peripherals

[crisp patrol]

comfortable angle and a minor adjustment in thumb placement

[bitter oar]

you’re using your preferences and your own definition of budget as the standard what people should buy

[dawn swan]

i just got some cheap shit XDA pbt set and it shined faster than an ABS set

[crisp patrol]

f75 shill

[dawn swan]

half the keys polished

[heavy folio]

this is the one objective answer about keyboards. It's ALL about preference, and assessing accordingly. It's why I picked the gateron clears.

[crisp patrol]

what dinky doesn't want people to know

always talks about his aliexpress pbt

[dawn swan]

id like a metal 100% set of XDA or similar non sculpted if there are any out there besides cheap zinc shit

[crisp patrol]

mx clears better

[heavy folio]

I love these switches, I don't even need to lube them, and they allow extremely rapid typing.

[heavy folio]

none available for $20 when I looked, and I'm perfectly happy with these

[bitter oar]

you consider $100 keyboards as a budget board, but most people consider it quite expensive for them. i’m not talking hobbyist, yes the budget is elsewhere there but generally. people don’t want to spend that much on a keyboard. and when they ask for a $50 keyboard why do you force suggest them $100 and have them to through agents

[dawn swan]

100 is budget for customs

[bitter oar]

instead of just giving them a reasonable $50 suggestion

or around that atleast

not double or nothing

[crisp patrol]

finding mx clears in one place consistently at a good price is less common than finding buried treasure :(

[bitter oar]

meh, you just don’t accept arguments. you always quit an arument when it goes deep.

[crisp patrol]

your arguments are repetitive and running around in circles

[crisp patrol]

metal aint allat

try a good POM set

[bitter oar]

yes, because ya don’t agree to and do the repetitive recommendations next day

[crisp patrol]

plastic is king

[crisp patrol]

realforce

[bitter oar]

I don’t think ya agreed to me once

during all the arguing

[dawn swan]

i dont care about the weight of the keycaps because I use 80-100g switches anyway

[heavy folio]

they...don't have to?

[crisp patrol]

why should I

[crisp patrol]

real shit

but still

metal is just meh imo

[heavy folio]

brother, fingers of steel. Mine are like 30g IIRC

[crisp patrol]

@patent belfry do yk any springs at or around 120g for mx?

[dawn swan]

i mostly type with 90% 3-4 fingers at 120-130 wpm that is why the weight is like that

[crisp patrol]

gonna make some clears even more peak

[dawn swan]

screwed up typing style

not using weaker fingers

[crisp patrol]

should see mine

my hands are all over my keeb

[dawn swan]

that is why i liked XDA more

[crisp patrol]

never learned right and ended up like this

[dawn swan]

or more flatter non sculpted styles of caps

fingers catch less when moving

[crisp patrol]

I prefer cherry/oem and minimal scoop

enough to feel like scoop but not absurd

[bitter oar]

because? my whole point of arguing with ya at this point isn’t about topre being bad. but rather recommending topre to people that can’t quite afford it

how many times do i have to say it?

[crisp patrol]

budget: $150
pro2 type s: $120+ship (<$30 possible)

[bitter oar]

ok.
what if my budget is $50
as an example

[heavy folio]

well, I think at a certain point you should just make your own recommendation and move on

[crisp patrol]

eat shit and save up more or go dell

[bitter oar]

…

[dawn swan]

50 dollars you are getting into membranes and china slop amazon brands/aliexpress

not high quality by any means

[crisp patrol]

epomaker

dinky's favorite

[bitter oar]

never said I like the company as it is don’t twist my statements
Epomaker literally at this point just puts their name on everything they can

and suing other companies unreasonably is nothing new

[heavy folio]

used boards are an option at that price, but you need to do your research. Hot swap is the most important factor, but looking up "hot swap keyboard" will skew the prices up above $60 even used

[dawn swan]

hot swap can have more issues than soldered in some cases

especially lower quality

breaking sockets or bad connections

[heavy folio]

true, but I planned to hot swap from the outset

[bitter oar]

I have tested hotswap sockets on the f75 pcb and they were solid af

[crisp patrol]

yet you act like you're in an intimate relationship with an epomaker rep

[dawn swan]

its better to just get a decent soldering iron and decent solder sucker and deal with it once in a great while when replacing a switch

[crisp patrol]

yeah we saw your shitty flex cuts too

[dawn swan]

only painful when doing a whole board

[crisp patrol]

f75

[bitter oar]

i’m not saying that every other chinese mx style board is bad. Just pick the good ones… that’s why reviews exist

[bitter oar]

your preference that you don’t like flex cuts.

there’s enough foam that it doesn’t have insane flex

also, you guys initially said that the gasket mounts barely do shit in flexing too. so, flex cuts amplify it

and now complain about flex cuts

[crisp patrol]

flex cuts are cope

[bitter oar]

what’s so wrong about flex cuts.

[dawn swan]

what is the point isnt it just to 'reduce fatigue' or whatever from bottoming out

[crisp patrol]

yeah some dumb shit like that

[dawn swan]

i bottom out my switches almost 100% of the time when typing and have not had finger pain or anything

[crisp patrol]

useless though

[dawn swan]

and they are heavy

[crisp patrol]

^^^^^

same

[bitter oar]

then, there pikc a board without flex cuts, they’re even cheaper than $30

[crisp patrol]

I mash hard sometimes when I transition from my heavy board to my light board

[dawn swan]

the only time my fingers ever got slightly sore was spamming keys with pinky/ring finger on games for hours and i mean like 3-4 hours without a break

[bitter oar]

I don’t think the use of flex cuts is to actually reduce finger pain or fatigue

but they feel slighly softer.

when they bottom out it’s feels softer

then just get a board without flex cuts, they’re even cheaper.

