peripherals

[prime mirage]

yes major

[inland sonnet]

depends if i get a hot swap i can get eny switch

[prime mirage]

is red a option?

[inland sonnet]

yeah

[prime mirage]

that would prob be the best if your okay with linear

imo tho

[inland sonnet]

i used red before but isnt brown the same but tactil?

[prime mirage]

no browns sound very diffrent and imo browns feel and sound terrible

get what you like tho

[inland sonnet]

oof

[kindred oracle]

Im tired of my loud keyboard and I've tried switching switches but I think I wanna go silent. Will that affect game play ?

[prime mirage]

yes but just how it feels

[kindred oracle]

Alright

I'm thinking about either Akko penguin or Akko fairy. But epomaker sea salt silents are also very nice

[mint grove]

Looking for some low tone thocky, but tactile switches, anyone got any ideas? Even if I need to lube, or mix mash different switched, or add something to the base plate, I can do that.

I really like the low tone wet thocky sound though.

I am doing it for a custom keyboard I am trying to make by hand.

thats why I said lube, and stuff I can add to the bosrd.

Custome Keyboard, not something I can just buy (Also has trackball intergrated on right side.)

I am trying to get all the components to make it, so I am trying to find some switches that I will be really happy with.

These are what I have listed so far, but I am not sure if there is a better choice that I will get better results with:

Durock T1 Tactile Switches and I need a total of 33 switches.

[mint grove]

I am going to get these and jusy wire them together

Single Switch PCBs

Along with hotswappable midifiers.

[cunning anvil]

how will you hold them in place?

[kindred oracle]

Would o rings on silent switch make the switch quieter or just mushy???

[kind crag]

Hey, I have a question. My younger brother wants to buy a 60% - 75% keyboard, preferably with rgb. Are there any good/decent keyboards he could get for around $50? The budget could stretch a little higher if it's worth it.

He's currently using a cheap $20 "Gaming Keyboard" off of Amazon. I don't know which mechanical switch he'd prefer, unfortunately.

[boreal rivet]

You should buy him a hhkb

[stiff stirrup]

anyone who knows anything about keyboards, what the hecc is a banana switch????

[carmine mesa]

best switches ever!!

[worthy pollen]

anyone got any switch recommendations

please @ me ^^^

[placid gorge]

any 75% keyboard under 70$ in india?

[boreal rivet]

Topre

[kind crag]

Uh... that seems to be out of his budget...

[sleek bronze]

Is that for a charibdys?

[tame ravine]

yeah bro thanks for the help

i just dk what the best for that price is

i see ppl saying the apex mini is better or the huntsman v3 but i got no clue

[boreal rivet]

They say apex mini is better because it’s cheaper

[tame ravine]

theyve announced the wooting tkl right

[boreal rivet]

In reality faster response time is negligible and rapid trigger is a feature to cope against skill issue

[tame ravine]

yeah true

do we know if the tkl is gonna be much better than the 60%

or is it the same thing just tkl

[boreal rivet]

The latter i assume

[tame ravine]

idk if its worth the wait to see

but

[kind crag]

I'd appreciate the help

[mint grove]

3D Printing.

[mint grove]

I don't understand.

[cunning anvil]

charybdis is a keyboard

3d

[mint grove]

Oh okay, well I am trying to make something similar to that.

[neon plume]

Should I get Gateron Optical Yellow switches or Iceberg Optical Yellow switches for the Epomaker Skyloong GK75?

[bitter oar]

Aula F75 from taobao (cheapest at $35) or aliexpress ($65), epomaker site $70

has a knob, doesn’t sound too hollow

or ajazz ak820 pro, knob + screen but, is lighter and sounds a bit more hollow.

$48

both options are good. but, if you want decent sound then the aula.

[bitter oar]

wuque mondari, if you live in europe it’s at discount €0.33 per switch at maxgaming which is pretty good for decently prelubed switches.

[plucky trail]

Found a decent deal for holy pandas and they're on sale rn
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtFZsqC

[worthy pollen]

are they hard to press down

?

[bitter oar]

def not gateron black ink v2 level, but yeah a bit on the heavier side.

[worthy pollen]

do yk any like creamy but kinda easy to press down

sorry im new too keyboards

[bitter oar]

what do you consider “easy to press down”

[worthy pollen]

my brother has the Womier S-K71 and his switches are like easy to press down

idk how to explain it

[bitter oar]

well, looks for switches with 40g> actuation force then

i’m not much into below 45g’s

40g> actuation, 50g~> bottom out

there are like hundred of options

so, i can’t say right a way

[worthy pollen]

yea i like more of the 45g ones

i have the kahli black switches rn and there kinda hard to push down

does anyone have the Womier S-K71 switch link ?

[bitter oar]

yeah, those are 60g actuation force i believe

mondari’s are 52g~

[worthy pollen]

is there a big difference from 45 to 52 ?

[bitter oar]

yes, but it doesn’t feel heavy

personally, it comes down to preference

for me, personally 45g is too light so, 52g may be bit too heavy for you

[drifting mauve]

I finally found a keyboard similar to what I want my endgame board to look like

[carmine mesa]

are black ink switches good?

i can't find them anywhere for some reason i think im too poor to look for them or something

[golden solstice]

How much better does it sound?

Redragon K552 with blue switches and tissue mod

This is my first mechanical keyboard

[drifting mauve]

other than the mod is it stock?

[golden solstice]

Yeah

[drifting mauve]

That is very impressive

sounds good even for clicky switches

[golden solstice]

I might get some browns in the future

[drifting mauve]

blues > browns imo

[golden solstice]

Blues feel kinda weird to me having that bump I feel like I'm missing presses

This is what it looks like btw

Basically standard except changing RGB and logo

[drifting mauve]

I'm using some boutique linear switches rn
..but I had a razer blackwidow with mx blues and I loved that thing

I will always be a clicky person in spirit

[mystic dune]

I checked out the Aula but couldn’t find the actuation force for TTC Crescent switches.. do uk what it is?

[golden solstice]

Blues feel really good when I'm typing fast but at slow speeds they just feel really bad

[drifting mauve]

felt

[golden solstice]

Also the clicks keep annoying my family lol

[drifting mauve]

yeah they loud asf

my gaming area was always in the garage growing up so it was never an issue for me lol

[golden solstice]

I really need to get my GPU drivers installed so I can actually see how they feel in game rn I've just been stuck to Minecraft

[drifting mauve]

I havent even tried out a game with my current keeb

ive had it for several days now

[golden solstice]

Damn that looks really nice

[drifting mauve]

ty

[golden solstice]

I literally just grabbed this keyboard because I forgot when I was building my PC that I didn't actually own a keyboard at all

I'd just been using my laptop hooked to my TV so it never crossed my mind

Ironically this was actually cheaper at CanCom than the membrane ones when I went

[drifting mauve]

I made a fanfic of my keyboard where it lives in the icarly universe and is a cross between an apple magic keyboard, a topre and cherry

I have it pretty well tuned but theres no dampening foam or silicone yet so it sounds a little hollow rn

I'm also using rk61 single shot keycaps rn as a placeholder for now until these arrive..

Another words it will sound way better when its completed lol

[cunning anvil]

for second i was wondering why it was so spaced out

[drifting mauve]

[boreal rivet]

Never speak of this again.

