peripherals

[bitter oar]

you can remove the foam though… it’s not a bad alu

https://youtu.be/NSIKH4N5-FA?feature=shared 12:30

does he rig the sound tests?

[lavish lava]

🤨

[bitter oar]

he has some very questionable youtube shorts sponsorships but, one the mains the reviews seem to be just fine

cause?

you realize so many youtubers do sponsorships…

if you want bit more thocky rainy 75 then get the one with jwicks

what about your recommendation for fully built 75%/tkl with cnc aluminium casing for $99

[bitter oar]

those 2k~ people who preordered the boards do

they’re looking for value no?

for $99 it’s not really bad

[wooden ember]

Define mid

[bitter oar]

no one said you to buy one and replace your current keyboard
and nobody also said you should spend extra $100 on a keyboard because the $99 one sucks

it’s fine for what it is

2 years ago alu keyboard under $150 didn’t even came to mind tbh

okay, what’s wrong with it then

a’m in the hobby for 3-4 years resp.

[modest condor]

full alu board... so its gonna sound like dog shit without foam , and with foam it just sounds like foam

[bitter oar]

first board i’ve modded? prolly some rando redragon keyboard with 3 pin sockets, don’t really remember

put alot of cotton into it ib

or was that different board

hobby of caring how my keyboard sounds, feels or modding the keyboards?

be more specific

the redragon one prolly and put some outemu switches into it, prolly packed it with some cotton

outemu browns? or red idk

what does count as custom keyboard anyways? that’s also subjective

also, it’s not nice to rate someone’s experience based on years especally in this type of hobby

that you’ve been decade into the hobby doesn’t mean you know everything

yes, but someone may be more into the hobby someone less that also depends

also, how do you know someone know’s alot without actually talking to them

man, your opinion on budget boards is shit apart from realforce

even with your decade of experience

shitty opinions

which is okay, i also have niche opinions but, if you make fun of me atleast make some more research

instead of making blank statements

you saying the f75 is trash tbh

at what exactly?

yes… you’re asking a $30 board to be competitive to a $200 one or what?

i gave you the stock sound test, there are also multiple on youtube.
there’s nothing partically wrong with the board
trash

i’m talking about the $30 one

aula f75

damn, so you call trash something that you don’t even know…

there’s your decade worth of experience

what do your $30 board and the f75 doesn’t

do you have any decent $30 boards

with hotswap sockets, gasket mount, foam layers, knob?

no one said you do nor i said you to buy one

i’m saying generally for people who look for budget boards

tbh, gasket mount is nice

it makes the typing ever so slighly more soft

and the aula f75 doesn’t have ”you have to apply 10lb force to actually see the flex”

no, it’s about on the mid side

not like some specific akko boards

wym

[warped lion]

Looking for a decent mechanical keyboard for long typing sessions and some gaming too. Hopefully wireless. Budget of around $60 though.

[bitter oar]

do you want a knob

volume knob

[warped lion]

not necessary

but i dont really mind it if it has to be there

[bitter oar]

mmm

[warped lion]

https://www.amazon.in/dp/B07BRKK9JQ

Using this "Mech Feel" keyboard rn and its paining my fingers to type on for so long cuz the keys are almost jammed... cant remove keycaps or anything

[bitter oar]

isn’t that like $120+ without sale

[bitter oar]

ewaste peripherals tbh

[warped lion]

true

now school is really demanding digital typing so i need an upgrade...

[bitter oar]

any prefered form factor? 60%, 65%, 75%, tkl, 1800?

[warped lion]

based in sweden.. but if prices are cheaper in india thats good too

[warped lion]

preferably with a seperate number and function row... US layout...

[bitter oar]

i assume you can get stuff from taobao

so, 1800 or 100%

[warped lion]

oh that far?

those r quite expensive rnt they?

[bitter oar]

they’re about the same maybe bit more compared to 75% and tkl on avg

[warped lion]

75 is good too... it has a seperate num n func row

[bitter oar]

aula f75 may be a decent choice here

[warped lion]

oof

ima check it out anyway

[bitter oar]

rule 4.

read

[bitter oar]

buy it from taobao not the epomaker site ideally

it’s twice as much on the epomaker site

[warped lion]

never heard of taobao...

damn

[bitter oar]

uh, you do the advertising for topre, hhkb, realforce all the time

[warped lion]

chinese site

[bitter oar]

part of alibaba group, chinese version of aliexpress

man, if i’m sponsored recommend him some decent 75% that’s not used

at $30 so, about how much the f75 costs

not everyone wants used

peripherals are the last thing i’d buy used personally, maybe hdds?

[warped lion]

no way its this cheap...

[bitter oar]

enterprise hdds are fine

[bitter oar]

yes it is

[warped lion]

thats...

[bitter oar]

i own one

[warped lion]

japanese ...

yen,,,

isnt.. it..?

[bitter oar]

pretty sure that’s chinese

also, it should be 250 chinese not 600

600 is overpay alot

[warped lion]

this one?

oh

ah

that makes

more

sense

yuan

but still

thats

actually cheap

why am i typing one word per message....?

[bitter oar]

yeah, i haven’t bought from taobao at all
surely 100% 1000%

definitely

[warped lion]

bro

this site

[bitter oar]

you can find it little cheaper tbh

[warped lion]

looks sketchy af tho..

call me racist but... its scary..

[bitter oar]

japenese? yen

or you mean chinese

yuan

[warped lion]

its chinese yuan right?

does this have like horrible resoponse time tho?

trying to find the catch here... this looks too cheap to be true

[bitter oar]

he confused me when he said yen

[bitter oar]

actually, it’s around 5ms wired

less than your monitor can display

[warped lion]

5ms wired?

[bitter oar]

yes

[warped lion]

what about wireless

[bitter oar]

7-8ms ib

bluetooth is like 15 though

[warped lion]

oof

[bitter oar]

which is still acceptable

[warped lion]

15 is quite a lot... almost visible right?

[bitter oar]

depends on who you ask

1000ms = 1 second so,

[warped lion]

although 2.4G is fine...

