#peripherals

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pliant reef
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whats the diff

magic wolf
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.4mm uhhhhhhh

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Bruh cmon

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Really?

pliant reef
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nah im just joking

magic wolf
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Oh did you finally figure out it was compatibility?

pliant reef
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really?

magic wolf
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Yeah it’s not a spec

pliant reef
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wasnt that hard anwsering was it=

magic wolf
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I’ve never shopped for stabs but what I do know is

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It’s incredibly likely that, not all keyboards are the same

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Honestly I’m still half guessing here

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3 months ago I was on a gaming keyboard from Best Buy

boreal rivet
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thanks to flex memes we now have 1.2mm pcbs

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so if you want to pursue the meme then you need 1.2mm stabs

magic wolf
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Flex memes….gasket 2 electric boogaloo?

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Plastic plates?

pliant reef
magic wolf
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There’s too many mods relating to stabs to try before, it’s worth looking into aftermarket imo

pliant reef
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i heard they are not that bad but not great

magic wolf
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I’ve done various experiments with stab mods and well….the most they do is help bad stabs be decent, at stabilizing

pliant reef
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thats all

magic wolf
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Which, is, like, all it needs to do. I found much more impact in. Making my spacebar less hollow

magic wolf
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Wait

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Don’t you have a keychron

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We have screw in stabs, what’s even rattling?

pliant reef
magic wolf
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:/

pliant reef
magic wolf
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Personally, I have done 3 things to mine and they’re, well. Stable. And dead silent

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1: cut out a pad for the base of the stab on your pcb, think of it like a carpet

2: holee mod. This is the definitive way to ensure that your stab never hits a hard surface

3: a pretty decent squeeze of the dielectric tube

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The holee is the more complex one since it needs to be fully cleaned and dried before trying

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Tiny tweezers is necessary

wild star
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Is a good lubing guide.

wild star
magic wolf
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Ah, a worthy sacrifice for the silence

wild star
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If you're going for silence, then no doubt you'd want to use pads.

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I get pleasure from the clacks and thocks though.

magic wolf
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Sharing a building with someone else

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That’s not the only use case…..I get the mushy problem people have, but….ok actually, this can be best described with a video

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I remember when this little wireless keyboard was my benchmark

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But now you can trade a slight, mush yes, for a mechanical keyboard having its closest contender be a touch screen

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It’s like the, sheer absurdity that’s attractive

chrome raft
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damnnn

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which switches

magic wolf
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Mmmmm the switches will not make your kb sound like this, honestly this is roughly sound wise because of the….unholy combination of trash in my case

magic wolf
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They’re gateron silent black ink v2 but if you plop those into stock keychron expecting this? You’re gonna be extremely disappointed

chrome raft
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I just want to find a good switch 😕

magic wolf
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Shop for switch based on feel first.

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Sound is, impossible the shop for

chrome raft
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I love the Cherry MX browns, but they are LOUD

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i need something with the same feeling, more quiet

magic wolf
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Well bad news for you, silent switches uses, a rubber like dampener in the switch to absorb impact

chrome raft
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yeah with a mushy feeling

magic wolf
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They’re not popular choice for this reason

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But

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If that non issue

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You can bring your mechanical keyboard to a….uhh, what’s supposed to be a quiet place

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I was gonna say library but those don’t exist lol

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A study hall*

chrome raft
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but why the hell would I take my gaming keyboard in a public place

magic wolf
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You can make any keyboard considerably more quiet with most of the mods that involve putting shit into your keyboard, of the tape and foam variety

chrome raft
magic wolf
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Gotta put it to the test

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What you gonna try to 140wpm monkeytype while parents sleeping?

chrome raft
magic wolf
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Not good benchmark

chrome raft
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☹️

magic wolf
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Me when those things only killed mechanical keyboards BECAUSE of “just how much more quiet they were”

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Mechs are back for blood and taking the fight to touchscreens

boreal rivet
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there were already silenced switches even before the advent of membranes

last saffron
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i bought monsgeek m3 keyboard kit off ali express

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113 pounds though 18.98 pounds of that was vat

chrome raft
crisp patrol
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just keep in mind alps boards aren't the most popular

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and switch prices are high compared to mx

chrome raft
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Its alright
Im looking for a good switches for so long i don’t mind paying

crisp patrol
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beware the money pit

cunning anvil
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balls

chilly perch
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nicve

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I need to start making my keyboard again

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Ive been stumped on how to do a quality solid white integrated plate. Right now my best solution is to get a PCB with white screen for the plate

last saffron
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im undecided on what keycaps to go with

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building a tkl in a monstgeek m3 case

magic wolf
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I’ve used nothing but OEM until I got into this hobby, and it’s just insane how profile changes the…..feel of motions when typing

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I jumped straight to SA profile first here, and now I wanna try all the heavily ranged / generally tall profiles

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I wouldn’t recommend if you work a job where you predominantly type, because they’re more effort to use…but

last saffron
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im used to a ducky keyboard

magic wolf
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Uhm.

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Keycaps

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I’m talking about caps specifically here

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If you’re just trying to game get whatever you can afford and looks cool to you

last saffron
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ye

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i was thinking pbt

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i know the ducky ones are oem

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only used like oems so

magic wolf
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Profile won’t matter much, if anything varied height profiles would be worse

last saffron
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i was thinking cherry or double shot

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by this guide im reading

magic wolf
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They’re designed around type motions, moving between rows. For gaming? You have a finger statically on each row.

