peripherals

[boreal rivet]

Mid

Just a buy a realforce

[magic wolf]

I remember when I was making a purchase inquiry for this a few months ago

And you said that after I swiped the card

Then looked into those

And realized

I goofed

But hey I’m really deep into modding now which is fun

[safe temple]

Can you change the keycaps or it you get what you buy?

[magic wolf]

Uh

Have you tried pulling a cap off before

Asking other human beings

[boreal rivet]

Why not just buy silenced switches then

[magic wolf]

I do, but do you know how much quieter you can make a keyboard after that?

It’s so satisfying to type on a full blown mechanical quieter than any chiclet or membrane you’ve ever heard

I went from kailh silent tactiles to gateron ink v2s and next up id love to snag some bobagums

[boreal rivet]

🤦

[magic wolf]

You don’t know man

You just don’t know

And I’m going gentle on these reds

Here’s the kailh vs normal gateron pro reds

[bitter oar]

Mid too.

[boreal rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/a506-gif-20756721

[bitter oar]

do i see SA keycaps

[magic wolf]

Love SA

Don’t love grease magnet abs

[chrome raft]

Has anyone flimed before

I have kalix type switches and want to flim but idk which type to get 1.25mm or 0.15mm

[safe temple]

No

[fast apex]

Any good keyboard brands to buy a prebuilt one looking for anything besides a full size 100%

[boreal rivet]

Look at the message above

[fast apex]

perferably new soryr

[boreal rivet]

Your loss

[cunning anvil]

loud

[magic wolf]

I mean if you put a mic right up against an art farting the mic will push the gain way up to balance everything so

[cunning anvil]

ig

[pliant reef]

Should i put the foam under the silicon? Will that make a differnce

[magic wolf]

whats foam sound like

[agile minnow]

honestly i started prefering my old redragon keyboard when typing, the outemu blue switches on it have a tactile bump, the logitech blues do not

[magic wolf]

I’ll trade a little bad for silence tbh

Mom says I’ve got the realforce at home

Oh you don’t get the joke

“We have the x at home” meaning we have a shit alternative

It would’ve been funny if you got it

But you diddnt get it

Brain diff

[cunning anvil]

https://fosstodon.org/@petejohanson/111714131947412062

realfortho

realforty

[magic wolf]

If you could take that kinda thing, split it in half, and mount them to the end of your arm rests, I’d be interested. Otherwise god that looks so jank

[cunning anvil]

its just a chiffre lmao

If you wanna split there's the ec corne

[magic wolf]

Not that kb specifically I meant that form factor. Something about, that bend inwards.

Makes me uncomfy looking at it

[cunning anvil]

oh you'd hate reviung

i personally don't like angles that ain't 90

[magic wolf]

I’m not an ergo guy by any means but wouldn’t you want them going outwards rather than in?

[cunning anvil]

no?

elbows exist

confused

actually

[magic wolf]

This ec corne kinda deal

This has

Mad potential

If you can workflow without a mouse decently that is

[cunning anvil]

it's just a corne lol

[magic wolf]

This is new to me

And as far as I can tell, you say “just” like they’re common

[cunning anvil]

it kinda has like 10derivatives

hmm maybe i have been hanging too much in 40s

topre lily when

58

[magic wolf]

Whats a reasonable price for a corne setup that includes switches / doesn’t demand soldering

[cunning anvil]

what case

[magic wolf]

Im still on the front page of google trying to figure that out

[cunning anvil]

https://www.boardsource.xyz/products/unicorne

[magic wolf]

Bless your soul

Thanks

[cunning anvil]

there's also the gb ones

also note, not topre

splitkb also exists somewhere

[magic wolf]

This is a bit of cash for what I’d essentially want to test out. I’ll take a peek at the preowned market, but, the only real speed bump to these seems to just be layering numbers and symbols. And that’s cake

This is really interesting

This is like, “Vim, but with any posture you want”

[cunning anvil]

yeah splitkb might be better for that

unic is a premium version

i do also have one that's acrylic skeleton

atmega though

[manic crown]

hi, im looking for a keyboard with an ISO layout (or just the portuguese layout because of work) and low profile if possible. I was looking at the mx keys S from logitech and was wondering if that was the best option for my requirements? I just use it for work and light gaming (no fps games, mostly for flight sims, ets2, some multiplayer games on steam and gta v on occasion). I might be able to get it at 100 euros since thats what amazon is offering at the moment. Should I go ahead and purchase it or are there better options?

[oblique valve]

hey guys, how quiet are cherry brown switches? i currently have a keyboard with blue switches and my gf is quite annoyed about the noise

so currently searching for a quiet mechanical keyboard

preferably full layout

[magic wolf]

My brother in Christ let me tell you

I’m something of a silent keyboard enjoyer

[oblique valve]

then share your endless wisdom

[magic wolf]

If you wanna game while the lady is asleep with 0 issues

Cop yourself a Logitech mx3s for starters

[oblique valve]

what is the top one?

[magic wolf]

People always forget how nasty mouse pinging is

That is a lot of things

Can you pull a switch out of your current keyboard

[oblique valve]

nope

hyperx alloy elite

[magic wolf]

Bin that blue pos

[oblique valve]

i like the loud clícky clacky

but the miss doesnt

[magic wolf]

Do you like loud girlfriend cranky after no sleep

Exactly

Bin it

[oblique valve]

i will

i have it for 6 years now

[magic wolf]

Alright my disciple

Here’s what you’re gonna do

[oblique valve]

tell me master

[magic wolf]

Im struggling with the base part. Barebones are like, only $20 less than their fully built counterparts which is stupid

You open to the idea of getting your fingers covered in lube

?

[oblique valve]

i am a machinist

so thats a daily struggle for me

i am not open to the idea of soldering my own switches

just so you know

[oblique valve]

what switches does that top keyboard use?

[magic wolf]

Oh hell nah neither am I

Gateron Silent Black Ink v2 Switches 5pin RGB Linear Switch for DIY Mechanical Keyboards (108PCS, Silent Black Ink) https://a.co/d/5Bqddlm

These babies

But they don’t sound like that without a little loving

[unkempt dome]

Haimu silent are really good

[magic wolf]

^ if it’s a better deal by all means

[unkempt dome]

No idea about that tho

[magic wolf]

The hard part is recommending you a base cause. There’s a lot of options and for the most part it’s personal

If you just want a silent mechanical keyboard for the late night gaming sessions hit the preowned market for like, a GMMK2 for $50 or something

And get switches

But if you wanna embrace the silent superiority all day every day

Idk

Money

[oblique valve]

i want a model for german layout

also, i can use the keycaps i currently have right?

[magic wolf]

You’re better off doing the shopping. As long as it’s a plate mount / 5 pin hotswap you gaming. And yeah

Def

[oblique valve]

i will def come back to this but right now i have to walk the dog

ima send you a FR

[magic wolf]

I don’t help in DMs sorry

[oblique valve]

@magic wolf Fr was just so i know who you are XD also i am back

what are some websites to shop for keyboard parts?