[crisp patrol]

and you people complain about silent switches being mushy

[dawn swan]

flex cuts id think would cause pretty bad inconsistency between how much each part of the board flexes

[bitter oar]

sounding mushy*
and no, they don’t feel mushy. iirc there is one or two akko boards that have insane amount of “gasket performance” and the board just feel garbage

and it looks bad also

[dawn swan]

next someone is going to make a waterbed keyboard

with a ribbon pcb

[crisp patrol]

no mushy sound here buddy old pal

[bitter oar]

cherry mx silents are incredibly scratchy from my experience, silvers are on the another level if you meant that, they’re not mushy, also depends on the keycaps used

[crisp patrol]

albs noods

[bitter oar]

I was referring to some topre boards sounding mushy

mx styles aren’t usually mushy. that’d be job of the stabs

they’re not…

unsure if i can agree with that, what was the last mx silent you used?

must have been heavily overlubed or some real crap

[cunning anvil]

choc silents

[crisp patrol]

dinky says something correct for once?!?!!??!!?!21!?1? 😱😱😱😱

[bitter oar]

didn’t i say that from the beginning?

feeling wise, they’re not.

they’re special feeling, hard to describe them.

i think i also stated that before

[cunning anvil]

20g or 35g choc silents

homerow mods tho

i guess i could do bottom row vs others

my next board is gonna be like 4x6 modules stringed together

so like 4x18/24

might turn the last one sideways

dunno how many i wanna buy

[bitter oar]

again, If it was worth it for you. I don’t have any issue with that.
But, if someone asks for a $50 keyboard give them the best suggestion you can. Again… not just topre or nothing…

[cunning anvil]

worried it might be a risk since theyre the first silent chocs

haha i could

the issue is i dont got much case design knowhow

[bitter oar]

how do you know they want to spend few days-weeks to snipe a topre board off china for $50

[cunning anvil]

ig i could just make stuff for like gh80 or whatever it was

[bitter oar]

not for $50

link?

[cunning anvil]

https://lowprokb.ca/products/ambients-silent-choc-switches?variant=44873446391972

bruh that price

[bitter oar]

sounds too good to be true or exaggerating, but if it’s true i’m buying

can you send me a link @patent belfry

[cunning anvil]

i wanna make a fullsize and see how cheap i can make it

i mean case would probably be something hella sketch

like

"plateless pcb with rubber bumpers"

just raw dawg it

ye

[bitter oar]

I mean dotter has corrected me few times in tc1/2 when I was wrong iirc, he is nice and reasonable unlike you guys..

[cunning anvil]

i wonder how much itd be to mill an acrylic case

or if itd be cheaper to just print

[crisp patrol]

imagine custom chiclet

[cunning anvil]

worried about warping

[crisp patrol]

prolly

[cunning anvil]

i dont remember this i havent touched tc in like forever lol

[bitter oar]

what kind of response do you expect when you respond so cringed when someone’s wrong

[cunning anvil]

have you seen the from scratch hall effect switches?

idk if its in a board or what

[bitter oar]

you can achieve the same thing without shitting on someone’s head

[cunning anvil]

https://github.com/famichu/MagLev_Switch_MX

wait you can lube optical? doesnt it uhh

block the light or something

gorcha

[crisp patrol]

nope

[crisp patrol]

p sick

[cunning anvil]

@crisp patrol this one

lol

[crisp patrol]

@cunning anvil alps stem lp cherry switches

[bitter oar]

well, can you send me the link now…

you said $50 for a topre board so, I take you by your word

and tha they’re everywhere in jp

[crisp patrol]

buyee.jp

[bitter oar]

you said $50.

[crisp patrol]

look for yourself

[bitter oar]

didn’t find.

I already checked

“look for yourself” is no longer an argument

really hiding behing saying the price wrongly

[crisp patrol]

91u

[bitter oar]

just send me the link

cheapest I found is $80

[cunning anvil]

i think that expecting the type that want a budget keyboard to use a used topre from another country is a bit strange, and expecting them to be able to navigate the buying process is rough

[bitter oar]

you said 50.

altough you didn’t specify, that likely doesn’t include the shipping

aswell

[cunning anvil]

whats mentioning what?

[bitter oar]

where did I say $500? another exaggeration? I said $300

yes you do

[crisp patrol]

cad

pretty sure dinky is talking usd

[cunning anvil]

i think you could also broaden horizons towards the lowpro or ergo or ortho scenes, which topre would have a significantly looser hold on.

i guess personally i wish topre wasnt simped for as hard as it is here as it were in favor of neat layouts or compactness lol

[bitter oar]

why i’d use cad for no reason

[crisp patrol]

☝️

[crisp patrol]

dude forgot to use grammar

[bitter oar]

524 cad is like 400 usd

[crisp patrol]

isn't that just chiclet

[cunning anvil]

im no EE :c

[bitter oar]

grammar jokes aside.

[cunning anvil]

not a joke, a nitpick. (this itself is also a nitpick, which is the joke)

[bitter oar]

how a’m supposted to know you used cad instead of usd

[crisp patrol]

grammer*

[crisp patrol]

1: he's canadian
2: the price is too high

[bitter oar]

yes, but generally when you said $500 you mean usd and not cad.
unless you explicitly say

cad

$500 defaultly means us dollars

[cunning anvil]

24 keys per module, gonna be using something like 48-96 keys, wondering how many silent chocs i should actually buy, shits expensive

[crisp patrol]

defaultly

[bitter oar]

yes, i know that’s not correct, can you stop?

this server ain’t canadian

ask for a $500 build in tc/tc2 or anywhere they auto assume you mean usd.

erm

then say ca$ or cad

I can’t read your mind thoccy boi

and like 65% of worldwide banks use usd

and not cad

cad isn’t even 1%

[crisp patrol]

unless you live there

[bitter oar]

transactions in usd

usd is the epicentre of currencies.

bro if you say 100 in this server people assume usd not cad or different currencies lol?

that’s not dead logic

go by the server and not according to you

I was talking in usd the whole time and not in venezuelan bolivars

for example

I could’ve been talking in any currency if i say just “200”

canada is America though?

just not united states

America is a continent no?

well, it depends on. you can technically be considered American if you still live on the continent of America no? correct me if i’m wrong

[crisp patrol]

are you a child

american = us resident

canadian = canada resident

[bitter oar]

america is a continent though, you can be technically called canadian/ canadian resident and american at the same time though no?

