peripherals

[patent belfry]

yeah they arew

[charred plank]

Especially with thicker pins

Or smaller holes

[patent belfry]

imo the desoldering pump is faster and less cost for maintaining

hot air desoldering throughhole is so dumb tho

[true charm]

Can you recommend a good one?

[patent belfry]

ss-02

[boreal rivet]

all this effort to be beat out by a 104u/980c

[boreal rivet]

hakko 20g is better ime

ss02 just looks slick

[patent belfry]

yes this is also nice

or just build with cherry switches and never have to desolder

[boreal rivet]

realfroc

!

[patent belfry]

it's worth it

[main narwhal]

i was at a rando pawn shop and the dude told me it was for a gamecube

but I could see the VMU slot lol

[patent belfry]

not a huge dreamcast fan

some people love the thing, would be cool if you had a DD emu

[main narwhal]

oops i summoned an rgb demon

[patent belfry]

lol wtf

[main narwhal]

he's angy

[cunning anvil]

corny

i think it's funny realforce man has nothing to say to counter non rowstag boards

[patent belfry]

make it topre!

[main narwhal]

there's a topre corne

[patent belfry]

yeah i saw that

might want to try it

[main narwhal]

the japanese community just be doing wild stuff with split 40s

the corne topre thing was being maintained by gonnoc at some point, and he does like

stuff like this lol

I keep meaning to look into cipulot's replacement pcbs

for tobber boards

[cunning anvil]

non realforce topre, is it as good?

idk anything about it tbh

[main narwhal]

he makes a replacement pcb for realforce too

[cunning anvil]

yeah but rowstag lol

[main narwhal]

the realforce tkls

[cunning anvil]

hmm?

[patent belfry]

i own one of these, they are quite nice

[main narwhal]

my tobber board is a leopold

and then I have a niz board with the domes swapped to deskeys v3 domes

I think I have purple domes in there right now

oh

i didn't know niz did a custom tkl

[true charm]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[patent belfry]

i put topre and mx on the same level

[charred plank]

Decided to do one more mod

Extended the gaskets a bit on the lucky 65 with some double sided tape with a thin foam on the rear mounted behind the silicone gaskets

I still don't like gaskets but it at least makes it all in instead of a kinda hard barely moves gasket mount

[proper dagger]

what are like the best screw in stabs that i can get in stock for a satisfaction 75

[true charm]

Prolly TX AP’s?

[pure sundial]

https://awekeys.com/products/periodic-table-metal-keycaps-single-set?variant=45678882226457

guys

i need it

Fs in chat for my bank account

[boreal rivet]

Mans gotta sleep bruh

[true charm]

Ooof

Getting the whole set?

[pure sundial]

no lol

buttttt

https://awekeys.com/products/full-metal-keycap-set-special-edition-gold-silver-titanium?variant=47538228003097

[true charm]

That’s not even that bad

[true charm]

Yea those look fucking awesome

[pure sundial]

fr

[true charm]

450 bucks (American) isn’t that bad for what they are

I’d need to hear them on a couple boards before ever getting even close to justifying it

But I could see those on a like cyberpunk aesthetic build

Super kitsche

[crisp patrol]

not even the actual metals

[pure sundial]

its electroplated

the titanium ones are CNC

[chilly perch]

realforce more like real membrane

squishy ass

[patent belfry]

spoken like a true person who doesn't own it

[cunning anvil]

realforce more like real expensive for somebody who still experiments with layouts atm

[crisp patrol]

silent mx is probably squishier lmao

[chilly perch]

well yeah but those are awful too

boba u4 is also a terrible switch

[cunning anvil]

outemu lime my beloved

[patent belfry]

skcm cream >

[tacit rose]

ran akko ocean blues for a good part of last year and they're pretty nice for a super cheapo option

[tacit rose]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=123799.0
oohh this looks super fun pricetag not that fun but seems about as much as id expect for something like this

[crisp patrol]

the legendary f25 key

[charred plank]

Glass pad arrived

Honestly huge upgrade

[true charm]

Ttc silent frozen and SBW begs to differ

[true charm]

That looks dumb 💀💀💀

[true charm]

LFG

Looks great

[charred plank]

Thanks 🙏

[tacit rose]

ok lmao

[true charm]

Just seems really cluttered

[tacit rose]

what would be a good keyboard to you

[boreal rivet]

Should’ve figured you were a k1k memer

Explains a lot

[true charm]

https://youtu.be/aPqCBX3H5YM?si=cRFu0o6kzKNBFjT6

to keep with the theme of modularity

[tacit rose]

pangea is pretty nice

[true charm]

I'm pressed

can't wait for it to get here lol

it'll be a good reward for finishing my first year of college 😭

[charred plank]

?

Bro

What did akg do to you

Thing is straight up amazing imo

Both in look and sound

Could be more detailed though

[tacit rose]

it's certainly a
unique look

doesnt look comfy to wear from the photos tho

[charred plank]

It's pretty comfortable

Mainly cause it has a good 🚟 strap with a rubber band mechanism to allow pressure relief

Temple pads are kinda meh

[tacit rose]

i see

[charred plank]

Don't bother me too much

[true charm]

I wanna try these so bad

[charred plank]

But they could be stiffer

Fully restored mine from it previously being a falling apart piece of junk

[true charm]

🔥🔥🔥

[boreal rivet]

stereotype comes true once again

[boreal rivet]

just don't spend any actual money trying to lmao

[charred plank]

Here are some other vintage things I restored

[true charm]

So side note. Is there a reason this is in keyboard chat?

[charred plank]

Went as far as foam matching and finding redoing electroplating to restore some

[true charm]

Or am I having a stroke?

[tacit rose]

average bioocposting

[charred plank]

What stereotype 😭

What do you have against vintage

[boreal rivet]

nothing

[charred plank]

Yea, it's a bit off topic

[boreal rivet]

you think I'm against vintage headphones just because i don't like the k1k and the people associated with it lul

average biooc logic

[charred plank]

Honestly, I should start getting some vintage keyboards to restore too

Bro is being racist to a whole headphone 💀

[pure sundial]

henlo

[charred plank]

"people associated with it"

What on earth

Did this headphone take your family

[tacit rose]

i dont think thats racism
it's just regular discrimination

[pure sundial]

i might have to dial in my spacebar stabilizer, but i dont wanna take my keeb apart again

[charred plank]

Fair

[charred plank]

Screw in stabs?