[drifting mauve]

I have a severe addiction to mid 2000s stuff

it is very difficult

Its like a severe psycological thing tho

beyond just nostalgia

like somtimes I just want to break down and cry randomly and I have like panic attacks and shit

[carmine mesa]

are the ktt kang whites good?

[neon plume]

Any ideas? Also are there any better keyboards at around the same price ( £60 )

[bitter oar]

get the leobog reaper verson, it is the cheapest.

[sonic cape]

foe their price they're ok

[chrome raft]

razer huntsman TE for 50?

is it a good catch?

[ancient compass]

used or new?

[chrome raft]

used but seems good condition

[ancient compass]

i dont know what im speaking about

but if its the one with rapid trigger then it sounds good value

see how much a drunkdeer a75 is new but either way you likely wont be complaining with the razer

[chrome raft]

its this one

[ancient compass]

i dont think it does have rt but i could be wrong

maybe wait for more replies i'd say

[chrome raft]

kk ty

[bitter oar]

nope

[drifting mauve]

gasp
No.

[bitter oar]

nuh, nuh ajazz ak820 pro is $50

brand new

[drifting mauve]

rk61 chepaer and better lol

[bitter oar]

sounds, better, better stabs, less hollow, better switches, everything

[bitter oar]

outdated recommendation

it’s not 2021/2022

[chrome raft]

what can i get guys?

[drifting mauve]

ducky one 2 mini the same msrp and better

[bitter oar]

custom keyboard market has gotten much, much cheaper on avg

[bitter oar]

even worse

[bitter oar]

ajazz ak820 pro, Aula f75 from taobao for $35 or aliexpress or epomkaer website

[drifting mauve]

Avoid razer SteelSeries, logitech and other gaming brands etc
(They are looked down apon here)

[chrome raft]

i've had ajazz ak33 for like 3yrs

[bitter oar]

keychron is also no longer good value

[drifting mauve]

You are a plebian, a gypsy if you own one of them

[bitter oar]

expect for maybe the V series

[chrome raft]

it sounded awful

so you go for chinese brands?

[bitter oar]

probably didn’t even have lubed stabs

also, 3 years is huge amount of time for custom keyboard market

i stopped catching up in 2023 because they released so many switches it’s impossible

[chrome raft]

so ajazz ak820 pro, Aula f75

any other suggestion?

[bitter oar]

well, if you are willing to build your own keyboard..

pretty sure there are more hiddens gems than those

but, they don’t necessary have any major flaws that would make them unusable

the worst flaw they have i’d say it’s truly screweless design

meaning plastic clips hold them, so taking apart the keyboard is literal hell

but, you don’t really have to open them anyway

they have decent foam, dampening and carb plate

and they don’t even support screw in stabilizers so, you really don’t have reason to open them anyway

they’re hotswappable so, no soldering needed

just be careful to not pop up hotswap socket

[chrome raft]

aint gonna lie idk what half of this stuff is

but eng layout is a downside for me

[bitter oar]

well, you can replace the keycaps

[chrome raft]

is there a way to reconfig them

[bitter oar]

wym “reconfig”

[cunning anvil]

remap

[bitter oar]

yes ofc

[cunning anvil]

im guessing

[bitter oar]

it has it’s own software, tho not via/qmk

it’s fine, definitely not the best but, it works

it doesn’t look either like some abdominations from bloody

[chrome raft]

i'm looking up the ajazz one

[bitter oar]

a4tech bloody)

[chrome raft]

seems decent to me, idk

[bitter oar]

do you care about satisfying sound?

creamy, marbly, thocky, poppy, etc

[chrome raft]

i'm pretty casual regarding that

my keyboards always sound doodoo that's all i can say

[bitter oar]

yeah, then the ak820 pro is good

[chrome raft]

i like the clicky sound

it kinda disappeared from my old ajazz

the sound was certified A.S.S after like a year

[bitter oar]

maybe they we’re gently lubed

and it gotten into the tactile mechanism over time

[chrome raft]

i could buy a used custom as well

[bitter oar]

barely cheaper, also why

[chrome raft]

i only look at price tags

cant tell if its a good option

[bitter oar]

yes, ak820 pro is good, if you don’t care about the sound much it is perfectly fine. i’d suggest lubing those stabs tho

they’re not very rattly by default definitely 100 times better than average corsair keyboard stab. But, they do rattle a bit bit

you may not even realize it so, just buy the ak820 pro

only thing i didn’t like about it that the spacebar sounds slighly too hollow (for me)

[slender tide]

I’m currently considering the k530 draconic pro but I’m currently not sure if it’s worth it because it’s plastic. I’m looking for a gaming keyboard that isn’t full size and low ms I plan on swapping the switches with some gateron yellows but is the keyboard being aluminium really important? If anyone would have some suggestions please let me know

[chrome raft]

https://www.amazon.es/AJAZZ-Hot-Swappable-Keyboard-Cable-Espiral-LIGHTSYNC-Teclas-Cubierta/dp/B0BLVLWMTS/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_es_ES=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=2C6JR9VAU5BH3&keywords=ajazz+ak820+pro&qid=1704143538&sprefix=ajazz+ak820+pr%2Caps%2C151&sr=8-1

@bitter oar thoughts?

https://www.amazon.es/AJAZZ-Inalámbrico-Interruptor-Hot-Swappable-Non-Backlit/dp/B0CG8HK93Q/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=AJAZZ&qid=1704143606&sr=8-5

[bleak trellis]

What i don’t get

Is why people who go custom rarely go ergo

[cunning anvil]

familiarity, maybe?

[bitter oar]

i have doubts

oposite actually

[bleak trellis]

Well yeah thats why but like hobby wise they soend so much time on it & dont invest in whats arguably the most important aspect of the interface

Yk the health of it

Lol unhealthy hobby

[bleak trellis]

Well yeah people who can afford to make the switch probably see it as a means to an end more ig but if youre already going custom, try ergo

Different markets ik but ergo boards have a big history

[bitter oar]

i don’t like ergo keyboards tbh, just like ergo mices

[bleak trellis]

& are more common mainstream culture than you think

[bleak trellis]

I might switch away from mice tbh

[bitter oar]

it’s preference

[bleak trellis]

I understand

Design is like pretty deep

Have you tried tho ?

[bitter oar]

nothing is superior than A.
but no one likes rattly stabilizers

[bleak trellis]

It doesnt have to be expensive

[bitter oar]

if you like rattly stabilizers ._. man idk

get some help

[bleak trellis]

You dont need stabs for them yk

[bitter oar]

price ain’t issue, tho rn i don’t have much money i could certainly afford. it

i just don’t like them

i tried them, i tried to get used to them. no.

[bleak trellis]

Hm what did you try out of curiosity

[bitter oar]

i don’t really remember it was long ago, but it certainly wasn’t some crap

[cunning anvil]

moonlander

[bitter oar]

yes, but that was generally

who tf likes rattly stabilizers

[bleak trellis]

High end, tented split ortho

Etc

[cunning anvil]

oh i was just naming boards

[bleak trellis]

Idk

[bleak trellis]

Oh

Lol

I thought thats what @bitter oar tried

Check out zack freedmans keyboard video if you want a project & if you want use it trust me it will grow on you

Theres more to it than regular keyboard enthusiasts because well theres more to the design & you refine it not only to your acoustic & visual preferences but to your actual body

Try it out trust me if you dont like it at least you learnt

[bitter oar]

i’ll take a note but, i’ll probably not try it

[limpid oyster]

Not wanting to just slam everyone with a wall of txt, are yall cool with "reviews" being posted here. More of a long ass story of the failure of me ordering a board, but a reveiw none the less.

