peripherals

[bitter oar]

mmm

[boreal rivet]

you can buy mx clears and fuck your keycaps for cheaper

[bitter oar]

what’s your opinjon on ws mondari

and venus

…

[boreal rivet]

average linear recolour that I don't care about

[bitter oar]

huh

by recolour you mean change in materials?

[kindred oracle]

my keyboard wont work on my new pc but works on every other device how do i fix that

[bitter oar]

and you say you i shouldn’t judge topre switches that i never tried

[boreal rivet]

you're comparing apples to oranges

[bitter oar]

type all switches you’ve ever owned

[boreal rivet]

why don't you start

took me quitting the hobby to realise memes are temporary but topre is forever

[bitter oar]

ws mondari, gateron milky yellow - x47’s, x3’s, pros, about to try ktt mints/cabbage/darling, gateron reds, designer studio qung ji switches (whatever i can’t remember), gat black v2’s, oil kings, kailh reds (yes cringe but whatever it came to my mind), and other trashy switches you don’t care abt

[boreal rivet]

fr

[bitter oar]

about to try leobog reapers because i bought aula f75

[boreal rivet]

i expected more ngl

[bitter oar]

these came to my mind tbh

if i would include trash tier switches it would span ee

so, now your turn

[boreal rivet]

topre 55g, 45g, skcm brown, orange, salmon, blue, black, skcl yellow, skcc green, matias quiet click, rog rx blue, red, og holy pandas, gat ink v1, milky yellow, tangies, cherry mx black (vint), brown, blue, red, box white, navy, jade, royal, aristotle white, whatever gazzew's gen 1 tactiles were

oh yes and mx lock

i wish i never sold that one

[crisp patrol]

maybe aged/more tactile switches but otherwise they feel like shit

[bitter oar]

so, 50% cherry, 35% alpca, 15% other? yeah, i’d also categorize tangerines as a special one, they sound unique. tho, i don’t like them.. i had a single switch tho, and i managed to break the mechanism because i didn’t use proper switch opener

[boreal rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/a506-gif-20756721

[crisp patrol]

clones of alps basic designs are vile

[boreal rivet]

send me one

leftover distributor stock?

[bitter oar]

had rog rx too, decent sound and especally feel for gamery keyboard tho, i didn’t like the low initial force and actuation forc

[boreal rivet]

yes rx was good

too bad its not mx mount

[bitter oar]

also, why aren’t nk creams in meme category

[crisp patrol]

basic alps are a meme

[bitter oar]

we’re

they’re just okay now

but, the price is what matters

the memes about when you don’t lube them

[crisp patrol]

decent chiclet board

[boreal rivet]

yes that has been established

[bitter oar]

try ws mondaris
$0.45~

your barebone kits cost 3+ times over that

also, you can save some lube on them, they come decently factory lubed tbh

definitely not hand level lubing job

but, it does work

it’s not dry like some other “pre-lubed” switches

[boreal rivet]

so if one is not satisfied with the factory lube job

they have to remove the factory lube and apply their own

literally paying extra for more work

[bitter oar]

i believe there is also non lubed version

[bitter oar]

time for some mixing in isopropyl hehe

@patent belfry try them

how many barebone kits you own

or assembled keyboards

how is that too much then

and… how much do they cost each

how is it mid

it’s basicly severely improved gateron milky yellow

[crisp patrol]

mx mid 🥱

[limpid oyster]

Gat Milk yellows are $0.12 each on KBDfans atm

[manic saffron]

Can anyone recommend me any good low profile keyboard with backlit?

[carmine mesa]

are they good? i've been thinking of getting some

[boreal rivet]

K100 air

[manic saffron]

unfortunately not available in India, any other recommendation?

[boreal rivet]

Realforce

[carmine mesa]

what's a good 75% that's below 100?

[cunning tide]

Are there some low profile switches you recommend?

[spiral mica]

monsgeek m1, rainy 75 or keychron v1 if you want one that is less expensive

[carmine mesa]

are epsilon switches good

[carmine mesa]

any aluminum ones

[spiral mica]

m1 and rainy 75 are alu

I think m1 is a lot cheaper on aliexpress

[carmine mesa]

if it's on aliexpress will it be cheaper quality?

[spiral mica]

its the same, a lot of my own keyboards are from taobao (aliexpress but china only)

[carmine mesa]

oh ok

thanks

why do keycaps cost so much?

[forest pond]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-04/microsoft-ai-copilot-keyboard-new-key-is-msft-s-biggest-change-in-years?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTcwNDM2OTE5NywiZXhwIjoxNzA0OTczOTk3LCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJTNlBQN0JUMEcxS1cwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiI5MUY0OUVGQkVCMzU0MDAzOUI2ODRCQ0YwNEUyMjYxRSJ9.lHd6K5t4ay9c41yadDmw7fsduL5ODh585L-WQ0qiQVE

[cunning anvil]

is it a new keycode or just a shortcut lol

[forest pond]

It can't be used in combination with other keys, so I'd guess it's a shortcut

[limpid oyster]

Only thing about monsgeek boards are they are pretty clacky no matter what you do.

[snow willow]

Hi people! Can I request some advice on a new keyboard? Would like to find a "full" or 96% wireless keyboard with some decent tactile switches (will be mostly used for productivity with a mac setup and a bit of light gaming")

[limpid oyster]

Friend of mine uses a Keychron V5. Its a 96% with Brown switches. Its got specific settings for mac layout and has been her go to for a few months now. Barebones or fully built for under $75
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v5-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard

The prebuild version includes mac keycaps as well so you dont have to go hunting down more.

[boreal rivet]

FC980C or realforce for mac

[snow willow]

Thanks, will check it out!

[snow willow]

Thank you, will check if I can find those one from europe without spending a ton on shipping

[opal shore]

Should I get the Gamakay K87? I'm thinking Gateron Yellows

[bitter oar]

ajazz ak820 pro

aula f75 from taobao

[cunning tide]

is there a way to stop my keyboards rgb to fade away after some time so i dont need to press a key for it to glow again

[limpid oyster]

what board do you have?