[magic wolf]

It feels more worth your time if you’re adding to the search keywords in this discord

Like a knowledge base

You lower 48?

[oblique valve]

?

[magic wolf]

Websites depend where you’re from

[oblique valve]

what is lower 48?

[magic wolf]

It’s a term for mainland usa

[oblique valve]

ah

48 so minus hawai'i and alaska

but no, i am from austria

so european market is where its at

[magic wolf]

Oh then I don’t know lmao.

[oblique valve]

ok, but sites do you use

[magic wolf]

Keychron ships globally but the ogs here don’t like em

[oblique valve]

i can browse

and search in the european markets for the same thing

https://www.gateron.co/products/gateron-switch-tester-version-2 is that worth to get? so i know which to buy?

[magic wolf]

Just find a hotswap keyboard you like with south facing LEDs if you want rgb

as far as switches go I’ve only owned 2 different sets, and its parroting to just say shit I’ve never even used before

I love the silent ink v2 tho so

[oblique valve]

looking at this the gateron red are even quieter than the blacks you sent

[magic wolf]

Those are just normal blacks

Silent switches will be declared as silent switches

Because they add dampeners to the switch itself

[oblique valve]

https://www.gateron.co/products/gateron-ink-switch?variant=39977308717145

those are the ones you sent

also are those the same? https://www.amazon.de/Gateron-Switches-Linear-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B09PL6Z4L5?th=1

looks like it

[magic wolf]

Let me show you something

[oblique valve]

shoot

[magic wolf]

On top is a gateron red gpro

On the bottom is the silent ink v2

The only thing that makes a silent switch a silent switch, is those “pads” that look white, see them?

[oblique valve]

one the prongs there?

[magic wolf]

Otherwise, with linear switches, it’s mostly just housing material / combinations

[magic wolf]

Yeah, the white spots

[oblique valve]

so the bottom out gets dampend?

[magic wolf]

Quite significantly, remember that these come out of Asian markets so be certain what you’re buying is a silent switch if that’s what you want

[oblique valve]

aight

and for the shell, what are some brands/manufacturers to avoid

[magic wolf]

Gamer shit honestly

Razer / steelseries / asus / w/e

Besides that, it’s a personal taste thing as far as, material, price, form factor,

[oblique valve]

what shell do you have for you keyboard?

[magic wolf]

I started with a keychron q7, appealed to me for having a ton of utility keys, and comes with via firmware pre flashed

Thing is heavy as a brick too

[oblique valve]

thats good

[magic wolf]

Yes and no

[oblique valve]

i think so

[magic wolf]

Metal has a way of reverberating sound

But

There’s fun things you can do to deal with that

[oblique valve]

like a foam insert or smth?

[magic wolf]

I got a layer of this stuff in mine

Makes the gasket stiffer (sadly) but it is the most quiet thing I’ve tried

Most just use PE foam but most also just want to cut out the high end sounds from their keyboard too so

[pliant reef]

Do i habe to leave the green thing open when doing tape mod

[chrome raft]

Okay bro just go into another sever

Server

Like mechkeys

Or hipyo

And ask

Were not putting up with your dumbass

[chrome raft]

This is my pcb someone said i have to wire Z to L shift then back to the ND42

Or there no work around or I can just solder the bottom

[pliant reef]

You dont have to anwser if you dont want to

If you feel attacked by words just ignore them

Ive noticed that i can tape over it i couldnt find something like tht on yt

On my keyboard thats why i asked

[chrome raft]

Bro ur just trolling

[pliant reef]

Im just a beginner

[chrome raft]

Same here

Yet im not as dumb as u

[chrome raft]

Watch hipyo tech, switch and click and alexotos

[pliant reef]

Just put everything back on.
When i plug my keyboard in it lights up green but the keys dont work.

In bluetooth mode they work tho

[chrome raft]

U fried ur switches my dude

Or broke the solder

[pliant reef]

Sry what does TL;DR mean

Keyboard doesnt work, key presses dont register.

But if i plug my keyboard in the power light turns on.

But if i use it in bluetooth mode they key presses work as seen by the led in the video.

But i cant figure out how to connect bluetooth, doesnt seem to work either i guess

I will try rn after this round of warzone

Thanks for trying to help

[pliant reef]

I tried resetting with VIA, via only recognized my keyboard in bluetooth mode but i couldnt reset it.

fn + j + z should also reset the keyboard which of course dient work bc my keys dont register

[pliant reef]

No

[drifting mauve]

Theyre here!!!!

[magic wolf]

Italic legends

Pretty cool

[drifting mauve]

I'm trying to have based peripheral choices

[bitter oar]

you cant fry a switch lmao, its just metal parts making contact

[chrome raft]

Well this dumbass wouldn’t know

[chrome raft]

That font and placement 💀

[bitter oar]

i doubt he would find that on a budget pcb tbh

[chrome raft]

Chat

I just did penny mod

And

I think i became a nerd

I did the layout without looking at my phone

Is that normal as a keyboard enthusiast

[cunning anvil]

touch typing?

[magic wolf]

It would be more weird if you couldn’t as someone in our generation

[pliant reef]

Found it next to the space bar, says reset on it

[magic wolf]

Were the generation that replaced cursive with typing classes

[bitter oar]

wowie didnt expect that

try it but i dont think itll work personally

you very likely damaged the pcb

but try it

[chrome raft]

Not in canada

We gotta have cursive now

Till like gr12

And now gr13

[magic wolf]

Oh yeah, that’s gonna be real useful

[chrome raft]

but i think gr13 is optional

[magic wolf]

Good job Trudeau

[chrome raft]

Signture thats it

And already have one

[chrome raft]

Our economy

Im from toronto and i gotta say bro

Hes acc giving money to ukraine and not for canada

I mean bro its been like 7 years for the elignton subway station

[magic wolf]

I have no idea what you’re talking about I just like saying that when I hear about a Canada moment

[chrome raft]

Pretty sure if all ppl in Toronto decided one day in summer to get a shovel and fix it we will be done in a week

[chrome raft]

Fr

[pliant reef]

ok this might be a stupid question but do i have to press it while plugged in or out

[bitter oar]

press it while its on bt/wireless mode i believe, i may be wrong, check the manual

but i believe you dont need to have it plugged in

[chrome raft]

Check manual

[pliant reef]

what is a good pcb with hotswap and led and where can i buy one

[bitter oar]

id suggest just getting a new barebone kit right away

pcbs alone are kinda pricey to get

also, itll be better than the k8 pro

but wont support via likely

[pliant reef]

Ok like a whole keyboard or are the kits to build one

[bitter oar]

because cheap keyboards/pcbs dont

[bitter oar]

hi75, sugar65

[pliant reef]

Thx

[bitter oar]

there are far more barebone kits but, these two just came into my mind. do some research tbh

[pliant reef]

Yooo thats rllly cheap

[bitter oar]

yeah and good

full aluminium body

[pliant reef]

Should have done more research on kits rather on what keyboard i should buy

[pliant reef]

Thank you

[bitter oar]

which switches do you have

[pliant reef]

Ws morandi

[bitter oar]

sure, thatll do

[pliant reef]

Ultimatly i want a creamy schlaffy sound

[bitter oar]

aluminium keyboard with foam is creamy/marbly mid thock

plastic keyboard are more creamy tho

but, you do have to fill plastic keyboard with something to make it sound less hollow

[pliant reef]

Is the hi75 already modded or is it just the case with the pcb

[pliant reef]

Ill just use the silicon from my broken k8 and some foam i have layin around

And tape

[bitter oar]

its built barebone kit. just put in switches, keycaps and lube stabs if possible

[bitter oar]

the silicon pad may not be compatible tbh

with other keyboards

the plastic mold shapes are different

and standoffs

[pliant reef]

If i just cut the silicon to fit the case

[bitter oar]

id suggest just get the hi75

[pliant reef]

👍🏿

Any tkl kit you would recommend?

