peripherals

[chrome raft]

Also, do MechWild has a store in the EU ?

[glass jolt]

these sparkfun pro micro rp2040's are drop in replacements for pro micros/elite c, correct? is there a better recommendation for wired splits? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09KDS6CGN

[pseudo owl]

It is

wow thats great

it blocked my message

Just look up what FR4 stands for

[chrome raft]

I did

[chrome raft]

(also I'm french, and here fr usually mean brother, it's part of my confusion)

[arctic shuttle]

At least you didn't get banned this time

Wait that was Acaer

[grizzled quiver]

FR4 is plastic

[muted karma]

FR4 is glass fiber and epoxy

not plastic

[grizzled quiver]

Epoxy is… plastic

[muted karma]

ig yea?

[grizzled quiver]

FR4 is basically the fire resistant variant of G10

[muted karma]

but just calling it plastic is pretty uhhh

broad

gl making a PCB on "plastic"

[grizzled quiver]

Plastic is still plastic.

[muted karma]

time to order PCBs on an ABS substrate

[grizzled quiver]

PCBs are different those use sheets of copper between sheets of fiber reinforced plastic.

[muted karma]

they use sheets of copper on FR4

FR4 = plastic

[grizzled quiver]

You could do that, although not recommended.

[muted karma]

as you said

[grizzled quiver]

Because it is lmao

[muted karma]

gl etching that

[grizzled quiver]

I used FR4 as a 3D printing surface before. Lol

PLA sticks very well to it

[muted karma]

legit only decent keyboard company that I know that just ordered something as "plastic" is duck

it ended up being something PC-ish

[grizzled quiver]

I see

[muted karma]

also rip duck

[grizzled quiver]

Lolz

[muted karma]

last good korean OG

they quit officially like last year

[grizzled quiver]

Rip

[boreal rivet]

hard to keep up with chinese labour 😔

[arctic shuttle]

And plywood is still wood but I wouldn't use it as framing members. Using umbrella terms to describe something that is not used in the same function as the product is intended is very dangerous

[glossy mica]

Just bc you can doesn’t mean you should

[glossy mica]

Got some jc studio caps in, little better than shenpo

[warped tinsel]

any suggestions on keyboard size for next keyboard I hate this full sized one I got

[glossy mica]

Tkl

[warped tinsel]

was thinking between tkl or 65

[glossy mica]

F keys are a nice to have

Could get a 75 if you’re strapped for desk space

[warped tinsel]

might the the keychron q1 pro

[urban panther]

I want the Q3 Pro

[warped tinsel]

I didnt know there was a q3 pro

[chrome raft]

howdy, I want to cnc keycaps out of wood, do somebody has suggestions of wich wood would be good ? that ain't stupid expensive if possible

[arctic shuttle]

Bamboo gonna be your only option here due to how thin the walls need to be. And good luck

Unless you wanna drop 3k on African Bloodwood

[chrome raft]

can I cnc that ?

[boreal rivet]

Not financially feasible don’t bother

[arctic shuttle]

Probably not, CNC wood as thin as keycaps need to be to function properly, well, there's a reason you don't see maple hardwood keycaps

You compromise structural stability

[chrome raft]

that's sad, I have a hard wood case, and it would have been nice to have keycap that's also wooden

[arctic shuttle]

You can buy bamboo keys iirc

Not sure where

[chrome raft]

ok, also, i'm looking for a keycap set for this, for less than 50$, that's not wood

[arctic shuttle]

I don't know any sub $50 keycaps that are good outside shenpo

[chrome raft]

I don't know that

[chrome raft]

do they have a site ?

[arctic shuttle]

You get them on Ali Express

[chrome raft]

I'm going to see on amazon first, because I don't want to pay 50$ of shipping + importation taxes

do you know if keychron does good keycap sets ? it's basicly the only one I tried, so idk if they are good compared to the rest for the price

[warped tinsel]

is there a keychrone q3 pro

[chrome raft]

(sorry for the ghost ping, my cat walked on my keyboard)

[warped tinsel]

I thought i saw some talk about it but dont see on website

[chrome raft]

then no

[arctic shuttle]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q3-pro-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard

[chrome raft]

what is the big switch on the side ?

[warped tinsel]

woah that looks much diff with the macros on the side

[arctic shuttle]

A kknob?

[warped tinsel]

didnt expect it to have such large knob as well

[chrome raft]

oh its a knob, I thought it was like a joystick or whatever, it is quite a bit thicker than most knobs

[arctic shuttle]

Keychron is going through One+ syndrome where they are forgetting there place in the community

[warped tinsel]

well I might just get the q1 pro then

not a fan of the macro and large knob

[chrome raft]

what do you mean ?

[arctic shuttle]

Keychron pride themselves on quality, inexpensive, budget friendly keyboards. $215 for something with a big ass knob isn't exactly budget

[chrome raft]

yeah, I guess it depends on who you ask, i'm sure somebody who is used to 3000$ keyboards will find this very budget

[arctic shuttle]

I have some very expensive keyboards, this still isn't budget

[chrome raft]

what do you use has keyboard ?