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Material is whatever

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CRP, PBT generally avoid “finger oil” by being “rougher” on the surface

crisp patrol
magic wolf
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Sometimes the coolest caps….also had to be shiny.

last saffron
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ye

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im building a clicky hotswap board

magic wolf
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Some of the best keycaps are ABS

last saffron
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so i can change it out if need be

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as a clicky switch guy i went with box jades

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i already have cherry mx blues on my oem ducky one 2 board

magic wolf
last saffron
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what

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i like mx blues

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its a preferance

magic wolf
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Being artificially loud is

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Disgusting

last saffron
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but it helps me stim so

magic wolf
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Everyone in your house hears it too

last saffron
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i live alone

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with my dog and cat

magic wolf
last saffron
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ye

magic wolf
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Sorry

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Not a usual use case

last saffron
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i live with my 3 year old dog and 8 month old kitten

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ye

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already have a noise gate set up so people don't hear them

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using a shure sm58 with a focusrite solo

magic wolf
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A blue user….actually managed to

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I’m stunned

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I thought they all were just apes

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You even accounted for the group chats

last saffron
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its not outemu blues

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gateron blues are okay but outemu blues are bad

magic wolf
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I respect tactically but personally hate artificially induced, loud noises.

It’s like those guys in shitty Hondas with racing mufflers

last saffron
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ye

boreal rivet
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Clicky deniers stay losing

last saffron
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tbh what are good key cap profile for gaming/typing

magic wolf
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So honestly I can dig it here for this guy

boreal rivet
magic wolf
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It’s personal

crisp patrol
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really anything normal is fine

magic wolf
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After OEM I jump to ODM, which are slim low profile

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Then took a rocket ship straight to SA

crisp patrol
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yup I have oem profile

magic wolf
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Once you tried low profile vs tall profile side to side you can see keyboard profile and understand what you’re getting

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Profile’d

last saffron
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ye

magic wolf
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The difference in backspaces are even funnier

last saffron
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i should of got an iso keyboard

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shit

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but i dont think they make the monsgeek m3 as a iso

magic wolf
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In theory it can make better sense. Your pinky is the usual hitting the return key from a vertical motion

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And iso is just that

last saffron
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ive had ansi keyboards before

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but im more used to iso layout

magic wolf
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That’s a kinda change you can get used to / switch between pretty easily

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I’d go with ansi just for keycap compatibility

last saffron
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true

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cost me like 113 off ali express the monsgeek m3 hotswap base

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like 94 pounds plus 18.98 in uk taxes

magic wolf
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Don’t know anything about viable bases. I just got a keychron cause it advertises VIA compatibility

last saffron
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via ?

magic wolf
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Diddnt expect a keyboard to weigh a brick but was pleasant surprise

Via. Its webapp keybinding

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No software needed

last saffron
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ah

magic wolf
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On Linux proprietary peripherals are terrible experience

last saffron
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ye

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i use oem keycaps

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and i already use a wrist rest

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i tend to like having the keyboard close for when i type with two fingers

sonic cape
bitter oar
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finally another budget keyb is here the aula f75

boreal rivet
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please, keep telling me more about a keyboard you didn't have until today

vagrant coral
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I put a keyboard in my case

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Its now my audio visualizer

undone delta
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new nzxt keyboard arrived

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😄

bitter oar
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Sounds better inrl

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Phone mic is trash

undone delta
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but you modded it 😄

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cuz that aint stock

bitter oar
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Stock apart from me partially taking up bit of lube from the right spacebar stabilizer due for it making from weird sound

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Just my unit

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I didn't lube the stabs or smth, it's stock

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they came prelubed

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they tick slighly, the backspace is a bit mushy and thats about it. it doesnt support pcb mounted stabd and its north facing. but, what do you ask for 30 bucks

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you wont notice the ticking at all when typing

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it also supports wireless 2.4 and bt

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4000mah battery

vagrant eagle
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E-Yooso Z11T and Roccat Burst Core

bitter oar
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the shape is good but, the switches are kinda hit or miss

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theyre pretty inconsistent sound wise

vagrant eagle
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I kinda dislike the texture, not great with sweat

vagrant eagle
bitter oar
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the rubber cable is horrible tbh \

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one of the stiffer rubber cables

vagrant eagle
bitter oar
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my unit doesnt have much pre travel nor post travel

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more pre travel but it is well within fine range

vagrant eagle
bitter oar
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yeah and the 30 buck keyboard has pbt keycaps

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and the legends are crisp, very little fuzzines

vagrant eagle
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How long was the shipping?

vagrant eagle
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Has a knob too

bitter oar
vagrant eagle
bitter oar
vagrant eagle
bitter oar
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it doesnt just come off when you pull it a little

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also, it has more gear stebs

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its aula x epomaker

bitter oar
vagrant eagle
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Yeah

bitter oar
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not even 5 pin switch support

vagrant eagle
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I have one and it's very pingy

bitter oar
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how much weight btw

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this one weights 996g

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so, 1kg

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its filled with like 5 layers of foam

vagrant eagle
bitter oar
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also, it came with a switch/keycap puller and extra 2 switches

vagrant eagle
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Also sounds very pingy

last saffron
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for my first build i went with a monsgeek m3

bitter oar
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its just poppy thats all

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poppy, creamy and bit marbly

