peripherals

[ornate oasis]

Does anyone have a good 40$ lightweight mouse recommendation? I was looking at Hyperx haste, I got pretty big hands or otherwise I would go with the glorious O small

[native sundial]

What do you consider light weight

[heady compass]

anyone else had their keychron keycaps shatter?

also the pbt they're made out of seems to be really cheap and garbage, the spacebar on my v1 became glossy after just a month of use

i've had this keyboard for abt 2 years now

[young spoke]

high ground keyboards just seem so overpriced to me

[halcyon quartz]

They are

[charred plank]

I need a non biased perspective on which sounds better

[charred plank]

@patent belfry I made 1 last revision

[covert monolith]

They’re extremely overpriced I didn’t know that before getting this I thought they were hella premium

The 75 dollar epomaker sounds better. I just wanted to get a 60 percent

So I might do the epomaker ep64 which is only 59

[fleet scroll]

dude how the hell do i get the other stabilisers in without 1 or more falling out and setting back all of my progress

they are not

i’m using these https://computerorbit.com/products/everglide-panda-v3-plate-mounted-transparent-black-stabilizers?variant=43172898013426&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=17984854303&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD8TlpJAm_HuE6buJCf60kNTK9jmz&gclid=CjwKCAjwhvi0BhA4EiwAX25ujyi8GrYQcp5iCxUuM8lnAKaObQgnh4-47aljuHV7aGutOLLFW163xhoCVDwQAvD_BwE

ok hold on

@patent belfry

the switch housing???

i thought all stabilisers were the same man

the only videos ive found told me how to install tuem

how do i do it right

what video dude

there isn’t a video

[halcyon hatch]

good keyboard sub 200?

GBP

[pliant wyvern]

I'm new to the Keyboard niche and should I get this keyboard? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006784290272.html

[boreal rivet]

no

buy a realforce

[charred plank]

Final revision

Got it sounding even deeper than before and even more consistent on the space bar

[young spoke]

that’s literally impossible

every sound test or comparison is biased

[young spoke]

they make 60% epos

i used to have one

[young spoke]

what are the differences between the epomaker f87 and the f87 pro other then wireless

because it’s £20 more

it’s just wireless support and graywood v4s?

[boreal rivet]

Both are terrible, one is 20 pounds less bad

[young spoke]

how are they terrible?

[bitter oar]

They just hate epomaker, that's it

[young spoke]

oh ok

other then biases is there anything wrong with the F87

[bitter oar]

No, it's just mid nowadays with all the other keyboards around

No via/qmk

[boreal rivet]

exactly

epomaker is terrible

realforce is the best choice

you're so right on this one thing dinky

[bitter oar]

just like any other company...

[boreal rivet]

what are you saying bruh

PFU is the goat

[bitter oar]

what's pfu

[bitter oar]

that epomaker isn't that horrible compared to other companies

[boreal rivet]

they kinda are tho

[bitter oar]

most of their backlash comes from poor customer support and sues agaisnt their own manufactuners

uhh, not the worst thing company can do...

[boreal rivet]

yes wow they are not that terrible since they only sue their oems instead of like

outright scam people yup

oh and they have terrible support

but thats ok because atleast they don't scam ppl!

[bitter oar]

look at other companies and their controversies not even close for epomaker being the worst

even fucking asus, which is much larger on a scale and how much people it actually affects/ed, and they have done quite few shady stuff along side gigabyte

rockstar suing a random company for changing it's logo to an R, it has nothing to do with their logo they just sued the company

iirc

[boreal rivet]

ah so their actions as a company aren't that bad because much larger companies are much much worse

[young spoke]

yeah

[bitter oar]

msi, zotac customer leaks

[young spoke]

anyway i don’t give a shit

i just want a TKL keyboard

[boreal rivet]

so if they sold you the wrong model and told you to eat shit when you wanted to exchange it

it ok since its not as bad as other companies right

[bitter oar]

yes, but if you say epomaker is dogshit you should also call other companies out not just the individual that's just mediocre on the scale

[boreal rivet]

dinky you are so dumb bruh

[bitter oar]

whoever knows whgat your favorite companies do, it could be even worse what epomaker does/

[boreal rivet]

I'm pretty sure PFU have never sued their own OEM before

still that is besides the point

[bitter oar]

I've not said every company is evil but that some/other companies are worse, obviously there is a chance epomaker would "scam you" but from my experience and 95% of users it wasn't the case

so my point is... asus, msi, zotac, prob even nzxt, gigabyte did worse than epomaker has done so far (these companies have affected far more people by their actions because they're much larger and should take more responsibility instead of shipping fire catching, exploding, flawed products)

[boreal rivet]

i know that

let me inform you first hand that your point is terrible

like epomaker

[bitter oar]

genuinely someone could have bought iirc it has the h1? and their adapter would catch fire, your carpet would catch fire and end up in burning down your house. nzxt would likely not be responsible for that

because who'd know it was the case's cable it was?

that's much worse than epomaker not shipping your order properly 1 in 100~ case

so, let me put it like this, I don't like epomaker nor hate it. that's my full opinion on it.

larger companies just sue everyone they can once they have any little reason to do it

[boreal rivet]

would it surprise you to find out that doing things on accident is not the same as doing something on purpose

its crazy how unaware you are of your own stupidity

[bitter oar]

??? are you aware companies try to cover up their mistakes and blame everyone else for it?

how can you call me stupid when you ignore this fact

also how do you know it's on purpose?

it could be internal issue of the company having poor management, communication

gigabyte p-gm psu controversy was a prime example

they only did a soft recall after getting all the backlash

they blamed all the reviewers for making the psus explode

[boreal rivet]

was I referring to gigabyte psus?

once again proving my point

[bitter oar]

where you're proving your point?

[boreal rivet]

and still

you don't seem to understand my original argument

[bitter oar]

my whole argument is literally based on that epomaker isn't even remotely close to being the worst

[bitter oar]

because it's nonesense

[boreal rivet]

and my argument is, yes that is valid if you compare it to every company ever bruh

let me put it this way

google is a absolutely horrible company that makes epomaker look like a saint when you compare the two

but when will you ever compare the two

epomaker sells keyboards

so compare them to keyboard companies you idiot

once again you fail to understand the concept of context

[bitter oar]

that's up to the company what they want to sell/ provide a service, in the end the other companies do worse it doesn't matter all that much what they do, there are small horrible companies around the world aswell, or larger that don't even get called out

epomaker doesn't stand out by how much bad they do. Yes, they're eh but whatever

[boreal rivet]

^^

I rest my case

[bitter oar]

explain your context then because I don't understand at what what you're trying to say

[bitter oar]

here ^^

[boreal rivet]

ok maybe you just didn't understand my original statement

[bitter oar]

if google wanted they could provide actually good services without doing shady stuff just like epomaker can improve their service with keyboards.*

[boreal rivet]

i said epomaker is terrible in the context of keyboards and keyboard companies

[bitter oar]

that literally breaks down your point

[boreal rivet]

is that clear enough for you?

