What even is this
#peripherals
urban jetty
amber tartan
adaptive controller for gamers with one hand
arctic shuttle
That controller is GARBO
amber tartan
rama moment
main narwhal
Man
U know what the keeb town poster was?
And then the artist had to change it coz all that shit with Rama and hibi happened lol
amber tartan
yeah its a shame
i did see hibi andy n kate in a meet at least
(and hibiki)
not my pic
main narwhal
Lel
viscid tapir
yeah isn't it Elvish?
sort of elvish font for english lanugage
i like it just not green
unique hatch
lol
swift forge
this is the lord of the rings
I know, I mentioned Hebrew afterward bc it also looks cool
Oh right they’re not GMK
zinc wave
Looking at switches for a number pad. Deciding between mx clear and mx brown. My current keyboard has browns. Anyone have experience with both?
stray cloud
just found transparent keycaps. they look sick in pictures
urban jetty
Been thinking of replacing my g915 with another low profile keyboard
vale creek
Looking to get new keyboards for my setup (need two) and recommendations?
inland hearth
hey gang spilled some energy drinnk on my g915. cleaned as best i could and it works fine but the presses feel atrocious. whats my best option to actually like clean the switches?
torn saffron
hey gang spilled some energy drinnk on my g915. cleaned as best i could and it w...
Clean as much as you can with alcohol. Otherwise get the soldering gun
amber tartan
Looking to get new keyboards for my setup (need two) and recommendations?
2x realforces
valid siren
I prefer yellows
chrome raft
What is the thockiest switch for gaming
boreal rivet
Topre
amber tartan
electro captives (EC)
devout rock
I am looking for a good budget mechanical keyboard for gaming and basic computing so a TKL or a 75% would be great. Any suggestions?
boreal rivet
electro captives (EC)
Electro-capacitive
amber tartan
Electro-capacitive
boreal rivet
pseudo owl
LOL
unique hatch
@swift forge @arctic shuttle
arctic shuttle
<@775224595573506079> <@404144700681879552>
Proud of you
unique hatch
Feels and sounds way better then my previous
urban panther
oh wow
yep
they feel just okay after lubing
they were in a keeb my gf built for herself like 2 years ago so I cleaned it and lubed her switches today
I think the only spare switches I have are some gateron browns and reds
maybe some kailh reds as well
unique hatch
they were in a keeb my gf built for herself like 2 years ago so I cleaned it and...
damn
how does the keyboard sound?
urban panther
how does the keyboard sound?
Haven't reassembled yet
gonna lube the stabs and finish cleaning the inside of the frame tomorrow (her cat liked to sit on it so cat hair everywhere 😵💫 )
The switches feel a lot better lubed tho
unique hatch
The switches feel a lot better lubed tho
yeah I can imagine, is that where you brush the switches with a coating?
urban panther
yes
swift forge
<@775224595573506079> <@404144700681879552>
Good on ya
verbal zinc
It arrived! I won't get much time with it this week as I'm away on vacation though. Hype to use it a lot next week! Initial thoughts pressing the keys for a few moments, absolutely love it!
smoky comet
sonic cape
It arrived! I won't get much time with it this week as I'm away on vacation thou...
Looks nice
unique hatch
It arrived! I won't get much time with it this week as I'm away on vacation thou...
Nice!
chrome raft
<@775224595573506079> <@404144700681879552>
Dude chosen keychron as his first prebuild board
Wise
wooden ember
Scene from Batman Returns at 1:29:26. I would kill for a replica of these caps
quiet willow
i need a good recommendation on a budget mechanical keyboard
unique hatch
Dude chosen keychron as his first prebuild board
❤️
arctic shuttle
Scene from Batman Returns at 1:29:26. I would kill for a replica of these caps
They are PGA White (A) and Black (M)
Good luck finding an in stock set
SA not quite the profile though
SA dolce also very far off
It's white and black my guy
You could probably mix MT3 BoW and WoB to match it pretty close
It's either a Honeywell or a beam spring
Wtf is sa deepwell
That's close
There are custom mods anyway
main narwhal
SA wouldn't be quite as scoopy as the ones in that picture
mt3 on the other hand is prty scoop central lol
main narwhal
Mt3 so scoopy that it's a little jarring at first lol
amber tartan
kat/kam > mt3 > SA for me
amber tartan
i see how it is then
glossy mica
amber tartan
agreed
arctic shuttle
DCS > KAT > MT3 > SA
You gonna call me wack now
Lemme see
Tag me
Yo tf he selling a korn for in our server
Wild
Sbl good price
amber tartan
used leopold topre
arctic shuttle
Copre
past vortex
LTT is going to need a new test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2D7nDd7-do&ab_channel=optimum
shut night
guys i wanna start building a keyboard but on a quite low budget, what are good cheap swithes
boreal rivet
Used topre
arctic shuttle
guys i wanna start building a keyboard but on a quite low budget, what are good ...
Gateron Yellows
Jwick Blacks
shut night
thx
prisma lagoon
can you use lekker switches (with fetures like setting your accuation point and rappid trigger) on akko keyboard to be specific the Black & Silver 5075B Plus ISO
zinc wave
Since we are on the subject, what are some good barebones keyboards?
boreal rivet
topre
sonic cape
Since we are on the subject, what are some good barebones keyboards?
keychron,akko
zinc wave
Oo akko stuff looks nice. Too bad they have a lot out of stock right now
sonic cape
Oo akko stuff looks nice. Too bad they have a lot out of stock right now
they do ? where you from ?
zinc wave
Us
sonic cape
they had a massive sale recently , boards up to 50% off
so thats probably the reason, whats your budget ?
zinc wave
Ideally less than 100 for the kit. Not including switches and keycaps. Cheaper would be even better
serene lodge
lets see more setups! i know theres some crazy builds in here
sonic cape
Ideally less than 100 for the kit. Not including switches and keycaps. Cheaper w...
