peripherals

[glossy mesa]

Got tmt taho keycaps in from prototypist
I see what y'all meant with the other ones I got being overpriced

[charred plank]

And anti enthusiast

[modest condor]

same with this server , i would not take advice from most people here

[charred plank]

My issue with the keyboard community is a lot of people become elitist about the most mainstream of advice and parts

[modest condor]

a lot of clowns in this hobby

[charred plank]

Being elitist in general is cringe

But if you're going to be elitist at least put effort in

[charred plank]

I agree

[cunning anvil]

keyboard thats a captouch embedded in the table with haptic feedback

[charred plank]

I'm a noob still but it feels like common sense isn't a thing in much of the hobby. I don't claim to have special knowledge or knowledge enough to make recs confidently but I do know the basics of how reality works which is lacking in a lot of the mainstream advice

[thick totem]

yes

[boreal rivet]

no one cares

buy realforce

[cunning anvil]

oof

[prime mirage]

Exactly

[prime mirage]

Bro went from being a expert who can tell people who know what there talking about that they are wrong to a “noob”

Yikes

Not knowing is completely fine but telling others they are wrong when you just don’t understand something is not okay

Everyone starts not knowing until they learn

Yeah

Only thing switches matter for in cheap boards is clicky linear or tactile lol

Yeah

Which is all feel

[wheat elm]

Key feel is a big part of mech keyboards and that's the switch too

[prime mirage]

Yeah

Switches play a lot in feel

Not sound

Yeah

[wheat elm]

If you have a cheapo board but your main concern off that bat is key feel then I'd say the switches do matter, that's all.

[prime mirage]

Now for more expensive boards yes switches change the sound

[prime mirage]

Yeah

Agreed

[boreal rivet]

Just ignore this guy

[wheat elm]

Sound is barely down the the switch yeah

[boreal rivet]

Apparently him and jonna run around in servers being idiots

Ignore him and he’ll go away

[prime mirage]

Wait what

[boreal rivet]

Biooc

[prime mirage]

Yeah

What irritates me is he isn’t willing to learn how it actually works

[boreal rivet]

Notice how when biooc was around spewing shit he didn’t say anything lol

[prime mirage]

Like I said I don’t mind if someone just dosent know that’s all good but when you go around shit talking people saying they don’t know what there talking about when you don’t that’s the issue

[prime mirage]

Oh

[cunning anvil]

framework has no ortholinear option, buuuuut what if it did have a giant capacitive multitouch screen with a configurable layout in place of a keyboard instead? give it haptic feedback and its like typing on a tablet maybe?

[boreal rivet]

Dell tried with the new xps

It’s not good lol

Speaking of framework tho

They need to come out with a glass oled display option

Straight up instabuy

[cunning anvil]

shame, guess back to the drawing board

the lower profile stuff sounds like a pain to source

[boreal rivet]

It’s just not really possible make a nice feeling keyboard without any travel imo

[cunning anvil]

idc how it works i just want an ortho keyboard in a laptop

and not the mnt reform, shits wack

tacts kinda seem like a bad option long term

can you 3d print scissors

and use uhhh

salvage domes?

[crisp patrol]

I shit talk ek

that's pretty much it

ek sucks now

overpriced slop

chinese watercooling companies fuck them

[cunning anvil]

i think im gonna make more mx boards again

LP is not enough travel

[wheat elm]

I keep looking at keyboards and getting pulled back to my Model F lol

[cunning anvil]

i should find a nice keyboard to settle down with

[wheat elm]

HHKB at work to be quiet and Model F at home where I can make noise

[cunning anvil]

oops wrong serger

[charred plank]

No, I'm just not a superg who tells people nothing matters in a keyboard and refuses to give advice then flips out when someone asks for more details about what someone wants in a keyboard

Literally not even giving advice

Just asking what they're looking for in the keyboard btw

[wheat elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/279628597109719040/1268616140154994841/20240801_130510.jpg?ex=66bf8759&is=66be35d9&hm=f0be020aea49cfc443eaf53821c622c9198c6e2d3cac36c267f4f03ed8f03ce3&
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/325378058251141120/1273731582607495218/20240815_155346.jpg?ex=66bfae7a&is=66be5cfa&hm=cf00746713a12afb9bf63af3824fe4f6a2551276bbe20f7b88245a0628f56779&

[charred plank]

No, I went from someone with common sense who can inquire more into what someone wants when another person who isn't an expert gives terrible advice tells them nothing matters to someone with common sense still

Where did I demonstrate a lack of common sense?

Like unironically

I can explain where the other person did

But where did I give advice or show a lack of common sense

[cunning anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834558873398411335/1273024683809177671/remix-bdcaed25-9e05-4d3f-8352-4847dbe29153.png?ex=66bf1660&is=66bdc4e0&hm=60335ebeb27aa025105106717ae2d30e1675a458e137da4ddf754ea5099e27c6&
my turn pls judge me :D

AH where

lol its my library

steam

apex is too sweety for me

[crisp patrol]

rare model f user

[wheat elm]

Mmmhmm

[cunning anvil]

no judgement 😔

[wheat elm]

The key feel is heavenly. Sound is an acquired taste

[crisp patrol]

sounds "worse" than the model m but feels so much better

[wheat elm]

I personally like the sound even better but that is definitely very subjective

[crisp patrol]

yeah

[prime mirage]

everything you say

[charred plank]

Like?

Also, why are you so pressed over me saying some random reddit or gives trash advice?

[charred plank]

For anyone curious the person he's pressed over claims switches don't change sound, lubing doesn't change sound, threw a tantrum over me hand lubing switches, thinks adding damping is bad, and blew up over me asking someone what type of sound or feel they're going for in their keyboard instead of blind firing some keychron cherry mx switch mainstream non-advice.

[thick totem]

why everyone beefing in the keyboard discord

first dinky now you

just

talk about keyboard

thank u

[bitter oar]

closed minded server, also why ya join this server just to harrass other people that have different opinion. Arguing with y’all is pointless because even if you prove a point, you just ignore it, or discredit it by calling the other side stupid without actually breaking down the point.

[thick totem]

did

did i harrass someone

[bitter oar]

you just joinned this server because someone from the kbd server told you to do so

[thick totem]

did i?

because i did not

[bitter oar]

the date of joinning matches as well, very similar attude to other people from the keyboard server.

[thick totem]

i never knw kbd had a server 😭

[bitter oar]

I cannot obviously prove it lol, but too good of a coincidence

[thick totem]

are you sure you're talking to the same guy dude

you're saying im harrassing you but you're accusing me of harrassment without concrete evidence

i've NEVER been part of a keyboard discord outside of this one

[bitter oar]

you’re harrassing me by discrediting me, you called me “ first dinky now you”

[thick totem]

in my defense i didnt remember your usename

discrediting? what did i credit you for in the first place

[bitter oar]

then what’s the dinky about? biooc has similar opinions to mine, he wasn’t completely right or wrong but

both of us got banned for little to no reason from the server

[thick totem]

what server???

you're referring to this external server as if im aware of it

[crisp patrol]

[thick totem]

i know of the kbd WEBSITE

but outside of that

nada mi amigo

[bitter oar]

okay, then what’s the dinky about?