[bitter oar]

yes, the response is fine in short.

[warped lion]

im guessing this is only this cheap on this site?

[bitter oar]

you messed up manufactuners bias marketting 1ms for real…

[warped lion]

i couldnt find this on amazon...

[bitter oar]

haha it’s a joke
definitely not a pass to “i don’t have clue”

you called your lcd monitor 1ms tbh

specification, reality… more like 5ms or 8ms depending if you have the NA model or S

[warped lion]

damn its 70 bucks on the official site

[bitter oar]

it can do 1ms under best circumstances (ideal temperature) and specific gray to gray.

that’s how they rate them

you wouldn’t be succeful suing them

it doesn’t have rated input latency

you don’t know*

[warped lion]

whats these?

[bitter oar]

watch linus video how are 1ms labels misleading on lcd panels

then don’t call your monitor 1ms

mislead more people?

congrats

[bitter oar]

pick the cheapest

[warped lion]

only one exists lol

[bitter oar]

same for aliexpress

they wouldn’t sell those board for 70 bucks in the chinese market

[warped lion]

how do you check the delivery charge though?

[bitter oar]

ask the seller, the customs is very likely not included

[warped lion]

so this isnt final price?

[bitter oar]

basicly

they’ll add like 15%~ on top of it depending on how much customs charge

[long lantern]

Guyssdd

My keyboard broke

I want new one for under 40€, help plss

100% mechanical

With some quiet switches

[bitter oar]

what does quiet switch mean?

just linear? something extra quiet

yes, if you claim that it’s 1ms that’s misleading tbh

topre at €40

not everyone wants used…

peripherals

not everyone wants to clean them

also €40 for an used topre board is a scretch tbh

[modest condor]

@warped lion

u got open dms?

[long lantern]

Soooo?

[modest condor]

oh he does

i dmed u invite to Swedish keyboard server

can probably find some used boards there

or post a WTB

[bitter oar]

i’d point out but this may fall under rule 4

just warning so you don’t get muted

[modest condor]

no?

[bitter oar]

tbh ask a mod…

[modest condor]

go read rule #4 then

[warped lion]

oof\

the server you sent is full swedish 😬

[bitter oar]

last time i did something similiar, i just tried to give out something for free and well, mod didn’t particullary like it

[modest condor]

4. Do not spam, shitpost, troll, or advertise. This includes (but is not limited to) gameservers unrelated to LTT (eg. private Minecraft servers), low-quality content (such as memes or recycled posts, etc), general spam, religion, and politics. If you're not sure your post is allowed, it likely isn't.

[warped lion]

im pretty new to the language.. time to translate every sentence

[modest condor]

i invited him to a keyboard server for the country he is in

[modest condor]

can type english there if needed (pretty sure its allowed)

have done it multiple times

[warped lion]

ah k

[modest condor]

if u need some help let me know

[warped lion]

thanks, just translating the channel names rn

[modest condor]

im Norwegian so i can help u find whatever ur looking for in there

[bitter oar]

i mean, technically it isn’t probably but, i’d ask a mod

[modest condor]

why

its not advertising

its not spam , shitpost or troll

[bitter oar]

man, giving a freebie to someone also isn’t technically in the rules either

asking for them is

but giving?

no, i just don’t want him to get muted that’s all

[woeful lantern]

like it's somene you talked to and is looking for more data so yeah also it's in dm's not posted here so why care

[bitter oar]

what’s promiting about me recommending a keyboard?

i don’t get a single penny for the recommendation
so ???

i’d still not risk it though

[woeful lantern]

just stop please no one cares

[bitter oar]

ask a mod if you can send a server link for e. reason

[woeful lantern]

stuff in dm's isn't here so just stop

[modest condor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bitter oar]

man, ask a mod seriously… 1 minute of time

[modest condor]

u can do it since u care so much

[bitter oar]

expect they do and answer

[modest condor]

LOL

[bitter oar]

they’re in the most part in tc1 and tc2, pb chat

also, they won’t even if it would be agaisn’t the rules it’s prolly too little

i’d still ask them though

people shitpost all the time, which is agaisn’t the rules

[long lantern]

Anyone?

[bitter oar]

ask randomness tbh

[modest condor]

what?

[bitter oar]

any specific preferences? does it have be just linear, or silent linear

hotswap sockets?

they’re nice to have when your switch on your board breaks or such

[long lantern]

Some regular mechanical keyboard

I like em red switches 🤷‍♂️

Just less than 40€

Also preferrably durable

[bitter oar]

maybe keychron C?

[long lantern]

Not avaliable in my country

[bitter oar]

just don’t smash your board,
don’t spill liquids…
don’t eat over the board

[long lantern]

I do 1st

Das y i ask durable :)

Maybe sumn 100%?

I had white shark commandos i think

[bitter oar]

i don’t really know a budget that’s 1800/100% at $40 and decent

[long lantern]

1800?

[long lantern]

Ooo

[woeful lantern]

reddragon might have something

[long lantern]

Yes

[bitter oar]

yeah, redragon keyboard are fine

you may want to lube the stabilizers though

[bitter oar]

do you find rattly stabilizers annoying

or it’s fine

[long lantern]

Idc

No notice

[bitter oar]

yeah, then redragon will do just fine

preferably pick one with 3/5pin hotswap sockets if there are any available to you

[long lantern]

Huh

[woeful lantern]

for 40euro they are the quickest delivered you can get as they sold in normal sites

[bitter oar]

it doesn’t matter much, but one of the common issues is when you switch breaks and no longer registers presses

[long lantern]

Huh

[long lantern]

Prolly that happened on my old one

T aint working

Had id for a few months

[bitter oar]

yeah, the switch broke very likely

[long lantern]

Can i fix?

[bitter oar]

do you know how to solder stuff

desolder/solder

have the tool

[long lantern]

No

Idk what that even☠️

[modest condor]

Dinky , this was for u

[long lantern]

Mb

This good?