[modest condor]

North America

[bitter oar]

just not us resident definitely

[modest condor]

America = United States

[bitter oar]

anyways, when people say 500 you assume usd and not cad in this server.

[modest condor]

North America is a continent

[bitter oar]

and Americas is the whole continent of well, NA + SA

[bitter oar]

both those are separate

without the s

remove the fucking north and you have america lol

it’s still america, there are only two american continents, if you want to call it as a whole they’re americas

if you say canada do you have to be that specific to say the north part?

both are north technically, so, now we shall call usa northern united states of america or whut

were not in a important meetup where we have to say everything without zero vagueness?

canada is part of north america

no?

how do you say when you’re resident of the americas then?

you should wake up then

which is part of americas, so, you’re technically american. that’s not an insult whatsoever

[modest condor]

no...

American would mean hes from the US

[bitter oar]

well, then how do you say you’re resident of the americas?

[modest condor]

what do u mean by americas

[bitter oar]

continents.

[modest condor]

NA

[bitter oar]

• SA

yes, i know that

but americas are both NA + SA

[modest condor]

why would u say ur from Americas tho?

u would specify what part by saying NA or SA

[bitter oar]

If you say you’re from america you can literally mean the whole both of continents no?

[modest condor]

no

if u say ur from America , ur saying ur from the US

[bitter oar]

had to login after months… response of chatgpt

@modest condor

wym

chatgpt can answer simple questions well

till you give him something advanced then it becomes absolute dumpster

anyways, I wasn’t one to use the term american wrong

it literally means for all residents within the americas both NA and SA not just usa

another unacknowledged argument, you didn’t even say “sorry” after calling me what?
i’m tripping or did you just delete the message

damn dude

just like the time you sent me the link to the server, just to get me banned there?

you’re a fucking liar

you don’t know???

the convo we had got me banned for “misinformation”

lol what

I don’t think I ever talked to anyone else so why you guys banned me for misinfo

and you also deleted the link to the server you sent me and his registed said you didn’t so, you somehow bypassed it

literal liar

you said you never sent anything

I didn’t even realize what a rat are you

also, I have some suspicion you guys also set up an extension for discord, whenever I said F75 jonna came and argued how shitty it is. either a coincidence/ he’s really active or some extension which is agaisn’t the ToS

but, obviously I don’t have a proof so

I have no way of finding out if he has some extension or not, unless he admits on it or sends a screenshot…

anyways, it does raise suspicion

how’s that relevant?

I don’t have the need to use extensions, Some servers also ban people if they find out.

I don’t need nitro either

oh, forgot this exists, shite

how old is that version though? didn’t it have a reskin if i recall correctly

just to argue?

[cunning anvil]

wussat

[crisp patrol]

lmao

[bitter oar]

i’ll just say f-75

[crisp patrol]

basically betterdiscord but doesn't crash all the time

[cunning anvil]

is that technically okay tos wise? i saw what happened to gtkcord/tuicord

[bitter oar]

isn’t that an extension

[cunning anvil]

i think its a client

oh nvm

[modest condor]

pretty sure its against TOS

[bitter oar]

yeah, I think too

[cunning anvil]

Will I get banned for using Vencord? Will plugin X get me banned?

Client modifications are against Discord’s Terms of Service.

from their own faq :c

[bitter oar]

anything that modifies the discord client outside discord themself is definitely agaisnt tos

[cunning anvil]

amoled webcord when

[bitter oar]

I have seen people getting banned for betterdiscord on this server

[crisp patrol]

usually they only focus on people using shit like deletedmsglogger

[bitter oar]

I think they have been less strict about that since then but still, i’d not freely say “I use betterdiscord” or such

[crisp patrol]

just themes they seem to not give a shit

[bitter oar]

also, what’s up with everyone using betterdiscord

what’s so awesome about it

[cunning anvil]

never know, aint riskin

[crisp patrol]

custom themes and qol plugins

[bitter oar]

don’t care + don’t care personally

[cunning anvil]

i have peeps i only know through discord these days, would be sad to miss em

[crisp patrol]

setting up multiple methods of contact is a good idea

[crisp patrol]

you asked

[bitter oar]

that was not “I don’t care” that was an answer

[cunning anvil]

ya but like, for every little friend?

so much effort

[bitter oar]

I don’t care about either themes nor plugins for discord
Aslong i can use dark mode I don’t care

[crisp patrol]

how could you not love it

[cunning anvil]

i like flat colors, im boring

skype

looks like an old media player

[bitter oar]

I have discord mostly open in small window, not fully screen. I don’t need all of those features

[crisp patrol]

most older themes were sort of skueomorphic

[cunning anvil]

idk what that means :D

[bitter oar]

oled user ^
or has retention issue

you should rma your monitor

I don’t get burn ins or retention because I daily drive an LCD

retention can be an issue on LCD if it’s faulty

so, retention

you should return your monitor it’s broken

yes, you shouldn’t have retention, return your monitor.

for a repair

you said this so I assumed??

uh, and what happened to the g9 oled?

oh, you didn’t like the curve, understandable

1000R is too much

iirc that’s of the g9

or?

does your wife need such panel? I mean the g9 oled is awesome

why would you replace it with a midrange VA panel

oh

oh, which model

I thought for a second you replaced it with one of the cheap 1440p 165hz VA acer panels

isn’t wqhd just qhd which is 1440p

sec

well, unsure about color accuracy of that panel

can’t find a decent review, but mostly newer monitors have better color accuracy than from 3 years (on avg)

so, oversaturated. I assume it’s set for dci-p3 target

but, if you enjoy it

well, srgb looks washed out for me altough it is accurate

I like bit oversaturated content so,

it really depends how well the monitor can display certain targets

so, about gigabyte M series price

I would say the price is ok, it’s not overpriced

M-U i meant

they have been reviewed properly and they’re accurate

relatively accurate*

yeah, M28U isn’t in a good price rn

but it’s usually $500

check pcpp history

may be even lower

well, I assume you want matching monitors

same

oh, is this in cad?

and the m28u also

do you know which panel manufactuner the acer one you bought uses?

