]

For pbt yea

For abs, not really

[crisp patrol]

yes really

[charred plank]

Abs is cheap as hell and easy as hell to get a smooth mold of

[crisp patrol]

legends

[charred plank]

You're paying for brand mainly

What makes you think bigger brand means better legends?

Any brand can use any legend

You have cheap brands doing ultra complex unique gamery legends and ultra simple legends and everything in between

[crisp patrol]

quality

[boreal rivet]

Just buy a leopold pd

Y’all arguing over nothing when the best option is right there

[worldly garden]

Dont u dare saying that to my lil bae

[runic gust]

I left it over a year or smth for it to patina over time, it actually reach that state just ~1-2 days after using since I don't opt for the copper protection layer of it's weight, that natural patina doesn't looks good to me, so I just send it to a proffesional

[runic gust]

and if I understand correctly, the EU "tax" too

[patent belfry]

so you rubbed off the clear coat?

which board is this

[proper drift]

Looking for a good keyboard and had my eye on the keychron q3 max ten keyless

[boreal rivet]

realforce is better

[crisp patrol]

[patent belfry]

why do those look like red realforce caps

[worn dagger]

So I have an AKKO 5075B Plus. Randomly during a game it shut off, I assumed it died so I plugged it back in (this kb is wireless). The power turns on fine, I check settings and it connected fine, but it refuses to type. I have tried different USBS, I’ve done a restart via FN + ~, which worked, but it didn’t help my issue. I have also plugged the keyboard into a seperate device and it still won’t type, receives power fine. Does that mean it’s the receiver? And could there be any other options I could troubleshoot while I email AKKO?

[patent belfry]

guys i need help finding a sub 100$ all aluminum tkl keyboard that is hotswappable gasket mount with foam kit and switches

[charred plank]

What size?

Getting it as a gift to someone?

Inky 75 might be good if it's back in stock

Maybe bridge 75

[glossy badger]

I just pulled an old keyboard out of storage, and it seems to have a ghosting problem - is there any way to find out if it is a known issue with this keyboard or test it? (microsoft wireless laser keyboard 6000 v2)

[charred plank]

Ghosting?

Do you mean double clicking @glossy badger

[glossy badger]

I mean when I try to game, some keys aren't registering, especially with multiple simultaneous key presses.

I wonder if it might be 2.4ghz interference?

actually it seems like even now, it's missing some key presses when typing 😦

I really wanted to try using this thing, cuz it's a drastic improvement over the Asus garbage thing I've been using(backlit kb v2)

[dawn swan]

probably moisture damage and corrosion

not made to last

best you can try to do is take it apart fully and blast the electronics with something like crc qd electronics cleaner other than that its junk

[patent belfry]

I said tkl

[charred plank]

Yea, I'd say maybe inky or bridge 75 tbh. If you can stretch budget a little you could maybe get a neo 80, but if it's for a gift not much point in that. The inky or bridge are probably more friendly to someone just entering the hobby anyways

[patent belfry]

t k l

[charred plank]

Not many 80% under that price, but most people consider 75% basically tkl anyways @patent belfry

[patent belfry]

I want tkl

[charred plank]

Fair enough

Idk many sub $100 80% in aluminum

Maybe galaxy 80?

[charred plank]

But there is probably something better out there

[worldly garden]

That layout is ugly

[crisp patrol]

you use a 65

[charred plank]

Rn I'm using a 75% but tbh I prefer 65

Weighed my neo75 and it came out to about 3.175 kg. I do t trust the scale too much but until I can get a better one that's my tough value for it's weight fully built with the ceramic caps

[worldly garden]

I had a 75

[chrome raft]

Hello everybody. I’m looking for a keyboard with the spirally dongle thing that plugs in and a very light weight mouse. Please respond or dm me with any suggestions. My budget is 500 usd. Thanks.

[spiral mica]

whats a spirally dongle thing

[ionic briar]

Coiled cable

[spiral mica]

thats...

a way to say coiled cable

I guess

[worldly garden]

2.4 ghz usb

?

[glossy badger]

I've figured out a bit more - If I am holding down the wrong combination of keys, it will think I continue to hold down keys even after I let go. So if I press A + w + shift, it might think I continue to hold A down, even after I let go of shift and A. Is that a known kind of issue?

[worldly garden]

thocky keybort

[patent belfry]

desolder that

[worldly garden]

cleaning keycaps andthe case

bro this thing SMELLS

[patent belfry]

just take the switches

[hexed carbon]

Hey there ! Im having trouble connecting my lemokey keyboard to their launcher to adjust some shortcuts and stuff like I used to do, been 3 days now the connecting button keeps looping forever and it never connects, anyone had this issue before?

