peripherals

[fierce walrus]

I get what you mean but they have to hit the polling window right ?

^

Unless your ass is playing human benchmark reaction time test with a keeb

Competitively*

[muted karma]

you basically always miss that

only very few mice don't

[fierce walrus]

Shit mice idk?

Atleast surely the evga mice has less drift clueless

[muted karma]

yea motion delay on it is good

can't do 8khz tho

[fathom terrace]

What about the corsair i mentioned above?

Its not a normal mechanical, but an optical instead

[muted karma]

which doesn't really change anything

if you wanna metagame keyboards buy a wooting

[fathom terrace]

Not at 100€

Wootings are still somewhat expensive

And the opx from corsair apparently has 0.25ms delay. Prolly bs but prolly closer to that than to 11ms

[pseudo owl]

I'm always so confused why they brag about the lighting like it's slowing it down because of the power draw

[cunning anvil]

effects use processing power, does it not?

[pseudo owl]

Yeah

Iirc

That's what I've heard

[cunning anvil]

unless there's a secondary processor for lighting ig lol

[pseudo owl]

lol

[cunning anvil]

that sounds like fun to try making

almost

[pseudo owl]

Agreed

you know what sounds more fun?

[cunning anvil]

not dying

unrelated, but that sounds p fun

tbh my boards don't have rgb because i just don't care to support it

[pseudo owl]

Instead of making a matrix on your keyboard you make a full sized keyboard with each keyswitch have its own gpio pin

That sounds like hell

[cunning anvil]

bottom row

could do a 100 with stm32f103Zx

100%

so not that far fetched ig

[pseudo owl]

hmmm

[muted karma]

yep

with bad fw it can impact performance

[cunning anvil]

threre any good foss fw out?

not that i feel i need that good for my case

[muted karma]

for what

[cunning anvil]

keyboards? probably for atmega32u4 or rp2040 at minimum

[muted karma]

qmk

runs on both

if you use vial on top of qmk you even get a live configurator

with webusb stuff

so you don't even need to install software for that

https://github.com/vial-kb/vial-qmk

look at qmk first ig

since vial relies heavily on qmk

qmk has been the default for custom keyboards for quite a while now

[cunning anvil]

yeah just wondering if it's that good

im aware of it but also hear mixed things about it

[pseudo owl]

It seems the only way to get the last one from what I've seen is you'd have to take it out of a 200 dollar evaluation pcb

wooo

In fact I can't find any of these chips

I found similar ones in the series

And found the datasheet you were looking at

[cunning anvil]

oof

[muted karma]

most of the issues people have with it are resolveable

aka debounce settings

[amber tartan]

my board uses vial and its great

its pretty much an AIO for qmk/via

[muted karma]

I mean

it is a VERY similar thing to via

aka

running on top of qmk

giving you a configurator that doesn't require reflashing

vial just supports a few more features

and you don't need to wait for a few months to get your keymap accepted into a repo

since the keymap is loaded from the board

[agile minnow]

i have a tenkeyless mechanical keyboard, some of the keys didn't work so i sprayed some alcohol in every switch to get things moving

idk if its a long term fix, should i take it apart and clean the pcb thoroughly?

deal with any corrosion of the contacts?

[glossy mica]

why would you put alcohol in the switches

[agile minnow]

i dried it dw

it fixed the key issue and the keyboard works fine now

but idk if its a permanent fix of if the alcohol just temporarily improved conductivity

anyways i just learned the switches are hot swappable so ill just clean the pcb under the keys directly with a cotton swab

[glossy mica]

yeah I would just replace all the keys that aren't working

[agile minnow]

it was sitting under the bed for some time, could be just dust buildup.

ill clean the keys either way

[dawn swan]

corsair isnt great in terms of quality unless you baby your keyboard but their opticals might be more durable

8000hz is more prone to chattering atleast with mechanical leaf contact switches but optical should have far less issue

wooting is hall effect with 500hz default and 1000hz high speed mode

with 1-4ms depending on model and configuration

the 60he is slightly faster than the two he because of how it does key scanning

less keys to scan for wooting = lower input lag

it does it row by row i think its not a matrix

[agile minnow]

i might consider getting brown switches for the keyboard since i'll mainly use it for writing

[dawn swan]

ive been through a few corsairs and other brands and have not really been that happy with them

spent more on going through poor quality ones over buying a wooting once for 180-190 usd without any accessories or replacement parts

took about 2 months shipping didnt pay some ebay scalper

you can set a typing profile with a long actuation distance for accuracy and then swap to a game profile with rapid trigger and very short actuation to have better responsiveness ingame

or analog input

60he is slightly cheaper but unless you really want a compact board then its not worth the discount vs a fullsize

1ms input lag is something id consider not really noticeable but 10+ is kind of shit

keychron is still faster than probably alot of membrane and ultra cheap mechanical like redragon which have up to 25ms

or something like GMMK fullsize hotswap those are really bad

but if you are going to spend a decent amount on a gaming keyboard and are OK with waiting then ive not really had complaints so far with the wooting im using

just got tired of the bullshit with chattering and no ability to change anything other than swapping switches on other brands

atleast with this if i feel something is off or i dont like how im typing i can just immediately change the actuation distance

especially when most other gaming focused keyboards have soldered switches

[pseudo owl]

Hey yk what’s cool

That gateron released switches for these

So if you wanna try some diff ones

Just buy some and plop them in

[dawn swan]

i might like heavier i thought that they were a lighter version they released

L60 and L45

green vs yellow stem

[pseudo owl]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-magnetic-white-switch-set?VariantsId=10680

[dawn swan]

yeah i think the orange is actually lighter than the l60 green ones

i usually prefer heavy switches

why i set actuation so low for my typing profile

then for gaming profiles or analog it starts responding right near the top of the keypress

[karmic atlas]

i wanna try building a keyboard. i have the general look of it and the switches in mind. i want nice stabs, an upgrade from my current keyboard.

what online retailer is best for buying keyboard parts?