[tacit rose]

do it the next time u clean out the gamer gunk

[pure sundial]

yup

but-

its rattily

and it brings me pain lmao

[charred plank]

Use the plate and peel them switches off (don't actually do that please)

[tacit rose]

then u may as well disassemble now and scrub the gunk out while youre in there

[pure sundial]

BRO

[pure sundial]

already took it apart yesterday

and did that

[tacit rose]

💀

[pure sundial]

and worked on my spacebar for like 8 hours

it improved, but it didn't fix it all the way

[tacit rose]

condolences

[charred plank]

Try balancing it on a phone glass

[pure sundial]

thats the plan

[charred plank]

It might just be the surface you balanced it on wasn't flat enough

[pure sundial]

either that or ill just go steal another stabilizer

[pure sundial]

i never balanced it in the first place for this one

💀

[charred plank]

What did you spend that 8 hours on the space bar doing?

[pure sundial]

the problem is i dont have any lube rn and i need to buy some the balance it

[pure sundial]

erm

[tacit rose]

yoink some lube from ur friend while ur there stealing their stabs

[pure sundial]

i holee modded it, re lubed it, and made my own switch (after a while of prototyping), re foam modded everything in some spots,

ets...

[charred plank]

Walmart sells lube

[pure sundial]

ayo

[charred plank]

It's just not marketed for keyboards

[pure sundial]

also ayo

hmmmmm

based

[tacit rose]

bruh pretty sure the sex lube is just gonna leak out of the stabs

[pure sundial]

💀

only one way to find out

[charred plank]

Lmao

[tacit rose]

you can get dielectric grease from car places tho right

[charred plank]

Gotta get the gel type for stabilizers

[pure sundial]

yeah

[pure sundial]

OH YEAHH

smart

https://tenor.com/view/trump-maga-point-pointing-smirk-gif-5392952251443564731

[charred plank]

I only need to balance 1 more wire in my board

But I don't care too much to cause it sounds fine

[pure sundial]

backspace?

[charred plank]

Yep

[pure sundial]

knew it lol

no one cares how that one sounds

[tacit rose]

if u run 1u bs u dont need stabs for it

[charred plank]

Balanced shift cause it had some rattle then space cause I was at it anyways and having fun but backspace was just kinda fine already and not as important

[pure sundial]

i actually am pretty happy with how my spacebar sounds rn, maybe in a few days ill order new stabilizers and balance them and that should fix it

[pure sundial]

nice

[charred plank]

Pro tip

You can't get stab rattle if you dont use stabs

[pure sundial]

💀

true

[charred plank]

Just use the center of the buttons as intended

[pure sundial]

i actually one of those ergo spacebars once on a normal 75% keyboard without stabilizers, and it worked well and sounded amazing

the only reason i rly took it off was because i couldn't hit comma and then space fast with it

[charred plank]

Stabilizers are just a fix for bad finger aim

[pure sundial]

frrrr

[grizzled gust]

This is why I use tx lol

Don’t have the patience for the holee mod and all that

[pure sundial]

Lol

[grizzled gust]

Tx long pole sounds like absolute shit on my plateless board

Had to swap those out

Only kept it on the spacebar

[pure sundial]

whats the difference with TX stabs again?

nvm just looked it up

[rain jasper]

I dont know if this is the right place to ask, but Im thinking of spray painting my keyboard (Nuphy Air75) and the wrist rest.
Does anyone have any tips or tricks?

Especially for the wrist rest

[peak scroll]

guys do y'all know any good keyboards for 150$?

im looking for a RGB , hot swappable, 60-75% keyboard and it should be on amazon (can't do custom keyboards cuz of that)

[main narwhal]

there are a handful of custom keyboard kits on Amazon

[charred plank]

The Amazon only route is kinda just shooting yourself in the foot

[main narwhal]

The phrase you'd be looking for is Keyboard Barebones or Keyboard Kit

[charred plank]

You might be able to get a leobog hi75 on Amazon

But you'll be paying a lot more than it costs on AliExpress

[main narwhal]

Key

Probably Keychron

[patent belfry]

[true charm]

https://a.co/d/clSiyZQ

[charred plank]

Imo they don't have any boards that are competitive in that price

[worldly garden]

what is ur reason for not doing a custom

[charred plank]

Amazon

[main narwhal]

i mean if you have to stay on amazon, that'd be the route to go

[charred plank]

Not really

[main narwhal]

maybe one of the chinese vendors with storefronts on amazon might have something, like kprepublic or ymdk

[charred plank]

Even the marked up from AliExpress options are just better cheaper boards

[charred plank]

A hi75 would be much better than a q1 while not requiring him to stretch his budget for example

[charred plank]

Yes

[main narwhal]

probably store credit or something

or amazon credit lol

[charred plank]

Amazon sellers resell things like hi75 at a higher price

[worldly garden]

save up a bit and just get an evo80

for 170

just a bit bigger

[charred plank]

But they're still better and cheaper options

[worldly garden]

https://www.qwertykeys.com/products/evo80?variant=46212766728435

[main narwhal]

neo would be cheaper but still not within budget constraints

and still not on amazon lol

[charred plank]

Actually seems hi75 gets sold direct on amazon

So it's not really marked up

[charred plank]

Looks pretty good tbh

[patent belfry]

I actually like the back design of this

[main narwhal]

I was avoiding recommending epomaker

[patent belfry]

compared to the rest of the budget garbage

[main narwhal]

i don't remember if people like epomaker here lol

[charred plank]

Hi75 is leobog

Tbh though, company politics are a meme reason to screw someone's recommendion

[worldly garden]

keycult inspired

[main narwhal]

i just reccomend whatever

[main narwhal]

if the price is right and its within the budget i'd say go for anything, but community looks down on certain vendors for being froggy lolol

[patent belfry]

all the budget stuff is relatively the same, it's more of a matter of just picking one

and going with it

[charred plank]

I'm so glad I ended up cleaning my glass pad. I unironically thought it was just trash and was gonna give it away to a friend but it just had some sticky residue on it from shipping

[patent belfry]

+-50$ ish

[main narwhal]

outside of vendors not fulfilling things, which is different

[patent belfry]

isop alcohol works wonders

[main narwhal]

or being bad at being a vendor

[charred plank]

Yea, used some and now it's smooth af

[main narwhal]

the new pricing lol

[plucky scarab]

From shit to 10 how bad is this combo

[main narwhal]

does it make you happy lol

[plucky scarab]

YEAH

TWAS FREEEEE

[main narwhal]

hard to argue with that

[charred plank]

^

[edgy saffron]

i mean it’s the cheapest of the cheap

[cunning anvil]

i like things that i can put vial or zmk on lately, but idk if thats far out

[crisp patrol]

slop

[cunning anvil]

look at them traces

[next notch]

does anyone have any experience (or just opinions about it) with the keychron q8 and would care to share it with me (I am quite new to the topic of more advanced mechnical keyboards)?