[bitter oar]

ugh... gaming companies

peripheral gaming companies

[boreal rivet]

ok let me make it super precise so you don't misunderstand me

i said epomaker is terrible in the context of keyboards and enthusiast keyboard companies

sorry for expecting more out of your critical thinking skills

I understand bruh

[bitter oar]

they... are cheap...

[boreal rivet]

ah their products are cheap so its fine if they are an objectively terrible company with objectively terrible products

[bitter oar]

look at average epomaker board and average gaming company board at the same price.

[boreal rivet]

strawman

next

actually

no next

[bitter oar]

again, they're not terrible if they're priced well

[boreal rivet]

I'm gonna play games now

[young spoke]

mfs

shut the fuck up ong

[bitter oar]

im fine logitech or whatever selling their garbage keyboard if they're priced reasonably instead of selling literal junk at $150

[young spoke]

yeah

[bitter oar]

logitech is selling a $30 keyboard at $150 what was it the g pro keyboard I forgot

[boreal rivet]

have a nice day dinky

😊

[glossy mesa]

Remember to always take advantage of stupid consumers

[young spoke]

me when selling trading pcs

rx580+11400f for £800

(i only sold it for £400 im not that much of a scammer)

[young spoke]

this guy did say that epomaker is horrible for some reason

[thick totem]

careful!! they might threaten you with a mod report!!

[modest condor]

horrible company

[young spoke]

why?

[modest condor]

https://imgur.com/FZKDxdt

could not find the actual link

[young spoke]

ok

idc

i’m gonna buy my f87

what?

[crimson dome]

Looking at getting a new keyboard, moving to wireless so had a look and main ones I’m considering are:

Keychron K10 Wireless UK ISO (£75)
Logitech G915 TKL (£125ish)
Logitech G915 (non-TKL, around £170)

What are your opinions? (I live in the UK so they MUST be UK ISO layout)

[covert monolith]

Yeh I’m gonna get the ep64 it’s 60 percent

[covert monolith]

The f75 sounds amazing bro with the reaper switches for 70 bucks it’s so good

It sounds so creamy and milky

[boreal rivet]

yes bro it sounds so good bro

please buy more

create a collection of epomaker

[cunning anvil]

oh

that's a quick turnaround

[crimson dome]

excited to try this, have high hopes

was recommended it over the G915 TKL because the G915 has poor keycap lifespan and repairability with said keycaps is near enough impossible

[forest pebble]

I had a g915 tkl at some point, well yeah keycaps have a poor abs blend, it's a modified kailh choc stem so there is only the stock keycaps compatible as replacement

[cunning anvil]

thiccly thocci

[fleet scroll]

my spacebar already sounds awful but now it makes this high-pitched squeaking noise, anyone know what this is?

[thick totem]

is it mechanical

[crimson oxide]

Guys I need help I need a keyboard below 70 usd, I have a few specifications I like…. 75%TKL (becuz I need the ‘~’ key), red switch, preferably wireless and also low profile

Does anyone know where I can buy such a keyboard?

[bitter oar]

aliexpress man

[crimson oxide]

This sound is heaven

[crimson oxide]

Hmm alr imma check

[crimson oxide]

I want that thock sound tho like this

Any mods I can do after buying to make it sound like that?

[jovial latch]

ajazz 820 pro orr aula 75?

orr should I get the rk m75

[thick totem]

dont get royal kludge

[fleet scroll]

yes

[thick totem]

might be the spacebar brackets

[fleet scroll]

the what

[thick totem]

the

wait

[fleet scroll]

the stabilisers?

[thick totem]

yeah those things

thats a very vague not very thought out idea

[bitter oar]

check the r75 it's just better

[bitter oar]

it depends on the price

[jovial latch]

ajazz 820 pro is like a little cheaper than aula

[bitter oar]

80 usd is bit too mcuhi'd not get the aula for that much

check aliexpress you can get a cnc'd keyboard under 100 bucks

[jovial latch]

sorry but whats a cnc'd keyboard?

[jovial latch]

i heard the rk keyboards arent as good

[bitter oar]

yeah, most of them aren’t especially the older ones

but the r75 is solid

[jovial latch]

ohh i see but still what is a cnc keyboard?

[bitter oar]

umh… google

[jovial latch]

mb but do u got any suggestions

[bitter oar]

something like womier sk75

or such

prob one of twenty that there are available at around 100 bucks

do some research aliexpress prices change depending on the country

btw, if you want to save even more taobao + agent works but that requires a bit more work

[boreal rivet]

Realforce

Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber

[jovial latch]

Thats a couple hundred no?

[boreal rivet]

Shop around for a used one

[jovial latch]

Thats still like a hundred

[boreal rivet]

It’s worth it

[jovial latch]

I dont really want to spend a lot on keyboard

[boreal rivet]

Then you should buy something as cheap as possible

[boreal rivet]

Love how they printed the formula for capacitance on the side

[sour smelt]

hey y'all, is there a way to find out the controller used for a keyboard so I can try porting QMK to it?

Oh, and google search has failed me. I have a K599 Deimos (Redragon)

[worn bridge]

What the heck Newegg Regular $199.99 in Canada but Oh look my email from newegg says it's 90% off.

Oh wait, it's regularly $19.99 in the USA

And under $10 elsewhere.

Like is this a crime? It should be a crime.

[worn bridge]

And right above it in the same email Samsung QVO. When was it $599 exactly newegg?

[boreal rivet]

no one cares

we all know newegg is scum

[chrome raft]

What do you all think about the epomaker shadow x with wisteria switches

[young spoke]

are the £30 60% keyboards on amazon a scam?

[boreal rivet]

No

You should buy them

[worn bridge]

Well you might be in amarica but in canada I think this is literally a crime.

You can't have a product advertise it 1/2 off of a price you never listed it for. That's pretty direct misleading the consumer.

[boreal rivet]

Putting aside the fact that I’m nowhere close to America, if you care so much about it being a crime then report it to whatever your consumer rights authority is?

You really think posting this here is going to do anything?

Newegg being shit is old news

[worn bridge]

I just want to poke fun, sorry it pushed your buttons

[boreal rivet]

for sure man, I believe you

[worn bridge]

Hope mods keep track of users and user friendly interactions. Have a nice day

[main narwhal]

Lol epomaker

[wheat elm]

https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/office-consumer-affairs/en/business-practices-and-consumer-concerns/unfair-or-deceptive-business-practices

They do have a way to report it if you so desire

[worn bridge]

Hey, there's a conversation worth having. Yeah there it is.

"Misleading advertising occurs when a claim about a product or service is materially false, in an attempt to persuade the consumer to buy it."

Ordinary selling price strategies—when a product notes an inflated price to create the illusion of offering a better deal.