I ve tried resetting the keyboard with FN J Z for 4 seconds it flashed red but still same issue, only thing I havent tried yet is on another pc

lol worked just fined on my other pc lucky me I had an extra pc to test on 🙂 now im extra confused as to how to fix the problem with my main pc lol

well at least I managed to set my shortcuts back in for now

[crisp patrol]

this lmao

[patent belfry]

@worldly garden i hope this thing is desoldered now

[crisp patrol]

aren't they lasered shit anyways

[patent belfry]

and the rest of it is in the garbage

lasered pom

[crisp patrol]

lmao

[worldly garden]

oh i just went home from my work

[patent belfry]

yeah get rid of the biohazard

[charred plank]

Hear me out

[crisp patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/akane-yamada-kun-runa-strangle-shush-gif-13814432729646579497

how about no

[open fulcrum]

I’m not planning on changing my keyboard or anything (or for now, maybe eventually I will try another one out, but probably not for a while), but this is more of a question of curiosity, is the removal of the f row on 65% keyboards that big of a deal?

Or does it really depend, like if games you play use them a lot or something

[worldly garden]

depends really

coders or whoever use specific apps will use it for combination keys

btw get the adamas

gbm opened tomorrow

[open fulcrum]

Ahh

[ornate moat]

I require recommendations. Currently have a Keychron Q6 max and I'm not enjoying it

Brown switches feel meh, the keycap profile is a war crime, and the travel time feels too long/the actuation feels too early

[worldly garden]

get a light weight linear then

[ornate moat]

Linear also sounds not good.

My issue with the browns is that their tactile feedback is next to useless. Barely felt.

[worldly garden]

get a heavier tactile then

[boreal rivet]

realforce

[north nest]

Currently I have a SPC Gear GK650K with brown switches and need a second keyboard. I like the GK650K with brown switches, but am willing to pay a little bit more (up to a hundred euros roundabout) for a keyboard with better key stability and or better switches. I am open for all suggestions and think that I like tactile and linear switches, but prefer tactiles with a smaller bump

[north nest]

I was looking into Keychron K8s, anything else I should have a look at?

[charred plank]

How much do they cost where you are and where are you?

[worldly garden]

Dont look into that e waste

[urban prism]

Anyone recommend any places to get wooting 60he+ switches from uk shipping pref

[worldly garden]

Prototypist

[urban prism]

Can someone recommend if TTC magneto switches are any good ?

[urban prism]

If any recommendations of clicky switches for wooting would appreciate

[spiral mica]

for he boards yes

best one out there, most stable and sounds good (behind raw he probably)

[worldly garden]

Clciky and HE

Odd combination

[spiral mica]

does not exist

[north nest]

They mostly are not available (easily) and I was looking at a budget of around a hundred euros maximum, here in Austria. I can also ship from Germany.

[worldly garden]

Holy shit

[topaz gyro]

Im not really a keyboard guy im looking for a nice keyboard, i have larger hands, and my current keyboard is 3 years old and some keys are finicky, Cherry Reds i believe i cleaned it a couple times my D key works 3-20 times

[worldly garden]

Whats ur budget

[north nest]

How may I take that

[worldly garden]

keychron isnt that good

[north nest]

As I said I am open to suggestions and would love to learn more, it would help already, if you could point me to some good resources on where to get started.

[worldly garden]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/hlf0ql/a_complete_beginner_guide_to_the_world_of/

[charred plank]

The secret the discord keyboard community doesn't want people entering the hobby to know

[topaz gyro]

300?

Usd

[worldly garden]

Desired layout, sound, aesethics ?

[worldly garden]

Gatekeepers

Tbh just let them suffer lol

[patent belfry]

thocky kustoms

[worldly garden]

beige

[patent belfry]

[worldly garden]

cocky keyboard

[north nest]

Thanks a lot!

[topaz gyro]

Uhh qwerty not the iso layout, sound cherry reds? Or similar i like the feel, aesthetics i was looking for meme themed keycaps

[worldly garden]

layout ?

like

fullsize

tkl

etc

[topaz gyro]

Ansi also sorry for the delays i work in industrial maintenance i msg when i have time

100% preference @worldly garden

[worldly garden]

ahh. no problem

[topaz gyro]

I gotta get a new mouse aswell so if you have suggestions that will match a keyboard im ears i like shortcut buttons on a larger heavier mouse

[worldly garden]

https://www.qwertykeys.com/products/qk100?variant=43808278511859

hope 98% works to you

[topaz gyro]

Should i go for the hot swappable one?

[worldly garden]

yeah

in case u want to change switches

plus which i dont get the "mx reds sound part"

so do u want a high pitch or low pitched sound ?

[topaz gyro]

Not really the sound i like the feel

[worldly garden]

ok

linear then

[topaz gyro]

I have worn out the switchs on my current keyboard

[worldly garden]

some ppl i know used cherry swwitches intentionaly make them worn out

to make it smoother

[worldly garden]

https://candykeys.com/product/hmx-retro-kd200

this should work

[urban prism]

They sell TTC magnetos on AliExpress I can get 61 for £40 not sure though if they are legit

[patent belfry]

thocky keybort

[patent belfry]

do not buy from candykeys

[topaz gyro]

Whats up

[topaz gyro]

Well im to the point some keys dont work

[patent belfry]

they are a terrible vendor

ask @modest condor

[topaz gyro]

@patent belfry im looking for a keyboard that is user friendly hotswappable switchs so i can replace them when they fail i dont wanna solder if i dont have to is the one diamond selected good for that im not really a keyboard guru

I like the feeling of the cherry reds

[modest condor]

ye please dont support candykeys lmao

took them close to a year to refund me

and they straight up lied to me several times

[patent belfry]

and are toxic to community members

trying to do live damage control across all platforms they are a part of, including alt accounts

[urban prism]

Where can I get TTC magnetos that ain’t got stupid shipping to uk?

