peripherals

[eternal nimbus]

RGB is super vibrant too. Battery life is just unreal

I can tell you right now that i’m on 91% and if i turn off all rgb, the keyboard can last another 1003 hours before needing a charge

[rose tree]

Oh baby. Thanks for the detailed review. Think I’ll go for a tenkeyless since my 810 has a tenkey if I need it for work lol. Appreciate it

[prime pivot]

Can someone help me do a custom keyboard build 75%, with moon v2 linear switches and like either a white, light purple theme, or the matcha pbt key caps with budget being £200-£300, and if there's something better that's not a customer keyboard then recommend me one I should buy

[fathom terrace]

my gaming keyboard (drunkdeer a75 pro) stopped working all of a sudden. any alternatives i could buy that arent too pricy?
a lot of the "top 10 keyboards" are hard to get outside of the us, and id love to also catch a black friday week deal

(i think) HE is important to me, i wasnt very dissatisfied with the feel of the keyboard, but for some reason i always made typos with the keyboard that i never did with any other previous one

i prefer TKL but i could go with less if i had to as long as it still has some function keys on it. value for price, being hotswappable, and reliability are my priority. but i dont wanna buy "the best budget keyboard" that dies after a month but is still "good for the price"

not neccesarily asking an entire retelling of keyboard history, just curious if you guys have some underdogs and reliable competitors to sth. like wooting 80he that i can look for a deal on

ive had an eye on the keychron bois, but ive heard they massive issues with delay

next time ill put on subway surfers on the side, dw

[patent belfry]

you seem to know what you want, so I'm not sure what the Reddit user ass monologue was about.

[fathom terrace]

context

if i just say "i vant new keyboard k bye" its hard for people to know what i want. ive been told to get fragile or soldered keyboards cause "theyre cheap" and i had others tell me that "latency is not important"

but tbf not a lot of people on this server like reading, so ig youre right

[spiral mica]

my only recommendation for he keyboards is that dont get he

sacrifices feel, sound and via compatibility for basically no performance difference

[patent belfry]

i saw 75 and stopped reading

ive not ever had a tiktok

[fathom terrace]

i mean, every corner of the internet told me its the one gimmick that isnt just a marketing trick

might be a futureproofing scam tho maybe

[patent belfry]

HE switches sound and feel like shit

[spiral mica]

^

[fathom terrace]

eh, had no issues with sound so far

[patent belfry]

why ask for others opinion then

[fathom terrace]

but im no pro. i hate to admit but i always switched back to my membrane low profile wireless logi keyboard for long text stuff

[spiral mica]

honestly sounds like you would like topre but thats another story

[fathom terrace]

pff mate you good? i just had i had no issues. i didnt tell you to feel ashamed and reflect upon your actions

[spiral mica]

just get whatever he you think looks good

[patent belfry]

literally

[spiral mica]

pcb issues are rare

they all work the same

[patent belfry]

https://github.com/thocctober/GEONWORKS/tree/main/Frog Mini
make this and buy a frog mini, drop in a wooting

[fathom terrace]

shouldnt i consider value for price? dont wanna get a keyboard that dies on me after 4 months again

[spiral mica]

"value"

he keyboards are basically the same besides like

3 of them

[patent belfry]

buy the wooting 60

[fathom terrace]

one of them being wooting

dont like 60% layout

im not a radical minimalist

and 80he is way too pricy for my budget sadly

[spiral mica]

you have like no good he board to use then

[patent belfry]

buy a geon venom tkl pcb and a frog tkl

[spiral mica]

just get whatever suits your requirement

[patent belfry]

problem solved

[spiral mica]

so real

[patent belfry]

@crisp patrol

[fathom terrace]

a keyboard i never want to replace

;)

[patent belfry]

sounds liek someone needs to buy a topre realforce tkl then

[spiral mica]

famous quote : "you should get a realforce instead"

unironically

[patent belfry]

r1s last forever

i spilled an entire redbull on my 106u, its still alive

[spiral mica]

or gx1/rgb if you want those gaming features

[patent belfry]

did you see the new RF 75%?

it's unironically amazing

[spiral mica]

doesnt feel realforce

[patent belfry]

its really good

[spiral mica]

but nice to have more layouts for topre

[fathom terrace]

damn, now that i think about it, there should be a spill resistance rating for keyboards

[patent belfry]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/topre-realforce-rc1-75-bluetooth-keyboard

there is the listing

[fathom terrace]

Linus team should get on it

[fathom terrace]

its pretty much the same price range as the wooting 80he. prolly still over my budget unless i wanna full gamble

[fathom terrace]

this was ironic btw. i wish i could reach that point

[patent belfry]

you could

i have a custom from 2013 on my desk

[fathom terrace]

i feel like you are a simpler and happier person than i am

you dont even get tempted by TKL

[patent belfry]

all my boards are tkl

or larger

[fathom terrace]

didnt you say you dislike 75%

[patent belfry]

I do

[fathom terrace]

i thought you meant as in too bulky

[patent belfry]

no the other extreme

im not 12

[fathom terrace]

damn, thats cool

usually everyone is about shrinking everything

neat to find an enthusiast on the other end

[patent belfry]

im just tired of the low end keyboard debate daily in here

thats lal

all

they are all generally the same

[patent belfry]

hard to find because this is LTT and not a dedicated keyboard discord

[fathom terrace]

i mean its not a tech support focused discord either. not trying to be rude, but this is the server i had the most issues with getting respones on tech related questions compared to all others with a tech support chat

especially if my question is more than 5 words

[patent belfry]

people are jaded because they get asked the same thing dozens of times per day

it turns into memes

[fathom terrace]

fair. not blaming anyone directly

its just that in the end the result is the same. people ask them twice bc they felt ignored the first time, only making the meme more pronounced

still, thx for the input. i really like how unique the nuphy looks, and im scared to trust keychron. i dont wanna relive my previous buying mistakes that happened due to blind recommendation trust from youtube reviews and discord servers

[patent belfry]

anyways, HE is still in a phase where software is vastly different between brands and manufacturers.

[fathom terrace]

wish i could find more actual latency tests on these. most just say "manufacturer says X but we cant test it bc we dont have the tools"

[patent belfry]

most of it is negligible

[bitter oar]

latency isn’t mostly the issue anymore with recent keyboard releases but with HE i’d be rather worried about the tolerances, how accurate the keyboard actually registers

[bitter oar]

if you want cheap HE i’d look up chinese markets or just aliexpress

but as stated above, software support varies and it’s usually bad

[patent belfry]

[fathom terrace]

well, im asking here bc you guys have experience. i dont wanna say i want gold plated, but i dont want the weird plastic you get from cheap products that makes you hands feel greasy

[bitter oar]

not sure wym by plastic that makes your hands feel greasy?