keychron
sonic cape
lets see more setups! i know theres some crazy builds in here
setups ?
try Monsgeek
they make diy kits for 100ish
full alu
zinc wave
keychron
That was one i was considering. Microcenter has a barebones 75% kit i was interested in as well
sonic cape
That was one i was considering. Microcenter has a barebones 75% kit i was intere...
yeah go for that
zinc wave
The keychron or the Microcenter?
sonic cape
the box says
alu casw
and description says plastic
but even if its half alu, gasket mount is awesome
id go for that
looks pretty good
zinc wave
They were pretty hefty when i picked one up
zinc wave
Could be same oem
sonic cape
Could be same oem
maybe yeah
either way akko or keychron are great choices
or if you wanna scour aliexpress there are many other cheaper options
zinc wave
Eh ill stay away from aliexpress
sonic cape
damn I have only great things to say about ali 😄
yeah on some items the prices are cheaper elsewhere but also they have soo much stuff
zinc wave
I know there is some good stuff on there occasionally, its just hard to tell whats good and whats not
amber tartan
I know there is some good stuff on there occasionally, its just hard to tell wha...
this is great
arctic shuttle
looks almosrt identical to a monsgeek m1
It looks identical to a gmmk pro
amber tartan
Proof that 75% is ass cheeks
only good 75 is the 7v because gok is god
sonic cape
It looks identical to a gmmk pro
yeah also
zinc wave
It looks identical to a gmmk pro
Wouldn't be surprised if it was literally the same as well
arctic shuttle
Seems like microcenter is selling cope now
amber tartan
ew exploded
zinc wave
Seems like microcenter is selling cope now
Just jumping on the hype probably
Whats wrong with 75%?
arctic shuttle
I'm trying to find an hhkb pro 2 in all white around $150-$200
obtuse dome
i just plugged in a keyboard and it isn't working
nor doesn't it appear in device manager
obtuse dome
do i have to send it back?
zinc wave
What brand?
obtuse dome
hyperx
zinc wave
Try a different port?
obtuse dome
i tried all 7 thet were on my pc
nevermind i guess i'm just stupid
now it works
thanmk you
arctic shuttle
Literally nothing
Clearly I'm using something wrong on superbuy cause I get zero results
boreal rivet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1006976679354318988.webp?size=48&name=pepelaugh~1&quality=lossless
sonic cape
you got a taobao link ?
west quartz
what are the best keyboard mods? (excluding foam and lube)
stray cloud
tape
west quartz
how to tape
sonic cape
o ring
west quartz
wtf is o ring
sonic cape
just tape the back of the pcb with masking tape
stray cloud
or electrical
sonic cape
2 layers work great
stray cloud
wtf is o ring
rubber ring shaped like an o
west quartz
waht difference does it make
sonic cape
o ring is putting o rings on standoffs on tray mount
work somewhat, not perfectly
it makes hell of a difference
stray cloud
reduces vibrations and adds thock
astral ruin
Which keyboard is better epomaker th80 pro or epomaker aura75?
sonic cape
Which keyboard is better epomaker th80 pro or epomaker aura75?
epomaker th80pro
but overall stay away from epomaker
astral ruin
why
astral ruin
like what?
dusky brook
zinc wave
Not the rgb ones
zinc wave
I mean cherry reds dont have much of a sound
Unless you count that subtle plastic sliding on plastic sound
viscid tapir
gateron g pro yellow 3.0 clear top are really good
much better than milky version personally and factory lube is near perfect with very little wobble
zinc wave
Haven't tried many switches but pandas are top for me
stray cloud
I didn't have the opportunity to try them so I went mx reds
grim bronze
I’m looking for a 104-key keyboard with Cherry blues or similar, as cheap as possible
stray cloud
switches are something you can't just buy without trying them
stray cloud
I’m looking for a 104-key keyboard with Cherry blues or similar, as cheap as pos...
how cheap we talking?
grim bronze
how cheap we talking?
Something reputable, but not high end.
Something with a good company behind it but not a “brand name” if you know what I mean?
Like Behringer? But keyboards instead of audio equipment
stray cloud
if it's in your budget, maybe a keychron?
though clickies like blues will be noisy
I gtg though, I'll respond in an hour or so. if anyone else wants to chime in go right ahead
chrome raft
velvet minnow
should i get a
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Z7J4KV3/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1 (logitech g413)
or a https://www.newegg.com/evga-z15-rgb-kailh-speed-silver/p/N82E16823953007 (evga z15)
im upgrading from my shitty ass redragon keyboard and i want smth good and i shouldnt have to replace for quite a few years
i mainly do programming along playing fps, rhythm, and platformer games
boreal rivet
Realforce
velvet minnow
Realforce
if your responding to mine, i kinda... cant
im trying to keep a budget of $50-60, maybe $70 if im willing to spend that much
boreal rivet
Oh
left mountain
though clickies like blues will be noisy
Does keychron have a quiet keyboard and I assume I'll have to buy a hand rest too
left mountain
Quiet/gentle mean they sound like a membrane keyboard or quieter?
inland hearth
does anyone else's bluetooth on their logitech g915 really suck? left my receiver in a friends pc so have to use bt, but it frequently disconnects, and just doesnt work at all if i have an object near the back of the keyboard
past vortex
bluetooth sucks in general? but that sounds bad for bluetooth. If your on a desktop, are you using your anetna?
chrome raft
how should i mod my keychron v1, i have custom keycaps and gat yellows
i didnt put the foam in it yet
or the stuff that came in it
*with it
thorny plank
Opinions needed. Keychron Q1 QMK Custom Mechanical Keyboard - Version 2 or Wooting 60HE.