[charred plank]

What's neo75 cu MSRP supposed to be

[viral moth]

from: https://qwertykeys.notion.site/Neo75-Cu-10c3d0900942806684bfc70bca8e6f8e

[charred plank]

That's pretty cheap tbh

I might get that over lx60

[viral moth]

price is perspective ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[runic schooner]

Looking into some keycaps for a new keyboard for my new setup, however I need help deciding something.

Do you think this is too hard to see with RGB off?

[next notch]

Honestly if you are buying those I would assume you probably aren't gonna be referencing them a whole bunch anyway so it should be fine

[charred plank]

Yea, I'm buying that the day it launches

[true charm]

But copper lx60 is gonna slap. Bowl is S-Tier

[charred plank]

I'll try to eventually get both but I know the neo 75 is gonna be a pain to buy after the first day. That things probably going to go up in price from there

[shadow ridge]

what is that mousepad 😭

[cunning anvil]

a forest

a black land

i thought it was a slab of antistatic wrap at first

[patent belfry]

thocky keyort

[humble fractal]

A dark creepy forest lol if you couldn't tell by the space bar saying weirdo ghost gang I have a certain atheistic

Said aesthetic is mostly chaos but leans toward dark/creepy themed stuff lol

[cunning anvil]

chaos aesthetic is a vibe

[charred plank]

Based

Themed my whole setup around space

[humble fractal]

That's cool af

[runic schooner]

Out of MX Red, MX, Brown, and MX Blue, what would be the best you think?

[humble fractal]

I know red is considered to be the gold standard to alot of people unfortunately I use epomaker Budgerigar so I can't speak from experience I've heard there great tho

[spiral mica]

black blue>brown>red

[crisp patrol]

clears

[runic schooner]

Dont have that option

[spiral mica]

blacks

[boreal rivet]

Realforce is better

[proper dagger]

yellows out of box in regard to like gateron and stuff

its all the same and none of its good

also as far as screw in stabs whats the best of the best in stock and avalible

[ripe anchor]

why do you say unfortunately? i quite like the budgerigar switches actually

especially if you hand lube them, they are very nice imo

[humble fractal]

Oh I phrased that badly lol I like the switch I just meant that unfortunately I can't offer input beyond that as I have no experience

[ripe anchor]

ah fair enough

for a pretty cheap switch they are very nice imo, they sound amazing after i hand lubed the switches and springs, in a keychron board with a tape mod

[humble fractal]

I do intend to try out others just outta curiosity but I got other priorities RN lol so sometimes in the future

[ripe anchor]

definitely, keyboards are an expensive hobby to have lol

[humble fractal]

I have a epomaker kw75

[spiral mica]

cherry clip in c3 wire

[proper dagger]

clip in though i want screw ins

[humble fractal]

Really wanted to build my own and when my apartment caught on fire we weren't allowed in to scavenge for months so I was like well my old razer huntsman is probably screwed anyway I may as well

[ripe anchor]

i do need to get some new stabs for my keychron keyboard, the stock ones are shit and rattle like crazy

[spiral mica]

there is basically no difference between screw and clip

[proper dagger]

clip in is more of a pain to install in my experience

[ripe anchor]

clip in ones bug me as well

[proper dagger]

my old bakeneko used clip ins

[humble fractal]

Now I just need a replacement volume knob and my keyboard will be complete

[spiral mica]

????

how

its just like screw in but without screw

[proper dagger]

and might be a dumb question but are clip ins compatible with all pcbs

[crisp patrol]

[spiral mica]

no

if it supports screw in jt supports clip in

[proper dagger]

its for a satisfaction 75

[spiral mica]

just see if it got the stab holes

[proper dagger]

do you know of any really solid screw in options

i would much prefer screw ins

[spiral mica]

typeplus x yikb

[proper dagger]

where would i buy those thats not based in asia

[ripe anchor]

durock stabilizers are pretty good

[spiral mica]

its overpriced

[proper dagger]

yeah thats whats in my current build

[spiral mica]

and needs modding

[ripe anchor]

and zeal stabilizers are pretty good imo

[proper dagger]

price is not an issue

i did chicken out and get some cannon caps instead of the gmk fuji though

[ripe anchor]

https://drop.com/buy/zeal-pc-transparent-gold-plated-pcb-mount-screw-in-stabilizers

[spiral mica]

owlstab v3 or tx ap 2023

tx 24 is ass from my experience

[crisp patrol]

drop

[proper dagger]

where would i buy those

[proper dagger]

ive had good experiences with drop

the inventory is pretty solid. Ship times and prices are good

how about TX stabalizers?