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but, not truly creamy

vagrant eagle
vagrant eagle
bitter oar
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ive had the infi75 and that was way more marbly

last saffron
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the monsgeek m3 is like almost 2kg

vagrant eagle
bitter oar
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nah, it is considered that to some extent

last saffron
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i paid 113 pounds, 18.98 of which was vat

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i got off ali express

bitter oar
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i paid around 100 for my m1

vagrant eagle
last saffron
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im not sure what the difference between the m3 and m1 is

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they are both tkl

bitter oar
last saffron
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okays

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ye i went m3 because i wanted a tkl

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ansi lay out but most key caps are ansi layout anyway

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even expensive ones are

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they are very few iso keycaps

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from what ive seen

bitter oar
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check aliexpress

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there are literally hundreds of keycap sets on ali for under 30 bucks

last saffron
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still unsure on profile

bitter oar
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xda

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asa, koa mmm

bitter oar
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atleast i dont get the feeling my fingers are getting chopped off whenever i miss a letter ever so slighly

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mmm

last saffron
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im used to oem keycaps

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im better off with cherrys then

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cherry pbt keycaps

bitter oar
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theyre fine

last saffron
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why

bitter oar
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okay mr money, why

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damn, so i happen to be very lucky that i didnt have a single cracked stem out of my 10 keycap sets

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also, even if they are partially cracked does that matter

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only cracked stems ive had tbh were on a bloody a board

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also, abs

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not pbt

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meh, dont make him buy overpriced pieces of plastic

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the cheap ass ali pbt keycaps are fine, wheres the issue

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man, youre recommending people razer keyboard for people that cant afford a topre board

vagrant eagle
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Nice car

bitter oar
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because it is hilarous

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"cant afford topre" "get razer"

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you prolly deleted that message

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i dont have mod logs lol

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yeah, just like the server link

last saffron
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razer are overpriced and i say that as someone whose had razer keyboards in the past

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plus their own switches are kalih clones

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ye

bitter oar
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man, call whatever you want but youve sent the link to me in my dms

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how did i get into the server thern?

last saffron
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now they use kalih clones ?

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i went with a clickier switch than blues

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box jades

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i like them

bitter oar
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clicky is my nightmare

last saffron
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plus i feel box navy would be too heavy

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i do want to save up and get the model m clones that company makes

crisp patrol
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yeah erm

last saffron
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with buckling springs

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or beam springs

bitter oar
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@patent belfry whats your opinion on the 30 buck keyboard

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mmm?

last saffron
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i go with clicky switches because it helps my autism with stimming

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brain go brrrrr

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box jades in monsgeek m3 metal case

vagrant eagle
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You know it 🤝

last saffron
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i think it might come with two foam layers

bitter oar
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opinion though

last saffron
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additional case foam to prevent that hollow pinging noise

bitter oar
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may i ask for sound test

last saffron
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ye

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they do sell accessories to force break the thing

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ye

bitter oar
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...

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youre telling me that sounds good

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the stabs are horrendous

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and?

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mine isnt?

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or the f75 whatever

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its stock duh

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also, opening screwless body is hell

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also, the stock filling is fine, why would i mod it

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it is, held by clips

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you have to pry

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tyo open it

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the f75

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duh

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also, why would you open it anyway

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it doesnt even support pcb mounted stabs, and tape mod wouldnt do that much of a difference anyways

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to the f75

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it sounds way better than your stock garbage youve pulled from ebay

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what? ru telling me people with topre keyboards gain +100% knowledge and the rest is stupid?

radiant jetty
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man i love witnessing arguments

bitter oar
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uh youve been recommending topre to everyone who has asked for a kb past month

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and if they were off a budget, you either recommended used, razer keyboard or get nothing

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sure, sure

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wym

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yeah, just search yourself saying topre

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hhkb

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also, id like the answer i was asking you multiple times, whats wrong with those budget keyboards?

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youve said theyre trash

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its not 2021 duh

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hhkb doesnt cost 30 bucks

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say, whats wrong with the f75

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apart from, not supporting pcb mounted stabs, north facing leds

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you keep saying theyre trash and wont even state the reason

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and that makes it trash?

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at what exactly garbage

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north facing leds dont matter much unless you care about rgb and the inference between cherry keycap profile and switches which the step goes fully into the housing

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it doesnt support pcb mounted stabs but... does that even matter of a $30 keyboard

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if a newbie wants better stabd he would have to buy lube, which costs something too unsurprisingly

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also, do you expect via/qmk on a $30 board? most people don't even know what that is

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its not necessary aswell

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recommend me a better $30 keyboard if you know

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even the switches on the $30 board dont suck, and the pre-lube inside them isnt totally dried

crisp patrol
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a consistent nice ping is 🤌

boreal rivet
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Wouldn’t have to think of such unnecessary things with a realforce

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😃

crisp patrol
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only have tried a pro3 so far and I hated it

boreal rivet
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Sorry I love this gif

bitter oar
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do these make the keyboard a trash?

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unusable?

boreal rivet
bitter oar
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so, it becomes trash because it doesn't support south facing sockets? what the fuck

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do you even know what that is

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you seem to have no idea, trash on north facing sockets or just troll

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there's nothing wrong with north facing sockets apart from the rgb part and certain incompatibilities

last saffron
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gmk keycaps any good ?

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also what are mt3 and msa keycap profiles

crisp patrol
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are those space invaders switches in your pfp

bitter oar
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nah, he just agrees on everything upon you say

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even if it's wrong

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you two pretend like it's a total deal breaker that it doesn't support south facing leds, it's not bruh

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trolls.

