peripherals

[open fulcrum]

Yeah, the part I noticed it the most was the arrow keys

[crisp patrol]

buy gmk or at least something like xmi

xmi is on aliexpress for pretty cheap iirc and they seem to be ok quality

[open fulcrum]

Ahh

[worldly garden]

I will buy new switches first

Who tf still use cream yellows v3 in 2024 except prebuilts

[crisp patrol]

just buy mx clears

[open fulcrum]

I might wait a bit, although what would be a good option?

Not sure if I should try another switch type tho

[worldly garden]

It is not bad, but there are way a lot more better options

[open fulcrum]

Oh yeah, definitely

[worldly garden]

Buy hmx kd200

[open fulcrum]

I probably could have gotten a better value build if I spent a bit more time deciding I feel

[worldly garden]

🥱

[crisp patrol]

just buy any cherry switch and swap springs

[worldly garden]

They arent that deep

Got offered a trade from my kalih in to a l+f hb with spring swap

[open fulcrum]

I would assume most places are fine to buy them from? Once I decide to buy them

No idea when that would be tho

[worldly garden]

Iirc u are from EU right

[open fulcrum]

America

[worldly garden]

Even better

I will start to find deals in MM if i were you

[open fulcrum]

Alright

[open fulcrum]

I just had a question relating to this, what exactly is a sweet spot in keycaps where they aren’t super expensive, but also aren’t crap quality, if the question makes sense

Since I’m not sure how much I should expect to spend

[crisp patrol]

@cunning anvil do you have any of your ergo boards in a raised/tented position?

[open fulcrum]

Like $20-50? $50-100? I feel like at some point the cost comes at a difference that’s not super noticeable, or for sets that are made at a higher rate, some are just more expensive because they simply don’t produce a lot of them, meaning to make a profit you need to sell them at a higher cost

[spiral mica]

depends on manufacturer

[cunning anvil]

nah

[spiral mica]

I have had taobao keycaps that were like 30 and decent quality

and then there is meletrix keycaps for like 100 and are shit

[crisp patrol]

is it really even necessary

[cunning anvil]

more into ortho for the straight ness

[crisp patrol]

hm

[open fulcrum]

So I guess I should stick more around the 30-50 range then?

[cunning anvil]

like teeth

[spiral mica]

if you like the design, go for it

honestly not much difference between pbt keycaps quality

[crisp patrol]

where do you usually have your punctuation marks at?

[cunning anvil]

somewhere? which one

[crisp patrol]

comma, apostrophe, question mark, period

the common ones

[open fulcrum]

Ahh ok, I might have asked this already, but what are some good websites for keycaps?

[boreal rivet]

Realforce comes with great pbt dyesub

[open fulcrum]

💀💀

[spiral mica]

your local vendor

and aliexpress

[open fulcrum]

Fakeforce is better

There’s no arguing against it

[boreal rivet]

Nah realforce is better

[open fulcrum]

Prove it, does your realforce come with gold keycaps?

And a gold board?

[open fulcrum]

Ahh, so most websites then?

[cunning anvil]

realforce comes in rowstag options only D:

[boreal rivet]

Gold keycaps are stupid

[open fulcrum]

Real gamers know it increases your gaming performance all around by 1500%

[cunning anvil]

which board

[open fulcrum]

That’s being 0.1% lows, the average frame rate, resolution, latency (all the way down to -5 ms), etc

Totally not some crap I made up

[cunning anvil]

40 keys

@crisp patrol

30 keys

bit messy

i dont have a pretty graphic for 20 yet

[crisp patrol]

small

I was gonna go for something like a 6x4 probably

or similar

so punctuation would be more towards the side

[worldly garden]

Agreed

[cunning anvil]

per hand?

[worldly garden]

Well most enthusiast sticks to gmk, which ứa pretty pricey for newbie

However gmk price has dropping down lately

[crisp patrol]

yeah

with a thumb cluster ofc

[cunning anvil]

thumb cluster is part of r4?

or 4x6+thumbs

[crisp patrol]

this

[cunning anvil]

oh

neat

[open fulcrum]

Ahh

[open fulcrum]

Also with clones, do I try to avoid or no?

Or does it really depend on you personally? Like if you are morally fine with buying a set of clone keycaps or not

[spiral mica]

this

[mystic dune]

anyone know about the GAS67?

[worldly garden]

well there is a lot of people using clone keycaps, including me

soemtimes, cmk sets quality seems to be inconsitent

[worldly garden]

outmeta kit

[woeful hinge]

someone find me plate B for dz60 rgb ansi v2 pcb and ill give u a reward

aluminum preferably

https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-cnc-aluminum-plate

PLATE B

they only have

plate A

so yea

whoever finds it gets a very good reward

[worldly garden]

u want a plate file of this keyboard ?

[spiral mica]

get one custom made

[woeful hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/doflamingo-zehef-gif-27144421

no

thats not what i asked

[woeful hinge]

why

[spiral mica]

you were trying to find a plate for a board but couldnt

easiest way is just to get one custom made

[woeful hinge]

and i challenged this server to find it

and u will be rewarded

[woeful hinge]

from where

[spiral mica]

https://www.aliexpress.com/i/2251832794198597.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt

https://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com

ik some taobao store can do it with just a picture but you have to nkow chinese to use tb

[worldly garden]

i found a seller

from my local community

in 2017

😂

[woeful hinge]

show me

[worldly garden]

as i said

its since forever

[woeful hinge]

idc

show me

[worldly garden]