[fathom terrace]

i bought it used so i hope that wont bite me in the ass

[dawn swan]

ive had one corsair die from a very small amount of drink spilling on the top row

then the next corsair was one with a rubber mat around the switches to "solve" that issue but that model had a ton of chatter

returned it to bestbuy and the 2nd keyboard has keychatter but on different keys

have not used a corsair with optical switches

but optical "should" be immune to switch chatter and more resistant to abuse

chattering is when the keeybboarrd ttyppes like this on certain keys from either shit debounce algorithm/dirty switches or both combined

[fathom terrace]

i dont know if it matters but afaik mine is hot swappable

the k100

[dawn swan]

double/triple typing characters

hot swap mainly was only an issue for me with normal mechanical switches because poor contact can cause issues

should not be as bad with optical

[fathom terrace]

id assume hotswappable mechanicals arent just easier to customize in theory, but also for repair and maintenance

[dawn swan]

hotswap cherry mx with the normal electrical contacts NOT optical/hall effect have the issue of the shitty sockets in the PCB causing problems

the sockets can wear out over time and if you are not very careful when installing they can blow out the back of the pcb

and the traces can pull off

optical and hall effect should not have those issues

so hopefully your corsair will be fine

[fathom terrace]

if my membrane "mechanical" were a hotswappable instead id imagine it wouldve been in a much better state after i tried cleaning it. now its really fucking loud and sounds a bit weird. cant wait to upgrade

[fathom terrace]

worst case i bought both the keychron k8 pro and this one. the k8 new but shipping is long

[dawn swan]

what di dthe used corsair cost

[fathom terrace]

100

110€ rather

new you get those for around 165

[dawn swan]

not sure if it was worth the used risk for that discount but at worst maybe you have to clean it

unless the previous owner spilled stuff on it or bashed it

[fathom terrace]

screenshots made it look pretty well maintained

and it was sold by a girl that also sold her pretty fashionible clothes, the character type of the slobby nerd that doesnt care about hygene and care doesnt really synergize with that. but thats just spitballing at that point

[dawn swan]

where do you even buy replacement switches for corsair OPX

might be able to buy other brand opticals but i dont see OPX for sale anywhere

[fathom terrace]

also, i just looked at a reddit post for that keyboard and official support said it isnt hotswappable, but other users said it is and they actually took the switches out easily

[dawn swan]

the ones it comes with

[fathom terrace]

thats spooky

[dawn swan]

if you get screwed over with a few damaged switches id swap some from a less utilized part of the keyboard since idk if you can order OPX replacements

[fathom terrace]

yeah

i dont know, feels like whatever i get everything is wrong XD. but maybe i just have to waste more money to know what to buy and what not to

[dawn swan]

thats the issue

sometimes have to learn after wasting money on bad products

[fathom terrace]

luckily 100 bucks arent that much of a gut punch

[dawn swan]

"rare defects" or "non issues" that "nobody else seems to have"

yet ive had switch chattering on multiple different keyboard brands

[fathom terrace]

still sceptical on their claim to have a "0.25ms delay"

[dawn swan]

inherent design flaw with cherry mx switches with leaf contacts

why optical and hall effect are becoming more popular

especially for the high polling rate low latency boards

[fathom terrace]

whats the best key type on average?

mechanical, optical, or is there another option im not aware of?

[dawn swan]

mechanical is not really the right term because multiple things can be "mechanical"

can probably group it into a few things

[fathom terrace]

fair

optical technically is mechanical as well

which is why i didnt know about it until recently

cause i thought it was another word for membrane or sth

[dawn swan]

rubber dome membrane, mechanical membrane, capacitive rubber dome, hall effect, capacitive buckling spring, optical, mechanical with leaf contact

[fathom terrace]

cant wait to google all of those

[dawn swan]

one example is how IBM model F vs model M are different

model F has capacitive buckling spring switches and model M has membrane buckling spring

both use a similar mechanism and feel kind of similar

but have a completely different way of detecting the keystroke

usually membrane keyboards are known for being rubber dome with 2kro and having a shitty layout with low lifespans and zero repairability

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Keystroke_sensing

[fathom terrace]

also i just now have heard about "breaking in" switches when googling, and that sounds like a meme tbh

[dawn swan]

only "breaking in" ive experienced is tactile and clicky switches feeling worse after weeks of use

feeling less crisp

[fathom terrace]

is there any reason to ever buy a membrane keyboard besides price?

[dawn swan]

maybe waterproofness

[fathom terrace]

ive seen a lot of those flat keyboards and i never understood why one would buy a flat keyboard. like, if you are buying a seperate object go for quality instead. theres no need for that level of minimizing

[dawn swan]

harsh environment

like a manufacturing area

[fathom terrace]

ive even seen good reputation keyboards having "flat versions"

[dawn swan]

dust/water/humidity

[fathom terrace]

its just weird to me

[dawn swan]

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Contact_bounce#Debouncing

that is the "non issue that is very rare"

which all metal leaf switches can experience

why stuff like keychron has a high latency is because they use a long delay for debouncing

to prevent chattering from coming through

probably use 5ms for their debounce and do not use an eager algorithm so it adds 5ms to the input lag

[fathom terrace]

also, i dont know why but capacitive switches look funny to me. really dated

[dawn swan]

yeah not much uses them anymore

not sure what does nowadays

optical and hall effect are the two most popular non leaf spring contact

contactless switches

[fathom terrace]

hm that makes sense. lowering their specs in favor of reliability.

didnt even consider that

[dawn swan]

their main target group for the keyboards do not care that much about gaming or absolute lowest latency

they care more about typing and productivity work with them

the keyboards would probably be really good for gaming if the firmware was flashed with something actually fast

but QMK is not the greatest

best you can do is 1ms with 1000hz polling rate in qmk and eager debounce

but it will have things like one keypress per scan and other limitations that the gaming brands do not

there is "nkro" or "anti ghosting" which you can force with QMK configuration but it still only scans one key pre polling

so if you press say 3 keys at the same time they will be each sent in a different cycle

1ms apart instead of all at the same time

edgecase that does not affect much but its still objectively worse than some gaming keyboard firmware

some screenshots from QMK support discord on that subject

i have some screenshots of that behavior with a keyboard inspector program where i pressed down multiple keys at the same time by pushing down on the keyboard with a flat object

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473506116718952450/1011850792405303426/unknown.png

set to 125hz polling rate to exaggerate it to make it easier to measure

~8ms between each key sent even though all were pressed at the same time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440868230475677698/1016798978442014730/unknown.png

program is called keyboardinspector on github

made to estimate polling rate through measuring time between keypresses sent

but all keyboards running QMK including keychron as far as i know exhibit that behavior unless you build your own from an obscure pull request that one of their contributors was trying to make to solve the problem

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/10955

i managed to get that working on one of my keyboards flashed with QMK but the implementation was not great

still was exhibiting worse behavior than a 40 dollar gigabyte keyboard

wooting wrote something explaining some of the issues with keyboard latency so it would obviously be biased towards their own but its accurate as far as i know https://next.wooting.io/post/what-influences-keyboard-speed

[smoky comet]

disregarded

keychron better

[deep charm]

Has anyone hear ever ordered off of divinikey? If so, was your experience good?