But otemu switches

[bitter oar]

i don’t have flux paste/rosin to clean the solder tbh, one is 35w needle solder, second one is 120w ol’ chonker (you don’t use that one for soldering electronics tbh),
it’s a very cheap set.
i don’t so soldering often it’s somewhere

last time i did solder prolly 3-4 months ago

idk

[bitter oar]

yeah, 3pin sockets

you can swap the switches when one breaks

outemu has some decent switch offrering

tho, i’d not upgrade this board personally, unless you have alot of time

[long lantern]

sure

[long lantern]

wha do you mean?

[bitter oar]

hotswap socket repair

but realized, i didn’t have like… decent superglue

[bitter oar]

nothing, you’ll be fine

[long lantern]

aigh

bro

zis so shizzy

[bitter oar]

just don’t invest too much money on that board to upgrade it

later on

[long lantern]

i have zo change a whole keyboard cus of 1 key

[long lantern]

i will prolly upgrade i never

idm

blud

iz so annoying

[bitter oar]

yeah, i gave up also because i realized there was a second hotswap socket popped i think, i just sold it as with broken socket

too much pressure applied than i should have

but, the sockets popped relative easy

it was the gmmk2

it was totally my fault tbh

didn’t pay attention and that’s about it

i had to file down parts in order to fit new stabilizers

what a waste of time

and money

;-;

didn’t have files on hand so, had to buy those as well

yeah, diamond files are handy

prolly just steel

very fine for filing aluminium

needle files i assume

imagine filing down an iphone

the mental pain of people watching it

i mean, you know it does hurts when someone before you destroys something valuable for no reason

[long lantern]

yall

are msi keyboards good?

i found kinda good one for 30$

atleast i think it good

[bitter oar]

msi vigor?

mehhh

the redragon will do

[long lantern]

msi elite c521

there is nun less than 50 euros

and this one 30

[crisp patrol]

hotswap sucks once you have a half decent iron

I have a pinecil rn

[bitter oar]

it also takes some time to desolder tbh

with hotswap sockets you… pull the switch in matter of second

[modest condor]

desoldering gun

[crisp patrol]

hakko desoldering gun*

[modest condor]

no

[bitter oar]

👍

[modest condor]

can get cheap desoldering station thingy for like 100-130usd

[crisp patrol]

I've just got a pump rn

[bitter oar]

still, hotswap is faster tb

[modest condor]

soldering is fun tho

[crisp patrol]

solder more reliable

[bitter oar]

depends

[modest condor]

pinecil V2 is super nice

[dawn swan]

hotswap will always suck for normal switches because of contact issues and bent leads

[modest condor]

depends if ur shit or not

[crisp patrol]

I have the v2

[bitter oar]

if you’re careful with hotswap sockets, you won’t end up with a popped socket

[crisp patrol]

shit solder joint

[bitter oar]

don’t put more force than you should and it’s like chance close to 0

[dawn swan]

if you dont want shit solder joints just use decent leaded solder

with high enough temp and flux

and using tiny baby irons with super fine point tips is bad too

like the smaller tips on something like a TS100

no heat transfer into the solder joint from lack of contact area

use a fat chisel tip

ive done multiple 100% keyboard switch swaps and the two things that take the longest are the desoldering and cleaning the soldering is incredibly easy

its way worse desoldering the shitty high temp lead free stuff from the factory without damaging stuff or going through multiple solder suckers

if its a custom and you start with leaded then its a non issue

[modest condor]

think i use B2 tip

[modest condor]

if u have desoldering gun , lead free should be pretty easy

just desolder with high temps

[dawn swan]

if you spend 300 on a decent tool or less used then yeah

the cheaper solder sucker guns/stations have tons of reviews about them burning out or clogging/breaking and probably wont last more than 1 keyboard

if I was to get one id just go with a hakko and not deal with the headache but have not had a use for a solder sucker in a while

I have some old stations with a hose and vacuum pump from stuff like PACE and they would clog constantly and struggle with lead free

ended up just setting a cheap amazon iron to 400c or more and burning through cheap solder sucker plungers i had around

[modest condor]

i got a cheap desoldering station , have used it a bunch

probably desoldered like 20+ PCBs

[bitter oar]

if you take the work yes

does lazy count as argument

too lazy to desolder and solder

i can just pull my switch puller and pull all the switches within two minutes

curiosity

[dawn swan]

all MX switches eventually have debounce issues from the contacts wearing out from normal daily usage unless its low polling rate/very high debounce delay

so you need to swap them as they age and it shows itself

appears as letters typing 2-3 times in a row with one keypress

they do not last that many presses

atleast within their specified contact bounce time window

if you have a 10ms debounce they probably can

cherry claiming actuation lifespan in a perfect test environment 'fact check'

[modest condor]

so what ur talking about , is user error

dirt etc

[dawn swan]

use your keyboard in a cleanroom then and only press on each key directly from the exact center of the stem with no force variation millions of times

[bitter oar]

i haven’t had issues from cherry clones/copies over 2 year age, i’ve used one a4tech b or “cherry mx clone” board alot

it’s more of an issue on mouse switches than keyboards

[modest condor]

this is true

think its mostly the china switches

[bitter oar]

cherry gd2?

oh, seriously? keyboard switches in mouse? why..

[modest condor]

this the one with track pad and shit right?

assuming it was used for the buttons , left and right

if i still used regular mice switches , i would totally get some Cherries

[bitter oar]

ttc mouse switches are nice

[modest condor]

GM 8.0 tactility

[bitter oar]

what were you doin

[bitter oar]

i like the huano pink dot shells alot

crisp

did you throw the mice or

the switch just decided to give up?