[bitter oar]

ask a mod i’m not sure tbh but, probably no

you can make a comment tho, not a wall of text i’m sure atleast

[slender tide]

Are custom keyboards still good if u specifically want to game on it? Would want one but the latency isn’t the best

[bitter oar]

my aula f75 should arrive in about a week, hopefully it’s decent because i recommend the keyboard. but, based off the current reviews it’s good

[bitter oar]

who said the latency isn’t “the best”

[slender tide]

Google

[bitter oar]

i mean… yes… you can get better latency with optical switches

but will, you… even perceive difference between 2ms and 5ms?

[slender tide]

yeah but u don’t need optical switches to get 1ms latency

[bitter oar]

it’s not as gimmicky as 1khz vs 8khz mice but it still pretty much is

[slender tide]

if ur playing in highly competitive games or tournaments then yea

I’m currently looking at a k530 pro draconic but it’s plastic and horrible switches but I will be changing those for gateron milky ones but plastic isn’t the best

haven’t really found a solution for it

[bitter oar]

lower actuation point switches will do more significant difference compared to that

[slender tide]

Yeah true

[bitter oar]

tournaments bois barely know what a custom keyboard is

they just use whatever is sponsored or… what they prefer based off thier liking they’ve tried

i may be wrong but it just seems like that

[slender tide]

good advertisement is peak

[mint grove]

Any thought are ideas on the layout I have for a custom keyboard I am trying to make?

[bitter oar]

and as you may know, your average razer keyboard doesn’t include hotswap sockets.

the first one the V4 has tho

[slender tide]

in no way am I looking for razer

Only the huntsman is hot-swappable

And some other series

but u only get to swap them with razers own switches that are crazy expensive

[bitter oar]

well, your only way to get lower actuation point switches to your board is desoldering. and i highly doubt your average tournament boi would actually even think about it

[slender tide]

okay I get it but do you have some suggestions?

[bitter oar]

not just the V4?

[slender tide]

It’s the huntsman series and some other series

[bitter oar]

i doubt

[slender tide]

Oh

The v4 is

my bad

[bitter oar]

no logitech nor corsair keyboard has hotswap sockets

[bitter oar]

and the V4 pro doesn’t

it is just the V4

[bitter oar]

pretty sure asus does

[slender tide]

that is so stupid

I was also looking at the k2 v2 I believe

[bitter oar]

the V4 i believe has even gasket mount and the pro doesn’t

and the V4 pro sounds worse aswell

[slender tide]

I love razer Logic

[bitter oar]

the V4 was released before V4 pro

so, it seems it’s just the V4 is entirely different board from V4 pro and should’ve been called V5

but, yeah the logic is poor

but it seems someone at razer is actually trying now

they still suck tho

gasket mount and hotswap sockets at like $170 is nothing new

[limpid oyster]

@slender tide
When it comes to keyboards, latency and polling rate basically come down to diminishing returns.
Most boards are a 1 Khz polling rate if wired or wireless with much lower like 100hz-200hz for bluetooth. For the most part its not going to hammer if you get a board off the shelf vs a custom. Unless its a Hall Effect board like the Wooting 60HE where you can set the actuation point of your switch. 1.2mm vs 0.1 mm when your gaming is on average nothing your going to immediately feel, but overall is 5-10 ms. If your not at like top 5-10 in the world in whatever your playing. Your not going to notice it at all when it comes to latency.

[slender tide]

thanks mate would you have some suggestions maybe? under the 100. Maybe I’m just horrible at searching for some but I haven’t seen many options

[limpid oyster]

Are you looking for full custom? or something that you can customize?

And is that total cost? or just the board cost? Do you have switches / caps to use if you get a barebones board?

[slender tide]

I’m mostly looking for a aluminium frame mx socket and rgb I would prefer 2.4ghz connection but any works I do plan on getting gateron milky switches or something similar to them

[slender tide]

barebones is not something I really want to do, price is high here and shipping won’t be pretty but I wouldn’t mind aside from that i was looking at the gmnk barebones but never picked out key caps

[limpid oyster]

A great intro board is the Monsgeek M1W. Aluminim, 2.4Ghz wireless, bluetooth 75% layout. Its technically a little over at $110 for the barebones version and the prebuilt is $140. I have a M3 and it was a great board for the price. All your normal custom stuff. Foams, choice of layout, included stabs which are decent, with per key RGB, a cable and basic keycaps.

All those features at under $100 is really hard to do

[slender tide]

oh it’s that keyboard

[slender tide]

yea maybe I do want too much but what do u think about the gmnk barebones ?

I could do what I wanted for around 110

[limpid oyster]

The GMMK pro is horrible imo.

The GMMK and GMMK 2 are Ok

[slender tide]

I’m a bit confused tho

there’s a few listed as gmnk “race”

is it an entire separate thing or is it just called that

[limpid oyster]

gmNk? or GMMK

[slender tide]

glorious

[limpid oyster]

Yeah so Glorious has 3 product lines. The GMMK, GMMK 2, and GMMK Pro.

[slender tide]

wait my bad

[limpid oyster]

GMMK was first, has a 60% and a 80%TKL

[slender tide]

that’s just the switch plate

73 for the TKL

[limpid oyster]

Oh the Brass Switch plate thats like $49

[slender tide]

and the 2 is 90

[ancient compass]

not nessecilary, steelseries can be good if you want rapid trigger and change thed actuation of switches

if you go used and didnt razer have one keyboard the youtubers liked

either way many other options exist like drunkdeer a75, wooting which i can presume are better than steelseries

[limpid oyster]

Overal GMMK is kindof overpriced. Most people might see them in like Best Buy and think they are good, but for the most part they are a little overpriced i think. Epomaker has some really good boards, even plastic ones, that will beat the socks off a Glorious board every day. The trick is, Glorious doesnt use full aluminum in their non pro boards. The top is Aluminum, but the bottom is all plastic.

[ancient compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fp_oiDrh6E

[unkempt dome]

gmmk base line sounds hollow imo

some reverb in there

[limpid oyster]

@slender tide Overall if you want all those features. Monsgeek M3W has everything your looking for for $139.

[unkempt dome]

so if sound is important for you, you might want to fill it up a bit

[slender tide]

except it has the ineffective key caps imo

or I can just opt for something really cheap like the k530

but it’s all plastic which is why I don’t want to

[ancient compass]

what gmmk does right is being avaliable in big box's stores which most competitors cant do

but that seems to be the only thing it does right

[limpid oyster]

Ineffective? Caps and switche are 10000% subjective though so look more for the features of the base board and work your way up.

[slender tide]

Is this the v4?