🤷

do whatever u want with it then

[spiral mica]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256801899849791.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt

literally like

1 min of googling

https://ymdkey.com/products/60-aluminum-brass-steel-plate-for-dz60-gh60-xd64-yd64mq

or from ymdk

[woeful hinge]

i dont read that language

idk if its plate B

[woeful hinge]

ok well

[worldly garden]

not my problem

🥱

u get what u asked for

[woeful hinge]

hold on

[spiral mica]

honestly have you considered

using something called a browser

[woeful hinge]

we dont even know if ithats plate B

[woeful hinge]

yea

couldnt find it

[spiral mica]

well I found like

more than 5 websites selling it

within a min

[worldly garden]

this is the plate b u are looking for

🥱

good times where people use dz60 pcbs and custom made case

ahh

[woeful hinge]

its not saying if its plate B

or A

[spiral mica]

just

look at it?

what even is the difference

[woeful hinge]

prove its plate B

[woeful hinge]

NO

Thats not how this works

it needs to say plate B

[worldly garden]

u should prove your age verification first, lol

[spiral mica]

thats not how it works?

if it has 2 plates

[woeful hinge]

how

[spiral mica]

it would look different

[woeful hinge]

u want my D

[worldly garden]

are u just messing around buddy

[woeful hinge]

ID

[spiral mica]

and if it looks different

[spiral mica]

you caan see the difference

[woeful hinge]

See how it says plate b

[spiral mica]

and the difference is the shift size

[woeful hinge]

tf u mena

messing

[worldly garden]

u can buy from website provided by pig and see it for yourself

[woeful hinge]

around

[spiral mica]

who cares whats the plate called bruh

[woeful hinge]

i did see

not buy

but i saw

[spiral mica]

^

its literally

shown

in the

website

maybe try using your scrollwheel

[woeful hinge]

i see only plate a

[spiral mica]

2.25 is plate B

and 2u is plate A

[woeful hinge]

which site

ali

or the second one

[spiral mica]

idk

just choose whichever you waqnt

I like ymdk stuff

but its more expensive (prob)

[woeful hinge]

pig

[worldly garden]

pangea mini gb opened ?

[woeful hinge]

i would like to apologize

i did google but i didnt know left shift 2.25 is b

um

well heres your reward

[spiral mica]

thats crazy

should I go for ergo clear or mx black

[worldly garden]

i would drop a sanji kcik into ur face if i see u around king

[spiral mica]

I have a custom k10 pro coming and thinking what I should swap the gat brown out for

[worldly garden]

hb

[woeful hinge]

u cant kick me

im too tall

have u seen me

boi

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-kasai-no-kingu-king-the-wildfire-king-one-piece-gif-5686607617361622438

[spiral mica]

honestly l+f+swap 100+ cherry sounds like pain

[worldly garden]

send it to a modder u will be fine

[spiral mica]

but I cant think of any switch that would work with metal plate and hollow case

[worldly garden]

foam it

[woeful hinge]

no

dont foam it

[worldly garden]

at last is a keychron

[woeful hinge]

double foam it

[worldly garden]

what do u expect

even k series

[spiral mica]

its tray mount

and last time I tried to foam my other/old k10

I broke the standoff

so uh

[woeful hinge]

message thjs seller and tell him to meet me

[spiral mica]

not risking it again

[spiral mica]

bruh like he said

[worldly garden]

silicone fill

[woeful hinge]

lofree better

[spiral mica]

its from 2017

[woeful hinge]

im trolling

u ruined it

dammit

i was gunna ask for the seller name and location and then just tell him im not even living there

[spiral mica]

maybe

or maybe I can get custom foam off tb

[woeful hinge]

what are the best stabs

tell me now

[spiral mica]

cherry clip in with c3 wire

[woeful hinge]

also ws browns vs boba t4us vs glorious pandas

[woeful hinge]

im told Tx stabs r better

[spiral mica]

maybe

[worldly garden]

<@&750150305383186585> trolls ^^

[spiral mica]

I hate tx myself

so inconsistent

[woeful hinge]

mods

he threatned violence on me

[woeful hinge]

wait why

hurry

before im banned

tell me

[worldly garden]

🥱

[spiral mica]

^

[worldly garden]

yikb type plus

or knight stab

[woeful hinge]

i alr got my answer

[spiral mica]

this

[worldly garden]

some new stuff seems promising

[spiral mica]

I forgot they existed

[worldly garden]

my friends is replacing staebies v2.1 with them

[woeful hinge]

u fool u tagged mods but yet ur helping me

muahahhah

thanks

[spiral mica]

they are actually so good

dont tick despite the wire not (very) balanced

[worldly garden]

staebies notorius feature

being so stagnation

🥱

[spiral mica]

I honestly suck at tuning stabs

[worldly garden]

im not a fan

@woeful hinge yap now and u have 10 years of nitro boost

oh i forgot u didnt

i mean u cant

[worldly garden]

yeah same, i only do it once in a while

[spiral mica]

main reason I prefer owlstab over most other stabs

I dont need to tune the wire

[worldly garden]

i usually dont have hours to tune stabs, i just send my keyboard to a local modder

5 bucks he do the job

[spiral mica]

good for you

I dont got no local modder

[worldly garden]

ahh thats sucks

they are just everywhere here

[spiral mica]

its a pretty niche hobby at where I live

but hey at least I got access to taobao which is just 🤌

[worldly garden]

😁

vendors import chinese board directly here

yesterday they annouced another cheap crappy ass HE keyboard\

aula win 60 something

for 17$

[spiral mica]

honestly so many cheap he boards in china now

even cheaper than mx boards

shame I hate how HE feels and sounds

[worldly garden]

They are tech wised than type feeling and sound

We have other priorities than people buying HE boards and that isnt a problem

[spiral mica]

honestly dont think any normie would be able to notice that small difference between he and other types of switch

kinda just a hype

[worldly garden]

It is indeed a fomo

My friend wanted one and i tried my best to pursue him

😔

[cursive mirage]

Why did I get pinged from here?

[worldly garden]

Turn off this channel notis then

[cursive mirage]

It was.

