#peripherals

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bitter oar
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also, you say 75% is weird but, what is 70%

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you didn’t*

vocal breach
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good 200 usd keyboard that i can get in europe

bitter oar
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you said it sucks that’s it

bitter oar
vocal breach
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150*

bitter oar
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uhhh, i think you’ve started it first

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by me saying topre is overrated you just raided at me like an acid

vocal breach
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60%

bitter oar
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europe

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60% with a knob mm

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i assume built

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maxgaming has switch options tbh if you are in europe

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not many options tho

boreal rivet
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hhkb

bitter oar
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i don’t think that’s available in europe, you’d have to pay vat and customs

boreal rivet
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actually

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it is

bitter oar
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link

vocal breach
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poland

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150 usd budget tho

spiral mica
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I dont really recall a lot of 60% with knob within that budget

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only ones that comes to my mind rn are keychron q2, sugar65 and cidoo v65

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or well tofu but that doesnt have a knob

bitter oar
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sugar65 is lovely bargain

bitter oar
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can’t think of single one

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doubt you’ll be able to get an used hhkb or pretty much any custom keyboard in non western eu

boreal rivet
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you can google right

spiral mica
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I mean if someone is asking for a keyboard recom then I doubt a topre/hhkb would be what they are looking for

bitter oar
bitter oar
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you lack common sense

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your point is “if your budget is below $100 you should get razer”
and you call yourself an enthusiast of keyboards

spiral mica
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unless you are really deep into the hobby you wouldnt buy a topre

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like its good

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but not everyone is used to it or is willing to get one

bitter oar
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it’s preference and these guys enforce thier preference to what people want/need

spiral mica
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well of all the people I know in the hobby/community

bitter oar
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it’s your preference. not what everyone wants, need or likes

spiral mica
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only the ones very deep into the hobby uses one

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thats my observation

vocal breach
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ty

spiral mica
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dont get a epomaker...

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sugar65 exists

bitter oar
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it’s mediocre

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weren’t you the one who criticized the rainy 75 for sucking

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then what is the thing you’ve sent

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what’s wrong with the rainy 75 and not with the ek68

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does the ek68 support qmk/via even

spiral mica
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I would prefer keychron>epomaker tbh

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epomaker is questionable

bitter oar
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keychron is also mid tbh

spiral mica
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its q series is fine

bitter oar
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v series are prolly the value you should look for

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v1

spiral mica
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personally had a really bad experience with their K series and idk about v series

spiral mica
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yeah

bitter oar
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v series is fine

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so, that’s it why the rainy 75 sucks? because the ek68 offrers one more profile?

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there is nothing blatantly bad about the rainy 75

boreal rivet
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this is like common sense

spiral mica
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you can always just take the foam out

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

bitter oar
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okay, does it make the keynoard unusable? inconsistent. gasket performance

spiral mica
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also it can still flex even if it has foam

bitter oar
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gasket performance

spiral mica
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so does the zoom65

bitter oar
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and, does it make it unusable?

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i’d rather have inconsistent gasket performance over missing $200 in my wallet

spiral mica
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man wtf

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its not the best thing ever but so far my experience with it is pretty good

bitter oar
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just casually insulting one of the best budget kits

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look what kdbfans sell

spiral mica
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a lot of keyboard brands are based in china

bitter oar
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$20

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uhhh, same with other keyboards

spiral mica
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"large percentage" not really

bitter oar
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the shipping ain’t gonna be under $10

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for pretty much most stuff

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uhh didn’t he say he lives in europe

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you sent him amazon ca link

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that’s definitely not going to be $100 shipping

spiral mica
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CIDOO

65% Mechanical Keyboard & VIA Programming Support After releasing several keyboards and receiving feedback from the community, we at CIDOO are excited to launch an extremely powerful mechanical keyboard that supports VIA programming. With a 65% layout, the keyboard retains all of the essential keys for daily work a

bitter oar
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amazon ca isn’t amazon de

spiral mica
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this is also a 65%

bitter oar
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you didn’t meet much of his requirements tbh

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does this include vat and customs?

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i have press X to doubt

spiral mica
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epomaker

65% Mechanical Keyboard & VIA Programming Support After releasing several keyboards and receiving feedback from the community, we at CIDOO are excited to launch an extremely powerful mechanical keyboard that supports VIA programming. With a 65% layout, the keyboard retains all of the essential keys for daily work a

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also its 129 on my screen

bitter oar
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epomaker doesn’t include vat and customs

spiral mica
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even on official website

bitter oar
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count that

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epomaker doesn’t include vat and customs @patent belfry

spiral mica
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1023 hkd=~130 usd

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I cant change it to usd

bitter oar
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because, vat 20%, + customs is around $15

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your $100 keyboard will become $135

spiral mica
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idk about vat and custom

bitter oar
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cidoo also doesn’t include vat and tax so, the point stands

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no shipping included

spiral mica
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oh bruh

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i didnt know that

bitter oar
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because you have no idea how it works in eu

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it’s not 8% tax like you see in the us

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the website says if it does include tax or not

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because you recommend stuff to people without actually having an idea how it works in thier region

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you have more ego than knowledge

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vat is 20%
customs is $15+

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nah, man you don’t have idea how it works in eu

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ah yes and your $100 keyboard w shipping becomes $180

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that would be over thier budget

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you literally act like rich ass

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not everyone can pay it

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point A. thier budget.

bitter oar
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they include vat

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not sure about customs tho ;/

spiral mica
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also its 115 on finalkey's website

bitter oar
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tought money works for you

arctic shuttle
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I'm alive

bitter oar
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man it seems more like
“says nonsense”
“ahh it was a joke”

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then stop having an ass high ego, recommending people what they don’t want and actually have the knowledge

spiral mica
bitter oar
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being many years in custom keyboard hobby doesn’t make you the book of the world lol

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i’m less years in the hobby and i know how the vat and customs work

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you clearly don’t

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desparate.