[lost cobalt]

how good is the neo65

[limpid oyster]

For roughly $100 pretty good if your looking at an alum drop in 65.

[wooden ember]

Jesus fucking hell. I just put TX stabs in my space65 and fuuuuuck it's already so much better. No ticks 1st time

[carmine mesa]

this a good keyboard?

[bitter oar]

i’d suggest leobog hi75 at $50~

[carmine mesa]

is it aluminum?

im looking for an aluminum one

[bitter oar]

yes

[bitter oar]

rev 3.0 or 4.0

[carmine mesa]

epic

[bitter oar]

rev 3.0’s are better tbh, 4.0’s too tight

[carmine mesa]

are the epsilon switches good?

[bitter oar]

tx 3.0 don’t need lube

[carmine mesa]

i heard them and they sound hot asf

but they cost quite a bit

[bitter oar]

tho, they sound better lubed

ws mondari’s are good

@carmine mesa

mid price

good factory lube job

[spring jacinth]

Bought a Lemokey L3 with Gateron Jupiter Banana
And just found out they are like the worst type of Linear switches

Should I get new ones?
What are the best?

[carmine mesa]

are there any other ones that sound like those for a cheaper price?

[wooden ember]

AP's which I think are v4's?

[bitter oar]

probably, but i have vertigo just looking up all of those different switches and looking for a gem

ws mondaris go often in sale, atleast in europe

[bitter oar]

oh, yeah

[bitter oar]

cool the purple version has purple box?

tought there was only yellow/white box

[wooden ember]

they are all purple. This was a black kit and I have a pink-ish kit, same color box

[bitter oar]

/blue for plate mounted or smth

[bitter oar]

uh… mine was yellow tho

or white

same set

white rev 4.0’s and white rev 3.0’s

1.2mm long pole and 1.6mm standart

[wooden ember]

Mint set, not pink lol

[bitter oar]

why is the packpaging purpel then

odd choice from tx hehe

[wooden ember]

idk i didnt make them lol

i just ordered them

[bitter oar]

sadly, long pole rev 3.0’s are hard to get

[carmine mesa]

hard to find hot switches

[bitter oar]

gat yellows x47’s old goat switches

[bitter oar]

ktt cabages/mint/sea salt are fine

[carmine mesa]

yo 27 for 1120 switches? wtf

[bitter oar]

also, the describtion “sea salt” really fits the sound profile compared to the mints

[bitter oar]

give

where

[carmine mesa]

https://www.gateron.co/products/gateron-ks-3x47-milky-switch-set

idk if real

what switches are like deep feeling

deep sound

pro sound

[bitter oar]

ws mondari if you don’t want heavy switch

they are relative deep + creamy

[carmine mesa]

where to fid

find

[bitter oar]

wuque website i believe, aliexpress and maxgaming (europe)

atleast these three

[carmine mesa]

i can't find any hearing test

[bitter oar]

there are multiple on youtube

even hipyo made sound test i believe in one of his videos

[carmine mesa]

oh okay

maybe i didn't look right

[bitter oar]

they are basicly improved gateron milky yellows

feel like them

but sound better and have basicly 0 scratch

[carmine mesa]

this is going to be an epic first build

i have this cat keyboard i bought for no reason lol

[bitter oar]

doesn’t cost a kidney per switch

[bitter oar]

$0.45> usd

you can buy it from wuque’s website

aliexpress, and other

kinetic labs..

https://www.amazon.com/OOCTPK-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-Facutory/dp/B0CGDQYBTW i mean you can buy them from amazon but they cost more than $0.45

(not sold by amazon)

maxgaming had them on sale for $0.33 a switch a while ago

they go on sale like every month or so

not sure about shipping price from maxgaming to us

weren’t you the one who criticized me at first when i said topre sounds like overlubed black switch

i mean, rating switch just by appereance is..

i mean they’re hard to describe so,

they sound like improved gateron milky yellows

alot improved

they aren’t scratchy at all

by stock

they have the “honey” type feeling

hard to describe

no?

they have well balance of thock and creaminess

ofc not the best switch

but it is one of the better ones

it’s about preference remember?

do you like creamy-marbly keyboards

[crisp patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/salamaleikum-nebesa-visoki-cat-sleep-gif-26486949

[bitter oar]

hipyo has mid opinions, but the contect quality is fine

also, you don’t need to have so up high your ego… the hobby is about… pre fe ren ce

you remove foam from you keyboards

i like more foam

no, but what do you call “meme switch” which criteria does it need to surpass the non meme and meme line

facts, but if switch B. copy is cheaper linear recolour than A. original and does the job better than the old by having better factory lube or slighly different mix of materials… is that still. meme switch

it isn’t expensive either

look how many switches are still $0.60-0.70

you don’t have to lube them..

one of the best factory lubing

not dry and not overlubed either

saves work for me

[limpid oyster]

I'll take my Black Lotus switches over pretty much anything cherry makes

[bitter oar]

you are joking right

this has to be fr

you don’t mind the scratchiness?