[modest condor]

thocctober is handy when it comes to soldering

so he could just replace

[bitter oar]

there are hotswap mouse sockets thoccy

what about those

asus does that stuff

on thier rog mices

[modest condor]

u can fit mill-max sockets

https://tenor.com/view/cody-ko-crazy-woo-haha-holding-a-drill-gif-25609385

[bitter oar]

you should throw it like frisbee

i throw my phone like frisbee when i’m lazy

always landed safely

for some reason i didn’t broke this way either the ipad nor my phone

dam

oh

throwing skill issue for the streamer

why would he throw it in the first place lol

no, it clacks

the old monsgeek m1 did thock

but, it was but boring sounding board

especally with the foam

gateron black inks more thocc

try v2’s

[modest condor]

ink material ew

[bitter oar]

or the boxe one

[modest condor]

better leaf

V1 had leaf issues

[bitter oar]

i don’t think

jwicks relative budget thocc

there are so many switches rn

hard to find out the best dollar/thocc switch

part of it yes

partially

[modest condor]

just get a PC switch

[bitter oar]

fill your keyboard with liquid metal

[modest condor]

thocky keyboard

[bitter oar]

still can’t find caramel keycaps i’m looking for

sadly

yes, but, are they semi transparent?

like with outer shell being transparent and inner opaque

it creates jummy look to it

yummy

• jam

any suggestions?

same finish like klein r2

but, orange

[modest condor]

DMK is decent

[bitter oar]

yeah… i just want them because of the finish

yeah, wish there was orange/caramel version

they only have the klein blues and reds i think

maybe emeralds

if that’s a thing

mmm

[modest condor]

DMK cant do good WoB color

compared to GMK , they are grey ish

[boreal rivet]

Use Taobao long enough and you’ll realise Chinese branded products are almost always cheaper there than if you bought from their international storefront

[bitter oar]

yeah, so far no issue with the $30 kb

[pearl gull]

whats the best keyboard under 45 dollars

better if its available in India :)

[muted karma]

man if only their spacebars and legends were a tiny bit better

(and their kittings weren't ass)

[warped lion]

not sure if the delivery is gonna reach where I want it to though,,,

[boreal rivet]

uh huh

dinky here for whatever reason thinks everyone can and is willing to go through the hassle of buying from taobao

[muted karma]

you can use superbuy

tends to make some stuff a lot cheaper

[warped lion]

I mean... I need to convince my parents to get it for me... if I show them a chinese site, they aint gonna trust it...

[modest condor]

buying from taobao is super easy tho

[boreal rivet]

It isn’t tho more often than not

[modest condor]

superbuy.com , paste link , buy

[boreal rivet]

Having to use a proxy and getting hosed by their exchange rate isn’t exactly an easy process

[modest condor]

so many good thocky keyboards

[bitter oar]

i mean there are other stuff for cheap too

not just kbs

[boreal rivet]

so true

i love getting chinese branded modelling tools for cheap

and i can get japanese paints for close to jdm pricing too 😃

[civic otter]

Hellllooooo, does anyone know any good keyboard with spiral cables? (Price range starting from 100 USD), cause my cousin is searching for one for his new petshop

[spiral mica]

I think akko will has coiled cable included in some of the more expensive ones

alos you can always buy a coiled cable seperately

[bitter oar]

monsgeek m series have coiled cables

but, that’s not fully built kb

no switches nor keycaps

not sure if the m1w comes with coiled one

[long lantern]

yall

quick question

are fantech keyboards good?

[tight jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633472896315949091/1191895766256599141/IMG_0976.mov?ex=65c2c9ef&is=65b054ef&hm=cccfdf0fec2540e736333aeee1599577d08478c4e28e7c047b180db4a2b04432&

[long lantern]

anyone?

[bitter oar]

?

[long lantern]

hm

i tought he answered my question

mb

[bitter oar]

are you trollin?

starting from $100 oh

[long lantern]

this keyboard any good?

[restive valley]

https://zealpc.net/ zealios sale

still damn expensive tho

[bitter oar]

uh, monsgeek m1 is not $30

is ther anything wrong

asked for coiled cable board so…

it’s his requirement not mine

what’s dogshit about it?

he asked for it…

if he demands it?

who’s stopping him

man, you don’t understand the term “budget”

chonker board

ohhh

you should also…

1ms is marketting bias for monitors

you wouldn’t won

they do reach 1ms under certain circumstances

lcd as a technology is physically incapable of running 1ms gtg tbh

on the whole range

you can’t tell the crystals to spin faster

whatever

you stated “my monitor is 1ms”

it takes barely any research to find out it’s marketting bias

you kinda indicated “5ms is bad” on the $30 board by saying your monitor is “1ms”

at what is it bad though

be more specific

please

saying just it’s bad is a blank statement when you can’t say the reason

that’s wrong advice then

you call something bad you don’t even know about

when they ask for sub $50 why’s the f75 bad?

i’ve never recommended the f75 to someone who’s looking for high end board

obviously there are better

but, the f75 is awesome for the price

the $30 keyboard is great, what logic is that with you

it’s much better than your average gaming board

better something than nothing

great compared to the garbage they own

damn

[long lantern]

which one ho

[bitter oar]

not everyone likes rattly stabilizers, knob is handy, nice switches are, it’s wirelss…

hotswap sockets also

[bitter oar]

F75

one switch breaks, you can easily hotswap the switch

if you’re not careful*

[long lantern]

that aint 30$

[bitter oar]

on taobao

[long lantern]

oh

[bitter oar]

it comes with two switches tbh

free

[long lantern]

does fantech make good keyboards?

[bitter oar]

damn, you just can’t accept a loss at all

you can’t really say what’s wrong with the board that’s all..

