Sudden loss of mental information.
#peripherals
amber tartan
high axle
失败了我们
chrome raft
why is the keyboard pcb 30$ on its own😭
high axle
pcb be like that
high axle
those are annoying bc only a specific kind of keycap fits
chrome raft
not uncanny at all
I'mma get this [dierya] keyboard, it's mechanical and I got a coupon to get it 10$ off
amber tartan
more like diarrhea
heavy night
How do i know it wont ship?
chrome raft
more like diarrhea
fr
chrome raft
blue switches 😭
I'll get the brown one
tidal oracle
I want to buy the Corsair k70 pro Mini in white. I want other switches for it, i like the cherry mx red and the hyperx aqua switches, switches shouldnt be too loud, can someone help me please?
idle cave
Looking to build my own keyboard for say 200 dollars? Would want a TKL keyboard that feels good to type on (I do a lot of programming) and feels nice to play games on. Don't really care that much about the sound, if it sounds good then it's a bonus, otherwise I'll just be having noise cancelling headphones on. Any recommendations? I don't know much about keyboards at all
boreal rivet
you should buy a realforce instead
amber tartan
Looking to build my own keyboard for say 200 dollars? Would want a TKL keyboard ...
tiger80 lite or freetkl
idle cave
tiger80 lite or freetkl
tiger80 lite is gone freebird tkl is on preorders
idle cave
you should buy a realforce instead
what one specificalluy?
autumn agate
Looking to build my own keyboard for say 200 dollars? Would want a TKL keyboard ...
Monsgeek m3
Or maybe like a keychron v3 if you want more room for keycaps you like and some switches
autumn agate
thock.
main narwhal
How do i know it wont ship?
aliexpress has ok buyer protection
just buy from a vendor with a lot of reviews and you should be ok
main narwhal
Looking to build my own keyboard for say 200 dollars? Would want a TKL keyboard ...
cycle7 is the new hotness if you don't need the function row
you get a LOT for your dollar
keychron q3 kit is around 150
idle cave
cycle7 is the new hotness if you don't need the function row
function row is unfortunately need ed
main narwhal
keychron v series is prty cheap
divinikey carries both V and Q series tkl barebone kits, and they ship out the west coast
if you're shipping in the US
void geyser
Keycaps finally arrived
main narwhal
is that the skullcandy logo lol
main narwhal
i hate their trays
void geyser
currently looking at switches right now
main narwhal
annoying to get the caps out
void geyser
some of the key caps feels loose ngl
like the 5 pops out when you tap it
I want to get some switches though, should I go linear or tactile
main narwhal
personal preference
void geyser
I have both
oetemu browns
blues
ktt kang whites
gateron reds
oetemu yellows
jailhouse blues
idk which one to get tbh
ktt kang white by far feels the best for me
also what should I do about the body ping
it doesn't really sound or feel nice ngl
idle cave
keychron v series is prty cheap
what about something like the Keychron V8 TKL
main narwhal
you can get it on amazon and return if it's not what you want
i don't know if they sell it as a kit
oh they do
idle cave
how do something like gateron reds compare with cherry mx reds?
main narwhal
both linear
same actuation force
it'll work fine
once you get into fancy/boutique switches, it'll eat too much into your budget
idle cave
i just wanna spend a bit of money once and get it working once and for all
then forget about it and enjoy new keyboard in glory
main narwhal
:3
chrome raft
125$ pcb🤑
high axle
gotta make sure the case fits the pcb too
chrome raft
I found this hot swappable keyboard(I don't believe that claim) for only 27$
it looks good
mechanical feeling
I think it's actually hot swappable now. why would they make a cluster of their keyboard and hot swappable switches if the keyboard wasn't hot swappable
autumn agate
I found this hot swappable keyboard(I don't believe that claim) for only 27$
The tester 68 is hotswap for like 20 dollars (don’t get it it’s like doodoo and will break)
chrome raft
so why did you tell me about it
high axle
The tester 68 is hotswap for like 20 dollars (don’t get it it’s like doodoo and ...
i have one and it didnt break 🤡
i mean sometimes it spams input on one key but like its not all the time
might be my own laptops problem (built in keeb also has same issue iirc)
autumn agate
man that thing runs on batteries
high axle
so?
chrome raft
wired>>>>🗿🗿🗿
high axle
the zoom series are also able to run on batteries and they sell for like a hundred
💀
but do what you want lol
chrome raft
usb c wired hot swappable mechanical keyboard budget is 0-30 Canadian dollars
nimble heath
anyone knwo a source for black DS win/lin modifier caps?
chrome raft
I found this keyboard for 27$ used but it's not availible
this guy is selling his keyboard for only 5$🤑
high axle
functions perfectly missing a single keycap 😭
chrome raft
no
high axle
ah
i mean
if it works well then it's a deal i suppose
could just clean it up and slap new caps on
chrome raft
idfk where to find a hotswappable keyboard under 30$ cad
chrome raft
could just clean it up and slap new caps on
yes
I need to get 5$ first🤑
I have .7$
high axle
oof
chrome raft
70 cents cad
chrome raft
I sent a cv they didn't respond
high axle
oof
idk maybe ask someone for 5 bucks? it's not that much
i sent my resume to coco bbt and they didn't respond either 💀
chrome raft
idk maybe ask someone for 5 bucks? it's not that much
😹
I'l sell some bs on marketplace
I put up a 50$ 10 year old pc on marketplace
waiting for buyers
it's already got 60 views
high axle
lolol good luck
high axle
yeah it's not bad either but it's 7x the price of the fb listing lmao
chrome raft
blue switches are too damn loud
near terrace
redragon k530 pro
lubbed akko radiant reds
foam mod
custom space and esc keycaps (too broke for full set)
rate it from 1-10
total: about 110$ (540 brl)
chrome raft
35$ black hot swappable keyboard
void geyser
Anyone tried black gaterons?