[patent belfry]

soft touch gamer plastics

that turns to aids in like a month of use

[bitter oar]

ideally you should look for pbt keycaps on budget, they’re more resistant agaisnt grease and don’t get shiny as quickly as other types of plastic like abs, though that depends on the composition of them, etc.

[fathom terrace]

you never had really cheap plastic?

and i dont just mean level of detail or stability

[bitter oar]

uh, i don’t eat while using the keyboards

[fathom terrace]

no i dont mean eat the keycaps

[bitter oar]

while

[spiral mica]

I like eating keycaps

[bitter oar]

same

i love microplastics

[spiral mica]

strawberry flavored PBT 😋

[bitter oar]

anyways, reason why your keycaps turn shiny after using them for years is because plastic has micro pores and the oils that’s in your sweat seep into them, that’s why.
if they feel greasy or sticky you should clean those keycaps

[spiral mica]

get pbt, problem solved

only cheap abs does that

[boreal rivet]

abs is non-porous

how did you even get to this conclusion

[fathom terrace]

for nuphy users

what do you prefer, magnetic white or jade

[bitter oar]

it is

surface level counts

how it wouldn’t be porous if your keycaps have a texture?

[patent belfry]

PBT also shines

[boreal rivet]

bruh the texture is derived from the mold

[bitter oar]

ye PBT can get shiny as well, it just takes more time

[patent belfry]

I wish people put more effort into learning then they did yapping

[spiral mica]

yeah but it takes way longer than cheapo abs

[bitter oar]

otherwise, explain why the abs plastic doesn’t let go of the grease, you can clean it however you want but once it seeps into the plastic it won’t leave

there isn’t chemical reaction going on is there?

[boreal rivet]

source?

[bitter oar]

have you actually ever tried to clean plastic shine?

[patent belfry]

you cannot

[boreal rivet]

bruh

the shine is caused by wear

from use

not skin oils

[spiral mica]

jade>white

in every way

besides price

[patent belfry]

I love abs

[bitter oar]

you’re removing surface of the plastic? it’s not supposted to get reflective unless you break some, it’s like polishing but your skin isn’t harder than plastic

[spiral mica]

bro is saying abs doesnt shine

[bitter oar]

i didn’t we’re discussing why

it does

[patent belfry]

this is a monologue

no discussion happening

[boreal rivet]

man

please start a lab and write a research paper

prove us wrong

[patent belfry]

BIOCC moment

[bitter oar]

i mean, give me your source why you think so it gets shiny

[patent belfry]

shine from use

[boreal rivet]

its common sense

you should be the one providing a source for your claim lol

ok

let me give you an example

[bitter oar]

okay, common sense, not everyone knows why plastic gets shiny, you’re just telling me it happens

[boreal rivet]

mice right

when you grip and use them

much of your hand is in contact

but over prolonged use

[bitter oar]

why when i put keycaps into grease it gets shiny? explain.

[boreal rivet]

only areas where your fingers constantly rub start shining or wearing down

even though other parts were in contact with your skin

they didn't wear

[bitter oar]

yes but why exactly

[boreal rivet]

are you not able to come to such a simple logical conclusion

[patent belfry]

your finger is rubbing away the material

I have a cap where you can see the stem through the top

it's shiny as fuck

[bitter oar]

ur not sanding down the keycap, the plastic is harder than your skin and it’s not brittle enough to break on it’s own

[patent belfry]

it clearly is if I can see the stem

[boreal rivet]

lapping paper is not harder than steel

yet it is used to polish it?

[bitter oar]

it’s rather because of the oils and reactions that leach stuff from the plastic because your sweat isn’t just water and salt

[patent belfry]

this is so autistic

[bitter oar]

my sis touched my monitor with her makeup that’s abs plastic. i cannot clear it even with isopropyl, no matter how much i try

same goes for sweat

that’s not physical wear

[patent belfry]

he's still going

[boreal rivet]

have you considered the fact that makeup might contain solvents

[bitter oar]

yes, that’s not like rubbing

literally me explaining the whole time

[boreal rivet]

huh

your body doesn't produce solvents

[bitter oar]

even ur sweat contains stuff that can wear plastic

[boreal rivet]

unless you want to count water

at best

you can explain the skin oils act as a lubricant for your fingers

like how water is used when lapping

[bitter oar]

it can in minimal amounts produce certain chemicals that indeed damage plastic

[boreal rivet]

again do cite your source

[patent belfry]

he's huffing those chemicals

[boreal rivet]

if you want to go against established knowledge you have to prove what you're saying is right

[bitter oar]

sec, i’ll find what sweat contains, hand a sec

[patent belfry]

[bitter oar]

just so it doesn’t end up like “this convo is over”

once i give you the answer

[patent belfry]

we wish this convo was over

[bitter oar]

acids and ammonia are found in sweat which when you prolongely expode to plastic can weaken them or other additives found in those plastics

they can contribute to material breakdowns

[boreal rivet]

does sweat contain ammonia?

[bitter oar]

i mean, your key switches constantly rub agaisnt each other and they don’t get shiny

[boreal rivet]

lactic acid and urea are of note right

[bitter oar]

it does in very low amounts

[boreal rivet]

source?

https://www.calpaclab.com/abs-chemical-compatibility/

[bitter oar]

if you just google it, unless all of the first 5 sources that pop up are wrong

[patent belfry]

yes they do actually

[boreal rivet]

if its so simple why don't you send the link here

[patent belfry]

and when you actuate them enough the plastic becomes so worn that switches will not work due to loss of material

[bitter oar]

again, explain then why my spacebar when i put it into krytox grease got shiny, maybe fluorine?

not even isopropyl fixed things

[boreal rivet]

why did you put it in krytox grease

[patent belfry]

yea wtf

[bitter oar]

it was the exact same when as with usygaw

[patent belfry]

leave the hobby on god

[boreal rivet]

that stuff is industrial grease

[bitter oar]

curiosity

[boreal rivet]

its not supposed to come off easily

[bitter oar]

the shine behaves the same as with regular usage

[boreal rivet]

alot of people forget that krytox is actually meant for very demanding use cases

omg

[patent belfry]

I feel like people argue just for the sake of arguing even when they are clearly wrong

[boreal rivet]

i hope someday you learn how important it is to realise and admit you're wrong kvetinky

even if you don't admit it publicly

[bitter oar]

okay, i haven’t noticed shine inside my switches unless i applied lube, and at most i saw wear along edges when those stems were unevenly making contact

clear marks

[patent belfry]

I'm not speaking with you about this

you're not a fun person to speak to. nor do I have the patience to deal with you

[boreal rivet]

can you send the link

so I can read it

instead of sending me a bunch of headlines

[bitter oar]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1396636/

or like pick any of the first searches, i mean you can check them based on the headlines

[fathom terrace]

yeah, still a 25€ uptick in price

[boreal rivet]

ok i see

[fathom terrace]

but i dont wanna cheap out

[patent belfry]

all this yap about abs plastic and it's out of kvetinkys budget entirely

[boreal rivet]

now let me counter with

[patent belfry]

for any of his builds

[bitter oar]

okay, why though? isopropyl is a great solvent for it not?