[bitter oar]

you dont need silicone pad for aluminium cases most of the time

[pliant reef]

Ok

[bitter oar]

probably monsgeek m3 if you manage to get one at a discount. itll be still more pricey than the hi75 tho and no knob if you prefer knobs

cant think of any tkl kit srry

100% there are but i dont know of any thats decent and at around $50

[pliant reef]

Ok thx

[chrome raft]

Whatsgeeks.com is it legit?

[harsh orchid]

Anyone know good cheap mx reds or anything that sounds like MX reds, looking for a TKL keyboard

[boreal rivet]

How did you manage to list two useless mfs and one of the most pretentious mfs in the hobby

Figure it out

You shouldn’t be talking like that if these people are your references

[chrome raft]

No im talking abt switch and click like sound switch video

And hipyos modding

And alexotos hardcoreness

[native berry]

Whats a good keyboard under $60 thats black

[chrome raft]

Ak820

[native berry]

oh ok

it says its available for pre order

[woven vector]

Idk anything about keyboards but what is a good budget 100% keyboard

[chrome raft]

Where r u looking on

[chrome raft]

Office keyboard

[woven vector]

Lets goooooooooo

[native berry]

the epomaker and the ajazzstore website

[chrome raft]

Ajazz is better

Epomaker is basically reseller

but epomaker does have free shipping

But i prefer ajazz cuz no preorder

[native berry]

ah ok

when will it be available on epomaker website

[native berry]

can you send a link please

[tardy ginkgo]

I'm looking for a mechanical backlit (don't really want rgb) keyboard under $60. Any suggestions?

[chrome raft]

Search ajazz ak820

[native berry]

also should i get the ak820 pro?

[chrome raft]

Press on the first link that pops up

[chrome raft]

It depends look at the features

[tardy ginkgo]

Also I don't want a 100%. Something smaller

[chrome raft]

Magee 60% only one color mod so just turn off the rgb

[tardy ginkgo]

I don't want loud switches and that one has blue switches. But other than that that keyboard looked great

Probably one with brown switches

[magic wolf]

based

[exotic light]

anyone knows any shine through keycaps that isnt side printed\

[tardy ginkgo]

I'll just look at their other keyboards

[chrome raft]

Just switch the options

There more

@magic wolf opinion on ak820

[magic wolf]

you'd be hardpressed to find that "mechanical keyboard" at that budget that are not obnixously clacky and loud

I give opinions on shit I know about

[chrome raft]

Oh

well then buy it and if u dont like give me for 99% off

And a oreo

[magic wolf]

honestly thats a pretty cool base

so cheap too

[magic wolf]

I'd love to see stuff like this replace razer and corsair shit that floods local store shelves everywhere, at that price they totally could too.

ight Ill give you my opinion. this thing checks all the boxes

[chrome raft]

Im pretty sure it has a shit case but saw sound test pretty decent

Then imma tape mod

Thats it

New stabs

New switches

New keycaps

[magic wolf]

its cool that its an actually budget kb that gives you the chance to do all that and not do some absurd shit for $140 like

this thing one sec

[chrome raft]

Total build cost around 150 cad

Acc 200

[magic wolf]

WHAT ARE THOOOOSE

[chrome raft]

THIS IS DEF SOME RAZER COLLAB

[late zinc]

literally says razer on the board

[chrome raft]

The switches im seeing r pre lubed

[magic wolf]

Let’s sell a keyboard more expensive than the ak820 but design it in a way that anyone interested in modding is stuck with their thumb in their ass

[chrome raft]

So the ak820 is good?

Bro the switches on amazon r so annoying

Pre lubed

I dont want that

I want back pain

[magic wolf]

It’s probably not exceptional at anything but it has all the things $2000 customs have. It seems like a super good way to start developing your tastes

[pliant reef]

anyone got any recomenndatino for a 75% / TKL Keyboard set,

am considering buying the hi75

[spiral mica]

depends on your budget

the hi75 and hi8 are both good budget board so if you like them go for it

[pliant reef]

like max 100 -105 bucks

[spiral mica]

yeah hi75/hi8 or monsgeek m1 on aliexpress

[pliant reef]

ok thx

[pliant reef]

any good ones in EU layout

german

[magic wolf]

I pulled that out of my ass

[cunning anvil]

huh

[cunning anvil]

oh ic, i thought you meant uniCORNE

til about unikorn

[chrome raft]

Hey
I need a switch recommendations, I'm looking for a Creamy, silent and deep switches, around 50$ for 90 switches
anybody got some?

[boreal heart]

How do I make my coiled cable tighter

[prime mirage]

Are Akko double shot pbt keycaps any good for $60?

Rn I have the default keychron ones that came with my board

[sudden flicker]

does anyone know where to find a 108 key iso pcb

[boreal heart]

wdym

[sudden flicker]

60 is quite expencive you can get a set of dubbleahot pbt's for 20~

[boreal heart]

then why tf u get it lol

for looks no?

what for then

[sudden flicker]

to have it always tight whilat still being able to increase distance a sort of slack whilst still having it tightly routed

[boreal heart]

oh

i didnt know

[sudden flicker]

its the same reason old phones had em

and tbh they look pretty bad

[boreal heart]

it kinda is now maybe it wasnt created for looks but people use it for looks now i think im not sure tho

[boreal heart]

ye i remember and old heasdphones too

[sudden flicker]

yes

[boreal heart]

ye and tiktok

[sudden flicker]

no they started beutifying them because of the use, and then copycats claim looks whilst being copiecats leading to a lack of understanding

and the airospace connector is because the connector would wear out so would need replacementa but the coil is the expencive part so you just replace the ends on it

but more expencive means more better to some, thats how nzxt grew

[boreal heart]

lmao

i like nzxt but its expensive for no reason that why i dont own any parts from them but i have all corsair so no difference lmao

[prime mirage]

What are the best ~$70 keycaps

[sudden flicker]

yea both are build on hype

[sudden flicker]

thats a high budget, get some that you think look cool and google how they sound, anything solid pbt dyesub or dubbleshot pbt is usualy a good bet, if you need shinetrue your gonna have limited options but you can still get some nice ones

like these are 70 bucks, and there quite unique as they are 75% pudding so production is expencive for em

meanwhile these are dubbleshot pbt's and there 20 or so bucks for a 136 key set (136 and 166 key sets have keys that may be different for different layouts like iso enter and shifts as well as 60% shift keys and enter keys)

keycaps are more a subjective thing you buy for how they look rather then sound, tho they may sound awfull due to being made of a thin abs or something, like spacebars may echo a bit at times

[prime mirage]

Yes but keycaps are also a HUGE part of a keyboard sound….