[wheat elm]

I think the most relevant part of the page is that last one yeah :p

Literally verbatim what we're talking about

[worn bridge]

If I recall correctly tho, you can report it and it might get noted but the only say to MAKE them take action is to buy the item. Then report it, because than you're a victim of the practices they employ.

But you also have to have been legitimately taken advantage of and found out after the fact or some nonsense.

You don't want a $200 keyboard for $19.99 come on. Why not. It's shiny ✨️ lol

[main narwhal]

is it even their store lol

or is it a 3rd market seller

coz them ppl just do w/e the eff

[worn bridge]

Valid point but it was Newegg who emailed the deal too me.

@patent belfry
I do disagree tho. That email is from today, there could be Canadians receiving that same email and this LTT keyboard tab might make them cancel the order or not even order it.

The spread of information is a good thing.

And given in the past 48 hours prior to my post this keyboard tab averaged just over 1 message an hour. I figured it wasn't hurting anyone's conversations

Thanks for the conversation. Not what I was expecting, but at least it was engaging I suppose.

[wheat elm]

Obviously, but there is a point where it's just victim blaming.

[main narwhal]

a1 sauce new switch lube

[bitter oar]

in europe it happens more than you'd think

ib in europe it's even more strict than in canada and it happens here even more often

they simply don't give a fuck

around 80% of major retailers in my country do that

[bitter oar]

for example I found a canyon mouse when i was looking for something dirt cheap for 5 bucks it was discounted from 20 for the red version, and then the same retailer had black version of the exact same mouse for 5 bucks without any discounts and msrp of the mouse was something like 6.99

you could say some employee did a whoopsie but when they do it not just on couple goods it suspicious

especially when other sellers have the good at cheaper without discount than the already 'discounted' from the other one

[charred plank]

china joy switches

[covert monolith]

The gateron smoothie switches are pretty good

[worn bridge]

That sounds like gatekeeping to me.

Everyone starts somewhere, sharing of knowledge and enthusiasm for the things you like is how you expand a community.

Just saying "Get good bro" isn't welcoming or helpful.

Be an ambassador to the things you enjoy and those things will improve as more minds and creativity enter you community.

[bitter oar]

which you don't usually give instead you do your realforce meme and ya also banned me from your server for having a different opinion

that is 100% gatekeeping

[worn bridge]

Example: I entered chat, you don't know who I am but you do know a keyboard caught my attention.

Instead of engaging and providing the wealth of an enthusiasts knowledge, a few people said "go away you don't belong here"

Or at least that's how it felt. 🤷

[worn bridge]

Wow, not cool.

[bitter oar]

he was also gaslighting me multiple time and after I calling him out he told me he was just trolling me the whole time

which is also agaisnt there rules here...

didn't really feel like trolling to me, no sorry or anything he hasn't unbanned me from the server (even if I don't care about the server)

[worn bridge]

Let's try again

I seen this product from drop ($500!) I know enough to know I don't know what I need to know to be confident purchasing this product.

But believe enthusiasts would be able to build this cheaper or at least get 95% of the way there.

Unless this product is just over priced.

I don't have the information (yet) to be confident of jumping into custom boards.

Any enthusiasts got thoughts suggestions or parts list for half the price lmao 🤣

[worn bridge]

Repeat offender it seems

[charred plank]

That would be the perfect chassis for me

How much was it?

I'd say there is a lot of in between. I bought a $50 board and just modded it and swapped it to hand lubed switches and made my own gasket to get a deep and poppy result which I'd say is some enthusiast tier effort. It's very possible to spend very little and be an enthusiast, as it's also possible to spend a lot and be more casual to a hobby.

And a whole range of crossover

depends on if they like the sound or not and if they're willing to mod it to a sound they'll like

I'd say it's more helpful to ask what sound they are looking for and give advice on what might get them closer than to say "you're either an enthusiast or not"

Same applies with feel

Or even visuals

There are ways to make a keyboard feel better too

You can add a weighted plate, you can get tighter tolerance switches or switches with with a better force profile, you can add more feet for better grip, etc

If they don't want to mess with it you ask if they're willing to do such and such to get closer to what they want and if not recommend something closer to what they want stock

You can do that without gatekeeping them from the hobby

I kinda don't either because I've noticed most of the people who are more prevalent in the hobby are against the idea of putting in effort to get what you want

It's a common stance I've seen in the hobby just trying to get into it

The mk discord is the worst imo

Not saying you are doing these things to be clear

Just don't like the idea of saying someone either is all in or not in at all

Mk discord seemed almost mad that I got deeper switches for making my keyboard sound deeper and that I put in effort to hand lubed switches to get a better sound because "you should only lube the switch if it's borderline broken"

They unironically gatekeep not being an enthusiast and pretend that's what it means to be an enthusiast

That's the helpers and mods on the server

There are some bad mainstream takes in every hobby I've been in meant to cope for low effort being better than actual effort but the keyboard server has it most prevalent in my experience

[thick totem]

honestly

thocctober is well within his rights to "gatekeep"

because keyboard rely

SO heavily on opinion

i personally dont like clicky switches

if its loud and you can ehar it through yuor headphones i hate it

but soft thocky keyboards are just perfection

I had to research what keyboard i wanted

i personally had to figure out what it was that i wanted

yeah i understand being overwhelmed with info but at a certain point u gotta stop

say "this keyboard looks fine"

buy it

and learn from a potential mistake

ik im like 10 minutes late

[charred plank]

I'm just saying it makes a lot more sense to reason with someone what's best for their specific needs and willingness to put effort in

[thick totem]

yeah clearly

[charred plank]

Hell, there are probably better solutions than how I made my keyboard reach the sound I wanted but I couldn't find them cause nobody was willing to give advice

[thick totem]

i am not a hobbyist

i will be when i get 3 keyboards

and i will

[charred plank]

When asking for good blue/purple caps I never got help so I just got some cheap plastic ones on Amazon for example

[thick totem]

we've all been given the "buy a realforce" treatment

[charred plank]

Or like how I had to make my own k ring because nobody would really talk about which I should get

[thick totem]

my best mate said i am a loser for wasting almost £100 on a keyboard

[charred plank]

Or even how I got China joys because they seemed close to what I wanted but wherever I asked for advice the response was just to stick with the much worse yellows I already have

[thick totem]

true very true

i should get money to pay for the barebones keyboard soon

so im hyped

i need to get painters tape for the tape mod

[charred plank]

I'm probably going to eventually try for a metal chassis

[thick totem]

yeah like

keyboard without

siwtches and keycaps

[charred plank]

If I can find a nice blue one

[thick totem]

arent those super expensive

thats quite nice

whered you get it

do u know where they got it from

or anything like that

cuz that looks super nice

[charred plank]

@patent belfry sorry if it seemed like I was ranting directly about you. It's more me just venting about the community as a whole

Mainly cause I've been in a lot of hobbies and none have been as against effort and dedication as this one

[thick totem]

okay ty

you have a yt

omg

that sounds os good

[charred plank]

https://diykeycap.com/products/blue-purple-with-keycaps

How are these

Or is there a better option for that color scheme

Unironically no budget for the keycaps because I'm not buying them this week

Maybe not $1k for the keycaps but like if $100 keycaps mach my aesthetic well and will sound a lot better and feel better I'm all for it

[thick totem]

honestly just go onto aliexpress or temu or somehting

keycaps are typically the same everywhere

some places do better quality yeah

but as long as you arent throwing the keyboard across the room idk if they'll fail horribly

keycaps i've got are from aliexpress and they're quire good

[bitter oar]

I’d not recommend ducky boards they’re overpriced

aliexpress if you’re willing :>

[charred plank]

Just looking at the caps

Want something like this but thicker

[bitter oar]

oh mb

[worn bridge]

Yeah, @$500 and watching hours and hours of keyboard reviews you definitely get the felling that they all want to say... build your own but there is so many levels of personal preference you can't really recommend a individual product.