[patent belfry]

it's not

I've tried to clean switches with it. it works but it's not great

[boreal rivet]

keep in mind the D rating was tested at a 60c temperature

[bitter oar]

inside the switches i assume? i mean if you try to clean a lump of paste with isopropyl it’s not going to be great either, for surface cleaning it is good

[patent belfry]

I've cleaned more switches then you've used in your lifetime. please stop being a pretentious clown

[bitter oar]

okay, then how do i remove that krytox from the keycap, i mean i already pretty much removed the lube but it was shiny, what should i use next to remove it?

[boreal rivet]

idk????

i touch so little of it

that I've never had to remove any

[patent belfry]

I'm not going to dip the spacebar from a 100+$ keycap set in grease

I'm ngl with you

literally NOBODY has done that but you

[bitter oar]

it’s $1 for a pbt keycap

[patent belfry]

buy another one then

[bitter oar]

or well, $1 for a whole set

[patent belfry]

buy one

[bitter oar]

ok

[patent belfry]

problem solved

[bitter oar]

@boreal rivet if makeup contains stuff that can breakdown plastic how are you sure sweat doesn’t too?

[patent belfry]

he's still going

[boreal rivet]

because the composition of sweat has been studied and defined

you're grasping for straws here dude

just stop

https://miller-stephenson.com/krytox-faq/

[bitter oar]

uh, this is straight up misleading i just realized, isn’t it all about hardness?

[boreal rivet]

huh

[bitter oar]

otherwise the steel would be the one to polish the lapping paper

not?

[boreal rivet]

well what do you think?

[bitter oar]

they would not wear down the surface effectively, at most when some particle that’s harder than the steel would

[boreal rivet]

clearly not right?

[bitter oar]

now you’re just gaslighting because that is a nonsense?

[boreal rivet]

is it?

if lapping paper didn't work

why does it exist

[bitter oar]

you cannot polish a material with a one that’s softer, otherwise you’d just damage the one that’s softer

[boreal rivet]

why do watch manufacturers use it to polish watch cases

[bitter oar]

it does, because it’s harder than steel?

you said it is not

[boreal rivet]

ah yes so thin plastic is harder than steel

[bitter oar]

if it was not as hard as steel or less it would simply not polish the steel at all

[boreal rivet]

here let me give you another example

plastic model hobbyists use sandpaper with aluminium oxide abrasive to sand plastic parts

[bitter oar]

uh, why do you* pretend like you know what you’re talking about… silicon carbide has hardness of 9

[boreal rivet]

yet the sandpaper will lose effectiveness over time

[bitter oar]

that’s like the most simple thing to understand

“thin plastic”

[boreal rivet]

despite the abrasives being use on a softer material

why?

isn't aluminium oxide harder than plastic

[bitter oar]

lapping paper often uses silicon carbide

you can’t call that “ a piece of thin plastic “

[boreal rivet]

you know not all lapping paper are the same right

[bitter oar]

“i’ve changed”
and yet you’re spitting shit like you know it

[bitter oar]

oh damn, that just made this situation much better

i never knew

[boreal rivet]

that makes sense

[bitter oar]

those that are softer than the material you’re trying to polish will not work

ask like anyone

[boreal rivet]

yet I have some that does

well

lets say you're right about the lapping paper

[bitter oar]

because it’s harder lol

[boreal rivet]

what about the sandpaper

[bitter oar]

it’s not just about the molecules, it’s about the structure, you know if you align carbon molecules properly it’s extremely strong you mean this? but that’s literally the hardness

[boreal rivet]

no shit

[bitter oar]

same thing lol

[boreal rivet]

how?

the sandpaper is being used on a softer material

[bitter oar]

if the sandpaper surface was softer it would get polished instead of it polishing the material you’re trying to polish

how is that not understandable?

you claimed softer material can polish harder one, can i get a source?

no shit you can polish steel with “just plastic”

[boreal rivet]

bruh life does not work in absolutes

its not as simple as if its softer it'll get polished instead

[bitter oar]

same thing as you can’t polish plastic with your skin unless the plastic has been compromised by some sort

[bitter oar]

plastic cannot polish steel, give me a source if you stand behind that

and source that lists skin can polish plastic as well would be nice (without the plastic being chemically weakened)

nails can scratch/polish/damage certain plastics, skin alone cannot

it’s not as simple as rubbing fingers agaisnt surface of your keycaps will wear them down

[boreal rivet]

[patent belfry]

this guy has to be an AI ragebait chatbot

[bitter oar]

why do i even bother answering, you guys are claiming that abrasion can happen on steel when you rub plastic agaisnt it?

on which world?

[bitter oar]

didn’t i say fluorine? do you even read my messages “grasping for straws”

abrasion hardly happens on the harder material that’s getting rubbed agaisnt the softer ones, especially when the softer ones is magnitudes less hard than the harder one like for example steel vs plastic, bonds on the softer material will break down because they simply cannot polish the steel

same thing goes for diamonds

they will polish steel because they bond is much stronger

and same thing goes for your skin and plastic, unless the plastic is compromised/weakened chemically

that and oils contribute to shine you see on your keycaps

[boreal rivet]

Keep going bruh

[patent belfry]

for REAL

[bitter oar]

i gave bad example for krytox so i said fluorine, i meant fluorinated solvent that’s my bad but that still doesn’t change the fact your keycaps have micro pores and krytox/oils like to stay in those

[bitter oar]

because you’re denying anything i say, even if it makes you the one that’s wrong

just to troll ig

i don’t want to chat with ya but if you make such claims i do prefer to address stuff

[boreal rivet]

From my perspective you are also denying anything I say

[bitter oar]

because saying lapping paper is just a piece of plastic and that it can polish steel (as the plastic being the contact of polishing) is hilarous

[boreal rivet]

Did I say that

[bitter oar]

you implied

[boreal rivet]

Oh ok

[bitter oar]

you said it’s softer

than steel

and that it’s just a piece of plastic

[boreal rivet]