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calling me stupid when getting a point

arctic shuttle
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What the hell is going on

spiral mica
bitter oar
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dayum are you refering to the brick wall meme? are you 14?

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damn i don’t get it how dense are you

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i don’t think the mod would be happy about these gif floods

arctic shuttle
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Isn't this guy the one that got kicked from KBD cause he was spreading missinformation?

bitter oar
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me?

boreal rivet
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it was someone else i think

arctic shuttle
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He's on the ban list ya

bitter oar
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do i care?

arctic shuttle
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Reason "Left to avoid consequence due to spread of misinformation"

bitter oar
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i just left server, i wasn’t banned

bitter oar
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i didn’t left because i was avaiting punishment

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i left because i left

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man i got muted for saying “marbly”

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what kind of server is that for muting people for custom terms

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so, thocky is allowed? marbly isn’t?

arctic shuttle
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When was thocky allowed?

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Thocky, creamy, marbly, all banned terms for a lack of information attached to them

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Tharbly now thats a term that puts some hair on a chest

bitter oar
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and for what i was banned exactly?

arctic shuttle
nimble mauve
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@arctic shuttle

arctic shuttle
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Sorry

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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Not sure

bitter oar
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it sounds like they just banned me for no appearent reason

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or atleast reasonable

arctic shuttle
bitter oar
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they we’re just finding a reason to ban me tbh

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as i would care

arctic shuttle
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It only took you a few hours to get banned?

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Honestly props

bitter oar
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just indicates how trashy the server is

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filter.

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filter and manual mute/time out isn’t the same

arctic shuttle
bitter oar
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he sent me server link

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and he deleted it

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ah yes,

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should’ve screenshotted it tbh

arctic shuttle
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Well considering the audit logs don't say that thocctober has created and invite link for the last 4 months, I don't think thats the case

arctic shuttle
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Hey, I'm just trying to make sure everyone is being truthful

bitter oar
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nice @patent belfry letting me join a server i don’t care to get banned outa it
didn’t know someone so random could do something like this

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what now are you going to ruin my life or what waw i’m so scared

arctic shuttle
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If you didn't care, why did you join and "Leave to avoid consequence due to spread of misinformation"

bitter oar
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i also assume he deleted all my messages

arctic shuttle
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Isn't that what DM's are for

bitter oar
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if he’s admin in the server

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how did i join it in the first place?

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i joinned the same day as we were discussing the stuf

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doesn’t that seem bit too alined?

arctic shuttle
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Lemme check

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Said you joined off a vanity link

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That could have come from anywhere

bitter oar
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i didn’t know the server existed until he gave me the link

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at first i tought it was some knockoff kdb fans server

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sec

arctic shuttle
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No that one is a different link

bitter oar
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@arctic shuttle

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check your direct messages

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that’s how i was brought to the server

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feel free to join my server

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so, is it obvious enough

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you forgot to delete that @patent belfry

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so, this server is broken?

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so, the link sent itself and deleted itself

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how did i join the server then

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you told me to chech direct messages

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there was the link in here

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if your logs don’t say that you have sent the link then probably something wrong in the audit log

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then why did you want me to check your dm @patent belfry

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@arctic shuttle

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sounds like “it’s just a joke” case

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okay, and what’s the point of trolling?

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you look like a jerk tbh

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A. it’s waste of time

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so, the stuff you’ve said about topre is not true thx

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what a relief

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so, they suck

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trashy membrane overlubed gat black

arctic shuttle
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Huh? Topre is great

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That's not trolling that's genuine, topre is better than standard membrane in every way, and in terms of keyboard feel and response, they feel pretty spectacular

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You can't compare topre to mechanical as they are 2 completely separate experiences

bitter oar
bitter oar
arctic shuttle
bitter oar
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it’s with him recommending topre to everyone who wants a keyboard

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and if thier budget is below $100 according to him “they should get a razer”

arctic shuttle
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What's the difference between that and you recommending someone get a mechanical keyboard?

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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Here's the thing right, if your budget is below $150, get a keychron or big box store keyboard

bitter oar
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B. he says rainy 75 is garbage

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without explanation

arctic shuttle
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Liquid

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@bitter oar no noticable QC on the keycaps, switches are super mid

bitter oar
bitter oar
arctic shuttle
arctic shuttle
bitter oar
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if i’d have to recommend rainy 75 or random huntsman mini or something why tf i would recommend the razer one

bitter oar
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not $100

arctic shuttle
bitter oar
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but most are fine if it takes 2 weeks, my stuff from ali arrived usually within two weeks

arctic shuttle
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You can't really recommend a custom to someone with an above average low budget

bitter oar
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not everyone wants used keyboard

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also, cheap abs keycaps will become shiny within a year or two

arctic shuttle
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What's wrong with shiny abs?

bitter oar
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he didn’t even know how vat and customs duties work

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he shouldn’t recommend stuff to people

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
bitter oar
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and your finger slips on them when you get wet or sweaty

arctic shuttle
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Is that my glacier?