I couldn’t find it

AUO and samsung are fairly common, lg electronic, etc.

nice

msi has really good ips panels they use AU O panel for most of their monitors

if it’s ips chance it’s au o is high

yeah, from all the non dimzone backlit panels, auo makes the best ips

budget panels

nano ips has poor contrast and samsung panels usually VA have poor motion clarity

the acer one?

likely one of the better samsung panels

samsung has two tiers of VA panels

good motion clarity, low ghosting

and then absolute garbage

like the G5 and G3

you’ll see some not so nice clarity if you scroll through white text on black

though, that’s just nitpicking

On my desk currently I have innocn 27g1s

flat VA panel 240hz

yeah, those are all fine.
btw, when you said you this, does this happen to you? with any of your monitors

alr

understandable

but retention is a thing and I had it on couple of my monitors

including my nano ips 27gp850

lol

microled or just O LED is said to not have burn-in issues

end game panel technology basicly imo

once manufactuners get to make them

so far there have been issues clearly

and first consumer grade micro led monitors will likely cost $3000

but that’s just speculation

oled wasn’t cheap when it came

retro gaming?

nice

anyways, if you don’t mind getting 28” or 27” panel with your acer 4k these are decent, if not the acer one should be good aswell (that you’re buying again)

unsure about the ips odyssey G70B tho

[fierce holly]

IPs type panel give very good quality color stuff

[bitter oar]

on average yes, but does not mean for all

msi tends to oversaturate their panels @ stock

I don’t think they provide decent srgb mode for most of their panels

but, some people may like it so…

[fierce holly]

Hmmm

[bitter oar]

depends on which color space they target

[fierce holly]

Maybe test that if not good then refund ;D

[bitter oar]

I don’t have testing tools

[fierce holly]

Hmmm 🤔

It made only difficult which one are better

[bitter oar]

it really depends on what you need

if you just game, the msi panels are perfect

• movies

good black levels (for an ips), great response and basicly zero overshoot and ghosting handling, though the white uniformity from all the units from auo i’ve had so far was below average, parts where the panels were tinted blue and yellow usually was consistent issue with mine, Samsung and Lg nano ips have done better job at white uniformity qc.

but, white uniformity really varies unit to unit

but mine were consistently blue tinted on the left side of the panel and green+red (yellow) tinted on the right

but, those are basicly my only complaints

[fierce holly]

Aren’t oled the best of one ?

[bitter oar]

yes, oled is top

[fierce holly]

And slowest too

:/

[bitter oar]

wym slowest

[fierce holly]

Wym?

[bitter oar]

what do you mean slowest

[fierce holly]

Oled take respond time longer I hear

[modest condor]

oled is fast as fuck

[bitter oar]

oled is the fastest*

no crt is*

[fierce holly]

Are guys seriously ?

not joke right ?

[bitter oar]

for gtg

[bitter oar]

I mean… you can check yourself. oleds have gtg of 0.3ms~

[fierce holly]

Time to find oled monitor pc xd

Don’t have oled want to says

;/

[bitter oar]

crt just shoots fast moving beam

and light has basicly no delay

[fierce holly]

I kinda shock to hear that oled are fast

What about durable are less ?

Is it true ?

[bitter oar]

lcd uses spinning crystals to change intensitivy of sub pixels, which takes times

light on the otherhand is near instant

[bitter oar]

burn in if you mean that

[fierce holly]

Like light on screen durable

[bitter oar]

what light

[fierce holly]

That light on monitor appear without light u won’t see anything that what I mean

[bitter oar]

uh, sorry but I don’t understand

anyways, crt just shots beam, every extra hz means how many times a second the beam will cycle to shoot the screen again (the beam moving iirc vertically from up to down and then resets and cycle continues), lcd is just spinning crystals and oled are organic leds, the gtg is just how long the leds take to turn on/off for oleds)

[bitter oar]

do you mean backbleed?

like you have your monitor plugged in and on full screen pitch black and you see white edges

that happens when the backlight light manages to escape from the layer where it’s supposted to be, that’s why it’s called backbleed, it looks like bleed and it’s also likely cause by partial separation of the other layers where the light can escape to

or do you mean something else

[modest condor]

perhaps light reflection?

like matte vs glossy

idk

[bitter oar]

yeah, I don’t know what he means

[fierce holly]

Never mind pff

[bitter oar]

me?

[crisp patrol]

ips is the slowest afaik

out of the major ones

tn, va, oled, and ips

[graceful rock]

how did we go from keyboards to displays

[bitter oar]

Yes.

[fierce holly]

Aren’t IPs give good quality then tn va

[bitter oar]

model to model.
even IPS panel can really suck compared to a good VA panel

and TN well, just no

[spice sun]

there are some good tn panels

for example the benq zowie line up

[crisp patrol]

not worth imo

if you're gonna obsess about motion clarity buy a ulmb2 monitor

[spice sun]

def isnt unless ur a harstuck tryhard

[crisp patrol]

overrated asf

ulmb2 literally miles better

[heavy folio]

I would highly recommend a good keyboard for people who code as a hobby or professionally. This thing has made it just more pleasant to do.

"good" = one you enjoy typing on

some people (somehow) enjoy blues membranes boards

All my blue hate is in jest. I do hate them, subjectively I find them obnoxious. I have 104 jailhouse modded blues so even if I use them I never have to hear them.

learned the hard way.

I didn't waste any orings though

I used waste packing foam

that board died

it was not the foam

it was the gear oil I used on the board I didn't think worked or was hot swap

petrolium

wrecked it

It was transmission lubricant

very ded

I knew what could happen when I did it, and well, worst case scenario

phillips g400

I got it for $15 with my first PC

it was in bad shape already

beat up, very dirty, malfunctioning, missing keycaps

the finish on the baseplate was nice, and I didn't mind white only lighting

the one that comes up one you search it is 100% a newer model

mine is an SPK8401B

which you can still buy...for 2.5x what I paid

that one looks better imo

although part of me wants to get a g400 again to treat her right

nice

I have too little money to buy extra keycaps or another board at the moment

unless I postpone the rtx 3080 16gb for my Clevo p870tm

which I do not want to do

this is an mxm

from a 1080

clevo make the only 30 series mxm boards

laptop GPU standard which Nvidia (allegedly) killed

This is one of the very, very few laptops yoiu can actually upgrade the GPU

no, that's a performance spec

MAX-Q means minimized thermal output

I paid $725 for this, and it has a desktop grade 1080, but it was only 2 years ago

2016

[crisp patrol]

they're literally worse than their competitors sometimes too

ulmb2 monitors endgame

[heavy folio]

I re-assessed the finances and bought these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CS34DTLF/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

they look nice, and those rounded edges should feel nice.