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most, i mean literally most keyboards at this range don't even support hotswap sockets at all

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nor a knob, nor gasket mount, not prelubed switches, more than one layer of foam

cunning anvil
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loving the lesovoz vibes this gives off

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too bad its northpaw ball 😔

bitter oar
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Omg

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I'm not mad at you for it being meh for you

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Because you're recommending shit expensive stuff for people that can't afford them

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You don't understand the term budget?

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$30 and $100 is atleast 333%* difference

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If they ask you for a $30 keyboard you give em' $100 option, that's not how you're supposted to do that

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If you'd do "invest" to every single component in your pc you're building for example, you'd not end up with a $600 pc at the end but, $2000

crisp patrol
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only 5 doll hairs

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if you're doing budget then membrane/chiclet is king

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chiclet especially

bitter oar
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I've never told anyone budget keyboards are literally the best. I say they're very suffiecent for them or good enough that the stabs in the don't sound like rattlesnake or you feel like you're pressing a literal mushroom

crisp patrol
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tru

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desolder for ez profit

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I need to try those

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only like 180 for 60

bitter oar
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Uhh, because it is better than your avg razer keyboard or your membrane corsair kb from 2016

crisp patrol
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the dell membrane keeb I use at my workplace rn is surprisingly nice

bitter oar
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I wonder if you ever had a razer keyboard and not just your cherry boards and a hhkb

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Sponsor ships, they don't care

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Yeah, clearly. In thier marketting

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i doubt most of them even know what 8Khz mice do

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If they spend $200 on a razer keyboard why not $200 on a custom keyboard that sounds way better

bitter oar
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Because you ignore the term (max budget) , or what they ask for

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Most people can't afford even $30 keyboard

crisp patrol
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going mech on a budget is mad dented

crisp patrol
bitter oar
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Can you give me the sound test of the stabs on the razer keyboards

crisp patrol
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I don't fiddle with trash

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@patent belfry what do you think about alps stabs

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I love them so far

bitter oar
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Like stock stab performance..

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But, don't you still own the stabs

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Or did you throw them away

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You can use them on other keyboard as far as i know

crisp patrol
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same

bitter oar
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Not plate mounted?

cunning anvil
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gh60 a good case?

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thinking of designing a 60

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then again what even is the overlap between 60s users and people that are willing to solder

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maybe the ortho crowd

bitter oar
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Newest is blackwidow v4

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Better stabilizer job, and costs almost twice as much aswell (when the huntsmans are at sale)

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Idk, sounds like any gaming keyboard

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Membrane? Thanks

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What if you don't want used keyboard?

cunning anvil
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documentation on gh60 is kinda bleh

bitter oar
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Lube also costs something

cunning anvil
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anyone got dimensions

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found

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ah?

bitter oar
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Also, how will the keycaps on a 2014 keyboard look after all the years of use (abs keycaps)

cunning anvil
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15x5 seems to be the size

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yeah ill prob rip the mounting hole locations and see if i can make something... been itching to make a through hole keyboard

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mildly

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not pretty

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i went down to 40s for smol boards, then ended up picking up keyboard design from there, now im going back up to make a 60 lol

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mostly spend my time doing silly things,

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ive made a few integrated ones, but through hole is my preferred

bitter oar
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Nop

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Cherry profile?

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Yeah... i'd rather cop a set from ali

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Do they have other profiles than cherry/oem

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Like xda, sa or such

bitter oar
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what’s your opinion on the ajazz ak820 pro (it does support south facing leds)

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is there anything wrong with it

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$50

crisp patrol
bitter oar
crisp patrol
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most important at the top and least at the bottom

Keyfeel - price
Sound - modularity
Looks - RGB - connectors

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simple as that

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although it's pretty dumbed down

bitter oar
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i mean… look up the convo we had

crisp patrol
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mech keebs under 50 aren't gonna do any of those good besides price and rgb

crisp patrol
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linears 😭

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probably as inconsistent as any other dogshit mx red board

bitter oar
bitter oar
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stabilizer testo

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you not like foam

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try the stabs individually

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/test

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uh, i didn’t need nitro to upload those two sound tests

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tbh, you don’t need high res to record a sound test

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sounds good

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how many mods

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so just lube

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mmmm

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processing mmmmm

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now i want some mmm’s

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what’s that site

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oh

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is that part of alibaba group or nah

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i haven’t personally used xianyu once

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temped now

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tho, i don’t have foam nor a spare tkl pcb

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and well, i’d be more difficult than that

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mmm

boreal rivet
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Literally couldn’t care less about anything related to mx

crisp patrol
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hot

last saffron
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are gmk keycaps good ?

bitter oar
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yeah, they are good if you can afford them

last saffron
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hmmm i dunno tbh ive wating for money to come through atm

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and ive been trying to find keycaps i like the look of mainly

bitter oar
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check aliexpress, you can find hundreds of keycaps there

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at $20

last saffron
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ye

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im half tempted to just buy a few different sets to see what i like

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in terms of profile

bitter oar
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try xda/koa/moa/asa or such, can’t go much wrong with these

last saffron
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ye

cunning plume
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what keycap are you using? I really like the gray and blue comb. Better than the keycaps I have right now.

boreal rivet
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gmk space cadet 2

cunning plume
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dang they're expensive

tame briar
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hi, since I got keychron q6 my every other (even if decent) keyboard feels like trash, what do i do? : \

boreal rivet
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buy a realforce

tame briar
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are those membrane?

boreal rivet
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no?

bitter oar
boreal rivet
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because its better 👍

bitter oar
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at what exactly

bitter oar
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or, you don’t prefer the full size?