[ancient compass]

yep

[slender tide]

yeah but u can’t see half the keys vertically

Why would u want that

[bitter oar]

wooting is no longer only making the hall effect switches

akko joinned too

[limpid oyster]

You see them just fine lol

[slender tide]

I’m blind asf

[ancient compass]

idk which ones my drfunkdeer uses

[limpid oyster]

Get the regular M3W and throw in your own caps. Might be a little more but eeh

Price > Form Factor > Features > Aesthetics > Sound

[slender tide]

maybe I should just get a half whack keyboard and get a better one later on when I realise what I really need

[limpid oyster]

Your going to hit a wall somewhere in that line

[bitter oar]

@slender tide if you don’t necessarily want aluminium keyboard aula f75.

it can be gotten from taobao for $35 + shipping

[slender tide]

complete or barebones?

[bitter oar]

or aliexpress/epomaker site for $69.99 which is msrp

[bitter oar]

complete, has a knob is wireless 4000mah

[slender tide]

k530 draconic pro

is most likely better than that

[bitter oar]

no, it’s not

not, even close

[slender tide]

yeah stock defo not

[limpid oyster]

Epomaker will run circles around RedDragon any day

[bitter oar]

aula f75 has like 4 more layers of dampening

don’t judge product by it’s price

it’s $35 in the mainland of china

[slender tide]

that’s a horrible tip

[limpid oyster]

Epomaker TH80, EK68 are both great boards

[bitter oar]

you seem’d to be judging by the price clearly

[slender tide]

u should judge products by price most of the time

[limpid oyster]

I use a EK68 when i travel

No you really shouldn't

[slender tide]

well yeah

[bitter oar]

TH80 X or SE not the pro or regular is just okay

[slender tide]

but does aluminium matter all that much?

[limpid oyster]

No

not at all

[bitter oar]

for sound

[limpid oyster]

its just sound and visuals

performance is literally the exact same

[slender tide]

in what way does it change the sound

[slender tide]

Endurance too no?

[bitter oar]

aula f75 has relative creamy sound profile, has decent stabilizer lubing job

the stabs aren’t mushy nor rattly (they are tiny tiny bit but whatever)

[slender tide]

Where is it for 35

[bitter oar]

they didn’t overlube the stabs or use crappy ones

[bitter oar]

taobao

in aliexpress like $60-70

[slender tide]

it’s 38 euros

And like 20-30 for shipping

[limpid oyster]

Ok so lets clear some things up.
Aluminum boards do NOT last longer than plastic boards. Your not typing on the metal, your typing on a plate mounted PCB. That PCB is the exact same in both boards. The premium feel you get from an aluminum board is simply to dampen the sound of the key reverberation by increasing the weight of the material thats supporting the plate/pcb.

The outer shell might last longer, bt if you abuse a PCB, it doesn't matter what shell its in, its going to break.

[slender tide]

I’m looking for a creamy sound personally

[limpid oyster]

Then your way out of your price class

[slender tide]

I for sure am

[bitter oar]

plastic keyboards then

[bitter oar]

no

[limpid oyster]

Most sub $100 aluminum boards are going to be more pingy than thocky/creamy. I would go plastic

[bitter oar]

infi 75 sounds creamy/marbly for $105

you buy aluminium keyboards for thock/marbly

plastic for uhh creaminess

[limpid oyster]

The infi 75 is a good board.

Epomaker in general does make good boards.

[bitter oar]

the steel mid piece helps quite bit

[limpid oyster]

Oh well there you go. increase the weight. I might add it to my list of things to try out

[bitter oar]

TH80 was kinda of a miss tbh

[limpid oyster]

I use a Ek68 when i travel. love it

But my main board is like$400+ lol after everything was done with

[slender tide]

Then is the k530 a good option?

[bitter oar]

finally someone who understand keyboards more than “what the hell is this guy talking in magyar”

[bitter oar]

no

[slender tide]

that’s a great yes

💯

[bitter oar]

ajazz ak820 pro

[limpid oyster]

I wouldn't order a RedDragon keyboard for anyone i cared about, much less reccomend it to anyone.

[slender tide]

why

[bitter oar]

niche switches

[limpid oyster]

Poor plastic quality, thin keycaps, not a drop of lube, switches are questionable

[bitter oar]

niche stabilizer job

[slender tide]

I’m changing them tho

[bitter oar]

uhhh, the aula f75 comes with decent switches

same with ajazz ak820 pro and thier gift switches

[limpid oyster]

If you start low, your going to need to do more to make it better. Start mid and you have to change less

Spend less in the long run

[bitter oar]

actually, you don’t have to change anything about the aula f75
and the ak820 pro needs lube on the stabs

[slender tide]

man it’s an upgrade either way I’m currently playing on a keyboard from the 2010s

it’s horrible

[bitter oar]

man, just buy aula f75 and have it done

[slender tide]

how much is international shipping

[limpid oyster]

Recent build

[bitter oar]

goat keycap colour

[unkempt dome]

that mousemat ... love

really nice board

[slender tide]

What speakers do u have?

[bitter oar]

do research… probably $20~

if you can’t buy from taobao then aliexpress

or epomaker site

$70 is still pretty fine

next step would be infi 75

[slender tide]

The ak820 does look nice

[bitter oar]

it is alot more marbly, has screw design meaning you can actually open the keyboard without breaking your fingers trying to open clip design, supports screw in stabs, has internal metal weight, slighly better switches, etc..

[limpid oyster]

Logitech G560, they were a gift i havn't bothered to replace

I'll get a shot of all my boards rq. gota take down the display

[bitter oar]

the aula f75 is just a board you buy. you do not modify the internals

it doesn’t even have holes for screw in stabs

no reason to open it basicly

apart from maybe a tape mod?

[bitter oar]

has a display too, you can upload your own gifs

but, does sound bit hollow

especally the spacebar

[bitter oar]

is that the lego ripoff keyboard?

[slender tide]

@bitter oar thanks for both of the suggestions I’ll look more into them for tomorrow

[limpid oyster]

Hell yeah, it has no right sounding as good as it does. Threw a little polyfill in the back and its probably the deepest board i have

[bitter oar]

haha everyone says that it sounds too good than it should

[bitter oar]

i wonder, is the material just regular abs or a mix

[limpid oyster]

GMMK Pro (First Board) (GMK Pharoh knockoffs)
Monsgeek M3 (Evangelion ETSY Caps)
Epomaker EK68 (GMK Dolch knockoff)
Meletrix Zoom TKL (Zero Two build)
KBD Lilith (Evangelion ETSY Caps)
Gamakay K61 (Cloud RGB unicorn vomit build for my kid)
Epomaker Zoom65v1 (Polycaps Octopus)

[bitter oar]

gmmk pro ewwww

please no… goat stabs..