[open fulcrum]

Ahh ok

[molten rock]

is an epomaker x aula f75 a good keyboard?

[bitter oar]

under $45 it’s decent

[molten rock]

ok, and what other keyboards do you recommend??

[bitter oar]

like hi75 kit + keycaps and switches of your choice

from aliexpress you can get like keycaps for a dollar with welcome deal

and for switches well, watch like soundtests of what you like

[charred plank]

I think Amazon might still have some built hi75 for like $50

[bitter oar]

cheap’ish switches include hmx

[boreal rivet]

realforce is better

[molten rock]

and this one

[bitter oar]

sure

[worldly garden]

Im starting to wonder if you are aliexpress seeder or smth

[bitter oar]

zamn fr fr

$1 for pbt keycaps though?

[worldly garden]

I will stick to anything else

Thank you

[bitter oar]

they’re fine, just poor printing as expected, otherwise pbt doubleshot and haven’t heard people complaining about warp on that specific set

it is $4 now though unfortunaly

they’re 1.5mm thick

[worldly garden]

Im not building a muted keyboard man

[bitter oar]

i’m not recommending them to you though ikr you can afford better than those

they’re cheap, that’s about it but usable.

[worldly garden]

One of my first board use first gen cmk aifei keycaps and they are just muted lol

Thanks to their thickness

[bitter oar]

i mean some people do like muted keyboards, really about preference

[worldly garden]

Saying the whole trying to avoid getting their keyboard sound muted

Intentionally built to be silent it’s different

[bitter oar]

i mean i said they’re good for $1, i haven’t said they’re comparable to $25+ keycaps

on low budget

they do the job

[worldly garden]

If u say so, a kohaku and a logitech k120 both do the same job : typing

Is about the experience

[bitter oar]

do the job while not being shitty, like the downsides to the caps are if you don’t like 1.5mm (which is standard thickness for pbt keycaps) and the printing, they’re still pbt and not abs

free shipping as well

they will not make a keyboard sound horrible or such

[worldly garden]

Then get it yourself

They will look like ass imo

[bitter oar]

there are reviews on ali for them with pics and members in different sever bought them the printing is ass yes but again $1, you’re paying more just to get a different color scheme and better printing on more expensive sets that are pbt 1.5mm

the texture seems normal as well, it may as well be manufactured from the same fab as the other chinese sets

you’re still getting the pbt material that’s more resistant to shine

[worldly garden]

Oh if they are all shined together i love it

[bitter oar]

the printing is readable so

[worldly garden]

Still, it does not reflect that their quality is acceptable in my standards

And most people here

If u are happy with a 1$ keycap set that works, good for you

I wont get and never ever recommend it to anybody

I believe there is barely anyone spent only a dollar for a keycaps set

Even if they are new to the hobby or not

[bitter oar]

for alot of people it is fine

especially when it’s a $1 product, like that’s nothing

in the worst case if they don’t like the caps they can sell them used or throw them away

[bitter oar]

yes but when there are people asking for whole keyboards that extra money can get them something better that’s saved on keycaps if they already have purchased a barebone kit

people do often ask for cheap switches

that money they saved can be used on better switches

for example

[worldly garden]

Well if they are that tight like ur situation u are giving out i always suggest them to save more, why have to risk ur money, ur time and ur experience for a “1$ keycap set”

U cant just buy a keyboard just by saving ur pocket money

[bitter oar]

well but this way they should save for everything… why buy a $500 pc? just save for a $1500, you can do this with pretty much everything. with $1 keycaps you’re not getting major compromises as with other stuff

[worldly garden]

U will spend a lot of time and money to get proper stuff, and the keycaps set u mentioned cannot go along with it

[worldly garden]

So u are trying to tell me to get a 1$ keycaps set over a gmk keycaps set, how fantastic

[bitter oar]

if someone asks with X budget, telling them to save or ration their money stuff because of better keycaps instead of letting them enjoy the $1 (which they wouldn’t likely even care about the printing all that much),

[worldly garden]

How about dont spend anything at all, and save yourself from troubles

[bitter oar]

if they don’t have money yes, who would buy gmk set when their personal budget per year for pc parts and peripherals let’s say is $500/y

spending $50++ on just keycaps with such budget is not ideal

[bitter oar]

i hate this type of response

trouble with pieces of plastic for $1?

[worldly garden]

Buy something properly or just dont buy anything at all

As i said, hobbies such as keyboards arent cheap

Tbh no hobbies is cheap lol

As u go deeper into it

[bitter oar]

buy a 4090 and 9800x3d then, don’t buy anything else with this sense

4090 is a proper high end card

why buy lcd’s when you can buy much better oleds at $500++

[worldly garden]

Well my demands doesnt need that much horsepower

I dont even play games a lot

[bitter oar]

exactly, same thing goes for keycaps

not everyone cares about some small printing errors

[worldly garden]

Pfft, u gave me an e waste and expect me to use it

[bitter oar]

if they say “i don’t like these keycaps” when i do show ‘em then fine i accept that

you’re phrasing stuff as if showing someone $1 keycaps is a crime and they’re total garbage

[worldly garden]

Is not a crime

But total garbage yes

[bitter oar]

again your sense is wrong

you can say the 4080s is garbage in comparison to the 4090

[worldly garden]

I got my hand on that kind of cheap keycaps , did you ?

[bitter oar]

because it doesn’t perform as good as the 4090

[worldly garden]

Sorry buddy, if u want to compare like that, ur keycap set is literally i3 2100

With radeon hd 7600

What is wrong with you ? Why u are so obsessed with budget products ?

Why dont you tey to aim for higher products

[bitter oar]

do the keycaps turn shitty after a while? or make you unable to do work?