Looking for some tactile switches :)

[deep charm]

I love the colours!!!

[restive ridge]

Im a fan of boba u4t’s

Not clear case

[deep charm]

What does that mean? 😅

[restive ridge]

Ill get a link to the switch

https://swagkeys.com/products/gazzew-u4t-boba-switches?variant=43620145168637

Not a fan of the rgb version(clear top)

[deep charm]

Ohhhh

Have you ever purchased off of divinikey?

[glossy sandal]

ye, they're one of the better vendors

[deep charm]

I was suspicious because they only have 2 keyboard chassis’s on their site

[glossy sandal]

they don’t sell much actual keyboards

more so switches, keycaps, etc

that sorta thing

[deep charm]

Ohhh so I’d have to go somewhere else for the PCB, case, and stuff like that?

[glossy sandal]

what you’re looking for is called a kit

but yeah, essentially

[deep charm]

Hey thank you for letting me know! 😄

I’m excited to build a keyboard

[glossy sandal]

godspeed

[restive ridge]

Good luck, be careful it can turn into an addiction

[deep charm]

I’ll start slow 😬 heheh

[restive ridge]

I haven’t been able to stop

[glossy sandal]

i see da typ60

i like da typ60

wait that's not a typ60 💀

typ60 mictlan

[restive ridge]

I used up all my luck for this year on that one

1 of 10

[glossy sandal]

[wooden ember]

Look at this cute little guy I just got

[glossy mica]

how much you pay for it

Divinikey was so good before they charged taxes 😭

Noice

I've completely gone away from tactiles lol

[glossy mica]

nice

I went from only tactile to a bit to a little to none lol

[deep charm]

Oh do they have big import fees?

[fathom terrace]

ok i refunded the keychron. maybe ill get into enthusiast keyboards in the future. but as of now i dont know if i really need to. on the LTT discord there are multiple keychron supporters, dunno about this server.

i know people really love it but i dont know if i should buy 2 keyboards just because the feel might be good, but since i value response time i prefer to stick with something more in that line.

maybe i'll buy me a wooting in the future once (or if) i end up having a more loose budget. still, thanks everyone for giving me tips. sorry that i wasnt clear in my wishes upfront

[pseudo owl]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

We tried

[arctic shuttle]

Response time for a keyboard. All it does is make you missinput faster

If you want ultimate gaming tharble responce time just get Razer analog at that point

And those are terrible keyboards

[humble scarab]

I have a question,
Does anyone know if I can take the PCB out of FEKER IK75 Pro 3 and put it in drop sense75?

[amber tartan]

probably not

[sleek bronze]

Still the best thing I own

[fathom terrace]

as opposed to the k100 or the keychron?

and yeah thats why im having my eyes on the wooting. sure its a painful price to go up to 200 but once i have enough money to burn i might go for a no compromises keyboard

my only issue with a lot of enthusiast keyboards is that a lot of them are below 805/TKL, and all the "gaming first" ones tend to be 100%. dont like my keys mushed together but dont need the numpad at all

that said, i have yet to find a good custom that has seperate function keys as opposed to forcing them onto the FN buttons. but tbf that could take away from the minimal look, not to mention make the board itself a bit more clunky

[cunning anvil]

how high level gamer does one need to be to notice that response time?

out of curiosity

(on a qmk board)

[fathom terrace]

i think it isnt about the level of being a true basement dweller, its more about the type of game. considering im used to movement shooters, i already have a very intuitive reponse time with wasd, mostly in strafing and general adabtive mobility. games like valorant in competitive, or tf2 scout in casual id imagine could make a difference.

[cunning anvil]

i mostly play drg and pvm d2r

[fathom terrace]

also maybe siege, but im not high enough elo to truly tell in that. after all, everything has its own delay by design in that game

[fathom terrace]

yeah probably wont hurt to have a mid response time id imagine

[cunning anvil]

aight thx

ill keep putzing with my stupid boards

[fathom terrace]

take my view with a grain of salt tho, i have never had a mechanical and am about to switch over to a 2 year used corsair k100 as my first. most of what i told you ive heard over multiple forums and videos.

half of the people in here keep telling me how keychrons delay is utterly horrible, the other one tells me i wouldnt ever notice it in practice

[cunning anvil]

ive been on qmk for a while and just wondering how much of my misinputs are just me being dumb

[fathom terrace]

so i went with the safe bet, and left the enthusiast keyboard community on the shelf for now

[fathom terrace]

honestly i have little to no knowledge of keyboard software nor what difference it makes, past the overdesigned rgb stuff that came with my mouse driver

is it wireless?

[cunning anvil]

nah

qmk is silly with wireless

license wise

[fathom terrace]

ive never heard qmk/via outside of enthusiast keyboards

apparently its good for some reason, from what ive heard is only bc the others are worse. but i had little to no reason to look into it that much

[cunning anvil]

i like free software

and it being free means i can modify it for all my stupid diy designs

main reason i like it

zmk is a pretty neat option for nrf boards

kmk is... interesting, never looked much into it tho

[fathom terrace]

i mean i like foss too but sometimes its just that the proprietary software is still better.
but i guess in terms of keyboard and mouse, where i had my fair share of horrible software
cough LG cough
it def is a plus

[cunning anvil]

yeah, it is better

almost always, i just disagree with using it

but eh, its like degoogling

an ultimately fruitless effort

but it keeps me distracted

mostly into foss for stuff i plan to mod anyways

not necessarily a stallman type

hard to modify stuff when you dont know what it can/does even do

[fathom terrace]

yeah i have that urge in me to mod and customize just for the sake of doing so

[fathom terrace]

its less a need and more of an itch. part of why i wanna degoogle is not just the control part, its the idea of a free market that is really appealing to me. giving too much to google both doesnt feed the competition as well as makes it harder for the competiton to even compete, since google feeds on user quantity

i dont know if this fits to keyboard sellers as well, but afaik it works with most tech, especcially that which relies on artifical monopoly such as nvidia

[chrome raft]

Only in Kmart

[vocal depot]

damn

[fathom terrace]

if it werent membrane id be really curious about how itd feel

prolly still bad but it might be funny

tried googling it and damn youre right, cant find it anywhere else other than kmart

https://youtu.be/8zg2iZRfqgw

not the same but the same brand. also, is it normal to have issues with the amount of keys one can press simultaniously or is that usually just a cheap keyboard issue? ive rarely seen that aspect being shown in spec listings

in the case of this keyboard itd be a dealbreaker bc some strg alt combinations wouldnt work for some reason