[heavy folio]

also double shot PBT so they won't wear down. I don't know what this keyboards caps are made of

[crisp patrol]

pre yellowed

[late ridge]

Plouffe & crew got me jaaaaaaaacked up way deeper into keyboards than I ever imagined even existed

[sonic cape]

don't get

too absorbed

it's an expensive rabbit hole

[civic lily]

lekker switches sound so nice ngl

i have the cyan lekkers

[spiral steppe]

holy crap.
i was searched about some decorative key-caps, and i found some absolutely awesome key-caps.
things like these:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1236329072/torii-gate-artisan-keycap-japanese?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=glass+keycap&ref=sr_gallery-1-6&pro=1&content_source=eb10fae3a3a8623122e0cc2439a1352e9d8fb28d%253A1236329072&organic_search_click=1

i might want to fill up a whole keyboard with different designs like these, but the only problem is, that these kind of key-caps are really expensive...

so it might will take a while to fill up a whole keyboard with these...

[spiral mica]

buy colored titanium keycaps

[crimson pike]

I'm calling out all keyboard nerds!
I'm looking for a keyboard that are as near as Keytronic KT-2001 as possible. Though it doesn't have to use rubber domes. I can take modern switches.

Topre Realforce was a nice replacement but even that were discontinued.

I've searched forums and stuff but not easy to find. One requirement is that the layout needs to be Nordic/Swedish and that make the chances to find something less possible

[spiral mica]

topre isn't discontinued

[crimson pike]

I'm also thinking of replacing my office keyboard from a Logitech a standard wireless with a wireless mouse. Thinking of Keychron K10 Pro. Red switches i think. The other alternative is Brown. And also ABS or ABP shine through or not shine through

[crimson pike]

That is true, but they doesn't make any with Nordic layout

[hexed flume]

Videos with these keep popping up in my youtube recommendations.

[crimson pike]

https://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/swedish-finnish-topre-realforce-105ub-gold-on-black-keyboard.asp

That had been nice!

[hexed flume]

Does anyone know if there's a hall effect keyboard with Gateron Jade switches pre-installed? Preferably in 90-96% configuration.

[crimson pike]

Would it be worth to buy keychron switch tester in my case? Kind of expensive the big one that are the only one available. Everyone else out of stock and has been for a decade.

Or would the red switches that are included in the K10 Pro suits most people?

[crisp patrol]

less cool than steel because I bet it's 6al4v aka bendy ti

pure is best

[timber wolf]

Is ajazz keyboard any good?

[timber wolf]

Well, there is also ajazz mouse...

There is a forum that i find a lot of ajazz haters, donno why

They said it is very not good

But i felt like some of them are trying to sell others brand, because they have a online store

[bitter oar]

Worst size tbh

Imo

No function keys and it's wider than 75%

[drifting mauve]

but for me it would be perfect

thats the beuty of building your own keyboard

[bitter oar]

y

[boreal rivet]

this is just a 68

[drifting mauve]

Also the keycaps I want to use don't have with a short right shift

a standard 65 or 68 wouldn't work

[bitter oar]

70% keyboards

[boreal rivet]

that is quite literally just a standard 68% layout

[drifting mauve]

I just realized your right

but on the candykeys website its listed as a 65 for some reason :P

[bitter oar]

;-;

[bitter oar]

Well, functionally they're just 65% with cutdown looking tkl size

[drifting mauve]

I think they probably call it a 65 becoase the home row at the bottom is 1.5u
Where as on most 68's like this one they are 1u.. and there are more of them

Its funny how some 68's are a little smaller than 65's and vice versa

[modest condor]

candykeys

[bitter oar]

68's are usually 1u< wider than 65's excluding bezzels

[modest condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/711913720158093362/1078067612992426024/Where_is_my_order_David_ck.gif

[drifting mauve]

I aint gonna buy candykeys I'm just looking for literally any compact board with a full size right shift key

I feel like you see the short one everywhere nowadays

There is no escaping it

I thought people hated the short right shift

and avoided it at all costs if possible

[bitter oar]

I'm fine with it

[drifting mauve]

but no one does that anymore

I blame the popularity of hhkb

love hhkb tho 🤍

But how come it seems like in the last few months or so everyone is ditching 60% for 65
You see 65 everywhere but 60 is fading into obscurity

[hexed flume]

Does anyone know if there's a hall effect keyboard with Gateron Jade switches pre-installed? Preferably in 90-96% configuration.

[crisp patrol]

lmao

[crisp patrol]

idk why people are picking the worse layouts

60% -> 65%
tkl -> 75%

[crimson pike]

Nice, but lacks windows key etc..

[crimson pike]

I like the purple color!

[drifting mauve]

win-keyless yippy! :D > ugly windows key 🤮

[bitter oar]

Arrow keys, 65% is 1u thiccer than 60%. Not everyone neccessarily needs full right shift, extra keys

75% is just that but with function row

And tkl takes more desk space than 75%

[crisp patrol]

75 worse f row hhkb

[heavy folio]

$75 all in is really good for what I have here. I also had to buy a USB c cable for it because it didn't come with one, and light switches prevent the only expensive upgrade I want (ceramic or steel keycaps)

You can get something pretty good for cheap if you are willing to put in some research.

[regal breach]

Win keys are 🤮 . Change my mind.

In other news....

My mother discovered keycap sets.

[crisp patrol]

hhkb bottom row > wkl though

[regal breach]

I actually can stand HHKB because the Caps key is nearly nuked from orbit.

Caps Lock was a mistake.