But it's also safe to assume there are standout brands or products lines that aren't highway robbery

[charred plank]

I could I guess get cap gaskets or o rings

[bitter oar]

check aliexpress there is a TON of options

[worn bridge]

General Keyboard keycap terminology question:
Been trying to locate a keycap type but pictures are often hard to judge and terminology is often lacking. I don't know what keywords to use.

If I were name it off the top of my head I'd call it "double shot jelly glow" or something. lol

Looking for something that the whole keycap glows but there is a clear under layer so light is brighter or clear through the letters etc.

[spiral mica]

pudding keycaps?

[worn bridge]

Definitely fits the description.

I was wondering a technical description of process to help limit results. Like maybe double shot crystal PBT or something.

BUT even digging from "pudding" I think you might have as descriptive as I can get for a keyword to work from. So many options so little technical description.

So anyways thanks for your input, it's helping lol

[charred plank]

What's the best stabilizer to get?

Nm, I went with durock

They seem to have the best tolerances on switches at least

So id assume it's similar with stablizers

[bitter oar]

uh, actually durocks are ones of the stabs that you have to mod to get them sound right in the most part, you may experience some rattle even if they’re just lubed

[charred plank]

You bean lubing them?

[bitter oar]

not really great with their stabilizers

[bitter oar]

no, modding them for example holee mod

[charred plank]

I'm going to lube them anyways

[bitter oar]

I personally like tx stabs rev 3

they don’t even need lubing

[charred plank]

Holee mod seems pretty easy

Just damp the hole basically

I also bought a metal plate to reinforce my keyboard

And to weigh it down a bit

[main narwhal]

I'm not sure that exists.

Closest you might get to that effect are white puddings.

Something else to look into are Jelly Poms with legends, but the legends won't be as readable as you want

It'll tick the "whole keycap glows" box though.

[misty crypt]

looking for panda-like tactiles... thoughts on gateron jupiter bananas?

[spiral mica]

their stabs kinda bad

expensive and needs modding

best one rn would probably be typeplus x yikb

[boreal rivet]

Real

Buy realforce

No need for special lube or tools

Just dump dielectric grease into it

[charred plank]

Tobleh moment

[wheat elm]

Topre my beloved

[glossy mica]

its not about if they'll fail lol it's more about the sound and quality difference between manufacturers that is the reason people buy more expensive keycaps

[charred plank]

Mech keys server is so braindead

Whole server has been arguing it's impossible to use resin to connect a metal weight to a board that doesn't have a stock weight

Which I've already done...

And the argument is literally as brain rotted as "it's impossible because I wouldn't want to do it"

[boreal rivet]

The idea is still stupid

[cunning anvil]

RP2350

very exciting

cant wait to bang out another one off

should probably design a socketed mcu design tbh

i keep tryin new mcus

[crisp patrol]

thocky tharbly marbly buttery creamy clocky poppy

[charred plank]

I hope that's an ironic statement

[vague aspen]

Hey i wanted to ask whats the quitest yet best sounding keyboard switch

[main narwhal]

Actually, I like Silent topre

Sounds like raindrops

In general, I don't like silenced switches though since the mechanics behind silencing switches usually makes them a little gummy on the bottom out

[crisp patrol]

but why

[crisp patrol]

dampened alps aren't very gummy

[charred plank]

Adds support and weight to the chassis while being cheap

[main narwhal]

I like mx zilent variants

[crisp patrol]

just get a board with a weight

[main narwhal]

I'll stick cherry silent stems with a good spring in any kind of durock or zeal manud housing and generally like how it feels

[charred plank]

Pretty sure that costs more than $5 it costs for a metal plate

[crisp patrol]

yeah that happens when you use brass, copper, steel, etc

[charred plank]

I promise you the raw material is less than what the chassis manufacturer charges you

They aren't taking a loss to help you get weight in your chassis

[crisp patrol]

obviously

however some are milled, lasered, etc

[charred plank]

Not that there is anything wrong with paying more for a more refined solution

But this by laws of common sense is a cheaper solution

[crisp patrol]

the most similar thing I'd do to that is putting a silencing mat on my hhkb

[charred plank]

At the cost of visuals but the addition of versatility

[crisp patrol]

frog mini

[charred plank]

still need to replace the stabilizers but its almost fully there

[boreal rivet]

It’s almost as if case weights are machined to spec and not just a random piece of metal you glue on

[charred plank]

They're meant to be a weight. The designs are a bonus but it's not like those designs are some magic control factor frl resonances

[boreal rivet]

You don’t understand how much it costs to machine a weight with tight tolerances and have it finished without flaws

[charred plank]

A weight doesn't need tight tolerances to be a weight

[boreal rivet]

You think weights just stick onto the back?

[charred plank]

This cost $5

[boreal rivet]

Wow congrats

You stuck an inconsequential slab of steel onto some random 60$ keyboard with epoxy

Totally the same as regular keyboard weights

[charred plank]

Effectively it is @boreal rivet

It just doesn't look as cool

But it weighs what it's spec is and it is in its spec dimensions

[boreal rivet]

Yeah technically it’s a weight but you wouldn’t call a pi 5 a gaming pc would you?

Like bruh you’re dumber than dinky

[charred plank]

If I slab a brass weight that's 8 x 3 inches on the back of a keyboard that originally had a 8x3 inch brass weight of the same density they'll sound the same

The design and polishing doesn't change the sound

Just the look

[boreal rivet]

That is simply not how that works

[charred plank]

It is

It's objectively how a weight works

[boreal rivet]

It really is not

[charred plank]

It supports the chassis over a given dimension and it adds a given weight

[boreal rivet]

Please don’t use the word objective if you can’t even quantify the variables that make up how a keyboard sounds

[charred plank]

What else do you think the weight does that adding a design to it would change beyond aesthetics?

[boreal rivet]

I’m not talking about vanity designs buddy

If you really think that then I have no reason to try and educate you

[charred plank]

Then what do you think a weight does that can't be done as well with the same dimensions and weight...