[sleek bronze]

The number of keys pressed simultaneously is often talked about in marketing stuff, like "n key rollover" stuff like that
However almost every keyboard has no problem with that and can press a good enough number of keys simultaneously so it's just BS marketing usually

[fathom terrace]

ah

[amber tartan]

lol

[fathom terrace]

outside the beforementioned cheapo keyboards that is

also past 10 keys i dont see a reason. cause... yknow.. hands and stuff

unless you have some weird rolling typing method or sth

[sleek bronze]

I mean you only have 10 fingers in the end

[amber tartan]

most keyboards already do more than 2kro so nkro is barely even a marketing term but a standard anyway

[fathom terrace]

yeah thats what i mean

maybe 11 at best to minimize the chance of delay eating input. but doubt even thatd be unlikely

it seems like the kind of perfect marketing buzzword, because its almost impossible to prove you wrong on it

[humble scarab]

Anyone with EPOMAKER TH80 Pro here, I would like to know how it is and how the RGB software is

[remote marsh]

I’m just better like that 💪💪💪

Idk how I did this

[cunning anvil]

gas gas gas

doug case ordered

also 100ortho case

[fathom terrace]

any cheap (or free?) ways to improve and/or change up a keyboard? i think ive seen someone use covering tape inside of the keyboard for some reason but i have no clue what they intended to do with that

asking more out of curiosity than necessity

[amber tartan]

the cheapest way is to save up money to get a actual keyboard

[lean karma]

Best thing i could recommend is if u want a mechanical keyboard and dont have one check fb market place/ebay alot of very good keyboards can go for as little as 10bucks ive gotten a corsair k70 for 10 a little ago othet then that if you already have one you could try a bit of foam on the inside for some detening but i myself have never seen a notable change to make it worth the effort. Hope this helps ♡

[wild star]

https://switchandclick.com/how-to-tempest-tape-mod-your-keyboard/

[median slate]

Cream or thock

[cunning anvil]

crock

theam

[timber junco]

i need help deciding. TTC Silent Bluish White Switches Tactile or cherry black silent. tcc is 60 cents and cherry is 50 cents. im going to lube film

[median slate]

Okay, if I live NovelKey Creams, will they still need to be, “broken in”, or will they still be relatively scratchy?

[urban panther]

yes

[median slate]

Very helpful thank you

[glossy sandal]

a third more sinister thing

[glossy sandal]

WHAT

[undone sequoia]

Yo should I get a yunzii yz75 or the rog azoth? I will be using either of these for gaming primarily

[cunning anvil]

wdym what lol

[echo holly]

Hey I know that guy

[dawn swan]

most keyboards in the 25-40 dollar price range completely suck but are better than majority of membranes

one redragon i got around that price had "n-key rollover" but that doesnt matter if it has the worst firmare and pcb in existence

some of them are hotswap but only with a specific switch brand because of the socket size

tried measuring the polling rate of the redragon and it was behaving like 125hz

looking up reviews on it and it was above 20ms input delay when rtings and i think somewhere else tested

redragon surara fullsize which is like 40-50 usd

still not the worst mechanical keyboard ive ever seen

two other ones ive had which earn that title

GMMK 100% barebones and some chinese amazon mx brown keyboard TKL that was 40 dollars

the 40 dollar amazon TKL had "n-key rollover" "anti ghosting" but it doesnt matter from how awful it was

keys felt mushier than membrane and it would wait a full 8ms between each keystroke being sent to the OS

so 125hz and chord splitting

basically the worst case scenario for a mechanical keyboard

lowest polling rate and worst firmware

6-key rollover should be the standard on modern USB keyboards usually and some keyboards come with a switch or software tool to swap between the N-key and 6-key for OS compatibility

and 1000hz should be usable by almost anything so the only reason keyboards would use 125-250hz is because they are cheap shit e-waste out of a dumpster

argument can be made for 4000-8000hz being unnecessary and causing compatibility issues with stuff like consoles since 1000hz-8000hz is sub milisecond differences

but 1000hz should be standard for anything decent

have seen an example of someone "not being able" to use 1000hz mode on a wooting because they bought a custom USB C cable that was coiled and had a metal terminal plug on it but any good actual USB cable should handle the signal

what happens when you spend 50+ dollars on a custom cable using copper thinner than a human hair

[boreal rivet]

But muh coil and muh aesthetics

Can’t make a coil when my wire has shielding 😭

[topaz wave]

What keyboard switches are compatible with this PCB ?

Would the cherry MX blacks work ?

[dawn swan]

they should but you have to desolder

if you are just doing that keyboard you can get a cheap soldering iron kit and a decent manual solder sucker

spend a few hours on it

not as easy as hotswap

i liked using kailh box more than cherry mx style switches

box black/yellow linears felt fairly good

swapped all the switches on a durgod, evga, gigabyte keyboard with them

durgod and gigabyte boards were 100% layouts desolder and solder the evga was a 100% layout hotswap

[topaz wave]

I am fine with soldering

[dawn swan]

only real downsides that i know of to the kailh box style are that they apparently do not work as well with lubing

because of a drainage hole in the housing of the switch

also some older revisions cracked certain keycaps and people whined about their overpriced GMK sets being ruined

after ramming them on way too hard

[topaz wave]

This is the model of PCB it uses

[dawn swan]

not sure why any switch wouldnt work on that

its just a normal ducky keyboard

[topaz wave]

It's a two pin design

[dawn swan]

just use whatever as long as its not an optical switch

and not RGB built into switch

looks like that may be able to accept plate OR pcb mount style switches

since there are the holes for it in the pcb

either one

[topaz wave]

So then can I cut one pin from the 3pin Mx black?

[dawn swan]

appears like it currently has plate mount switches installed

what do you mean by 3 pin

do yo umean like this

either type would work on that pcb i think

since it has the holes

the holes are currently unpopulated

since it has plate mount switches installed or 3 pin whatever they call it

[dawn swan]

yeah so by 3 pin they would mean the two metal leads and then the center plastic nub

[topaz wave]

Oh ok I didn't know that

[dawn swan]

it would work

5 pin is PCB mount

which has better support may be more rigid

[topaz wave]

Thanks for the help

[dawn swan]

but its soldered so should not matter that much

[topaz wave]

I am getting a disordering pump to make is easier

[dawn swan]

the 100 dollar chinese ones apparently break after doing 1-2 keyboards

not known to last

ive used antique soldering sucker stations with a vacuum pump and the tip usually gets clogged halfway through a keyboard

ends up being faster and easier to just use a manual spring loaded one

and a 80w+ iron

i think i used an 80w iron dont remember

set it to something like 400c and just went row by row with solder sucker

the really cheap ones spray crap all over the pcb though

all the solder beads and dust

[topaz wave]

Also why are 2 pin switchs called 3 pin switches

[dawn swan]

probably because of the plastic part being called a "pin" for some stupid reason

[topaz wave]

Fair enough

[dawn swan]

i just call it plate mount vs PCB mount

and thats how some keyboard stores differentiate the two

for ordering switches

plate mount is 3 pin pcb is 5 pin

[topaz wave]

How would you mount the switchs ?