[bitter oar]

compare logitech, razer keyboard to the f75

[long lantern]

YAY

also tf are double injection caps

[bitter oar]

why?

i’d not call bloatware software a feature

that eats your ram whole

minus your data privacy

just the darmoshark m3s software currently on my oc

it’s like 40mb of ram

ermm, it’s not

ran it through malwarebytes and virustotal it was fine
you can could technically call spyware everything that collects you data tbh so… everything.
also, discord is owned by tencent so…
…
..

i don’t run random crapshit on my pc

i was the dud who always removed viruses from other people’s pcs

you don’t have to.

also, what’s wrong with chinese software

you seem to have no idea how stuff works…

chinese = bad?

you can search it in youtube

right at what?

also, running the software doesn’t mean it’s not malicious when it’s literally not torjan/ransomware

the point of scanning the software with antiviruses

[magic wolf]

@patent belfry you must have a guilty pleasure for doing this so much

[bitter oar]

darmoshark software was detected 0 in virustotal and malwarebytes also didn’t catch anything, prolly could also use bitdefender but why?

man, you’re complaining about chinese software when in reality those collect prolly less personal data than your synapse

also, eat less ram

[magic wolf]

if im even 20% sure I got malware im straight up clean wiping and reinstalling

[magic wolf]

ram? whew, thats...a step above

[bitter oar]

ram doesn’t catch viruses

[magic wolf]

power off should do the trick

eh, could have ECC, but probably not

[bitter oar]

i mean… it’s not like it stores data like ssd

[magic wolf]

data in ram cannot physically persist thru a power cycle, unless you have server ram

[magic wolf]

stfu kve you use 3 antivirus scans

[bitter oar]

If you’re not sure, it’s better safe than sorry

[magic wolf]

I ran a trainer for a game that I thought was a fling for halo mcc.

well, the there was several red flags I was mentally aware of but hey, whats the worst that could happen. Nothing opened.

No output, not even an error message. Looked at task manager for a split second, "eh, better safe than sorry"

wiped.

malware can go so deep kve

[bitter oar]

i don’t think standart dimm ram can hold onto anything once you remove the power

[magic wolf]

it can sit in the MBR of a hard drive.

kve buddy, you tried to vouch for software with 3 subsequent malware scans.

that...is just.

you cant act like you know about this stuff like that

[bitter oar]

so, you tell me i should be constantly worried about malware?

[magic wolf]

you are the your own best antivirus

so yes.

you should.

[bitter oar]

i’d be paranoid about every loophole in the chipset then

[magic wolf]

I like how he goes straight from 3 malware scans that are all probably using the same definitions anyway to the southbridge controller unit firmware

[bitter oar]

never caught any malware or anything and i’ve been plenty caucious and aware of what i’m downloading

and even if i had…. i probably wasn’t “serious” enough

[magic wolf]

eh, we all downloaded stupid shit. Thinking defenition scans is a vouch for software though is just ignorant

[bitter oar]

sometimes something you don’t suspect as being malware can very well be

[magic wolf]

ehhhhh, you should / dont want to start with, spoonfeeding. Sets a bad precedent

[bitter oar]

also, it’s very hard to filter out stuff with just common sense when there are hundreds of files on colleague’s pc

you seem like you have been using mccafee lol

[magic wolf]

?

[bitter oar]

it’s grail of joke antiviruses

[magic wolf]

lmao I just said I wiped my drives before anything else and thats what he goes to

[long lantern]

dang it

[hybrid linden]

tell me a good 60% keyboard for gaming and modelling don’t care about the price as long as it’s worth the price

[spiral mica]

wooting

[dawn swan]

wooting 60he ordered from their website and not ebay scalper trashbags

1-2 month wait usually but nowhere near as atrocious as waiting over a year for plastic keycaps that are rainbow vomit colored in a groupbuy

[tight jewel]

this is true

[tight jewel]

moonlander 👍

it plays the ussr anthem

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633472896315949091/1191895766256599141/IMG_0976.mov?ex=65c2c9ef&is=65b054ef&hm=cccfdf0fec2540e736333aeee1599577d08478c4e28e7c047b180db4a2b04432&

[magic wolf]

when you recommend Linux to internet people

[karmic solstice]

im in the uk are there any decent mechancial keyboards 60% max size about rk84 but for around 30-40 pounds. rk61 is just out of budget at 50

[prime mirage]

Wait for a rk61 sale

[chrome raft]

Any Keycaps recommendations off Amazon up to 35$?
Pbt preferred,
All white / Brown&white / Black&white

I saw the Yunzii Cofee Cat keycaps for 37$
They look really nice, are they worth the price?

[long lantern]

guys fas

redragon k551 or k552

[bitter oar]

? https://www.amazon.com/Guffercty-kred-Sublimation-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B09HX228WX/

[chrome raft]

It doesn’t look like the ones I lookes at previously
Ill send a link, sec

[bitter oar]

yeah, those you mention look better

you can also check akko chocolate

they’re about $40

[chrome raft]

Ill check them out
Thank you 🙂

[bitter oar]

depends on if you want numpad/not

[long lantern]

idm

sure

[bitter oar]

if you have less desk space then numpadless

[long lantern]

i have too much ☠️

[bitter oar]

tkl

then full sized is fine

[long lantern]

are they both hot swappable

oml

[bitter oar]

should be outemu/3pin

it won’t support most switches

you’d have to clip the switch

individually

it’s still useful

once one of your switches turn non working

[long lantern]

they both have small enter button..

das crap

[long lantern]

clip?

[bitter oar]

clip the legs off

[long lantern]

aig

ill go w full size

im missing 1$ for free shipping..

[native sundial]

How many layers should one do on a tempest mod?

[modest condor]

[magic wolf]

start with 3 and go up

3 usually ends up being perfect imo

[native sundial]

Gotcha thanks

[magic wolf]

more can end up in more low pitch sound if you want that but eventually you're fucking up the feel

[neon plume]

Does epomaker use cheap chinese pcbs

[modest condor]

epomaker is a shit company 😊

[bitter oar]

they make some decent budget boards

they kinda all suck tbh

[native sundial]

What kinda foam do you guys use for foam modding and where do ya get it?

are you fr?

hahahahaha

idk just something about that feels wrong lol

I’m just prepping to do all the standard mods to my RK84

I have never heard of someone putting sand in their keeb lmao

[bitter oar]

you can put pretty much anything into a keyboard

the denser the better

[native sundial]

play dough it is

[bitter oar]

you can even use concrete

[native sundial]

sounds hard to get cables through lmao

I’ll probably just use foam lmao

[bitter oar]

make sure to manage that lmao before using concrete

[long lantern]

can somoene help

my keyboard sometimes working

sometimes not

just 1 key actually

the "t" key

[bitter oar]

prolly dead switch

[long lantern]

😭

[stark flare]

I just got home and my keyboard no longer works, I have tried 2 different ports and cables. I’ve taken it apart because it’s a custom board I don’t see anything wrong with the type C port or anything I have no clue what it could be

[crisp patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140140196113940610.webp?size=48&name=Chilly&quality=lossless

[timber zinc]

What would be like the best 100% mechanical keyboard with RGB.