[worldly garden]

Yes

[bitter oar]

wow

[bitter oar]

because that’s where most people focus… value

[worldly garden]

Based on my personal experience with them ( i got it for free for a meme build ) yeah

I disgusted them lmao

[worldly garden]

If u say so, they arent the best value-price keycaps

[bitter oar]

or rather why people are obsessed with overspending for the “best” keycaps

[worldly garden]

I have to say 1 more time, keyboards as a hobby doesnt cheap, if u cant afford it, then save up, dont have to try to squeeze in with low quality chinese products

[bitter oar]

no, that’s what you’re saying. your opinion. not a fact.

[worldly garden]

Thats a fact, you just dont accept it

[bitter oar]

what you’re saying that the hobby is gatekeeped, anyone not having invested X amount of money into it makes you not being officially on the hobby even if you did spend alot of time in it

you should just google what the term hobby is

[worldly garden]

No no hang on 😂

To be fair, no one is joining this hobby using a keycaps set for a hick, unless they are unaware

To a lot of people, my keyboard is considered a “budget build”

Im fine w it

[bitter oar]

what’s the difference between you spending 200 hours building cheap keyboards and expensive ones?

i see too often that people with cheap boards or “meme boards” do not belong in the hobby

[worldly garden]

If they are aware that their board is a memeboard then i can conclude they are in for a while

And my board is cheap

Neo65 lowest spec is 99.99

[bitter oar]

hobby is a hobby, that you dislike what they’re doing does not mean it’s not a hobby

[worldly garden]

I gave out my opinions, to me a dollar keycaps set is bad, and absolute trash

[modest condor]

some people dont see it as a hobby and just want a decent keyboard

[worldly garden]

And i did remember i said if u love it, good for you

I hate the keycaps set, not the people using it

[bitter oar]

if someone collects 100 cheapshit gaming headphones they’re still in the hobby of collecting headphones, no matter if they think those headphones are good or bad.

[worldly garden]

[crisp patrol]

if you want value then buy og de doubleshots

[worldly garden]

Being called a gatekeeper after trying to persue someone “a 1$ keycap set is bad”

[bitter oar]

i do not disagree with your opinion, but for most people it’s not a fact when they’re on tight budget

[worldly garden]

Damn bro i got no high ends in my collection yet

[bitter oar]

for some people a 4060 may be very valuable asset, someone may call it trash because they can afford a 4090

[worldly garden]

1$ and 300$ is different

[modest condor]

me!

[worldly garden]

All u know is nothing outside of aliexpress crap anyway

[crisp patrol]

4060 is shit value

unless it's the lp ver

[bitter oar]

it applies for pretty much any range, you know someone might want a keyboard for recycle center because they can’t afford barely anything

[worldly garden]

3070>4060

[bitter oar]

if you want new and cuda they’re fine

efficiency

[crisp patrol]

"""fine"""

[bitter oar]

not everyone does just gaming

and not everyone’s electricity is cheap

[crisp patrol]

3080s are $300

[worldly garden]

Do they get it because they want to join the keyboard hobby ?

“Oh these custom keyboard is cool, lets go to craiglist”

[crisp patrol]

no shit

[bitter oar]

i’ve been working with tens of chinese boards, i do not really have reason other than curiosity and to recommend them when i find them good

if someone asks for a $500 keyboard i don’t recommend a $100 keyboard

[worldly garden]

Yo bro genuine question what is the thockoest keyboard for gaming, my chirstmas money is 500 bucks

[bitter oar]

unless they’re about to spend less on more important parts

[worldly garden]

wwrong inages lmao

[bitter oar]

i don’t know unfortunately cause i don’t focus on those

[worldly garden]

Talking about recycle center

[bitter oar]

and recommending someone like that just to give them answer

i usually just tell them to not buy razer, steelseries or such at that budget

[worldly garden]

See, u dont recommend a 100$ keyboard, u dont recommend anything at all

[bitter oar]

better than giving a wrong answer

damn

i tell them what to not buy for sure

[worldly garden]

So u just conclude yourself as not acknowledged enough about this hobby

[bitter oar]

wtf?

you’re literally just gatekeeping rn

[worldly garden]

I dont use 500$ keyboard, but i know the answer to that question

U do not

[bitter oar]

you’re basicly asking me to do research for a value $500 board, again i mostly focus on $30-100

that does not make me excluded from the hobby

[crisp patrol]

gmk laser lmao

[bitter oar]

i still invested time into it

[worldly garden]

Aight budget cutter

[crisp patrol]

that range is for cheap slop boards that people buy just to have something to type on

or vint boards if you find good deals

ik you don't do vint shit

[worldly garden]

He aint know shit about vints dont mention it here

[bitter oar]

you’ll find so many people on the internet upgrading from the “gaming” slop to the budget custom slop lol, it’s your preference you don’t like those boards

you have the budget for better

that does not make the cheaper stuff slop

[crisp patrol]

slop 🥱

[worldly garden]

“Typed out using womier sk75”

[bitter oar]

in terms of upgrade going from a $20 to a $100 keyboard is much more significant than $100 to a good $500 one

[crisp patrol]

thocked on 2008 hhkb pro2

[bitter oar]

there is this thing called diminishing returns

[crisp patrol]

$100->$500 is a pretty big leap I'd say

[bitter oar]

it is but not as big as $20 to $100

[crisp patrol]

[worldly garden]

Ur math isnt mathing

[crisp patrol]

primlocked in the keeb hobby is wild

over here typing on rocks and shit

[worldly garden]

Never aimed for better products, living on the aliexpress cave

[crisp patrol]

my gmk set was $140 total from oblo

[bitter oar]

$20 will barely get you hotswap, if you’re lucky lubed switches and if you’re lucky 2x pbt keycaps, no aluminum, like any dampening if you’re lucky

[crisp patrol]

already 4x your normal budget

[worldly garden]

Tester68 is hotswap

And they are like 5

[bitter oar]

yeah, that’s what i’d call slop really if you can afford better

most people don’t like rattly stabilizers, i mean you can tune them but you don’t get that on $100 boards, scratchy switchess and such

[worldly garden]

Give me 20, i will build anything that better than what u are typing on

[worldly garden]

Isnt most cherry switches is scratchy stock @crisp patrol

And my kalih bcp got slight scratch which u hate

But to me its a touch to my build

[crisp patrol]

dunno I haven't tried any unused cherry switches

all ik is that stock springs suck

[bitter oar]

better sound wise? typing experience wise?