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I need to fix it, I split the shift key and I hate it

bitter oar
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you forgot they exist that also counts

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yes

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you give them the proper link

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if you want to actually help you just don’t “go find it yourself” when it’s in matter of three seconds

arctic shuttle
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.... Isn't sending a link to a keyboard helping.

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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The person could just take the title of the product and search it per their local listing

bitter oar
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look at tc1 and the questions

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some just don’t have the capacity

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you can’t just go on and “eh it’s thier fault they’re dumb”

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you can’t behave like that to someone who’s a newbie

arctic shuttle
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They asked for help, help was supplied. I'm not their dad, I can't hold their hand the entire way through a process. The point of assisting someone, isn't to give them the answers directly, but to guide them in the right direction. How are they suppose to learn if you always give them 100% what they are asking for

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They need to do SOMETHING

bitter oar
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if they ask nicely what are you going to do?

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fuck them off or what?

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no?

arctic shuttle
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Tell them "here's what you want, here are some of your local distributers, find who has it"

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Because again, they are asking for advice. If they want me to build them a keyboard, I'll do it

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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If you want to put forth the extra effort to find exactly where they live and give them the best deal you can find with links and everything, you go right ahead and do that

bitter oar
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or that amazon sells in europe at all

arctic shuttle
bitter oar
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he just sent amazon ca link average person won’t assume

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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What........

bitter oar
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it may just result in more effort if they ask for european link again

arctic shuttle
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You are telling me switching MY Amazon to a EU Amazon, looking for the product and sending a link, is easier than just typing in MY search bar for the same product?

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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...... Give it a go and tell me it's that easy

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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I'm confused as to what the issue here is

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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If they don't know basic consumerism, how are they surviving

bitter oar
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average person knows shit

arctic shuttle
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Thats incorrect though, because if you make a purchase, which every single person does, you know that product is potentially what you are looking for

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So what's the argument here?

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It's simple, THOCC gave the person EXACTLY what they asked for

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If they want to find it cheaper, they can do that

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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I.e. looking in your own country now that you have the product information

arctic shuttle
bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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Razer is a fine keyboard with RGB software that isn't VIA/VIAL

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You are putting a lot of your opinion and subjective based information and ignoring the root where this all comes from

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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Yes

bitter oar
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which is the feature of gaming keyboards pretty much all the time

arctic shuttle
bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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And they will rattle

bitter oar
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they don’t need lube to sound fine

bitter oar
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not even tick

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they tick when you pair them with very long pole switches

arctic shuttle
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That..... That doesn't make any sense

bitter oar
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that’s why the long pole version exists

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search on youtube tx stabilizers

arctic shuttle
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The long pole versions exist so you can put less effort into attaching keycaps to them

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You can use long pole stems and regular tx stabs and they will sound the same

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Unless you don't have a tuned wire

arctic shuttle
bitter oar
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if i press down the spacebar on the sides i’ll woble and tick

arctic shuttle
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.......

bitter oar
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because the switch stem is too long

arctic shuttle
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I have durock ly stems and regular tx stabs, and they don't do that

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And THOCC has heard that keyboard

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But let me record another one so you can see what I mean

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Let me get back to my desk in a bit

bitter oar
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i have tx 3.0’s and tx 4.0’s long pole

arctic shuttle
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That's pretty hot

arctic shuttle
bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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I'm using Rev 3's

bitter oar
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but, the 4.0’s don’t wobble when i press on the side

arctic shuttle
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Still don't have that issue

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Cherry clip ins

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
bitter oar
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mondari’s are like one of the longest pole switches you can get

arctic shuttle
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Okay?

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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The same size

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
bitter oar
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weird

arctic shuttle
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Why is it weird?

bitter oar
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then my wire probably wasn’t straight enough

arctic shuttle
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Right

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So you are going to have wobble, or ticking, or however else you want to define stab issues

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Which disproves your argument about "no one wanting wobbly stabs" because there is no such thing as a stab that does wobble without proper tuning

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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So do Razer keyboards

bitter oar
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definitely not perfect but much better than your average gaming keyboard that has never seen droplet of lube or very poor lubing job

bitter oar
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they we’re lubed

arctic shuttle
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I have a set, they are terrible

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That's on GMMK's end

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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Okay? How did GMMK get into the Razer argument

bitter oar
arctic shuttle
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Right because it sounds like you just made a statement that not all prebuilts custom stabs are good

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So you are for Razer stabs now?