I’m leaning towards these because they look great and apparently are great quality and good sound

[sudden flicker]

the pbt vs abs or dubbleshot yes, but set to set not much

[prime mirage]

Ahhh okay that makes sense

[sudden flicker]

pbt and dubbleshot pbt are a relitively soft sound as they are a softer plastic then abs so they don't rattle as much abs sets do, tho some switches use a pom cover so then it doesn't matter as much

[prime mirage]

I’m pretty sure set to set matters a lot like how thick the plastic is and all that..

[sudden flicker]

depends on price, akko caps are fine, so long as your not paying to much

[prime mirage]

Now I am no expert but I know enough to be confident in saying that

Yes but having too thin also isn’t good

[prime mirage]

So are these Akko ones worth the $60?

[sudden flicker]

it can, but usualy not that significant, unless you grab an expencive set that is weight ballenced vs a cheap set thats thin sure, but usualy within price bracket its fine

[sudden flicker]

maybe 35 at best but not 60

[prime mirage]

[sudden flicker]

pbt, pbt is a plastic as far as my understanding goes just as abs is, altho dubbleshot as far as i understand just means there were 2 injections

[prime mirage]

Blud took time to google it

[manic crown]

Is there an ISO alternative to the NuPhy Air75 V2?
i.e low profile, not that expensive and actually looks good

[sudden flicker]

weightballenced is reffering more to part production matterials at a set thicness should have a set weight if its not in that weight it would mean its not evenly thick far less time consuming then mesuring

[sudden flicker]

no to check my spelling on what i was saying before it

its done in a lot of expencive parts, where after its ejected from the mold and finnished its done on the belt and ejected from it if it fails, and if the fails exceed a certain % it will shut down the line for inspection

and they wear out and are imperfect quite often

[prime mirage]

Ikr now I’m getting a speach of how they are allegedly made

Preferable $70 or less

If needed I can go higher

K thanks for the help and actually getting to the point

[sudden flicker]

i never said its used for caps, i said in plastic parts, usualy more expencive ones

[prime mirage]

Bet

[manic crown]

which of these switches are the quietest?

[crisp patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/654893060597219369.webp?size=48&name=CringeHarold&quality=lossless

[manic crown]

yeah, i know but of those which are the most silent?

i do plan on buying them

hmm alright

so of those, which feel nice and have a nice clicky sound that aren't that loud?

or just which should I go with?

[manic crown]

of these switches

yeah i know, i saw your messages. im just asking of the ones they are asking me to choose which of those feel nice, have a nice sound but that don't sound annoying

[crisp patrol]

mx silencing isn't even that great iirc

doesn't it only silent downstrokes

[cunning anvil]

idk what this means

[pliant reef]

Is there any retailer selling the hi75 thats not in china

I have to pay 40 dollars shipping fee in every shop

Am from switzerland

[pliant reef]

thx

thank you men

@patent belfry wtf is a shaft name, i just want the basic diy white version with rgb

[pliant reef]

👍🏿

do i need to pay delivery fees later?

[dull minnow]

Is getting a k617 worth the extra 10 to gettting a generic keyboard and why?

[pliant reef]

ahhh i have to organize the delivery myself

ok shipping fee is still like 30 bucks

but the keyboard is way cheaper

[pliant reef]

did a shipping calculation so its just an estimate

thats actually rly nice

except for it being chinese and the ui giving me headache

👍🏿

[grizzled arch]

https://monkeytype.com

o 3o;;

im rusty

[grizzled arch]

my friend hit 117 😦 i feel inadequate lol

[rugged frigate]

beginner keyboard guy here, did a stupid and was yanking too hard on a switch (eventually found a thread that explained a much better way) but the bottom locking bit on it broke off on the one (and i ended up not being able to get it out), any way to salvage it and get it back out?

[placid linden]

I have uhm “standards”

Keyb is a Corsair K60 RGB Pro low profile with Cherry MX speed keys and some aftermarket keycaps

[rugged frigate]

dude i did it to another one while wiggling it why is this so easy? did it just come with a crappy puller or something

the plastic on the locks is so easy to snap

[magic wolf]

Yea. If you can’t get it out from the outside just open it up

[rugged frigate]

sorry wdym open it up? like get down all the way to the PCB or open the switch up

[magic wolf]

Open case, remove plate from pcb, remove foreign debris, if you wanna try out mods now’s the time, it’s barely a 10 minute task

[rugged frigate]

alright thanks

[chrome raft]

Pandabuy?

[latent spire]

guys my keyboard "left" arrow key is not working so does anyone know how to fix it?

[bitter oar]

dead switch?

[latent spire]

yea kind of the i have pressed like 15 times for it to work

[bitter oar]

yeah, dead switch or dead popped out socket

[bitter oar]

have you been hotswapping your switches

[latent spire]

what's hotswapping?

[bitter oar]

okay, i take it as a no

do you know how to desolder and solder?

[latent spire]

what that too💀

[bitter oar]

okay, so nope

you have two options:

ignore it
throw the keyboard away

[latent spire]

it's in the laptop

[bitter oar]

should’ve told me that in the beginning

[latent spire]

sry but no you know ig 🙂

so yea what should i do?

@bitter oar

[bitter oar]

there are youtube tutorials on how to repair them

take out the key (aslong you’re able to) and replace the membrane

not just the membrane literally but you get it

and i’m not much into membrane keyboards on laptop ones so, i barely have any experience w them

[boreal rivet]

you're just talking out of your ass since it's clear you don't even know how a membrane keyboard works

[boreal rivet]

disassemble the entire laptop till you get to the keyboard assembly and somehow clean the specific contact where the key is dead and hope that it was just dirt buildup

otherwise get the assembly replaced

[latent spire]

i will do that but if it's not a dirt buildup then yea

btw i am using a white ASUS laptop btw @boreal rivet

[bitter oar]

i have ‘t slept today so i barely have two gears in by brain

[magic wolf]

right the color and brand matters a lot here

[bold warren]

What are some recommended creamy switches? Budget don't matter but would be great to get combination of budget friendly and expensive

So far Akko yellow cream switches have attracted me but would great to see other options

[magic wolf]

sound profile comes from everything that makes a keyboard a keyboard

[boreal rivet]

buy realforce

[magic wolf]

you should be shopping for switches based on type, material, bottom out weight in general etc

feel.