[worldly garden]

Saw the old/trash black i sent earlier

[crisp patrol]

I have something similar yes

[worldly garden]

Disclaimer: good to me doesnt mean its good to you

[bitter oar]

just send me whatever you like

unless you message something that’s just trolling

[crisp patrol]

20 bucks is what my switches cost

[worldly garden]

But is hiss entire fortune

I spent 35 on switches for my neo

[worldly garden]

Go outside and experience more keyboards from more experienced hobbyists ( u can find them in meet ups), ur perspective might change

Instead of scrolling through aliexpress for 12.12 deals

And free shipping coupons

[crisp patrol]

what switches

[worldly garden]

Kalih

[crisp patrol]

[worldly garden]

Like 0.42 each or so

Kalih bcp

[crisp patrol]

geon has purples for .38 each

[worldly garden]

If i need some changes i will buy hb

Similar price

[chrome raft]

so thocky

[worldly garden]

Im an elite now, for saying a 1$ keycap set is bad

Elitsm on top

[chrome raft]

aliexpress warriors piss me.off

[bitter oar]

i did

i have visited a friend that has more keyboards than i can count

my perspective won’t change towards not respecting people with budget

[bitter oar]

they’re auto applied, only thing to check for are store coupons, takes 5 seconds

[crisp patrol]

visit thocctober

[bitter oar]

also just completely ignore the price reguctions they claim i agree on that aliexpress is fishy in that

[bitter oar]

that would cost m hundreds traveling to america

canada mb

well, the N american continent

[open fulcrum]

Technically Canada is America

Although they don’t really call themselves Americans, because that typically refers to those in the us

[open fulcrum]

That can’t be good

$1 keycaps have to be terrible

Or if not terrible, not great

[open fulcrum]

Also, is gmk a brand? Or is it just a type of keycap?

Or both

[crisp patrol]

brand

[chrome raft]

https://kbdfans.com/products/gt-80-case
here you go @poors

[open fulcrum]

Ahh

[charred plank]

Actually looks cool

[coral ferry]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/812BgeR4qHL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

#gaming

I got it for 6 dollars at goodwill. It's gonna be for the computer at work. The one we have now has a really annoyingly stiff 0 key

[open fulcrum]

Probably thinking about it too early, but would dye sub keycaps be fine? Or is double shot preferable?

Assuming they are both pbt obviously

(Since pbt seems better than abs for keycaps)

[spiral mica]

depends

they are very similar but dye sub has less sharp legends

not a huge difference

[open fulcrum]

Ahh

So I guess it really depends on how picky you are with smaller details, assuming the legends aren’t just super super blurry anyway

Although as others said, I should probably upgrade my switches first

(Since the Akko cream yellow v3 pros are outdated or something, but not terrible)

[boreal rivet]

Just buy a realforce

[spiral mica]

dye sub can achieve more complicated novelty keys

at the trade off of slightly more blurry legends

[open fulcrum]

Interesting

Now the keycaps I got are starting to wear off on me, or the looks are, if the original plan (getting a white board) went through, I think it would have been better looking

[open fulcrum]

Something like this set might work on a black board well tho

[boreal rivet]

Everyone should buy a realforce

[open fulcrum]

I’m buying a fakeforce right now

[boreal rivet]

Sure if you buy the gx1

No

[boreal rivet]

Feel free to waste your money

Or maybe not since you’ve been looking to buy a new keyboard for like 2 months

[open fulcrum]

They are way cheaper than “real” force

Actually no

I’m not getting a fakeforce

I’m getting a non-fiction force

[boreal rivet]

Google and common sense

[open fulcrum]

Or actual force, genuine force, existent force, authentic force

How about those @boreal rivet?

[boreal rivet]

Keep yapping bruh

I’m not the one who’s hasn’t decided on a keyboard after 2 months

[open fulcrum]

💀💀

[worldly garden]

thanks for ur advice

[pliant nacelle]

phew for a second i thought it was a fake mechanical keyboard

that was a close one

[broken vale]

you know what I don't understand about keychron or nuphy or similar brands?

why the heck add RGB if the keycaps are not transparent

what's the point to have RGB if you cannot even see it in the dark

their keyboards are so fricking good but this annoying detail breaks everything

[worldly garden]

Aesethic pleasing

If u dont want rgb turn it off

[fiery acorn]

just got the white version of the ROG Azoth and I love

it makes setup look pwetty

[stoic steppe]

Alright so I am looking for a keyboard anything got something similar to this. I am willing to go up to around 100$

I ideally want a 75% or 80%

80% is preferable but I know there aren’t many options

Can go a bit higher than 100$ if it is a significantly better product

[worldly garden]

day 2903812398038 telling people to get an evo80

[stoic steppe]

Not even close to 100$

[worldly garden]

180

i think so

[stoic steppe]

Yeah that ain’t close to 100$

[worldly garden]

.