So true

Slayyy

[bitter oar]

it cannot be just a piece of plastic it literally implies it if you say that

[boreal rivet]

I’ve got some stuff to do now

So let’s continue some other time

[bitter oar]

piece of plastic is piece of plastic, that doesn’t mean it’s a piece of plastic if it’s coated in diamonds lol

[boreal rivet]

ok ok

you're so right kvetinky

I was wrong

[bitter oar]

is this another some sort of trolling

[boreal rivet]

I admit

I was wrong about the lapping paper

doesn't disprove the mouse analogy though

🤷‍♂️

[bitter oar]

how has that to do with material though, i mean i respect the sources you gave how much those chemicals actually wear down plastic but simply rubbing plastic with skin doesn’t abrade it

there have to be other factors to it

like dirt

[boreal rivet]

my fingers are clean as hell

[worldly garden]

Indeed

[bitter oar]

i mean sweat still does get on your keycap and weaken the plastic and only probably then they can abrade the plastic, the polishing process gets faster with oils, dirt and it’s unavoidable if you’re using the keycaps constantly, unless you want to like wear gloves and keep the keycaps in a vacuum

[boreal rivet]

haven't I already proven that the components in sweat don't react with the plastic if it all

[bitter oar]

if it was just pure skin to plastic contact, you’d polish your whole finger to the bone

[boreal rivet]

I already said at best you can say the sweat is acting as a lubricant

which I agree with

it is not however your original argument

[bitter oar]

yeah i meant it like your skin alone will not damage/wear the plastic

without other factors

that’s why the “chemicals”

and oils

[boreal rivet]

your fingers rubbing against the keycap is the main factor

your argument was the oils weaken and make the keycap shine

without rubbing being a factor

[bitter oar]

yes, without that the keycap wouldn’t get shiny but there have to be other factors

[bitter oar]

my argument was the shine happens because oils get into the poures

no abrasion happens

in that case

[boreal rivet]

abs plastic is non-porous with a moisture absorption of <1% at 50% rh

[bitter oar]

but how much? does that include surface level

even steel is porous on the surface, also by porous i just meant not polished, my bad as well

grease can still get stuck on abs plastic surface

[crisp patrol]

sexy

[bitter oar]

like materials can be considered porous or not depending on how larger those pores are

[crisp patrol]

all abs shines

abs shines from wear

end of story

[bitter oar]

like you could say wood is not porous but is it because you can compress it and then it’s even less porous and absorbs even less

[boreal rivet]

wood is very obviously porous

[bitter oar]

it is but depends on what you’re comparing it to

[crisp patrol]

dinky are you just basing this off of you having greasy hands

[bitter oar]

all plastic are permeable to a point even if it’s extremely low

that’s why they’re considred non permeable

you also for example have uv filters they’re considered to not let uv light through but they actually do just low amounts

@boreal rivet i’m just curious if you do agree or not, obviously some of my statements are wrong because i’m not experienced to understand it all or i just can’t express them

[crisp patrol]

so you're wrong got it

thanks for making it clear

[boreal rivet]

yes that is true, thus it is considered a non-porous material

absorption if any is so low that it is not a factor at all

so why do you keep trying to argue that it is

[bitter oar]

if it interacts with the material isn’t it then?

your sweat interacting with the plastic, weakening it

[bitter oar]

i mean, if you’d spill sunflower oil on a keycap and let it sit there for a day it would for sure get shiny

and you wouldn’t be able to clean it even with the best solvent

give it a few hundred years and maybe and some oil would eventually get under the keycap, seeping through the whole material slowly

non permeable doesn’t mean absolutely non permeable

but that really depends, alot of factors play in it

[boreal rivet]

we’ve already established that sweat does not weaken abs

And definitely not in the so small it’s not a factor quantities

[bitter oar]

okay but then what does exactly make the keycaps shiny? for polishing the skin is too soft if there are no other roles playing

[boreal rivet]

Bruh

[bitter oar]

i genuienly want to know it

imo it’s the combination of rubbing and exposure to oils, chemicals, dirt

shifting?

[hallow cloak]

oh wow ty for this list, will look into it
btw do you think it is a hassle to use FN keys on a 65% keyboard? Like I wouldn't mind 65% but I feel like having to hold the FN key and pressing a number may be a bit annoying at times... not sure though

I was looking into my used market, I decided I'm okay with a used one. But the problem is the lack of F key row since I see mostly 65%'s
some ones I found are:

Keychron K1, K2, K3, K8, K12 M3
Langtu GK65
Ziyoulang K68
Red Dragon K552

[velvet inlet]

I tried a 60% keyboard once... I ended up returning it because it was just annoying to use (btw Amazon returns are a god send if you just want to test something like that).
End of the day it's subjective to what you think would look best and feel best using. I'm honestly fairly new to the hobby and have only owned a total of 4 (mechanical) keyboards, before that I was a membrane Andy. So unfortunately I'm a little useless when it comes to that and mainly poke about on forums to see what people say about stuff I like the look of. I think you'd be able to get used to no F keys pretty easily though.

[worldly garden]

I use fn keys on 65’s, will take some time to get used to it

[spiral mica]

I mean how often do you actually use f row

[urban panther]

Daily

[bitter oar]

at times most used keys for a week

entering bios when something goes wrong on an oc

[velvet inlet]

Alt + F4 is often quicker than pressing close on a window, F12 is very handy for inspecting stuff on a website. Honestly besides that not often 🤣

[bitter oar]

F row barely takes any desk space unlike when your keyboard is wider, which some people don’t have enough of but aesthetic reason is understandable

[hallow cloak]

I mainly use f4 (closing apps), f5 (refreshing stuff), f11 (fullscreen)

[hallow cloak]

60% is a no-go for me
I need my arrow keys
I cannot imagine writing code without arrow keys

[spiral mica]

slightly unpopular opinion but HHKB layout is fire

using fn is better than actual keys bcs way less hand movement

and having ctrl on caps makes it way easier to reach ot

[velvet inlet]

I know the feel, that's personally why I opt for 75-80. On a side note, some keyboards can easily have the keys remapped. So if you see a cheap one that looks good and you might just want a key in a different place, or one replaced with another, might be worth a look. 😛

[fiery sail]

is this the place when i need help with buying a new keyboard or shall i make a post in #1106613567966429224 ?