[fleet scroll]

i hope the hhkb prof 2 for 120 in pristine condition is still available whenever i have £120

[patent belfry]

^ this guy gets it

[topaz gyro]

Every keyboard ive owned the same keys are killed D, Space,Tab,I, G

And F

[modest condor]

smart.

[patent belfry]

varmillo good

Leopold better tho

[silent otter]

Thoughts on madlions 60he?

wanting to invest in a hall effectr keyboard for competitve edge in val

Found it as it was affordable

[ionic briar]

sure
that's 0.875ms reduction will get erdicated by a million other layer of latency by the time your client package get to the server anyway, but at least it's gonna be more reliable than normal switches

[crisp patrol]

not good

[silent otter]

Lots of people can feel the difference no?

So idk if itll get eradicated by other client latency and PC latency

[ionic briar]

when they have 480hz + monitors and top tier pc

[silent otter]

Why

What alternatives would u recommend hall effect or not under $100 cad @ionic briar

[ionic briar]

anything tbh with you
like I said, it's gonna be more reliable than normal keyboard
and you should not think about "competitive edge" when you are not basically have the exact same setup as your opponent

[silent otter]

facts

Mind over matter

how u play gamesense more imporant 100%

i also just need an upgrade from my old keyboard sk61

[ionic briar]

yea that'll do

[silent otter]

its 3 years old and space bar is rattly

and other stabs

[silent otter]

like the mad 60he is a good upgrade?

[ionic briar]

I still game on my 2020 gk61x
changing switches to a new one cause the original worn out
still play like I do normally

[ionic briar]

yea
im a frigid bitch and I will replace the switch on those if possible

but hall effect is here, might as well get one

[silent otter]

fr?

youll get HE even tho theres not much latency diff

lol i haev the sk61 same maker i think

[ionic briar]

read carefully, I said you might as well get a he board if you are looking to upgrade anyway

[silent otter]

fr cro

[worldly garden]

Wooting

[worldly garden]

Bad keyboard

[bitter oar]

it is HE with higher tolerances but works

if you want socd or custom actuation point, outside of that HE’s not good

and i’d not care about latency unless you’re actually playing for money or something, anything under 15ms is good for a keyboard, if you want lower latency i’d actually upgrade the monitor first.

also, high polling rate is a gimmick (because you pay for it), anything over 1khz is not realistically noticable and that doesn’t include the entire latency

[worldly garden]

Typed on a 1$ keycap set

[patent belfry]

sent from my 1$ keyset

[worldly garden]

aliexpress long time supporter

[patent belfry]

can I get the extended warranty my 1$ keyset

[worldly garden]

15$ for 2 years extension

i got a deal for HW98 Gaming Keyboard Custom Barebones Kit Programmable Software, RGB 3/5 Pin Compatiable Hot Swappable Keyboard 98% for Win/Mac

for only wooping

25 dollars

!!

which will fit 1 Set GMK Hanami Dango Keycaps PBT 5 Sides Dye Sublimation Key Caps Cherry Profile Keycap With 1.75U 2U Shift 7U Split Spacebar

[patent belfry]

lmfao

[charred plank]

Gonna get some signature plastics sa caps

In blue and purple

[patent belfry]

why not wait until SP lowers their pricing and runs some nice sets

[sly ivy]

Im in canada and not looking to buy anything besides in person and amazon and I was wondering what top end keyboards i should consider

[patent belfry]

top end and amazon do not go together

im also canadian

[sly ivy]

I know 💀

[patent belfry]

order from a reputable canadian keyboard vendor

i know lots

[sly ivy]

Do you think memex would have anything good

[patent belfry]

not really

[sly ivy]

Aw

[patent belfry]

https://minokeys.com/collections/keyboards/products/constance

[crisp patrol]

bruh get dcs

[patent belfry]

or that

[silent otter]

ur useless

[silent otter]

yeah fr

[silent otter]

so monitor first upgrade vs keyboard? I have 144 rn

[worldly garden]

Just like ur in game rank

[silent otter]

bro

i said thoughts about madlions 60he

then u said "wooting"

[worldly garden]

I mean just get a wooting

Dont hype on these crappy china he

[patent belfry]

ah yes, personal attacks when you're upset

[tired portal]

Any split/ergo fans here?

[bitter oar]

i assume that’s ips, if you’re really competitive then yeah oled

mid refresh rate ips monitors usually have average total response of ~8ms

so, if you care about low latency or good motion clarity get an oled or ips with very good backlight strobing implementation

anyways, the chinese HE’s are fine, not as good as wooting but not too far

[crisp patrol]

dinky do you ever learn

https://imgur.com/a/stop-buying-madlions-slop-S7lrqVu

[patent belfry]

yo im adding this to my saves

what the fuck is a madlion tho on a real note

[crisp patrol]

cheap china slop he board

sub $20

[patent belfry]

sounds like royal slop has competitor

would be cool if a company made good quality products for once

[crisp patrol]

fr

[patent belfry]

best thocky creamy marbly keeb under 50?