amber tartan
you cant put normal switches in there which severely limits your option to like 3 switches
chrome raft
eh it's fine
amber tartan
you could also just get the gk61s which is mx hotswap
chrome raft
yup, and for the same price
I'll get the mechanical one thanks
damn I need to get money before the reduction is removed
damn the blue mechanical keyboard is just cheap by default, really nobody wants blue switches☠️
if the reduction is gone on the silent switches before I get money I'll have to get the blue ones
shell locust
guys what you know abouy Xtrfy K4 TKL Retro
pls someone tell me
muted karma
tell me that again when you put a cherry mx switch in that board
muted karma
says cherry, has a cross mount stem in some versions, so must be MX compatible
boreal rivet
Idk looks like a drop in replacement to me
boreal rivet
Nice
muted karma
would have to wait on the board I wanna put them in still 💀
boreal rivet
Finally bought one of my grails from 2017
muted karma
which one
boreal rivet
Eve moon
boreal rivet
What’s that
boreal rivet
Ah nice
boreal rivet
One of the better looking things to come out in years tbh
boreal rivet
The f1
boreal rivet
I prefer that over most of the stuff that’s come out these few years
muted karma
as simple as it gets for TKLs with korean tops
also got a couple other very nice TKLs
but I don't think anything can ever beat the F1-8X for me
it's just so fucking good
maybe if I ever get to try a really good jane v2 or something
the ME isn't bad but also not it
waiting on a steel back for that one
boreal rivet
I wish it wasn’t so overhyped
boreal rivet
At this point it’s just a rare board that’s outdated af
muted karma
safa for example
is super good
eh
would not say outdated
not like boards have really tried much new in the last 10 years
boreal rivet
I couldn’t care less about sound but designers have come up with a lot of shit to add on the boards nowadays
muted karma
like?
yea sure you have some fancier looking designs
but besides a USB port on the PCB nothing has changed much since the 360c
slight improvements to how we design a top mount
gasket foam mounts
boreal rivet
Foam, that leaf spring thing, flex cuts, seamless designs, gasket mount
muted karma
which mainly just hide the problems in bad designs
boreal rivet
Yeah I agree
muted karma
foam was a thing with even the dk saver, most can't do leaf springs right
flex cuts typically just suck
and seamless designs are kinda overrated imo
boreal rivet
Wow that’s the most based thing I’ve heard in a while
muted karma
jane seam for example is super well executed
boreal rivet
Yep
muted karma
flex cuts typically just suck
like the chinese FINALLY got that PCB flex cuts are a bad idea
since the foam you need to add to mask the shitty sounds just removes more flex then the negligeble amount you gain with the cuts
this is like the one reason why I would personally not use a 360c nowadays
have a fixed cable on a JER80 and can say that I hate it
boreal rivet
this is like the one reason why I would personally not use a 360c nowadays
I think it’s fine personally
boreal rivet
I’ve had a stock cable on my rf for the last like 4 years and it’s never been a problem
muted karma
ah
yea I really do not like it
since I need long cables to begin with
- I hate crawling under my desk
and swap boards a lot
boreal rivet
Yeah fair enough
The rf was the only board I had until this year and it was just plugged into my monitor
void geyser
unpopular opinion but typeracer is actually a pretty bad test lmfao
muted karma
I think most people agree that monkeytype is better?
shell locust
kailh red switch are good?
muted karma
for real world performance you can't really test well
I type much faster when it is somethign I intend to write instead of copy
void geyser
I type much faster when it is somethign I intend to write instead of copy
same
I get about 100wpm when I'm writing my own shit
rather than abotu 50 to 60 when copying
amber tartan
great for copying notes
amber tartan
cant really do that if youre in a lecture
void geyser
it's different then
because during lecture you don't really need to write word for word
muted karma
if professors weren't shitheads you would just get the stuff they have anyways
aka the powerpoint they all use
they managed to do that during covid
muted karma
to begin with US layout is ANSI
and AZERTY is ISO
no matter if it is french or belgian AZERTY
- AZERTY caps are hard to get to begin with
jagged frost
anybody got a good full size keyboard ?
winged dagger
anybody got a good full size keyboard ?
used to
jagged frost
I searched for one, I bought myself a razer now
bitter oar
anybody got a good full size keyboard ?
budget?
jagged frost
I already bought one for 120
bitter oar
I already bought one for 120
eh, razer? restore the order
jagged frost
Huh ?
bitter oar
for such money you can get much better keyboard
jagged frost
for such money you can get much better keyboard
I also live in Germany, things are more expensive here
bitter oar
If I don't like it I can bring it back within few weeks
just get a keychron one for simplicity
either V series or better Q series
jagged frost
I never saw one before in Germany
bitter oar
I also live in Germany, things are more expensive here
still, you can get similiar keyboards that are offbrand for half the price vs razer
jagged frost
Thanks for the advice but I think I'm happy with it, 🗿
bitter oar
Thanks for the advice but I think I'm happy with it, 🗿
k, does that razer keyboard even have pbt keycaps?
jagged frost
Pbt ?
bitter oar
$120 and not even PBT keycaps
bitter oar
I don't know what pbt keykaps are
they usually don’t get the shiny surface after being exposed from hours of sweaty gaming
jagged frost
Ah, it got few keycaps for switching
The guy in the shop gave it to me
Should be fine I'm not a sweater
bitter oar
The guy in the shop gave it to me
are they pbt and full set?
bitter oar
I don't know I'm a noon in that technic thing
just give me picture of the packpage
bitter oar
U good with German?
i meant the packpage of the keycaps
bitter oar
U good with German?
oh god the green switches
jagged frost
I live it
bitter oar
pls buy a proper keyboard
bitter oar
keychron Q series is good for starters
jagged frost
The numpad version is 180 bro
bitter oar
The numpad version is 180 bro
keychron V1
jagged frost
Does it have a numpad ?
jagged frost
keychron V1
'
bitter oar
Does it have a numpad ?
keychron V5
ancient wyvern
thinking of getting the deathstalker v2 pro has anyone used it before? can barely find any long term reviews on it
nimble heath
huh i was told supposedly you could export from keyboard-layout-editor.com to get a kicad project but i'm not seeing any otpion for that.
bitter oar
glorious really sucks at lubing keyboard stabs ngl
main narwhal
huh i was told supposedly you could export from keyboard-layout-editor.com to ge...