boreal rivet
Realforce is better
thorny plank
thanks, but inquiring specifically about those two. 🙂
zinc wave
Im looking for keycaps for a 75% board. It has south facing rgb. Should i get some shine-through keycaps to fully utilize the leds?
swift forge
thanks, but inquiring specifically about those two. 🙂
Sound wise or anything else
Wooting should suit you just fine
Has more functionality and reliable developers for working on the customisation software
thorny plank
Sound wise or anything else
the 'best' keyboard i've had is the razer huntsman.. but i want something more premium and not just pay for a name and shit ecosystem... so i've watched several reviews and landed on those two.. but for the occasional FPS games i play.. it looks like the wooting may be better suited.
modest blaze
does anyone know what's a good RGB keyboard for rs 2500? (30usd)
Cosmic Byte CB-GK-23 Artemis 68Key Per Key RGB Wired Mechanical Keyboard with Outemu Blue Switches and Software (Black) https://amzn.eu/d/9Q5oaFF this
ASUS Membrane USB Gaming Keyboard for PC - TUF K1 Programmable, Onboard Memory with Dedicated Volume Knob, Aura Sync RGB and Side Lighting Detachable Wrist Rest Spill-Resistant (Black) https://amzn.eu/d/9CGvTuF or this
sonic cape
does anyone know what's a good RGB keyboard for rs 2500? (30usd)
thats a very low budget
try aliexpress
prisma lagoon
can you use lekker switches (with fetures like setting your accuation point and rappid trigger) on akko keyboard to be specific the Black & Silver 5075B Plus ISO
does the akko 5075b plus support hall sensor
modest blaze
thats a very low budget
im thinking between tuf k1 and vapoo v500
ones membrane and others mechanical
sonic cape
ones membrane and others mechanical
stay away from membrane
glad dawn
You know, what has membranes? The mitochondria, which is the powerhouse of the cell
boreal rivet
indeed you should stay away from membrane keyboards like the model m
amber tartan
this is dumb
zinc wave
Whats wrong with it?
glad dawn
It's dumb, it doesn't have AI included /s
boreal rivet
flexcuts!!!!!
i love flexcuts
truly the innovation of the century
everything should have flexcuts
the chassis doesn't have enough flexcuts imo
modest blaze
~~You know, what has membranes? The mitochondria, which is the powerhouse of the...
yeah
energy compounds , atp
adenosine triphosphate
although it's a totally different thing
modest blaze
stay away from membrane
its shit?
stray cloud
they don't feel as good as mechanical
boreal rivet
wait so you're saying the model m feels bad????!!!!
stray cloud
probably, if it's membrane, it doesn't feel nice
boreal rivet
stray cloud
memchanical is different
buckling spring is a different thing to just membrane. it's not even on topic
boreal rivet
so are regular rubberdomes memchanical too?
those use membranes just for sensing too dipshit
a membrane on its on literally wouldn't function as a keyboard so yes its on topic
stray cloud
it's not?
it's litterally mechanical switches but with membrane rather than contacts
yes, but combined with mechanical switches
memchanical
mechanical switches but membrane under it
boreal rivet
you realise those "memchanical" switches are just regular rubber domes with a click leaf right?
its not a discrete switch or anything
dumbass lol
stray cloud
then i could be wrong, oh well
what? mechanical is better than membrane?
imo, yes
i'm not though
modern mechanical is far better than modern membrane
i mean, i'd love to be corrected tbh
that's how i learn
i'll look them up
boreal rivet
yes topre uses rubberdomes and capacitive sensing
stray cloud
but not the cheap ass white membrane stuff, right?
the ones you find in cheap logitechs
because quality differs with price
wdym
please, explain what you mean so my "non hobbyist" brain understands
i won't, but ok
i get your point, there's a point where you get diminishing returns
i'm not?
i say i don't know much about it but i try to help
bc hypyo exists?
keyboard youtubers exist
boreal rivet
dude trying to help doesn't mean you have to defend your opinion to the grave
stray cloud
i'm not trying to
says the elitist
whatever
it's new people to the hobby that hurts it
sure
boreal rivet
no its new people who present their opinions as fact that hurt it really
stray cloud
not the elitist that rather want to laugh at noobs and flame them
stray cloud
no its new people who present their opinions as fact that hurt it really
then my fucking bad
then i'm sorry, happy?
that's not a toxic thing to do at all
nice job hiding that react
i'd love info, but not be corrected in a snarky way, so please, tell me your wisdom
i'm all ears
here: what are topre switches?
boreal rivet
google it dude
stray cloud
bruh
i want to learn from the hobbyist
you know what? fine, here's one i can't ask google: what are your favourite switches?
which ones do you recommend?
stray cloud
are there any different types of topre switches>?
but their actuation force is what makes them different?
stray cloud
what are housings for topres?
boreal rivet
did you read the page at all
stray cloud
alright, my bad
if you're going to flame me again, i'm gonna leave.
alright
i read it
so, they're kinda like cherrymx, but membranes?
or is that a bad take?
and they still suffer from the accidental bottoming out of membrane boards?
stray cloud
i've heard of buckling springs from shortcircuit tbh
boreal rivet
ok
just disregard anything ltt says wrt keyboards
including plouffe
actually mice too
stray cloud
i'm guessing they don't get it right with keyboards?
boreal rivet
have you read the pages
stray cloud
i'm getting to it
boreal rivet
i'm guessing they don't get it right with keyboards?
no they don't
stray cloud
is it in general, or is it with keyboards other than membrane or mechanical?
boreal rivet
everything
sage wren
Anyone with the ROG Strix Scope II 96 , got any modding recommendations or switch replacements 
stray cloud
i can't say i fully agree to it, since they do seem to get mechanicals right, but i'll be wary of it
mice i do get, forgetting to remove the film under a mouse is pretty dumb
boreal rivet
if i'm being honest their peripheral videos are only useful for manufacturers to learn how to make the UX easy for techbros
boreal rivet
i can't say i fully agree to it, since they do seem to get mechanicals right, bu...
they don't
stray cloud
even switches?
how so?