[dawn swan]

does the keyboard have a metal plate above the pcb

that the switches snap into

what does it look like from the top side

[topaz wave]

It has a plastic mount

[dawn swan]

yeah so they snap into the plate of whatever material

so after you desolder the legs and make sure there is no solder bridging from the throughhole to the leg leftover

[topaz wave]

Nice

[dawn swan]

you take the switch out

[topaz wave]

Just ordered the switches

[dawn swan]

either with a switch puller or doing a dirtier method

i just get the edge of an allen wrench and then push down hard with my thumb on the plastic peg in the center from the underside of the pcb

and the switch flies out

the white center part

its a higher risk of damaging it but it was really fast for the keyboards i did

[topaz wave]

Ok

[dawn swan]

hurts your fingers a bit

if you do it properly you use a switch puller from the top side of the plate and you depress the plastic clip to make the switch release

but i dont really like doing that

its less risky though for the pcb and if you want to save the old switches

when you put the new switches in what i usually did was put 4-5 switches into the plate

[topaz wave]

How many keyboards have you built or modified?

[dawn swan]

3 or 4

[topaz wave]

Nice

[dawn swan]

i just got tired of it and using wooting now

seeing how long it lasts before it needs any actual maintenance

like switch replacements or lubing

kept running into the issue of stuff like switch chatter and bad firmware with undesirable latency/polling rate

and depending on the brand poor macro software or rgb control

ducky is a better brand than some of the garbage out there right now but they are not perfect which is the one you have

main reason i went with the keyboard im using now is because i was tired of dealing with the chattering problem

and hall effect switches should be basically immune to it

atleast far more so than metal leaf contact switches

chattering is mainly an annoyance when typing by introducing typos with double or triple characters but can be really frustrating with games that have keybinds which have a double tap functionality

where if you rapidly press a key twice in a row it does something different

one of the most well known ones probably is sprinting in minecraft by double tapping W

or terraria A and D keys double tapped to dash in a direction with certain armor or accessories

that was very annoying with key chatter

especially since more used keys like WASD get worn out faster and will experience chatter far more likely than less used keys

but according to some people here "not an issue" "very rare" "only you seem to experience it"

when its happened on atleast 2 or 3 of my keyboards after using for months

and with corsair the same day of unboxing it

[cunning anvil]

oof

[dawn swan]

seeing absolutely no chattering on wooting after tensing up my arms and rapidly just spamming each row of keys

with switch hitter program

[cunning anvil]

that's good

[dawn swan]

where if i did the same thing with one of my other keyboards atleast 1-2 would show red

which means it saw a keystroke twice in 10-15ms

which usually means chattering

[cunning anvil]

ig im just lucky and/or don't play games that would make chatter obvious

[dawn swan]

it would be extremely annoying on terraria when fighting a boss and then having it dash in the wrong direction

[cunning anvil]

i should play terraria

it sounds fun

[dawn swan]

i kind of got bored after a few hundred hours of modded and normal

did calamity a few times

its worth the 5 or 10 dollars whatever it costs right now

[topaz wave]

What is it like using the wooting keyboard. I heard is good due to the magnetic switches

[amber tartan]

thats not correct?

the foam is sitting over the wire?

[humble scarab]

How do you tell real cherry MX from fake

[amber tartan]

their logo is branded on the top housing

also all switches are fakes of cherry themselves technically

couldnt get the solder working, cuz it needs an actual power supply

[cold panther]

Any of you guys know any sub-40 GBP keyboards (membrane or not Idc) that are ideally low profile or laptop style?

[median slate]

Does anyone have any dates for when the fkn Keychron Q4 Carbon Black is gonna come back into atock :,)

[urban panther]

Maybe keychron discord would know?

[median slate]

There’s a whole discord?!

This is new information

[urban panther]

Yes

[urban panther]

Do you need me to dm you a link to their discord?

[median slate]

No, I’m in it

[urban panther]

Dope

[naive quest]

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/S2bce4da0d00444429681ef27e9673df5r/Xda-profil-pbt-keycaps-spanisch-russisch-japanisch-koreanisch-franz-sisch-deutsch-f-r-mechanische-tastatur-tastatur.jpg_640x640.jpg - what do you think?

They look really clean

[sleek bronze]

I use xda nowadays

It's wide

Like super wide

So there is less gap between keys

[muted karma]

why did you get full black gats

[amber tartan]

if you say milk topss are better i will beat you to a pulp

[gloomy patrol]

i like milky tops

they look tasty

[karmic atlas]

have i made a mistake by buying gateron blues to go with my custom keyboard?

i feel like no one in the custom keyboard space goes for tactile or clicky switches

[naive quest]

getting XDA in German is a pain

even UK ISO is hard to find xD

[stoic tendon]

I've read a con of the wooting is analog compatibility isnt always great, but is it safe to say it will at worst perform like a non-analog switch in those less compatible scenarios? Or are there programs that will flat out not work and accept wooting inputs as keypresses?

[chilly perch]

xda is fully uniform and square?

I need to pick myself up some caps that are just for DIY macro pad and stuff

[lusty fiber]

guys i have a question, do i get the K8 pro browns or k8 pro reds?

[chilly perch]

browns for certain

(its personal preference tho)

[lusty fiber]

im only for the sound

and i cant really decide

they sound the same

if anyone can confirm

the k8 pro

[chilly perch]

browns and reds will sound very similar

Maybe a bit different but really not much

[chilly perch]

They really arent that different

[glossy sandal]

a linear will never sound the same as a tactile

[chilly perch]

gat browns are barely tactile

[pseudo owl]

lol what?

Browns are tactile

Reds are linear

There is a difference

[urban panther]

Browns

[chrome raft]

only normal people use this keyboard

[urban panther]

What is that

Drop something?