For a plate?
main narwhal
huh i was told supposedly you could export from keyboard-layout-editor.com to ge...
sonic cape
halo75 with green gradient keycaps for a friend of mine
tbh thought the gradient will be stronger
lyric willow
Saw this keyboard in an listing for a wrist-rest and i think it looks super dope, can someone identify it or link a similar one?
nimble heath
For a plate?
kicad is a pcb program. so no not the plate.
waxen bane
Yo anyone wanna rate this build I made a couple years ago?
Keyboard specs
Glorious GMMK TKL barebones with led
Drop TLK skylight series keycaps
Durrock Dolphins 62 g switches
Thick films
TKL foam mod
Krytox 295G0 lube.
amber tartan
ill bet that its a keyboard
muted karma
$120 and not even PBT keycaps
PBT doubleshots are not a thing really
in 99% of cases it is a lie
also what is wrong with ABS
sonic cape
Saw this keyboard in an listing for a wrist-rest and i think it looks super dope...
looks like iqunix og80
very similiar
check out Iqunix
lyric willow
looks like iqunix og80
Thanks mate, that looks sort of right
gloomy charm
guys give a good keyboard
chrome raft
I'm guessing it's good from youtube reviews
it's a hot swappable wired mechanical keyboard. with the cheapest options it's only 25$ cad without tax
chrome raft
cheapest good looking hot swappable keyboard on amazon I could find
bitter oar
also what is wrong with ABS
niche sound, from grease it gets shiny up to even sticky, PBT feels better
autumn agate
There is nothing wrong with abs, it’s all preference
Some people may prefer the higher pitched sound of abs and the texture it may have
flat gulch
is motospeed a real brand?
chrome raft
misty crypt
my GMMK pro keeps chattering, particularly on the D key and space bar 
nimble heath
this is what i'm thinking for my module based wire/less keyboard. planning to have pogo pins connecting the modules when you connect them, but if you want to use them wirelessly they will use a BLE mesh to talk together so you could in theory have a split tkl with numpad if you want for instance.
nimble heath
will probably add a programmable jog dial to the green module. seems useful.
shy moth
Hi, I'm looking for the cheapest/best keyboard? Any suggestions for something that has swappable switches, configurable with software specifically polling rate if possible, high build quality, back feet to raise it.
muted karma
Some people may prefer the higher pitched sound of abs and the texture it may ha...
Texture is entirely dependant on tooling essentially
elder matrix
Is there anyone here who can validate a PCB design it's my first attempt at making one im a hobbyist in hardware programming and Software Developer by trade so i can do the firmware stuff and using Arduino Duo as the controller for it, but i don't know enough about the hardware to validate my PCB prototype, I'm designing a Full size Keyboard PCB and im Designing it in EasyEDA if someone will to help me validate the design i can send the Zip for the project my plan is to open source this once i have prototyped it
chrome raft
Hi, I'm looking for the cheapest/best keyboard? Any suggestions for something th...
https://a.co/d/gtBkxZ2 cheapest hot swappable but good looking keyboard on amazon
chrome raft
cheapest good looking hot swappable keyboard on amazon I could find
I have the rk 61 which is similar but for 25usd you will not get anything better
chrome raft
Texture is entirely dependant on tooling essentially
Won’t an abs texture break down quicklier than a pbt one anyways making it essentially a smooth shiny keycap long term?
trail zinc
Looking to build a keyboard under 250 cad. Currently have a v3 with knob for 105 and some nice keycaps for 53 so 158 in total. Would like to try to stay under 200. If 250 is my max. So that leaves me 42 for switches. Will lube later Down the line depending on the budget left over
autumn agate
Won’t an abs texture break down quicklier than a pbt one anyways making it essen...
thats true
pbt is denser than abs to it wont wear as quickly also leading to deeper sound profile
chrome raft
So ig if you like shiny slippery higher pitched keycaps (which there is nothing wrong with) abs is for you also ig your preference saved you money lol
autumn agate
the rate at which abs shines depends a lot of the person
everyones skin is different so some may shine quick some may barely shine
ive been using my gmk daily for over half a year and theres no shine
chrome raft
Interesting
autumn agate
I saw some guy shine his gmk in like 2 weeks
chrome raft
smash or pass?
amber tartan
my left ear liked that
chrome raft
ok
chrome raft
my left ear liked that
it's a shitty 5$ dollar store membrane keyboard🥶🗣️💯
amber tartan
ok
autumn agate
Let’s gooooo
amber tartan
why did you get a new keyboard then
nimble heath
Is there anyone here who can validate a PCB design it's my first attempt at maki...
what prompted you to go duo instead of rp2040?
amber tartan
didnt you get a gk61s
amber tartan
so youre looking to get one anyway
chrome raft
yes
amber tartan
you should just use the membrane its so good
chrome raft
the one I have is membrane🤢
autumn agate
Thocky
amber tartan
peak performante
autumn agate
We gotta get that 15% Rgb performance on the keyboard too ya know
chrome raft
every keyboard gotta have rgb doesn't it🤦♂️doesn't look good at all
chrome raft
every keyboard gotta have rgb doesn't it🤦♂️doesn't look good at all
sorry for the L take I forgot rgb added fps
nimble heath
*is designing her keyboard to be RGB and actually just started designing a VU metere mode for it 😛 *
soft prairie
smash or pass?
pass, sounds mushy. no distinctive clacks of the keycap bottoming out
placid lantern
Here’s another board for the soul
i think i have these exact keycaps
chrome raft
pass, sounds mushy. no distinctive clacks of the keycap bottoming out
jealous
muted karma
Won’t an abs texture break down quicklier than a pbt one anyways making it essen...