IC or GB?
oh
from my limited knowledge, group buys are stupid, right?
so, it's better for smaller keyboard makers?
no
oh
so kinda like a preorder?
but if you become a bigger company, then it's a different strat?
or same thing?
then, if it's group buys, why can they sell out? can't they just order as many as they need?
or is there a window?
and once that goes over, it's sold out?
boreal rivet
and once that goes over, it's sold out?
not strictly true
its supposed to mean minimum orders before the gb can proceed
stray cloud
ok, makes sense
but if they don't, they don't order more?
fair enough
why would people charge back? wouldn't the company just send the order anyways?
even if it doesn't sell well?
boreal rivet
are you talking about boards or keycaps lmao
stray cloud
oh, ok. that would explain why
ionic briar
endgame is just a mentality
stray cloud
though, membrane and mechanical is mostly objective, right?
if you like membrane, get membrane, if you like mechanical, go mechanical?
ionic briar
i mean everything that involves you using it is subjective
stray cloud
fair enough
pretty much, yeah
it's just how it feels to you that matters
ok, welp, thanks for the knawledge, learned alot today
boreal rivet
if you like membrane, get membrane, if you like mechanical, go mechanical?
I see you still haven't read the pages I linked
stray cloud
I see you still haven't read the pages I linked
I did, it's just that i haven't tried topres, so I can't make an opinion on them
boreal rivet
I did, it's just that i haven't tried topres, so I can't make an opinion on them
ok ill just say it straight, do not use mechanical or membrane to describe keyboards
describe and form an opinion on them using the switches
and construction etc
stray cloud
fair enough, it's not the board that's membrane or mechanical, it's the switches
or optical if we want to start that flame war
amber tartan
fuck i missed the fight
main narwhal
or they buy ice cream machines and porches lel
main narwhal
did you see this lol
dusty aurora
is it worth getting the volume knob on the keychron V2
zinc wave
If you think you would use it
dusty aurora
If you think you would use it
fair point
zinc wave
They are pretty neat
I have questions though. Why do so many keyboard kits come with south facing leds? It seems like many enthusiasts don't use lights and the south facing ones are apparently bad for backlight and shine through?
Like i understand the clearance issue but why include the leds still?
main narwhal
coz it doesn't otherwise impact the experience
a "might as well and attract customers who want it" sorta deal, coz if they didn't want RGB to begin with they can just leave it off
arctic shuttle
I have questions though. Why do so many keyboard kits come with south facing led...
Before people started making switches where the stem was centered, they use to be off center which would effect keycap compatibility, specifically with Cherry style keycaps when paired with North facing LED's
Plus, enthusiasts don't use shine through due to a major drop in quality compared to that of standard double shot abs
Sorry I went a little elitist there I'll tone it down father
Damn
zinc wave
So its kinda just there... because?
I guess if the boards allow it, they might as well
arctic shuttle
What do you mean
zinc wave
Like the contacts for leds are on the boards. Probaby doesn't cost the oem much to add the leds
arctic shuttle
You have to design the PCB for it
Once you get over a certain price point, people don't care about RGB or backlit keys
Like if I'm spending $800 on a board I'm not going to care of it has RGB or not because that's not why I'm buying the board, and just people share that opinion
Hell I personally prefer solder PCB's over hot swap
zinc wave
But if we are looking at like mass-produced boards in like keychron or whatever. Is it just easier to have it as a default that to have 2 different boards?
arctic shuttle
But if we are looking at like mass-produced boards in like keychron or whatever....
For South facing leds
zinc wave
Right
arctic shuttle
It makes sense to have them all South to avoid keycap interference issues
zinc wave
Right i knew about the interference, i just wasn't sure why they would include them at all if they dont work great on the south. I think i understand now tho
arctic shuttle
Oh the shine through keycaps, cause they still work
And shine through are dirt cheap to manuf
main narwhal
Right i knew about the interference, i just wasn't sure why they would include t...
In case someone wanted it pretty much
Yada Yada, better to have something available and not need/want it vs not having it at all
zinc wave
Makes sense
main narwhal
Coz you don't know what the purchaser will ultimately want
zinc wave
Makes it hard for me, cause i feel somewhat obligated to use the rgb even though it may not look great with whatever keycaps i pick
left mountain
Do you guys have hand rests on your keyboards?
hot elk
Can anyone tell me why my windows key stops working? I have to restart my pc to fix it and did not hit the wind lock button on my keyboard
robust ridge
anybody know anytihng about via not working with the mosngeek m1
sonic cape
anybody know anytihng about via not working with the mosngeek m1
you have the international version ?
i bought the chinese one from Taobao and its not via compatible
monsgeek m3
zinc wave
I need to find a cool set of mt3 profile keycaps. I really like that vintagey key shape
sonic cape
I need to find a cool set of mt3 profile keycaps. I really like that vintagey ke...
drop has a lot of mt3
zinc wave
Yeah they seem to be the main seller of that profile
boreal rivet
they are the only first party seller
arctic shuttle
I need to find a cool set of mt3 profile keycaps. I really like that vintagey ke...