[thick totem]

i didnt remember your username mb

i aint saying a third time

[bitter oar]

oh then that’s fine

[crisp patrol]

not related

[bitter oar]

yeah, kbd is not related to actual kbd

[thick totem]

oh thewn

no i know nothing abt it

apart from you mentioning it now

[crisp patrol]

[bitter oar]

now, i’m confused wym you by dinky then like you didn’t remember my name or someone else…

[thick totem]

right

i dont get what you're not understanding

i didnt remember your username

however

i did remember thocctober referring to you as "dinky"

and it stuck because i found it funny

thus i referred to you as the only way as i remembered

[bitter oar]

oh, you meant biooc’s arguing after other called him out or biooc’s opinions as being beefing

[thick totem]

no because he clearly used the terms "pressed over me" and i think we both know that you cant be pressed without it being an argument of sorts

[bitter oar]

welp, sorry I assumed wrongly.

[thick totem]

thank you

[bitter oar]

I thought you were on their side so you called me dinky as to… well it doesn’t matter now
i’m just sad they never let me get a point even if it’s right, thocctober once got himself say that discord extensions don’t break tos as an example because he was constantly trying to discredit me either directly or just calling me stupid, when I asked him why? he refused to answer almost always and said the convo is over or something.

for example

[thick totem]

look man

im tryna play tf2

if someones annoying you

or u got beef with someone

sort it

because its 2 am and im tryna game

[bitter oar]

yes, I know not being liked on the internet is part of it but when the other person straight up refuses to resolve anything and just continues purposefully to spread out of context screenshots of my messages as a funny and explains how dum a’m who’d not try to not resolve that…
anyways enjoy the game

[thick totem]

ty

[bright summit]

got my first mech keyboard, RK61 for 40% off. any tips or things i should know as a new owner? like how to clean it, which keycaps to get, and what are the differnce of switches besides sound based on experience

[bitter oar]

are you willing to do any mods?

[bright summit]

might consider changing the keycaps

[bitter oar]

I meant like filling the keyboard with stuff or tape mod

[bright summit]

well my brother tried doing it and fried his board

[bitter oar]

which tape did he use?

may have been conductive

[bright summit]

he used elecrical

[bitter oar]

weird

[bright summit]

but he also reused foam from an old box of a motherboard

prob static idk

[bitter oar]

probably static if he didn’t handle the pcb properly, shocked it

well, if you’re too scared to mod the keyboard internally first thing i’d recommend is lubing the stabilizers if they’re rattly

[bright summit]

im using a tactile brown switch

[bitter oar]

if they’re not particularly scratchy keep them

or sound bad

or you don’t like them

[bright summit]

do keycaps change the sound when typing?

[bitter oar]

yes

based on that you have rk61 which is a cheap board you’d like some cheap thicker keycaps

you want a deeper sound? less vibrant

no name or barely branded keycaps from amazon or aliexpress are fine

there are alot of different profiles too

[bright summit]

prob deeper cause right now they kinda sound like legos or close to that

[bitter oar]

yh, i’d check aliexpress if you don’t want to spend a sum on keycaps

PBT keycaps

[bright summit]

oh yea they last longer than abs plastic

[bitter oar]

they don’t get shiny as quickly yes, it also depends on quality of the abs plastic, if it’s good quality it’ll last longer than some $5 office keyboard keycaps but it will eventually get shiny from use faster than pbt anyway

so, yes they do last longer.

[bright summit]

also one last question how to clean keycaps while preserving its quality?

[bitter oar]

just don’t use something that could eat up the plastic or dye

[bright summit]

like plastic is sensetive to anything

is alcohol safe?

[bitter oar]

depends on which one

rubbing alcohol?

isopropyl?

[bright summit]

isopopryl

yeah

[bitter oar]

it’s fine aslong you don’t soak them for too long

it may wash out the dying tho a little

[bright summit]

i think thats all, thanks

[bitter oar]

soap works too

[bright summit]

hand soap or dishwashing soap

[bitter oar]

both pretty much

[bright summit]

just warm or cold water?

hot is definitely a no

[bitter oar]

even just tape water if you’re just cleaning the keycaps from dust, dirt or such
but that’ll not clean the grease if you’re using the keyboard with cheetos fingers

[bitter oar]

doesn’t matter

also, don’t rub plastic if it turns shiny, it’s permanent you can’t pretty much do anything about that

[bright summit]

aight ty bout that

i mightve done something like that and wasted time on trying

[bitter oar]

which keycaps?

[strong umbra]

https://www.amazon.com/firstgr-Profile-Double-Shot-Keycaps-Emerald/dp/B0CT62VM67/ref=sr_1_1?crid=215OESOTWYWZH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.0Zq4w-cmYsMG3CfgfZBNcAIEKZd2VTxcjblBHjxM77GmHqBzK_LXKTN0Z7MAKD8bhFKQXnyK_wlgkxACnHO-wXczQbsdwJqcxuHTrpS3HdFO0YLT6FD3iNn0_K-HgUaYGjPE0_TdnCP51qxVJoTRIhqscI-Aa8kmEOIsI4qv8TDkOrsu0Bxk-4QwlRsDpgi0d2tmpE97-w9MOBbuUUQ4P5nW0NvtWiMDcZHEHRQEJkuEqK0HHktYxBCuO0cV64P4HLPHA86vfXnnoZJ_mxOekG1mW_MIxFbKjb2i4MECvCs.NAZ-k82PWLsab19ItxoBTbZwDzJEJYEC00aMTxv1w6w&dib_tag=se&keywords=keycaps+emerald+green&qid=1723776990&sprefix=keycaps+emer%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-1 these but i got them for 15$ on aliexpress

[bitter oar]

ohh those clone looking ones, I was considering buying the caramel ones

[bitter oar]

looks good.

[glossy mesa]

Now I'm happy

[lost lodge]

I found an Akko 3068B+ with 88 keycaps but no switches that's going for $30 USD. It was used for over a year, so should I get it?

Minor scratches on the sides because he was trying to open the board

Is what he said

[elder owl]

How important did you want a knob?

[lost lodge]

It's really useful since I use the current volume buttons on my board a lot

And I mean a l o t

[lost lodge]

How are gateron milky yellow switches

Are they thocky enough?

[elder owl]

great if lubed

[lost lodge]

So I've got to lube them right

[elder owl]

but you'll need to spend the time to lube em yea

[lost lodge]

Should I get a shop to do it for me

[elder owl]

Thock depends more on the board than the switches IMO

[lost lodge]

Is the 3068b+ good then? 💀

[elder owl]

but milky yellow should do just fine

I mean, it's fine?