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I'm so confused

bitter oar
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i didn’t say every single one of them

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no idea

arctic shuttle
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Epomaker, keychron

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They advertise "Custom Prebuilt"

bitter oar
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well, that’s not the point

arctic shuttle
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Right

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If I built you a keyboard from parts, is it custom or custom prebuilt

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As the end consumer, I'm giving you a prebuilt keyboard

bitter oar
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i still want to make fun of the gmmk stabs

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tbh

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real

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changing the cable*

arctic shuttle
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Adding GMMK goat stabs to a build makes it a great doorstop

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Shut up

bitter oar
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gmmk (glorious) managed to make one of the most mushy and rattly stabs at the same time congrats

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NO

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at most thier gsv2

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thier goat stabs are total joke

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even gaming companies didn’t dare to sell sticky stabilizers

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even after they fixed the issues the stabs suck

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bottom of the tier barrel

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reason being

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💀

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what do you think about unlubed durocks

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i don’t believe you those are goat stabs

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they still suck even in that kb tbh

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mine were mushy even after i delubed them

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whar

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i’d rather any other stabs than those gmmk ones

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try some gsv2’s they’re decent for $10 a piece

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troll.

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literally the whole web is flood by how they suck

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i remember all the complains about them

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literally 99.5% of complains were just the stabs sucking on the gmmk pro /2

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you’d be surprised how many people buy it

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gmmk2 is fine apart from the stabs ofc

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i had gmmk2 w glorious fox

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no…

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gmmk2 is most of the plastic and rainy 75 is fully cnc aluminium case

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gmmk2 has metal weight tho

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it’s meh overall

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it doesn’t even have 75% version

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but,well, 1800 is nice

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no, the stabs make it from meh to niche

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you have to get new stabs to actually make it sound fine

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you can’t do much about mushiness tbh

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i don’t understand you

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they’re the most meme stabs you can pretty much get

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i’d even get the razer or corsair stabs over them

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boreal rivet
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Yo wait don’t stop

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I need something to read in the morning

onyx escarp
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wait what keyboard do i have when my enter looks like the iso and shift looks like ansi layout

nova mountain
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Welcome, my keyboard key sometimes dont respond. When Im clicking A and then D sometimes D keyboards stops working. Its kinda annoying since I play games and your character stops at the place. I tried reinstall drivers, regedit, changing other keyboard (it happens on other keyboard too), changing usb port, creating new user, deleting software but nothing works. You can see at the video that one time works and other time doesnt.

nova mountain
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nope

bitter oar
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hmmm

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have you tried different device?

bitter oar
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have you tried reinstalling windows?

nova mountain
bitter oar
nova mountain
nova mountain
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brb

bitter oar
bitter oar
nova mountain
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yeah, it happens on her laptop too

bitter oar
bitter oar
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keybord

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👍

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no wat

wooden ember
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drugs or lube? kek

zinc wave
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Lube. Thems blunt tips

wooden ember
bitter oar
chrome raft
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Is mysterious keyboard foam from amazon blind buy or nah

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I mean it has good reviews

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15.81 cad

bitter oar
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it’ll suck hard but, it’s fine for stuff

chrome raft
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Mebrance with foam?

bitter oar
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mebrace?

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also how i could guess that from such context

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15 cad is like one pizza

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in the us currency

chrome raft
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This

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I found it on amazon

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And I bought it’s

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It hasnt shipped yet tho

bitter oar
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(didn’t see the foam)

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wwww sorry

chrome raft
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But good cop

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Or nah

bitter oar
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i mean it’s foam, looks like fine cop y

chrome raft
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I might have to cut

bitter oar
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damn i forgot hot those plastic legs are called that are for screws

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i need some rest mmm

bitter oar
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asap

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sorry for confusion

chrome raft
bitter oar
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same

chrome raft
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So if it doesnt fit the poles or holder screw thingys

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I poke a hole

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And im good

chrome raft
# bitter oar yes

The case foam looks a little thin will it be too hallow for my rk61

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Or should i put some sand or something weird like hipyo tech

bitter oar
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no silicone dampening is sadge

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for those plastic keebs

chrome raft
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And i think its too thing

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Thin

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Where do i even buy a big piece of foam

bitter oar
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or even playdoh

chrome raft
chrome raft
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Penny mod?

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Im canadian and got a bunch of pennys laying around cuz we dont use pennys

bitter oar
chrome raft
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And im good?

bitter oar
chrome raft
bitter oar
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like ‘resin + coins does the job

chrome raft
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Wait so it will make it more thcokier

bitter oar
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and much deeper and way less uhh i forgot the term

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hollow

bitter oar
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no rattle not

chrome raft
bitter oar
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lube stabilizers

chrome raft
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Like the case is done for

bitter oar
chrome raft
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But too lazy to balanced

bitter oar
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pretty much permanent

chrome raft
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And i use the tape and pull it out

bitter oar
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you have to properly angle the keyboard while it’s going the hardenin job

chrome raft
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That arent hard

bitter oar
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even cotton works

boreal rivet
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Cement is the best option

bitter oar
chrome raft
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Shock

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And idk if cotton will stay in place

bitter oar
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please just no regular sand

chrome raft
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Does that work

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Does color effect thock

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Or type

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Or all types r the same

bitter oar
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i mean… sand that’s painted there’s not much difference between them

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denser material will generally equal to deeper sounding keyboard

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some have better dampening properties tho

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probably best material is steel

chrome raft
bitter oar
chrome raft
sterile gust
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how do i fix this

spiral mica
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whats even the problem

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1.6mm stab on 1.2mm pcb?

chrome raft
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Oh i see why that dude was trolling me

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I literally gave him a random po box

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He fucked it up might aswell tried to save him

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Plus i kinda knew what he was tryna do

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So i sent him a American

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Ik but i mean idrc

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He fucked it up already

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If he didnt know what to do

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Dont think soldering himsef would help him