[glossy sandal]

Drop Alt lols

[chrome raft]

why do people spend 200 dollars on a keyboard

[sleek bronze]

Yes
I bought those on AliExpress, they are pbt blanks and there is a lot of colors
Ymdk I believe it was ?

[muted karma]

is saying "i prefer the sound of black tops" too hard?

[tall galleon]

because they may have a extra chunk of money laying around

[lusty fiber]

Cuz why not

[radiant lodge]

please do not the cat

[opaque shard]

That's what it costs to design and produce my own that actually fits my hands...

[amber tartan]

yes, get bent

[muted karma]

it's fine to prefer something else

just odd to see

which is why I pointed it out

why do you have to get so defensive about it instead of just saying "I prefer the sound of them"

[amber tartan]

u talk too much

i need more keyboards

[muted karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986852646012981290/1121126853789351999/PXL_20230621_191706116.png

I think I have enough for a few days

[muted karma]

who knows

got them like this

not like I care much

not a fan of ISO-DE

and having to sell 2 kits is already prooving to be a challenge

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/818410694172606484/939482054419173386/3k_cope.gif

the g80-3000 is complete ass

the 1501s are better ig

just get a replacement PCB

case should be easy to get

but this is still the cheapest way t oget mx blacks

so I will keep doing it

also not like I got them in good condition

I already got them without caps

why do you get overprotective on cherry boards of all things

there are so many 1501s it's insane

and nobody wants them

or well

everybody that wants them has them already

nobody is trying to flip them

ik people that sold modern replacement PCBs for like 20 bucks and just gift you the cases

I'm not even planning to sell them

even if

most I could do is like 30€

because above that you are bound to get one elsewhere rn

not even necessarily vintage

this way I am paying less than 10 cents a switch

if anyone here wants a 1501 they aren't hard to find

[muted karma]

here as in germany, not this discord

it's a 1501

already means it is germany only

so far have not found anyone interested in the caps

even without giving them a price

[muted karma]

won't even bother with the cases

ah ok think I misunderstood that

because people like to hate on harvesting vintage boards

which I get but the boards are so stupid common

the 3k is so incredibly ass

it's so floppy

I already collect enough decent boards though

none of these are especially good condition

including caps

all well used

only excpetion is the black 1800 caps

but those are also the newest

yea since it is newer

I mean all the other ones are WKL and R5 bottom row

G81s it is

someone trying to flip it for 200

still an MY

actually comes with the box btw

it's from 2000

prob not

can't help you with that

I only get the german boards here

as well as overpriced model ms

and aeks with fucked layouts

💀 clean yur mousepad

ok

[rose glen]

ok thats kinda cool, but for 200 bucks? thats a scam

[half elk]

Hellooo, new on the keyboard hobby, and planning/saving up for a new custom keyboard.
Budget is around 100-110usd

The Keychron V1 and the Akko 5075s VIA are the keyboards I'm choosing from.
Want to know what you guys think on the two.

hmm okie okie

[amber tartan]

looks like a victim of a phishing site

hes already muted.

why did you click that link

[chrome raft]

an update on a astolfo themed keyboard

[muted karma]

https://www.pikatea.com/products/the-richard-macropad?utm_source=reddit

[cunning anvil]

true

[pseudo owl]

This tbh

But real talk pikatea is awesome

[old vapor]

hey, was looking for a keyboard and mouse with programable keys for office use. Any suggestions?

[glad dawn]

That is amazing

[glad dawn]

So Macros on the board?

Also side note:
Just purchased this keyboard.
Super excited to get it in a few weeks
https://next.wooting.io/wooting-two-he

[old vapor]

nope only on mouse

[glad dawn]

https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g600-mmo-gaming-mouse.910-002864.html

[amber tartan]

actually its pretty sexy

but for 549 euro starting

[cunning anvil]

g600 is awesome

[glossy sandal]

this shit look like ass!!!

[cunning anvil]

shiny though

baby's bottom

[glad dawn]

Am I the only one who find dials on keyboard useless?

[glad dawn]

I've thought about picking one up for myself

[cunning anvil]

yeah dial on mouse > dial on keyboard

[glad dawn]

I don't change audio levels on my pc, ever.. so they are never useful

[simple bough]

i did like the dial on the corner of the keyboard on one keyboard we had in school but where it is on this keyboard it doesnt look great

[glad dawn]

Yeah but what do you use the dial for other than sound

[simple bough]

i mean if its programable then why not

[glad dawn]

I mean... still
What would it be useful for

[amber tartan]

ok :/

[simple bough]

if it could be programmed if just use it to switch tabs quickly

tho the colors are awesome on it

i love the bronze and mat black

[glad dawn]

I like the colors. I don't like how thick it is

That is thick

[simple bough]

i think its more the quare corners

square

instantly get stabbed from that

[glad dawn]

could be an issue

[simple bough]

i dont think anyone would enjoy have a massive hole in their hand after playing

and im hoping its slithly inclines to otherwise it must hurt to use it

[amber tartan]

its only a 6.5 degrees

20mm front height

which is just your average

maybe a little bit taller than average

[glad dawn]

That is a lot

I prefer an almost flat keyboard

[amber tartan]

i see carpal tunnel happening often

[chrome raft]

i am not buying a pp keyboard

[amber tartan]

i mean the average is like 15mm for most boards

mine is already 16.5 mm

[unkempt dome]

about 25,4 mm for mine

[glad dawn]

talking about increments of distance while also talking about pp keyboards

🙂

[amber tartan]

its preference

[muted karma]

the price on it is so shit

the PCB of it is one big meme

it's 549 starting but you have to add at least another 80€ just to have a positive angel board

and you get this pos

[proven fractal]

I am thinking about getting the Logitech G915 TKL Wireless to clean up my desk. Is the clicky switch option decent?

Or I guess, is there a better all around option for wireless keyboard?

[opaque shard]

Scrolling through text. Useful for coding and other types of text editing.

But generally these designs don't place the dial close enough to your hands for it to be worth it.