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what’s wrong with it that you want to replace it

tame briar
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i never said that i want to replace it

bitter oar
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well, uh, then to which keyboards are you comparing the q6

boreal rivet
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how many times must i repeat this to you

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are you stupid or just wilfully ignorant

bitter oar
boreal rivet
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so you're stupid

bitter oar
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if ones of your mechanical switches break you replace it with ease

#

you’re missing the point of hotswap sockets

boreal rivet
#

and you're missing the point of topre doesn't break 🤷

bitter oar
boreal rivet
#

uh ok how about 0$ a switch because it never breaks

bitter oar
boreal rivet
#

like are you just dumb or what

bitter oar
#

your logic makes like sub 0 sense

boreal rivet
#

anyway i'll leave it at that

bitter oar
boreal rivet
#

no time to entertain yo stupid ass rn

bitter oar
#

i’ve literally once broke a switch and that was totally my fault

bitter oar
#

you think everything that’s not topre instantly breaks after reaching 10 year threshold

#

man, you’re just straight up wrong and can’t admit it

#

topre is not king and cope with it

#

it’s your fucking preference

#

not what other want/need

#

the $30 keyboard comes with two extra switches btw

#

even if one broke you can simply replace it for free

#

and even if they all broke over time, at that point you can get full board covered with switches and that’d be still way cheaper than your topre board

#

you will find any keyboards 50 years later on ebay not just topre lol?

#

also, that there are topre boards on ebay doesn’t mean any of them didn’t broke

#

at most i can admit they have unique feel otherwise not worth it.

#

and not everyone has access to used topre on the market

tame briar
#

you are not able to wear-out cheapest mechanical keyboard in your lifetime

#

so yeah

#

you will destroy that keyboard 20 times with spilling drinks on it before you can get the switch to die on you

#

this whole channel is likely unreasonable, because getting keyboard that costs more than $50-80 is only for having fun, which is okay

#

but arguing that one is MORE DURABLE than the other is just silly, we all overpaid for something we could get for $10

magic wolf
#

Tryna think what makes a holee mod better than just a layer of teflon or bandaid around the tips

#

They both achieve the same thing

#

One is just way harder to do

magic wolf
#

You’re far less likely to be so violent right?

#

It’s technically not wrong

#

I dare you to beat that argument

slender tide
#

Can someone find me a free keyboard

pliant reef
#

@patent belfry after i pay for shipping on superbuy i dont have to do anything else right?

#

my keyboard is waiting for a pickup since 3 days

bitter oar
#

from all my keyboards (expect for some literal ewaste) none broke

magic wolf
#

or even better

#

dont play games that make you violent

#

ironic coming from a lol player but still

bitter oar
#

tbh, i’ve raged more from stuff that hasn’t worked on windows than the gaming themself

magic wolf
#

I dont think keyboards "break" unless you yourself break it.

magic wolf
bitter oar
#

raged over that more than over any other game or all games i’ve played altogether

#

i didn’t smash my keyboard tho

pliant reef
#

👍🏿

chrome raft
#

What barebones keyboard should I buy?
70$ budget, TKL/75% with a knob
white, good amount of foam and quiet one

magic wolf
#

I shopped for barebones boards for weeks

#

its hard to not scam yourself

chrome raft
#

you got any suggestions?

chrome raft
magic wolf
#

yea, dont limit yourself to something without switches and caps for $20 less

chrome raft
#

idk if its good tbh

chrome raft
magic wolf
#

you get caps and switches for $20

chrome raft
bitter oar
magic wolf
#

barebones is a throttle

chrome raft
chrome raft
magic wolf
#

you gotta define whats good

#

cause

#

thats not objective take

bitter oar
magic wolf
#

you cant just say good and expect us to know what that means

chrome raft
#

is it such a problem?

magic wolf
#

uhhhhh

bitter oar
#

yeah… at that price range just get the hi75

#

it’s like $35 on taobao

chrome raft
bitter oar
#

i personally like plastic bodies

#

but alu >

#

steel >

chrome raft
bitter oar
#

even better steel mmmm

magic wolf
bitter oar
magic wolf
#

thats exactly my point

bitter oar
#

this $30 aula f75 weights rougly 1kg (996grams)

magic wolf
#

thats what I just said

bitter oar
#

yy

magic wolf
#

its not even weight thats a reason to like metal, its for feeling

#

heavy

bitter oar
#

for the soundz

magic wolf
#

"slaps the roof of car"

dat shit

#

good materials

chrome raft
#

wait
the GMMK ice white tkl not available for purchase anymore?

magic wolf
#

fuck gmmk

chrome raft
#

its gone from glorious' website and not even in amazon

magic wolf
#

most un-budget friendly

bitter oar
chrome raft
bitter oar
#

original gmmk was like $15~ few months back on sale

magic wolf
#

gmmk is the best thing you can find an electronics store, sure, but....