[bitter oar]

what percentage of people have these issues? because you will find people that have issues with your beloved realforces too, wootings as well, etc.

it’s not like you can’t have issues with expensive keyboards

[patent belfry]

wooting is aids

difference is realforce and high end brands have good RMA

[boreal rivet]

Nobody has these issues with realforce

[bitter oar]

i mean, you can google realforce issue or dead realforce, you can find them for sure

not exactly the same issues but other ones

anyways, sorry for my inaccuracies

[boreal rivet]

Other ones that are user error

[bitter oar]

you can’t be sure

dead keys or dead keyboard isn’t always user error

[crisp patrol]

cornball argument

[bitter oar]

you realise the same argument you use agaisnt “chinese slop” can be use again
snt the boards you use?

[crisp patrol]

no they have actual support

[bitter oar]

you’ll find people having issues with either

on used goods probably not, at most they’ll help you troubleshoot the thing

unless the seller has receipt within warranty

you will not get any refunds on dead keyboard without receipt

you’re the one to recommend used keyboards…

if it breaks after whatever is in the marketplace’s terms if any you will not get money back

you can’t have great support for a $20 keyboard that’s not horrible itself

also, you’re not guaranteed to get money back even if it arrives doa, disputes aren’t guaranteed, you make realforce sound like it’s totally risk-free and that the chinese boards are slops

there’s this thing called budget, he doesn’t obviously want a wooting because he can’t afford one

some people are poor if you haven’t realised, and the saving argument isn’t a valid argument

if the keyboards do not meet your standards then put “in my opinion” before every sentence or such, but saying those $15-50 keyboards are slop without accounting budget is once again, they’re not slop then when there’s nothing better

[boreal rivet]

I have never seen a dead realforce nor one with a dead key

[bitter oar]

exactly, you haven’t

doesn’t mean you will not find people with issues just based on your experience

[worldly garden]

U have never tried high end keyboards nor a topre board kvetinky

[bitter oar]

i have tried topre

[crisp patrol]

you probably bought some "topre" board off aliexpress for $10

[worldly garden]

The best he could do

[bitter oar]

also, how does that add up into the argument, i have not tried high end keyboard, the argument is about faulty keyboards

[boreal rivet]

I have not found anybody with issues through my entire time in the hobby

[bitter oar]

friend happened to have one…

[boreal rivet]

I have never seen anybody complaining about it

even on the internet

[bitter oar]

google…

[boreal rivet]

I just did

its all user error

[worldly garden]

I can hear all the scratchy clicky sounds over here from kvet typing

[crisp patrol]

digging up the 2 people who have issues with realforces vs the probably hundreds by now buying mad60hes and having issues immediately

[worldly garden]

Talking about mad60’s

My friend bought one even tho intold him not to

This morning he dmed me complaining about 10 thousand issues

Super dinky

[bitter oar]

to what percentage of people do the issues happen? how many people own those keyboards

[bitter oar]

what were his main issues?

[worldly garden]

0.05mm actuation difference from advertising

[bitter oar]

0.05mm accuracy or initial actuation?

[crisp patrol]

average schizo aliexpress slop consoomer

[worldly garden]

“ 1$ keycap is good, u are just an elitist “

[boreal rivet]

more topre boards exist than the mad60 thats for sure

[bitter oar]

how do you know, isn’t majority of the sales and complaints in china? for cheap chinese he’s

[bitter oar]

at $1…

[boreal rivet]

because topre has been around since the early 2000s atleast

[worldly garden]

Called me a gatekeeper is one of the best compliments I received since i joined the hobby

[bitter oar]

also that you mention it makes you sound as if you’re diagnosed, isn’t schizo that you won’t accept arguments despite all the proof was given to you?

[worldly garden]

No youtube links lmao

[bitter oar]

implied that you have to spend alot of money to actually be in the hobby, that is gatekeeping

[worldly garden]

No ? What an accusation

[crisp patrol]

[crisp patrol]

your only proof is arguing stupid points that you know are wrong

[worldly garden]

If u feel like ur aliexpress keyboard belongs to the hobby, fine

Just dont recommend or promote it to others, because thats all you know

Mr kvedinky

[bitter oar]

Instead of telling people they’re bad, recommend something better then, if they reject then try something else instead of calling them dumb

if someone doesn’t like used (realforce) board then try something else

[worldly garden]

I did, definitely

[bitter oar]

i’ve literally have not been diagnosed by psychologist, altought yes they can not diagnose or misdiagnose

at times

[bitter oar]

you didn’t

at all

you told him to buy wooting

again, you’re ignoring the budget factor as well

they’re asking for cheap he, there’s a reason

[worldly garden]

You know there is an aliexpress scams on these mad60 ?

Thats the youtube video im trying to send

I did not recommend but yet , avoiding them from your pick which is mad60

[bitter oar]

is it related to going off site?