[lost lodge]

I can sacrifice the knob if the board is good

Since I'm getting the whole thing for less than $50

I can spend more for the barebones board if it has a knob since my budget is around $70

But I can't even find a barebones board that has a knob

Theres a GMMK Pro board that's going for $180

Um nexgen

@elder owl

GPBT KEYCAPS ARCTIC WHITE + Gateron Milky Yellow Black Bottom Pro Linear Switch(around 80pcs) + Gateron White Switch(36pcs) + Gateron Red (4pcs) + (10 PCs) green switch linear

• AJAZZ Pudding Black Keycaps Matte Feel 108 Full Key Two-Color/Two-Color PBT Transparent Keycaps PBT

All of this for $55

[elder owl]

gmmk pro not worth

[lost lodge]

Should I do it

[lost lodge]

Ik

[lost lodge]

Should I get these though

[elder owl]

I don't like the look of either set, but if you do then by all means

[lost lodge]

Nono like I'm going to be getting all of that for just $55

[elder owl]

Milky Yellow Pro comes prelubed. Not the greatest lube job but it's serviceable

[lost lodge]

Is it worth it

[elder owl]

completely up to you

[lost lodge]

Like is it a W orrr

[elder owl]

if it's just for the switches absolutely not

if you like one of the keycap sets, then it becomes finne

[lost lodge]

No it's for all of them

Everything in the list

[elder owl]

nono I meant like

if you don't like either of the keycap sets, then 55 dollars for the switches is not worth it

[lost lodge]

Ohhh

[elder owl]

if you like either of the keycap sets, then 55 dollars for the entire bundle is fine

[lost lodge]

The transparent ones look ugly imo

[lost lodge]

Gotta check that arctic thing

[lost lodge]

the glorious one looks nice but

im not too sure if I should spend that much for used items

[lost lodge]

is it that bad?

the keycaps

oh

so I guess I shouldnt get it then

because he wont sell any of those things individually

and hows the akko 3068b+ board I found

do I get the Akko keyboard (no switches) + the 88 keycaps + the box incl. all the accessories (used for over a year with minor scratches on the sides of the casing)

or do I wait around a month for a new keyboard to come out

or do I just get the Ajazz AK820 Max with Avocado Switches

[boreal rivet]

you should save a few months and buy a realforce

[charred plank]

Generally you'll find the more mainstream something is will be the more overpriced it is

It's probably still just normal pbt or abs keycaps or normal thickness but I would wager they are overpriced still for what they are

You'll find the same thing with most fields

In PC space you'll notice Asus and Nvidia stuff tends to be overpriced because you're paying for the name for example

In audio space you'll notice bose and Harman kardon stuff will be overpriced because the name

In car space you'll notice Mercedes and BMW are almost always overpriced for what they are

[charred plank]

Inb4 @prime mirage flips out and insists all those companies are actually the best just to disagree

[prime mirage]

What

[lost lodge]

The problem isn't the money (it is), the problem is the availability

[lost lodge]

Well yes but

Like I said

That's a bundle thing

$55 for the 2 sets of keycaps and all those switches

[boreal rivet]

where do you live

[lost lodge]

Bangladesh

[charred plank]

Haven't used their switches but unless the caps I'd say definitely weigh the value largely on how much you like the look and ergonomics of the, because they probably aren't particularly high quality relative to cheaper options

Can't tell you a thing about their switches though

[lost lodge]

DYK any other good thocky or creamy switches under 30 bdt each

Because if I do get the ajazz ak820 max, I might have to change the switches

Same goes for the ak870

[lost lodge]

This uses ajazz's avocado switches

They sound amazing irl but from the reviews I've heard, people are saying they don't sound that good

[boreal rivet]

ok thats fair 💀

[gentle jackal]

do yall think i can get pbt keycaps off temu for dirt cheap

theyre for an ajazz ak820 btw

[charred plank]

Don't use temu

Use AliExpress

[gentle jackal]

tbh i wanted to problem is the shipping time

[charred plank]

Both will be shipping from China

[gentle jackal]

ik but temu comes fast ali express comes in like 3 months for me

idk why

[charred plank]

And if the company is buying a us warehouse you're probably not getting a good deal on that item

They use the same shipping

[gentle jackal]

fr?

thats weird ig i got unlucky that one time on aliexpress

r the ali express ones any good

[lost lodge]

YO

are the switches good

[gentle jackal]

the one im getting r with red awitches its coming augast 21st

soooo il update you

[lost lodge]

ah

okay please do

im thinking about getting the 820 max

[gentle jackal]

okok should be soon

[lost lodge]

or wait for the black version of the 870 with the display to come in stock

[gentle jackal]

doesnt the ak820 pro come witha display

[lost lodge]

lmk if the software and the quality are good or not

[lost lodge]

yes but I heard the max's build is a bit better and the display has a higher pixel density

[gentle jackal]

i might not be able to test the software bcuz im on vacation but ill let you know sbt the quality

[gentle jackal]

mhmm okok

[lost lodge]

aight aight tysm

[gentle jackal]

yw if i dont remember to update u remind me

[crisp patrol]

with nvidia you pay for working drivers

[modest condor]

https://imgur.com/a/royal-kludge-is-good-brand-you-should-buy-keyboards-x7LTFwp

[cunning anvil]

a pair of 3x5 ortho pads would go hard

[hollow cargo]

anyone have any recommendations for a solid 75% KB? My Logitech G613 from 2019 is finally starting to bite the bullet. I want to upgrade while also downsizing.

[bitter oar]

womier sk75 from aliexpress for 90 bucks

[cunning anvil]

i2c breakout 3v3

just in case

[charred plank]

why do people recommend keychron v3 so often

it costs about the same as lucky65 which i found out about with minimal research. there are probably even better options for even cheaper relative to even that

[boreal rivet]

Real

Realforce is better anyway

Rip 💀🙏

[rich pumice]

i have a Portronics Hydra 10 how can i make it perfect?

[lost lodge]

Should I get the Infi75 Lite

[rich pumice]

IDK much about about that keyboard sorry

[lost lodge]

Ah it's aight

Can you check the sound and then

Like lmk what you think about it

[rich pumice]

okay

@lost lodgewhat games do you play?

[spiral mica]

very good board

my infi 75 is still one of the best plastic board I have tried

besides things like filco and hhkb

[lost lodge]

Uh

That depends

Rainbow six siege, Forza but thats not on the kb, Minecraft, sometimes cod

[lost lodge]

Is that better than this

Akko silver switches or sum

And akko "asa bow" switches

[spiral mica]

what is this

[lost lodge]

Lemme check the name rq

Akko 007

Used for 7 months

I think that's the name

A lot of stuff that I don't understand

[spiral mica]

it looks beaten up

and is missing keycaps

I would go for infi75

[lost lodge]

It's the lite version btw

Used for 2-3 months with just a tape mod

[spiral mica]

afaik the only difference is the screen, and I personally hate the screen because less keys

[lost lodge]

No warranty and it's just $75

[lost lodge]

Ohh

Is the RGB and knob good

And why's there a protective sticker above the knob?

[spiral mica]

knob is alright I guess, bit wobbly but works

[spiral mica]

its glossy

[lost lodge]

Aohh

Ohh*

I'm not sure if I want to go for the Ak870 or this though

I sort of want a display mainly because of the ability to use gifs

But the seller told me this sounds way better

[lost lodge]

And hows the build of the board

[spiral mica]

you wouldnt look at the screen (I got 3 boards with screens)

[lost lodge]

Solid or too much flex?