[worldly garden]

This will work

[fiery sail]

great 😄
so, i was looking at after over 10 years of using some cheap rubberdome keyboard to go to a mechanical one.
primarily for gaming. i definitely want a cabled one since battery swapping annoys me.
ISO-DE is also a must, but i can check myself if thats available.
what would be great but not 100% a must if i miss out on other upseides, would be a rather quiet keyboard.
i saw the epomaker rt 100 but i think that is too silent for me, like i still want to have audio feedback on pressing a key, but since i live with my gf and out bed is in the same room as the PC, since we use it to watch movies, and sometimes imawake when she sleeps and with my current keyboard i have to be careful not to wake her up.
100% layouts would be preferred, but im totally down to save a bit of money by going smaller, although i would at least keep the arrow keys.

so clicky is out of the question and i think i would prefer tactile switches
and i dont want to spend more than like 90€
sth around the endorfy thock level maybe

if u want to look at prices, the best german price comparison website is geizhals.de

[worldly garden]

90 euro, demanding a full size prebuilt tactile keyboard and iso in german

Keychron

[fiery sail]

num pad is really just a "i'd take it if its only 5€ more"

these seem to be the offers (i set it to english which changes currency and some prices)

but nothing to worry about

aesthetics absolutely dont matter to me btw

nvm didnt filter for DE layout and the first TKLs start at 120

anything in here thats decent for my purposes?

https://geizhals.de/?cat=kb&xf=19278_80.0001~7008_DEalone~7009_mechanical~7023_kabelgebunden&asuch=&bpmin=&bpmax=90&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk&hloc=eu&plz=&dist=&t=v&sort=r&bl1_id=300

[fiery sail]

also there are optical keyboards like some razer huntsman variations, the EVGA Z20 around the 85€ mark and even a 70€ one, the speedlink orios, which is the brand my current keyboard and mouse are and im very happy with it. speedlink in germany is known a bit for being one of the best, if not the best budget brand when it comes to peripherals, but its only a 15-20€ difference which im happy to pay if i know what im getting

https://geizhals.de/?cat=kb&bpmax=90&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk&hloc=eu&t=v&sort=r&bl1_id=300&xf=19278_100.0001~19278_80.0001~7008_DEalone~7009_mechanisch-optisch~7023_kabelgebunden

[prime pivot]

How does this build sound, purple yc8 coiled cable, Neo75 cu with (brass bottom, anodised purple, vortex silver, wired hotswap PCB, POM plate), Octopus PBT Keycaps and Moon V2 Linear switches.

[worldly garden]

Any keychron but K serires

[fiery sail]

im not spending 200 bucks

[worldly garden]

Thocky

[worldly garden]

K serires is bad

[prime pivot]

Thocky?

[fiery sail]

11 year old 30 bucks rubberdome then

[prime pivot]

I was kinda going for more creamy that thocky

[worldly garden]

Just do full foam and u might achieve that

Neo65 pbt keycaps and fully foamed

[prime pivot]

There isn't a foam option

[worldly garden]

There is ??

[worldly garden]

Oh no 😂

They will come inside ur keyboard

Is a must you know

[prime pivot]

Ok

[chrome raft]

thocky

[charred birch]

Does anybody know a really budget friendly hot swappable 96% keyboard? I've been thinking about the royal kludge rk100, but i want to see other options before i buy anything

[slow bloom]

Anyone have suggestions on keyboards ( budget: $350 ) that not only has macro support but also lighting ( games: valorant, cod. battelfeild, destiny 2, lost ark and strinova ) - also it having macro buttons would be wonderful ( 75%+ )

[rose tree]

I just bought this one. Has 5 macro keys I think. The Logitech software supports tons of games for your lighting requirement. ~$230 normally but on sale rn for like $140ish

[eternal nimbus]

Solid

Keyboards are subjective so hope you like it!

[rose tree]

Got it for $84 so odds are stacked heavily in its favor🤓

Thanks for the detailed showcase yesterday!

[eternal nimbus]

Did you get the TKL or Full Size btw?

Here’s a review by Linus of the TKL variant if interested:

https://youtu.be/-rBV4I_LWhg?si=ELYGGpk_T8LVJTIs

[rose tree]

TKL. My g810 is full, so if I really need a tenkey I can swap. That or I can swap to my k250 from work lol. Excited for the extra desk space from the 915 TKL

[main narwhal]

that's usually the first thing people notice when cutting down size lol

i let my ex roomate borrow a 60% and he was amazed by how much more space he had for his mouse lol

[junior sentinel]

do you guys recommend the k1 keychron in all white
or should i get something else for 100$

[quartz dew]

any recommendations 65% keyboards

recently found out about rapid trigger and now i want one with it😂

budget $100 - 200

must sound good af and would be nice if it's available on amazon or at least shipped to europe

[lapis trout]

Hall effect keyboards sound kinda... Mid

But

I have a Nuphy Air60HE and that thing is pretty aight

First keyboard on the market that's Hall Effect and low profile

[worldly garden]

Either hall effect or good sounding

[torpid fable]

New mousepad

[young spoke]

is a epomaker aula f99 good for £60?

pretty cheap for a 99%

[bitter oar]

normal price for a plastic custom kb

they can be gotten much cheaper than £60 tbh

[charred plank]

At that price I usually recommend just getting a leobog hi75

It's kinda busted for its price

[worldly garden]

Nahh full navy 😋

[shell locust]

is keychron this one good?

[worldly garden]

Lmao

K series

[shell locust]

bad?

[bitter oar]

for the price yeah

[charred plank]

I don't recommend buying it, but if you already have one it'll work at least

[shell locust]

found used for 35$

its good deal?

[shell locust]

why how bad?

[bitter oar]

it’s okay, not good

[shell locust]

hmm

[spiral mica]

for 35 yes

but for full price K series is ass

[shell locust]

ok

buy or not?

@bitter oar

[bitter oar]

it depends on if it supports qmk

[cunning anvil]

k is the wireless?

[bitter oar]

the k8 pro does support qmk/via

[spiral mica]

honestly no

you can prob get something better off aliexpress

[bitter oar]

but unsure about the regular k8 i don’t think it does

[spiral mica]

well if its pro or max then depends on the switch

regular K is a no (for me at leaast)

[bitter oar]

yeah, there’s not really point of getting the k8 if there’s no qmk support

at that point just buy something from aliexpress

[spiral mica]

regular K doesnt even have dampeners afaik

[shell locust]

yes

[cunning anvil]

oof

[bitter oar]

okay, that’s bad

why would anyone buy that

[cunning anvil]

what are dampeners lol

[spiral mica]

its outdated

like C series

[cunning anvil]

like the foam?

[spiral mica]

yes

[bitter oar]

cheap plastic, no qmk (on a keychron lol) and there’s no foam?