[bold warren]

Idk I just got into keyboards recently

[magic wolf]

right, I dont blame you, youtube video titles for this stuff is criminal

[bold warren]

Cause I'm building my first keyboard now

And I just want to ask for different switches for future builds

[magic wolf]

what have you used and does the keyboard base you're using come with some?

[bold warren]

I went with akko purple lavender switches, cherry profile keycaps and a 98 layout keyboard frame

[bold warren]

The keyboard base does come with the board and keyswitch holders already. Since I'm new I see that sodering the board is kinda tedious

[magic wolf]

who said you need to solder

[bold warren]

I have a mate that builds custom keyboards as a side job and I did watch him do it as well. Unless I missed something then idk.

[magic wolf]

this is what you wanna be looking at when you're buying switches

you ever use a tactile or clicky before?

[bold warren]

Yeah I think my purple lavender is tactile

[magic wolf]

oh embed fail..

[bold warren]

Yeah I do

[magic wolf]

odd

[bold warren]

Yeah img ain't loading

[magic wolf]

ok I give up

discord shitting itself

[bold warren]

Lol

Can you explain it

Or is it too long to explain

And an image is more effective way to show

[magic wolf]

Shopping for switches comes down to feel. Not for sound. Unless you like blues. Nobody likes you if you like blues

It ends there

Basic mods can make keyboards sound on completely opposite end of sound profile with the same switch

[bold warren]

ah ok

I did test some switches

and I did get told to compare the press

[magic wolf]

When you build your keyboard you’re gonna do some basic free mods and you’ll notice just how tiny basic things like….1 vs 4 layers of PE foam does. Then you’ll hear what different caps sounds like

Then you’ll lube a switch and see what that does

Film a switch

Try out different material plates

All of it

[bold warren]

aight

how often do you need to change the foam and lube?

or the tape

[magic wolf]

When you wanna make it sound different

And lube? Never. One and done

[bold warren]

like replace with a new one I meant

aight

lube doesnt dry or anything?

[magic wolf]

You still probably don’t understand anything I just said now, but you will, when you start doing this stuff

[bold warren]

yeah I just got into this for the past 2 months

[bitter oar]

describe what is a topre switch mechanically.

[boreal rivet]

you should just buy a realforce and not waste your time

trust me

[magic wolf]

I mean he’s right but you won’t learn anything

[bitter oar]

“trust me bro”

stop forcing realforce to everyone tbh

[magic wolf]

It’s not a bad recommendation, just a, too frequent one

[bold warren]

It's great that there's prebuilt, but I prefer more of the DIY aspect of keyboard builds. I'm more of a hands on person

[magic wolf]

there’s way worse hobbies you can get into.

[bitter oar]

if someone asks you
“i want a budget linear mechanical keyboard”
do you always answer with realforce?

[magic wolf]

Based

[bold warren]

not a hobby, just something like a 'passion project'

or just something for fun

[magic wolf]

That’s hobby but trying to make it sound like denial

[bitter oar]

it’s all preference and y’all topre lovers should stop enforcing ya opinion to others
topre switches few years ago fine…
nowadays you can get actually decent keyboards for $50

[boreal rivet]

An assembly consisting of a housing, slider, rubber dome, capacitive spring and the PCB. The housing together with the PCB keeps everything in one piece while the slider is used as an interface for keycaps to mount on, it also serves to stabilise the switch. The switch action is provided by the rubberdome, which provides resistance as well as tactility. As the dome collapses under the weight of a keypress, the capacitive spring located under the dome is also depressed, thus creating capacitance which is detected by the PCB and subsequently registered as a keypress.

[magic wolf]

Jesus this guy loves his topre

[boreal rivet]

you seem to think topre is a membrane keyboard simply because it employs rubberdomes, which is blatantly untrue

[bitter oar]

it’s not

[boreal rivet]

no shit

[magic wolf]

Do you cuddle your realforce at night?

[boreal rivet]

no i leave it on my table

[bitter oar]

that’s like comparing well… ipad to an android phone basicly

[magic wolf]

Could just say Apple and oranges

[boreal rivet]

I just understand how the switch is contructed enough to describe it

[bitter oar]

but you still force your opinion of topre to others

[boreal rivet]

same goes for MX

[magic wolf]

But this is LTT discord

[boreal rivet]

and alps SKCM/SKCL

[bold warren]

bro I didnt think asking for recs would lead to an actual argument

[magic wolf]

This is LTT discord

[boreal rivet]

because its the better choice

[magic wolf]

This happens

[bitter oar]

not for everyone

[boreal rivet]

it is really

[magic wolf]

Grab some popcorn next time

[boreal rivet]

proven by every single og who quit with a realforce

[bitter oar]

damn, how many times does it take you for understand the term budget and preference

[boreal rivet]

or some variation of topre

[bold warren]

aight, thanks for your tips and guides. I'll look into it.

[magic wolf]

I gave you one tip.

[boreal rivet]

and how hard is it for you to understand that something expensive that lasts forever is better value than it's complete opposite?

[bitter oar]

how long does it take you to understand the term budget
“my max budget is $50”
nah, i’ma recommend you $200 keyboard

[boreal rivet]

sucks to be this inflexible

[magic wolf]

Max budget of $50 ima tell him they should not be shopping for a keyboard

Steal one from your work

[bitter oar]

i mean +10% they’d prolly be fine with that but, not a price of a whole three keyboard for them

[magic wolf]

Mfw $20 shipping

[bitter oar]

literal solid $50 keyboards.
aula f75 from taobao, that’s $25-30 not even $50
ajazz ak820 pro

they’re not best ofc

but 100% better than any gaming branded company peripheral dogshit at that price point

i’ll make a sound test of the f75 because i hasn’t been doing much or any

[magic wolf]

Yeah the ak820, wish someone slapped me with one when I’m at Best Buy buying my 3rd (big gamer brand) keyboard

Something that checks all the boxes at least

The bare minimum

[boreal rivet]

bro hasnt heard of used goods

and if you want to tell some people dont want used

then sucks to be that inflexible

[bitter oar]

shipping from ebay is usually extra money

[boreal rivet]

its not hard to find a good condition topre board second hand for cheap

their loss as always

[magic wolf]

Why are they selling it if it’s the best?

[boreal rivet]

ever heard of mechmarket?

they stupid thats why

[magic wolf]

[bitter oar]

i wonder, are the keycaps even pbt on the older versions

[boreal rivet]

how have you been in this hobby for years seemingly without even knowing of mm

[bitter oar]

because used abs keycaps…

[boreal rivet]

don't change the subject loser

and yes the older ones are pbt

[bitter oar]

what if the person doesn’t want an used keyboard? good question

[boreal rivet]

can't read can you

[magic wolf]

Even if you can nuke it with windex it’s still gross

[bitter oar]

what is they don’t want that unique tactile feeling?

it’s again preference.