[dawn swan]

imagine wanting your keyboard to flex when you type on it "preference" "reduces finger fatigue"

if i want a keyboard that flexes i go and get a 20 dollar POS

550 dollar keyboard with slots in PCB to make it flex

[spice sail]

I found the fitting Mouse for it for sale,

[amber tartan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/521617441617346563/869064062720438342/Check-out-these-jiggle-physics.gif

shut up!!! shakes keyboard

[long vortex]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BN1C79P6

i found a code to get that for $10

whats wrong with it

[west barn]

gasket mount hehe

[radiant lodge]

the next one looks way better 🫣

[smoky comet]

unusable nich junk

"gasket mount"

[glossy sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-cat-kitten-cute-gif-22443336

[glossy mica]

Zero board knowledge

[tame arrow]

Nice keyboard

[glossy sandal]

thanks

[cunning anvil]

cute

[silent rapids]

https://design-milk.com/geistmaschine-asp-series-keyboards-are-ambitiously-elegant/

This is.... something

[boreal rivet]

why is it so ugly

[dawn swan]

because people are stupid

theres a market for it so they can price accordingly and still have sales

incoming reviews after its released of people typing at 30 wpm and praising it as the "best typing experience they have ever had" while drooling onto it

recorded with a microphone 2 inches away that costs less than half the price of the keyboard

its like a modern art sculpture

[wooden ember]

lol

[cunning anvil]

i hate reading that article

[maiden badge]

Can I share my keyboard here? Or is this for more meaningful discussion? (if so let me know, I'll delete this.)

OLKB Preonic I got second hand few months ago with mx speed silvers, the switches are killing me still, if I work for a while it becomes alright, but then it hinders my keyboard use on other (normal) devices, if I go as low as few days without working on that kbd, I drop to 40-60 wpm with a lot of accidental key hits.

Is it a point where I give up? I gave it good few weeks of getting used to all in all, got to 80ish wpm with it (vs normal 110 on a macbook keyboard). I dig the looks and feel, but I dread actually typing on the thing 😦

I used to have mx blues and mx reds before and I enjoyed them significantly more (on staggered kbs), reason why I decided to go with ortho is that I want to eventually get myself a proper split keyboard, so I decided to try ortho as a way to discipline myself in terms of typing, as I never actually learned it apart from decades of practice, so naturally I had/have picked up many bad habits along the way.

So I want some advice whether I should just give up ortho for something else, or if it is worth swapping switches first, and getting some more thought out typing practice, finger placement wise.

[hardy mulch]

Yo what is basically THE best keyboard that isn’t over 150$

[maiden badge]

I dig that one

also Lenovo ones are perfectly functional

[hardy mulch]

Lol

I currently have a steel series apex 3 and want to go from membrane to mechanical

[maiden badge]

what sucks is that I'm typing fastest on a ...macbook air.

It sucked so much when I tried monkeytype on my mechanical keyboard(not the ortho I spoke about above) and then iPad pro (keyboard case), and I was faster on the iPad.

[chrome raft]

what do you guys think about this spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ShEjGgc85fVJbBDxgp_4FBfrX2YYCKmZjgKyd-Hu7ms/edit?usp=sharing

and what do u think i shld go with

i think im set on tkl

[hardy mulch]

What is that keyboard that Linus is always using? It has a usb-c connector and I think is wireless?

Pls ping me with an answer as I will likely not see it otherwise

[dawn swan]

thats because speed silvers are dogshit for typing

keys actuate if you breathe on them

or set down a drink on a hard desk

[maiden badge]

preach yeah

[dawn swan]

only keyboards that are decent at typing and gaming are analog models with adjustable actuation

in terms of "fastest response" for top of keystroke actuation

and being able to set to something lower like 1.8mm for typing

[maiden badge]

I mean this kbd has hot swappable switches, so I can get a set of reds or something

[hardy mulch]

^

[dawn swan]

even reds are kind of light actuation

only linear i kind of enjoyed using for a standard switch was kailh box black

but still made more typing errors than with a clicky or tactile

[maiden badge]

oh, right, I mean blues

the clicky ones

[sleek bronze]

I find red too heavy, anything more than 35g is too much imo

[muted karma]

speed silvers still are like 1.4mm

1.2mm actually

[chrome raft]

guys I got a huge problem, I don't know how to press the "tilde" key on my keyboard. I hae an epomaker th80 and its in ANSI layout, but that's where the problem is. I am Swedish so I naturally use Swedish keyboard layout but there seems to not be a "tilde" key on here that I can press, I hae been searching for answers for like a hour and I can't find anything helpful.

[chrome raft]

yes but I use swedish layout so when I press it a different symbol comes up (§)

[muted karma]

what layout have you set in your OS?

[chrome raft]

what is OS? 😄

[muted karma]

press ctrl+alt+]

[muted karma]

operating system but you already answered it before my answer went in

[chrome raft]

so CTRL + ALT + TILDE KEY?

[muted karma]

no

ctrl+alt+]

[glossy mica]

ctrl alt ]

[muted karma]

like you would on the swedish layout

[chrome raft]

}

we dont use that symbol lmao

[muted karma]

it is on your layout though

[chrome raft]

i mean we do

but rarely

[muted karma]

that is swedish layout

[chrome raft]

yup

[muted karma]

you have to press the key the same way

[glossy mica]

the key to the left of the 1.5u pipe

[chrome raft]

so the button where the number 9 is?

[glossy mica]

no

[chrome raft]

ah

~~

[glossy mica]

yep there ya go

[chrome raft]

but how am I supposed to game and press that at the same time

that's like impossible

[muted karma]

you rebind the key

lol

[glossy mica]

rebind it lol

do you need to?

like what do you use tilde for

[chrome raft]

weinmining

[cunning anvil]

are you gaming on swedish layout?

[chrome raft]

yh

[cunning anvil]

neat

[muted karma]

or you switch to us layout

[chrome raft]

I was but I realised then that I can't use öäå (if I switch to US layout)

[cunning anvil]

for gaming or chatting?

[chrome raft]

gaming

[cunning anvil]

huh

[muted karma]

I personally got around that with wincompose

so I can just press caps and then a for ä

[chrome raft]

whaaaat

[muted karma]

you can also make longer chains of characters for different symbols

[chrome raft]

sounds like it wincompose might be the answer

[muted karma]

and wincompose does not get flagged by anticheat

like ahk does

[chrome raft]

oh ok, tysm guys -3

[muted karma]

after installing you will have a file like that in your user folder

so in C:\Users\*user*\

[chrome raft]

mhmm

[muted karma]

and you can adjust what it outputs etc in that file

i'd have to look at documentation if you want multiple keys for the different a variations you got in swedish

[chrome raft]

yh

[muted karma]

and you have to set a modifier in wincompose

which I used capslock for

since it is an otherwise useless key for me

[chrome raft]

do I just continue without changing anything here?

[muted karma]

yes

[chrome raft]

ok so I did that, then it just disappeared, what do I do now

[muted karma]

check if it is running

should be in the task bar

[chrome raft]

is there any way I can specificly search for a program to see if it's running

[muted karma]

task manager

or just check if it is in there

[chrome raft]

oh

yh

[muted karma]

then edit the .xcompose file in your usefolder

so you have the binds that you want

go in options

[chrome raft]

mhmm

[muted karma]

and change your compose key

to whatever you want

[chrome raft]

what r these?