[bitter oar]

budget?

[timber zinc]

150 or less

[bitter oar]

country?

[timber zinc]

USA

[bitter oar]

a keychron V or Q will do

[boreal rivet]

Realforce rgb

[bitter oar]

dollar abs keycap set on a $200 keyboard

[boreal rivet]

😭

Savage

[timber zinc]

Are any of them solid black I am yet to find one if there is

[timber zinc]

As of right now this would be my choice https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v6-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40320325058649

[exotic light]

I've stolen 3 sets of glorious panda's switches from Best buy and 3 sets of glorious lynx switches from microcenter

🪤

[long lantern]

someone help 🙏

do i get redragon k551 or k552

[modest condor]

thocky keyboard

[long lantern]

y?

...

nah

nah

i refuse to belive

ty

whats wrong w em?

😭

okay i said that ironically

wtf

tf that gifs

[dawn swan]

redragons are atrocious from nonstandard switches, bad software, questionable PCB quality, really high input lag for a wired

and now they are increasing in price like they are more 'premium'

charging more than what they used to go for

should never pay more than 20 dollars for any keyboard from that brand

[native sundial]

TIL my RK84 came pre foam modded and with lubed stabs from the factory lmao

[tender crater]

is Keychron C1 Wired a good keyboard for 50€?

[bitter oar]

it’s fine

no silicone pad unlike the V1 but, has atleast some bottom foam

[long lantern]

yes @bitter oar

why are you

[bitter oar]

why what

[long lantern]

ignoring some of us

[long lantern]

which one do u suggest then?

im on a tight budget..

• i think its good for me, i aint looking for alot

just good sounding switches and preferrably hot swappable

and asthetic looks

[bitter oar]

just thocc

[long lantern]

y?

[dawn swan]

evga z15

cheap fullsize with hotswap standard sockets

fits normal switches

can be found for 30-50 dollars

[long lantern]

see thats a nother problem

theres not much options in my country

[bitter oar]

i’d not call 3 pin sockets standard

[long lantern]

i would have to wait for few weeks and pay like 20 shipment atleast

[dawn swan]

more standard than redragon

garbage sockets with nonstandard lead width

cannot fit normal cherry switches

[long lantern]

89?!

[dawn swan]

45 on newegg

[long lantern]

was wrong w otemu?

[bitter oar]

there are better options tbh

literally 95% of good switches are 5pin

[dawn swan]

the main thing it has going for it is that you can find it for 40 dollars in alot of places

[bitter oar]

you’d have to clip off the switch legs in order to fit into the sockets

[bitter oar]

comes with scratchy kailh speed silver switches

[long lantern]

new egg doesent exist in my country

[dawn swan]

i got that keyboard a while ago to use for gaming mainly and swapped the switches to kailh box which effectively doubled the price of it since i hate silvers

still did not like it for other reasons and just bought wooting after that

[long lantern]

Uh

[dawn swan]

but its the best cheap keyboard ive used and i know of other people who have used it and were fairly happy with it

[long lantern]

Ima just go w redragon

[dawn swan]

the only thing worse than redragon is glorious gmmk and that is because its just as shit but 3x the price

[long lantern]

Wholy po

Pp

[bitter oar]

gmmk2 is fine

[dawn swan]

talking about the fullsize gmmk

[long lantern]

Damn

[bitter oar]

overpriced i’d say

it’s not terrible

[dawn swan]

i had a fullsize gmmk and returned within the same day it was so shit

[modest condor]

glorious shit company

[long lantern]

Meh im getting very good looking and fine sounding 100% for 30€

[bitter oar]

the stabs are but, the keyboard doesn’t sound hollow or such

atleast

[dawn swan]

the kailh switches flopped right out of the switch plate from the ass tolerances

when pulling adjacent ones

and then it lied about the polling rate

and the polling rate adjustment was broken in firmware

RGB was just as bad or worse than redragon software

[bitter oar]

i mean… it’s from like 2017 originally

it was fine back then

[dawn swan]

reason for buying that one was for fullsize layout

[last saffron]

i ordered a monsgeek m3 base

[bitter oar]

same with gmmk pro it was fine value until a year later where it got easily outcompeted by $150-200 keyboards

gmmk was like $17 on glorious website a while ago

not bad at all

[dawn swan]

i just got tired of it on buying garbage and ordered two HE early last year no issues to this day

i just dont like linears as much as tactile/clicky but im fine with the tradeoff for actually decent features

smooth switches with adjustable actuation and no switch failures yet

have yet to see it do anything like chattering when every single mechanical keyboard ive had previous exhibited it eventually

after 6mo-year

[bitter oar]

there are more hall effect boards than just wooting

[dawn swan]

and thats a good thing

objectively better switch technology than having a bouncing contact leaf that wears over time

should become the standard for higher end keyboards

[bitter oar]

meh

it’s nice but, i don’t really need customizable actuation point

the switches sound average

and feel also

[dawn swan]

the only real complaints i have with the keyboard are that there are no heavier switches for it and the case/plate cannot really be customized but atleast they are releasing a spring variety pack soon

nonstandard spring dimensions that have to be non magnetic

i found aliexpress stainless springs that are about ~80g+ and fit the housing they just are an odd fit

[bitter oar]

the non standard sockets and sound are dealbreaker to me

[dawn swan]

the worst thing is probably just lack of switch variety currently

but that should change as more hall effect keyboards are made

i never really cared about sound as long as its not offensive since i dont pay attention to it

just how they feel when typing

they do sound much better though after swapping to heavier springs and adding lube to stems

[modest condor]

tactile HE when

[dawn swan]

if i compare a stock switch on the numpad to one ive replaced

the main reason for no tactile HE is probably just because they would kind of diminish the advantage of adjustable actuation

[modest condor]

true

[dawn swan]

or the analog input

[modest condor]

ill wait for TX or a good spring maker to make some nice 80g springs

[dawn swan]

but very few games actually utilize analog input well so that is a minimally used feature for me

[modest condor]

Geon is doing both TKL and 60 HE PCBs , so ill wait for those

[chrome raft]

Got a question
I ordered the Epomaker Th80 pro Barebone like a week and a half ago
I recently saw loads of negative comments about Epomaker, but not on this specific keyboard
Should I cancel?