[boreal rivet]

Keep telling yourself that piece of steel does something bruh

[charred plank]

What do you think a polished fancy weight of the same spec as a crude solution does better

[boreal rivet]

First of all, it’s not attached with bloody epoxy

Second of all it’s location within the case and the case itself is a big factor

But you don’t realise that do you

It’s simply not about whether the weight is polished or finished well, the fact is your “weight” was stuck on with epoxy and is so small that it has an almost completely negligible effect on how your keyboard sounds

[charred plank]

And what do you think the epoxy does relative to what the weights role is...

Also, the location is the bottom of the board, where it's just increasing density and weight

There isn't any magic to it

[boreal rivet]

Nah

I’ve given you enough of my time

[charred plank]

And the amount of weight you choose to epoxy on is completely optional

[boreal rivet]

Continue huffing the copium

[charred plank]

I could get an 2 inch thick brass plate to put on the bottom if id like to

That's just how physics work...

There isn't any magic that some company adds

Physics are physics

[boreal rivet]

Good to know your physics doesn’t include acoustics 👍

[charred plank]

Do you not understand that the weight and area of the chassis the plate is reinforcing is exactly what affects acoustics...

The main point of the plate is it makes it harder for the chassis itself to reverberate and to a degree reduces harmonic behaviors

That's why you add a weight

Again, there's no magic to it

The weight is a weight

It adds weight

Arguably it's partially structural support too

But even there no magic

It just reinforces a given area of the chassis

[junior jacinth]

EU should make a law that says all keyboards have to come with only USB-C cables

It's high time we retire keyboards connected to USB-A.

[pulsar agate]

Nope

My usb-c is on top of the case and my case on the desk

So i will tangle myself in the wires all the time

And not all motherboards even have usb-c

What even the point of usb-c for keyboard?

[spice sun]

only usb-c is gonna be a hell hole lmao

[forest pebble]

Mini USB keyboard gang

I do have mostly USB c keyboard though 😂

Well I have the UTD 360c and the fmj80 with fixed cables also

[slate ocean]

hi so im almost done soldering my first kb, but i wanna make the switches hot swappable. does anyone have any recommendations for switch sockets?

[slate ocean]

i see multiple sizes for that. which one would you say is standard?

@patent belfry

alrighty, ty

[modest condor]

i use these 3305-0-15-15-47-27-10-0

[slate ocean]

ty

[modest condor]

https://no.mouser.com/ProductDetail/575-3305015154720000

i buy mine from mouser

[modest condor]

change location , this link is for Norway

[slate ocean]

yep, im looking at them now

[charred plank]

Decided to mix and match sets until I get a better pbt set or a metal/ceramic set

[charred plank]

Gonna build a second keyboard eventually in a lucky 65

Gonna see if I can tune it to sound the same as the royalaxe mod

If I can I'll probably give away the royal axe to a friend

If not I'll keep the lucky65 as a showpiece on my desk

[crisp patrol]

metal sucks unless you wanna dump way more than your keyboard is worth and ceramic sucks regardless

[charred plank]

It seems so hard to get a good purple and blue colored cap set

[crisp patrol]

niche colorway

most specific colors are gonna be cheap shit or a gmk set you can hardly find anywhere

[cunning anvil]

dang my friend wants to commish me for a 75

rowstag tho

[cunning anvil]

never mind its half ortho :o

[cunning anvil]

tofu60/gh60 much different outside of name?

hate looking into mounting options

is there a standard 70%-75% case

[muted karma]

mini USB is so ass (I typed this on a UTD 356 mini with mini USB)

at least it has actual mini USB, the OG PCBs had a physical mini USB that only did ps/2

and you can't really get the USB-C repro PCBs made for it

and I sure as hell am not gonna comission one of them

[main narwhal]

I keep meaning to get the hasu mod to swap my fc660c from mini to c

[muted karma]

at least you got an option

only one in my case is the mechlovin kay60

which was GB only 2 years ago

[blissful remnant]

yo is the aula f75 x epomaker good?

[cunning anvil]

gh60 case could fit this

the grey/black is circuitry

[cunning anvil]

hey thocc

[cunning anvil]

torn between that pic and just a straight 5x10

maybe 5x12

like this

[young spoke]

i have the f87 its fine the f75 has the same keycaps and switches so yeah probably just as good

[cunning anvil]

layout slaps or nah

[cunning anvil]

i wonder if i can make a touchpad that big

[cunning anvil]

i kinda want to design one myself

since peacock qmk trackpad exists

which looks like it uses an overkill sensor for my use

which could also be funny

might design a circuit for an spi trackpad for now

[cunning anvil]

but this fits in a gh60, wireless (black "key" is the nice!nano spot)

https://www.microchip.com/en-us/product/ATMXT225TD-A

cutie

[lost lodge]

so do I ask which keyboard I should get over here?

budget is around $50

[lost lodge]

hows the RK61 Plus?

[native sundial]

Personally didn’t like the RK61 when I had it but idk about the plus

[modest condor]

https://imgur.com/a/royal-kludge-is-good-brand-you-should-buy-keyboards-x7LTFwp

[lost lodge]

Then what’s an actually good keyboard under $50

[regal fox]

i have royal kludge RK71, its the best keyboard i ever had and comparing to logitech mechanical keyboards its way way better and way way way way cheaper

also important to note that it has a 2.4 ghz dongle which is not something granted for way more expensive keyboards, which makes it flawless while gaming

[lost lodge]

Heard that they aren’t that good because of the lack of the ability to modify it

And the build quality isn’t the best because it doesn’t use screws and the body is made out of plastic

[lost lodge]

What’s special about a 2.4ghz dongle?

[regal fox]

compared to bluetooth, speed and stability

[native sundial]

My RK84 was really solid, I just replaced it with a Wooting though

The wireless was ass though i always used it wired

[charred plank]

swapped stabilizers

[barren gazelle]

Is mucai MK 61 good keyboard?

[lost lodge]

is it possible to build a custom keyboard for under $55 (BDT 5700)? I already have a set of keycaps (Corsair PBT Doubleshot)

[vague raven]

Can anyone recommend me a hotswappable keyboard? Max I'm willing to spend is 250€

[lost lodge]

a deal breaker for me (about the Ajazz AK820 Pro) is that the keycaps arent shine-through

any alternatives?

[charred plank]

Just do what I did. Get a cheap royal axe and mod it to the sound you want

I think I threw $85 into the thing with most of that being parts that are now going to go into my next board anyways and it sounds perfect for me

Other than being maybe 20% less loud than id like

[lost lodge]

Sadly thats probably not available out here in Bangladesh and I can't go up to $85

How's the Ajazz AK870?