[lost lodge]

Oh

Well it's for every now and then

[spiral mica]

and infi75 clears 90% of budget boards out there (my preference)

[lost lodge]

And also because it shows the battery

[lost lodge]

Is it thocky or creamy?

[spiral mica]

depends, with case foam the gasket is not soft but after removing it the gasket is quite soft

[spiral mica]

go listen to sound tests, mine uses a different switch

[lost lodge]

What's better?

[spiral mica]

preference

I didnt use case foam so its less muted

[lost lodge]

Ohh

I want thock but not too loud like a blue switch

The first and last time I used it was when I got my first board

[spiral mica]

it would be quieter than blues/clickies

definitely

[lost lodge]

Alright

[rich pumice]

o

[lost lodge]

It's actually $63

I said $75

[trail galleon]

do you guys know a good budget keyboard????

fair point

I love membrane keyboards

[boreal rivet]

So real

[brave compass]

I quite like my keychron and is also affordable with all the necessary features

[trail galleon]

alr

I was looking for a keyboard to get cause I'm useing a hyperx alloy keyboard

[brave compass]

Depends on your budget though, but the keychron is ~$110

Ducky is also decent

[lost lodge]

It has a PC plate so do I need to change that?

And is there any way I can change the frame to black?

It's white rn

[spiral mica]

keep it

[spiral mica]

what frame

[lost lodge]

The main kb

And the stock keycaps don't really allow the RGB to shine through

[spiral mica]

there is a black version

[spiral mica]

shine through keycaps are shit

[lost lodge]

I'm getting a slightly used one 💀

Fr

[lost lodge]

Well imo if I'm paying 6.5k for a kb (6.5k in my country), I'd want at least some kind of RGB)

I'm new to keyboards so I don't thinks going to be happening anytime soon 💀

[spiral mica]

it has rgb, just backlight

not shinethrough

[crisp patrol]

even the sho?

[ancient jay]

Which one?

I was gonna get a keychron

[brave compass]

K8 Proi

[crisp patrol]

damn

[ancient jay]

Awesome

I was gonna get the same one

[brave compass]

It's a nice keyboard, just not too fond of south facing rgb but it's a minor details

[ancient jay]

There's RGB?

That's crazy

I didn't know that

[brave compass]

The $109 version has RGB and is hotswap

[ancient jay]

Zamn

[lost lodge]

Should I get the Infi75 or Attack Shark X85 Pro

[lost lodge]

Or an used rk84 for $27

Then I mod that to perfection or sum

[modest condor]

https://imgur.com/a/royal-kludge-is-good-brand-you-should-buy-keyboards-x7LTFwp

[spiral mica]

^

[fervent dragon]

i'm looking to build my own custom keyboard, is this a good starting base?

[keen hound]

I Have an Asus TUF K7 keyboard and have had it for a couple of years, i like it but i dont know whether or not i can hotswap the keycaps or not, like its hard to find actual official info on it and i feel like its a somewhat niche keyboard so its difficult to find info on it

[fervent dragon]

where am i supposed to buy a keyboard DIY kit?

[cunning anvil]

wassup

oh

uh

i think thats an os thing

have you tried replugging?'

whered you get the firmware?

you compiling yourself?

might just be line 28/29

get rid of the negates?

wait wut

how

just delete the !

on the caps lock line

idk why/how its wonking out like that

[native sundial]

Are you guys gonna continuously spam this shit anytime anyone mentions RK?

it’s clearly an issue with the RK61 specifically lmfao

[modest condor]

lmao

so ! = on ?

[cunning anvil]

idk if i have the energy to explain rn ;~;

its negation of the state

for caps

[modest condor]

thx for this tho

was trying to figure it out

[crisp patrol]

and the rk68

[native sundial]

word

[blazing sparrow]

I was trying to flash my GMMK pro barebones with QMK, all the videos showed GMMK/pro but that’s no longer an option. It only gives me an option for rev1 or rev2. Could someone give me an insight on how to verify which version I’d need?

[cunning anvil]

having fun with alternate layout design

(there is no bottom row)

[crisp patrol]

I'm interested

if it has a spacebar

[cunning anvil]

no spacebar

also you do realise theres no bottom row at all yea?

[boreal rivet]

Why is it underwater

[crisp patrol]

why

[chrome raft]

I spilled beer on it

Its demineralised water

[prime mirage]

Why didn’t you take the switches out

The board is fine to soak the switches no

[junior jacinth]

no dishwasher?

[chrome raft]

That would destroy the lubricant

Also i have hard water so it would leave scale behind

[chrome raft]

I cba to desolder all the switches

It was already destroyed in my mind anyway, i just wanted to try this

[cinder badge]

hello everyone, i recently bought Redragon K617 fizz 60% keyboard [ https://www.amazon.in/dp/B09JSZYKYR?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details ] > so what i want to do is i want to reprogram my [ alt,fn,key right to it & page down ] keys as my arrow keys , but i don't to reprogram it permanently i only want at certain time or in some particular situations > so is there any ways i could set a where i could set a macro which when i press it changes the layout of the keyboard and changes the above motioned keys as arrow keys > and when i press that arrow key again it resets the keyboard to default

thank you for your time 💗😊

[steady hatch]

anyone able to recommend a mouse like the mx master but with better polling rate?

For some reason I get a lot of lag when using it with my mac with the dongle or via BT. It cuts out pretty often as well.

I just need it to have USB C charging and decent battery life

[steady hatch]

Do you know any that do tri mode connectivity?

This pulsar one seems real nice.

[urban panther]

2.4GHz (dongle)
Bluetooth
USB Wired

[steady hatch]

yeah I only found like 2 mice

Fantech Helios II Pro but its too small

[urban panther]

i misread your post

i thought you were asking what trimode was lol

[steady hatch]

oh fair enough

Mice are a pain to sort through so many different ones.

[modest condor]

^

[modest condor]

Pulsar is super nice

[cunning anvil]

for pairing to your phone to control volume?

wait mouse?

uhh

no idea

[modest condor]

perhaps if u use like a mac book or some shit like that?

wait no

ipad

thats the name

i think u can use a mouse on ipads now?

idk

[cunning anvil]

i mean id use a bt mouse if it can do wired AND was open hardware

but thats kinda like

[modest condor]

2.4ghz is just better

[cunning anvil]

yeah it is, but the best open hardware solution to mouse is bluetooth afaik

altoids tins go hard

[vocal breach]

Whats a good under 75 USD keyboard with a knob and TKL size? Preferably with good software

Also preferably low profile if possible, I tried looking in rtings but I didn't find a good chouce

[thick totem]

what he said

[prime mirage]

I 3rd that

[long obsidian]

I 4th that

[modest condor]

I 5th that

[soft swallow]

What about a kb that is backlit, is quiet, has arrow keys but is small and is fast (in latency terms for gaming)? I don't care about cost but cant seem to find something that ticks all boxes

[boreal rivet]

Realforce gx1

[long obsidian]

Anyone got a suggestion for a low profile 2.4 hotswap keeb.
Layout is flexible im open to either 65 75 TKL

Been looking into Razer Deathstalker v2 pro tkl. which fits my criteria but has terrible reviews about connectivity and bloatware.