[limpid oyster]

Yeah yeah i know, i dont think i have used it in over a year, i just like the pharoh caps on the brass plate

No all my boards have Durock V2 golds if they are replaceable

[bitter oar]

they caused so many issues for the gmmk pro and now they sell “fixes” as if it would be nice of them

[limpid oyster]

Durock Black Cherry switches in most of them, ended up really liking them

Oil kings in a couple

[bitter oar]

why durock v2’s tx stab rev 3’s r best

or staebies

you don’t have to mod then, just little lube

no holee mod, bandaid mod or such

[limpid oyster]

I was building boards for people down here for a little side hustle and had like 20 sets at some point. I havn't had to buy stabs in over a year

Got a discount for buying in bulk

[bitter oar]

fair

[cunning anvil]

do you need stabs for 1.75u

[bitter oar]

next stabs better be tx tho

i was kinda dissapointed by the rev 4’s tho

yes, they had tighter tolerances but, that’s what made the rev 3’s nice and special, frictionless

[limpid oyster]

If cannon hadn't shipped my other stuff i could have thrown in more

[bitter oar]

no

[cunning anvil]

cool

[limpid oyster]

Technically i have two sets of Wuque stabs around here somewhere, i never used them though

I end up clipping the durocks and most of the newer boards i use have the TU film so you dont need to bandaid

[bitter oar]

no hassle with rev 3’s

i didn’t even lube some at point

and didn’t rattle nor tick lmao

[limpid oyster]

I'll see if Cannon can update my order with a set of them. I have backplates on the way from them as well as GB coming in April

[bitter oar]

are you using long pole switches btw?

[cunning anvil]

look at all them diodes lol

[limpid oyster]

yeah Durock Black Lotus are long stem

https://divinikey.com/products/durock-black-lotus-linear-switches

[bitter oar]

there could be some ticking then

with the standart version and not long pole one

nothing extreme

but there is some

lubing does reduce it a quite

entirely

[limpid oyster]

I can always throw an oil king on those. My current board doesn't have RGB so switch doesn't matter AS much

https://divinikey.com/products/gateron-oil-king-linear-switches

[bitter oar]

sure

[cunning anvil]

i should try oil kings, but im honestly too afraid to try anything not labelled as silent at this point

linears are nice

[bitter oar]

they are very deep sounding units

[cunning anvil]

is it mainly the sound to go for them or like, feel

[bitter oar]

ink black v2s are maybe ever so slighly more

[limpid oyster]

You can get ink black v2 silents that are very simillar feeling and quiet af

Thats actually what my wife uses in her build

Little too mushy for me but all silient switches feel strange to me

[bitter oar]

even the non silents are bit mushy

bit

[cunning anvil]

currently using outemu lime, because i wanted to try something "light. silent, tactile", and really like it so far, any recommendations for a linear i might prefer?

[bitter oar]

mm

[limpid oyster]

Silent liner? Honestly i want to try the Akko V3 Fairy silent linears. I have herd good things about them

[bitter oar]

i haven’t looked much into silent switches

i know what almost always works

overlubing hehe

tho, not over overlubing that’d be sad

[cunning anvil]

and here i was gonna ask if i could just chuck it in a tub

[limpid oyster]

I have a problem with ordering tooo much lube. Buy new board, oh i'll get more lube. I think i have like 5 unopened jars of lube

[neon plume]

Anyone keybord?

[bitter oar]

lacks context

[neon plume]

Okay

Iceberg Optical Yellow switches or gateron optical yellow switches for the Skyloong gk75

[bitter oar]

gat optical yellows are fine, not sure about iceberg’s tho

[limpid oyster]

gats imo

[bitter oar]

same

[bitter oar]

btw, do you really want optical switches

[neon plume]

I’m not bothered, I don’t know much

[bitter oar]

there are alot of boards that are mechanical + 6ms> and don’t cost a kidney

[bitter oar]

what’s your budget?

[limpid oyster]

@slender tide
https://www.yunzii.com/products/yunzii-yz75-pro-wireless-mechanical-keyboard
Creamy, wireless, pick a color, pick a switch for under $100

[neon plume]

Okay, do you know what’d be good for about £60?

[bitter oar]

ajazz ak820 pro/ aula f75

both have volume knobs (if you like)

[neon plume]

Ok

[bitter oar]

ak820 pro has a screen but doesn’t sound as crisp as f75

[limpid oyster]

We need to get a pin of recommendations going by price point. Do the labs team's job for them.

[neon plume]

This? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006103283165.html?

[limpid oyster]

Yup that one

[neon plume]

Ok

Which switch is the linear one

[bitter oar]

ajazz ak820 pro - $50 has a knob+screen, decent stabilizers and good switches.
aula f75 - $35 (taobao) to $70 (aliexpress,epomaker), has a knob, bit more deeper and bit more creamier, slighly better stablizer job, spacebar sounds less hollow when pressed, etc.

[bitter oar]

ajazz gift switch

fish one is tactile ib

[neon plume]

What about the f75?

[bitter oar]

taobao/aliexpress/epomaker site

[limpid oyster]

If you really want magnetic, the DrunkDeer A75 is like $115 for a 75%.
Doesn't sound great, some rattle, but its one of the lower barriers to entry for a full build.

[drifting flame]

Alot of keyboards

[limpid oyster]

Monsgeek at 160, Wooting at 160/170, Akko at i think 200,

[bitter oar]

sounds about mid, the spacebar could see some improvement

[limpid oyster]

some = a lot

[bitter oar]

for a $110 board

/120

[neon plume]

Are the wired and 3 mode versions of the F75 the same except for the wire part

[limpid oyster]

true, its giving you a lot for how little your paying

[bitter oar]

supports bluetooth, 2.4ghz and wired

[neon plume]

Ok

[bitter oar]

same with the ak820 pro

both have good latency.

i’d not use bluetooth tho

if you can use 2.4ghz

or wired the most preferably

[drifting flame]

My only keyboard

[limpid oyster]

You know what doens't have good latency. The bluetooth on my brand new Meletrix board. stupid pos cant keep connection for shit

[bitter oar]

the oven knob

[neon plume]

Okay, I think I’ll get the wired F75 with the reaper switches

Thanks

[bitter oar]

np

[cunning anvil]

the knob is actually kinda cool

[limpid oyster]

Now that you have accepted your reccomendation. Go sub to this random kid's youtube channel. He just came up on my recommended and has like 17 subs. 2 videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEMhWiXynFQ&ab_channel=CayboTech

Is he right? eeh thats debatable, but make him feel good

[drifting mauve]

I finally found the perfect keycap set and its discontinued 😭

[limpid oyster]

@drifting mauve
https://www.ipopularshop.com/products/kbdfans-clear-2048-cherry-keycaps-set In stock to ship

$650 but techincally in stock

You can try https://3dkeyst.com/products/clear2048-keycaps-set But they might not have international shipping

Rip only Spain

[chrome raft]

i just ordered the ak820 like somebody suggested, i forgot who it was but ty :))

[limpid oyster]

@bitter oar probably

[drifting mauve]

I cant afford that bruh

[limpid oyster]

I don’t think anyone should for a keycap set. But I feel you. I have knockoff caps and I tried to find a legit set and couldn’t find one under like $500

[golden solstice]

Anyway I can make blue switches quieter? I plan on getting browns but dont have the money for it right now.

[limpid oyster]

@golden solstice Where about are you located?

[golden solstice]

Canada

aka Linus Land

[boreal rivet]

are you stupid

these are very obviously scams

[boreal rivet]

#427630953100476436 message

[limpid oyster]

No shit its a scam, i was just pointing out they are TECHNICALLY in stock somewhere.

[boreal rivet]

what kind of idiot would post a scam because it's "TECHNICALLY instock"

they most likely don't even have the item in question LOL

something tells me you actually thought these were legit

[limpid oyster]

r/woosh

[pastel zephyr]

is the lego keyboard from kbdcraft worth it?

[drifting mauve]

What y'all think if this lil idea?