It's the same price as the AK830 here

[lost lodge]

AK830 Pro*

[lost lodge]

How’s the Attack Shark K86

[cunning anvil]

my friends looking for this

wonder if i should make it an integrated custom

or pro micro

[boreal rivet]

Make your friend buy a realforce

[cunning anvil]

idk i think he just wants to support my crafts projects lol

i tried suggesting some boards but he was like nah

[cunning anvil]

typing on this now working fella

turns out it just needed a liiiil bit more solder

[young spoke]

this is the funniest thread ive seen all day

[young spoke]

i think left only sounds better

[charred plank]

They're the same. I just made one for people listening from mobo sources and one for people listening with stereo

[young spoke]

huh

they sound completely different

[charred plank]

I recorded it with a binaural mic but one I left just the left channel facing the keyboard and one with both facing it

[cunning anvil]

bout to assemble this fella

30%

so many holes

aw dang i need more sockets

[mossy umbra]

A lot of the keyboard build guides I’ve seen seem to embrace the fuck around and find out philosophy. Like, want a specific thok sound? Chuck some fabric in until it gets there.
Is that the actual experience in building one though? I really want to give it a shot and I want to know what I’m getting in to, and if that send it DIY feeling is what I should expect going in

[lost lodge]

attackshark k86 (BDT 6K), ajazz AK870 (BDT 7.5K), Ajazz AK820 (TFT Display variant, BDT 6k), Ajazz AK820 (No DIsplay, 4.2k) or the RK R75 (BDT 4k)

budget is around 6k so im not too sure about the AK870 but the design looks so good

but if I cant get the AK870, I'll probs get the attackshark because its pretty similar and its a brand im familiar with

which one is better in your opinion?

and which switches should I go for?

I want it to sound THOCCY but def not as loud as blue switches

aka from what nexgen said, theyre linear switches (the ones in the RK R75)

[thick totem]

what kinda switches are these

[cunning anvil]

update: removed the spacebar option

most likely the plate will cover the center-bottom portion, but not the top diodes, nor the center module mount

[crisp patrol]

popos?

[cunning anvil]

nop

[crisp patrol]

what distro

[cunning anvil]

i think gentoo

idr

[crisp patrol]

wack

[strong umbra]

Almost done

[lost wren]

Neat wood finish.

[strong umbra]

Thanks, I’m gonna stain it so it’s darker and kinda shiny, I’m gonna do very slightly round the corners to

[topaz wave]

got this amazing old apple keyboard

sorry about the chromebook camera quality

[boreal rivet]

So cool

[cunning anvil]

routed! got a bit messy at the end tho

[cunning anvil]

tofu60 a good case?

redux, traymount

[cunning anvil]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B4NZ7BG8

wood gh60 with a lid :o

[forest pebble]

I mean it's a tray mount 😁, I have a polycarb one, it's stiff but not too bad all things considered

Not price competitive nowadays though

I dunno about tofu 2.0

[lost lodge]

Anyone

attackshark k86 (BDT 6K), ajazz AK870 (BDT 7.5K), Ajazz AK820 (TFT Display variant, BDT 6k), Ajazz AK820 (No DIsplay, 4.2k) or the RK R75 (BDT 4k)

[charred plank]

literally the reason people think keyboard community is a joke

"what do you want exactly"
"Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I already said no advice for him because I dont like work, banned"

[lost lodge]

can you program the knob in this kb

[prime mirage]

I doubt it

Don’t get that board tho

[prime mirage]

They had a fair reason

[smoky gull]

Ngl my first keyboard (which I still use) was great but had one issue, it was LOUD AF so no late night gaming sessions for me 😭 where were you in 2020 to warn me

[charred plank]

I didn't even give advice ironically. I just inquired into the sound they want instead of just saying "nothing matters get nothing but what this pre made list has"

which I guess hurt their feelings somehow

because I didnt just continue and go with their non advice

[cunning anvil]

funny consumering

[chilly perch]

consooooom

[cunning anvil]

yeah im guilty too (just levelled to enthusiasm purely by making things that are just not perfect enough for me)

[charred plank]

by saying switches matter and asking what sound hes looking for instead of spamming a cookie cutter non answer...

so where was I misguiding them?

[cunning anvil]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B4NZ7BG8/

[charred plank]

unless you believe switches dont matter for feel or sound of a board or think literally asking someone what they want in a keyboard is misleading

[cunning anvil]

this case will warp yeah?

cant seem to find one that has a lid like that

[charred plank]

misguiding is telling someone basically all switches are the same

[cunning anvil]

just gimme light silent tactiles and im happy

[prime mirage]

….switches don’t do much for sound at all

The board and keycaps make a MUCH larger difference

[charred plank]

I would argue they play the biggest role in sound

Case makes the biggest role in gain

[prime mirage]

….

No

That’s simply not how that works

[charred plank]

The switch also plays the biggest role in feel

[cunning anvil]

MCU and layout are real important to the right people

[prime mirage]

Not the biggest but yes it does play a semi major role

[charred plank]

Everything else plays a role together in sound for sure but I'd say the switch is like the driver for the sound

It's the biggest factor

Case acts more like an amplifier

[prime mirage]

Dude why are you coming in here just arguing what the people in a completely different server said

It dosent play much in sound but in feel it does

[charred plank]

It's more that one dude acting like switches don't matter

Because he thinks nothing matters and should be stock

He also thinks lubing switches doesn't matter and adding foam or tape or other damping doesn't matter

[prime mirage]

No he dosent he just understands that some things aren’t worth the time

[prime mirage]

Lmao I have literally seen that guy say to lube switches

[prime mirage]

Because for sound they don’t

[charred plank]

What do you consider sound @prime mirage

Cause if you mean pitch you're wrong

If you mean gain you're partially wrong

If you mean the top out and bottom out sound you're 100% wrong

[prime mirage]

All around sound

[charred plank]

If you mean things like depth you're 100% wrong

[prime mirage]

Just stop arguing this it’s not going to undo what happened in the server

[charred plank]

So what part of the sound do you think switches don't play a role in...

They even play a big role in the negative sounds

[cunning anvil]

look at my consumption

oops meant to disable ping

[charred plank]

Like pinging

[chilly perch]

i wouldnt have looked at this if you didnt ping it btw

i love consoooooming

[cunning anvil]

it was mostly a general response to consumption, not directly at you lol

[chilly perch]

oh well

I LOVE CONSOOMING

[cunning anvil]

i designed the not marked boards

every one has a failure point

[charred plank]

Consoom aSUS

[cunning anvil]

and it's sad

ill be honest i dont know what switches feel like my fav anymore

everything is either too heavy or not enough travel

[young spoke]

honestly i think TKL is the best keyboard size

you get the advantages of the f row and the macros but you don’t have the bulky keypad

[cunning anvil]

i tune my keymaps to the point that ive considered running 30 key boards

(totally not just because of the inherent limitations of my favorite dev board)

[young spoke]

lol

[cunning anvil]

but i comfortably deal with 38 on average

been trying to reincorporate the half numrow into my gaming flow though

mmo mouse drives me nuts

i wish i could build a topre board without going mad

firmware

[charred plank]

?