[bitter oar]

okay, then recommend something

i usually just see people getting meme’d when they ask for a chinese keyboard if it’s good

instead of actual recommendations

pretty sure they’re asking because they don’t want what local retailers sell at $15-100

if you want to avoid aliexpress scams just buy from a decent seller

or is it because some of them buy from shady suppliers?

i’m asking because i don’t know about those scams

[bitter oar]

send it into my dms

[worldly garden]

Do u need anything atm

[bitter oar]

what’s your recommendation for a $30 keyboard

[worldly garden]

Model VI

[bitter oar]

looks good, what’s the weight, the keycaps are pbt? is it hotswap

asking as a buyer

[worldly garden]

Abs caps

Gasket mounted blah blah

Everything u would expect in a 20$ keyboard

U still spare for 10 keycaps set

[bitter oar]

how much is the shipping

[worldly garden]

U asked like is mine concern

How the fuck do i know where u are based on

[bitter oar]

let’s say the us

because with shipping it’s not going to be $30…

or do you know of any delivery company that provides cheap eco shipping

[worldly garden]

U asked for a 30$ keyboard which didn’t include shipping

[bitter oar]

whenever says a certain budget i try to include the shipping, because that way i can recommend someone a monitor off us and once they ask for shipping i can say that’s your issue, you just asked for a monitor us -> eu

[crisp patrol]

[bitter oar]

because then it isn’t $30 keyboard

[worldly garden]

That is really subjective

[bitter oar]

it is but if you want to help you should include the shipping costs, or so they’re aware

someone might not be aware they might pay just $15 for shipping on a $30 keyboard

for example, they’re used to amazon

[worldly garden]

I helped at my best, if they want to look at dinky keyboards recommendations they should seek you

And expect them to die in 2 weeks

[bitter oar]

isn’t that an exaggeration?

[bitter oar]

then recommend them something else if you don’t want them to buy them, at $30

[worldly garden]

Thats the reality, dont say like i never witnessed them

[worldly garden]

Anything u recommend

[bitter oar]

you know, mine haven’t died, only by my fault

a person that has a working keyboard is less likely to say something than person with a broken one even then you’ll find people that have working “slop” boards saying they’re happy with them

[worldly garden]

Thocky keyboard

[worldly garden]

Dinky keyboard

[boreal rivet]

Can you please get a job

Or volunteer

All this effort can be better spent making money or helping people

[worldly garden]

Making money and buy better keybort

Such as a realforce

[bitter oar]

isn’t taking effort to recommend something to someone technically a help? so they son’t have to waste money on which people have to work for

[silent otter]

i am upset when ppl dont give me good advice man!

[boreal rivet]

Help people that actually need it lmao

[silent otter]

they aint crappy tho crodie

[silent otter]

i have ips ye

[worldly garden]

i had one right here rn

it is indeed dinky

[silent otter]

Lets see

[crisp patrol]

they suck

[silent otter]

if there are multiple videos praising and recommending it

like u saying it suck

what are u comparing it to

[worldly garden]

atlast, its ur money just buy it

and dont complain about it when they have any issues

[bitter oar]

how though?

[crisp patrol]

people recommend razer products all the time lmao

and corsair

[boreal rivet]

by volunteering?????

[silent otter]

razer products are great nowadasy

[boreal rivet]

only the mice really

[silent otter]

i dont have exp with the kb

but yea mice r gfreat

[worldly garden]

until u experience something better

[silent otter]

thjeres always something better

im talking about what is great in tier

[crisp patrol]

not even

[boreal rivet]

yes even

[worldly garden]

yes in that tier

[crisp patrol]

dav3 and maybe the viper are the only decent ones

[worldly garden]

my baslisk mice mcu died a while back

[crisp patrol]

rest are bricks

• synapse sucks

[worldly garden]

synapse is literally trojan

[crisp patrol]

me buying a mouse with everything baked in so software is no concern at all

[bitter oar]

okay… for example

[boreal rivet]

in the same way gpx and dex are the only good mice logitech make

[boreal rivet]

how am I supposed to know what volunteering opportunities are in your country tf?

[crisp patrol]

dav3 is actually somewhat competitive excluding the thick ass cable

and relatively heavy weight

and viper just has hella aftermarket mod support apparently

at least the v2 does

[bitter oar]

i don’t have that much spare time for volunteering..

[worldly garden]

i disagree

u have time to yap here

[bitter oar]

totalling, i would have to go somewhere and i don’t feel like picking up trash for people that aren’t grateful or insult you when you ask them why they’re throwing junk on the ground when there’s a trash bin next to them

[worldly garden]

can't you understand the definition of 'volunteer'

[bitter oar]

i don’t want to, and i don’t have option to take care for animals for example

[worldly garden]

no words for you then

[static pilot]

well i contacted razer about my keyboard issue from a month or so ago and they are gonna send me a replacement YAY

this issue

[bitter oar]

i don’t consistently have free spare time don’t you understand?