[crisp patrol]

idk that's pretty cheap to me

[bitter oar]

i don’t believe you

[crisp patrol]

orange alps are like a buck a switch

[bitter oar]

not lubing black switches is a war crime

[crisp patrol]

yeah

just saying lol

[bitter oar]

he doesn’t even lube them fr

[crisp patrol]

hipyo is just a phase

[limpid oyster]

I'll definately take my black lotus's over anything unlubed by cherry

[crisp patrol]

gonna be messing around with some soon

and potentially modding some

cream dampened with 62g dual stage kalih springs

I forget what it was exactly that they're supposed to feel like but iirc it was sckm browns

[bitter oar]

tbh my biggest nightmare was probably cherry mx silver/speed

[crisp patrol]

I just avoid mx entirely since opinions vary so much and tactility is better on alps (supposedly)

I need to try an f660c sometime

they seem to actually be tactile

[bitter oar]

breathes
yes, it’s preference but i don’t believe they’re not scratchy

which mic and distance

valid

so, which switches are stock and aren’t scratchy at all according to you

i can buy them

from maxgaming

they sell pieces individually and i don’t mind spending a dollar or two

they don’t have every switch tho

[carmine mesa]

damm that looks expensive

[bitter oar]

they have vast majority of the more popular ones

yes

yesterday

[carmine mesa]

i can finally build a keyboard

[bitter oar]

i still don’t believe they’re not scratchy

[carmine mesa]

hi75 with morandi switches

idk what keycaps yet

[bitter oar]

any preference for keycap profile

[carmine mesa]

what does the apex pro tlk have?

i like these

[bitter oar]

what about those akko $30 keycaps mm

[carmine mesa]

30 dollars is good price

[bitter oar]

about mid price for 1.5-1.7mm thick keycaps

may buy one too

tho, another cherry/oem keycap set

yikes

no wonders they want to do clearance

how thick are they

bruh this looks disgusting

dusty grey is my least faw

grey

[carmine mesa]

those are hotter

[bitter oar]

along with the coloured legends tbh

100% better

looks like the fill in 7days

crossaint

[carmine mesa]

creams are nice

[bitter oar]

wow, they really want to sell you 3 keycaps sets lol

i mean… not everyone needs 3 sets

people would be more happy for 30% discount per set

i still find funny how much people pay for plastic

200 switches cost less than your avg gmk set

2000????

yikes you’re really attached to them

do you know any mda/xda keycaps at around $30~

clones?

[cedar acorn]

Can someone recommend some 75% red switch keyboards

gonna be gamin

also only ordering off of amazon

[bitter oar]

does it have to be red switch or just behave like one

[bitter oar]

kinda missing alot but ok

[cedar acorn]

Well i'd prefer red switch, but i'd also go for something similar

maybe even some different ones

as long as they're linear

[cedar acorn]

not my choice really

[bitter oar]

@cedar acorn https://www.amazon.com/AJAZZ-AK820PRO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Display/dp/B0CJ56QMV1

[cedar acorn]

checking it out rn

[cedar acorn]

what are the switches on it like?

[bitter oar]

linear

gift switch

[cedar acorn]

hmm

[bitter oar]

factory lubed

[cedar acorn]

not a big fan of the whitish purplish color since it won't match my setup

not gonna be switching any keycaps

[bitter oar]

there is also black version

and lime one

@patent belfry what do you think? $13 from ali

[cedar acorn]

ah ok but it doesn't show up as a variation on the page

[bitter oar]

tho, it doesn’t have the $10 coupon

@cedar acorn actually https://www.amazon.com/EPOMAKER-Mechanical-Keyboard-Gasket-Mounted-Bluetooth/dp/B0CMWJSQMB/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3HU6COXPJZ9MH&keywords=ajazz%2Bak820%2Bpro&qid=1704415203&sprefix=%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-3&th=1

then there’s aula f75 but, it doesn’t have a screen. and i’d recommend buying it from taobao, as it is cheaper there. and the black version is unfortunaly more than the glacier one so, i’d probably skip the aula

[cedar acorn]

How big of a difference will wireless make over wired when gaming?

[bitter oar]

you won’t notice it through 2.4

it has good latency response

[cedar acorn]

How does this one hold up: https://www.amazon.com/RK-ROYAL-KLUDGE-Mechanical-Hot-Swappable/dp/B0BRZ2MH1Z/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2F9QN7VYTW1Z3&keywords=rk%2Broyal%2Bkludge%2Bm75&qid=1704415195&s=electronics&sprefix=rk%2Broyal%2Bkludge%2Bm75%2Celectronics%2C154&sr=1-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0&th=1
Comes with red switches and it's got a $30 coupon (my maximum budget is also around $80)

[bitter oar]

nah

[cedar acorn]

what are the cons?

[bitter oar]

sound

[cedar acorn]

never really considered that as a problem for me as i'll be wearing a headset most of the time

[bitter oar]

well, then it’s alright. tho, i don’t think they’re decent enough value to be considered good in 2023-4

[cedar acorn]

i see. will keep searching though

[bitter oar]

try taobao, they have really great stuff there

[cedar acorn]

alr gonna check

goofy

why are ajazz keyboards so often recommended in this server yet almost all of their products have zero to barely any reviews or ratings

both on their website and amazon

[limpid oyster]

Branding and marketing. If you look up a keyboard, its usually going to be one of the bigger companies like Corsair, Razer, Logitech, ect. I had no idea what a keychron was my first time i herd of it. Or a Meletrix, Epomaker, Glorious. Smaller companies cant complete with the amazon algorithms.

Also its like 1 in 20 people actually leave a review on amazon, much less when the people usually buying those kinds of products are going to places like aliexpress to get it for like half the price.

[cedar acorn]

True but it's a bit different with keychron and other brands like rk which have products with numbers of ratings in the thousands. Ajazz products are really similar in quality and a bit cheaper in price than those others on amazon so it just seems like they got the shorter end of the stick.

but yea branding and marketing is likely their biggest flaw

[limpid oyster]

Keychron is starting to get more popular. I live right next to a Microcenter and they have their own little section now.

[small palm]

Rk h81 or rk t75

[wooden ember]

Anyone have experience in Drop keycap sets, like the ones in MT3 and DCX? Are they decent quality similar to GMK?

[limpid oyster]

They are fairly good. They are thick like GMK. I dont like the profile of them, but if you like it, more power to you.

[wooden ember]

I like the CYL profile from GMK, and it seems that DCX is similar so I am interested in those. I have never used MT3 profile, so I was curious if anyone used and/or liked those

[limpid oyster]

I used them once when i friend brought over a drop LOTR board that had them. They aren't for me. very slmilar to SA profile and are very polarizing.