PBT will also turn smooth long term
Esp cheap doubleshot "PBT"
chrome raft
any good wireless barebone available under 40 usd (4000 taka, country is Bangladesh)
currently using the k552 🥲
chrome raft
125 usd for a pcb
late zinc
that's clearly more than just a pcb
and welcome to the world of low volume products
note: price in USD is only $89
other note: it's a whole keyboard minus the keys and keycaps.
marsh ice
ppl hate when i want to order a wooting keyboard
boreal rivet
so true
marsh ice
its the fastest tho
sonic cape
its the fastest tho
ive been going to my country highest esports competitions (csgo,LoL and RL) for many years and always looked at the keebs the pro's were using, most of the really hardcore pro's were using basic razer keyboards and even now moved up to 60% with normal specs
a wooting isn't going to give you an edge
I do like the fact it's perhaps the fastest but don't say people hate it, you're just basing the purchase on marketing and yt reviews
high axle
I do like the fact it's perhaps the fastest but don't say people hate it, you're...
b b but thé wooting uwu !!!
sonic cape
no i mean it's a great board
absolutely it is
but im sure a pro with a rk61 will slap the shit out of you
elder matrix
what prompted you to go duo instead of rp2040?
shier scale of the IO lines, 😄 as ease of programming to start with I'm familiar with Arduino programming built some RGB strip controllers before with Arduino, I'm also building it for 100% key press coverage, in theory you should be able to press every key on the keyboard at once coz it's a matrix/grid setup, send power down a line and then read all he across lines in if any go high i have my Key possition 😄
elder matrix
I just got my artisan Hobbit hole for my homemade Sofle v3 keyboard!!
a little peice of the shire
shut plume
☺️ yea
wraith iris
does anyone know if the Wooting 60HE is still one of the best keyboards out rn?
shut plume
what does best even mean
boreal rivet
does anyone know if the Wooting 60HE is still one of the best keyboards out rn?
Objective speed yes
shut plume
do you mean speed as in like,, latency?
boreal rivet
Yes
shut plume
the site mostly only mentions scan frequency, and even then only to 1ms... im pretty sure there are faster keyboards out there
and thats not even the only thing that can affect latency
boreal rivet
Okay find one
shut plume
keyboards with more than 1k scan rate? ok
there you go, someone in the qmk discord got a scan rate of over 1.7 million hertz
the analog nature of the wooting is interesting, and not needing a debounce filter means the latency can be even better, but thats not mentioned anywhere on their site
chrome raft
PBT will also turn smooth long term
I mean it shines later than abs
shut plume
lmao
lol
my hand-soldered thing has a scan rate of over 2k and I wasn't even trying
late zinc
is that a jack as a connector for a keyboard?
shut plume
its a split keyboard so the other half connects via a trrs cable
late zinc
interesting
shut plume
like this
late zinc
looks cool
shut plume
thanks 🙂
late zinc
I'd like to get into some keyboard stuff some day, but I like ICUE too much and dislike having so many different peripheral software installed
shut plume
my keyboard doesn't have software, that's why I got it
it's all firmware
all the keymaps and layouts and stuff is programmed directly into the board
but yes icue is nice
autumn agate
I don’t think I could live without my boards having qmk/via
shut plume
I'm planning to build a ploopy mouse next, I want a mouse that doesn't need software
wanna replace my logitech g600 eventually, so I'll get to mess around with all sorts of ploopy-related things to add all the extra buttons I want ^.^
boreal rivet
I suggest avoiding their headphone
shut plume
oh?
I mean, diy headphone in general sounds silly (pun intended), but I wonder why specificslly
boreal rivet
designed badly, tuned badly, sounds like ass in turn and the designer said something along the lines of "I think its good because I put alot of effort into it"
also worth mentioning the dude has no experience in acoustic design
shell locust
irok keyboard are good ?reddit
nimble heath
shier scale of the IO lines, 😄 as ease of programming to start with I'm familia...
it looks like duo and rp2040 have the same number of gpio, but i like the idea of the extra processing power of the rp2040. means i'll be able to do more per keyboard cycle than with the traditional method. also make sure your matrix has a diode array to prevent crosstalk.
crosstalk will give you ghosting which is not fun.
stiff stirrup
what's a good keyboard to replace my cynosa chroma with
elder matrix
it looks like duo and rp2040 have the same number of gpio, but i like the idea o...
i might try that later since this is only a prototype thanks for that i will keep a note i put the image on every key has a diode on its on one of the lanes not sure if they should be on input or output though
nimble heath
i might try that later since this is only a prototype thanks for that i will kee...
i threw you an FR and some DMs since you and me seem to be the only people with an interest in keyboard engineering as apposed to kit building and stock buying.
(not that there is anything wrong with wanting kits or to not have to do any work. i'm not trying to insult the rest of you with this. just that me and martin seem to have a subinterest that isn't shared ubiquitously)
main narwhal
kicad is a pcb program. so no not the plate.
there's a few tools floatinga round
on github
adamws has been working on his tool for at least a few years
keen perch
guys please any recommendation for a good mechanical keyboard for 100$, i first stumbled upon keychron V2, watches a review and i loved it, but after a while i found the akko 3068b and i liked it but now i dont know which one to choose, or is there another keyboard that is better than these?
nimble heath
there's a few tools floatinga round
oh spiffy. kbplacer takes in something from the keyboard layout editor. gonna guess it's probably the json.
main narwhal
yeah
nimble heath
i wonder if the footprints it makes are for hotswap.
timber bay
main narwhal
@nimble heath no you have to adjust it afaik
nimble heath
ah, k so i'm gonna hafta find hotswap footprints.
main narwhal
I guess you don't have to swap it if you plan on hot swapping with mill max sockets
nimble heath
mill max sockets?
nimble heath
precision machined? that sounds pricy. 😛
main narwhal
nimble heath
then again it's not like the pogo pin interface for the modules i have planned is crazy cheap.