[boreal rivet]

that is such a dogshit argument

[bitter oar]

they ask for linear mechanical switches… give them.. linear mechanical switches

[boreal rivet]

I could just say what if they don't want random MX tactile #219

[magic wolf]

if theyre in the market for linears they just want the wooting 60he anyway

[boreal rivet]

again sucks to be this inflexible

can't imagine how they would go on with their life like that

[bitter oar]

what if they don’t have good availability for used rf

[boreal rivet]

then too bad?

[magic wolf]

what if they dont want their keyboard to look like something from the early 90s

[boreal rivet]

buy an R2

[bitter oar]

what if realfroce goes out of the question what do you recommend them at $100 bucks

[boreal rivet]

save up and buy a keyboard that feels great and will last

like a realforce

[bitter oar]

what if they’re saving up for a pc and don’t want to waste up that much on a keyboard

[magic wolf]

pretty sure most keyboards with a gasket and plate can be modded to do that

[bitter oar]

for some people even $30 is alot for a kb

[bitter oar]

again, anti budget factor argument is dumb

[boreal rivet]

if they can't even afford 50$ for a keyboard then I think they should have other priorities

[magic wolf]

I agree with this take

[boreal rivet]

thanks for the validation

[magic wolf]

if you cant afford to feed yourself for 2 days you need to be stealing a keyboard

[bitter oar]

so, you say if they have super crappy keyboard they shouldn’t upgrade to a less crappy one
but, if they don’t have money for other stuff yes. prolly valid. but, if the person expl. says that he wants $30 keyboard then what

[boreal rivet]

yes, they should upgrade to a really good one so they don't have to waste money in the future

if a person explicitly says he wants a $30 keyboard then I'd say dude get your life together first

or maybe don't cheap out on a gift

and on the other hand there are far better cheap gifts to give than some shitty $30 keyboard

[magic wolf]

the 2nd hand realforces are being sold by people who got psyoped by mxid and built their own

[bitter oar]

but, was if $30 keyboard would be plentiful for them

[boreal rivet]

plentiful at the current moment sure

[magic wolf]

ive sided both takes equally

[boreal rivet]

human greed knows no bounds

[bitter oar]

because you can’t answer with realforce to everything

[boreal rivet]

mostly

[bitter oar]

tbh, even your realforce can fail at some point

[magic wolf]

so can your heart

[bitter oar]

maybe not the switches but the pcb?

[boreal rivet]

especially with how the japanese discount anything and everything thats even slightly discoloured

[magic wolf]

you can prevent that by keeping the mtn dew away from your table

[bitter oar]

also, what if one’s don’t want to keep one keyboard forever

[boreal rivet]

I'll update you in 15 years pal

[bitter oar]

there are million requirements that simply “get realforce” can’t get

[magic wolf]

thats not the debate

hes already agreed they're good

[bitter oar]

i’ll update you in 15 years if my jerry fails

[magic wolf]

based tbh

[boreal rivet]

sure I'll set my calendar for 2 years down the road as a preemptive measure

[magic wolf]

so uh, what kinda traphouse mods can one do to a realforce

[bitter oar]

yeah, more like you’ve invited me to a server where you just got me banned
also, deleted the invite and hide your tracks very good job sheesh

that’s definitely nothing i should point at

[boreal rivet]

slider swap

dome swap

[magic wolf]

thats not traphouse mods

[boreal rivet]

all you need 👍

[magic wolf]

you're telling me you dont wanna put caulk in your bottom case?

jesus

[boreal rivet]

for the unsophisticated really

[magic wolf]

lmfao

[bitter oar]

@patent belfry also, i’m not but what you’ve done basicly falls under rule 5 in this server under self promotion

[boreal rivet]

personally its cement or nothing

[magic wolf]

oh man this is how you know you took the L

[latent spire]

guys i am currently using a mechnical KB and whenever i press the "down" arrow key the light in the top right goes OFF and ON so does anyone know how to fix it?

[bitter oar]

yeah, i’m partially rude to him due to that, he just got me banned from a random keyboard, i don’t care about the server

but, it’s self promotion

you’ve invited me to a server

and got me banned here

(the first point stands)

[magic wolf]

none of that matters except, you still whipped out the rules

thats like

[boreal rivet]

real petty eh

[magic wolf]

13 year old playground snitch behavior

[boreal rivet]

he does this everytime

[bitter oar]

“feel free to join my” server
i didn’t say i want to
you sent me the link regardless

[magic wolf]

lmfao oh my god

[bitter oar]

it’s literally in the rules tho

lmao

do i care

[magic wolf]

this guy tells cops in public "thank you for your service"

[bitter oar]

shesh weren’t you who banned me

for what?

[latent spire]

guys i am currently using a mechnical KB and whenever i press the "down" arrow key the light in the top right goes OFF and ON so does anyone know how to fix it?

[bitter oar]

leaving the server?

is that even a reason to get banned

[boreal rivet]

no idea mang

[magic wolf]

🍿

[bitter oar]

“spreading misinformation” but which misinformation

you guys just randomly ban people in the server for having different opinions

and what about it was misinformation

like a proof?

i mean, you know the best because i was chatting with you in the chat

so, getting banned for misinformation just like that is even more sus

“trust me bro”

[magic wolf]

thoctober can be unpleasant to chat with? How did you manage that

[bitter oar]

you avoid literally everything i’ve asked regarding the ban when going deeply

don’t know him, don’t care

if i’d actually care i’d ask for an appeal not scream over you

i care about this server, not about you.
you’re still part of the server

if you stop recommending realforce/hhkb/topre shit to every brokey i’ll stop

you’re just recommending people wrong stuff they don’t care about

where’s my right to argue with you stop

just don’t

idk, man if you think ws mondari’s are meme switches then tell me what’s comparably the cheapest one that’s decently lubed

man, but you could assume that about everything…

if they ask for linear switches… give em linears

they probably know linears or atleast want them

what if they want clacky keyboard

what if they want a midrange prelubed linear switch?

at the end it’s just preference

[magic wolf]

Tbf nobody ask these things except the clacky part

People ask for what switch to buy for a stupid onomatopoeia word

Like wtf is milky

Milk sounds like water

[arctic shuttle]

I want a creamy marble thock clack guys, should I get holy panda x's

[boreal rivet]

yes

[balmy kelp]

Lol I haven't been here in a bit and then keyboard drama 🍿 just did the raptor he/lekker stem mod for my wooting recently btw, feels amazing now. 😍

[bitter oar]

clacky, thocky, creamy, marbly, poppy,
milky / honey is more of a feeling

[dull minnow]

So i need a good mechanical keyboard at 25 euro budget

I saw the k617

But i dislike the no numpad(not the biggest problem), and i find it weird that the delete keys and stuff arent apart keys and was wondering how it would work

Whats the difference between greenshaft and red axis, which is better

[wooden ember]

Define what would meet your grade of "good" in this scenario. What is good for you may not be good for others. Are you able to tolerate cheap plastic feel? Lots of rattle and pingy noises? Do you need tactile feedback in the keyswitch? Do you care if the keyboard itself is loud? In probably most of our opinions, at that price point, you can probably buy anything and they'll all be relatively the same.