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He said he was 15 i knew he was lying with those fingers

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But idrc

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Cuz bro the canadian mech keys

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R so bad

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And toxic

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When i was starting back in 2022 ocbtober

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I got vote kicked for asking for too much help

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And the other mech keys just banned me for like sending an amazon link

chrome raft
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This is the reddit thread on how I got banned

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Cuz of these auto mods

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Ik but i got banned for too many questions

tight tinsel
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anyone know what switches / build Plouffe is using in the "mac users deserve a better keyboard" video? i am really loving how quiet it is for the office, and im relatively new to mech keyboards. Any tips would be greatly appreciated! its here: https://youtu.be/oFO92PSvqms?t=91

chrome raft
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best tkl keyboard around 75 dollars i can find on amazon?

tight tinsel
chrome raft
chrome raft
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Or red dragon

tight tinsel
chrome raft
bitter oar
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no that’s Keybart

chrome raft
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Clack or thocc

cunning anvil
chrome raft
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Thacc

covert rock
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any recommendations for an 80% mechanical keyboard for around $100

wooden ember
#

is that a meme here?

marble monolith
#

hey does anyone have any idea how to disable google short cut

pliant reef
#

Got a keychron k8 pro with ws morandi switches and blank pbt keycaps from amazon, love the sound except for the space bar which sound ''clanky'', what can i do to make it sound more thoccy and or less clanky

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im guessing stabilizers but idk

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ill take that as a yes, what stabilizer should i get?

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things are a bit hard to get here in switzerland

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sry i mean the space bar ratlles alot

wooden ember
#

i'm always going to recommend either staebies or tx ap stabilizers

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use 205g0 on the stem housing, use either dielectric grease or xht-bdz on the wires. dielectric is easy to apply and easy to clean up, but xht-bdz is a tad thicker viscosity and stays in place better (but still lubricates nicely) but it's very messy

pliant reef
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any other site u recommend, i have to pay 40 bucks for delivery on cannonkeys 😦

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switzerland

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just went through multiple sites and they all have 40 dollars shipping fees or even more KEKW

bitter oar
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Oh, wait swiss is not in the eu

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But it does share eu economy so

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I think

bitter oar
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Also, if you want something better tx stabs (but those are pcb mounted and not every pcb supports pcb mounted stabs)

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Tx stabs 3.0 from maxgaming and 5g/10g 0g205 lube

pliant reef
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thanks 🙂

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does it matter what kind of stabilizes i get

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doesnt seem to be any in my region i still get 50 dollar shipping fees

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screws

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i think

bitter oar
bitter oar
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shipping is like €8

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they usually ship to my address within 5 business days

pliant reef
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i dont understand if ''pcb mount'' means screw in

chrome raft
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My plate foam is coming tmr

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Yippe

pliant reef
bitter oar
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tx stabs 3.0 with straight wires ♥️

bitter oar
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straighten up the wires

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or just take 5 minutes of work to get the straight

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it’s not hard at all to get the perfectly straight

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anecdote.

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straighten up the wires.

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done.

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you just didn’t straighten up the wires enough then

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says a guy who uses unlubed cherry mx and recommends topre switches to everyone

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bye what

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you recommend people what you prefer not what they want

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it’s like recommending them shit they don’t care about

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ur ego is up in the skies tbh

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that you “build many” keyboards doesn’t make your opinion always right

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also, the fact you sent me to a random server just to get me banned there is hilarous

wooden ember
#

i cant tell if ya'll are friends or not

magic wolf
#

Hey guys, what can one do about stem wobble. I got some Gateron black silent ink v2s and my keycaps just wobble a lot more than on my kailh switches which have these, “catches” around the stem

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I haven’t lubed them yet but plan to very soon. But I doubt that has anything to do with it

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For more context I’m using SA profile keycaps so the height may be a factor too

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To add, on the switch stem itself, it has very minimal almost no wobble against the upper housing, my kailh switch stems wobble more. So I don’t think this is something I fix with films

magic wolf
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Caps wobble bro

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But my switches with the catchy bois don’t, but they physically wobble more

wooden ember
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Wobble is influenced by two things, housing tightness and stem to housing tolerances. A loose housing will increase wobble as the housing can wiggle about itself between the two parts because the clamping mechanism is not tight enough. Adding switch films can increase this tightness and stop the housing from wiggling around. There isn't anything you can do about any wobble that exists after that, but using caps that are taller with longer stems makes the wobble worse because of the length of the stem on the cap. Using a shorter profile cap reduces the wobble feel.

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That being said, you don't want to get rid of the wobble completely, because then tolerances may be too tight and cause the switch to not operate properly or feel sluggish.

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You also want a bit of wobble so the switch operates smoothly when you press the cap down at an off angle and not straight down.

magic wolf
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Could I possibly use thin strips of scotch tape inside my keycap stem “mounts” to function as a shim in that case?

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Oh I see

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It’s just far more than I’m used to lol

wooden ember
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Every switch is different.

magic wolf
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To be expected going from a silent tactile to a silent linear?

wooden ember
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To be expected across any brand or type of switch. Everyone has a different preference to this.

magic wolf
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I appreciate your info. I’ll lube and film them as people recommend with these switches and see if the film does the trick

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Thanks cmd

wooden ember
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Gateron's tend to benefit from switch films. I use Deskey films in my Ink Black v2 linears and they feel great

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NK_ creams, for example, are so tight even after opening them that they don't need films. They have no housing wobble at all.

magic wolf
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Deskey films, well that made it real easy. Just curious are you using plate mount and if so what material is your plate. Did you notice the black ink v2 takes a bit more force to mount properly?