that seems like it'd be pretty simple. then i don't have to find a specialized footprint and arrange something special with pcbway.
main narwhal
sometimes you can get them cheaper from group buys
where someone just gets a bunch of people together and make a huge order to get bulk pricing
nimble heath
i'mma hafta figure otu how/where to place rgb leds.
main narwhal
there's a few ways to do it
nimble heath
where someone just gets a bunch of people together and make a huge order to get ...
so basically like drop.com?
nimble heath
i was under the impression that it was like arcade switches where the led was integreated in the switch but that doesn't seem to be the case for keyswitches. nice for replacable switches but problematic for board design as i can't just use a stock footprint that accoutns for the leds.
nimble heath
6 for 50, 104+5 so 3 packs so 18 bucks. yeah that's not really worth waiting for a group buy.
main narwhal
the SK6812 MINI-Es are what a lot of people use
nimble heath
...i just realized this tool is presuming SMD diodes... like that's not bad buy i really need to get that hotair practice kit ordered so i can get some practice in so i don't fry anything...
main narwhal
they have big legs for soldering and more support
i use a solder gun for smd diodes
nimble heath
the SK6812 MINI-Es are what a lot of people use
i was refering to the matrix diodes not the rgbs, sorry.
still having led part to order isn't bad.
main narwhal
tweezers and pre-tin pads is usually good enough for me
pre tin the pads, use tweezers to push the diode over where it needs to go and apply heat
nimble heath
yeah i've just never done non through hole since i usually am wokring on retro. so i'd like to get a practice kit in so i can get good habbits. i've doubly never used my hotair gun before.
from what i understand there's a kind of waving thing you're supposed to do unlike with a soldering pen where you hold in place for the tac time.
nimble heath
looked that part up on digikey and itt took me to the throughhole version. gonna hafta figure out how to find the smd version though since that's what it looks like the tool generates.
main narwhal
are you US based?
nimble heath
yeah
main narwhal
keebio sells all that stuff
he's a split keyboard designer based out of north carolina
nimble heath
keebio? name sounds like they are a keyboard components vender?
thanx for the lead. that'll be hecka handy.
500 diodes...well i guess i'll have spares either to make keyboards for others or for if i do mess up at all. 😛
oh wait 500 is for through hole only.
k so 2 packs of 100 it looks like.
main narwhal
they sell basically everything you need to handwire a board
nimble heath
spiffy
oo nice rotary encoder knob. i'm really tempted to throw one of those on my kb.
main narwhal
it became a thing a few years ago lol
nimble heath
oo he's got the mill-max sockets
dude in 10 minutes you've jumped my project forward days of research. 😛
main narwhal
lol
nimble heath
i can prolly use these 'reset pushbutton switches' for the tkey tact switches.
... leds look painful. he's chargin 50 cents per? at 110 that's 55 bucks...ouch.
main narwhal
i don't like working with those
most designers who used them before swapped over to the mini
because there's no legs, they sit free in most boards until you solder them in
so the solder bridges hold them in place
and they are finnicky about heat and sometimes get damaged during soldering
nimble heath
ah 3 for 12 is better.
main narwhal
yeah
bakingpy swapped over to those as well
he just sells those now coz he still has them from when some of his designs used them
they are way less of a headache to solder
nimble heath
since i'll have extra leds is it dumb to use rgb lock lights?
it's a bit over spec for purpose but like i said there'll be extras. 😛
main narwhal
a lot of boards just indicate which led is underneath what key, since QMK can do that
you define which led is for caps, numlock, etc and let the existing firmware handle the rest
nimble heath
so my board still has that extra space ove rthe numpad. and having information under keyswitches makes it harder when i wanna use fun profiles. like if you have all off with ripples eminating from the pressed key you wouldn't be able to tell what locks you have on.
also i'm not gonna use QMK since i wanna design my own.
round sorrel
I have a noob question: stabilizers go below or above mounting plate?
shut plume
i was under the impression that it was like arcade switches where the led was in...
so the way most keyboards do it is an upside-down soldered SK6812MINI-E led. it has lil wings so it can sit inside a cutout hole and shine through the pcb into the switch. it works pretty well.
nimble heath
so the way most keyboards do it is an upside-down soldered SK6812MINI-E led. it ...
ahh so just add cutouts and pads to the reverse of the pcb your saying. aye?
would be nice if the tool kanji gave me could auto place the proper cutouts and pads. 😛
shut plume
its not that hard to do yourself. i managed to teach myself enough kicad to make my own board, im sure you can too!
ornate cove
I realize this is probably a rather common question, but I'm looking for a budget board that sounds similar to a Zoom 75. Any recommendations? I need it to have the F row, but that is pretty much the only requirement.
amber tartan
keychron v1?
ornate cove
ill check it out
brittle pewter
does anyone know of pcb that have the 1.5u ctrl key and 5.25u spacebar
magic wolf
Any decent?
magic wolf
should have got the drop ctrl
It happened to be on a store shelf and caught my eye
It’s the first “finally not a big gamer brand” keyboard I’ve gotten
amber tartan
did you actually get the drop
magic wolf
The only complaint I have is the enter backspace feel like crap
magic wolf
did you actually get the drop
Nah, the glorious
amber tartan
oh lame
chrome raft
2nd time of asking for a barebone suggestion under 40usd (4500 taka, location is Bangladesh)
What I want:
WIRELESS
5pin hotswap
TKL or 75%
rgb must
gasket mount is optional
knob is also optional
amber tartan
keychron
magic wolf
I mean, the last keyboard I bought was a steelseries Apex pro, so I guess for what I paid? Not bad
wraith iris
can anyone tell me if the wooting 60he or two he better or are they the same
magic wolf
Would it make sense to replace only two switches in a keyboard. Do they sell switches in individual
amber tartan
very rarely
amber tartan
you need to fix the stabilizers, not the switch
magic wolf
Interesting. If the case is they feel too squishy are they over lube? What can I do with the stab
All I want is more resistance ideally
amber tartan
if they seem too soft that means they have no lube
amber tartan
please do not use wd-40
magic wolf
Dielectric, don’t worry
chrome raft
your pfp🤤
magic wolf
The only TikTok I’ve ever seen that got a nose, exhale out of me
chrome raft
ok
magic wolf
Men’s got cake
chrome raft
ong
muted karma
I have a noob question: stabilizers go below or above mounting plate?