[worldly garden]

no one asked you to do a volunteer activity consistently

[bitter oar]

i do throw junk into trash when i see someone throw a snickers wrap or something on the ground that it hasn’t been stepped on 20 times

[bitter oar]

most of them involve no?

if they expect you to come in at a certain time and you don’t?

or cancel it

[worldly garden]

just spend a morning once in a while instead of wasting time in discord and promoting bad products

[bitter oar]

if someone needs taking care of it’s not nice to just cancel them out

[bitter oar]

bad products for you*

then if you don’t want me to recommend “bad products” then please recommend something apporiate

[boreal rivet]

you can just say you don't want to volunteer and typing in discord is easier

if you really want to help someone you would just do it

not make excuses

[bitter oar]

instead of calling people stupid or in the better case not giving them any recommendation or one that does not fit their needs which includes budget.

[bitter oar]

you know, this week i had ottis media in both ears and i was almost deaf (i could still hear loud noises) on my left ear at times*

[bitter oar]

then give me examples what i should volunteer in

[static pilot]

bad news is i wont have a keyboard for a bit of time

well kinda

i have an old dell keyboard though that still works LOL

[boreal rivet]

Are you so out of touch that you need people to tell you examples of volunteering work?

How about a nursing home for a start

[bitter oar]

yes, it is easier to type someone when they ask for help

[bitter oar]

doesn’t that require me to come there consistently?

[boreal rivet]

why don't you call one up and ask

[bitter oar]

fine

[patent belfry]

lmfao

[timid pivot]

hello people

question

keychron switches

what's the deal with the color types, what's the difference with each ?

I'm looking to get a K10 and I know nothing of keyboard specs so far

[worldly garden]

Red = linear
Brown = tactile
Blue = clicky

Linear gave you a smooth typing experience

[timid pivot]

clicky, I kinda understand

[worldly garden]

Whilst browns gave you better feeling sonce they have a bit of bunp while pressing

Clciky is literally browns but louder

Plus dont get keychron k serires

[timid pivot]

I think I understand but since I've been using the same couple cheapass keyboards for the past 10 years, it's a bit abstract hahaha

[worldly garden]

Atleast Q or V serires

[worldly garden]

Fair fair

[timid pivot]

what's wrong with them ?

[worldly garden]

Bad p/p

[timid pivot]

?

[worldly garden]

U looking for an alice ?

[timid pivot]

nah, just a 100% kb for regular use/gaming

[worldly garden]

I see

U have a budget ?

[timid pivot]

preferably under 100€, available in france

[worldly garden]

Oh then i will be stick with keychrons

Get a q6 max

[timid pivot]

213€

and no french layout

[worldly garden]

Just do ansi 😭

Anyway what does ur vendor offer ?

Since i looked up keychron official site they are out of stock on iso fr

[timid pivot]

K10 Pro (only red)
https://keychron.fr/products/keychron-k10-pro-qmk-via-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-iso-layout-collection?variant=39597115867265
K10 wireless (red, brown, white or RGB backlight)
https://keychron.fr/products/keychron-k10-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-france-iso-fr-layout?variant=39646029250689
V6 Max (gateron jupiter red, brown, yellow)
https://keychron.fr/products/keychron-v6-max-qmk-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard-iso-layout-collection?variant=40037113168001

those are the models I have available and the switches in stock

[timid pivot]

what's yellow ?

[worldly garden]

Linear but other color

[timid pivot]

ok

[timid pivot]

...what's the point since it's under the cap ??

[worldly garden]

Yeah, no point at all

😂

My linear switch stem is white

Or whatever color else

[worldly garden]

Get the v6

[timid pivot]

https://keychron.fr/products/keychron-v6-max-qmk-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard-iso-layout-collection?variant=40037113200769
https://keychron.fr/products/keychron-k10-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-france-iso-fr-layout?variant=39638240493697

hesitating between those two configs

[worldly garden]

V6

[timid pivot]

what are the top keys above the numpad for ?

[worldly garden]

Which

[fiery pulsar]

he probably means those where the ps buttons are

and normally those buttons are smth like screen up or print smth

[timid pivot]

yeah those

[fiery pulsar]

sometimes this

sometimes other functions depends on the keyboard

[worldly garden]

Just some novelties

[bitter oar]

do not buy keychron K series, especially non pro/ non max which don’t have qmk, V is totally fine

[timid pivot]

what's QMK ?

jfc, 25€ for the switch puller ??

[bitter oar]

it’s a chip + firmware, some keyboards do support it, some don’t, it’s pretty much the best firmware/software for keyboards

[timid pivot]

oh cool
I was going to pick the V6 anyways, got a couple features I preferred over the K10

[bitter oar]

do not pay more than €2 for them

[timid pivot]

keychron's switch puller tool is 25€, that's crazy

the crystal clear keyboard cover looks neat but let's be real, who uses that lmfao

lube ?

what is that for ?

I don't plan on fuckin my keyboard now, why do they need lube ?

jeez, you'd think they'd gift the shipping fee for a certain amount, especially for the end of year

whatever

[timid pivot]

@bitter oar what's the lube for

[fleet scroll]

sound profile

and also feel

common on stabilisers to make them not shit

[timid pivot]

wot
I ordered a keyboard, not a subwoofer

[fleet scroll]

your keyboard makes sound

[timid pivot]

I know, I know, I'm just jesting

[timid pivot]

hm
should have I ordered some with my keyboard ?