[shell locust]

OK i will not buy it

[cunning anvil]

i just ordered a 8x3 split

kinda

love me some ortho

gonna have to flash a bootloader tho

thatll be a learning experienc

[young spoke]

i want 99% though

also the hi75 is £40 more

[bitter oar]

if you really like the aula just buy it through chinese markets

you’ll find it there for 30-40% of the price

• shipping

[young spoke]

aliexpress is more expensive on then on amazon

[bitter oar]

taobao

for example

[young spoke]

and idk about goofy shit like temu

[young spoke]

says it’s £30 with £80 shipping

[bitter oar]

through an agent though

you don’t want to buy directly

[young spoke]

i just searched it up on the taobao website

my knowledge of mandarin is not useless after all

[bitter oar]

you visit some agent’s website, put the product link from taobao, ask the agent how much will the product cost and shipping total, etc, etc.

[young spoke]

effort

i’ll just buy it on amazon for cheap

i doubt tao bao will be cheaper anyway

[charred plank]

I kinda doubt that considering that's it's total price, unless the other boards are free

[young spoke]

hi75 is £100

[charred plank]

It's $50

Even fully built it isn't $100

[young spoke]

what?

it’s £100 for me on amazon

fully built that is

this is the only one i found but that requires amazon prime

which i do not have

the kits go for under £100

[charred plank]

Check from the epomaker seller

Epomaker distributed them

[young spoke]

£100

[charred plank]

They'll list it for $70 and have a $20 off coupon usually

[young spoke]

that prime only deal is £50

[charred plank]

Which makes it really $50

[young spoke]

but £100 without prime

[charred plank]

That's the normal price

[young spoke]

no it isn’t

it’s 50% prime only

[charred plank]

They do the whole "call it a discount but always" thing

[young spoke]

normal price is £100

[charred plank]

It isn't

It's always $50

[young spoke]

$50

meaning not including shipping tax to england

[charred plank]

If you don't want to look it's available on AliExpress for that same price

[charred plank]

There isn't a 100% tax for imports in England...

[young spoke]

idk

normal price is £100

there isn’t one that’s under £100

prime only deal doesn’t count for obvious reasons

[charred plank]

EPOMAKER x LEOBOG Hi75 Aluminum Alloy Wired Mechanical Keyboard, Programmable Gasket-mounted Gaming Keyboard with Mode-Switching Knob, Hot Swappable, NKRO, RGB (White Purple, Ice Cyan Switch) https://amzn.eu/d/4depWii

Took me 2 seconds

Tons of others for the same price on Amazon uk

If you don't want to look I can't make you

Like literally this was the first result

And there are like 10 more listings around that price

[young spoke]

that’s the prime only deal

[young spoke]

please show me

there is not a single hi75 for under £100 on amazon uk

except for the £95 barebones kit

[charred plank]

I just checked and there is, but if you don't want to look then use AliExpress...

[young spoke]

please show me

[charred plank]

I'm not switching back to Amazon uk again

[young spoke]

ok

[charred plank]

You can look for yourself or you can use aliexpress

I'm not handholding here

[young spoke]

anyway i want a 98% keyboard not a 75

[charred plank]

You can do the bare minimum of searching

[young spoke]

i did as much research as i could

i even looked at the way back machine and it was never sold under £100

there has never been a single hi75 sold under £100 on amazon uk

(prebuilt and not prime only deals)

i’ll just get the f99

i need numpad

[blazing nest]

You could try Keychron

[young spoke]

those are a lot more but if they are better then sure

[blazing nest]

They are expensive but worth the money, imo. Keychron K4 might be ideal for you. Just leaving that option there for you. Check it out see if it meets your needs. Better is relative to the person using it.

[worldly garden]

Monsgeek m2/m5w

Just get a 65% and external numpad

[cunning anvil]

help me name my 25%

im bad at names

paul

i need a paul

maybe i need to stop naming things after apostles

anna

cup anna half

[chrome raft]

What would judas think

[worldly garden]

The quarter

[cunning anvil]

see its actually 24 keys

[young spoke]

nah

i need macros too

also that seems highly impractical

[charred plank]

They're mostly gonna be worse, but they'll be in the size you want.

[young spoke]

so more expensive and worse

[charred plank]

K series is pretty terrible

[charred plank]

You're the one who wants a less competitive or common size

Not much you can do about that

[blazing nest]

I have had 0 issues with mine so.

[young spoke]

why would i get a keychron k4 if its worse then the f99 and more expensive?

[charred plank]

Doesn't matter if it's worse than boards a fraction its price

[charred plank]

F99 is probably better than k4, but its also not a great value board. If you really need that form factor though, it sounds like you've already made up your mind

[young spoke]

its that or bite the bullet and get a tkl

[charred plank]

I'd say get tkl tbh

[young spoke]

ill just get a mouse with a numpad on it

[charred plank]

It's much more competitive

[spiral mica]

just get a seperate numpad

you can southpaw it too which should be easier to use if you are right handed

[young spoke]

seperate munpad would take more space then a 100% keyboard lol

[spiral mica]

but you can southpaw it (put it to your left)

also 75%+numpad is smaller if not equally as large as a full size

[young spoke]

i dont see my self doing that ever

[worldly garden]

Name it “how many hours a day”

[young spoke]

ill just order the f99

[worldly garden]

Ew aula

Xd

[cunning anvil]

hourglass

[young spoke]

dont complain if you dont have other suggestions

[worldly garden]

My 65% project named as The p*ssy

[spiral mica]

yall name your boards?

[worldly garden]

Well you know where i got that inspiration

[worldly garden]

Qk100

Austin r2

[spiral mica]

honestly not much option for mid range/budget full size

most full size are premium boards

[young spoke]

both are nearly triple the price

[worldly garden]

Oh and pangea

Seal 100

All the good names

Go for it

[worldly garden]

Im thinking of making one and sell it as a gb run yk

[young spoke]

triple the cost

[spiral mica]

what board

[young spoke]

shit aint cheap

[worldly garden]

We are still designing it

[spiral mica]

no like what size

[worldly garden]

65

[spiral mica]

👀

[spiral mica]

just get the aula

[young spoke]

atleast got an f row

i still dont fully understand the utility of small keyboards

[worldly garden]

Sketch of weight design xd

[young spoke]

most people i see that have them have double the desk space i do lol

[spiral mica]

HHKB layout 🔥

[worldly garden]

No frick

I wont go for anything weird yet

[spiral mica]

[spiral mica]

no I mean this

hhkb layout is so fire

[worldly garden]

Dont say u post these in r/pcmr

[spiral mica]

oh my god the 3rd one

[young spoke]

nah

[worldly garden]