I still have yet to do the silicone mod

I'm also getting pbt keycaps soon

[slim wave]

guys

help me customize my keyboard

i have black and white keycaps

and a little bit of gray keycaps (modifiers only)

[limpid oyster]

If you have disposable income, and want to have a lego keybaord, yeah its worth it. It was fun to build, but its nothing that i can see anyone using for real for a long long time. The switches need lube, the stabs are pretty meh to bad, but its more about the fun of being able to build and customize the case if you want. I got mine to build with my kid as a fun little christmas day thing to do with him.

[limpid oyster]

Essentially giving it a gasget mount, nifty little idea

[limpid oyster]

What you want do?

[slim wave]

make my keyboard look good

[limpid oyster]

What board do you have?

[slim wave]

redragon K617

[limpid oyster]

Espeically on smaller boards, aestheticly there's not much to do but find a classier cap set. Maybe see if you can throw some polyfill in the bottom case to dampen the probably hollow sound.
You can find some nice Dolch caps like these from DIYKeycap.
https://diykeycap.com/products/129-keys-pbt-dye-sub-keycap

[bitter oar]

lube them especally the tactile mechanism

[slim wave]

damn

[bitter oar]

youll reduce the clickiness by like 90%

[slim wave]

they got free shipping at my place

but its for 7-15 days

ngl i wish i knew about this site before

[limpid oyster]

I use a few of their sets on my boards. Including Modern Dolch on my work board im literally using

[bitter oar]

whats the thickness?

1.65?

or just 1.5

or better

[limpid oyster]

sec, i just put new batteries in my calipers, i'll get the exact measurement

1.5 basically, between 1.48 and 1.51

[slim wave]

damn

bro had to pull out the calipers

[bitter oar]

sad, but the price kinda corresponds. atleast its not thinner

[limpid oyster]

Yeah, the only thicc bois i have are a set of Akko caps at like 1.7 but they are discontinued

Havn't sprung for any GMK caps yet

[bitter oar]

also had a set of akko pandas, around 1.65

thickness

very cheap too

like 20 bucks ive gotten them for

and the asa profile was goat

[limpid oyster]

Akko Midnight are mine

not my board, but same caps

[slim wave]

lit

[limpid oyster]

I actually have that board that i'm trying to get rid of though. I need to throw it up on fb marketplace

[boreal rivet]

realforce is better

[limpid oyster]

@boreal rivet Do you ever have anything positive to say?

[boreal rivet]

yes

realforce is better

[sonic cape]

are you seriously modding a tester 68 ?

[main narwhal]

mod all the things

[slender tide]

do u like using it?

[drifting mauve]

womier wk61*
my brother gave it to me for Charismas for some reason so I'm modding the heck out of it

[drifting mauve]

I wish it was a tester68 lol

[bitter oar]

just buy a better prebuild and don’t waste money on the wk61

generally, if you want to replace just the pcb alone the pricey are kinda ridicilous

pretty sure there are budget keyboards with transparent shell which you can spray paint to a cyan colour

[drifting mauve]

well I already have it so theres nothing we can do about that

[bitter oar]

well, it will no longer be transparent to the insides but, it’ll be cyan or whatever

[bitter oar]

how much did you pay

[drifting mauve]

I diddnt..
my brother got it for me for chsitmas
I told him I wanted it becoase the aesthetic and he found one
I don't know how much he paid

Why do you care so much?

[bitter oar]

tought you managed to purchase a pcb

[drifting mauve]

no no no

[bitter oar]

or did i mess you with someone else

pretty sure there was someone with wk61 wanting to replace the pcb for a black one

[drifting mauve]

I aint spending a single penny on this thing until I get it tuned in and sounding how I want first

[drifting mauve]

That was me

its not becoase the color tho
It would be nice if some day I could replace it with a pcb that has the same controls as the rk61

[bitter oar]

make your own silicone pad mixture hehe

[drifting mauve]

Thats the plan

my dad said he has pour in silicone I can use

[bitter oar]

don’t pour in too much because it is pain to remove ;

impossible/

[drifting mauve]

What is I infuse pennies or quarters in it for weight?

[bitter oar]

uhhh, not much i’d suggest inserting a plate

but i doubt you have a way to cut aluminium blocks/plates

[drifting mauve]

I just remembered I got a bunch of scrap aluminum from my friend
I could just fab a weight for it

[drifting mauve]

lmao I do

[bitter oar]

nice

pour in some silicone and plate a metal piece plate on top, wait, does the wk61 come with underneath pcb foam?

no..

i’d suggest some

or… a tape mod

duh i almost forgot about tape mod

i still don’t kinda get why you’re upgrading such cheap board

the mods seem kinda wasteful for such board

but, if you’re really determined to it i won’t stop you

get some better stabs tbh, the stock ones suck.

you can mod them tho. i’m not sure if the effort is worth it

[limpid oyster]

@bitter oar We in for an interesting time tonight. The Glarses new Cherry MX Purples just arrived from Germany.

[bitter oar]

i don’t expect much from them tbh

just nylon housing nothing special

tho, probably the best cherry switch ever

altough it’s not kinda…

[bitter oar]

are they stock lubed or nah

[limpid oyster]

Yeah

I got them for a friend that loves typing on a literal typewriter so they should sound the same

As I vomit

[bitter oar]

atleast it’s not blue clicky

[limpid oyster]

Its like nails on a chalkboard compared to my usual Durock Black Cherry switches

dont come prelubed and are scratchy af\

stems are slightly thicker than i would expect, hard to get my polycaps octopus off without ripping the switch out the board

Yeah overall they aren't great. I think the Glorious Panda's feel so much better. Without the time to go and lube them tthey are almost unusable if you want them to sound even remotely decent. The factory lube is just on the spring bottom and was so little it basically wasn't there.

Compared to the drop panda's, glorious panda's, and even like an akko lavender. They are probably the worst tactile switch i think i have atm. Lubing one of them didn't make it much better. Glad to be giving them away.

[drifting mauve]

The purple version comes with foam, a white pcb and a plate dampener, the blue one doesnt have any of those for some reason dispite being the same price

I'm almost considering buying the purple one just to swap all that into it and then sell the leftover keeb

Only caveat is I would still have wk61 controls, and still no qmk support

[limpid oyster]

I almost bricked a board yesterday flashing qmk. I have a macropad and almost flashed my board firmware on my macropad

[boreal rivet]

They are just recolored mx2a clears

They also break keycaps so

[hoary flare]

Just put phantom keycaps on my huntsman mini

[kindred oracle]

is the hk gaming gk61 acually fully hotswap?

[limpid oyster]

I think i have a sample sitting around but they are dead similar if i do say so. my Polycaps Octopus were really hard to get off them

[sterile gust]

hey im working on my bakaneko 65 and i need a Unified Daughterboard is there a place that has them in stock

[muted karma]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/unified-c4-daughterboard?_pos=1&_sid=7d748a34f&_ss=r

just be careful with the ezmate connector

[twin drift]

how are i gear keybee typewriter keyboards?

[limpid oyster]

I wouldnt use it to prop open a door. If your paying more than Free.99 its too much.

[twin drift]

its free

i got it as a gift

so should i use it or a wired microsoft office keyboard

[limpid oyster]

I would use the Microsoft one tbh.

[twin drift]

like whats the problem

?

should i sell that then?