[fleet scroll]

ur clearly geeking spelt wrong

[fleet scroll]

it’d be nice to have on the stabilisers 100%

it’s more to preference on the switches although you’d probably prefer to have it

i’m assuming you bought an mx based keyboard here

[timid pivot]

I wonder if I can find some on amazon rather than ask keychron to edit my order

[fleet scroll]

please say you bought an mx based keyboard

[fleet scroll]

ok it’s an mx based board

[timid pivot]

V6

wait lemme check

V6 Max

[timid pivot]

?

The Geek n°72

[fleet scroll]

that does indeed have mx based switches

what the fuck is a gateron jupiter banana

[timid pivot]

a waht now

[fleet scroll]

that’s what your keyboard has in it

or maybe reds

or brown

they name these things too crazy

[timid pivot]

browns

[fleet scroll]

well enjoy ur board

[timid pivot]

thanks

got meself a new PC, figured it was time to also switch out that decade old keyboard I've been using

[fleet scroll]

what decade old board was it…….

[timid pivot]

I haven't been using that keyboard for 10 years but I didn buy it 10 years ago lmao

I just forgot I had it and couldn't be arsed to buy a new one

it worked and that's pretty much all I cared for then tbh

[bitter oar]

reduce friction

what makes your keyboard scratchy

[timid pivot]

I don't even know, couldn't tell you the brand

[fleet scroll]

fail

[timid pivot]

underside sticker says alpha omega

[worldly garden]

Hi geek

[fleet scroll]

better way of wording it

[timid pivot]

[worldly garden]

Hows ur progress

[timid pivot]

on ?

[worldly garden]

On buying a keybort

[timid pivot]

oh I ordered it earlier

V6 Max

with a silicon wrist rest

[worldly garden]

Cool

Then u should be good

[timid pivot]

https://www.amazon.fr/lubrifiants-pour-clavier-GPL205-stabilisateur/dp/B09GVXMGW4

y'all reckon this is good ? got lube and tools in it

cheapo asf

[worldly garden]

Ok now u want to mod it ?

[timid pivot]

no, apparently lube is good and if I'm gonna lube the switches/stabilizers, I'll need the tools to remove the caps

[worldly garden]

Lube is not all the time good

[fleet scroll]

a stick of ram would probably work for caps

anything flat and hard really

[worldly garden]

Plus keychron provided a switch and keycap puller

[fleet scroll]

but switch pullers use little arms and it makes it way easier

[fleet scroll]

yeah pretty sure u get one included anyway

[worldly garden]

Sorry ?

[fleet scroll]

i use a stick of laptop ddr3 when i need to just pull off 1 cap quickly

[timid pivot]

if I had any dead sticks, I'd consider it but knowing that I don't, you just triggered my shock at your suggestion lmao
"sacrificing a RAM stcik for this ? are you crazy ?"

[fleet scroll]

just shove it under there

[fleet scroll]

the stick i use is probably dead now

it wasn’t before

[timid pivot]

wait really ? it comes with the keyboard ?

[fleet scroll]

should

keychron includes it in all boards iirc

i got one with an aliexpress gmk67 so it should be fine

[timid pivot]

huh

[bitter oar]

@timid pivot also, if you’re going to ever buy krytox, beware that there are so many counterfeits out there, prob more than the real thing, make sure the seller provides official document that is not fake, but the seller can reuse a real document as well and sell you the fake stuff.

[timid pivot]

what's krytox

[bitter oar]

a lube

[timid pivot]

oh ok

hm, I wonder if keychron includes some lube with the keyboard... or just the tool(s) ?

[bitter oar]

doesn’t have to be krytox just for switches

[bitter oar]

no

just the tools at most

[timid pivot]

bruh I just checked, they even got switch lube and stabilizer lube

it's 50% on sale but honestly, the fact that they went as far as branding two different lubes is crazy

[worldly garden]

Like u ever lubed a switch in ur life

[timid pivot]

lol no

[worldly garden]

Then get it

[bitter oar]

wym

[worldly garden]

U will need to redo keychron stabs, they are a bit rattle

[timid pivot]

both lubes you think ?

[bitter oar]

it’s not really a sale if they price it high in the first place

[timid pivot]

10$ per jar
-50% off
so I get both for price of one
I mean, I already spent 140€ on this, what's another 8-9

[worldly garden]

Huh 10$

What is the amount

[timid pivot]

lemme check

[bitter oar]

probs 5g

[timid pivot]

10mL for the switch lube
15mL for the stab lube

[bitter oar]

that much?