[wooden ember]

which is? The MT3 is similar to SA?

they both seem rather tall for a keycap

[chrome raft]

currently have an rk61 swapped with akko matcha greens. Im looking to upgrade and Im willing to spend around 100-150 but def not over 200. I also kind of want to do custom but I don't think I know enough to do a custom. Any reccomendations?

[wooden ember]

usually full customs dont come with switches and caps, might get lucky depending on what you find

rainy75 is a cheap all in one custom that seems pretty decent

should fit the budget well

customs aren't much different than prebuilts except for that customs aren't mass produced, so the quality tends to be higher (and so does the cost as a result)

if you want a good sub 200 case with no switches and caps, I recommend the neo65. it will get you into the customs realm as long as you have an idea of what you want for parts (mostly comes down to what plate do you want, other than that you can pick whatever other options you want that will only really amount to cosmetics)

If you want to learn about switches, plates, some custom keebs in general you can find good resources through TaehaTypes, Alex Sotos, Badseedtech, Keybored

they have a lot of resources regarding materials, switch profiles, lubing, foams, etc

[carmine mesa]

yooo another person with a 3ds

w

[boreal rivet]

Mt3 requires more precision when typing due to a smaller surface area

It’s also much more textured than SA

Other than that both are tall which exacerbate wobble

[chrome raft]

Where can I buy the rainy 75

wobkey?

[wooden ember]

that or their kickstarter

looks like it launches in 5 days

[boreal rivet]

You should buy a realforce instead

[drifting mauve]

I finally went ahead and just bought these keycaps

They're not black, they're not backlit
but it would be so long until I can even afford to custom order the ideal keycap I don't even care

I may as well have something in its place for now

[tall tapir]

Gotta list of what kinda keyboard imma build

Keychron V1 max (barebones with knob)
Akko v3 creamy black pros / Akko v3 creamy yellow pros (depending on what’s the better deal when purchasing)
Some EVA-01 keycaps

sound good?

[boreal rivet]

sounds pretty mediocre

you should buy a realforce instead

[pliant reef]

The middle switch wont fully go in (not bc of the pins) it still works but it just doesnt fully go in. Can i still leave it like that or should i put the old switch back in that one key

[pliant reef]

you mean the switch itself or the board?

its not bc of the switch

I tried the other switches from other keys and all of them wont fit

i think its bc of the board

u reckon i can just leave it like that

still works and its the number 1 key sooo

[opal shore]

Okay

[dusty remnant]

first custom board let’s go

[tall tapir]

Oh yeah, that’s super affordable fuckin dumbass

It’s literally 400 cad

that’s more then my fucking graphics card

[tall tapir]

I can only find r models

[cunning tide]

is it just me that has a board that is very hard to open or i just have a skill issue

[crisp patrol]

cheap

[tall tapir]

💀

Yeah 400$ is so cheap

and?

You can still get a decent keyboard for cheap

this channel isn’t dedicated to expensive keyboards

[bitter oar]

it’s about preferences
and i’d suggest ignoring these guys as they think realforces - topre and unlubed mx blacks are the best.
there’s no such thing as “best switch” or “best keyboard” and even if, topre isn’t the best all rounder

[tall tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[bitter oar]

It’s YOUR preference, not what other people want or need tbh

[tall tapir]

he isnt

[bitter oar]

i’m not

[cunning anvil]

cfx spacing

anyone daily that?

[bitter oar]

every time i see those keycaps i’m temped to eat them

[crisp patrol]

correct

cad especially

[tall tapir]

💀

[carmine mesa]

that looks clean

[dusty remnant]

thanks, waiting on zooted Gordal to arrive then this build will be complete

[cedar acorn]

Hey guys what are the ajazz flying fish switches like, and are they similar to reds

[bitter oar]

gift switches then

flying fisch’ is tactile ib

yeah, gift switch is going to be better than your average cherry mx red, gateron switch tbh

they’re not great but, not bad either

good tho for what you get with $50 keyboard

[cedar acorn]

huh i've heard that they're linear

friend of mine owns an ajazz keyboard with em

[bitter oar]

oh, yup they’re linear mb

[cedar acorn]

yea

[bitter oar]

tought they’re light tactile switch vs the gift switch

[cedar acorn]

oh nice

[bitter oar]

personally, i’d go for the gift switches

[cedar acorn]

switches seem pretty decent for a $60 keyboard

[bitter oar]

but, it’s preference so,

[cedar acorn]

well ig it's all up to personal preference lol

[carmine mesa]

what's that

[bitter oar]

Does anyone know some hidden cheap gem keyboards?

similiar to ajazz ak820 pro or such

like aula f75

[carmine mesa]

those look cool

[boreal rivet]

Hhkb from china

[spiral mica]

infi75

I got mine for under 70 usd

fully built and sounds great out of the box

[limpid oyster]

I just tried for the last hour to make the Wuque WS stabs sound even halfway decent and man they are a load of garbage compared to even durocks.

I will say its on a cheap gamakay board that I mess around on, but still.

[spiral mica]

ws stab sucks

I tried to use it on my zoom65 and it sounded horrible

[limpid oyster]

After the last hour i 1000% believe it.

I was just messing around. I have Durocks on both my zoom boards

[wooden ember]

which ws stabs are you talking about?

the tpu or the silicone or the 3.1 version?

i bought two of the tpu versions (the one with the wire wrapped in tpu) but I never put them in. I ended up getting tx stabs first and honestly, they work amazing. So I probably wont use the ws stabs. At least the ws stabs weren't expensive so I will keep them and use them on keebs I wont ever do anything other than display with (like some 60%'s I bought)

[muted karma]

skill issue

[slender tide]

my desk broke

[bitter oar]

yeah, i know abt the infi 75, how did you get it for $70 usd? isn’t it $109 - $4 coupon?

any other keyboards?