[limpid oyster]

Its probably hollow plastic, membrane rubber dome, round keycaps are not very comfortable to type on for long periods of time. and horribly overpriced for what you can actually get for a similar price. Its a shovelware keyboard that you would probably see included for free on a big box retailer's prebuilt PC.

[twin drift]

bro the build quality is insanse, it weighs about 750g and wireless

also i got for free so no issue of price

[twin drift]

its better than the keyboard i have, downsides are noisy keys (because of typewriter inspired) and rounded keys

[limpid oyster]

That thing?

Thats cheep plastic. Thats not "insane" in any way.

[twin drift]

yea

[twin drift]

bro? i swear, its build quality is good

[limpid oyster]

If its better than what you have, use it. But if your comparing it to another like $40 board, its overpriced, for less features than something like an ajazz board.

[twin drift]

what features does it have?

[twin drift]

u live in india?

[twin drift]

possibly i could sell this and get the one you are talking about

[limpid oyster]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806204869156.html
It regularly can be found on aliexpress for like $40.
Wireless, hotswap, gasget mount, rgb, knob. better keycaps.

[twin drift]

jeez, it looks cool

[limpid oyster]

It will take a little to arrive but thats going to be a WAY better board.

[drifting mauve]

I think that's the same keebs they use at my orthodontists office

[bitter oar]

and has a screen

b

[inland sonnet]

im just going to say that i am in love with the mkey darkness very acessible for what i offers wow

[wraith epoch]

I’m looking to buying new switches, I mainly play fps games so what type of switch should I go for

[timid pivot]

Literally any switch produced in the last 4 to 7 years

Gigabit Ethernet switches will all fit your needs

The issue is latency

[wraith epoch]

Idk anything about switches I just want something that responds quick if that makes sense

[timid pivot]

And that's usually found in your network interface, router and ISP (can't do nothing about the last one besides changing ISP sadly)

[timid pivot]

Switches respond quick alright, literally any of them

Your regular Joe's switch is basically a "power strip" for network cables, instead of electricity it funnels data
Of course there's a limit to the volume of data that can pass through at once but FPS games don't need a whole lot of that (unless you download a new game but that's a one time thing and a whole other problem)

And switch tech has been so refined that your generic switch will not be the source of your network's latency

You can take pretty much any and you'll be good to go

[wraith epoch]

Ok thanks

[timid pivot]

@wraith epoch if you need me to name a brand safe to go with then look up TP-Link, they're cheap, reliable, efficient

Got a 5 port gigabit switch, it sips power and does the job as expected

My laptop, desktop and PS5 are plugged on it, no network issues there

[wraith epoch]

Ok

Thank you again

[timid pivot]

No problem

Have fun

[boreal rivet]

dude

he was referring to keyboard switches

[timid pivot]

Oh fuck

@wraith epoch I fucked up

I thought I was in the networking channel

and that you were asking about a network switch, not a keyboard switch

[wraith epoch]

Ohh

lol

Any recommendations on switches tho

[sonic cape]

and i have two that ill gladly ship to you for free

i need to get rid of them

[drifting mauve]

:o

What region do you live?

[sonic cape]

europe

and you ?

[drifting mauve]

US

west coast

[sonic cape]

damn

thats like

10k miles

[timid pivot]

sorry mate, can't cover you on that one, my thing's IT networking, not keyboard

[wraith epoch]

Oh all good man

[timid pivot]

though I don't doubt you'll have people helping you out here

[prime kayak]

Anyone have a recomendation for a quiet 60%?

Im soon to be in a "apartment" like place, so id rather it be quiet. or even 100%, Really want it to be quiet

[cedar acorn]

I'm new to buying keyboards and I'm looking for recommendations for some under $80 USD. I'll be using them for gaming, and I'm not too familiar with switch types (just know about basic cherry mx ones), but linear and mechanical is preferred. Also 60% or 75% is what I'm looking for

[bitter oar]

aula f75, ajazz ak820 pro

[bitter oar]

switches are already plenty fast. you don’t need optical ones unless you’re really up to the 0.0001ms light stuff, you rather need a fast reponding pcb rather

i’d stick to normal switches

[wraith epoch]

So it rlly doesn’t matter what kind of linear switches I go with

[bitter oar]

lower actuation switches will generally provide the “extra reponse”

[wraith epoch]

Ok

[bitter oar]

yes, it’s about sound and feel 99% of the time

[wraith epoch]

Ok thank you

[bitter oar]

there are hall effect switches/boards where you can adjust the actuation force

[wraith epoch]

Should I get pre lubed or lube myself

[wraith epoch]

Are they expensive tho

[bitter oar]

lube yourself ideally

but, it takes well over 2 hours

[limpid oyster]

Switches TLDR:
Switch Types / Feels:
Linear: I dont want to feel much when i press a key
Tactile: I want to feel when i press a key
Clicky: I want EVERYONE to hear when i press a key
Magnetic: I think mag switches make me a better gamer

Linear have the least strain on your fingers.
Tactile give you the physical response you might be used to with an older keyboard.
Nobody really likes Clicky. Nobody really needs Magnetic.

[wraith epoch]

I’ve never done it before it would be quite the experience

[bitter oar]

or around that mark

[bitter oar]

thin layer is all you need

never apply a lube amount on the switch stem that is visible by the colour

just enough so you can see the reflection

[wraith epoch]

Ok

Does it make your life easier if you buy that lube kit with the switch opener

[bitter oar]

overlubing is also fine but you never want to apply layer that is clearly visible

[limpid oyster]

If you can still see the color of the lube after its been applied to the switch, its too much

[bitter oar]

alot

atleast the switch opener

[wraith epoch]

Would it be ok just to wipe it off if it’s to much then

[bitter oar]

yes

with something clean ofc

[wraith epoch]

Nah bruh ima use the dirty towel that’s been sitting out side lol

[wraith epoch]

Of course

[lost cobalt]

is this owerkill for a first mechanical keyboard

[bitter oar]

overpriced gateron yellows

[limpid oyster]

No, your starting at upper middle tier stuff. Gats are overpriced though.

[cunning anvil]

blooptoop

[bitter oar]

either get gaterons yellow x47’s or wuque mondari

[lost cobalt]

too late

[lost cobalt]

i hate my lifeđ

[bitter oar]

also, rainy 75.

starting at $99

[wraith epoch]

Are these good switches? Are they the thocky kind (I’ve never dealt with switches before)

[bitter oar]

price?

[wraith epoch]

40$ usd

[bitter oar]

glorious? hopefully it ain’t lubed by glube

[lost cobalt]

not on candykeys or keygem

[wraith epoch]

Oh so maybe look for a different brand

[lost cobalt]

:whyamihere to suffer

[bitter oar]

it’s uh “kickstarter” you’ll get the keyboard by february-march

[lost cobalt]

too late

[bitter oar]

they even show’d the 2000 keyboards that are already done

[lost cobalt]

snd from where do they ship

[limpid oyster]

not much on cannonkeys is going to be "beginner" tbh lol

[bitter oar]

wobkey rn, they’ll do amazon later on too

[lost cobalt]

region

[limpid oyster]

Maybe their Brutal series, but everythig else, not really

[bitter oar]

china?