[cunning anvil]

bag that cat

[prime mirage]

I love Asus

[charred plank]

Not surprising

[prime mirage]

Bro they are a good brand for motherboards

I’d argue one of the best

Next to msi and gigabyte

[prime mirage]

aight so we is making up words now

[charred plank]

Pinging is generally considered a negative aspect to the sound of a keyboard

I guess you can argue someone might like it

[cunning anvil]

thocc hi wanna see progress

[charred plank]

But guess what plays the biggest part in that sound even

Switches...

[charred plank]

They were but now they make a lot of trash with the exception of the z790 apex

Nothing else they make is even decent this gen

[crisp patrol]

new asus sucks

[cunning anvil]

wireless unisplit orthovan spi/i2c/encoder interconns

[crisp patrol]

all overpriced slop

nothing good

[charred plank]

And their last few apex boards have been more miss than hit

Z690 apex sucked

[prime mirage]

Bro just quit arguing you are just trying to argue when you don’t even have a point

[charred plank]

X299 apex sucked

[prime mirage]

Last Gen Asus was great current is bad

[crisp patrol]

z390 apex is ewaste

[prime mirage]

Gigabyte and msi are best rn imo

[charred plank]

Last gen Asus was bad for everything

[crisp patrol]

asrock:

[charred plank]

Even the last gen apex sucked

[prime mirage]

X570?

[prime mirage]

Oh yeah

[charred plank]

Their x570 line was historically bad

[crisp patrol]

z790i lightning is king

[prime mirage]

…..

[charred plank]

It gave up all aspects of vrm performance just for higher amperage rating and lower temps

For am4

CPUs that none of that matters for

[prime mirage]

Who do you like for motherboards

You seem to hate everything

[cunning anvil]

Raspberry Pi

[prime mirage]

So your a chad

[charred plank]

Starts arguing then refuses to answer what part of sound switches don't affect then says stop arguing

[cunning anvil]

i need to buy a screen for my pi fr fr tho

[prime mirage]

Because they don’t affect much at all

[cunning anvil]

rn im on a stinky old thinkpad

[charred plank]

What part don't they affect then

[prime mirage]

I wanna get a pie just for fun sometime

[crisp patrol]

evga

[crisp patrol]

which

[charred plank]

Cause they play the biggest role in bottom out and top out sound

[cunning anvil]

t420

[prime mirage]

…..

[crisp patrol]

I have a t430

[cunning anvil]

nice!

[prime mirage]

Bros getting angry at me for not answering a question but is ignoring a question I asked

[cunning anvil]

does it have the expresscard?

[crisp patrol]

yea pretty sure

[charred plank]

They play the biggest role in pitche other than maybe damping and arguably caps if we go to the extreme end of ceramics and metal caps

[cunning anvil]

bc you can totally play some reasonably hefty games over that

if youre dedicated enough

[crisp patrol]

nah

I got a precision otw

[charred plank]

They play the second to biggest role in volume

[crisp patrol]

quadro rtx 4000

[cunning anvil]

t430 is retro at this point i feel

[prime mirage]

Yes that’s the only thing they play a role in

[cunning anvil]

t420 is ancient :3

[crisp patrol]

it would be if the keeb was the classic ver

[prime mirage]

Also answer my question you hate on everything so what’s your favorite motherboard brand

@charred plank

[charred plank]

That's the one thing you could argue they don't

[crisp patrol]

gonna do a classic keeb swap once I have time

[cunning anvil]

Tx20 was the last one with the classics right?

[crisp patrol]

ye

[charred plank]

It would be a dumb argument

[cunning anvil]

pog i got the tail end of greatness

[charred plank]

Because like I said they play the second biggest role

[crisp patrol]

everyone sucks

[cunning anvil]

i have an extra dead t420 if youre interested in salvage

[charred plank]

But everything else they're probably the biggest player in

[crisp patrol]

asrock sucks less though

[prime mirage]

Bros still ignoring my question just because he dosent want to answer

[charred plank]

I don't have one

[crisp patrol]

what panel is it

[prime mirage]

Sorry not you Jonna I meant to reply to biooc

[charred plank]

Other than biostar

[prime mirage]

wtf

[cunning anvil]

TN lol

[charred plank]

Best line is probably oc formula line

[prime mirage]

Bio star 💀

[crisp patrol]

sorry I meant res

rn mine is 1600x900

[cunning anvil]

1366x786 or whatev

[crisp patrol]

ah

[charred plank]

Biostar makes the best xoc stuff

[cunning anvil]

planning to get a 1440p/1080p ips matte on my working T420

[prime mirage]

….

[cunning anvil]

if i can track down a kit >.>

[crisp patrol]

ocf 😐

[crisp patrol]

realistically it'll just be finding a panel and hoping it works

you'll be limited to 1080p probably though

[cunning anvil]

they have lvds to edp kits or something

[crisp patrol]

idk if 1440p uses 30p edp

[charred plank]

So what plays more of a role than switches in bottom out and top out sound

[cunning anvil]

it actually does work with a 1440p with the right driver

its been done

[crisp patrol]

ah

[cunning anvil]

just hard to find the kit 😔

[prime mirage]

Board and keycaps as I’ve said 15 times

[crisp patrol]

best thinkpad display

[cunning anvil]

idk if 16gb is enough for that actually

prob for what im doing but

[crisp patrol]

16gb ram?

[cunning anvil]

yea

[crisp patrol]

should be fine as long as it's nothing ram heavy

[charred plank]

Biostar aio

[cunning anvil]

sad that 16gb is the max

yo jonna guess the cpu on this bad boy

[crisp patrol]

thinkpads kinda suck at performance per dollar imo

[charred plank]

You think those play a bigger role in bottom out sound and the top out sound? Then you're just wrong

[crisp patrol]

that's why I'm selling my p50 for a precision

[charred plank]

Board plays a big role in bottom out gain maybe

[crisp patrol]

swapped to a 4c?

[prime mirage]

Just quit trying to argue when there is no point to be made

[boreal rivet]

I don’t like tobleh either but he is right

[cunning anvil]

yup, ivy bridge too

pin compatible next gen B)

with

partial vulkan support!

and NO windows thermal management drivers

[crisp patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1104023011658563587.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=be_YAYYY

[cunning anvil]

but also: 3.9GHz of 3rd gen intel silicon

[crisp patrol]

XM processor?

or normal

[charred plank]

About switches? I'm going to straight up have to disagree. I would agree if he said don't obsess over just switches

[crisp patrol]

like 3920XM

[cunning anvil]

3940

XM

[charred plank]

But they play arguably the biggest role in sound goals

[cunning anvil]

literal highest tier

[boreal rivet]

No he’s right about you having a severe case of dunning kruger

[cunning anvil]

so high it kinda burns itself out if its left to its own devices

[crisp patrol]

baller

[prime mirage]

Same here

[cunning anvil]

i like the consistency/reliability of it as a linux platform, waiting for a better one to show up (framework!)

keep spending on keebs instead of saving tho lol

i hate having ideas

[charred plank]

I literally asked the guy what sound and feel he wanted...