[spiral mica]

TX AP are decent

clips ins tho

[proper dagger]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/tx-screw-in-stabilizers?_pos=3&_sid=2f9f8d914&_ss=r

[spiral mica]

not sure about their screw in

I like owlstab v3 more than tx tho

[proper dagger]

where do i buy those though

[crisp patrol]

they sell 99% overpriced slop

[proper dagger]

I also need new linear switches

[spiral mica]

eveyrwhere

google

[crisp patrol]

aside from all the stuff normal vendors have

[proper dagger]

im moving these holy panda x into my new satisfaction 75. then i need new linears to put into my gmmk pro

[spiral mica]

broken in mx blacks if you like clack

[proper dagger]

i want just whatevers best and i can buy pre lubed with 205g0

i dont want to spend hours lubin them myself

[spiral mica]

best is subjective

[proper dagger]

i like medium actuation force a bit clackier

i liked the TKC banana splits i used to have in my bakeneko

[spiral mica]

hmx

blue topaz or cloud

if you like claxk

[proper dagger]

what do you know about the strawberry wine v2s

i see those getting good ratings

[spiral mica]

never heard of them

bsun switches are mostly decent tho

[proper dagger]

https://www.customkeysco.com/category/hand-lubed-switches

mainly looking through this list

[spiral mica]

just get hmx if you want lube

best factory lube

hand lubed switches arent worth it

[proper dagger]

in my mind they are

its not a huge price difference

[spiral mica]

get broken in, lubed mx black then

🤌 clacky

[proper dagger]

im thinking hmx gravel

so now the new build should be a black satisfaction 75x with holy panda x lubed and broken in, modded and broken in durock v3 stabalizers, and nicepbt grayscale for keycaps

[boreal rivet]

Wack

Realforce is better

[proper dagger]

thats a prebuilt

id rather have something i can personalize

old build will have whatever stabs i pick out, the gravel switches and generaic wob keycaps double shot pbt on a gmmk pro

[spiral mica]

"broken durock v3"

[boreal rivet]

Your loss

[spiral mica]

what the fuck

[proper dagger]

im gonna pass on some random pre built

[proper dagger]

they sound really nice theres no ping or anything

[spiral mica]

you dont break in stabs

[boreal rivet]

Random prebuilt is better than 95% of customs

[proper dagger]

my bad

[spiral mica]

good prebuilts are fire

[proper dagger]

"better" is subjective

[spiral mica]

like filco and leopold

[boreal rivet]

You should do what my friend did and skip to endgame

[proper dagger]

i like the control of the exact switches, keycap profile and layout and feature

[boreal rivet]

Dude settled on a Hhkb and Mx blacks in a month

[crisp patrol]

hhkb and mx clears

[spiral mica]

damn

only missing SKCM/SKCL

[crisp patrol]

[boreal rivet]

Too much effort tbh

[proper dagger]

there is no "endgame"

theres only the collection

[boreal rivet]

Says every newbie

[spiral mica]

hhkb is my endgame

[crisp patrol]

I have a NIB M0116J if that counts

[proper dagger]

people who are at so called "endgame" just cant afford multiple

[tacit rose]

i wanna try ergo clears but i keep hearing about how the stems are ever so slightly bigger and can crack ur keycaps
and i dont really wanna buy a stem shaver lol

[proper dagger]

i like different layouts and different switch types for different things

[crisp patrol]

mostly happens with gmk and random aliexpress slop

[spiral mica]

try topre

literally ruins mx experience

[crisp patrol]

aged topre*

I hate new topre

[tacit rose]

one is significantly more painful than the other 😭

[spiral mica]

hhkb stock domes are fine

dont like RF ones tho

[crisp patrol]

I have an entire keyboard with gmk caps using mx clears

[tacit rose]

i hope they dont crack

[crisp patrol]

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Weytec_Mk06

imagine not having a gmk keyboard

[tacit rose]

wao

[boreal rivet]

Wbu?

[boreal rivet]

I have these, a 980c and moon tkl sitting around while I use my endgame 87u

[spiral mica]

takling about 980c

is it discontinued like 660c or no

[crisp patrol]

muh xerox

[spiral mica]

I still see it on leopold website

[boreal rivet]

That’s the last of their inventory

[spiral mica]

big sad

[crisp patrol]

what does the xerox have in it again?

[proper dagger]

and im swapping between a full custom gmmk pro, bakeneko, tofu, and satisfaction

[boreal rivet]

Don’t talk about endgame then

[proper dagger]

if im coding or writing i love my gmmk pro but for different games my other keyboard are good

[spiral mica]

just saying but those boards are ass

[boreal rivet]

Oh forgot to add in the 5140 I also have

[boreal rivet]

Browns

Nothing too special

[crisp patrol]

still worth $$$

[boreal rivet]

I want to restore it but the case is warped

And it’s too much work for me to bother fixing that rn

[crisp patrol]

ouch

[crisp patrol]

I have 2 cases and 1 set of caps to retrobrite

plus a fuckton of alps to boil

god I've had the alps shit since march

[edgy saffron]

thoughts on wrist rests? good or bad?

[crisp patrol]

that's depressing to think about

I've only sold all the salmons and all but 2 or so batches of oranges

[boreal rivet]

I think I’ve had some of it since 2022 lol

The deals were too good to resist

[crisp patrol]

same here except I found out it wasn't really a good deal because the hobby is dead compared to the peak during covid and all the caps were worthless besides the apple ones

[boreal rivet]

I bought them because I like them

[crisp patrol]

I bought to restore and sell

it was a shit idea looking back

the most good that came out of it was like

the cream dampeneds and 5140 caps

[cunning anvil]

endgame layout :D

[crisp patrol]

5140 layout is 65% if it was good

[cunning anvil]

idk what i want still

currently about to test a 4x12 unibody split slab with a half numrow

but im out of solder

and need to order more

i think i could get away with a 3x5

split

have you heard of pg1316M/S?

[tiny bridge]

I have been thinking about switching to a different keyboard and I was hoping to seek any Topre Keyboard users and ask how their experience has been using a Topre Board,

[boreal rivet]

Good

[spiral mica]

lifechanging if you ask me

[fleet scroll]

if you want to rest your wrists theyre good

[peak scroll]

not available in my region

[peak scroll]

whats a good keychron for that range 150-180$

[boreal rivet]

Realforce

[true charm]

why tf would you ever get that when HE exists

Domes 🤢

[boreal rivet]

You know topre is contactless too right

[true charm]

and yet you chose the contactless with rubber domes 💀

[boreal rivet]

Yeah because it’s good?

[true charm]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[boreal rivet]

You’re judging it based on inferior implementations

Pretty close minded

[true charm]

I hear actual people in custom keyboard communities talking about HE. the only time I see people talking about domes is in really niche cursed switch mods

[shadow ridge]

im thinking about getting a realforce, should i?

[boreal rivet]

You must not be in the right places

[boreal rivet]

Yes

[true charm]

no

[boreal rivet]

The real experienced people mostly talk in private servers

And there isn’t much to say about topre anyway

[true charm]

MFW I'm talking to vendors and community members who have been in the hobby longer than most people on this server have been kicking around.