MT3 Olivetti
Or Camillo
Same thing
ionic briar
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/742789844526432377/1149693394491297832/Screenshot_20230908-090951.png?width=551&height=701
g80 1800 ansi?
amber sage
For 35 euros, whats a good mechanical keyboard to get?
zinc wave
Same thing
I weirdly like the noctua caps. I dont own any noctua stuff though
arctic shuttle
I weirdly like the noctua caps. I dont own any noctua stuff though
It's gmk bread with extra steps
random berry
amber tartan
you get what you paid for
amber tartan
jtk 404
past vortex
arctic shuttle
arctic shuttle
Looks like a warped Etsy special
sage wren
its just a resin keycaps
rare bone
anyone know how to swap this to ISO in VIA, my keyboard changes to ansi sometimes and then my @ key goes to the number 2 instead of the key above the right shift
As you can see it's not quite right at the moment
fathom terrace
looking for a keyboard with TLK and membrane/flat. and i suck at finding online ratings on this.
i know of some good price comparison sites, but i have yet to find one thats good with comparing keyboards on performance/value regardless of offer.
got any good website that allows for tag-oriented rating search on keyboards?
i have a convertible but i need a way to easily switch between touch and typing, so i am looking for a quiet keyboard that is quiet/slim, not too overkill and decent quality in that order
having the keyboard out makes it near impossible to accurately write on screen
fathom terrace
from what little i found, the MX Keys are favored by many Logitech K380
fathom terrace
also what the hell is TLK, flat and convertible keyboard
flat, usually also implies membrane. there are a lot of keyboards that have a membrane but use big keycaps to imitate mechanicals, which are usually the type of keyboards you find under "membrane" rankings.
when i look for just "quiet" keyboards it tends to be mechanicals, and even the most expensive 600€ ones still are louder than a stock laptop keyboard. plus, i prefer to stay below 100 if possible, albeit 200€ is my max.
and convertible is the laptop im using. also often called 2in1
im used to calling it that, and its part of its official branding afaik
amber tartan
realforce ticks all those quotas
fathom terrace
this one is the k380 i talked about. flat, presumeably quiet and has a 65% layout afaik. plus it has a device switcher
amber tartan
real good
fathom terrace
they dont look flat tho
like, i dont mind bigger keys if it werent for the typing sound. flat keys means quieter tippytaps
dont wanna be the loud guy during my uni lecture
if it was just work from home id go with a good keychron k5 deal i found online
fathom terrace
dont tell me i started another brand war in #peripherals
sonic cape
ive been looking at his messages for some time and he only and always suggests realforce to everyone
fathom terrace
this dude suggest them to everyone, he´s not helping you
i mean id never take any advise for granted. but advise helps me focus on some key canidates
sonic cape
I mean they are good boards
unkempt dome
cause realforce is good
sonic cape
but its not a universal answer
unkempt dome
they are fairly quiet board
sonic cape
topre isnt the answer
fathom terrace
i dont need office quiet, i need lecture hearing quiet
sonic cape
budget ?
fathom terrace
flat, usually also implies membrane. there are a lot of keyboards that have a me...
^
boreal rivet
ive been looking at his messages for some time and he only and always suggests r...
wow dude rent free much?
anyways realforce is good
boreal rivet
better than 95% of keyboards out there
sonic cape
not really
boreal rivet
yeah it is
fathom terrace
yeah considered that, but the ones that can compete with membrane in quietness are 200+
sonic cape
ok your confirmation bias is so obvious 😄
fathom terrace
at least the one that get shilled
sonic cape
just dont spend cash on topre if you dont need it
fathom terrace
topre?
boreal rivet
i think maybe try giving opinions when you have experience with switches that aren't just mx clones
fathom terrace
id prefer something i like using for longer amounts of time. i always try avoiding throwaway products
sonic cape
yeah realforce is topre
boreal rivet
the realforce will last you atleast a decade
sonic cape
😄
boreal rivet
ill say that much
sonic cape
hahahahaha
boreal rivet
I've spilt atleast 5 cups of water and one jug onto it and no problems so far
sonic cape
XD
boreal rivet
also been using it daily for 4 years now
there are many second hand units that have been used for upwards of a decade
fathom terrace
either way even if realforce was secretly good and every critics corrupt, i have yet to see an actual FLAT membrane keyboard by them
sorry
sonic cape
eh
boreal rivet
those exist actually
fathom terrace
unless it makes little difference in sound
sonic cape
fathom terrace
but from my experience flat is always best for sound, even with quiet mechanicals
boreal rivet
but from my experience flat is always best for sound, even with quiet mechanical...
not really true
fathom terrace
not really true
sound as in quiet
boreal rivet
flat usually implies rubberdome which are inherently pretty quiet
sonic cape
fathom terrace
im not looking for good:10 & quiet:5, im looking for quiet:10
i agree that mechanicals are on average much better than membrane minus the cost, but im hyperfocusing on the quietness rn
boreal rivet
either way even if realforce was secretly good and every critics corrupt, i have...
no this dude just thinks it bad and not worth it because its expensive new and that i've been shilling it and nothing else here lol
sonic cape
ive tested some mechs with super quiet switches
fathom terrace
doesnt have to be 0DB but it should be on the level of an average laptop keyboard
boreal rivet
doesnt have to be 0DB but it should be on the level of an average laptop keyboar...
well thats topre
its even quieter if you silence it
fathom terrace
like it made no sound at all
if the price isnt too heavy, id love to include those in my search then
sonic cape
but you mentioned something about the dimensions ?
like being flat ?
or you mean flat sound
fathom terrace
i just know that with the right technique you can type almost silently with flat keyboards, if you just press them slow and gently
dunno how easy it is with the added distance and literal MECHANICAL structure
the membrane itself makes no sound after all
boreal rivet
thats just because you aren't impressing enough force onto the switch for the stabiliser mechanism to rattle
fathom terrace
like being flat ?
i meant flat keys bc shorter travel distance makes it easier to type quietly imo
fathom terrace
the membrane itself makes no sound after all
plus this
unless im greatly overexaggerating things its only logical that membrane is quieter
especially including the average
boreal rivet
because rubberdomes act as a dampener when bottoming out
fathom terrace
because rubberdomes act as a dampener when bottoming out
yeah thats what i mean
boreal rivet
it also contributes to the mushy feel regular full height rubberdomes have
laptop switches don't really have that because the rubber dome is so thin
fathom terrace
i dont want a keyboard that tries to juggle everything, i just want a good flat quiet keyboard thats wireless and has a decent layout
boreal rivet
i suppose logitech has something for you then lol
fathom terrace
and id prefer to get the most out of my buy, both in terms of longterm value and price
fathom terrace
this one is the k380 i talked about. flat, presumeably quiet and has a 65% layou...