bitter oar
#

it’s shit but, not that bad value actually

bitter oar
#

with modding

magic wolf
#

yea, best of the worst kinda thing

bitter oar
#

i’d def not pay $80 for either the gmmk or 2

magic wolf
#

yea before I got into this I got the 2

#

I keep thinking about how much I paid for it

#

and where I could be now

chrome raft
bitter oar
#

i had the gmmk 2 too

magic wolf
#

cmere bro gimmie a hug

bitter oar
#

unfortunaly i popped out a hotswap socket

#

it was hell pain to mod just to find out that haha

chrome raft
#

ye

#

Im just so confused

magic wolf
#

its really surprising when you get something that advertises itself as customizable, how shit the end result can still be

bitter oar
magic wolf
magic wolf
#

theres a screw in a very stupid spot....

bitter oar
#

yes, i applied more pressure than i should’ve, and the pins we’re bent but, still too easy to pop up

magic wolf
#

same thing

chrome raft
magic wolf
#

bro

#

how do you still not get it, ive talked to you like 3 times now

#

theres no objective benchmark for keyboards

bitter oar
#

they’re using some glorious sockets, look like rebranded kailh sockets to me

magic wolf
#

we can tell you what we used, but we cant say whats better or worse

chrome raft
#

thanks

magic wolf
#

its extremely personal

magic wolf
bitter oar
#

first pain in the -, i had to file down some stuff ot fit in tx stabs

magic wolf
#

I dont have my board anymre but arnt the LEDs north face?

#

lmfao

#

had to go full wood shop on the gmmk

bitter oar
#

i meant the sockets*

magic wolf
#

I wasnt aware the sockets were even an assembly that....came out of a pcb

#

I, cant join you too much in this down to the specifics, I diddnt know keyboard youtube videos existed when I had mine

#

so I diddnt open mine up much

bitter oar
#

wat

#

north facing leds are fine lol…

#

literally just these two things:
interference with certain caps + switches
rgb

#

by certain i mean basicly just cherry

#

i don’t care on a $30 board
it doesn’t matter
yes, i’d like south facing leds

#

still better than no 5pin hoswap sockets

#

so, go through the pain of clipping all the switch legs

#

ah yes so…

#

ru telling me that’s not big of a deal… but, north facing leds are?

#

literaly fix to your inteference issue:
don’t get cherry keycap profile
don’t get switches which pole’s goes all the way into the switch
problem solved

#

either one of those and you’ll not see the issue at all

#

aren’t mx blacks like one of the switches that go full into the housing

#

you probably hate north facing leds because of that

#

this $30 board has cherry keycap profile keycaps and north facing leds, not interference at all because the stem doesn’t go all the way in

#

literally, just don’t get cherry profile or different switches

magic wolf
#

Lube your cap hole

#

LOL

#

AYO TOBER

#

Jesus just the murder the man

bitter oar
#

ee?

magic wolf
#

Cold blood

#

Goddamn

bitter oar
#

man you just call all of my argument garbage without a reasonable reason

#

why do you hate north facing leds again?

#

apart from the interference issue

#

and rgb

#

atleast we agree on that

#

use different switches god damn

magic wolf
#

Oh you guys are all typing so fast I’m on mobile cause I’m recovering from the handcramper

bitter oar
#

i’m not telling him to switch to north facing leds nor that they’re better.
yes, south facing is superior
but, north facing isn’t “total unusable garbage”

#

for most people*

magic wolf
#

You won’t die on the streets if you already have north facing but it’s a major cope to not say it’s objectively bad that they are

#

Unless you’re kve who just got killed in the streets for it

bitter oar
#
  • with specific switchey
magic wolf
#

💀

bitter oar
#

it is what it is, it’s used because of the previous shine thru keycap favoritism

magic wolf
#

That makes it, factually, worse

#

Compensating for it, is what you need to do. Saying it’s fine is cope

bitter oar
#

it’s probably cheaper to produce even if by few cents

#

for them to produce

#

ru sure

magic wolf
#

I wonder if proprietary gamer keyboards are more expensive to produce, $160 is average price for steelseries / razer shit and those are anything but standard

#

Invalid point

boreal rivet
#

nah it must be the extra copper from the longer traces needed to switch the orientation

#

yall just don't get it

#

real

magic wolf
#

Mmm pcb traces, so much money in these I better start tearing mine open rn

#

Imagine walking down the streets and you see a man picking at the pcb traces

boreal rivet
#

dinky i think

#

dude obviously cares alot about this

magic wolf
#

Can you steal someone’s breaker box?

boreal rivet
#

and it HAS to be on taobao

#

nevermind that most people cba to buy from there

bitter oar
#

idk man, y’all make like it matters on low end custom keyboards…
be happy that it even has hotswap sockets and it’s not just soldered

boreal rivet
#

back in my day learning soldering was a requirement for custom keyboards 🧓

magic wolf
bitter oar
#

north facing leds prolly because they wnat you to buy a higher end board, it could be even that simple

magic wolf
#

Back then keyboards diddnt have LEDs

#

Take me back

#

Oh….

#

BASED

bitter oar
#

gibe us dual facing leds

#

lmao

#

why no gimmicks

magic wolf
#

Rainbow barf is one of the worst things to happen to consumer computers as a whole

bitter oar
#

X shaped hotswap sockets’d be hilarous

#

basicly, but mechanical, also, how would 2 way sockets take functionallity

magic wolf
#

Im glad you enjoy it but

bitter oar
#

even more cursed, be able to put your switches sideways cause why nit

magic wolf
#

Jesus how are you even alive with the lights off

main narwhal
#

i don't actually use those boards that often kek

#

I can't, it hurts my eyes.

magic wolf
#

It makes for a funny meme tho

#

I wanna give you credit that was good timing

main narwhal
#

all of the boards I daily drive except for one don't have LEDs at all kek

magic wolf
#

It’s at the point now where you pretty much can’t consent to having them or not

bitter oar
#

anyways, north facing leds won’t make the whole board a garbage, maybe for you but, average person looking for a keyboard doesn’t even know what hotswap is

magic wolf
#

I’m unironically gonna find a way to disable my Corsair rams RGB, permanently…..

boreal rivet
#

average person should just buy a realforce anyway

bitter oar
#

then wat

boreal rivet
#

or buy a hhkb

magic wolf
#

Here we go again

main narwhal
boreal rivet
#

and stand the chance to be awarded the title of hhkb evangelist

magic wolf
bitter oar
boreal rivet
#

you mean memchanical?