[modest condor]

i dont have caps lock on any of my boards

[regal breach]

[modest condor]

control belongs on R3

[regal breach]

I need Escape to be on the home row, so I disagree.

This is my current layout. Works well for me. 🙂

O

M

G

I might have to switch to HHKB.

I can delete mouse.

[modest condor]

yuck

studio

[regal breach]

I mean, for you sure, but I've used ThinkPads my entire life, so this is a beauty of a keyboard.

[modest condor]

it should have been topre

[fierce holly]

do ayone know the good brand keyboard ?

for gaming ?

[regal breach]

Define "Good".

Do you mean good price? Good performance? Good balance of the two?

[fierce holly]

the two mean both of em ?

[regal breach]

Yes.

Middleground.

[fierce holly]

i have no really much experience about keyboard so what u mean about good performance ?

[modest condor]

do u have a budget?

[regal breach]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[fierce holly]

hmm

250$ max

[modest condor]

just get a wooting

[regal breach]

This.

[fierce holly]

is keyboard expensive ?

XD

[modest condor]

https://wooting.io/wooting-60he

[fierce holly]

i never hear that keyboard before

XD

[regal breach]

If you're budget is $250 and you're concerned about JUST gaming, go Wooting.

If you care about other aspects of a keyboard, you might want to consider other options.

[modest condor]

^

[fierce holly]

hmm oke

Built for performance
You need the fastest possible input delivered consistently without fail. Not just eye-blinding RGB and dissuasive promises. This is how we deliver you the fastest possible input. so that what performance mean XD

kk XWD

[regal breach]

Like, if you care about the smoothness of travel, the sound they keyboard makes (or lack thereof) and whether or not what kind of switch you prefer (Linear, Tactile, or (if you're anti-social; like myself) Clicky).

[fierce holly]

got that

[modest condor]

what clicky

click bar?

[regal breach]

You think I'd still be sane using a Click Jacket?

[fierce holly]

looks like wooting is fast respond

[modest condor]

[crisp patrol]

no

[spiral steppe]

this might sound cruel, but when i order a product, i don't care about the morals, and the story behind it.
i only care about two things: price and quality.

...
btw. since you ordered one of these, how was that ?
its quality just like in the pictures ?

[boreal rivet]

King of being wrong

[boreal rivet]

Dang that is quite an occasion

[late ridge]

Nic Plouffe & HipyoTech encouraged ruinous bank account behavior in me this month — whoops

Aaaaaaand, I was right now years old when I got the joke of that YT channel name

[boreal rivet]

you aren't going to get any validation by posting the same thing a second time bud

[spice sun]

so valid

[torpid fable]

New keycaps, from the short experience I’ve had with them I love xda profile

[humble ledge]

Redragon is a good brand ?

[bitter oar]

unless you can get them dirt cheap no

[crisp patrol]

hipyo

you know what isn't hot asshole

good youtubers

[heavy folio]

after amazon decided to wait three days to even ship them, I bought the same set of key caps from aliexpress for about 30% off (34 to 22)

they're just key caps, and if I have to wait I might as well pay less.

[late ridge]

Let us know when you figure out how to quantify the correctness of someone’s OPINION. Relax.

Also, go ahead and link us to your BETTER YouTube channel with the more comprehensive coverage you mention. I’m sure it’s fantastic and I’d love to subscribe.

[proper hazel]

chyrosan22, markerchun, jymv

cipulot lol

[late ridge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[humble ledge]

I need a 50 euro keyboard and I don't what brand or keyboard to go for this price

between 60% to 70%

I don't care but for this price I think that we can't get hot swapple and I wanted this with keyboard https://redragonshop.com/products/traric-k634-pro?variant=44885917040862

and what is qmk/vial/ programmability ?

[crisp patrol]

chyro is like ltt imho

occasional good advice/taste but shouldn't be taken seriously

and be treated like entertainment

his take on waxboiling alps was completely wrong

he is definitely miles better than hipyo, nic, and other brainrot youtubers though

[humble ledge]

I prefere between 60% and 70%

[bitter oar]

70% or 75%?

[humble ledge]

You choose what you like

[bitter oar]

this is 70%

~

[crisp patrol]

god awful

[humble ledge]

wierd layout

[bitter oar]

yes

[humble ledge]

what is qmk or via

I just want to have a mecanical keyboard for 50 euro between 60% and 70%

the thing that is pretty sad that with taxe and delivery the price come to 72 euro

I just need to build the keyboard there is no need to solder them ?

Ok thank you for your help

and where can I buy those ?

ok

[late ridge]

Mad? About keyboards? 😅

[cunning anvil]

theyve got a yt? :o

[crisp patrol]

yeah iirc it's a lot of in depth stuff on design

really neat

[boreal rivet]

not everything is an opinion dumbass

there are things known as facts

[hollow wagon]

Calling an LMG employee a "hot asshole" on the LMG discord is uh....a take.

[sonic cape]

he doesnt have any manners

lol

[sonic cape]

reddit warrior

who ?

is that ?

ah

i dont even have reddit

hahaha

mustve left my account logged in somewhere

who

is that

🤣🤣

thx for letting me know

no idea who dat iss

[cunning anvil]

kinda funny theyre into keyboards to

lucky break

[sonic cape]

maybe its my brother

i have no idea

hes into keebs aswell

[cunning anvil]

sure

[boreal rivet]

Weren’t you that dude who’s a Reddit mod

[hexed flume]

Wish they'd release options with jade switches by default already...

[boreal rivet]

oh nvm that was pignity

[boreal rivet]

no matter

[spiral mica]

bruh

just saying I am not a reddit mod

idk why it says that

[modest condor]

lol

[sonic cape]

bro I dont have reddit

what cant u understand

xD

probably my brother flexing on other people, no idea

you really have nothing better to do than being on this discord channel all day and behaving like an idiot lol

but yes that is my keyboard

[cunning anvil]

why would he flex your keyboard what a weirdo

get yo own

[sonic cape]

because

he

has

a rk61

and a ducky one 2 mini

he´s 13 bro

what do I know, i flex w my dad´s car xD

[cunning anvil]

yeah but he stole ur pic wtf

[sonic cape]

yes

because

I sent it

to him

and my friends

i´d burry myself alive

if i would be forced to create a reddit account

[sonic cape]

sad

[dusty remnant]

anyways... anyone near KC should come to the meetup on may 18th!