[lost cobalt]

yeah i dont like amazon and import and shiping so yeah

that would be 150 at least

[bitter oar]

more like $20 + $10 tax

[cunning anvil]

tri mode is cool

[lost cobalt]

i use euro

[bitter oar]

$10~ customs fee + $20 vat

$150 is still better than…

280

[bitter oar]

could’ve bought mondari switches

maxgaming has €0.33 per piece

which is prolly the best prelubed value switch rn

[bitter oar]

maxgaming

and search “wuque”

[lost cobalt]

im not getting anything else i already ordered my stuff

[bitter oar]

cancel

or contact them to cancel certain stuff

unless it has been shipped

[lost cobalt]

i cant be bothered anymore

[lost cobalt]

yeah it has

[bitter oar]

rip

tho, those gateron yellows are insanely priced

milky yellows are usually like $0.2> a piece

that’s the right price

and those aren’t even milky yellows

[lost cobalt]

candy keys

[bitter oar]

just gats yellow

[bitter oar]

that’s first time me see gatteron ink yellows

tought there we’re only blacks

[limpid oyster]

Someone near me is selling a Black Cyberboard for $400

[bitter oar]

pic

[limpid oyster]

got them down to 400 so far

[bitter oar]

nice

[limpid oyster]

I might not be able to pick it up if someone wants an intermediary

[bitter oar]

i wish if that entire led panel was actually lcd

i think this is keyboards channel i’d suggest offtopic

[limpid oyster]

You might be, other might not

[cedar acorn]

what do you guys think about the rk61

[bitter oar]

there are better options

royal kludge keyboards no longer offrer good value

better than gaming keyboards but still niche

[bitter oar]

overrated.

mechanical better

[bitter oar]

tho, i have to write a disclaimer:
(it’s about preference)

[boreal rivet]

Topre is underrated if anything

Everyone should own a topre 🫡

[limpid oyster]

Aren't those the like sudo hybrid rubber mech switches?

[crisp patrol]

overrated*

at least the shitty boards with awful domes

used a hhkb pro classic and it sucked

[boreal rivet]

Sucks to have shit taste

[crisp patrol]

shit tactility = shit keyboard

plate for it was worse too

pro1 + aged domes = peak

[boreal rivet]

👍

[boreal rivet]

Bro probably isn’t able to afford one 😭

[bitter oar]

they sound like overlubed gateron black’s and feel like also, lime that with a membrane implementation. idk how to descrobe it. i didn’t like them

[boreal rivet]

👆

[limpid oyster]

Keebs are subjective in the end. My wife likes Silent ink blacks, i like black lotuses and epo flamingo's. To each their own

[bitter oar]

overrated for my taste

[bitter oar]

yup

[limpid oyster]

My wife keeb feels like typing on jello. Its a Ducky 3 full size with silent ink blacks. I hate it

[bitter oar]

subjective, i hate them. the end.

[boreal rivet]

Topre the only switch that is exempt from the preference argument

So it’s okay to have shit taste

[bitter oar]

nope

[boreal rivet]

Try again when you aren’t relying on sound tests to judge keyboards 😃

[bitter oar]

i’m not alone who hates them tbh

[boreal rivet]

I like topre

[bitter oar]

that i don’t own a “topper” keyboard doesn’t mean i haven’t tried it

[boreal rivet]

I can tell you haven’t

[bitter oar]

i’m not the only one in my country with custom keyboards ya know

[boreal rivet]

That is irrelevant

[bitter oar]

relevant is that i tried the keyboard through my friend

[boreal rivet]

I’m sure 👍

[bitter oar]

he has like 15 of them

or had?

[boreal rivet]

Who owns 15 topre keyboards wtf

[bitter oar]

hhkb with 55g topre i believe

[bitter oar]

he had 1 tf

[boreal rivet]

And so what did you not like about it then?

[bitter oar]

me struggling to describe

i may buy one just to dislike it tbh

ah it costs a kidney nvm

$199 ain’t bad tho

i may afford that in few months or so

[boreal rivet]

That is fair play

Do it

[bitter oar]

though, i have a question…

why does it lack capslock

i mean… sure most of the part it’s useless but i do often remap the key for something else

uh crtl

my damn brain

what do you like about the topre switches btw

@boreal rivet

[bitter oar]

(ignore this part where i had stroke, tought they moved up crtl and removed capslock, didn’t expect them to remove crtl, and well it’s late night so ._.)

i don’t believe you have tried proper switches

what are your favourite linear switches

wtf

you are kidding right

okay, i’m not even surprised you like topre

there are million switches that are better than mx lineup

have you tried gateron black inks/ oil kings, other heavy/ thocky swicthes. also, this board doesn’t sound much apart from rainy 75 when you remove all foam

okay… which cherry mx black

damn i’m going to get a stroke

[boreal rivet]

Reliable and better than mx tactiles

[bitter oar]

there are atleast two types.
cherry mx black and
cherry mx black with top white housing

how do you not know it when you literally… uh

that also technically counts

emh but, they still do exist even if they “suck”

ur comparing neo65 with a tkl keyboard. different sound characteristics just because of the body size. also, i doubt you’ve used the exact same dampening methods

oh wopsie

and the dampening?

[glossy mica]

mx switches are the only switches that sound completely unique

[bitter oar]

which foam inbetween the pcb and plate

0? how much ping are you enjoying? or well, probably none because those higher end boards have resolved some

[boreal rivet]

Looking forward to the next episode 🙏

Realforce is better

[bitter oar]

didn’t you recommend wooting to someone who wants to game but not use the hall effect at all @boreal rivet

that they use it for gaming doesn’t mean they don’t deserve better sound

it’s also pricey.

[boreal rivet]

wow are you coming for me now

me is scared

[bitter oar]

it costs $150

not like it’s horrendously alot but,

pretty sure there are boards with 2ms reponse time

that don’t cost $150

[boreal rivet]

i recommended the wooting because gamers are stubborn and only really care about the features that have been sold to them

I also kind of like the wooting because they know their market

[bitter oar]

yes, but he said he doesn’t care about the hall effect, which stripes out one of the major reasons why to buy one

[boreal rivet]

you fail to understand that the average gamer is stupid and doesn't know features like rapid trigger and the fast response times rely on hall effect switches to work

[bitter oar]

numpad

[boreal rivet]

to elaborate on this, after years of the enthusiast community ignoring HEs and opticals, wooting managed to basically will them into relevance and now you can see even keychron developing a HE board

I will always appreciate them for that

even if i still think the wooting is gamer copium

[bitter oar]

i mean, average gamer is perfectly fine with an ajazz ak820 pro for example

[boreal rivet]

no shit

[bitter oar]

what’s wrong with it

5.5ms~ latency is pretty much fine for gaemer

[boreal rivet]

huh what did I say that criticised the ajazz

[bitter oar]

then what’s with the “no shit”

[boreal rivet]

"no shit the average gamer will perform fine with an ajazz ak820 pro"

real

[bitter oar]

it has a screen lmao

which gaemer doesn’t like free screen

at $50?

and a knob on top

average gamer is a cheapskate no?

[boreal rivet]

new episode dropping so soon damn

topre >

[bitter oar]

venus >
ws mondari ~

yo making me nightmares

no matter what you say i won’t change my opinion on cherry switches

well, maybe the purple mx switches from the funny youtuber