Which should be general step number 1 for any hobby

Building a PC? What's the use

[boreal rivet]

Dont act as if that’s all you said lmao

[charred plank]

Buying headphones? What are you looking for in sound and do you want closed or open.

It kinda was

[boreal rivet]

Don’t get started with headphones either bruh

[charred plank]

Besides saying I don't agree with his advice

[crisp patrol]

yeah I love them in terms of build quality and linux experience but they are by NO means budget

[charred plank]

Overclocking? What's your cooler

[crisp patrol]

excluding the t480

[boreal rivet]

Not agreeing is one thing

[charred plank]

Any hobby that's step 1

[boreal rivet]

Giving stupid advice and rejecting others is another

[charred plank]

You ask for more info before giving advice

[charred plank]

Except I didn't even give advice

I literally just said I don't agree with his advice and asked the other guy what sound he wants and feel

[boreal rivet]

Why are you thinking in the context of that conversation?

Your past actions will catch up to you

[charred plank]

Where here did I give him advice...

[crisp patrol]

@cunning anvil I'm thinking about grabbing an IBM branded T60/61 to upgrade and turn into a baller XP laptop

upgraded display and a core 2 extreme probably

[boreal rivet]

Are you just going to omit everything you’ve said in the past and just point to this one screenshot

Do you think I’m stupid or something

Because it’s clear you’ve been doing this stuff for a while there

[cunning anvil]

t480 my beloved (usb ports broke)

[cunning anvil]

better run libreboot with no firmware if youre going that far

[crisp patrol]

I don't have an XP machine yet

[cunning anvil]

fair, stallman sucks anyways

[crisp patrol]

and I'm gonna be playing games on it for the most part

[cunning anvil]

i think t420 strikes my hobbyin mood and 480 hits my power mood

[crisp patrol]

mainly citybuilding so far

(openttd)

[cunning anvil]

also 2340usd for the framework i want

yike

[crisp patrol]

[cunning anvil]

ill check out their lil fella

i dont like gaming on the lap

idek why i configured 16

[crisp patrol]

I don't like frameworks because they're not special in terms of build quality

if anything they're kinda lacking

[cunning anvil]

yeah?

[charred plank]

I've never given advice on that server afaik...

[crisp patrol]

the only thing really special is the repairability

[cunning anvil]

idk if i really care about quality unless it literally fell apart in my hands

[crisp patrol]

I'm clumsy so I drop stuff

I like older business laptops because they will take a beating

no babying required

[cunning anvil]

yeah

pseries might be good

most i do is drop it from my bed (doesnt move)

[charred plank]

I literally went on it to ask for advice on which to get between 2 switches which nobody on the server helped with and went on to ask for advice on keycaps nobody wanted to give @boreal rivet

[cunning anvil]

but slong as im aware when im eepy

[crisp patrol]

p1 gen1 is a good buy iirc

if you can find a cheap 4k oled model

[charred plank]

Also had the whole server flip out over me saying you can epoxy a metal plate behind a board to add weight

Because they thought it was literally impossible

Which clearly it isn't

But nowhere in any of those did I give advice

@boreal rivet are you just confusing me with someone else?

[cunning anvil]

tbh im leaning towards either the smol framework (1kusd), like to support repairability

carbon x1 (idk what gen slong as it has usb c charging) to tide me over til then

or another 480

[charred plank]

@crisp patrol I have a pretty cool idea for my next board

[cunning anvil]

is it a tkl

[charred plank]

I'm going to get a lucky 65 purple and put my hand lubed china joy switches in then add these caps

Wunzkii PBT Keycaps 158 Keys Laser Keycaps DYE-Sub Custom Keycaps Cherry Profile for Cherry Gateron MX Switches Mechanical Keyboard US and UK Layouts (6.25U 7U Spacebar) https://a.co/d/bhU1Ro1

[cunning anvil]

actually framework seems to have a 680usd barebones option

13 inch one

i dont have any parts tho so hmm

could be a long project as opposed to a big splurge

[void belfry]

Weird one that probably isn't like the others posted here, but I found this in the spare equipment closet at work while cleaning up. Looks to be quite the relic.
not my finger gunk. have since cleaned it

Shame it's membrane, though :(

[crisp patrol]

unfortunately repairability won't get big again anymore

it'll stay a niche

[cunning anvil]

depressing

like thats sad

[crisp patrol]

yup

[crisp patrol]

🫥 frog mini build when

[cunning anvil]

anyways im still gonna get it, bare bones with modules is like, 800usd, might be a good pet project ig

[crisp patrol]

[cunning anvil]

might as well try i mean

at the very least, if not repairable, lemme fab my own!

[charred plank]

Nah, next goal after that build is going to be a decent mouse lol

[thick totem]

last part of my keyboard is ordered

long awaited

[crisp patrol]

couldn't be me

gonna try to get rid of some stuff

idk what yet

besides the nec blue oval board and cherry numpad

along with the rest of my alps

dunno if I wanna get rid of my SI board though

[cunning anvil]

nice

[boreal rivet]

I really need to get started restoring my 6085

[lost lodge]

Should I get the Ajazz AK820 max right now or wait for the AttackShark K86 to come in stock or wait for the black colored Ajazz AK870 Display

[boreal rivet]

You should buy a realforce instead

[cunning anvil]

is multi touch a must have

or is single touch with gestures enough

may have found a chip i like for my use but idk what the masses want

[crisp patrol]

what's the difference

smth just like a laptop trackpad with gestures would be great

[lost lodge]

me?

[boreal rivet]

yes

[cunning anvil]

no scroll or pinch gestures

maybe tap hold drag

[crisp patrol]

[cunning anvil]

whats an 1800%?

whys that a thing?

oh

nvm

now i wanna make one

[bitter oar]

compact full size

[cunning anvil]

https://www.adafruit.com/product/4484

:o

[crisp patrol]

seems pretty useful

[cunning anvil]

yeah adds to the list

[cunning anvil]

nah

too many pixels

[thick totem]

invisible keyboard

[charred plank]

Just bought lucky 65 purple

[charred plank]

gat yellow vs china joy on the same board in an area with matched gain

gat yellow is more high pitched

"but... but... but... switches don't affect sound "

[thick totem]

i've never heard that

ever

anywhere

scowering the internet

like a rat

[modest condor]

different materials will produce a different sound

and then there is also long poles

[charred plank]

Lots of factors in switches change the sound. The switches have their own gain from body size, friction and points of contact, spring damping, area of contact for bottom and top out, like you mentioned the material, spring force, etc

I just think it's dumb that people like to act as if switches don't affect sound

When they are probably the biggest factor in the direction your sound takes

As in if it's going to be thonky or deep or clicky etc

[charred plank]

You'll hear it a lot of you go to mech keys and ask for switch advice

It's a reddit take

In other words it's wrong

[modest condor]

mech keys is a normie server no?

[charred plank]

[charred plank]

Yep, it's a reddit server

The advice I see there is just downright terrible