[spiral mica]

I got it on taobao

[bitter oar]

ohh

[bitter oar]

get some tx stabs or staebies

i’d get tx stabs tho

they’re bit cheaper and imo sound better

both are good tho

yeah, you don’t. need to holy mod tx stabs at all

nor lube

unlike crappy cherry stabs or durocks

bro ur spilling up shit

they still tick

yes they do

i mean if you over-overlubed them nothing ticks then

but who wants mushy stabs

bro, cherry stabs don’t have tight enough clipped in wires to the base, i’ve tried to balance wire them, 3 different amount of lube and they still we’re ticking

try some tx stabs tbh

which rev and batch

4.0’s are bad i agree

if you get good batched 3.0 it’s alr

3.0’s had some really bad batches

yes, because i bought two sets and one of the wires were almost origami

at the same time

the second one was straight

or just straighten it up

phone display works

or some industrial block of steel idk

have you tried to straighten up the wires ever?

why staebies dogshit

are there even any better stabs

wym

i feel like you’re strongly attached to anything that’s “mx”

man, so every switch that is not made from cherry is a clone right?

..

yes, but, improved cherry mx ≠ clone

you could pretty much call clone everything this way

i mean you could also say cherry is an improved version of alps

or a clone

more than 30 years

btw which mouse and monitor do you have

alr

i mean, they’re valid options

?

Not many tbh

rn i have few

lastest boards i’ve had we’re monsgeek m1 w akko panda keycaps, ws mondari, tx stabs, which i already don’t have
modded gmmk2 lost nerves and just sold it when the hotswap socked popped out
some ciy tester board
infi 75 is prolly only one that sounds near good
other boards i sold
i’m a type that buys stuff and sells them a year later
same with monitors, mice
i don’t really have boards rn
i also didn’t have money a year ago and had to sell stuff along with my rtx 3060 ti (combination of dissatisfaction and broke)

Not pretty boards tbh

planning to buy rainy 75
and aula f75 will ship to me in about a week

i like plastic boards
don’t judge

i like more clacky than thocky

i’m recommending them so,

do you know of any gems?

such as the aula f75

no… i usually think about for a week until i buy a keyboard

anyway, do you know of any gems

brand new i mean

there always is something

i didn’t know about the aula f75 until i found it

at $30 it’s insane value

eh, it’s pretty good

for the price

epomaker th80 level

yes

what do you think about the rainy 75

no

why do you have 50 keyboards

why tho

it’s basicly zoom75 (yes also budget keyboard) but whatever without a screen, etc

basicly yes but also no

actually the aula f75 has decent gasket performance

[chrome raft]

Can sum 1 help me i really need help

I posed a whole story on what happened on the tec help thing

[bitter oar]

the infi 75 has uneven gasket performance

the keys in the same row sound alot more different

than other boards

for example

also, by bad pcb you mean it doesn’t support via/qmk?

north facing?

[chrome raft]

So is anyone able to help me?

I did in the tech help page

Tech support

Ik

Its about a keyboard

Well the thing is i dont think it was that bc iv tried all 4 of my keyboards that ik 100% works and they didnt work

Idk

I did

And usb ports

[bitter oar]

even your high end pcb can be defective tbh

[chrome raft]

Iv turned of my pc and turned it back on

[bitter oar]

doesn’t mean it cannot happen.
i’ve never had a budget pcb dying up on me

not even those $20 gaemer keyboards

[chrome raft]

Ima just copy and paste

So this morning i turned on my pc and my key turned on per usual during the boot when it got to the home screen it turned off so i when and clicked the space bar and it wouldn’t turn on so i changed the usb port and its fine so I changed the cable and the kb still didnt work so i got another keyboard and plugged it in and any keyboard i plug in doesnt work iv unplugged everything except my kb and it still doesn’t work iv also tried restarting my pc every time but nothing is working

[bitter oar]

defective, bad luck

[chrome raft]

Thats exactly what has happened

[bitter oar]

could had the same issue

have you tried to test them with oscilloscope

[chrome raft]

Just lmk when ur available

Ill try and find my mom’s laptop rq

Well i didnt bc all my other stuff works on all of the usb prots

Ports

Other keyboards

U gata read the whole thing 😂

I am?

[bitter oar]

ib it’s almost impossible to fry motherboad usbs

[chrome raft]

I don’t even know that the “registry data is”

And no

I just turned on my pc and it wasnt working

I cant get into windows😂

With out a kb

Wtf is that

Iv never seen that in windows

To type in a pw

?

Ik what it is but iv never seen it on windows

😂

I do

But i didnt know windows had it

But i dont how to with windows😐

I told u that

I cant enable it from the homescreen

No i cant

Theres supposed to be a little icon beside the wifi but theres not

Thats where it tells me to go

Found it

Idk

U dont gata be a dick head abt it

Ok

[drifting mauve]

Why do so many keyboard enthusiasts use an mx master?

[bitter oar]

it’s kinda just easy pick

turn off the rgb

[boreal rivet]

brother you need a better dac

SMSL is so ass

they literally named one of their products SU-X

whats in mind for the replacement

ah

soekris is quite good

don't fall for the r2r memes though

I'd suggest looking at the exogal comet, prismsound callia/lyra2, apogee symphony desktop and dangerous convert 2

comet has been very well received among many of the hardcore audiophiles I know, but discontinued

DC2 is also good but extremely flavoured and might not mesh well with your setup

although tbh I'd personally just get better speakers lol

not impressed?

right

well I'll just say that many people i know have just transitioned to speakers after realising that headphones aren't really worth meming

[drifting mauve]

I find the outdated aesthetic of my m65 charming in a sort of ironic way
It reminds me of the good old days
Its also a super comfortable mouse imo

however using icue software is so unbelievably dreadful ide rather lick a maggot infested rug that hasent been cleaned since the 1800's

[boreal rivet]

to add to this, the bricasti m1 blows these out of the water

they sometimes come up used for under 3k

[drifting mauve]

Walk into a magnolia in a best buy if there's one near you lol

plenty of middle aged audiophiles there
If they have "Consultant" or "Designer" on there name tag then they are someone who knows what they're talking about

[drifting mauve]

That's because it hasn't changed since the early 2000's

[onyx escarp]

i am considering getting one of these https://steelseries.com/gaming-keyboards/apex-5?language=english and i am used to having and still need slovak characters like ť, ý, é, č. is there a way to still be able to type them?