#

yes from razer

bitter oar
#

how gut or bad it was

magic wolf
#

Why buy gamer gear

bitter oar
magic wolf
#

Software*

boreal rivet
#

typical membrane rubberdome with a slight sharp bump from the leafspring

bitter oar
magic wolf
#

Looks to me that the products are cheap bullshit and you’re actually paying for software

#

Sure yea but don’t ask questions like that

bitter oar
#

ah yes, pay for you data to be collected and your ram being eaten up by synapse

magic wolf
#

Honestly it’s mostly just rebind capabilities, I’m still struggling to find an all in one solution that isn’t autohotkey for stuff

#

On Linux Hyprland has that built in for every function you can imagine

bitter oar
#

man, why do the softwares fucking eat like 300mb of ram each

magic wolf
#

Windows is a bit more…uh hard

main narwhal
#

VIA/VIAL mostly does what Synapse is able to do if you just wanted everything packaged into a GUI.

boreal rivet
#

literally just set your shit and uninstall it?

main narwhal
#

The on-the-fly macro stuff isn't as robust or flexible, but it exists.

magic wolf
bitter oar
main narwhal
#

No.

#

It's through a GUI.

#

The only disadvantage it has over Synapse is that it can only do keystrokes and not actual commands.

magic wolf
#

The thing about via, is…..say you’re in the middle of a project, and you think, oh snap, I could totally automate this shortcut, so then you gotta bust out the .json and its project you start on top of a project

main narwhal
#

It's browser-based now.

#

If you are using something already in the database, you just load the website and change it.

magic wolf
#

On windows the closest thing we can do is powertoys, and with via set F13-24 on a layer, and make powertoys execute the combo

main narwhal
#

It can do keystroke combos.

magic wolf
#

Without manual map editing

#

?

main narwhal
#

It just can't do anything that requires code.

magic wolf
#

I wouldn’t expect system integration as fun as that is

#

You should see my hyprland config

#

Anyway if I can even cut out powertoys that would be great

#

As long as it’s as simple as you say

main narwhal
magic wolf
#

Ahhh, yeah I messed with that

main narwhal
#

You either record the macro, or you use QMK code to type it in.

magic wolf
#

Can’t trim out the delays

main narwhal
#

If you don't want delays, you can just code it in.

#

with the </> button, which brings up a textbox

magic wolf
#

I’m a little busy to bust that out rn, but if that comes to actually be the case, I’m….thankful lol

#

Cause that’s sick

main narwhal
#

Which, VIA can't record delays in the first place.

#

Oh, now it can.

#

But anyway, once you record it, you click on the text box and it brings up the macro in an edditable format.

magic wolf
#

It’s open source I bet it moves quick with stuff like this

main narwhal
#

VIAL exists partially because VIA didn't move quickly.

#

And I'm not sure if VIA is technically open source.

#

It wasn't meant to be.

magic wolf
#

I had to install vial for it to work for me. Keep coming back to via. The interface is better

#

Being an electron app

#

It has to be hosted

#

But

#

You could totally do your own, just way too excessive

#

It’s already grounded on QMK, so

#

By all means is open source

#

Arnt you a wizard

main narwhal
#

VIA was developed originally to only work with Wilbatech PCBs

magic wolf
#

Yeah QMK lists like 4 boards for compatibility on their main page

#

Community did the rest

main narwhal
#

It's handled by a very small team, push requests to get jsons approved to the main branch of VIA take awhile.

#

Might be one person.

magic wolf
#

Thank god for precompiled firmware, it was rough learning how to just flash

main narwhal
#

It's way easier to get into QMK proper now, I don't know when you tried last.

#

They've bundled everything into a single installer.

magic wolf
#

Had QMK configurator. No problem. At least now. Still was a…..couple hours to really get into

#

On Linux you still do everything via shell

#

And have udev rules to contend with if you’re using a webapp to config

main narwhal
#

Configurator can't handle more complicated things, so I mostly do everything through shell.

magic wolf
#

I look at a key map file, and nope out

#

It’s just a little too much for me rn

main narwhal
#

I imagine that may have been different if I got into keyboards now instead of when I did.

magic wolf
#

It’s like that for everything, consumer computers

#

MAN DOWN MAN DOWN

#

The handcramper takes another one

bitter oar
#

is that everglide aqua king bottom housing

#

(my guess)

magic wolf
#

It’s fine, maybe, we’ll see soon. But I have the shittiest switch puller

#

Need to get one of those pimp sticks

magic wolf
bitter oar
#

sad

main narwhal
#

I use IC pullers, though you might have to sand down the teeth a little on some of them.

bitter oar
#

fr want some more gat milky yellow 47x’s

magic wolf
main narwhal
magic wolf
#

Ok wow you must have really thin ones

main narwhal
#

It's fine after you sand down the teeth.