so i should go with this
unkempt dome
you can have full height lubed mechanical silent switches that are quieter than flat rubber dome over membrane keyboard ... you just have to build it accordingly
fathom terrace
i dont have the know how and i doubt it will ever be as quiet as, at least not with some considerable price uptick
boreal rivet
its the only accessible keyboard that appreciates in value
fathom terrace
ive heard similar things about keychron
but they are full mechanicals, and their delay is ass for gaming
boreal rivet
keychron doesn't appreciate lol
fathom terrace
not that delay is that relevant in this case
unkempt dome
and the slim membrane board will be better for gaming ?
boreal rivet
are you buying one for portable use?
fathom terrace
my current keyboard thats attached to my lenovo yoga makes it near impossible to switch between typing and using my pen on the screen cause of the weird angle. so i planning to get a seperate one. thats my primary use.
boreal rivet
once you get used to it atleast
fathom terrace
im planning to check local offers and market place for used deals, so its always good to have multiple models in mind in case the recommended one isnt sold
boreal rivet
and remember its pretty much indestructible
fathom terrace
or a good reduced deal on amazon or sth
fathom terrace
id have to look into reviews of it first. that is if there are any
fathom terrace
no reviews are worse than bad ones since bad ones often outline stuff you can deal with. i even saw some amazon 1stars bc they bought the wrong keyboard layout XD
fathom terrace
youtube reviewers are mostly terrible
yeah still on the fence for those. they tend to give good recommendations from my experience, but for products that you pay a hefty premium for
they tend to "only be 400€" and "beginner friendly"
boreal rivet
yeah still on the fence for those. they tend to give good recommendations from m...
its easy to look knowledgeable to a normal consumer is all I'll say
fathom terrace
https://www.hhkeyboard.com/uk/products/hybrid
wtf what did they do to my beloved Ctrl
those bastards
fathom terrace
its easy to look knowledgeable to a normal consumer is all I'll say
yeah every keyboard tends to be "the best for the price"
boreal rivet
the control is usually on the diamond key on the left
that layout shown is for people who prefer the old unix (i think) layout of control there
fathom terrace
the control is usually on the diamond key on the left
ah, i was almost worried that they fucked it up
the fn key is a bit odd for me
fathom terrace
i probably also need a bindable key as well to assign the linux command function for umlauts and other symbols
i usually used the right control for that
dunno if im willing to experiment like that
plus it still doesnt look like itd be that quiet
boreal rivet
then how about this https://hhkb.io/models/HHKB_Professional_JP/
the one you're looking at is a type s
factory silenced
fathom terrace
what about the hhkb lite ones
fathom terrace
i think its out of my price range, since i dont have a big reason to spend more than 100
only if theres a really good reason
boreal rivet
logitech will probably have something for you then
idk being able to last a decade while appreciating is pretty good a reason for me personally
sage wren
After owning several keyboards, the best sounding/feeling keyboard has to be the new asus rog scope 2 96%
Ordered a set of these keycaps (XDA) hoping theyll improve the feel and look even more
boreal rivet
its a 75%
sage wren
that cant be a 96% can it
its not, its just the keycaps design (they come with the extras for a full size)
boreal rivet
98% layout u mean ?
its 96% dumbass
fathom terrace
Wtf is a 96% layout
no clue, i dont have the chart in front of me
sage wren
ye its very nice to be fair, having a numpad on a small ish keyboard is very useful
sage wren
its hard finding keycaps cuz of that enter key 
took me three hours to find a decent set of keycaps..
sage wren
Ordered a set of these keycaps (XDA) hoping theyll improve the feel and look ev...
THANKFULLY.. this one comes with that enter key as an extra..
chrome raft
took me three hours to find a decent set of keycaps..
Onced I bought a sa grab bags
I found like 17 iso enters
sage wren
why no sharing?
sage wren
oof
chrome raft
sage wren
wtf is that murder o_o
chrome raft
As i said, grab bags
Mine was idk the lowest end possible bag
U can see some solid sets
amber tartan
theremin reviewed the new mx2as
boreal rivet
its been up for a while
boreal rivet
I should get some browns while the molds are still fresh
boreal rivet
it won't be quiet
fathom terrace
im saying it here again for some feedback
fathom terrace
it won't be quiet
its supposed to be
its really fucking hard to compare quietness tbh
i dont want a shit keyboard or shit price just for it to be quiet
but i dont want to buy a good keyboard thats really loud just bc "good value"
boreal rivet
its supposed to be
and I'm saying it won't be
fathom terrace
i was about to look them up rn you bastard
fathom terrace
im looking for a keyboard i can pair up with my 2-3 devices for 3-5 years. more would be nice but not neccesary
im not planning to marry my keyboard so i dont plan on spending 300 or more on a topre or whatever
chrome raft
im looking for a keyboard i can pair up with my 2-3 devices for 3-5 years. more ...