Dont mind my post tho ( i didnt get banned)

[young spoke]

65% and below is the cutoff area for me

[spiral mica]

honestly a large reason I like small boards (at first) is bcs I dont haave to buy a pack more of switches and numpad kit for keycaps

[worldly garden]

Are u a coder or smth

[young spoke]

no

i actually use my keyboard outside of gaming

[worldly garden]

Then why do u so desperately need a fullsize

[young spoke]

i use the keyboard

[spiral mica]

me when layers

and number keys

[worldly garden]

Dont say u post these in pcmr

[young spoke]

i need more keys for certain things

[young spoke]

no

why

[worldly garden]

Then buy a macro pad

Eg the richard macropad

[spiral mica]

hell yeah

[worldly garden]

[spiral mica]

that thing is a masterpiece

[young spoke]

too much space

[worldly garden]

My project inspired by a chat around that board tho

[worldly garden]

U did not see it

Is smol

[spiral mica]

you should search it up

[young spoke]

too much space

[worldly garden]

If 🐱 65 succed i will make a 20% too

[young spoke]

added cable is sad

[worldly garden]

The *umpad

[spiral mica]

it literally takes less space than a 96%

[worldly garden]

😂

[worldly garden]

Wireless

[spiral mica]

also just saying but 65%+pad is arnd as wide as a 96%

[young spoke]

2 hours of battery life

[spiral mica]

but less tall

[worldly garden]

2 weeks actually

[young spoke]

proof?

[spiral mica]

my hhkb lasts 2 months

[young spoke]

2 weeks but you dont use it at all for the first week

[spiral mica]

no rgb=battery life

[worldly garden]

Hey you know, if u want to stick with budget full size, fine

[spiral mica]

well its dry cells but still

[young spoke]

ok anyway

[worldly garden]

Just dont complain it here when it is malfunctioned or smth

[young spoke]

good 98% keyboards under £100?

[young spoke]

i think thats perfectly good reason to complain

[worldly garden]

We gave u some better alternative solutions which is more budget wised for you but seems like u dont like it

[spiral mica]

infi100

[young spoke]

you did not give me an alternative

[spiral mica]

only budget full size that doesnt suck ass

well the company is a dickhead but its products are good

[young spoke]

"budget"

[spiral mica]

yes

[worldly garden]

U didnt happy with a 65% /tkl + numpad

[spiral mica]

taobao

[young spoke]

$150 is more then my budget

[spiral mica]

try taobao

its like 60 pounds on taobao

[young spoke]

£137.5 on there

[worldly garden]

They are 99.99 here

[spiral mica]

599rmb=~60 pounds

[young spoke]

included shipping?

[spiral mica]

no

I dont know where you live bro

[young spoke]

i found that exact one with £70 extra shipping

[spiral mica]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I have no other recommendations for anything with a pad then

[young spoke]

ok

[worldly garden]

Buy 5 numpads

20%*5

[spiral mica]

[worldly garden]

Ortho linear at home :

[spiral mica]

hyper 7 lets go

stab tuning challenge

[young spoke]

how much is one numpad

[worldly garden]

Depends

[young spoke]

whatever

[spiral mica]

no idea I dont buy numpads

[young spoke]

i dont see any alternatives so im buying the aula f99

[worldly garden]

Akko 3098

[young spoke]

from where?

[worldly garden]

10 millions colorways

[spiral mica]

nah akko 3xxx sucks when stock

they are decent when modded but stock is just

[young spoke]

i am using it stock

[worldly garden]

Worse than keychron, better than most budgets

[spiral mica]

better than K series

[young spoke]

i want something that wont break after like a year and a couple months

[spiral mica]

you should get RK

[worldly garden]

I will take a logi k120 over any k serires

[worldly garden]

Still working

[young spoke]

what is that

[spiral mica]

honestly keyboards dont rly break (unless its rk)

[worldly garden]

My keuboard

[spiral mica]

vintages still work fine

[worldly garden]

Or u intended to

[spiral mica]

(I tried)

not the smartest move

[worldly garden]

Well i did try to apply a supper thick pe foam on this keyboard

Their hotswap socket popped out and stick to the tape mod

[boreal rivet]

buy an AEK

[spiral mica]

I am actually suprised no socket popped on me yet

I push the plate full of switches back to the pcb all the time

[spiral mica]

rare recommendation that is not a realforce

[young spoke]

wanted to look at this too

[worldly garden]

Oh my god go away

[young spoke]

battlefield 4 reference

[worldly garden]

U can consider a monsgeek m2/m5w

[boreal rivet]

only good option for poors

[young spoke]

ill buy this instead

[spiral mica]

any keychron besides the most basic K series would be better than aula

[spiral mica]

dont

time to find the RK archive

[worldly garden]

Yes, best ones

Good pixk

[young spoke]

i have that somewhere

[worldly garden]

That imgur ablum is legendary

[young spoke]

like 40 keyboards broke

[modest condor]

https://imgur.com/a/royal-kludge-is-good-brand-you-should-buy-keyboards-x7LTFwp

[spiral mica]

I couldnt find my imgur app lol

[worldly garden]

@charred plank this set will look good on ir navy neo

Give it some contrast

[modest condor]

this would also look nice https://drop.com/buy/gmk-white-on-black-custom-keycap-set

[spiral mica]

kabukicho r1

I wish they brought back the r1 colorway for r2

r2 looks so ass

[worldly garden]

Are they on sale rn

[charred plank]

Not my style but it would look good

I have some cerakeys coming in soon

[young spoke]

ok just ordered aula f99

[quartz dew]

oh

hall effect then i guess

but these magnetic keyboards cant be good sounding?

[cunning anvil]

new layout practice

[crisp patrol]

steno layout?

[cunning anvil]

nah some homebrew minimal colemak

[crisp patrol]

is there layers?

like to make some letters

it looks like it on the diagram

[cunning anvil]

combos

i dont think via has them

[crisp patrol]

yeah

[crisp patrol]

wdym

it has fn1-5 iirc

[worldly garden]

Good is subjective

[crisp patrol]

he = slop

[worldly garden]

Peg board ?

[worldly garden]

Thock

[young spoke]

wonder if the hi98 is better

[bitter oar]

it is

[boreal rivet]

fc980c is better

[slow ice]

i shared with the floaters already but figure everyone else would like my new work keyboard

[worldly garden]

I wont really recommend display ur boards behind ur door

What if u drop it

[supple oxide]

Anybody can suggest any creamy sounding keyboards?

[worldly garden]

Evo80

[supple oxide]

link? Please

[north nest]

I am undecided between a Logitech G413 SE, Endorfy GK650K and Keychron K8 Pro (doesn't have TK tho) (Austria) Any opinions?