[stoic steppe]

A bit higher isn’t 180% the price

I know it is 80$ but like it’s a Christmas present and 180$ for a gift is a lot

[worldly garden]

alright u got a point

[stoic steppe]

Already asking for a 120$ mouse which they thought was a bit pricy

[worldly garden]

do u prefer a prebuilt

or smth u could build rom a scratch

[stoic steppe]

I’d rather a prebuilt

[worldly garden]

https://www.wobkey.com/products/crush80

had one for myself, pretty solid for its price

[stoic steppe]

Is there an option that is true black

[spiral mica]

infi75

[worldly garden]

External keycaps

And u are good

[sand pagoda]

Any good 80% keyboards around $100? Preferably hot swappable, I’m indifferent to RGB, I’m fine if it’s a kit that I have to put together, and I’d like it to not be super tall in the front

[patent belfry]

no

[boreal rivet]

Realforce

[lost lodge]

Howdy

[lost lodge]

I am back

Production of the WOB (ansi version) didn't even start yet so I'm still waiting for the Monsgeek m1 v5

Im starting to get a bit impatient and am thinking about other options with pretty much the same specs

[worldly garden]

Howdy back

Im lee

[lost lodge]

Any recommendations for $140 USD? 💀

[worldly garden]

[lost lodge]

Wassup

I was this close to getting a rainy75 recently

But it doesn't have a knob

😭

[worldly garden]

Rainy is nice, personally like nd75 more

Not the brand tho

[lost lodge]

Bd as in bridge?

[worldly garden]

Foam boards are all the same, geez

[lost lodge]

Yeah but neither the bridge nor the rainy have a knob

[worldly garden]

Buy an external blob

With hotswap leg

Same thing older keychron v1 had

[lost lodge]

I just finished my exams today so I can look into Keebs again

[lost lodge]

What's a blob?

[worldly garden]

*knob

[lost lodge]

Ohhh

Wait you can do that?

[worldly garden]

Qk75n has a knob

[lost lodge]

Aren't qk boards hella expensive (not going to get it, just curious)

[spiral mica]

you can get one for arnd150

[lost lodge]

Oooo

[worldly garden]

Low end custom keyboards

[spiral mica]

doesnt work on normal board

that board is just a cursed thing

gk108

or 104

forgor

[lost lodge]

It's Bangladesh so it'll be around $250 for me after shipping

[lost lodge]

O h yes

Forgot $180 is budget for custom boards

[spiral mica]

honestly you dont rly need a knob imo

but if you rly want one

zoom65

[worldly garden]

Buy older gen m1w

Ez

Or just get a macro pad

[spiral mica]

nvm why are zoom65 v3 so expensive

[worldly garden]

Or a nunpad equipped with knobs

[lost lodge]

75%]

?*

[spiral mica]

I meant 75 but whatever

its ass

[lost lodge]

Ion need that many 😭

[worldly garden]

Exploded 75% with knob is like 2022 shit

[spiral mica]

even if the price is reduced by 50% I prob would not get zoom

[spiral mica]

more like 2024

[worldly garden]

Foamboards and only aesthetically pleasing

[lost lodge]

I'm asking a shop about that external knob thing

[spiral mica]

2022 was like gmk67 or something

[lost lodge]

What exactly do I say?

[spiral mica]

doesnt work

[worldly garden]

Nj80 ap

[spiral mica]

on normal boards

[worldly garden]

Next time 75 etc

Tester 68 ciy

[lost lodge]

Oh

Any way to ask akko/Monsgeek when they'll start producing the damn ansi layout for the m1 v5

[spiral mica]

its so overpriced

m1v5

also uh

https://www.monsgeek.com/product/m1-v5-via-rapid-disassembly/

nvm its preorder

[lost lodge]

$130 USD

[spiral mica]

at least its back to a normal(ish) price

[lost lodge]

That will age poorly if they price the ansi layout differently

The lack of budget keyboards that are trimode, 75%, aluminium and have a knob is crazy

[spiral mica]

I have no idea why m1w are priced so agressively

[lost lodge]

I think I'm weird for demanding a knob on a budget alu board with tri mode

[spiral mica]

they cost like under 40 usd to get one in china

[lost lodge]

Oh damn

How's the leobog hi8

[spiral mica]

hi75 sounds better

[lost lodge]

Heard epomaker is bad

[lost lodge]

Tri mode

[spiral mica]

eh its alright

looks better than hi75

[lost lodge]

I could do a beast of a build with a hi75 but trimode

[spiral mica]

but then I generally dont like budget alu boards

at the same price point plastic boards (if you can find one) is prob going to be better

[lost lodge]

Does tje difference in aluminum really matter all that much

[spiral mica]

besides bridge75

no

its a myth

[lost lodge]

Ah

[spiral mica]

pc kohaku legit exists and no one ever called it shit bcs its made from plastic

its just material choice

[lost lodge]

Oo

[spiral mica]

alu not always better and plastic not always worse

but its hard to find a good plastic board

[lost lodge]

But I heard $120 for plastic is a bit too much

[spiral mica]

depends on if you care about the material or not tbh

[lost lodge]

Well I want it to be a durable board as I'll use it for several years

[spiral mica]

keyboards dont rly break

[lost lodge]

Hi8 looks good but apparently epomaker is questionable

[spiral mica]

get it from aliexpress

[lost lodge]

I know but still

[lost lodge]

Delivery is crazy

I tried already

[spiral mica]

its cheap

[lost lodge]

They are cheap but the delivery/shipping is a lot

[spiral mica]

I doubt epomaker would be less tbh but

compare the difference

if difference is large then worth a shot at epomaker

[worldly garden]

@lost lodge

how about u check out international vendors

see what u like

[lost lodge]

Can you recommend some that offer free shipping

Saw that Monsgeek offers free international shipping

For orders over $50 or smth

[worldly garden]

if u reached out to me earlier 🥱 since blackfriday is just over

[lost lodge]

Damn

[patent belfry]

monsgeek sucks tho

[lost lodge]

Well I sort of got no other option because nothing really matches what I need

[patent belfry]

nobody knows what you need

[lost lodge]

_ _

[lost lodge]

Already said what I need

[patent belfry]

what's "budget" to you

[lost lodge]

Anything within $100 since that's a lot of money where I live

[patent belfry]

youre not really going to get what youre looking for

just buy a filco tkl used and move on

[lost lodge]

I never said my budget was $100

I'm looking for a board within $150

Hence me yapping about the m1 v5 so much

[patent belfry]

you just said 100$

i think at that dollar amount youre better off going to the store and buying a keyboard that you know youre going to like

[lost lodge]

My bad, I thought you asked me what budget means to me

I heard the bridge75 is a "good" board from a few friends

[patent belfry]

every few days a new 'budget' board releases and is the new "END GAME" budget board

[lost lodge]

But heard someone say it's bad

Like not bad, but not that good

[patent belfry]

it's a chinese keyboard from aliexpress or whatever. if it functions like a keyboard then i guess its ok?