U interested in customs or prebuilts ?
fathom terrace
U interested in customs or prebuilts ?
i cant really afford to no
maybe once im done studying
i am looking for a keyboard that doesnt bother anyone in the presentation hall of my uni
and one that doesnt have issues with stuck keys like my current one
chrome raft
i cant really afford to no
Sub and under 300 get u some great deals
Will get ur foot on this rabbit hole
fathom terrace
my built in keyboard is good enough tho, and id never buy a keyboard rn if it wasnt for the fact that my touch laptop is hard to draw on while also using the keyboard. so im looking for something that can sit on my lap, or at least in a better position
sub what
if all recommendations fail to convince me ill just get this one and be done with it
fathom terrace
maybe yeah
sage wren
@fathom terrace Look at the asus rog scope 2 (snow switches)
this is the quitest keyboard ive had and the best feeling one
look at youtube etc for reviews, the sound profile is thonk 
fathom terrace
i went back to the mx keys mini. this time i bought it for sure
id love to get into mechanical keyboards in the future, but i feel like if i buy one that is both really quiet and is supposed to satisfy my every needs ill end up with a product that either burns a hole in my budget or wont fully satisfy either side
worst case i can always save up and regret my decisions later ;P
still thx @boreal rivet @chrome raft @amber tartan @sage wren for all the help and recommendations
maybe in a few years ill get a really comfy keyboard with some kick ass caps
sage wren
fathom terrace
til then id still love to see your guys setups
its always fun to see ppl get creative
fathom terrace
til then id still love to see your guys setups
just dont use functionally keycaps that you constantly fear of smudging
like, ive seen some that have no info on them, or are shit like literal snow globes that stick out of the keyboard like a sore thumb
fathom terrace
if u wanna go silent, maybe silent switches
yeah maybe. but to have something thats both a good mechanical as well as silent enough i think id either have to spend a lot of money or time. id rather have a keyboard in the future that got great sound, and only is "office-quiet" at best
chrome raft
id love to get into mechanical keyboards in the future, but i feel like if i buy...
Yeah bud, we are looking forward to you spendong thousands in a piece of rectangle metal with bird or smth in the front
fathom terrace
not the uni presentation quiet that i need
sage wren
i mean u dont have to spend crazy c:
fathom terrace
Yeah bud, we are looking forward to you spendong thousands in a piece of rectang...
yes yes, thats what becoming rich is for
bragging rights
fathom terrace
i mean u dont have to spend crazy c:
i know but i gotta spend something considering how subjective and biased everything is. both the opinions as well as the perception. one person calls something premium the other says it feels like cheap plastic
and then each side calls the other bs
id have to either spend time or money to truly know who is in the right, if anyone
sage wren
i mean i bought the scope 2. and just gonna change out the keycaps.
to me its the best keyboard ive owned. and ive spent ALOT on different keyboards 😢
seems that manufacturers are actually starting to sell good DIY (quality) keyboards
fathom terrace
Even thu i broke the last thing i would sell is my keeb
funny thing, every time i look at keyboard enthusiasts on youtube, when they review its like "its a good keyboard to have in my wardrobe full of 1k keyboard builds i spent 5 hours each on. so if i ever feel like typing on it ill take it out and use it for a week"
ofc hyperbolic but you get the point
here i am worrying about overspending on a single fkn membrane keyboard for uni
fathom terrace
seems that manufacturers are actually starting to sell good DIY (quality) keyboa...
im new to the sphere, but ive already head the phrase of "x finally makes good and affordable DIY keyboards" at least 5 times on different brands
sage wren
I can only speak of Asus
fathom terrace
and theres a big difference between "good for the price" and "actually good", especcially in relation to the budget of the buyer
sage wren
their azoth and scope, are a major step in the right direction
azoth however is very high end on the price scale however
fathom terrace
asus prolly wont have shipping issues at least
sage wren
Probably not 😄
fathom terrace
i literally am on an asus laptop rn, they are pretty decent. if their keyboards are good its not bad to vote with your wallet a bit
make them consider feeding the market
sage wren
true
give it a year or two
i feel like with time especially asus will mature even more
fathom terrace
although i still am constantly unsure what company tries to overprice shit bc they can and what company has good prices
unless its alienware or razor, ive always been told they overprice stuff
arctic shuttle
I love keyboard
arctic shuttle
wtf what did they do to my beloved Ctrl
That's hhkb it's the layour
fathom terrace
That's hhkb it's the layour
i know i was partially sarcastic
arctic shuttle
We love hhkb
fathom terrace
it might be good but rn i need something reliable that i can use under the table
could be fun to try if i have more disposable income, and time to get a general keyboard not one this hyperspecifically tailored to my needs
arctic shuttle
Get a Frog TKL
fathom terrace
is it a trademarked layout?
fathom terrace
Get a Frog TKL
too late, got the mx mini already
arctic shuttle
is it a trademarked layout?
Nah it's just their layout
arctic shuttle
too late, got the mx mini already
fathom terrace
Nah it's just their layout
so technically if it takes off there could be multiple manufacturers making it
fathom terrace
https://tenor.com/view/elmo-falls-oh-brother-gif-12712639
not gonna be that bad
arctic shuttle
so technically if it takes off there could be multiple manufacturers making it
There are multiple manufacturers making them
Hhkb layout atleast
fathom terrace
https://tenor.com/view/elmo-falls-oh-brother-gif-12712639
its a traditional flat mechanical. my expectations arent high for that very reason, but i expect some base quality.
fathom terrace
Hhkb layout atleast
what do you think of colemak/dvorak
maybe once i have a keyboard with interchangeable buttons i could try it
but as of now i think custom letter positions are somewhat overrated
arctic shuttle
what do you think of colemak/dvorak
I can't do it, I can only do qwerty
fathom terrace
especcially considering the learning curve for something that is meant to be intuitive
arctic shuttle
I learned Dvorak and thought it was dumb
fathom terrace
neo2 apparently is also made for german or sth
tried it a bit
for android layout
cant say it made things worse
but sure as hell not a noticeable improvement either
arctic shuttle
You can get pretty quick with it, but it still feels unnatural to me atleast
fathom terrace
yeah i guess so
tbf my right hand never uses the thumb nor the small finger, so i could be more efficient anyways
custom layout or not
arctic shuttle
I do like a nice Alice though
amber tartan
type k best
main narwhal
What's that Angry Maio or whatever Alice that looks like a meme
The thing that looks like airplane wings?
arctic shuttle
The thing that looks like airplane wings?