Current choices are Nuphy Air 75
Prebuilts preferred, but board is welcome too.
Budget: below 150 for the whole thing

Q: What about bluetooth
A: I already have a keychron K1 TKL
Q: Why not normal profile
A: Looking to bringing it everywhere, and i already have keychron and asus azoth

[spiral mica]

magi65

[long obsidian]

looks good, does the FN + Number row combine into F keys

i assume so

[spiral mica]

yes

[long obsidian]

so nuphy and magi65 are the choices

[boreal rivet]

hhkb is better

[vestal python]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0CYSQWYZP/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

any good for gaming?

i really like the look of it

[long obsidian]

no

[steady hatch]

Coz if I am at home I want a nice smooth experience. But if I am out the house I just need a mouse

[boreal rivet]

yes it'll work fine

[steady hatch]

yeah but BT and 2.4 would be great

My Mac doesnt have a USB A port and i dont like dongles so BT is the only option

[long obsidian]

buy dongle for your mac

[steady hatch]

but that requires a port to be used and I like the clean aesthetic

[unique atlas]

I currently use Outimu ice light pink 62g, and I really like them but I'm curious what else is out there. I use my keyboards mostly gaming but still prefer tactile switches.

Currently I'm considering

Gateron Baby kangaroo 2.0

TTC Bluish white

Akko V3 cream blue Pro

Razer Orange Gen 3

I also considered the newer HperX box tactile switches but cant find any reviews of them.

Does anyone have experience with multiple of the switches above? Or does anyone know what website where I can buy individual (1s and 2s) of switches so I can test them out?

[unique atlas]

I currently have a modded gmmk pro, I but i might get a lemokey p1 pro

[vocal breach]

I actually have about 100$ but with international shipping (floating around 10-20 + tax)

Rn I have some redragon keyboard but it's terrible ngl battery drains fast, delay is high full size

[bitter oar]

womier sk75 at $80-90 but doesn’t have knob, leobog hi75 or such

chinesium cnc keyboards

[unique atlas]

Alrighty good talk

[naive osprey]

Jesus a guy who got muted in an entirely unrelated server pinged me here and was too pathetic to even leave it up 🙄

A revision server 😭

Or “study server” as I’ve run into a few people who have no idea that revision is the same thing

[soft swallow]

yeah... seen those a few times... Not really liking them, they look cheap even though they cost bank (but I do love their key feel). There must be other options right?

[soft swallow]

where has the latency been tested? And does pressing one key cancel the other? Like see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feny5bs2JCg The way keys activate can make a huge difference to gaming.

[boreal rivet]

Nowhere

Because it doesn’t really matter

Cs has banned null binds and it isn’t useful in other games

[boreal rivet]

Looks fine to me 🤷

[proper dagger]

anyone here hop on the new satisfaction 75x groupbuy

[trail galleon]

catually that looks really nice

I dont know about the sound tho

[cunning coral]

how ltt fans feel after spending more money on a keyboard than on a psu

[trail galleon]

hello freaky tech core

[cunning coral]

hello freaky gnarpy

[trail galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-spiffy-dog-haircut-bad-haircut-gif-3038848003866845269

[cunning coral]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-16704157274113773062

wat

[trail galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/811050426622541824/1148348522333220974/ezgif-5-b7daa74b5a.gif

[cunning coral]

i didnt get to see it

[trail galleon]

I'll dm you it

[trail galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-bob-sponge-spongebob-cry-sad-gif-25905087

[gentle jackal]

BRO IT SOUNDS SO NICE the dust cover is missing tho

[lost lodge]

oh damnnnn

[lost lodge]

dust cover doesnt matter really

well

for me

because on the ak820 max

the dust cover doesnt completely fit because of the knob

but anywho i probs wont be getting a keyboard rn

going for a cat

Salute

[gentle jackal]

meh tbh same idrc

[gentle jackal]

cat way better go for it

[lost lodge]

my current keyboard looks like its from sahara desert

[lost lodge]

yessir

the only prob with cats is

what if it shats on the floor

[gentle jackal]

MANNNN WIPE IT WITHA TOWEL

[lost lodge]

my parents said they arent going to do anything so I have to take care of it on my own 💀

[lost lodge]

no matter how many times I wipe it

its dusty again the next day

[gentle jackal]

ummmm idk i have a dog and when he was a child shitting wasnt the problem pissing is

[lost lodge]

oh and hows the display of the kb

[gentle jackal]

oh yh fair its dusty sometimes

[lost lodge]

oh I completely forgot about pissing

[lost lodge]

yes

[gentle jackal]

u can just pick up the shit

the piss is so annoying tho

[gentle jackal]

wym by display

[lost lodge]

with my bare hands? nawwww 💀

[lost lodge]

you got the ak820 pro right

or was it the 820 base

[gentle jackal]

i got the base

[lost lodge]

ohh

[gentle jackal]

too broke for tgat

[lost lodge]

is the knob reprogrammable

[lost lodge]

base is really good \

for the price

its awesome

sadly there aint no discounts here 🗿

[gentle jackal]

tbh yh its awesome i love it

i had a 10 dollar random blue seitch kdb so likeeeeeed

[gentle jackal]

nahh i got a 5 euro discount

[lost lodge]

damnnn

[gentle jackal]

idk il check later bcuz ion have my pc rn

[lost lodge]

ah alr alr

lmk if it is

oh and is the rgb good

[lost lodge]

can relate

[gentle jackal]

uhhhh il plug it in on my brothers ps5 when he wakes up il lyk

i think the base is led th

o

[lost lodge]

my first ever mechanical one was a havit blue switch kb that I got for $23 around 5-6 years ago

[lost lodge]

ohh alr

[lost lodge]

ye sure

ty

[gentle jackal]

also the keykaps are pretty nice

[lost lodge]

ohhh damn

which color did you get

[gentle jackal]

i got the grey and white like mostly white some grey

[lost lodge]

ohh

[gentle jackal]

the leds r nice im not sure if there r doff colors i dont think so il check the software when i get access tho

[lost lodge]

alr alr

[main narwhal]

rubber dome time

[woven mauve]

Looking to buy myself a new keyboard with mechanical switches that aren't super loud. Any recommendations on switch types?

I read up a bit on this and it seems black and red (silent) are the quietest

[boreal rivet]

topre

[cunning anvil]

silent topre

[soft swallow]

I am using topre (HHKB Pro JP) right now and they are still too loud for an office.

[boreal rivet]

Skill issue

[elder owl]

black/red switches nowadays are like your "normie" switches

also

silent switches often have an rubber stopper at the end of each stroke that you may or may not like

it feels like a slightly less mushy rubber dome switch

for silent tactiles*

[woven mauve]

Don't want anything super loud that wakes up the entire house when I am up at past midnight downstairs

[elder owl]

just avoid clickies and you're probably fine

[woven mauve]

I got a keyboard with silvers

[elder owl]

what silvers?

like which brand

[woven mauve]

MX Speed

[elder owl]

Are they too loud?