[lost lodge]

I know 😭, but that's mainly why I'm looking for the perfect budget one that will last me years

[lost lodge]

Ohh

[patent belfry]

those 2 statements dont really go hand in hand

[lost lodge]

Does the Rainy75 support VIA?

[patent belfry]

no clue

i would hope so

[lost lodge]

I know I know

But all I need for it to be perfect is, a knob

And the stuff I mentioned befote

[patent belfry]

you should look for a linworks whale 75 with the knob on the used market

[lost lodge]

If I can get those, then I'll be satisfied

[spiral mica]

once again I recommend infi75 (keep out edition if you can)

[lost lodge]

That's going to be nearly impossible as the keyboard community here is pretty small

[spiral mica]

better than all other budget alu besides bridge

[lost lodge]

Yeah but I think $110 for plastic a bit too much

I'd do it if it wereike $80-85

[spiral mica]

worth it imo

[lost lodge]

I'll check it out

[spiral mica]

its not just stuffing foam into a board like most alu

[lost lodge]

But that display looks awful imo

The silver ruins the theme

[spiral mica]

infi75 lite doenst have screen

but its only on aliexpress afaik

[lost lodge]

Saw the lite a few months ago

[spiral mica]

nvm

https://www.nouvolo.com/products/infi75-lite-mechanical-keyboard?srsltid=AfmBOoo4v06KY4wzoWn1GF6ayLMSey1ScAfa96wOCx484uYAC8ZVqtGn

[lost lodge]

Being sold for $60

[spiral mica]

if you can, get the lite

same thing but without screen

[lost lodge]

I was actually going to get that but uh

My budget was tight at that time

Was like $50

And I had to skip out on it

[spiral mica]

honestly the lite version looks more interesting than my keep out edition

it has jwick bcp

[patent belfry]

limiting yourself a lot by wanting a knob

this is s sexy 75%

[lost lodge]

Yoo doesn't look bad

Actually looks good

[lost lodge]

Idk what that is but sounds fancy

[patent belfry]

its a korean made custom and actually has brass and shit

i own a red one

[spiral mica]

(prob what not you want tbh)

its a switch (type/name whatever) of a frankenswitch

the scratchier the better or something supposedly

[patent belfry]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DAriQOXuQFX/?igsh=MTNmNWozeGxsYzhiNA==

thocctober

75% >

Instagram

red non knob Version

[lost lodge]

Ohh

[lost lodge]

Reminds me of that yunzii board

A bit

[patent belfry]

lmao

idk what that is but this board was like 660 retail

[lost lodge]

I honestly dk what to do now

[lost lodge]

DOLLARS?

[patent belfry]

yeah I paid 150 for it tho

[lost lodge]

Oh wow

Teach me the ways

[patent belfry]

mechmarket dud

my only thing with that is
good and services payment only
and vet the sellers previous sales/trade

[lost lodge]

How's this

https://youtu.be/SO1IYou32wg?si=r8ExqS6VluPtdJII

[lost lodge]

Oo wow

[spiral mica]

sounds like foam

[lost lodge]

I'm sorry but what does that means 💀

[spiral mica]

sounds very generic and uh

I wouldnt say not good but nothing special

its ok-ish

or maybe its overprocessed

[lost lodge]

What about the regular Hi8 prebuilt

[spiral mica]

is that not regular

anyways most budget alu sound the same

if you want alu just choose one from the list

they are mostly just full pom/nylon switch+pc/pom plate+shit load of foam

[patent belfry]

clickclack is running that PT.1

a little more expensive than budget but i heard really good things about it

[worldly garden]

I tried the neo75 cu

Nothing special

But copper

🥱

[patent belfry]

copper does literally nothing for the sound

[worldly garden]

@charred plank soundtest when

[patent belfry]

oh here we go

[worldly garden]

He hop on that hehe

And did a thocky build

[patent belfry]

i cant wait till they all get post nut clarity

and realise they wasted money

[worldly garden]

Will snap one of them if they are 100 or under

[patent belfry]

did you see classic aarabic for 100

hella good deal

[spiral mica]

pls dont

not again

[patent belfry]

so real

[worldly garden]

Mm ?

[patent belfry]

no oblo

[worldly garden]

Aight checking

[patent belfry]

https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-cyl-classic-arabic

i got greek addon and the arabic base for hella cheap

[worldly garden]

Ay it fits

[patent belfry]

gmk getting cheaper and cheaper as the months go by

[worldly garden]

Only base kit is available 😭

[patent belfry]

what other kit would you need

[worldly garden]

Bnib metropolis for 50 locally

Indeed the price is dropping hard

[worldly garden]

Greek

[patent belfry]

greek so good

[worldly garden]

I got offered some OG cherries too

[patent belfry]

those are just 11800 lasered pbt caps

[late laurel]

Hi im looking for a new keyboard (mechanical) for about 100$. I was looking through the keychron website and they had some. Are there any other good options? ^^ Thank you in advance.