depends on the keyboard
on most custom board below
on most other boards above
if you wanna know specifically how your board does it feel free to send in a pic of your board ig?
pretty easy to see if you know what you are looking for
magic wolf
also they usually dont lube them
Ahahahaha oh they lubed em. Maybe not them, but something got lubed
short bolt
need a wireless kb and mouse for work 🤔 Preferably one that connects via same usb dongle
true needle
razer has some feature that lets you do that, not really work work style but i guess you can disable lights lol
half harbor
has anyone here bought the KiiBoom phantom 81 keyboard that got reviewed by shortcircuit a few months ago?
late zinc
razer has some feature that lets you do that, not really work work style but i g...
most decent manufacturers have this feature
true needle
i only knew razer has
shut plume
any bluetooth keyboard will work wirelessly without a dongle
true needle
not all PCs have bluetooth
late zinc
anything modern with wifi has bluetooth
late zinc
anything modern with wifi has bluetooth
if for whatever reason it doesn't, then bluetooth/wifi dongles exist
true needle
unless you get scammed on cheap dongle and you get something like BT version 2 which doesnt support being connected to more than one at a time i believe
chrome raft
This random ahh phone stand i have is perfect for displaying keyboards
autumn agate
Oh that’s nice
past hazel
Finished a new build :)
amber tartan
sonnet is just a really simple and nice board nothing to hate
autumn agate
Real
cerulean raptor
anyone know if the EPOMAKER TH80 Pro 75% 80 Keys Hold holy panda switches ?
grave stone
hi... not sure if anybody's reading - and if it's worth mentioning to #linus...
but I recently watched the video with the split keyboard on #ShortCircuit (pub 2months ago...) - aand that got me to think -
did anyone get the idea to maybe show this to #framework? imagine this type of split keyboard on the Framework 16 🙂 yeah some ergonomic advantage will be lost because flat. but this could be pretty awesome, if possible (and, tenting keyboards on laptops are not impossible .... right?)
autumn agate
anyone know if the EPOMAKER TH80 Pro 75% 80 Keys Hold holy panda switches ?
No
Those are both kind of mid though
autumn agate
hi... not sure if anybody's reading - and if it's worth mentioning to #linus... ...
Tented keyboard on laptop?
The screen would have to bend around the keyboard then right?
grave stone
no, the 'trigger' to fold it could kinda protrude above the tenting or towards the hnge and 'automatically' fold it flat again
when in contact with frame
(or screen if light enough... or be built in to the hinge)
some kind of mechanism maybe to block hinge from closing if tent is up
autumn agate
Seems like an interesting idea
grave stone
buuut regardless of how - the split flat keyboard on a laptop ... is the idea
with the split down the middle
asus ? or acer? has the mechanism to rise a second screen when open
tell me that is not possible to do with a keyboard 😉
autumn agate
That could work, but the issue I see is that with tented the bezels might be wack In the middle
And the row stagger might have to be weird
grave stone
true
so the tent is not all that required i think
but having the SPACE in between 2 halves on a laptop keyboard, with what F16 can apparently do, imagine the possibilities
autumn agate
Maybe a drop board but you’re going to have to buy them separately most likely
cerulean raptor
its a 3/5 pin board
autumn agate
Friendly reminder that your board with holy pandas won’t sound like the edited sound tests you hear on YouTube
cerulean raptor
i know that
autumn agate
its a 3/5 pin board
They will work
graceful fractal
How do you make Keys THOCC
First of all I know I must get rid of blue switches. Which should I get
cerulean raptor
How do you make Keys THOCC
Lube Switches and stabilisers use any type of foam under your pcb and tape the back of your pcb with painters tape 🤓
graceful fractal
Lube Switches and stabilisers use any type of foam under your pcb and tape the ...
Will taping PCB cos any sort of malfunction
graceful fractal
Lube Switches and stabilisers use any type of foam under your pcb and tape the ...
I won't be lubing it though. Too messy
cerulean raptor
Will taping PCB cos any sort of malfunction
no don't do more than 3 layers
graceful fractal
One more question. I'm going for brown switches since I'm on Blue rn
Cherry Gateron or Otemu
cerulean raptor
One more question. I'm going for brown switches since I'm on Blue rn
i have yellows and theres thocc
graceful fractal
i have yellows and theres thocc
I like tactile of blue but they're too loud
graceful fractal
i have yellows and theres thocc
Cherry Gateron or Otemu
cerulean raptor
Cherry Gateron or Otemu
up to you
cerulean raptor
Is there any difference
i dont really know
cerulean raptor
Is there any difference
but personaly i owuld go for yellows
cerulean raptor
What's the difference
yellows are faster and more quite
graceful fractal
yellows are faster and more quite
I like the tactile feel though
cerulean raptor
I like the tactile feel though
with out lubed there ok
graceful fractal
with out lubed there ok
I'm getting the Gateron Ones
cerulean raptor
I'm getting the Gateron Ones
go for it
graceful fractal
Can you
graceful fractal
go for it
Send me a clip of how they sound
I tend not to believe studio recordings 😕
cerulean raptor
lubed or not
cerulean raptor
Just ordered pack of 10. Since they're non refundable.
buy off amazon
should be able to refund
graceful fractal
buy off amazon
Twice as expensive as the website I'm getting from
And no 10 piece option. Straight Up 65
cerulean raptor
yeah but try them then just refund and but from other website
graceful fractal
yeah but try them then just refund and but from other website
$14 vs $36
Also non refundable
Our country has 0 stuff for Keyboard enthusiasts and the ones they have is overpriced
cerulean raptor
ok
amber tartan
blahaj keyboard?
autumn agate
Wowie
grim bronze
what are your phone vs desktop WPMs?