[woven mauve]

I heard they are much more responsive compared to red

[elder owl]

They are, I hate them

[woven mauve]

Video I found online showed they're about the same loudness as Reds

[elder owl]

most linear switches are about the same loudness as other linear switches - the case matters more than the switches

[woven mauve]

So long as my keyboard doesn't sound like a typewriter, I don't care

[elder owl]

the only exception is when it's a silent switch

which have the rubber endings

I'll disassemble one rn just to show hold up

[woven mauve]

The same video I watched showed the Red silents and they just sound souless

[elder owl]

K welp I can't find my switch opener

[woven mauve]

The MX speeds have a shorter actuation level, which should make them still pretty quiet and super responsive. Which is what I am looking for

[elder owl]

here's one of the silent linears I have

not my picture

but notice the clear rubber pieces

[woven mauve]

Yep, I saw that in the diagram I found

[elder owl]

yea those are silent switches and they're very quiet

[woven mauve]

I think Silver should work fine for me

I do a lot of typing and don't slam on my keyboard

[elder owl]

wait do you already have the speed silvers?

[woven mauve]

I have a membrane keyboard right now. LOL

Some cheap one from AZIO

[elder owl]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh

ok well first uh

what was your budget for a board?

I lowkey don't like speed silvers at all

[woven mauve]

I don't really want to build one

[elder owl]

for me it's because I rest my fingers on the keys

and resting them on triggers them

[woven mauve]

I don't do that, so I should be fine

[elder owl]

What was your budget?

[woven mauve]

Like 100 bucks

[elder owl]

Oh

You can get a decent cheap prebuilt

[woven mauve]

I did find one, I liked the Corsair K70 I found. Has media buttons too and a volume slider

It's on clearance too I think

[elder owl]

I literally have beef with that board lmao

it's so rattly

with some modding it becomes usable

[woven mauve]

Eh, makes no difference to me. I wear headphones normally, I just don't need my new keyboard obnoxious. LOL

[elder owl]

nono it's that

one side of the spacebar rattles before the rest of the spacebar moves

[woven mauve]

Yeah I know about that kind of stuff, I watched some keyboard Youtubers before

I'm not super critical over that kind of stuff

My typing style is weird, I don't type with the normal hand positions you're supposed to use

[elder owl]

I don't either

[woven mauve]

Index fingers and thumbs

Somehow I can type really fast that way, idk how

[elder owl]

I use every finger on my left hand, but seldom my right ring or pinky

form just helps you type faster, it doesn't neccesarily mean you'll type faster with it

[woven mauve]

Thanks for the insight tho, I will keep it in mind for when I decide to get a new keyboard later on

I just want something to replace this crumb and hair infested keyboard. LOL

Sure I could clean it out, but it's like 10+ years old and probably time to replace

[misty crypt]

speed silvers feel a little outdated for their original purpose of being for gaming since analog switches have proven their capabilities with features like snap tap—even if valve did decide to crack down on use of it in CS2

but if you just want something quiet they should be fine

noise can come from more than just the switches tho—the board's acoustics are important too

ideally whatever you pick should have layers of sound-dampening foam and good pre-lubed stabilizers

[boreal rivet]

All can be avoided with a realforce

[winter coral]

im thinking to myself which keyboard to buy
wooting he60+
or steelseries apex pro tkl

because in the first hand the wooting he60+ having better settings for lower response times and have better features

and the other hand i know that the apex pro tkl is tkl and not 60% and have much better build quality,and also wireless connection

what do you suggest me to buy?
and if the apex pro have same input delay if im using wireless and not wired

[cunning anvil]

if you're worrying about response times would wireless be used?

[winter coral]

quite
and also if the wooting vs apex response times and feature is a big difference

like if i will feel a huge difference

btw both of them will be the same price because of a sale that i got

[native sundial]

How moddable is the apex pro?

I know the 60HE uses a standard 60% layout so can be modded heavily

I will eventually mod mine lol

[winter coral]

actually i think the keyboard is moddable
you think that i should mod a top teir keyboard?

[native sundial]

I mean this is #peripherals

[winter coral]

what?

[native sundial]

90% of flagship stock keyboards still sound ass

[winter coral]

but im talking about the quality and input delay more

[native sundial]

It would be an indistinguishable difference without tools to measure it

Check optimums video

[winter coral]

Which one?
Btw maybe you have better suggestion for a keyboard? Because some people that say that the analog keyboards are better (and also the wooting is analog but people say that there are better analog keyboards)

The problem is that I don’t really like 60%
So I’m thinking if there is a big performance boost for a 60% keyboard
Or I would go to the tkl ones

[native sundial]

Literally 99.9% of the shit only matters if you’re a top 0.1% player

[winter coral]

So the difference isn’t huge
And if it will be
I would be with enough money from esports to get one

Or sponsors😛

[bitter oar]

not the shill again

[native sundial]

I actually don’t even really care for dude, he just makes informative videos

[bitter oar]

I felt alot of the time he shills gaming companies to a point I believe he is paid by steelseries

like not actually "his words"

or maybe he's just too enthusiastic to consider other stuff idk

[native sundial]

Idk

[misty crypt]

it's really weird how the wooting 60HE is such an all-around great gaming keyboard and then it just is available in a keyboard layout most people don't like.

they are working on an 80HE, right?

...ah right, release is in october

[winter coral]

THE PRICE 230$ with shipping
for the most standart one
and i heard that the parts quality are quite low

im actually thinking about if i will buy that keyboard or the Steelseries apex pro tkl
but idk

still trying to decide

[misty crypt]

i have a feeling the 80HE is gonna be better built than the apex pro TKL

[crisp patrol]

non standard layout

[cunning anvil]

gib standardized tkl case pls

[cold kindle]

hey guys does someone know a good full size mechanical keyboard for 50 usd max on amazon?

[dawn swan]

buy 80he over 60he because it is coming with better stock switches

less hosuing and stem wobble

i got tired of stem wobble on my two HE and ended up doing franken switches with some raptor housing and lekker stems

supposedly they solved that on 80he

[urban panther]

they should have done either TKL or 75%
this is just weird

[cunning anvil]

it's kinda funny

[native sundial]

Well I mean they were gonna do something different and then everyone freaked out and told them to change it

[young spoke]

i like this

[native sundial]

nvm i misremembered

But anyways I’ve been holding off on modding my 60HE just in case someone decides they wanna trade their 80HE for a 60HE when they release lol

I like my 60HE, but I think I’d like the 80HE layout more

[young spoke]

yeah but £200

i’ll keep my aula f87 lmao

[modest condor]

60HE was very popular cause u could put the PCB in so many different cases

they threw that out the window with the ''80''He

[vocal tusk]

i am eager to get a wooting board, i like my 60% but having separate f keys would be quite handy

it will also be equally as nice to not have to deal with steelseries gg anymore

[winter coral]

So if I will wait it will be good you say

And I saw that in the video the gave the 80+ more things to lower reaction time and latency