[boreal rivet]

yes your 13 yo brother who uses a reddit account that you linked to your discord account posts on various rep and taobao proxy subreddits also flexes his cupra hybrid suv (LOL)

anyone with a brain can tell it's your account lil bro

nothing wrong with having a reddit account either

you denying it like this makes you look far more pathetic LOL

[crisp patrol]

fr

reddit is great

[civic quartz]

looking for a good gaming keyboard

i am torn between the razer blackwidow v4 75% and the Asus Azoth

thoughts?

[sonic cape]

well if you want to believe it please do 🙂

but you're trying to prove some out of the ass argument on a discord channel, only pathethic thing is this whole desperate act you're doing 🤣

[boreal rivet]

🪞

[bitter oar]

Both are very overpriced

[sullen grove]

Very overpriced

U can get a wayy better sounding keyboard for hald the price

Look at the eponaker rt100

[boreal rivet]

Realforce is better

[bitter oar]

Likely not for what he intends to use the keyboard

If you don't care about sound, n' little feel then hall effect goes into mind

[boreal rivet]

yes it is

https://www.realforce.co.jp/en/products/series_gaming_gx1.html

[bitter oar]

mmm?

Anyways, chinesium lubes have arrived 6020A and 6504 dielectric'ish lube

[civic quartz]

I dont know much about keyboards, but do these have the same low-latency of the razer/asus one?

i like that the asus one is wireless too

[bitter oar]

they are within 10ms

the lubes from aliexpress are pretty decent actually

i’ll put them on cup lids and tell you guys if it dries up

both the 6020a and 6504

[bitter oar]

F75, Leobog reaper, Leobog stock stabs, 6.25U XDA keycap 2mm~, 6504 on wire, 6020A on stems, housing lubed lighty-moderate. It's less pingy in person

No rattle or ticking at all

The switch is little scratchy when I put ear next to it but it does not affect feel

Pretty good lube for the price but i'd probably still use krytox or trybosis. For the price can't complain $1 per 10g or $0.60 per 3g bag including shipping

I'd say krytox adds some friction when lubing stabs - stems, housings and makes them bit more honey'ish, thiccer feeling but the difference is minor. Just how quickly the stuff dries up is the question

I'd say the 6020A is somewhat inbetween gpl205g0 and gpl205g2 but bit more clingy and holds together ever so slighly more

[crisp patrol]

why would he if he has the money for double that

[civic quartz]

well if I could get a similar/better keyboard for half of the price, of course i would go with that

like I mentioned, I am a complete keyboard noob. I know very little about keyboards, so I just assumed going with the mainstream brands like Asus, Logitech, Razer, ect. was the better route for me

I do currently have a razer blackwidow v2 that I got like 8 years ago at this point

[bitter oar]

?

are you trying to spark up another argument?
where did I say “no”

and it ends up with you “leave me alone”

if you actually want me to leave you then don’t literally try to spark up another half hour session of arguing

no* you should leave ME alone

[cunning anvil]

hi

[torpid fable]

I think I did I decent job on the stabs with the holyee mod

[sonic cape]

spacebar

sounds a bit mushy

[torpid fable]

I thought so too but after checking before & after that's just the thuddy sounds that the resin makes

[bitter oar]

hi

[sonic cape]

oh

true

resin does makes a thudd

[torpid fable]

Very thud

[bitter oar]

which switches?

[torpid fable]

Ws Morandi

But thinking of switching em with some gaterone cream sodas

slightly deeper & poppy

[modest condor]

it looks mushy

[arctic shuttle]

Chat why is my keyboard pinging

[arctic shuttle]

Hello

Whenever I get fed up again

Nothing wants to sell

[cunning anvil]

need to design a case bleh

forgot to include screw/mount holes so its gotta be plate

hmm, i wonder if could just use bumpers and no plate, raw that pcb

[crisp patrol]

plateless is aight

[cunning anvil]

but its also caseless

bumpers on table idk how itll be

[crisp patrol]

hm

[cunning anvil]

would this be funnier with or without the knobs

top row is mostly components aside from the encoders

[chilly perch]

tf does shift register mean

like the integrated circuit component?

[cunning anvil]

yes

oh this is much funnier

[crisp patrol]

one knob and esc moved to where the enc is

[cunning anvil]

nah theres an escape on row....

asdf

[crisp patrol]

make it fn

[cunning anvil]

fn for what lol

fkeys already there

also putting a spacebar on top is really funny

(i want artisans

too bad spacebars are all bad

[crisp patrol]

prtsc, del, etc

[cunning anvil]

ig, but then id have to get custom legends

this is mostly my endgame board i wanna make look funny

[crisp patrol]

just remember

[crisp patrol]

10u spacebar on top

[cunning anvil]

tis 12u

unless you mean like

[crisp patrol]

it already is?

[crisp patrol]

[cunning anvil]

ig 10u spacebars are technically easier to find than 12

but i wanna do a standard artisan size

hunting down a 10u only for it to be something plain is bleh

[crisp patrol]

there's 12u artisans?

[cunning anvil]

are there?

idek

[crisp patrol]

probably not

[cunning anvil]

damn

[crisp patrol]

more 10u than 12u no doubt

[cunning anvil]

and more 7/6.25 than 10

i think showcasing components would be nice

[cunning anvil]

i love this one rn

[cunning anvil]

i feel like adding a nav/numpad would be nice

but detracts from the tol

sad

aha

i wonder if

oh no

[crisp patrol]

nope

[crisp patrol]

hell nah

[cunning anvil]

someone suggested an iso enter

i think its gonna detract from it

but also

[crisp patrol]

bigass iso

[cunning anvil]

this without a 2u enter is rough

do most kits have a 1u numpad 0?