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[boreal rivet]

👍

This hobby really only started taking off around 2014

Not sure wym

Most vendors came in during the Covid boom

I’m talking about people from before that

[true charm]

🫡

that's why so many people are buying topre keyboards in 2024

[boreal rivet]

Most people simply aren’t deep enough or dip out before they get to topre 🤷‍♂️

Like you really

[cunning anvil]

There's more than one rabbit hole you can go down

[boreal rivet]

You should buy a hhkb

[boreal rivet]

Yeah it’s Mx black, topre and alps

And ergo ig

[cunning anvil]

you got there in the end

[boreal rivet]

I never really got mx black

And brown

They’re alright I guess

[cunning anvil]

theyre just switches

[boreal rivet]

Yeah in the end lol

[cunning anvil]

Have you heard of the pg1316s?

make a 30% that fits in a deck of cards

[boreal rivet]

I’d be happy to use those cheap Logitech membranes at my job since I’d be getting paid anyway

[cunning anvil]

40 if im lucky

[boreal rivet]

What’s that

An IC?

[cunning anvil]

Switches, kailh scissor kinda things

smd soldered

need to make a plate >.>

[boreal rivet]

Oh they’re clones of those cherry lps

With a clickbar

[cunning anvil]

no thats pg1350

i mean the scissors

[boreal rivet]

wtf are these names

[cunning anvil]

not my idea lol

idve called them something stupid like steve

[boreal rivet]

Would be nice if someone made a full size with these

[cunning anvil]

16 or 50

[boreal rivet]

The cherry ones on the k100 air were really nice

[cunning anvil]

Choc/Kailh scissor is best distinction i could find

idk

scissor seems to be 1425

https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/comments/1cfg3vr/mikefive_a_kailh_pg1316_keyboard/

look at this bean

[boreal rivet]

I saw

[cunning anvil]

i want to try the 1316s used in that

but also 1316M (frow size)

thinking of doing 2 rows M, 2 rows S

5 columns

bam a 40

well gotta fold it in half but wireless is prob slim enough to fit with case into a deck

worst case some kinda magic deck

oof looks heavy

they do have 35gf variant though

still need a hotplate to assemble

oh no

[boreal rivet]

They’ve got a hotswap one

https://m.kailhswitch.com/mechanical-keyboard-switches/hot-swappable-ultra-thin-notebook-switch.html

[tame thistle]

1.4k Philippine Pesos

Good enough?

[worldly garden]

Reddragon

[tame thistle]

I like this kind of keyboard layout

[patent belfry]

certainly a keyboard

[boreal rivet]

@patent belfry did you see this

[patent belfry]

@true charm grow up

[worldly garden]

HE sounds like shit

[crisp patrol]

he is inferior in every way to topre besides its featureset for gaming, the convenience, and the cost

[fleet wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/buy-cherry-mx-browns-shut-up-browns-gif-24919363

[patent belfry]

reds only

[crisp patrol]

do they feel good

[fleet wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[patent belfry]

why wouldnt they

they are literally the same as blacks

[fast dove]

guys i am looking a 75% keyboard with tactile switches up to 150 dolars have any recomendations

[crisp patrol]

light springs smh

[patent belfry]

assuming someone of culture uses stock cherry springs should be a hate crime

[patent belfry]

go to walmart

[crisp patrol]

true

do vint reds exist

[patent belfry]

no

[fast dove]

there is no walmart in turkey :d

[patent belfry]

the equivalent

[crisp patrol]

blacks on top

[patent belfry]

retooled reds are what im using

[fast dove]

if i say there is no equivalent would you believe 😄

cause you would 😦

[patent belfry]

go to an electronics store and buy a keyboard

[crisp patrol]

are they cheaper than blacks from any vendors you buy from

[patent belfry]

go on facebook, buy gamer boards with reds

thats the way

[fast dove]

i am kinda looking for a custom keyboard

[crisp patrol]

real shit

you're spring swapping anyways

[fast dove]

reds are kinda gay to be honest

thats why i like em

[patent belfry]

[fast dove]

[patent belfry]

i have 80g tx and gon stickers

[crisp patrol]

gon stickers?

[patent belfry]

yuh

[crisp patrol]

what is gon

[slow hare]

leaving this here.

[patent belfry]

gotta upgrade the kb game now

[patent belfry]

gon

[crisp patrol]

viper mini se
hawk tuah deskpad

[chilly perch]

you ought to be exploded for that

[waxen charm]

guys is this a nifty find for 20 bucks? its a mint condition BTC 5060 which is a clone of the IBM pc AT keyboard

[chrome raft]

decent

[waxen charm]

im not sure what port it uses, and all the pictures are really grainy 😭

[spiral mica]

5 pin din connector?

[wheat elm]

Looks like a pretty standard din connector you'd find on the Model F XT and AT

My Zenith ZKB-2 also has this connector.

[wheat elm]

If you did end up buying it you would need this to use it: https://www.ebay.com/itm/385607912016

Those keyboards speak in XT, which isn't understood by dumb adaptors even to PS/2

[waxen charm]

🫶

i know my modern connectors but if it predates like 2010 i have 0 idea 😭

[wheat elm]

You can probably find an IBM Model F for under 100 bucks if you look hard enough

Typing this on my 122 key one lol (not under 100 bucks)

[waxen charm]

i might just stalk facebook marketplace!!

whats the consensus on ibm model ms

[wheat elm]

Model Ms are well liked. The Model F is its predecessor, with an odd layout but even higher quality switches

The Model Fs have full N key rollover which is nice for gaming (though it matters far less than you'd think).