[muted karma]

keys would still work

but why would you buy an apex 5

[onyx escarp]

what keyboard do you reccomend?

[muted karma]

bruh

if you ping me just leave it there

what is your budget

where can you even buy something

what are your requirements

[onyx escarp]

well like i said mostly the slovak characters

and price 100€ at most id like

slovakian not slovenian

yeah but is it typabl. i ont think just changing the cpas changes the input..

[muted karma]

it's not an "if it doesn't"

it's standardized keycodes

any ISO board will send the same ones

yes

exactly

[onyx escarp]

well then

so what keyboard should i even get?

apex 5 seems like a solid choice but i there might be something better/cheaper

[bitter oar]

budget?

that’s a hard one

maybe endorfy makes some

those are slovenian

slovakia and slovenia aren’t the same

the website just freezes whenever i try to change the option

nice

[onyx escarp]

around 100€ max

[bitter oar]

uh probably out of reach because the keycaps $80

i mean, it’s either recommend him niche gaming keyboard or no slovak legends

they’ll offrer him razer, logitech, corsair at best

two cheeseburgers

[onyx escarp]

a friend said you can bind keys in the steelseries program to certain letters/characters so that fixes the problem i think

[onyx escarp]

wdym?

[bitter oar]

keybord

[muted karma]

there is literally no issue

just set your OS language to whatever

and your "issue" is gone

as long as your keyboard is ISO (correct enter shape and correct left shift length)

[onyx escarp]

Hmm

Looks like the enter is a bit different

[onyx escarp]

Look here

What does this change?

[muted karma]

?

[chrome raft]

@patent belfry did the dude say smth to u

Laser is blue

And told u to ban me?

Anyways is amazon foam good for keyboards

[limpid oyster]

I had a seizure looking at this fb marketplace add

[nocturne thunder]

that is horrific

[vocal breach]

best 200 usd keyboard?

[bitter oar]

rainy 75

it’s not $200 but $100 tho

[vocal breach]

what about something that is available?

[bitter oar]

only thing it lacks i believe is a knob and good, consistent gasket performance

[bitter oar]

uhhhh mmm

[bitter oar]

leobog barebone kit + some switches and keycaps

some gat milky yellows at $0.15 per switch or mondari’s, or basicly what’s your preference + some koa keycaps from ali for $20
and hi75

if you don’t like the aestetics of the knob on the hi75, you can buy replacement badge

there are few like clear transparent, black, etc

[vocal breach]

tyy

[spiral mica]

or the hi8 which is just hi75 but hetter

[bitter oar]

yeah, but the hi75 is fine

i’d suggest buying it from taobao as it is much cheaper to buy such stuff there

[vocal breach]

i cant find a link of the hi80 can u send it please?

[spiral mica]

the m1/m1w would also be a good choice

[bitter oar]

they’re okay but they just sound a bit boring to me

[spiral mica]

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[bitter oar]

especally with the bottom foam

[spiral mica]

its taobao tho

[vocal breach]

ty

[boreal rivet]

you should buy a realforce instead

[spiral mica]

average topre user

[outer lance]

which are the best linear switches for gaming rn?

[spiral mica]

whats the problem with taobao

I get almost all my switches on there

and some of my keyboards

I live in HK so its easier for me to buy from tb (and its way cheaper), also the hi8 is pretty good for its price

I prefer m1w tho

i am actually thinking about that but I have too many things I want to buy

[onyx escarp]

You said your issue is gone as long as your keyboard is ISO

And it isnt really normal

yeah and so will that cause any problems?

[bitter oar]

no

you can remap the keys

overrated type of membrane imo hehe

it’s your preference not what people want tbh

i used it so,

i mean tried for 30 seconds

i didn’t like it the second i actuated it

[onyx escarp]

wait mabye if i set it to german the enter will be better?

[bitter oar]

my explanation “it was like overlubed gateron black switch” wasn’t enough for you tbh.
i can’t really explain it in the mechanical switch term

something inbetween like mech-membrane and linear/tactile?

it’s unique is what i can say abt it

doesn’t mean i like it

the housing just collapses

when you press it

spring, the rubber? housing , the actual housing

well, well, then explain it yourself

mr topre lover

the feel

yes, that’s the rubber cup housing collapsing

and the feel?

explain the feel not how it works

lube your switches

it lacks “honey”

which i like personally

“doesn’t do much” fr?

it feels like your last time using linear switches we’re nk cream linears

they’re scratchy af without lube

even with thin layer lube they may not feel crisp and still a bit scratchy

if topre would be so good then, probably more clones would be around there

are they cheap and decent?

i’d suggest you fr trying the rainy 75 at $100

when it launches

it’s basicly a cutdown zoom75

[boreal rivet]

I think you need to understand that the reason why there are so many mx clones on the market is because its the least risky switch to clone, not because its better than everything else

[bitter oar]

i mean 75% lacks like 1-2-3 keys compared to tkl

and it’s quite smaller

1.5u or 2u smaller

i mean, it’s all preference

but you shouldn’t just “get topre” to everyone who wants a keyboard

not everyone likes it, and you can’t go wrong with regular linears

yes, not everyone likes linears so,

[boreal rivet]

but it's my preference to tell everyone who wants a keyboard to just "get topre"

[bitter oar]

it broken point

[bitter oar]

it’s basicly like saying to get nvidia gpu when all they do is game and want value

you give recommendations based on what they need/want not, what you like

[boreal rivet]

yet you do the same?

plus I do think that a topre board is a better option than some random china cheap shit board

in all cases

[bitter oar]

i don’t recommend people ws mondari who want light switches

[boreal rivet]

and i don't tell people to buy topre 55g either?