[bitter oar]

k8 pro is the best out of those but that one is bad as well

[cunning anvil]

combos?

[crisp patrol]

ye

[worldly garden]

https://www.qwertykeys.com/products/evo80

[supple oxide]

Thank you

[worldly garden]

The oat switch with pp switch option

I just bought one for a newbie friend and he loves it

I do not personally, i aimed for higher pitched sound

[supple oxide]

Im a little iffy in-between if i like creamy or poppy sounding keyboards as well

[crisp patrol]

[north nest]

I am open for suggestions, budget is best price to performance and under 100€ including shipping and all (here in Austria)

[bleak iris]

is the attack shark k75 rgb a good kb

[bitter oar]

oh, right aliexpress can’t ship to you?

[north nest]

They do, i just dont want to buy from them

[bitter oar]

why

[worldly garden]

I believe there arw some vendors in EU region

And u dont have o buy from ali

[worldly garden]

Evo80 got both iirc

[rigid mortar]

Does it look good the keycaps style I made?

[cunning anvil]

thats not layers?

[modest condor]

99% sure VIA does not have combos

tap dance and combos is a Vial thing

[cunning anvil]

is a "not a via" thing, not just a vial thing :)

probably more a qmk thing in this context but

zmk go brr

[modest condor]

i was just talking about via vs vial

[cunning anvil]

fair

[modest condor]

via can fuck off

Vial >

[cunning anvil]

fr

[modest condor]

never used zmk

dont really care about wireless keyboards

[north nest]

What keyboard do you recommend then?

[cunning anvil]

if you like vial over qmk fair

but its not just the wirelesss

it's just simpler for certain designs

hell none of my zmk boards are wireless

most don't even have wireless capabilities

rp2040 go brr

[modest condor]

rp2040 is goated

[crisp patrol]

what's the difference

[open fulcrum]

How much force is too much on a keyboard?

Im afraid of breaking the board

Update, I’m getting it, just it’s a bit stressing (probably doesn’t help to have cats around)

[cunning anvil]

combos means they press down simultaneously

[crisp patrol]

layers = toggles?

[cunning anvil]

no?

like

shift

[crisp patrol]

so like fn

[cunning anvil]

yeah

well idk if via does layer or taphold

[open fulcrum]

It’s finished, was pretty stressing but very rewarding

[spiral wind]

Can anyone recommend a wireless 75% keyboard for maximum £100

[bitter oar]

sk75 does the job

[spiral wind]

Thanks ✅

[spiral wind]

Would you go for sk75 or corsair k75 plus?

[bitter oar]

for sure not a corsair keyboard

at 100 quid you can get an aluminum keyboard

[spiral wind]

Cheers will order now

[bitter oar]

check other ones as well, there are dozen aluminum 75%’s

barebone kits as well

womier sk75 was just an example but it’s not bad for the price

[spiral wind]

Will do so such a noob for keyboards lol

Iv heard wooting is good

[bitter oar]

do you want customizable actuation? and key function based on how hard you press a key

[spiral wind]

I ideally want the “snappy tappy” feature but don’t really care about the rest, nice sounding pre lubed switches would be a ideal i guess

I got gifted the corsair k100 air so using that currently with my MacBook but want a gaming keyboard

For pc

[bitter oar]

i’m not updated on it but i think it’s still banned, atleast in some valve games

buy HE if you will actually utilize the features, otherwise it’s just a waste of money for worse sound

and more limited switch options as of now

[spiral wind]

Makes sense

[open fulcrum]

You know what would be good? A realforce. Jk

(Should we do realforce jokes when people are asking genuine questions and they probably don’t know a lot)

[bitter oar]

it confuses people no

[crisp patrol]

buy a realforce

[worldly garden]

Filco

[worldly garden]

Mxidjine mentioned

[open fulcrum]

💀💀

[open fulcrum]

Ahh

I will try to avoid making them then

[worldly garden]

Keychron is nice but if u love yourself dont buy k serires and older v serires

[worldly garden]

Buy a realforce

[open fulcrum]

Real

Like real-force

[bitter oar]

forgotforce

[open fulcrum]

Fakeforce

Fakeforce is better anyway

[worldly garden]

What game u are playing

[open fulcrum]

Oh yeah, I got my keyboard built, definitely happy with it

I had no idea how much better it would actually be

[worldly garden]

If u are not an actual sweat then u never have any good reason to by a HE

[worldly garden]

Cool stuff, what did u build ?

[open fulcrum]

Isn’t the advantage very minimal anyway?

[worldly garden]

Only inviduals benefits from them are the top 1%’s of that game

[open fulcrum]

Galaxy 80 with Akko yellow cream pro v3s (and a decent looking keycap set, although I don’t think that matters as much), probably could have done better although it is my first build

[worldly garden]

Not bad for a first build

But akko v3 switches is pretty dated

These days people love to use hmx switches

[open fulcrum]

I was a bit worried about the board being black (the white wasn’t available), although it works out

I can also change out the red keys for white and gray keys as well

Although I like the red keycaps personally

[worldly garden]

U do ?

[open fulcrum]

I definitely played it a bit too safe

[worldly garden]

Dcs red alert

[open fulcrum]

I think so right now, I mean I can always change them later too

It’s not like I’m stuck with a certain set of keycaps for the keyboard

[worldly garden]

Keybort

[open fulcrum]

This is the white and gray keycaps only

(Definitely not the best picture)

[crisp patrol]

tf is that colorway

beige on white is crazy

[worldly garden]

Beige but the designer is on vacation

[open fulcrum]

The listing looked decent to me, so I decided to get it

Is it the best color way? Probably not, could have done better, although I think it looks decent

[crisp patrol]

odd combo

[open fulcrum]

(That could change later on)

[open fulcrum]

I was planning on a white board, which probably would have looked better

[worldly garden]

There is no such thing as “best”. Works to you doesnt mean it works to me

[open fulcrum]

So there’s that

[open fulcrum]

True

[worldly garden]

Just buy gmk wob

[worldly garden]

Plus if u pay over 50 for this keycap set i will be dying laughing

[open fulcrum]

The idea was more of an older looking keyboard, like the white and beige type thing, since that sounded interesting

[open fulcrum]

I think it was like under $15

[open fulcrum]

Like $13 or something with a sell

I believe it’s from womier

[crisp patrol]

I hope you didn't pay too much for those red caps

[open fulcrum]

They came with it

[crisp patrol]

the legends are so off centered

[worldly garden]

For 15 i can get a set of cmk mictlan

And will fit ur set up luke