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/269535523922509826/853050510265286706/IMG_20210423_202438.jpg?ex=6712ecb2&is=67119b32&hm=d71e837239b5002e9dd0151aee182b97ca21e69165f08febeefae32886f42476&

[waxen charm]

i might jump on it but ill give it some thought

thanks for the advice! i literally use a 5 dollar membrane keyboard rn soooo

[wheat elm]

There are better ways to go than this haha

Especially factoring in the price of the adapter

Many good modern keyboards for the budget

[waxen charm]

very true, i had a mechanical one but it broke and old ones are nifty

[crisp patrol]

it matters a lot after you experience 2kro

I wouldn't really game on vint boards but that doesn't mean they aren't great typing boards

[waxen charm]

tbh the only games I play are like KSP and openttd 😭

and an old keyboard is very time accurate to ksp

[wheat elm]

Mine has worked great but I guess NKRO isn't the most common vintage feature out there

[crisp patrol]

some cherry boards have it

[wheat elm]

Many Alps boards too yep

My ZKB-2 I believe has it

[crisp patrol]

my m0116j has 2kro not counting mods

[wheat elm]

Never checked my M0117AB. Bought it mainly for the Arabic keycaps :p

[crisp patrol]

[wheat elm]

Not a picture of mine since I took it apart and yoinked the keycaps almost immediately

The seller pulled a fast one on me and took the Salmon Alps out of it, replacing them with Cream Alps. Total scammer but I bought for the caps anyway :p

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/378255567426420736/829903889921998908/IMG_20210408_222125.jpg?ex=67126efa&is=67111d7a&hm=a39f6b820d567c06c910343d187b0dcb7ec556e318a361e1123e08acd1b9701e&

An image of mine disassembled

Beware of sketchy Egyptian keyboard sellers I guess. Bonus was the machete slash on one of the caps from border security taking a peek.

[boreal rivet]

I wonder if they were replaced simply because wear and tear got to them

[crisp patrol]

was it a working board

[wheat elm]

Yep the board did work. I still have it.

If I'm gonna type on Cream Alps though I'll just use my AEK II

[crisp patrol]

you should erm

put some salmons back in it

that board is nice as fuck

aside from the dude who decided to take the salmons

[wheat elm]

Yeah it is a beautiful board. The keycaps especially

[crisp patrol]

a retrobrite away from perfection

[wheat elm]

Mine isn't as yellow

It did have a lot of sand in it though. Again, Egypt

[patent belfry]

yap

[crisp patrol]

[heady compass]

would krytox 205g0 be fine for stabilizers?

the ones on my keychron v1 have been de-gooped from cleaning it once every 3-ish months for the past 2 years and i need to redo em

[spiral mica]

g0 works for most things

[patent belfry]

xhtbdz

then you'll never have to redo it

[spiral mica]

^

[bronze thistle]

You should try the AEK-971 if you're in an infantry map. Best weapon for this scenario, though the MTAR-21, my personal favourite, is not a bad alternative if you're in Op. Locker or Metro.

[spiral elbow]

Yo so I asked this a few days ago in the wrong channel, but I was wondering what low-profile mechanical keyboards you all would recommend that work well with MacOS. Was looking to buy one for my mom as a gift, and I specifically thought a low-profile one would be best because she has carpal tunnel. She says she likes the sound of the keyboard I use (gateron brown), and she says she liked using her old school mechanical keyboard when she worked at a news agency in the late 80s

My dad has a low profile one for that same reason, but I can't remember what model he uses. My mom has been using the default apple keyboard for many years, so I thought something new would be refreshing

[worldly garden]

keychron keyboards

[spiral mica]

lofree

choc if you can find a board with it, kinda hard tho

[charred plank]

What's the budget even?

[spiral elbow]

Probs around 90 - 100 USD

[charred plank]

What size do they need?

If you can do 75% the hi75 would probably fit in that budget with some nice switches and some nice pbt AliExpress caps

[spiral mica]

"low profile"

[charred plank]

Thought he was looking for low profile for his dad and normal for his mom @spiral mica

[spiral elbow]

I think actually probably TKL

I don't think my mom uses numpad much at all

[spiral mica]

keychron is basically the only option for pre built low profile tkl

[spiral elbow]

Ah ok, I'm looking at their website now

I'll take a look and consider the options, thanks y'all I appreciate it 👍

[charred plank]

Yea, low profile doesn't leave you with as many options

I completely skimmed over the part saying low profile for your mom

Sorry about that

[spiral elbow]

It's ok, I appreciate everyone's help

[bronze thistle]

Consider one of the Alice layout one's, since she's got carpal tunnel the lite ergo layout might offer some relief

[spiral elbow]

Cool, I'll look at it

Don't have much experience with ergo keyboards yet

[patent belfry]

hi guys my mom is looking for a custom keyboard

[main narwhal]

Lol wat

[patent belfry]

someone looking for a mom keyboard

[charred plank]

Neo75 seems just straight up busted value

I'm buying it the minute of launch

[young spoke]

it’s £200 lol

[patent belfry]

I would have bought their ergo to try if I didn't have erghost and dolice

[charred plank]

For what it is that's insanely cheap

[young spoke]

it’s a 75% keyboard?

it has a small screen on it

[charred plank]

It doesn't have a screen

Also, the size of the keyboard doesn't really say much about what it's worth

[young spoke]

oh i be looking at the wrong one tee hee

[young spoke]

what does it have?

[charred plank]

It's probably one of the sexiest copper boards I've seen

[young spoke]

ok?

is the copper worth £200?

[charred plank]

Is the copper in a 14900k worth $5?

No

But it's also not a raw copper recycling buy

[edgy saffron]

isnt it just the 75% version of the neo80?

[bronze thistle]

So it's a 60%?

[charred plank]

No

[edgy saffron]

Whats the difference?

[charred plank]

Completely different body design philosophy and aesthetic and weight and options

[prime mirage]

im looking for a under $150 magnetic keyboard any suggestions?

[prime mirage]

is the drunk deer a75 pro any good?