[dawn swan]

the only thing the 80 has for 'better' reaction time and latency is a higher polling rate but its a ~1ms difference between two he/60he/80he

all 3 blow away any custom for response time except for some rare 8000hz pcbs with good debounce firmware

and id worry about monitors before keyboards for latency either way unless its some dogshit bluetooth board with 25ms+ like some keychrons

probably hard to even see a difference in keyboard response times if you use a 60hz display since the frametime is >16ms which is worse than even a 125hz board with bad debounce algo

[cunning anvil]

gamers are weird

[thick totem]

we all are

deep down

[placid linden]

https://tenor.com/view/roll-foam-keyboard-funni-funny-gif-25367300

keborf

[cunning anvil]

nkro testing

[cinder badge]

hello everyone, i recently bought Redragon K617 fizz 60% keyboard [ https://www.amazon.in/dp/B09JSZYKYR?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details ] > so what i want to do is i want to reprogram my [ alt,fn,key right to it & page down ] keys as my arrow keys , but i don't to reprogram it permanently i only want at certain time or in some particular situations > so is there any ways i could set a where i could set a macro which when i press it changes the layout of the keyboard and changes the above motioned keys as arrow keys > and when i press that arrow key again it resets the keyboard to default

[charred plank]

Got a new keycaps set from AliExpress and it's notably thick and heavy

The set that came with the royalaxe ironically sounds better besides the space bar though imo

Just because they are taller which seems to give it more of that pop sound and less of a high pitched typewriter like click

[proven shuttle]

So, i'm using this keybaord
and i've noticed that if i hold w and spacebar, I can't click 4
it just doesn't register
but all other keys do

[bitter oar]

model?

[craggy dawn]

guys, about the wooting 60he+, can i remove the switches so i can lube the keeb even it is a pre built??

[modest condor]

yes

[chrome raft]

i bought epomaker th80 but the switches always fail me sucks i was recommended this kb a lot i am sad

[cursive mirage]

I bought the Blackwidow Pro V4 from razer cause I liked the layout and thought about swapping out the switches and keycaps for something else (just starting down the mechanical keyboard rabbit warren) and thought this would be a slightly cheaper way to dip my toe into the waters. ||man, I'm mixing analogies|| But the switches don't seem to want to come out. Are they glued in? The site doesn't say if they are soldered on and they appear to be hot swappable, but I don't know how to tell from the top.

[cunning anvil]

it doesn't sound hot swappable if it didn't say anywhere

[cursive mirage]

Is hot swappable contingent on the pcb or the switch?

[cunning anvil]

PCB

caps may be swappable if they're mx stem compatible?

[cursive mirage]

So looking at the switches doesn't give any hint of the pcb?

[cunning anvil]

i mean if you look at the bottom of the switches

where it connects to the PCB

[cursive mirage]

So I would have to gamble that the stupid rubber feet would go back on or just take the disappointment back?

[cunning anvil]

it's... probably not hotswap

[cursive mirage]

sigh

[versed forge]

you arent pulling hard enough or arent using the keycap tool

[cursive mirage]

The EVGA keyboard I have, they come right out. The Razer must be soldered. Gonna take that one back to Best Buy and eat the restock fee. I might have found something else that's better.

[versed forge]

Razer huntsman v2 analog with half razer and half corsair caps @cursive mirage

[cursive mirage]

Yeah, I think the Blackwidow V4 is soldered

Now I'm looking at the Glacier Skyloong GK104 pro

I'm weird. I use the num pad

[bitter oar]

the pro is iirc the non pro isn’t

yeah, that doesn’t make sense but razer doesn’t either

at that price you can get aluminum keyboard.

[cursive mirage]

Well, I'm looking at this one now.

[bitter oar]

is it made from metal?

if not then i’d pass

you can get one from aluminum at that price

unless you need the three knobs

and a screen and that digital thing

[cursive mirage]

It says abs. But most I've seen are tkl

[bitter oar]

do you really need three knobs? does the keyboard have via/qmk?

[bitter oar]

you can also just buy additional numpad later on

[cursive mirage]

via/qmk?

Also my "desk" is my recliner.

The glacier has three connection options.

[forest marsh]

damn those corsair "keyboards" with optical mechanical switches should be banned form being sold as anything other as a gamecontroller , as typing defenetly is not possible on them , gave this one 3 weeks now and still shi*t

the technology sounds good ... if they actually did it right and not have the keys engage by tapping the key next to it

[bitter oar]

yeah, prob the best software for keyboards

imo any custom keyboard above 100 should have it when other do

[cursive mirage]

It says it's customizable, but not how on the site.

Would that be a question worth emailing them about?

[cunning anvil]

hey kk

isnt the qmk stuff 1khz?

[forest marsh]

qmk havent had one of those .. maybe i should look into it, but the hz is of little consequence to me,... (the one i have now is 1khz polling yes , but dont see the advantage of it when coding 🙂

[cunning anvil]

sorry, that was two disjoint messages

the qmk comment was at kvetinky

[bitter oar]

wym?

[cunning anvil]

mostly thinking about this

[bitter oar]

welp, if google shows nothing it probably doesn’t have qmk/via but if you’re not keymapping stuff or such

[bitter oar]

mhmm, unsure if qmk is limited to 1khz, but i don’t think that even matters all that much

1khz is still 1ms which is… very fast

[cunning anvil]

yeah makes sense

[bitter oar]

yes, 8khz polling rate is faster but, polling rate isn’t the whole story with latency

you can have a 1khz keyboard faster if the 8khz one has shitty implementation

for some reason…

[bitter oar]

i mean if you’re for the numbers then ig? yes that could be a point. but you could say you could gain that back by not having cold hands while gaming or such

or i don’t really know 1ms is just nothing if you ask me, it’s not going to win you a battle

i’d really just say model to model rather than looking just at the pr

[cunning anvil]

idk what that means

keep seeing talk about the 8khz stuff and wanted to be sure, though that might just be the same guy saying it again and again, idk , idr who says what

love me a good zmk ble board :3

i wonder if i could get an FM board

[cursive mirage]

Looking around, most of the full size keyboards I could find around the 140 mark were abs. The aluminum ones were 200+ I have tweaked the attached cord on my EVGA a couple times, and it drops every once and a while. It's not wireless capable. It also came with my gpu that I got during scalpgate.

[boreal rivet]

The blaxkor dude unironically seems to know what he’s talking about

You can just ignore dinky though

Anything technical and he just falls apart

[cunning anvil]

im not a technical player

not a fan of rhythm games neither

would it even affect me that much to be using qmk and the like

[boreal rivet]

No lol

[cunning anvil]

hm

[cursive mirage]

I just stink at all the basic Minecraft skills, so a super fast polling rate isn't exactly important.

[cunning anvil]

i dont get why its so important to people, probably me not being skilled enough to understand tho

[cursive mirage]

I'm mainly looking for something I can customize in the future without costing an arm and a leg to start. I also use the num pad, so my options are rather limited.