(when i say desktop, im using a laptop, but i just mean whatever keyboard you generally use)
autumn agate
I have like 70-80 on my phone and usually around 110 on my laptop/mech keyboard
swift forge
About 55 on mobile, 80 on iPad, 105 ish on desktop
median slate
Keyboard question, is the Keychron Q4 supposed to be this bad?
nimble heath
what parts do i need to prototype/test? i should be able to test the board without the chassis, keycaps and plate right?
simple flax
What are some of the MOST HOLLOW SOUNDING custom keyboard kits
Ex. Keychron q1
I wanna make a rly loud keyboard so help pls
nimble heath
e-yoosu is pretty loud. 😛
got it cause it was cheap and wanted to verify i wanted to commit to building a mech keyboared instead of sticking to my membrane keyboard.
simple flax
got it cause it was cheap and wanted to verify i wanted to commit to building a ...
Hmmm
Very hollow?
nimble heath
only mech i've ever had but it's loud i can tell you that much.
simple flax
only mech i've ever had but it's loud i can tell you that much.
Hotswap?
nimble heath
can't verify i dont' have a key puller but it and reddragon both are identical tooling and reddragon is hotswap so maybe?
simple flax
Is it like aluminum or
nimble heath
i'd be surprised if the thing wasn't as much plastic as it could be. though reddragon did have some kind of metal plate.
simple flax
i'd be surprised if the thing wasn't as much plastic as it could be. though redd...
LMAOO
nimble heath
like i said teh e-yoosoo is a super budget keyboard (we're talking sub 30usd)
simple flax
like i said teh e-yoosoo is a super budget keyboard (we're talking sub 30usd)
I got one off temu for 12
nimble heath
wow never seen a mech that cheap. 😛
simple flax
wow never seen a mech that cheap. 😛
A keyboard not the one ur talking abt
I modded it up it sounds good now wanna see the sound test @nimble heath
simple flax
Gib hollow aluminum keeb suggestions
median slate
I haven’t touched them since I got it
The stabs I mean
The keycap is fine, I don’t know man 💀
autumn agate
I don’t think the wire would fit with the stem backwards
median slate
Ples help
high axle
Ples help
is there even a switch under that keycap 😭 either theres no switch or the stabs are broken from what ik
median slate
Yeah, theee is
high axle
does the switch go back up?
high axle
man
median slate
😭
median slate
I hope so too, I’m stuck on my goofy lil standard mount keeb now
It’s only got gat milky yellow pros
I want my oil kings 🥲
high axle
good luck with ur keeb man 😭
main narwhal
Keyboard question, is the Keychron Q4 supposed to be this bad?
did you put it together?
median slate
Wym?
main narwhal
you got it barebone or fully assembled?
median slate
Barebones
main narwhal
do you know how to check if the stabs are fully seated and flush against the pcb?
main narwhal
yeah
median slate
-.-
main narwhal
you might be able to see it if the keycap and switch are out
median slate
How can I tell tho
main narwhal
you just want to see if the stab housing is sitting completely flat against the pcb
median slate
Kk, one sec
main narwhal
if it's slightly lifted it can cause sticking
high axle
oh i thought yours was prebuilt
main narwhal
and/or if the wire has popped
tiny yew
and/or if the wire has popped
wire balancing ?
tiny yew
yeah idk
main narwhal
most newer stabs have tabs that don't allow it to happen
but it was a very common issue with older durock/jwk stabs
tiny yew
I lubed my own stabs but it turns out they were bad anyway
it sounds slightly better
I did a PCB tape mod and put some tape underneath to reduce rattle
it took a while to break them in tho
median slate
if it's slightly lifted it can cause sticking
That’s the weird thing, when the stabs are moving alone, they’re perfectly smooth
median slate
They are flush
main narwhal
can you take a picture of the stab with the switch out?
main narwhal
yeah
you can see it
it's an easy fix, but you could just contact customer support to get it replaced?
did you get it on amazon?
@median slate *easy fix, but tedious
median slate
did you get it on amazon?
Divinikey
I already did contact the support, waiting for a response
main narwhal
the q4 barebones kit comes assembled right? you just pop in the switches?
median slate
the q4 barebones kit comes assembled right? you just pop in the switches?
Yup
That was a factory mistake, I didn’t touch ‘em till after I found the problem
waxen bane
People active in keyboard chat for once?
median slate
Ikrr
waxen bane
Seizing the opportunity, anyone know a factory keyboard with nice silent but creamy sound? Preferable black. I can change keycaps. Rgb would be nice as well. Doesn’t have to shine through keycaps
median slate
You want a keyboard, or you want switches?
waxen bane
You want a keyboard, or you want switches?
Keyboard preferable. I don’t rlly wanna build one.
But I can if I need to
boreal rivet
realforce
main narwhal
lel
median slate
Well, they are INCREDIBLY easy to build, but I suppose
main narwhal
Seizing the opportunity, anyone know a factory keyboard with nice silent but cre...
keychrons are fine
median slate
Keyboard preferable. I don’t rlly wanna build one.
What mounting styles?
waxen bane
What mounting styles?
🙃
boreal rivet
buy a realforce, silence it and call it a day
main narwhal
tkls don't have numpad
waxen bane
Well I’m dumb
I thought 75% and TKL were one and the same.
I chose TKL cause it looks less crowded.
waxen bane
Well, what form factor?
TKL
waxen bane
I’ve never felt the difference if I’m being honest. Perks on not having a micro center near me.
main narwhal
first, what do you mean by silent
do you mean it doesn't make a sound at all? or do you just not want it to click
waxen bane
Quiet is probably a better word.
boreal rivet
buy a realforce, silence it and call it a day
do this
trust
you're overcomplicating things for yourself
boreal rivet
noted 👍
main narwhal
deskeys bke v2 purples or blues are naise
waxen bane
Anyone wanna try to explain what linears and tactile a feel like?