[muted karma]

there are some extra key sequences in there

fo some extra symbols

if you doubleclick on the symbol in the task bar it shows you all sequences

[chrome raft]

ok so now that I hae disabled those, am I done now? That simple

[muted karma]

you still need to edit the sequences you want

I personally use german ones

you prob want different ones

[chrome raft]

yh

[muted karma]

since we have different special characters

it's fairly straightforward

[chrome raft]

and I change those special characters in...?

in the user folder?

[muted karma]

the xcompose file in your user folder

you can just edit it with notepad

[chrome raft]

ahhhh

I don't get it

😅

[muted karma]

multi_key is whatever key you set

in my case caps lock

then you have like for example an a

you could add another letter beind the a if you wanted to

so <a> <b>

and then everything behind that double colon is the output

so multikey (caps) and then a will result in ä

[chrome raft]

ah

i first need to switch to us layout, right?

[muted karma]

you can

might be easier to get the special characters in on your native layout

[chrome raft]

then i jsut delete those

and then im done

[muted karma]

sure

if you don't want a € symbol for example

you could obv also add more

just save

test if it works

if not exit it from task bar

and start it again

[chrome raft]

I gotta look up how to change to us layout

my old way doesnt work anymore

nwm

[muted karma]

you add a keyboard

in time and language > language and region

and then going on options on a language

you should be able to add US qwerty for any language

[chrome raft]

this one? I don't hae windows 11

[muted karma]

uhhh

[muted karma]

no that is for entire languages

you don't want a new lanugage

you just want a new keyboard layout

[chrome raft]

oh

here? do I jsut press "add a keyboard"?

[muted karma]

yes

[chrome raft]

which one?

[muted karma]

the one marked in that image

[chrome raft]

ok

my multikey button doesnt work for some reason

[muted karma]

if you press it

does the sumbol in the task bar turn green?

[chrome raft]

no

its the deafult one

right alt

[muted karma]

your keyboard might not have set up right alt properly

can you try rebinding it

[chrome raft]

i just did

[muted karma]

and it still doesn't work?

[chrome raft]

hmm

weird

first time it didnt do anything, just normal characters came up but this time aftrer i rebinded it, no characters at all come out

[chrome raft]

^

[muted karma]

bang for the buck buy the keychrons preassembled

the keycaps are decent quality

the switches are what I would recommend anyways

and it's much cheaper to buy it preassembled than buying them separatley

[chrome raft]

im using diff keyswitches but im debating buying a prebuilt keychron and just swapping caps for now at least

[karmic atlas]

i finished building my keychron v1

[urban panther]

specs?

[karmic atlas]

knob, ansi, very slightly lubed gateron blues, stock stabilizers lubed from factory, random keycaps i found from amaozn

[last kiln]

Anyone know shit about keyboard problems

[karmic atlas]

no

but my keyboard as a problem. the spacebar stabs sound H O R R I B L E

[radiant lodge]

skill issue

[dawn swan]

sounds about right for keychron

[urban panther]

lube those stabs

[amber tartan]

old but gold, durock v2, only 205g spacebar

[sturdy hatch]

Mine do to. I need to take them out and soak + clean them then relube them

[candid void]

are there any good mouses with a ctrl side button

[sleek bronze]

You can take any mouse with a side button and remap it to ctrl

[karmic atlas]

does this sound normal for gateron blues?

[ionic briar]

yes, sound about right for most click jacket yea

[fathom terrace]

i got the k100 corsair for a good price used, but its so fkn sensitive. that said, am used to my chunky membrane keyboard so maybe im just used to resting on my keyboard too much with my hands

i just often accidentally press the space bar and the a button on fps games

[urban panther]

It's extremely light. I stopped using mine because resting my hands on the board was causing so much accidental input

[fathom terrace]

honestly i dont mind having dedicated keyboards. if i have a more looser budget im considering getting a wireless "good feel" keyboard that has good sound and feel, and use this one where response matters

and ngl, compared to my (albeit low) standard of my previous keyboard im much more responsive in games now

[fathom terrace]

maybe a keychron with good price but horrible 11ms delay at best

[urban panther]

Oh I 100% preferred my k100 for fps gaming (optical switches are so nice)

[fathom terrace]

used the microsoft sidewinder before. basically fake mechanical, mechanical "switches" to press a membrane. plus after i cleaned it it sounded and felt really weird. but it was def a more chill keyboard. with this one i have to constantly worry about making typos

it was never this sensitive tho, but if just for the sake of getting used to it ill keep using the k100

[long turtle]

hello is the razer huntsman mini a good keyborad?

[amber tartan]

not really

[karmic atlas]

why did i even get these switches

[urban panther]

Which ones

[karmic atlas]

gateron blue

my gateron blacks sounded so nice with my keyboard but they were taken from my old 60% keyboard

[urban panther]

lmao

why did you get blues

[karmic atlas]

my first mechanical keyboard had cherry mx blues and i loved them

but gateron blues sound so hollow

the click is not as satisfying

[unkempt dome]

Then get kailh box jade

That is satisfying

[urban panther]

Yes

[amber tartan]

rumors of a jane v3

we are so fucking back?

[boreal rivet]

hope its actually worth the hype this time 😔

[glossy sandal]

gb completion 2026 🏂

[amber tartan]

too optimistic

[amber tartan]

apparently its the same thing but the back is cleaner now with a magnetic back plate

and maybe f12 this time

[boreal rivet]

That’s stupid

[amber tartan]

@glossy sandal look at what i found tho :^)))

goes along with my harb

but only on taobao

[boreal rivet]

Skill issue

[amber tartan]

skill solution: superbuy

[boreal rivet]

Superbuy is cringe tbh

Y’all us people don’t realise how much they fuck you

[amber tartan]

im not from america lol

and i could also just ask my relatives in hong kong to ship it to me

[boreal rivet]

Doesn’t Taobao have direct shipping to hk

Ah wait

[amber tartan]

yeah taobao to hk, then to me, in australia

[boreal rivet]

They ship directly to aus no

[amber tartan]

nope

only mainland

(not taiwan)

[boreal rivet]

Have you checked?

A bunch of other countries have direct shipping

And google says Australia is included lol

[amber tartan]

i think thats only taobao global

taobao local only ship mainland

[glossy sandal]

oh my gawd!!!

[glossy sandal]

you always hating we gotta squabble