The grill of a corvette
main narwhal
Lawl
Thr afa
The afa
Am afa*
That plouffe reviewed?
I think he did, I didn't watch it though lol
robust ridge
someone help my pick a purple matching deskmat for this
robust ridge
https://kineticlabs.com/desk-mats/kinetic/pixel-comet
much appreciated
chrome raft
someone help my pick a purple matching deskmat for this
Is that a m1w
chrome raft
They lookthe same thu
robust ridge
indeed
silk pumice
My first nice keyboard.
arctic shuttle
Ah, topo keycaps
placid lantern
chrome raft
My first nice keyboard.
What board is that
ionic briar
looks like a gmmk pro alright
sonic cape
My first nice keyboard.
higround keycaps ?
silk pumice
What board is that
Its gmmk pro and i put in durok pom piano switches.
silk pumice
higround keycaps ?
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0C2YLGY79?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 Dagaladoo XVX caps here is the link.
low dirge
Its gmmk pro and i put in durok pom piano switches.
Those switches are niceeee
arctic shuttle
Present it
My pro jp comes September 18th
And I need to cope with the layout
Tiny spacebar
Silicone? Or rubber
No kinetic sand? What a shame
Hey, I know that guy
He's kind of a prick
That's what I'm saying, he's a scammer too
Ya his real name is ||Josiah||
SAME
Prolly gonna just get MX sliders tho
I'ma try the deskeys stuff
See how it goes
Each slider is $1.05 a piece
Thats what I plan on doing
Maybe some Olivetti
AHHHH MT3 THOCK THO
Who makes some solid topre keycaps
I want those
When you put in a China order let me know I'll throw down for some keycaps
That's fine, I get that stock topre experience until then
And that was what, july
What's the probability I hate JIS,
Can't be worse than that R2
I really wanna try one of those coolermaster topre boards
Ya
Was gonna say supposedly best stock sliders out of the other big 2
You gonna keep waiting too
Allegedly
sly crane
nice
boreal rivet
Beta test these for me thanks
Also arent these nissho hipro
Or did kbdfans actually make a hipro set with nissho colors
How did you find a set for so cheap lol
zinc wave
Just curious, do you guys prefer wired or wireless?
obtuse dome
why does my up key sound diferent from any other one
sonic cape
amber tartan
china no1
arctic shuttle
We love China
pseudo owl
Real
languid shoal
My first mechanical keyboard, with silent red switches 😁 I love it
coral ferry
Is Dvorak's music any good. I hear people like his keyboards
amber tartan
Lol.
coral ferry
cool. any performers you think are good? I'm looking for a SACD to test my new UBD player
unborn forum
incredibly upset to learn that my keycap set has yellow and orange keycaps and that they're intermingled. been using it for 9 months and only noticed when I ordered some orange keycaps because it's my favorite color. They showed up and were the same color.
Always thought it was weird that the keycap set came with 2 rows of yellow lol....
I can see it much better in the picture, in real life I can't tell at all...
coral ferry
I have bad news...you might be color blind
unborn forum
yeah, it rarely comes up (or I guess I only notice it rarely). Only other time it's negatively impacted me that I can remember was doing job evaluations
verbal zinc
the good thing is there are 5 keys per row and you can just move them to the right place using the photos!
unborn forum
which would make more sense with the colors as you guys see it? red blue orange yellow or red blue yellow orange?
verbal zinc
but if you're a starfield fan -- Blue-Yellow-Orange-Red
too many fan configs, trying to find the offiical color band lol
I think its this
so blue yellow orange red
arctic shuttle
which would make more sense with the colors as you guys see it? `red blue orange...
Red, Orange, Yellow, Blue
verbal zinc
So my only gripe with my keyboard (Halo96) - The feet don't "lock" into place and if I slide it forward a tiny bit, the feet close.
I wonder if a company exists that makes keyboard feet replacements that can lock into place and have a clip to press in to move them.
sonic cape
So my only gripe with my keyboard (Halo96) - The feet don't "lock" into place an...
yeah
that happens with all keyboards tho
verbal zinc
yeh
sonic cape
flip out feet will close if you move them forward
verbal zinc
at least they dont fall off like my old board haha
sonic cape
im glad
verbal zinc
the 2.4ghz dongle goes far too, can game from my livingroom with my wireless mouse on the tv over moonlight without plugging it into my shield
less input lag this way
sonic cape
how´s the sound ?
verbal zinc
i don't know how to put it into words
i love it aha
we tried all the switches they gave in the box and this is still our favorite
sonic cape
yeah mine is like marbly
verbal zinc
i like that they give samples
sonic cape
yeah
have you looked
which switch you have in your spacebar ?
I had a night breeze
sonic cape
check
sonic cape
from the sides
verbal zinc
gonna see if the puller goes that wide
verbal zinc
lol
sonic cape
is it a blue one ?
verbal zinc
verbal zinc
I like it either way
sonic cape
its intentional
the spacebar sounds worse with a racoon
something id love to have is those silicon pads
like to be able to buy them separately
verbal zinc
i can technically put any of the sample switches in the space bar if i wanted right
sonic cape
yep
verbal zinc
aha
sonic cape
with that switch
verbal zinc
yeah i'm pretty good with it
sonic cape
racoon is a bit high pitch for a spacebar
verbal zinc
im sad i can't use aurora to control the keyboard lights on nuphy products
small sacrifice to make
verbal zinc
no razer chroma lights for me
anyway i think maybe 1 or 2 games use it that i play
so wtv haha
sonic cape
i honestly love the special ghostbar sounds
yeah a well lubed durock stab with a nice spacebar sounds great
verbal zinc
i love how no matter which part of the spacebar i hit it's the same
sonic cape
but a ghostbar has something special