[magic wolf]

Checks as many boxes as possible to address all these issues eventually

[crisp patrol]

I'm guessing improper contact when the key is actuated or damaged pads on either the membrane or pcb

[bold warren]

Do keycap material matter when it comes to sound?

[magic wolf]

massively

keycaps overall

just dont shop for them with a desired sound in mind

cause thats either impossible or you have bought an unhealthy amount of caps already

[bold warren]

Aight

[pliant reef]

@patent belfry my keyboard is now stored in the warehouse but it wont let me pay international fright?

sry

i did but everything is chinese and when i change it to english only like a couple words actually change to english

[boreal rivet]

pro tip pay in taobao if they accept your card

superbuy's exchange rate is shit

same goes for every other taobao proxy last i checked

[last saffron]

if I want a TKL hot swap base whats differences between buying a plastic and metal base is it just sound or flex

just want make a hot swap base with thick box jades

[magic wolf]

Both

[last saffron]

right gotcha

would a metal base enhance the sound of clicky switches ?

[magic wolf]

When I think of a metal case I think of very nice weight and feel

Idk I spent my entire keyboard careeer shutting them up

Not trying to hear them more

[pliant reef]

current order status: stored in warehouse?

2024-01-14 16:12:06 Your ordered items have been inspected, and will be stored to the warehouse within 24 hours.

2024-01-14 17:08 Stored in Warehouse

wait

i did

bruh my phone shut down

[pliant reef]

On the home page everything is english but when i go to my orders everything is chinese

Expert bag or self made bag?

I did bro😭😭😭😭😭😭

Thats the thing

It only did half the app to english

I choose english

It still says chinese

[steady pulsar]

I got new keycaps

White, Red and black pudding keycaps

Hoping to find some teal to replace the red

[pliant reef]

@patent belfry expert bag or self made bag?

Idk would you?

[last saffron]

how many switches would i need for a tkl ?

[pliant reef]

ok thx

i just downloaded the app again in app store and chose english again on the setup and the app is still in chinese, i think its just broke for me

[last saffron]

got 90 switches of kalih box jades for like 39

[last saffron]

i think i want to get pbt keycaps with a base

have rgb with one colour

well

im looking at hot swap keyboard bases

i want to get one with rgb

[drifting mauve]

Just replaced my pudding caps with these cool PBT dyesub mac style ones lol

Hell on earth
I fricking hate cherry reds
I'm personally don't like the feel or look of abs pudding caps either

PBT pudding caps aint that bad tho ngl

[magic wolf]

refined like the statue of david my friend

goddamn

[static kite]

How much less useable a keyboard is going from 65% to 40%?

[drifting mauve]

Not less usable
Just more complicated

You really gotta be a special kind of fella to use a 40%

[static kite]

I am special, yes.

[chrome raft]

i have a tip to make your keyboard sound better

||blast your ears with such loud sounds that they ring extremly loudly(idk why this made my keyboard sound better but yeah)||

[drifting mauve]

life changing keyboard mod

[chrome raft]

real

[bitter oar]

I don’t feel well to argue rn

[last saffron]

not sure if i want to get a plastic or metal base

[chrome raft]

i just opened my ak820 pro

it's kinda nice

i wish they had eu layouts

[tame briar]

guys, i have my first "customizable" keyboard, that i dont really want to customize, aside from remapping keys

so far it doesnt seem like i can remap "Fn" and "right option" button using usevia.app

is that normal?

[modest creek]

is that an M65 though

[drifting mauve]

Yes

Great mouse as long as you..
Step 1: Install icue
Step 2: Set the lightning and calibration to exactly how you want it and load it onto the on-board memory on the mouse
Step 3: delete icue

I'm never touching that rotten maggot infested rats nest of a so called """software"""" EVER AGAIN!

Ide rather jab my eyes with a dagger that's been sitting inside an isolated terrarium full of mutant super bacteria

[magic wolf]

Hahahahahaha yea. God

The funny part about this is this isn’t even a fraction of how I feel about proprietary software bullshit

Like hey, have dumb unicorn barf lighting till you get nauseous enough to use me

[modest creek]

To be honest I have had 3 due to RMA in the switch issues they have. My wife was using it up until a week or two ago when the latest replacement started double and no clicking. She's now got a g305

[ionic briar]

g hub is no better
at least theres onboard memory manager. so you can set your mouse to onboard memory once using g hub, and then continue using omm for the rest

[modest creek]

I don't use any software

[chrome raft]

I hate Ghub so much.

Any recommendations for software that will let me save lighting on board my Logitech keyboard?

Got the Logitech g512

[bold warren]

anyone here know what MOA keycaps are?

I love the design but how does it do with large fingers like mine?

[bitter oar]

Profile type of keycaps, like cherry, oem, xda for example
they seem to be similiar to KOA profile.
yeah, they’re alright pretty much for any finger size (aslong you don’t have bigfoot sized finger tips)
There’s nothing particullary wrong with them. you can expect small defects from molding under the keycap but, nothing major.. Maybe a slight amount of fuzziness on the legends (if they have any legends).

It won’t take anything from overall feel of the keycap or sound

[bold warren]

nice thanks!

also, is it possible to make tactile switches sound more creamy through keyboard mods? Or am I about to discover a new sound that no one has heard of through mods?

sorry for asking these weird questions

[bitter oar]

well, lubing them would make them more creamy, but, they would lose up thier tactility, especally if you lube the mechanical parts of the switch.
if you don’t want to lube then, adding PE foam mod, tape mod should generally make the board more creamy

[bitter oar]

also, just to be sure tactile or tactile clicky

[bold warren]

asking because I got given akko lavender purples when I didn't know about custom keyboards. Now that I just got into it and building one, I want to make the sound creamy. (Cream as in light and soft sound that's not too loud)

[bitter oar]

just tactile k

[bitter oar]

switch is just part of the keyboard what makes it creamy, but, yeah it’s substantial part of it

lube the switches with a thin layer, add PE foam, add tape mode and that should make it more creamy and clacky

[bold warren]

aight thanks mate!

[bitter oar]

also, be careful with PE foam when inserting in the switches, because as the metal pins penetrate the PE foam they may bend and when they’re bent and you insert more force than you should you can pop up the hotswap socket

and that requires soldering skills

[bold warren]

ok noted

I didn't realise how deep this custom keyboard building rabbit hole can go lol. I just go into it and I feel like there's like endless possibilities and options.