#

But they do sell thin ones now.

magic wolf
#

I work in board manufacturing I could prob steal one

#

If….small enough ofc

#

If it’s a 4 baller bga I have no idea what we do

main narwhal
#

It's only an issue with high profile boards, they sometimes have problems getting in between the side of the case and the switch unless you file down the teeth.

magic wolf
#

I’m having that problem and right now the least of my problems

#

My finger has cramped twice today

main narwhal
#

Swipe an IC puller then.

magic wolf
#

I was shopping around online lately for new caps and was hoping someone came along with a suggestion of what they liked by hey nothing beats free

#

Thanks

main narwhal
#

If you look on amazon, you'll see thinner ones like this that work well in getting in those tighter spaces.

magic wolf
#

So I just understood why you sand them down……

#

They’re thin enough to go straight thru the clip

bold warren
#

thoughts on clear keycaps? I just wanna see people's opinions and point of view

main narwhal
#

if you like them u like them

bold warren
#

do you really need to have those clear switches in order to enjoy them?

main narwhal
#

up to you

#

If you like the look, you like the look lol

#

it's all preference

magic wolf
#

Nah I got hundreds of these things at work, thanks tho

bold warren
#

Are there normal RGB (RGB light is kind of dimmed) keyboards and keyboards built for RGB (brighter lights and color)? Or RGB are all the same? Sorry odd question

last saffron
#

are MT3 keycaps good ?

main narwhal
#

they scoopy

#

if you don't like the ideas of all your keycaps being lil bowls

#

you prolly won't like it

crisp patrol
last saffron
#

im thinking of getting some cherry profiles

crisp patrol
#

not really

#

I've got a steezy60 build and that's about all

#

indeed

#

running a slightly different from normal hhkb layout on it

#

no photo of it fully built

#

I keep forgetting to take one

#

rn it's in a cheap alu case but I'll be CNCing a proper one eventually

last saffron
#

i bought a monsgeek m3 case

crisp patrol
#

perhaps

#

yes

jolly sorrel
#

any recomendations for a 75% purple keyboard with creamy switches?
preferebly hotswappable (5pin?)

magic wolf
#

wtf is creamy

#

god I see so many people....

jolly sorrel
#

the sound a switch can make?

#

linear/silent/creamy/etc?

crisp patrol
jolly sorrel
#

what

crisp patrol
#

that makes zero sense

magic wolf
#

ok, I found out what marbly is

#

but creamy is not a thing

boreal rivet
#

I think the word you’re looking for is creacky

magic wolf
#

its a thing if you wanna hear a...mediocre keyboard clickbaited with an onomatopea or however its spelt

#

its like thock was before it was defined relatively low pitch focused sound

#

like that shit I get, but creamy just sounds homo

#

man, this whole, funny word thing on social media is gonna seriously mess with peoples expectations

crisp patrol
#

normal classifications > dumb terms

last saffron
#

are mintcaps a good keycap brand

faint bramble
#

guys does anyone knows how to fix this?
i cant press shift+a together (both shifts)
i only can press them at windows startup then something turns on and mess up my keyboard

long time ago i installed a program that reduces keyboard's latency i wonder if that messed up the registry files

chrome raft
#

Should I buy switches and a plate off Aliexpress?

sonic cape
#

i used to do that all the time

chrome raft
sonic cape
#

nah

#

i've bought over 500 switches from ali and only maybe

#

2 were dead

#

like really broken

chrome raft
sonic cape
#

yeah no need to worry

chrome raft
#

btw
You only need the plate, switches, and keycaps to complete a keyboard right?

sonic cape
#

whqt keyboard you have,

#

?

#

or at least what case

chrome raft
#

currently a membrane
but im looking for a custom one

sonic cape
#

you need

#

case,plate,pcb,switches,stabs,

#

and ideally case foam

chrome raft
#

I thought about TH80 PRO barebones
the switches will be probably the EpoMaker sea salt silent switch
and keycaps something like double shot PBT

chrome raft
sonic cape
#

it's barebones?

chrome raft
sonic cape
#

is often

#

all without switches and keycaps

chrome raft
#

i think so
ill send the link, sec

sonic cape
#

sometimes with or without stabs

#

ye

chrome raft
sonic cape
#

Yeah

#

for this sou only need

#

switches and keycaps

chrome raft
#

great

sonic cape
#

stabs are pre installed

chrome raft
#

sounds good
If i want to make the keyboard more quiet/deep sound
will I have to tape/foam mod it?

sonic cape
#

you can

#

it depends if you want to

chrome raft
sonic cape
#

that's subjective

#

if the keyboard is easy to take apart

#

but you just gotta be careful

chrome raft
#

alr that's all i needed to know
thank you (:

sonic cape
#

no worries

#

dm me if you need anything

chrome raft
#

😘

sonic cape
cunning anvil
#

??

#

love ali switches

#

idk anything about plates

last saffron
#

idk what keycap brands to go for

#

atleast budget to mid range because im not spending close to 100 and over 100 on keycaps

spiral mica
#

just choose a design that you like

#

look on aliexpress or something

last saffron
#

Are JakeTsai okay ?

#

Keycap maker

#

They are on amazon

#
#

I'm in the uk

#

Ye

#

Maybe

boreal rivet
#

average taobao reseller

bitter oar
#

ok

#

childish behaviour [^

#

ur clearly trying to provoke me how is that not obvious