[patent belfry]

thocky keyboard

[prime mirage]

what

[patent belfry]

yuh hurd

[prime mirage]

Is the drunk deer a good magnetic tho

Without spending wooting 80he money

[patent belfry]

I don't buy budget stuff, no clue

[smoky comet]

Keychron crooks are so bad

Worst spring ping ive ever seen in any keyboard

[patent belfry]

that's not spring ping dildo

[magic wolf]

Bros acting like youre bound to gateron reds

[prime mirage]

Welp

Just ordered the drunk deer

[boreal rivet]

Should’ve bought a gx1

[prime mirage]

Bros trolling

[boreal rivet]

Nah

[tired current]

Any recommendations for a cheap entry level keyboard for gaming

[fleet scroll]

this is a stupid question but does anyone know how much roughly this would sell for?

custom gmk67 with akko v3 cream yellows

[fast dove]

where you living

[thick totem]

prolly like 30-35$ ngl

maybe less

from what i can see

[fast dove]

cap

[thick totem]

i have akko cream yellows

they arent crazy expensive

and gmk67 isnt too expensive either

doesnt break £20

[fast dove]

yeah you are right

[thick totem]

fr

[fast dove]

if its in good condition 30 is max ig

can someone recommend me a keyboard around 70 to 100 or a bit more

[patent belfry]

30$ maximum

[worldly garden]

35 if u are lucky

[thick totem]

keep for a collection honestly

unless u desperately need the cash

[fleet scroll]

yeahwill do

[patent belfry]

it's something nobody really wants

[prime mirage]

$20 if lucky

[boreal rivet]

Should’ve bought a realforce

Then you wouldn’t have to worry about keyboard depreciation

[patent belfry]

caring about resell value of a keyboard over how you personally like it, is poor people/hypebeast activity

go buy some jordans or something

[charred plank]

I've seen some people use that reasoning as to why they won't buy hifiman

Imo, I don't ever buy something with the intention to resell it so I just consider what it's worth to me

But I also see how it's a fair take

If you know you're gonna resell something

I've also seen it as an argument for buying i7 CPUs over cheaper options

[patent belfry]

thats big brain rot

regarding cpus

[patent belfry]

hifiman is nice, i will never understand the memes

[boreal rivet]

meh

the only good product they have is susvara

[patent belfry]

I liked most of their planar stuff

still using LC2s, don't think I'll ever get new headphones

[pallid ocean]

my keyboard has silicon inside, but with it, my gasket performance is way weaker. Should I remove it for more gasket performance or leave it in ?

[fleet scroll]

i am a poor person

[charred plank]

He560v4

He1000

[boreal rivet]

wrong

wrong

[charred plank]

Arguably for the price 400se although I'm not a big fan

[boreal rivet]

wrong again

[charred plank]

Wym wrong

[boreal rivet]

though tbh i dont care what you think

so stop thanks

[charred plank]

I've owned them and they're pretty amazing

Especially he1000

And he560 is just broken value

Unfair to the rest of the market imo

For someone listening to mainly bassy genre he6 too

Or he6seV2

Haven't used this one but edition xs

I see so many people happy with that one too

Arya for people who love sound stage

[charred plank]

You're just saying wrong to something subjective to someone with experience with the product saying it's good

You could maybe also have experience with those and not have liked them

But to say hifiman makes only 1 good headphone like it's some fact is crazy talk

[boreal rivet]

yap more lil bro

your subjective experience is not more valid than mine simply because you write more

[patent belfry]

funny stuff going on today

[charred plank]

Bro

Why are you so angry at headphones?

First you make some odd discriminatory statement about "akg people"

And now hifiman 😭

Next bros gonna demand we put all sennheisers in a camp to bring back the glory of Bose or something

[boreal rivet]

No need to twist my words, i just said the k1k memer stereotype came true

and I was right

and it seems like anger then sure i guess

I'm not the one writing paragraphs to defend a headphone company

[charred plank]

Bro is being discriminatory to headphones

[boreal rivet]

discriminatory how?

saying something is bad is discrimination huh

I expected no less from you

[charred plank]

"k1k member stereotype"

What on earth does that even mean

[boreal rivet]

here I'll explain it nicely for you

the people who love the k1k are always a certain kind of person

and you fit that description

hence the stereotype came true

easy enough yes?

[charred plank]

Inb4 "k1k is ruining Germany"

Idk, these statements kinda seem crazy to me

Acting like k1k ownership is a "type of people" and acting like hifiman are all bad objectively and someone saying they liked something from them is "wrong".

[boreal rivet]

what does germany have to do with any of this???

I can say you're wrong just like you can behave like you're right

have you ever gone outside??

[charred plank]

Germany part is jus me poking fun at the absurdity.

[patent belfry]

i would like them to answer this question specifically

[charred plank]

I'm not even going to entertain this. It's just childish.

<@&750150305383186585>

[boreal rivet]

it's telling when they're astonished by opposing opinions

[boreal rivet]

you don't have to.

no one asked you to

[charred plank]

I don't mind opposing opinions

[boreal rivet]

I made it clear I don't care what you say

and you keep going

[charred plank]

It's just absurd to use some made up stereotype to discriminate in general. More crazy when it's around a headphone...

[patent belfry]

yall gotta relax

[boreal rivet]

discriminating who?

do you know how stereotypes come about?

[charred plank]

Again, I'm not even going to entertain this absurdity

[patent belfry]

hi guys I'm building a keyboard

[charred plank]

@patent belfry what board?

[patent belfry]

Perry Works iU

now i have JiU and iU boards

[boreal rivet]

Oh boo Hoo 😭

Another annoying gnat stops interacting with me

Thank god

[charred plank]

@patent belfry do you plan to get neo 75 when it launches?

[patent belfry]

vintage browns, tx medium 80g, gon sticker
trying to pick a plate

[charred plank]

Sounds cool. I really should try getting some vintage keyboards to restore

Honestly love restoring vintage headphones and hardware so I'd probably love doing the same to keyboards

[patent belfry]

i dont like 75%, i would have bought into the ergo to try it out if i didnt already have a dolice

yes i own a 75

[charred plank]

Fair

Imo it looks really exciting

Gonna try and get one the day of launch

I am falling into the hype train

[patent belfry]

i think the TKD 75% is a little better designed

https://clickclack.io/products/tkd-pt1-75-mechanical-keyboard-kit

not sure if you've seen that, but it has 4 brass weights iirc

[crisp patrol]

finally a normal looking 75%

[patent belfry]

wts my whale

buy it

kustom 75%

[crisp patrol]

isn't that the red one with the pom blanks

[patent belfry]

yes

i got 3 pcbs 3 plates

[crisp patrol]

crazy

[charred plank]

Now I want to get this one too 😭

[worldly garden]

Lilac is cool

[nimble void]

question
so i cleaned my keyboard today
and since i did
my shift key somehow doesnt work always
if i blow into the switch
it works for a couple of mins
then it doesnt work anymore

[patent belfry]

unironically it seems pretty nice

i def would do soldered pcb and a nice non meme plate

[dawn swan]

another victim of shitty contacts in cherry style switches

ultra sensitive to dust and debris and finicky

replace the switch or blast contact cleaner/alcohol and re lube

or do one better and get a hall effect board

[dawn swan]

replying to this

[boreal rivet]

Realforce is better

[spiral mica]

they are far from being sensitive to dust

especially not the contact

[cunning depot]

I picked up the ASUS ROG Strix Scope II w/ the NX Snow linear switches. Anyone have any experience with it?