Or am I good

[modest condor]

personally i would , epomaker is a HORRIBLE company

[chrome raft]

Oh damn

Alright then

Can I even cancel?

It’s in my country already

[modest condor]

https://i.imgur.com/FZKDxdt.png

[chrome raft]

😭

Holy shit

What have I done

It doesn’t let me cancel

Fuck me

Well
It is what it is

[modest condor]

where u from

[chrome raft]

Israel
The package already passed customs

[modest condor]

check ur countrys law , about refunds etc

[chrome raft]

Ill check
Thank you

[chrome raft]

I can’t😭

Guess Ill just have to wait for it to come to my house and see if that shit even turns on

[bitter oar]

why bother? they’ll ship the thing dw

[last saffron]

hm

[chrome raft]

I saw so many people that saying the keyboard doesnt even turn on, or not turning on after a couple days of usage

That scared tf out of me

[bitter oar]

happens on literally every other products

DOA is not that uncommon

[chrome raft]

Reliability tho

I really hope that it will come with no issue, it’s my first mechanical keyboard

[bitter oar]

there aren’t that many thing that could die on a keyboard pcb

[bitter oar]

99.5% it won’t

arrive DOA

[chrome raft]

The board should come on february 1st, Ill send some pictures when it will arrive

But my switches and keycaps still not here

[bitter oar]

i bought aula f75 (also epomaker)

apart from having lube under the stabilizers no issues

easily cleaned off with some cloth

better more lube than less

[chrome raft]

Hope everything will be ok

[last saffron]

hm

[chrome raft]

But I won’t buy from them again fs

[bitter oar]

• shitty company, but it won’t stop me from purchasing thier stuff

[chrome raft]

Lmao

[last saffron]

hm

[chrome raft]

?

[last saffron]

oh nothing.

[chrome raft]

Gotchu

[bitter oar]

tbh asus did something relative recently with thier X670E motherboards, where the motherboard would just fry x3d skus due to high voltage, literally melting the cpu and frying them, and as a response they released bios version that was supposted to fix the issue, well it did but, also not completely the voltage was still high but, not enough to melt the cpus. if you wanted to install the beta bios version that would prevent the cpu fritage you’d get officially warrianty void which is insane. gamers nexus made video

After they criticized them asus stated you’d be no longer warrianty voided with the bios version and they eventually fixed the issue entirely

but the damage has been done.

other companies aren’t much less shitty
i’d not just avoid completely buying because the company does some shady stuff with their marketting and pulling nonesense lawsuits

Rockstar very recently pulled some lawsuit because they think Remedy’s R logo is too similiar to theirs

It’s not.

[sage swallow]

does anyone know a cheapish tenkeyless keyboard wireless usb kinda thing like the ajazz 820 pro kinda thing? it's like £30 shipping from epomaker and i can't find anything like it on amazon, i want it to sound smooth and be hot swappable but this for £65 minus the shipping is perfect, if anyone can link some really good alternatives that i might be able to get on amazon or something, that'd be bliss

[bitter oar]

aula f75 from taobao/aliexpress

[boreal rivet]

I should buy one to shit on it

[bitter oar]

not my money

do whatever

idk where you would shit on a $30 keyboard

3 blocked messages

all the cons i’ve found are: north facing sockets, doesn’t support pcb mounted stabilizers, screwless design, plastic body, no VIA/QMK support, and that’s about it

[modest condor]

[bitter oar]

but, you can’t really compare a $30 board to a custom $300 one or such

compare it to sub $100 boards

at most

pros ~ cheap, relative smooth switches no scratch decently pre-lubed (leobog reaper), hotswap, good stabilizer job, knob (down to preference), decently bright rgb (if that matters), doesn’t sound hollow, cream’ish/marble’ish sound profile, fine looking pbt keycaps, low input lag based on the reviews, wireless bt/2.4, 4000mah battery, good gasket performance for $30 ain’t bad

3+2 blocked messages

ehh lemme unblock him what he says

just trolling/shitposting aight

not gonna unblock you second time

[boreal rivet]

rest in peace soldier 🫡

@bitter oar me when it arrives

[dawn swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872694502157090827/1144436338574233690/caption.gif

[boreal rivet]

@patent belfry SP is being sold off btw

i gotta buy some ice caps

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=122321.0

nvm its so damn expensive LOL

[sage swallow]

I literally got no info

Just people shitting on another keyboard, all I want is a wireless usb tenkeyless keyboard for like less than £60

[modest condor]

@bitter oar

[sage swallow]

okay lemme reiterate, where can i get a keyboard like above but NOT wait for like a month shipping, i hate that shit i want it like now, tomorrow or at worst, in a week

[sage swallow]

VGN GAMEPOWER RK86 Wireless Mechanical Keyboard Apex Pro TKL 75%, 2.4G/Bluetooth/USB-C Wired Gaming Keyboard M75, Gasket Mount with TFT Color Display & Knob, RGB Backlit, Hot Swappable Linear Switch https://amzn.eu/d/106seQl

Do you lot think this is reliable looking?

It looks the same to the ‘attack shark k86’ but this is gamepower and rk86

Does anything seem fishy

[bitter oar]

VGN makes decent keyboards

[pallid ocean]

Is the Ajazz AK820 Pro a good keyboard ? I have seen some videos on it but if someone here has it, does it feel good ?