[bitter oar]

i recommend people ws mondari because they’re well lubed, and have well balance between thockiness and creaminess, are smooth and mid priced (aslong thier budget is around mid too)

[boreal rivet]

and I recommend people to buy topre because I think its a better option than a random chinese keyboard that no one has ever heard of

its all preference mayn

like

what is your problem

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1006977985120849993.webp?size=48&name=weirdgasit&quality=lossless

[bitter oar]

it’s currently one of the most talked about budget keyboards tbh

[boreal rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/a506-gif-20756721

[bitter oar]

huh, so ur telling me they should spend $300 on a keyboard when thier budget is $100???

yes, that makes sense

bro stop

ur spilling up shit r

not everyone wants to spend $300 on a keyboard

you literally enforce your opinion to what they really want/need

yes.

the $100 budget keyboard will last your longer

does topre even have hotswap sockets

if one the switches goes rip your can throw away your keyboard if you don’t have experience with solder

[boreal rivet]

topre doesn't need hotswap sockets

because topre doesn't fail

i've spilt water on mine like

5 times

and all i've had to do it wipe it dry

you can see examples of topre keyboards selling on used markets dating back 20 years that still work

the fact that people meme over aged topre domes is a testament to how reliable they are

[bitter oar]

you can say same with mechanical keyboards

[boreal rivet]

don't really need hotswap sockets then do they?

going by your logic of course

[bitter oar]

guys just stop enforcing your opinions to other people. if they have budget of $100 no topre here at all

[boreal rivet]

ever heard of buying used lmao

[bitter oar]

used keyboard? gross

what if they refuse to buy used

what now?

[boreal rivet]

their loss

[bitter oar]

so, not buy keyboard if no topre?

[boreal rivet]

i guess

[bitter oar]

you guys telling me the $3 office keyboard is better than the $100 keyboard?

[boreal rivet]

they can go on a long journey of fomo and regret

then realise the realforce was a pretty good option after all

[bitter oar]

yo guys just fanboys

without very valid points

sure sure

[boreal rivet]

brother says this as he judges keyboards by how they sound and "gasket evenness"

[bitter oar]

someone whi enforces thier opinion to thier budget, what they want and need literally the oposite what someone asks for

^ clearly never bought a keyboard with decent gasket performance

no foam right

[boreal rivet]

don't deflect!

what is your rebuttal to this

[bitter oar]

more foam will reduce the gasket perform tad bit so i’m asking

nothing significant

[boreal rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1006976695833727187.webp?size=48&name=pepew&quality=lossless

[bitter oar]

foam mods exist?

ofc

foam is subjective

but most people like them

[boreal rivet]

you're changing the subject again

[cunning anvil]

😔

i bad at soldering

[bitter oar]

the subject was subjective about gasket performance.

[boreal rivet]

no?

[native sundial]

Gateron Speed Silvers. That is all.

[boreal rivet]

the subject was your claim of thocctober not having owned a keyboard with good gasket performance

[bitter oar]

also, gasket performance is not just the visible part when you push the keys fr hard. it makes typing softer.

[boreal rivet]

so?

[bitter oar]

yes, depending on who you ask “what is good gasket performance”

[cunning anvil]

to keep the oil from leaking out

[boreal rivet]

this guy gets it

[boreal rivet]

you should redo this

[bitter oar]

so you can get free mario kart

[boreal rivet]

looks really bad lol

might have a short too

[bitter oar]

also, akko has some of the best performing gasket mounted kbs

[bitter oar]

not every single one tho))

and most of them

they’re 1/3 of the price of a gmk set lmao

average gmk clone opinion

[cunning anvil]

might LMAO

[bitter oar]

not the same thing

car has actual moving parts
keycaps are… plastic

[cunning anvil]

it's like 3 bridges at least

[boreal rivet]

idk the part with the solder is blurry

couldn't tell

[bitter oar]

not the same thing also

[cunning anvil]

yeah it's real bad in person

i think the pins were too thick

not enough heat to go around

i usually 300-350

[bitter oar]

can you fake Polybutylene terephthalate?

yes, i had to use google

[boreal rivet]

just say pbt weirdo

why would you even admit you had to google it

[bitter oar]

uhhh, tell me the difference between gmk clones and gmk reeaalz

expect for minor imperfection

[slender tide]

it’s not made by gmk

[bitter oar]

and

[slender tide]

That’s the difference

[bitter oar]

see

imagine paying for branding

you just buy to know you’ve bought it from gmk

[slender tide]

maybe warranty?

[bitter oar]

on pieces of plastic

[slender tide]

yessir

[bitter oar]

who cares when they cost a kidney for most people

not the point.

i can get xda keycaps from ali for $15

1/4th of the price

all they have are some imperfections at the bottom where nobody ever looks when the keyboard is built

one week- two weeks actually

no fuzzy legends on mine

i sold my set to my brother tbh

i can buy another tho

or somehow extract them from my bro

you can also watch some youtube videos, on the koa keycaps for example you can clearly see they’re not fuzzy

[boreal rivet]

realise that dye sub will inherently be fuzzier to doubleshot

[bitter oar]

what do you count as “fuzzy” keycap

literally anything that’s 10% worse than gmk is fuzzy?

[boreal rivet]

it is literally a limitation of the tech

[bitter oar]

everyone’s gonna look for the horrible fuzziness god it looks so bad i’m gonna throw away them and buy $80 gmk set

[boreal rivet]

everyone knows cherry dyesubs are a different level though

[boreal rivet]

I never said that?

[slender tide]

Do they sell keyboard in boats?