Picked it up at a pretty significant discount

[spiral mica]

bad board, but for 68 its alright I guess

the switches are pretty good for a gamer board

[worldly garden]

ami suppose to cut these

[spiral mica]

cant see shit

cut whast

[patent belfry]

sounds like a cherry clone buyer

[worldly garden]

I figured it out

[dawn swan]

ive owned and used several keyboards with genuine cherry MX switches and even some cherry branded keyboards its not a flawless product

shitty technology compared to most of the other alternatives in mechanical boards

like capacitive/hall effect/optical

all 3 are better except maybe optical in some cases

[smoky comet]

I can confirm

[spiral mica]

hall effect is not any better than mx

it requires too many sensors to be stable and is too sensitive to the surroundings

even temperature can affect it

also none of the 3 kinds of switches are mechanical

[boreal rivet]

those are sensing methods

and the switches that use them are mechanisms

[charred plank]

I am tempted to sand off the anodizing on my lucky 65 and redoing it myself with a blue and purple pattern

[pallid ocean]

Why are knobs always so hard to remove

[crisp patrol]

@cunning anvil do you have a github acc or something with repos for your boards?

[patent belfry]

sk1d

[round venture]

what do you guys think of the whirlwind fx element v2

[charred plank]

I redesigned the lucky 65 gasket mount in a way that made me actually decide I can like gasket mounting

I cut the top half of the slide on gaskets to make room, placed a thin 3m double sided tape on the other side, and put a roughly 3mm thick layer of polyethylene on the taped side. I also mounted a really thin and small square of foam on the center of the board to act like a slight stabilizer fot the board itself

[spiral mica]

works as a keyboard

[iron gazelle]

Looking at getting a somewhat custom keyboard but have no clue what would be good for a beginner

I was looking at a case that already had the pcb and silicon/foam in it and it just needs switches and keycaps but very mixed reviews

Is there a good place to start

[spiral mica]

whats ur budget

and preferred size

[iron gazelle]

75%

I’d like to stay around $150 but definitely not higher than $200

[spiral mica]

neo75, bridge 75

[iron gazelle]

Bet

[gleaming nimbus]

https://store.monokei.co/products/series-2-keycaps?variant=44376638062817

What are these style of keycaps called

looking for smth similar for low profile keyboard if possible

[prime mirage]

Just low profile keycaps

[gleaming nimbus]

i mean specifically the more flat-ness and possibly concave middle

[prime mirage]

Yeah

That’s just low profile

[gleaming nimbus]

without the curved edges

[placid linden]

find it kinda funny these 2 were my best scores

[fast dove]

hey guys i am thinking to get yunzii b75 pro. is it good ?

[worldly garden]

Neo75 released ?

[spiral mica]

about to I think

[charred plank]

End of the month

[worldly garden]

Have to get the stabs done and switches

[untold egret]

looking for a 60% keyboard under 200usd

[worldly garden]

Neo65, qk65n

Maybe old tofu 2.0 if yk what u are doing

[patent belfry]

so many thocky keyboards in the chat today

[cunning anvil]

i just finished soldering 55 diodes

backwards

[patent belfry]

lol

[cunning anvil]

yeah better luck next time

[arctic shuttle]

Chat I need a new keyboard, what's something that has that marble thocc?

[worldly garden]

Aristole

[chilly saddle]

mr suit

[timber zinc]

I am looking for a high quality keyboard to replace mine and I was wondering if this is a good option https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k10-pro-qmk-via-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40618617307225

or this https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k10-max-qmk-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=41905387274329

[pure sundial]

I think I’ve got a few to many keyboards

[worldly garden]

Too less

Get more

[fast dove]

get at least a hundred more

[spiral mica]

bad

k series is ass

very overpriced

for slightly more you can get v series

[boreal rivet]

V series is very overpriced

For slightly more you can get a realforce

[spiral mica]

real

and for slightly less a filco

[worldly garden]

Stop giving me ideas

Wallet burnt

[cunning anvil]

thinking of making a reversible pcb based on reviung34 split (mk2?)

single mcu

[charred plank]

Do you actually need full size?

[timber zinc]

Yes I do

May I ask why they are ass?

[charred plank]

K series?

I'll point out the thing everyone points out about every other battery powered keyboard first just cause I know someone will bring it up, but they have a massive number of battery failures

But more importantly they sound like a $20 board

If you mean full sized boards in general

[spiral mica]

lack of via support, not gasket mounted (and has switches not great for tray mount)

[charred plank]

They cost a lot more just to take up space that interferes with most people's mouse movements in games, most people don't even use the num pad, and they tend to sound less even in the numpad area just due to it acting as it's own gain cavity on the top half

[spiral mica]

not true, its just LI battery which are basically same in wireless mouse and headsets, if the board itself is not problematic and you dont do something stupid it would not really be an issue

[charred plank]

I'm pointing it out cause it's the same issue rk61 has but more reports and everyone flips out over that so it's fair to point it out here

Imo it's just an issue with lithium ion batteries in general

But keyboard community likes to put it on individual boards

[spiral mica]

rk61 is a pcb issue, not necessarily a battery issue

[charred plank]

So may as well give in

[charred plank]

What PCB issue?

People really don't know how PCB's work

In this hobby

[cunning anvil]

i sure dont

[charred plank]

The fire was a battery issue. From what I heard some dude put a conductive tape over the back and caused a short which overheated the battery

[spiral mica]

I am not going to argue over this topic again

I dont care what you think but dont just go and say "all keyboard with LI battery cause problems"

[charred plank]

K series had a few reports of batteries overheating and exploding too and 1 from the controller itself but imo that's not it's real issue

Imo it's just bad for legitimate reasons like it's sound and mount for its price