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Assuming the only difference between our switches is mine having rubber on the sliders

wooden ember
#

In my two main keebs, I use FR4 plates in both of them. Since they are also both hotswap pcb's, the first insert is always the one that requires the most force, but after that they tend to go in easy. I did find that with a POM/PC plate, Black Ink v2's did seem to be a little loose and I could easily pull them out with a cap, but since switching to FR4 I haven't had a switch come out when pulling caps off yet. However, I have switched both keebs from Ink Black v2's to WS OA switches for the aesthetics and slightly heavier spring weight, plus housing material which makes a nicer thock than v2's

magic wolf
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Ah, they work real easy after the first pop then, good. At first they would like “half latch” and I had to put pressure on the side that diddnt pop in and figured that was a good sign anyway.

And man, even heavier springs. Thats wild

wooden ember
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Yeah, I sometimes have to pull up on the plate to catch the switch latch still. But usually around the edges of the plate. As for the heavier springs, it's not THAT heavy, only a little. 67g

magic wolf
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What’s a better case dampener? Multiple layers of PE.

Or

Shelf mat (this stuff)

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Or you guys use a kilmat before? (Car engine muffling material)

boreal rivet
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Cement

magic wolf
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Hardcore

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Tried something like that for my spacebar

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I call it the caulk mod

wooden ember
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Poly-fil is amazing

magic wolf
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Would you get the same experience from stuffed animal fluff as you would with a bag of the real stuff at a crafts store?

muted karma
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surface finish of them is ideal, they are straight ootb and thickness is perfect for in spec stabs to sit tight

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if you source your stab parts right you can buy like 3-5 sets of stabs for one set of TX or staebis and get arguably the same or even better results

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I put in a minimum amount of effort (clipping + lubing with a syringe of xht bdz post install, very rarely also a 205g0 with a brush post install if they scratch)
and they are perfect every time

bitter oar
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only when i paired them with long pole switches (when the switch stem didn’t go all the way into it’s housing)
little 0g205 lube fixed it

muted karma
bitter oar
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no clipping or any of that stuff, no ticking or rattle

muted karma
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For longer than i take to lube

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I spend like a minute with a syringe for a 60/tkl worth of stabs

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(while we are on the topic of you calling him out for stuff, I personally would not recommend lubing all cherry switches)

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HG browns are quite nice with just a springswap

bitter oar
#

tbh lubing tactile switches is generally meh
why not a thin layer of lube on mx blacks, reds and expecally speed silvers (who does buy it) for example

muted karma
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if they are smooth enough ye

muted karma
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only got a ton of early 90s mx blacks 💀

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I got like 1500 or something

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yea cherries are absolutely nice

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my 2 favourite builds I own are both mx blacks

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they need more effort than other switches, yes

bitter oar
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uhhh aren’t you the one who pushes everyone topre hhkb’s

muted karma
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but they never failed on the sound side for me

muted karma
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you can get them for like 150-200€

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and they tend to be good ootb

bitter oar
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like wtf

muted karma
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why not

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what "nice" mechanical board would you recommend?

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sugar65 + jc studio, maybe

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but then people that got no clue about importing stuff need to use an agent

bitter oar
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or leobog hi75 is also fine

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uh infi 75, aula f75, ajazz ak820 pro are all fine’ish boards

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definitely better than razer keyboard

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also, the fact you have to use razer synapse to basicly use one

muted karma
#

what

bitter oar
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to change key maps

muted karma
#

and what do you need for the leobog?

bitter oar
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the software uses alots of ram

bitter oar
muted karma
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it doesn't need to actively run though

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is there like anyone that showd how that board sounds without all the foam

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💀

bitter oar
muted karma
magic wolf
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you solved like 14 more problems than just keyboard remapping

muted karma
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since it supports so many devices and has so many features

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not ideal obv

magic wolf
muted karma
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yea but it is chroma and macro for how many devices

magic wolf
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that service runs even if you disable synapse on boot

magic wolf
magic wolf
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its straight up spyware, just run simplewall and install razer synapse and watch how many processes make network traffic after install

muted karma
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I mean people do

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they just do so less and less

magic wolf
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QMK/VIA/VIAL baby

muted karma
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yea just flash qmk on your razer keyboard giggle

bitter oar
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compare the foaming, stabilizers, switches are prolly fine (but maybe not on the huntsman the rev 3 razer switches sound better), moddability

magic wolf
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diddnt bother keeping it long enough to hack my huntsman into working....

bitter oar
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only razer keyboard with hotswap sockets rn is the blackwidow v4

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that’s $170 one

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and it sounds like fucking $60 one

magic wolf
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ayo does the webapp only work with chrome/chromium for you too?