[bitter oar]

well, then that’s the diffence between $15 pbt keycap set from ali and $60-120 gmk set

the difference doesn’t really make up for the $45<

[slender tide]

I’m going on a cruise ship I might need one

[bitter oar]

if you have budget of $500. sure gmk is alr.
if your budget is $80 (max) then no

for the whole keyboard

so, $30 for rest of the keyboard?

aula f75, ajazz ak820 pro tbh

uhhh, you’re telling me to recommend someone a razer keyboard with cheapest abs keycaps possible?

[boreal rivet]

is this why you don't want to buy a realforce

since once you buy it you'll convince yourself its good and start recommending it

thus proving us right

[bitter oar]

you can’t recommend over-thier-budget keyboard to someone

that’s not how budget works

if they budget is A. you can’t recommend then anything above A.

or much above A.

yeah, how they beat them

i’d rather them spend money on hardware like gpu or cpu, ram than keyboard

wym

i mean, yes because i have high end system

or well, the gpu isn’t very high end nowadays but that’s not the point

most people want keyboard for gaming if they ask in this server

because it sucks

you proved my point*

provided lol

wdym

you’re just clowning yourself at this point in a row

you had some decent points but the ratio is awful now

i’m buying budget keyboards because i’m curious

it’s not dogshit thank you

tell me what’s wrong with the #rainy 75

where

what does suck about it

see, you don’t have idea

[boreal rivet]

ok

that is true

ngl

very strong point against it

[bitter oar]

uhhh, did you actually watch it

did you watch him saying “they don’t tell me what to say” parts

ofc not

and did you watch the video at all?

no.

did you watch other videos?

mmm

also no.

so, paid promotions = rigged sound tests?

you say promotion means rigged?

then whatever linus promotes he should be also hated for it

why gamer’s nexus isn’t hated for going promotions

then why are you in this server when you’re agains’t promotions

[boreal rivet]

linus is also magnitudes bigger than these random people

[bitter oar]

even worse

[boreal rivet]

I've been working on an assignment for the past 2 hours

[bitter oar]

try the rainy 75 then hate it, just like you said to me hating topre but i actually tried them

[boreal rivet]

should've been done in 1 if not for this high tier entertainment

[bitter oar]

30 seconds or not you haven’t tried the rainy 75 for a second nor, any $100 keyboard

isn’t that just barebone kit

switches? which switches

intresting,

tbh, but why do you say “get razer keyboard if your budget is below $100”

you’re saying it like if rainy 75 was worse than the razer keyboard

have you tried razer keyboard?

especally thier cheaper older versions

rattly stabs, scratchy switches, pingy, cheap plastic, light. niche

going from razer keyboard to rainy 75 would be much more noticable difference than going from rainy 75 to whatever is the best keyboard ever

there is called what comes as “value”

rainy 75 isn’t the best but for what it offrers you can’t beat it so easy

search for “topre is overrated” on youtube

[boreal rivet]

WHO IS THIS LOL

[bitter oar]

no idea

[boreal rivet]

not asking you

[late zinc]

Its not a valid review if they've been paid for it

[boreal rivet]

i know you have no idea

[bitter oar]

just based on the soundtest it’s decent, they can’t rig the soundtest

unless

[boreal rivet]

ultimately doesn't matter i guess

[boreal rivet]

you can

[late zinc]

They literally can though

[bitter oar]

yeah, tho but every single one of them?

it is

you can remove the foam tho

real

i can send you jerry

this is jerry

no

can you say anything good about this keyboard

okay, now is this better than the rainy 75?

average gaming keyboard vs rainy 75

which one is better

rattly stabs

mmm

try the rainy 75 first then say which one is better

i doubt the leopold is better

at what exactly is it better?

how

explain

sounds like bamboo

mid

yes

and someone may say it’s horrible

it’s somewhat pingy tbh

you call that “good”

huh you can clearly hear the board making hollow sound,
yeah pingy isn’t good terminology definition

it sounds hollow unlike the rainy 75

does it even have silicone pad

? bro plastic keyboards need either internal weight or silicone pad to not sound shit

have you ever used budget keyboard

or opened one to check

remove the silicone pad and it’ll sound +900% more hollow

8

have you actually tried to remove the pad out of curiosity?

on any plastic keyboard

w good for you

imagine blocking someone because you’re losing a point

oh, so you haven’t blocked me

i mean, you’re the one who recommends people ancient relics

or razer keyboards

instead of actually decent keyboards

i have 9 X doubts that the fc200r supports qmk via

average person doesn’t like relics

or cheap abs keycaps

and rattly stabs

that is true,
but this point is broken when they ask for “best budget keyboard under $X”

you don’t recommend random crap that goes under your mind

nor something that is too over thier budget

no

well, what does new mean

4 years ago

~3

good question actually

thanks, says someone who lacks common sense

i didn’t really care about them tbh

nor i do nor i will

i don’t like them, most people don’t care. i don’t have to care also

wym

admit what

you clearly lack common sense of the term “budget”

atleast

basic math

wasn’t you the one who said “they expect” who expects to get recommended an used keyboard

$110 is fine.
$200 not.

uhhh, do you realize they thank you for anything you recommend

you clearly lack common sense buddy

how is it shitty????

you haven’t answered me anything

tell me what’s shitty about it

no way

you stay away from recommending people stuff

you still haven’t answered my questions tbh

how

if you can’t say what about it sucks it can’t suck

[chrome raft]

i recommend you shut the fuck up

[bitter oar]

tf

answer..

you’ve the one said i’m changing subjectives?

lmao?

have you seen what is this whole convo about

changing subjectives.

you two cricitized me from changing the subjective but, now when you do it nahhh that’s all good

if you can’t answer what’s wrong anout the rainy 75 then your point of it being bad is invalidated

mass produced ≠ bad?

man.

what’s wrong about it tbh

so, ur telling me even if it would be spray coated… it’s worth $200 less because of that?

uhhh, how much worse quality

is it like noticable

or your keyboards aren’t worth $500

full cnc aluminium?

eww that’s 70%??

your clearly didn’t watch anything about the rainy 75

and say it sucks