Since I need to choose
main narwhal
tactiles have a "Bump"
it can be very slight or can be kind of severe depending on what you get
waxen bane
tactiles have a "Bump"
Like forced feedback?
waxen bane
Linear should be fine. idk how I feel ab a key pressing back at me lol.
waxen bane
Do you want linears, or tactile?
Linear.
main narwhal
honestly I think the first step would be to go to best buy and just put your hands on some of their display boards
waxen bane
Wait Fr?
main narwhal
browns are very light tactiles
median slate
When browns are too loud
median slate
browns are very light tactiles
If you could even call them that
main narwhal
light tactiles are fine
median slate
They’re practically linears
main narwhal
it's all preference
waxen bane
I see what you mean.
median slate
Yeye, js making fun of browns
main narwhal
and you find the browns too loud?
median slate
Yup
waxen bane
I think linear is still fine. I can always change switches later.
Because unlike pc parts they cheap. (For the most part)
waxen bane
What do I put them in?
waxen bane
Hold on lemme look at a sound test rq
median slate
Keychron V4, and strawberry milks
waxen bane
Misleading title ig
main narwhal
well it's not even that
it's common miscommunication due to people associating "silent" with "not clicky"
if you order a silent switch specifically, ti's designed not to make a sound at all
and also, if you don't need that level of quietness, I usually do not recommend silent switches
waxen bane
Does keycron sell a barebones model? Ya know to save money.
main narwhal
because almost all of them feel gummy due to the foam bits they use to silence them
and yes
waxen bane
Well those cream yellows don’t seem to need foam mods.
main narwhal
foam bits in silent switches aren't something you add on afterwards
they are usually tiny
lil foam bits at the top and bottom of the sides of the sliders on the stem
it effects how they feel
waxen bane
Well I don’t need silents I just thought that’s what those ones were. I really just want a quiet creamy sound.
main narwhal
what country are you ordering from
waxen bane
Usa
Ir doesn’t have to be the same switches I just want the same sound. And preferably something I wouldn’t need to lube
Cause some switches feel l scratchy if you don’t lube them apparently.
simple flax
Red brown and blue all suck ass no lie
Gotta find the hidden gems
Like Gateron cream sodas
main narwhal
g pro yellows should work fine
in general, factory lubed switches can be kind of inconsistent
waxen bane
See I like creamy. Just a lil quieter. https://youtu.be/CorB0q9QImw
main narwhal
g pro yellows are fine lol
also sound can be a really finnicky thing to chase since every aspect of the board will effect it
plate type, mount type, case material, after market modifications, etc
waxen bane
So is there any way to make the board have that softer, tiny bit quieter sound without effecting the quality of typing?
main narwhal
quickest and easiest way that pops into my mind is tape modding the pcb
waxen bane
I think I’ve seen that before. People usually tape it and something else
chrome raft
3rd time of asking for suggestion for a wireless barebone under 40usd
simple flax
quickest and easiest way that pops into my mind is tape modding the pcb
I never don’t tape mod
Aka I always tape mod
5 layers of painters tape
waxen bane
So Keykron barbones with some creamy switches and tape mod.
Now for my favorite part.
Keycaps.
waxen bane
Time to be recommended a $100 set of gmk keycaps 1000 times
Why do people justify the 100-150 price tag on gmk keycaps so much?
simple flax
Ma profile is the goat
main narwhal
you can get pretty good cheap stuff nowdays
waxen bane
I like mouses. they’re so simple.
simple flax
we actually don'tk now
My profile pic is a schnauzer
main narwhal
listed as mutt/terrier
simple flax
It’s my cute lil baby
main narwhal
@waxen bane like I said, sound profile is kind of hard to chase
waxen bane
I get GMK is arguably the best keycaps on the market. But $100
main narwhal
general consensus seems to be
the taller the keycap, the closer you'll get to that kind of muted sound
simple flax
listed as mutt/terrier
It actually reminds me more of my West Highland terrier, minnie schnauzer mix
main narwhal
e.g. SA caps, MA caps
waxen bane
<@796497960627601470> like I said, sound profile is kind of hard to chase
I’m not picky. So as long as it sound generally the way I want I’ll be happy.
Oh shit.
Does keykron have custom LEDs or are they preset?
main narwhal
Does keykron have custom LEDs or are they preset?
generally rgb
they have a huge range though
so it v aries
waxen bane
Well custom would be ideal. Cause yk.
If I ever wanted to be Ankha themed for the day.
Plus custom colored layout and reactive.
main narwhal
rgb generally doesn't shine through very well through most custom keycaps
unless it's been specifically designed to be shinethrough
waxen bane
Well yeah. Usually they shine around the edges. But it’s better than nothing.
The shine through letters don’t make much of a difference as people think
waxen bane
So does keycron have another model with fully custom rgb?
main narwhal
what model are you looking at
waxen bane
Well I thought they had rgb barebones but I haven’t found one yet so momentarily
simple flax
Can you use a keyboard without a plate? I feel like you could, but what would happen
waxen bane
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v3-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard
They do. Just bad website design. I had to look to find that piece of info.
main narwhal
Can you use a keyboard without a plate? I feel like you could, but what would ha...
yes
simple flax
it has to be in a board designed for it though
So like, what if I just didn’t put the plate on my tofu65
main narwhal
isn't that a hotswap board?
simple flax
Tes
main narwhal
then you can't
main narwhal
yeah
simple flax
Not if I typed gently
main narwhal
plate helps hold them in place
main narwhal
especially if you have 3 pin switches
simple flax
What plate is louder, aluminum or stainless steel?
waxen bane
The rgb obviously has individual lighting abilities so why isn’t there a software that allows full customization?
glossy mica
worlds greatest mysteries
glossy mica
See I like creamy. Just a lil quieter. https://youtu.be/CorB0q9QImw
just stuff your board with foam
switches dont make that sound
simple flax
Is stainless steel louder than aluminum