[boreal rivet]

Cope, higher number better among others

[cunning anvil]

? are you telling me to cope??

with what

[boreal rivet]

I’m talking about why it’s so important to some

[cunning anvil]

oh

im too tired to parse rn

and hungry

i need to order pizza

to test this hot sauce on

anyone seen the 2350 specs?

or at least

the datasheet

To meet the above requirements, Raspberry Pi have worked with Abracon to create a custom 2.0×1.6mm 3.3μH polarity-marked inductor

like

im sticking with 2040

or maybe ill try stm32-brand stuff

custom inductor for a single chip >.>

grumbles

risc-v keyboard would also be funny

[true charm]

Starting to plan a new project. I want to go for 96% or 1800 south paw, and I’d like to do better than keychron, but all the southpaw boards I find are short runs that are no longer in production. Does anyone know of a hidden gem I’m missing?

[bitter oar]

i like how you’re still mad at me even after couple of months, what did i say wrong again?

[boreal rivet]

Why would I be mad at you bruh

[bitter oar]

also, i already said i don’t want to be called dinky <@&750150305383186585>

[boreal rivet]

I literally never think of you

Just saw you saying something stupid 🤷

[bitter oar]

oh, then why the “don’t listen to me” occasionally type of messages towards me whenever i say something

[bitter oar]

uh be specific what did i say wrong?

instead of saying just i said something stupid

without pointing it out and dodging any sort of answering thr question i asked

[boreal rivet]

Mimimimimi

[bitter oar]

you’re just getting ridicilous holding a grudge againt people that have different opinion than you, i wonder how you actually doing inrl

[boreal rivet]

I’m doing great

On holiday with my friends in Australia

[bitter oar]

yet you still spend months of waiting til i say something so you can respond back

[boreal rivet]

Mimimimimi

Seethe bruh

[bitter oar]

i’m not really the only that hates you well, rather this chat, people come here to get a keyboard recommendation and you guys nuke them with over their budget or something they didn’t ask meme

tell them to ration up their money like wtf?

you don’t realize how rude is that

then you guys tell them to get a used one from japan, but you guys also said before that someone may not want to order from taobao or aliexpress the same thing basicly, it’s sort of hypocritical argument just to disagree with me.

[cunning anvil]

japan and china are different countries though

[bitter oar]

i will mention this again but thocctober found himself recommending/saying something that’s agaisnt tos isn’t when i said that it was because he just wanted to disagree ig

[craggy dawn]

hmmm, interesting

[bitter oar]

true but both are international stuff, and returning the things would be prob equally as hard

in case something goes wrong

i’m not saying topre is bad, i personally don’t like it but these guys clearly got mad when i said that they sound mushy

it’s not like the typing feel is some kind of magic, yes i would definitely get it over some generic gaming keyboard

but all things considered i’d just not (personally)

and these guys clearly got mad about that i called them mediocre. i fucking tried topre boards at my friend’s house that had like dozen of keyboard (pretty much 5x than i ever had in total)

even with headphones you can’t overwrite someone’s preference if they just like headphone X but, the question is if they would not be used to that pair, there are so many factors when it comes to sound

i know i’m comparing apples to pears but ig

[true charm]

Well, you see, to do that would require that there exists better southpaw boards to buy. Can’t really go about buying something that doesn’t exist ffs

[cunning anvil]

just make it yourself then

not serious

southpaw is a niche

[true charm]

For it to be a niche there would have to actually exist some accessible southpaw boards lol as of rn there really aren’t. Which is wild

No

[cunning anvil]

oh you want all the buttons

was gonna suggest a thing but nvm

would need to cut at least the frow

[boreal rivet]

You should buy a fc980c

[true charm]

A ReLyra?

[cunning anvil]

uh gh60 compatible southpaw idk

[true charm]

Are you having a stroke? That’s not southpaw

[cunning anvil]

yea but its realforce so thats all he'll recc

[true charm]

That doesn’t have a numpad

[cunning anvil]

not unless you diy it

15u wide is plenty

well, ig maybe have to cut a liiitle bit more than frow

would be a jank nav

iunno ive got design on the mind

[true charm]

Please inform me where you intend on stuffing a num-pad

[cunning anvil]

in the middle

[true charm]

that’s not southpaw. If I wanted to use layers I’d just do that with my current board

[cunning anvil]

i was kidding about the middle

southpaw is on the left

[true charm]

Yes but there must exist the switches to make a numpad. I can not just magically grow a whole section of keebs

[cunning anvil]

you only need like 10 width for most keys anyways

leaves 5u for a numpad

3u if you use 1u keys

[true charm]

Leave 5u how

[cunning anvil]

leaves space for nav

[true charm]

I swear to fuck if you say just don’t have the buttons that are supposed to be there imma have an aneurysm

[cunning anvil]

sorry im a 40 user

i may have a broken brain

[true charm]

You do

I need them accessible 100% of the time for actual productivity not just gaming.

[cunning anvil]

mean

[true charm]

So 96% or 1800

[cunning anvil]

stretching and contortions doesnt sound productive anyways

1ufh

i can see the case for numpad bc data entry

[true charm]

welp this was unproductive. I'll never post real questions here again lol

[cunning anvil]

look i just speak for my sphere of knowledge

[true charm]

CAD

[cunning anvil]

yea?

i guess im more a typist than a productive member of society, so sorry

CAD on 40s is fine fwiw

but thats just my workflow

or something

[true charm]

Yes it’s doable, but I’d like a numpad so I can have everything just available to me

I have the deskspace

[cunning anvil]

yeah numpad is cool

frow and numrow are on my shit list tho

actually only half of numrow

[true charm]

It blows my mind that southpaw doesn’t catch on

[cunning anvil]

its like a left handed mouse

[true charm]

It isn’t tho.

Right handed people gain utility out of a southpaw keyboard

[cunning anvil]

oh yeah because no one makes one an ambipaw keyboard

[cunning anvil]

Do you mind used keyboards?

[true charm]

I believe there’s that one board that had like switchable modules

[true charm]

If it’s in good condition, not really

[harsh belfry]

theres been a couple RoG keebs with detachable numpads like that

and mountain too

[true charm]

Yea I’m not getting a RoG keyboard 🤣

[harsh belfry]

https://mountain.gg/keyboards/everest-max/

[main narwhal]

there's been a slew of southpaw numpad boards in the past few years

[true charm]

I have found 2.5 that are still in production

[main narwhal]

divinikey just stocked that reversible frowless tkl

the uh

daringrun

[true charm]

10kl being the problem

[main narwhal]

I have an ext65, but I never use it lol

[cunning anvil]

is there an issue with getting a matching numpad? is it the extra cableage or what

actually its probably aesthetic reason for one or another isnt it

[true charm]

I’d like to have a single unit. I prefer the look.

Admittedly I don’t want to use up an extra USB slot either

Once I upgrade my pc soon though that probably won’t be an issue

[main narwhal]

Wait so, what are you looking for again?

[cunning anvil]

southpaw numpad?

[true charm]

96% or 1800 southpaw of better quality than keychron

[cunning anvil]

how important is frow to your flow

[true charm]

I’d prefer to keep it but if I have num row and num pad I could make do ig

[cunning anvil]

lol southpaw extended 65% is so sold out

eu seems to have... something

[true charm]

The relyra?

[cunning anvil]

oh its pro micro based, prob doesnt qualify as better than kc

[true charm]

https://relyra.shop/images/source/customer-photos/Lyra-promo-3.webp

[cunning anvil]

daw cutie