[crisp patrol]

I'd assume so

[cunning anvil]

in which case....

this looks much neater

[bitter oar]

help

[crisp patrol]

replace numpad with f13-24

[cunning anvil]

i think you mean

add another row

also not hunting down f13-24 caps

[cunning anvil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1142090637475328070/1235710893355176028/image.png?ex=66355cf3&is=66340b73&hm=033c0f8303cfc64954e562c48d3a6a3c23e626262da4b191ada11770c5a4420a&

okay this is cute

[modest condor]

remove r2 and put it on a layer 😈

[cunning anvil]

why r2

[modest condor]

make it cursed

[cunning anvil]

who even needs a bottom row

but no

i want something usable

to me

[modest condor]

usable keyboard?

[cunning anvil]

shut

[modest condor]

make it a split keyboard , but flip it , so qwert is on right side

[chilly perch]

Gonna rework the top to use a lot less space but my numpad is just about finished :-)

[silk matrix]

Hey guys I currently have a g512 carbon. Had it for years. Starting to go. Huntsman mini special edition or apex 9 mini?

[bitter oar]

both are very overpriced.

[silk matrix]

I'd spend around 40 dollars total

Which is better? Like better feeling

[bitter oar]

the apex 9 mini

$40 is not bad

brand new?

[late ridge]

BTW I’m really satisfied with the Cherry MX2A browns AND reds — first reds I’ve ever truly liked over just heavy blacks (don’t care for linears … non-gamer; heavy Pro Tools use, so the entire keyboard is shortcuts & macros…)

Browns better than ever for typing imo

[crisp patrol]

clears

[boreal rivet]

Topre is better

[sonic cape]

[cunning anvil]

anyone else upgrade to 23, had to rebuild the world. 650 packages

thank goodness for bins

[muted karma]

new browns are fine

they got major changes with the HG redesign

[cunning anvil]

this is keyboards fuck

[cunning anvil]

uhh

look! a half frow!

[boreal rivet]

Kinda want one for a makeshift rack console

[boreal rivet]

I think he’s referring to the cop board having a dome sheet above the mx switches

[sonic cape]

yeah in a good condition they do, and with backlight even more

[late ridge]

Anyone ever had Thock King lube & film switches at purchase? Thoughts?

[late ridge]

Lol you need a modifier for Up Arrow

[cunning anvil]

does not reflect final mapping

[late ridge]

Okay well I ordered ‘em and took a ‘before’ video

[late ridge]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1304128697/

$2500 14K gold keycap

[bitter oar]

How many grams

[late ridge]

I don’t know; listing doesn’t say, surprisingly. You’d have to message seller. Gold price is about $2300/oz. right now or $82/g lol

[tawny sail]

could someone recommend a good glorious model D- substitute?

budget is like max 100$

[tawny sail]

I really love the mouse but for some reason the right click has stopped working

I currently use the wired one, should I just buy the wireless model as an upgrade?

[wooden ember]

I highly recommend the G502 X Plus, but that's higher than your budget. The optical switches are wonderful.

[tawny sail]

o how much higher, I can spend a bit more ig

[spiral mica]

lamzu/pulsar

or DaV3

[tawny sail]

alr will check out, they're about the same size right?

cuz the D- fits very well for me

[wooden ember]

$126 at bestbuy right now

$121 on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G-Artanis-WL-Black/dp/B092CB69Q4?th=1

[tawny sail]

o, hmm after taxes and shipping that'd be almost 150 I can't spend that much

[wooden ember]

free shipping with amazon prime tho

[tawny sail]

w8 isn't g502 heavy af

[spiral mica]

just go to your local gaming gear shop or something and try the mouse there

[tawny sail]

or is this a new model, I haven't been updated in 2yrs so idk

[wooden ember]

if you think you need a light gaming mouse, ultra-tryhard gamers are lying to you

[tawny sail]

I have used heavier mice before, I usually play cs2 and val it does feel better to use a lighter one in my experience

[tawny sail]

oh alr thx

[spiral mica]

on eloshapes lamzu maya and thorn seems pretty close in terms of size

[wooden ember]

I've used all kinds of mice, it makes no difference. The part the matters is your sliding interface. You can swap to glass skates and have a way better experience.

[tawny sail]

glass skates would be too fast no💀

like from what I've heard you hardly have control

[modest condor]

thats a skill issue lmao

[wooden ember]

It's only slightly faster than PTFE, which the G502 X Plus comes with stock

[tawny sail]

oh I thought there was a massive difference, idk I've never used them before

[wooden ember]

No, after a day, I couldn't tell the difference. At first they feel wild, but you quickly adjust

[tawny sail]

icic

[spiral mica]

a g502 would be way too large

if you are using a model d- now

that thing is like huge

[tawny sail]

yea I've used a g402 in the past before, its pretty big

I can only palm grip it

I use claw

[spiral mica]

oh

yeah def try lamzu atlantis or pulsar x2h shapes if you can

x2h rly suits my relax claw

the switches are a bit meh but I dont rly care or can tell a difference anyways

[tawny sail]

alr thx

also another question

apart from weight is there any difference between atlantis thorn and maya?

[spiral mica]

shapes is completely different

thorn is ergo and maya is somewhat like a mini gpx

[tawny sail]

ohh so thorn would be closer to the D-

[spiral mica]

yeah but x2 and atlantis are made for claw grip

so rly depends on preference

[tawny sail]

I use like a claw with the D- too

so I think thorn should work fine then

[spiral mica]

thorn would be too "ergo" for claw

[tawny sail]

o

[spiral mica]

but you can try

[tawny sail]

isn't D- also ergo?

[spiral mica]

thorn has a even higher bump than model d

[tawny sail]

ohh

dimensions wise tho there's only a 2mm difference

and its smaller in some areas too by a millimeter or two, it seems like almost the same size

ig I'll give it a try beforehand in an offline store

alr tysm

[boreal rivet]

don't use glass skates if you can't keep your pads clean

mud effect is way more pronounced with glass skates than ptfe

[crisp patrol]

real shit

what do you think of sapphireskates

[boreal rivet]

Idk

Never had them

I just use a superglide pad

[boreal shore]

Will it hurt the switches/pcb if I just push the bottom of the switch out and then just take it out

[wooden ember]

Why would you do it that way?