[bitter oar]

all you need is just enough force to socket the switch. if it’s doesn’t go then just check for bent pins

[bitter oar]

average decent custom kb have became relatively cheap recently

nowadays you can get fully built aluminium case keyboard for $100-120 that doesn’t suck

or alu keyboard kit for $40-60

[drifting mauve]

I've heard the m65 elite from a few years ago was pretty bad
Mine is an ultra, only issue ive had with it (a common one that can be fixed) is when you click the snipe button the curser lags and jitters a few seconds later when you move it around
Easily fixed by creating a new profile and deleting the stock default profile

My main issue with icue is that it kept crashing randomly all the time

Amazing mouse as long as you know how to fix its problems

[crisp patrol]

my old m65 still doubleclicks

not like corsair is even worth it now anyways

never were imho

[modest creek]

True

I got it cheap and went thru like 4 RMA i guess I got my money worth

[bold warren]

Are MOA keycaps suitable for gaming? I do light gaming on the side of my design job and I just wanna know if they are ok. (Sorry if I ask weird or odd questions, I'm just starting out)

[sonic cape]

keycaps don't really make a difference, it's all about personal preference

i game on mt3 sometimes and it's fine

[bold warren]

Ah ok, thanks!

[bitter oar]

keycaps are literally just preference

if you want deeper sound, taller and thicker keycaps then.
if you don’t care then it doesn’t matter

koa/xda sets are cheap, you can get them off ali for $15-20

there are also other keycap profiles

[magic wolf]

whats funny is, yeah this would make sense from a….basic understanding of how sound works perspective. But

These tiny ODM pbt caps are deadass quieter and deeper than my SA keycaps that have the most overall material I’ve seen a keycap have.

There’s no guarantees with caps besides what the material is and what that feels like against your skin, and the look

This experience just proved to show the little I knew about how sound worked was a load of ass so

[bitter oar]

well, it also depends on the thickness of the keycap tbh, those marshmallow looking koa keycaps are thicker than your avg 1.5mm cherry keycap

yeah, there’s a whole science around that

sound is weird

try some low profile flat keycap profile and you’ll be surprised how differently it sounds

[magic wolf]

The science of keyboard sound feels like it’s not conducive to logic at times

[magic wolf]

Literally, my ODM caps

Wrong reply I meant to low flat key cap profile

The weird thing is, they’re not low enough to sit below the top housing like cherry profile, and OEM profile tend to do

Yet they’re without a doubt more prolific on that lower end sound spectrum

It was a fun little surprise. It’s too bad that I still like my SA profile more than the sound

[bitter oar]

the row 5/6 is so tall

or well, R1 just to be correct

finally my aula f75 arrives tomorrow

after a delay

atleast i get a $1 coupon from ali for the order not arriving within 14 days

[magic wolf]

Your right. Dead right. Too right.

It’s actually, tiring to use this profile. I need to use a wrist rest with it for typing sessions

But

Now this is a huge but

It has a very, very almost, “optimized” type feel. Not in terms of effort expenditure but in, motion

It’s hard to put words to it

[muted karma]

tbh I feel like taller profiles make a wristrest even worse

you probably just want floating hands while typing (like you really should anyways) and then higher angle

[magic wolf]

Really? You find “clawing” at your keyboard more comfy?

[muted karma]

like legit 11 degrees or something

[muted karma]

floating wrists

not touching my desk

[magic wolf]

That’s an entirely foreign concept to me unless I’m standing over my desk

[muted karma]

I put my elbows on my armrests on my chair

and then just have my wrists hover above my desk

[magic wolf]

I do this when I’m going for max effort monkeytype wpm

[muted karma]

using a wristrest while typing actually supports RSI, since you add pressure on your sinew canals

[magic wolf]

Kb Ergo is a as convoluted of a science as Kb sound is. Again my logic would, dictate that a less fatigued muscle is a less strained one

[muted karma]

RSI is not about muscles

RSI is about sinews

[magic wolf]

Joints got it

[muted karma]

no

sinews

not joints

[magic wolf]

I diddnt take human bio and now it’s biting me

[muted karma]

(obv best way to prevent RSI is doing proper stretches, but who does that)

[muted karma]

the strings that sit in your body and connect muscles to joints

they sit in canals

and them rubbin on the sinew canals is what causes RSI

doing proper stretches helps with loosening up hte whole system

pressing down on them increases friction between them

imagine it like a thin tube with a string inside

[magic wolf]

One hell of a straightforward science for once

[muted karma]

it's not super complicated

the whole vertical mouse thing essentially does the same thing, since you reduce the pressure on those canals

[magic wolf]

I’m assuming (my enemy by now) that, a deskmat, and following that, a cushioned wrist wrest could at least delay the harm done here

Weight absorption is less pressure no?

[muted karma]

a bit maybe

ideally you just don't want your wrists to touch a surface with any higher amount of pressure when moving your fingers a whole lot

[magic wolf]

I love this sa profile for typing but I also don’t love the idea of debilitating myself for it

[muted karma]

especially if you already overextend your wrists

[magic wolf]

So like, a reverse Y

Yeah I’ve seen some ergo keyboards have that kinda

[muted karma]

what

[magic wolf]

How do I say, tucked in split form to them

[muted karma]

no I mean upwards

[magic wolf]

I’m on the wrong axis

[muted karma]

something like this (not even sure what the proper term is) will barely do anything

[magic wolf]

Thanks for your input my friend. Im, def gonna consider this factor, but ergo seems like it’s own sector to this hobby

[muted karma]

yea somewhat with splits

[magic wolf]

Well more like

Discussion, rabbit hole

[muted karma]

no I mean like with split keyboards

[magic wolf]

Nature etc

[cunning anvil]

Alice

[cunning anvil]

that's the layout there

[muted karma]

yes I know it is an alice

but I'm not sure what you actually call the angle that you get there

something like tenting or typing angle

[cunning anvil]

oh like the rotation?

[muted karma]

yea

[cunning anvil]

unibody split angle ig

[muted karma]

like this angle

[cunning anvil]

yeah

Alice is unisplit i think

cowards b spotted

why is it O

[bitter oar]

wher my function keys

[wild star]

it's numpad zero. a lot of keysets don't have an extra "b" so many people put a different key there.

[wild star]

keychron q10 has a ergo layout with f row

[bitter oar]

hmmmm a knob on the left side

intresting

[wild star]

ergo TKL. and a handful of similar keyboards but they are all over $400

[magic wolf]

Would value a second opinion here before I dedicate the next couple give or take hours of my life.

Silent linear.

Is there a brush “workflow method” to minimize the variance in amount of lube applied to the springs?

[boreal rivet]

Dump it in a bag

[magic wolf]

Saw in a video the guy use a silicone oil when bagging springs. Some 205g0 just fine too?

I got various lubes just say the word

[boreal rivet]

use oil for springs

[magic wolf]

Great, easy

[sonic cape]

for the stem you only need to lube some parts

[sonic cape]

not the entirety

[magic wolf]

I figured I wasn’t dunking it in the 205

The red is supposed indicate “no no” zones

What I could use detail on is this, spring guide

[chrome raft]

anybody got suggestion for a creamy and quiet switch?

[magic wolf]

I don’t know what creamy means but

I’m putting together an extremely quiet one

[pliant reef]

1.6mm stabs or 1.2mm???