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same lol

bitter oar
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it’s one of the cheaper razer sub $100 boards rn
and it sucks

muted karma
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guh message got automodded for caps Sadge

bitter oar
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then what’s better on the razer keyboards apart from the warrianty

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?

magic wolf
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how common they are I guess

bitter oar
magic wolf
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you can find em sold everywhere so you dont need to wait for stuff online

bitter oar
#

what if i want brand new

muted karma
cunning anvil
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only chrome desktop has Web hid right now 😔

muted karma
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edge does as well

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in fact all chromium browsers should support it I think

magic wolf
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yea but

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not firefox

cunning anvil
#

fr?

magic wolf
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I was stuck so long making fkin udev rules thinking thats why via diddnt work

cunning anvil
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edge and Opera

magic wolf
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does vial have precompiled firmware? It was already a rabbithole learning QMK

cunning anvil
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yeah sometimes

bitter oar
cunning anvil
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more popular is more likely obv

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some via boards only speak the protocol and don't run qmk though

bitter oar
#

le gaming company tax

magic wolf
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swing and a miss, oh well time to go into another rabbithole

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bet

cunning anvil
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yeah just wanted to put it out there

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vial is vaguely via compatible if you import the json iirc

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but not oot

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b

magic wolf
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I like how via did it, keychron q7 right there in the repo, flash it with qmk, boom. Spend more time making layers than...manual, but, vial seems overall a lot more packed than via, oh well, worth

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needed something to do rn anyway

muted karma
#

via also doesn't support as many features as vial does total

magic wolf
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right right, the one thing I'd like to set is, layer key highlighting, help you remember your layers, but, seems you cant put two actions on one key

muted karma
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but yea, ahve the issue on my hex 3cv2 where there are some features straight up not available like the rgb underglow controls

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lol

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only got one for numlock in my aek2

cunning anvil
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vial is messy with preloaded combos, combos on layers, and the ui for combos is bleh

muted karma
cunning anvil
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i like combos though so

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ymmv

magic wolf
#

My dudes beepin 🔥

cunning anvil
#

mx lock looks cool

muted karma
#

previous owner retrobrighted it

magic wolf
#

The power of the solder iron

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I’m sorry but do you need gas tanks to run this kinda kit

magic wolf
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oh my god this is so much better than via @patent belfry

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thanks for the push

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🤝 🥂

muted karma
#

💀 why is there red mist on your desktop

magic wolf
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oled burn in

cunning anvil
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you use arch btw?

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looks like bg transparency

muted karma
cunning anvil
tight tinsel
#

this may be a sacrilege question, but I have a mac for work and I am looking for keycaps that represent the mac multimedia keys (brightness, play, pause, mission control, etc.). Ideally MDA or Cherry profile. Anyone know where these might be available?

tight tinsel
#

thanks--ill look into it

magic wolf
#

just tried out polyfil, I see why people love it

not for you if you're trying to maximize silence

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gasket boing

pliant reef
#

how to make keyboard creamy?
I have a keychron k8 pro with ws morandi switches.

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sounds very clacky?

chrome raft
#

The amazon foam made it less thocky

chrome raft
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No one says creamy

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It is not thocky

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Sounds like clack now

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Wasted 15.81 smh

pliant reef
cunning anvil
#

schleffy

pliant reef
#

Is this clacky or am i just acoustic

chrome raft
#

Yeah the foam is shit

chrome raft
pliant reef
chrome raft
pliant reef
#

have to cut the video real quick

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Might just be me idk im not a keyboard professional

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Keyboard sound really rattly ordered some new stabilizers and grease tho

magic wolf
pliant reef
#

hahahahahahah why tho

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keychron k8 with ws morandi switches

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might it be the keycaps?

bitter oar
# pliant reef

fill it with something once you open the keyboard, atleast tape mod if possible.

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sounds hollow ya and rattly

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do PE foam mod if the keyboard doesnt have one

pliant reef
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keychron is filled with a big piece of silicon

magic wolf
#

a square of electrical tape between the top and bottom case where the screws thread in* does a lot for how easy it is too

pliant reef
#

idk if there is even any space for foam

magic wolf
#

thats not the tape mod I think its called the break mod

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force break

pliant reef
#

see how it works

magic wolf
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never used etape for the pcb, dont have enough

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cant vouch for it

pliant reef
#

what kinda tape should i use, i have a battery in my keyboard, normal tape would probably burn

magic wolf
#

You only need to worry about that if there’s a short or exposed wire. Don’t be dumb unplugging your connectors and you’ll be fine

magic wolf
#

Won’t be the same for everyone but this ugly thing works for me

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Stuff your stab keys with random shit

pliant reef
magic wolf
#

more weight on the bar helps with that stab twang from springing back up

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what other home cookin.... uhhh...

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can you steal some sparkplug grease from your dads garage?