[patent belfry]

10$ max

[worldly garden]

i did not ask their prie yet

but dcs caps i got em for 15

[patent belfry]

which dcs

[worldly garden]

wyse

[patent belfry]

send pics

[patent belfry]

what are you going to do with the bottom row

not going to fit on a regular keyboard

going to have to find a moogle kit

[worldly garden]

will try to find modifiers from other sets

such as sw beige

[patent belfry]

dcs moogle

[worldly garden]

nuxros x VNMK nr6

limited production

[patent belfry]

ew lol

[worldly garden]

screw you, nuxros is cooking

their latest board gb opned gotten 1000+ quantities

[patent belfry]

that's wild to me

its kinda ugly

[worldly garden]

https://nuxroskb.store/products/krush65

[patent belfry]

yea I know what it is

[worldly garden]

vietnamese taste is off these days, they need heavy ass boards for affordable price

and nuxros ust decided to jump in that price range

[patent belfry]

love me a fat heavy keyboard

linworks my love

[worldly garden]

if i can buy a re65 premium black at a good price im selling my neo

int + out weights, fully built 2.6kg's

really turn me up

[charred plank]

I think I already sent one didn't I?

[worldly garden]

maybe i did not hear it yet

if u can redirect me to them

[charred plank]

The chassis is super low pitched form my testing but the PCB for some reason resonates really high pitched

I got it to sound a lot better by putting a layer of tape and cf on the pcb

Need to find a better solution to how the PCB resonates though

I kinda wish they had PCB and gasket options

Bottom mount sounds a little better but really hurts the gasket performance

[spiral mica]

oh shit he is sending soundtest

lets hope this doesnt trigger a(nother) war

[stoic steppe]

It’s already over budget don’t want to spend more and the case isn’t even black

[worldly garden]

the render is for illusterate purpose only yeah

it is indeed black

typing on them rn ^^

[worldly garden]

sonnet will sound better than this

[stoic steppe]

The case looks grey

[charred plank]

My modded lucky honestly sounds better, but the neo is a work of art

[worldly garden]

😂 as someone who is using it rn

it is black

[charred plank]

Here is the lucky for reference

[stoic steppe]

Alright

[worldly garden]

basically foamboards

lame

[charred plank]

The lucky has 0 foam

Besides in the redesigned gaskets I guess

But that's just to soften the gasket feel

And give it more flex

[worldly garden]

what is the specs

[charred plank]

Of the foam?

[worldly garden]

becáue imy friend built a lucky65 v1 no foam too and they are highẻr pitch than yours

[worldly garden]

of ur lucky keyboard

[charred plank]

Oh

It's cause I modded it so much

Let me see if I can find my list of mods

[stoic steppe]

What about the ND TKL or galaxy80

Not a huge fan of the red caps but I guess I could just replace those for like a couple bucks

[charred plank]

"I filled the battery compartment after removing the battery with compressed cotton and resin, mounted a giant brass weight with resin, cut the tops of the stock silicone shoe gaskets to move it up higher using a layer of gasket foam under it to create softer gaskets and raise the board, put a super thin layer of liquid electric tape to damp the bottom housing, put a layer of tape followed by a layer of copper foil behind the PCB, put a layer of tensioned copper foil over the plate, put a layer of copper foil in the modifier keys, and put a very very thin diffuser layer of non packed cotton filament to even key sounds under the PCB on top and under the weight"

[stoic steppe]

Like just the 3 of them

[charred plank]

Honestly, even with all that, the neo chassis resonates at a lower pitch

But the PCB is just high pitch spawner

[worldly garden]

yeah u are worse than hipyo tech kinetic sand mod

[stoic steppe]

But all the keys and text is actually red so idk about switching

[charred plank]

And the way the gaskets of the neo resonate only makes it worse

[charred plank]

Not really. Most of these mods are targeted and clearly work. The sand thing is just putting random things in

Goal with the lucky was maximize volume but keep frequency low

[worldly garden]

deep clack

anyway neo75 disappointed me

to me is a lame board

[charred plank]

I love the way it feels and looks

But the PCB does harm it's sound

I still haven't come up with a great way to fix that but it'll come to me

[worldly garden]

6/10

[charred plank]

I will say, I don't like most of the color options

Love cornflower though

[worldly garden]

reanode ur case to ur desire color

[charred plank]

Tbh, thought of doing that to my lucky. I mostly anodize smaller stuff, but I'd just need a larger container to anodize it in

[worldly garden]

oh if u have resources to do it yourself go ahead

[stoic steppe]

?

[boreal rivet]

realforce is better

[worldly garden]

real pain modding them

[patent belfry]

sounds like foam

[patent belfry]

is this yours?

[worldly garden]

Nope, i was at my dude place

He showed me what he is up to

[patent belfry]

ah

when are you getting a board

[worldly garden]

Im not into topre yet

Seems way more complicated than modding mx switches for sure

He is selling a pro 2 2019 for 95

Is that a good deal ?

[patent belfry]

yuh

[wheat elm]

Good deal

Buying one new is a lot more

[maiden cobalt]

Keyboard channel so anyone know how to clean a mouse mat?

[crisp patrol]

warm water or shampoo + lots of time to dry off

[patent belfry]

thocky keybort

[crisp patrol]

what board

I forgot

[patent belfry]

JiU

[crisp patrol]

sick

[patent belfry]

ifs really nice to type on for real

[charred plank]

Looks nice

Do you have a sound test of it?

Is it full brass?

[patent belfry]

alu and sts

[charred plank]

@patent belfry what's your favorite board rn?

[patent belfry]

finder works en dash

[sand pagoda]

Is the evo80 a good board to get as a starter?

[boreal rivet]

Realforce is better

[earnest dock]

Recommendation for something like creamy/blackish simple keyboard for an average budget about 100-150 bucks?

[worldly garden]

yeah if u ignore the fact that their pcb is 1.2mm flexcuts

[earnest dock]

Smth like this

[worldly garden]

no way u are serioús