[worldly garden]

Decent price

Will last you some hundreads or maybe thousand of switches

[bitter oar]

assuming it’s good, garbage lubes tend to dry out or change in consistency with use and time

[timid pivot]

I mean, it's the keychron lube
I assume that they wouldn't sell shit with their keyboards

[bitter oar]

or simply not hold well to the plastic or give too much friction

that’s also a shitty lube

but depends what’s the use case

[bitter oar]

considering they charge that much for tools, it might well just be a rebranded chinese lube

or like even printer lube works with switches

[timid pivot]

dunno

[bitter oar]

it’s not hard to counterfeit lube

[timid pivot]

first timer here

[worldly garden]

Just get anything from kryptox and u are fine

[bitter oar]

anyways, it’s going to be fine

just don’t expect you getting good value

they still get big margins from it

[worldly garden]

Thats good value lol

Wdym

[bitter oar]

compared to legit krytox it is

but everything compared to krytox or tribosys is cheap

[timid pivot]

sure but it's not like I'd even notice the difference
even unlubed, it's probably gonna be leagues of difference from what I'm currently using anyways lol

[bitter oar]

they’re industrial grade products with whole lotta testing

[worldly garden]

Do the seller him provided has a history of selling counterfeit products

Most lube is literally kryptox, and packaging was at their end

[bitter oar]

yup

[worldly garden]

https://switchandclick.com/the-ultimate-guide-lube-your-mechanical-keyboard-switches/

These will help

[timid pivot]

lemme see that

[worldly garden]

Disclaimer : backache and eye problems are not included

[bitter oar]

it’s not hard to come by fake krytox, unless their batching is that bad i believe i’ve had fake lube from retailers too, if i had not the real thing i’d not suspect anything

[worldly garden]

Thats a you problem !

Never saw fake lubes in my life

Except some decided to libe their swotch whit vaseline

[bitter oar]

on amazon you’ll find easily

[timid pivot]

oh I already got those, don't worry

I always plan ahead

[worldly garden]

Good wisdom

[timid pivot]

do I need brushes to apply the lube ?

[worldly garden]

Yes

[bitter oar]

ideally small ones for ease of applying

like 0 / 1 brush is fine if you have

smaller better

[timid pivot]

I have zero brushes here, I'll order a couple

[bitter oar]

but takes longer time to apply

[worldly garden]

Should come included in the link u sent

[bitter oar]

yeah if you already do have zero brushes they’re fine

[worldly garden]

Brushes, opener, stem holder etc

[timid pivot]

the lube comes with tools ?
I didn't think to check what was included

[worldly garden]

Based on the link u sent they are

[bitter oar]

a zero brush should cost like a buck, opener buck or two unless you’re looking for aluminum ones those are $5+, stem holder about a buck or two too

[timid pivot]

are you sure they're not purchasable addons ?

cuz I don't read any included tools on the page

[worldly garden]

You can look up other sellers

[timid pivot]

idk who else sells keychron lube, lemme check

[bitter oar]

depends on the seller

[bitter oar]

for keychron lube likely not

but sellers that sell krytox for example sometimes do

[worldly garden]

Any other provider is fine

But here is what I found

[timid pivot]

hm

[worldly garden]

This dude will come back for a pangea fullsize for sure

[timid pivot]

a waht

[worldly garden]

https://bowlkeyboards.com/pages/pangea-full-size

[timid pivot]

page closed ?

[worldly garden]

https://minokeys.com/products/pangea

[timid pivot]

holy shit

that's pretty

[worldly garden]

Of course they are

[crisp patrol]

@patent belfry weren't you interested in this?

hhkb bottom row pretty cool

[worldly garden]

Even southpaw

[patent belfry]

the designer supports loobedswitches so thats a no from me

[timid pivot]

who ?

[patent belfry]

@crisp patrol

[worldly garden]

Seal 100 is undergoing too

[patent belfry]

looking for a bina 103

and i also bought a s60v2 today

[crisp patrol]

isn't he 15 too

maybe he'll grow up lmao

[patent belfry]

not sure

[crisp patrol]

I remember hearing bowl is like 15-16

[patent belfry]

dont really care, no communication with buyers and shitty business practices are enough for me to not place orders

[main narwhal]

I forgot how old the mekanisk guy was when he started

But I think he was around that age too lol

[patent belfry]

mekanisk stayed in their lane

and did the right things

[crisp patrol]

[worldly garden]

Qk full sized

[patent belfry]

cannot wait to see what pc hhkb with blanks will look like

[patent belfry]

those are all boards that i dont really see myself ever using

there are better options on the market

[worldly garden]

Oh such as ?

[main narwhal]

I remember him telling a story about not having a drivers license and having to bring packages with fjells by bicycle to the post lol

[worldly garden]

I dont know much about full sized

[patent belfry]

bina, fossil, spfs, kangaroo

literally kbd19x

[main narwhal]

I member gondolindrim talking about doing like an Alice hhkb lol

[patent belfry]

nah i got a crazy hhkb deal just a bit ago

[main narwhal]

What was it?

[patent belfry]

Sho S60 (v2) - PC top & white alu bottom, alu plate, pro2 domes, springs, RF housings/sliders, ivory blank keycaps, #3 silencing rings. (never built) $250 shipped

from a friend

just need to buy pcb and a controller

[main narwhal]

Naisu

[patent belfry]

so stoked on this one

[worldly garden]

Ahh yes this one

[main narwhal]

I kinda wanted to see if I could make topre domes work in that custom that niz was doing