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keychron did the lazy lube on the stabs

pliant reef
#

bzd

magic wolf
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dang, Ive seen dielectric at gas stations, uhhh

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experiment with case dampeners, wont be the same result for everyone but at least its fun and cheap unless you're looking into like, the precut kilmats

pliant reef
#

does it matter what kind of tape i use for the pcb

magic wolf
#

most use painters and most people have a lot of painters

pliant reef
#

ok thank

magic wolf
#

I like using this for my case, it’s shelf matting. But all it does is dampen everything

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I recently tried polyfil which a lotta people like and it’s really fun with gaskets

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But I personally like silent keyboards

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Most popular is PE foam. Just 1-2 sheets is what I’ve seen most people do

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In case you don’t know PE foam is just this

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You probably have it in old Amazon boxes

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He already is and it sounds awful

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thats about all the home keyboard cookin I know of

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oh yea if you're feeling zesty you can holee mod your stabs

pliant reef
magic wolf
#

its easier than you think to put a good amount in there, but the more you do the more gasket you gimp

pliant reef
#

This should do right?

magic wolf
#

isnt that what comes with keychrons

pliant reef
magic wolf
#

better than nothing

pliant reef
#

Ill just lay it on the silicon and see how it sounds

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But the hollow sound doesnt come from keycaps nor the switches right?

magic wolf
#

everything I just told you here is in reality just gonna make your keyboard quieter but at least some of that hollowness should be muffled out a good bit

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it comes from everything

pliant reef
magic wolf
#

its like a soup

pliant reef
#

What kind of keycaps would you recommend?

magic wolf
#

thats too personal for me to just give you a random thing

pliant reef
#

I have the some glorious pudding keycaps layin around

pliant reef
magic wolf
#

im not very experienced with a lot of aftermarket caps, pcbs, hell even lubing switches

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the tall profile also....demands I bust out the wrist rest

#

but

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they sound better than cherry / oem profile I used before

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see what I mean?

#

its not so straightforward

pliant reef
#

Yeah i understand

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Ill just try out what i have layin around

#

I really want to buy the cerakey creamic keycaps too

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Gotta save up a lil bit

magic wolf
#

dont expect the "right ones" right away, you'll develop a taste

pliant reef
#

Ill add some foam now, thanks for the advice

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Cant type now

magic wolf
#

yeh, have fun

chrome raft
#

My fav vendor is ash keebs or apexkeyboards for lube

pliant reef
chrome raft
#

Why u overlapping it

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Its gonna damage the wires

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Cut a hole where it’s supposed to be

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Overlap

chrome raft
pliant reef
chrome raft
pliant reef
chrome raft
pliant reef
chrome raft
pliant reef
chrome raft
#

Just a bit so its flat

pliant reef
chrome raft
#

Cut the wire thats plugged into the pcb

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And then overlap

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And resolder

pliant reef
#

Cutting the wire will fkn burn my house down

pliant reef
#

Ill just twist the copper inside the wire should work too

chrome raft
chrome raft
#

Cut it

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And retwist

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Show me when ur done

pliant reef
#

Ok

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But no fr i know it dont look the best but does it look safe

magic wolf
#

At what point did people change from worrying about damaging an expensive thing, to, will poking this explode my house

pliant reef
#

Here in switzerland we say things like that but we dont mean it

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What im tryna say is just if that looks fine

magic wolf
#

what he said to do was og territory, all you really need to do is make one cut in the entire foam where the wire would be

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thats it

pliant reef
#

Oh my bad

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The red and black wire

#

What if i dont? Its a very light foam

magic wolf
#

did you get to learn what a short circuit is

pliant reef
#

The wire aint open tho

magic wolf
#

youre fine

pliant reef
#

Ok 👍🏿

chrome raft
pliant reef
magic wolf
#

dudes treating this like nurses first open heart surgery rn

pliant reef
#

I already built everything back

pliant reef
#

Im from switzerland

#

There aint no jokes over here

#

It made it a bit better

cunning anvil
#

trying to decide if i want to keep with my extended thumbs unisplit, or make a 4x10 ortho

chrome raft
#

How does penny mod work

magic wolf
magic wolf
#

Oh cmon

chrome raft
#

Oh i understand

#

Like drift

#

Ohhh

#

Nah

magic wolf
#

Thank god

chrome raft
#

But i heard it makes it sound deeper

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Plus its a free mod

#

Cuz pennys arent useable in Canada

magic wolf
#

Placebo imo but I haven’t done it

#

There’s a valid use for more weight tho

chrome raft
#

I got a plastic board

magic wolf
#

There’s a great keybored video that can answer that way better than I could

boreal rivet
#

Cement

magic wolf
#

Caulk mod

chrome raft
#

I used foam

chrome raft
magic wolf
boreal rivet
#

Remember

#

Heavier is better quality

chrome raft
#

But what could i do

#

Like cotton mod?

magic wolf
#

PSA: if you caulk mod make sure to put in your sacrificial switches BEFORE you pour

magic wolf
magic wolf
#

Start here

chrome raft
#

Hes the the dumbest dumbest dumber and the superior dumbest keyboard person

magic wolf
#

Idc

#

I think thinking you’re better than random people reading a chat history is dumb

boreal rivet
#

You’re all dumb 👍

chrome raft
#

U confuse me

#

More then him

fossil scaffold
#

what would you guys say is the best price to performance analog keyboard currently on the market?

magic wolf
#

Hard to say, keyboards arnt like graphics cards or monitors. “Performance” isn’t really a thing. It’s more of a taste thing

fossil scaffold
#

true, how about price to build quality? or like is there a specific analog keyboard that you might recommend?

magic wolf
#

Unless you’ve been in this hobby for a while and have a good variety of boards to work with, it’s hard to really judge that. I can tell you what I observed over like 12 years of shit keyboard after shit keyboard then finally now have something I actually enjoy using

safe temple
#

Anyone know if there's some red 3rd party key caps that would fit a hyperx origins core alloy keyboard or is it the same as standard kaycaps.

boreal rivet
magic wolf