[bitter oar]

they sound bit boring for my taste but, seems like nothing wrong with them

[bitter oar]

yes, it’s decent

[pallid ocean]

ok thanks

[bitter oar]

though, it’s no longer in sale on the ajazz site

i’d probably not buy it for 60 bucks

the spacebar/stabilizers may need some tuning also

[pallid ocean]

well i have it

[pallid ocean]

okay well then what do you recommend me for 60 bucks?

[bitter oar]

is a screen required or nah

[pallid ocean]

nah

[bitter oar]

if you want to save also aula f75 is excellent value from taobao
leobog hi75 + some switches + keycaps

the ak820 pro is fine though, i’d maybe wait for some sale

if you like it

[pallid ocean]

damn i just heard a sound test i'm going with the aula

[sage swallow]

So it is a legitimate keyboard that is not a scam?

[bitter oar]

scam like…?

yes it isn’t a scam

random brands rebrading the same thing is not that uncommon in the kb space

[sage swallow]

Okay this is what I needed to know

I don’t know much about keyboards so when I find something named differently to another brand it seems very sketchy to me

I doubt anyone has that exact keyboard but if you say it’s legit then I should probably go for it

I’m sick of razer green switches (plus my razer keyboard is getting so old)

[bitter oar]

i mean, VGN is legit so…

their mices are good for the price

[sage swallow]

It looked weird cause their page only sold 2 mice and that keyboard

[bitter oar]

they sell, keyboards, F1 series mice which are pretty decent, mousepads

not sure about the quality of their mousepads

[fiery magnet]

so my spacebars brackets keep ''falling off'' how can i make them stick to my spacebar? can i use glue? if so, does it matter what type of glue i use?

[bitter oar]

stems?

or you have some sort of non standard stabilizers

[bitter oar]

which keyboard

[sage swallow]

I just want a simple but specific keyboard to get rid of my old black widow pro

[fiery magnet]

razer chroma black widow v2 i think

[bitter oar]

yes, the VGN one is fine

[sage swallow]

Good to know good to know Ty Ty

[fiery magnet]

yeah yeah i know its old but i like it

[fiery magnet]

actually im not sure

[bitter oar]

i’d suggest not using glue on the stabs

you’ll find it really hard once you want to clean the thing

if the stabilizers are regular mx stem put try putting some cloth into the stem holes

but, it sounds like your spacebar has broken mx standoffs

what to call them

[fiery magnet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i got them back on by myself but idk if its gonna last

i don't know much about keyboards so yeah

thanks for the help tho

[chrome raft]

Hey
Just wanted to ask
How it the Yunzii yz75?

The kit version

[bitter oar]

tbh, at that price there are aluminum kits

like leobog hi75

buy it from taobao ideally cause it's cheap there

[cunning anvil]

anyone know of 6 key general use keyboard maps?

i found as low as 8 but i only have 6 in this case

[chrome raft]

Isn’t it epomaker’s?

[bitter oar]

collab with epomaker

ib

also, epomaker is not bad

[chrome raft]

I don’t really fw epomaker
Saw loads of negative reviews

[bitter oar]

some companies are worse, also, every company has negative reviews

look at trustpilot on asus

[chrome raft]

Not that many, for sure

I don’t want to have a product that I won’t be satisfied with and won’t get any support if anything happens

[bitter oar]

asus is much larger company and they let thier motherboards fry $400 cpus

also, if you wanted to fix that issue you'd void your warrianty

[chrome raft]

Idk man, Ill just cancel my order and go for the Yunzii one for 15$ cheaper and more reliable

[bitter oar]

yes, they did annouce later on after they got heavily critized they made it no longer warrianty voidable.

[bitter oar]

they're the same

i'd suggest buying the hi75

i bought from epomaker few times and the stuff surprisingly works

[chrome raft]

Surprisingly🥲

[dense bridge]

Just build a keyboard from the keychain k2 pro jadeblosom lubed from Penske and maker Rome key caps turned out great

[crisp patrol]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/z1GkC3fwmhL1K60wKc0CbmeT4lvNY9PbdDU0sEOZCJ4/https/i.imgur.com/FZKDxdt.png

[crisp patrol]

asus is also hella incompetent

from their "evangenlion" mobos to their rma experience to their laptops with shit lm application

[last saffron]

epomaker are baaaad

[cunning anvil]

new board

[tight jewel]

💀

[rare raptor]

So later I had a problem

Whenever I want to type or press any key on my keyboard it doesn't type unless I double click the button

Like for example I have to double press on b button to type a single b

I cannot find a solution

[strong helm]

bingdingdadingding

[rocky kernel]

Hello everyone.

I am currently trying to research how custom keyboard making works with the goal to make one of my own. Currently I am not quite sure/ understand the following thing:
What is the difference between cherry mx switches and the ones that other companies make? Like Gateron or Everfree? How are they better or differ from each other?
Does it matter where I get my switch samples from? (I am about to buy gateron switch sample but I am not sure whether it will affect my choices in buying switches)

[magic wolf]

cherry was the company behind the design of the mechanical switch, any switch after it that uses its design is a cherry style switch. Gateron is an example of a company who makes cherry style switches

they're a good choice to go with since they're outside the realm of...group buys and limited supply

[static kite]

Cherry MX is... not that popular in the custom keeb scene.

There are hundreds of other choices that are equal (for cheaper) or better.

[rocky kernel]

Which tester set should I buy in order to find the switch that suits me the best?

Thank you so much @static kite @magic wolf

[static kite]

Uh.

[rocky kernel]

I am looking hybrid gaming/typing silent mechanicle switch that doesn't make that loud click sound but still has that "click feeling" when I press it.

[static kite]

Every switch has its own personality, I guess.

[static kite]

Ah, tactile silent.

Kailh will do.

I have used Kailh silent, they're... very silent.

[magic wolf]

You really won’t know until you

Know. You know?

It’s personal.

I found myself adoring silent switches

Silent keyboard

[static kite]

Also, yeah. Every switch variant has its own personality.

But just start off with the cheaper ones.

I'd recommend Kailh for that.

[bitter oar]

Does this affect me as an end consumer when i buy their proper products?