[arctic shuttle]

I swap between my 1/1 factory cerekoted Gentleman65, my Charon65, and my CherryB Neo87

[chrome raft]

is a 850$ keyboard really worth the price ?

[arctic shuttle]

Well the Charon last sold for over 1k, and I enjoy it alot

To me, I'll gladly support a design I enjoy regardless of price

[chrome raft]

yeah, personnaly I like expensive stuff, I have a 50k headphones, but at conventions I am not really able to see the difference sometimes between expensive keyboards (with the same switches)

[chrome raft]

are their keycaps good too ?

[arctic shuttle]

They are okay at best

Ooooo

[chrome raft]

what makes a better keycap better ?

[arctic shuttle]

Higher quality plastic, more constant typing sound, slight texture

[chrome raft]

is the wobble of the keycaps the problem of the switches or the keycaps ?

[arctic shuttle]

Switches

[chrome raft]

also, I have headphones all the time, and I don't have finger prints and lost half of the sensitibility on the end of my finger after I tryied blacksmithing, so i'm ok with keychron keycaps

[chrome raft]

also, do you have suggestions for switches ? I only ever tried cherry brown

[glossy mica]

very few keyboards are $850

most boards you see for that price are being sold for higher than they were bought for bc of aftermarket value

[chrome raft]

that's not really the point, what I wanted to say is that I don't get why you would spend over 300$ on a keyboard

[glossy mica]

you value the craftsmanship, finishing, design, sound/feel, designer themselves

[arctic shuttle]

And I like Charue board (even though they made a scum)

[glossy mica]

Charue

[chrome raft]

also, side question, what are your favorite switches ?

[glossy mica]

mx blacks

[chrome raft]

it's a linear right ?

[glossy mica]

yeah

I spring swap and lube them

[chrome raft]

personaly i'm not a fan of linears

[glossy mica]

i cant type on tactiles for more than 5 mintues

[arctic shuttle]

Durock Mambas

[warped tinsel]

why dont the keychron pro keyboards use a dongle

insead ot just regular bluetooth

[arctic shuttle]

Cause typically people are going to be using the keyboard that sits on their desk wired, Bluetooth is just a bonus and a dongle you don't need to worry about losing

[warped tinsel]

I guess so

[arctic shuttle]

The Bluetooth is a convenience thing more than anything else

[warped tinsel]

I just wanted a wirless one for when I plug my pc into my tv lol

cuz using the remote pc app on my phone is a bit scuffed

[arctic shuttle]

You could get a Bluetooth pcie unit

[warped tinsel]

i Have bluetooth

It came with my motherboard

[arctic shuttle]

Could get a long USBC cable

[warped tinsel]

I will prob still just get the q pro

q1*

I just wish the q3 pro didnt have all those macro keys I would have gotten if it didnt have those

[arctic shuttle]

$220 for a glorified TKL, prebuilt, from a budget oriented company, is objectively a waste of money. Sorry but people don't look at Honda and expect it to be a Mercedes

[magic wolf]

The car metaphors

KB Enthusiasts, never change

[serene obsidian]

Personally I am glad they opt for Bluetooth instead of a dongle because keyboard manufacturers have a terrible habit of cutting costs on the dongle. Connectivity is very often not much better than Bluetooth and they all use the same shitty dongle design, and it's always super tight-fitting in the USB port and eventually the plastic shell falls off and you have to pull the dongle out with pliers

Don't know if anyone else has noticed this on cheap mice and keyboards

Logitech dongles are built fairly well though

[marble dock]

Any thoughts on a set of good feeling tactiles? Im on a budget

[median slate]

boys

i got some new swithes

i ant type bruh

also for some reason I have to fully bottom out my, "C" key to get it to atuate

actuate

just a faulty switch

[arctic shuttle]

Jwick T1's

[arctic shuttle]

I thought I was the only one lol

[boreal rivet]

Trash

Topre better

[arctic shuttle]

You are silly

Are you

[boreal rivet]

It’s true 🙂

Nah just better

It doesn’t need some stupid 500$ case nor 150 dollar keycaps to sound good

[lucid leaf]

What caps do you all recommend? Thinking about swapping mine. Got a Keychron K4 with browns

[simple ibex]

Just picked up my Keychron Q3 with Kailh Midnight Pros (silent linear). So far I'm liking them

But I think they're a bit over lubed and needs some breaking into. So, I'll probably know better in a week or two

If you like browns in terms of force, but want linear, then look to reds

[glossy mica]

A lot of topre sounds god awful

The best topre is stock

[boreal rivet]

stock topre is good

but silenced is fine too

tho imagine actually caring about how your keyboard sounds 💀

[glossy mica]

Imagine caring about one of the three things that actually matter in a keyboard 💀

[boreal rivet]

sound literally doesn't matter but stay on dat cope tho

[glossy mica]

yes im coping bc I care about how my keyboard sounds

making no sense

[boreal rivet]

you place importance in it when it really doesn't matter, sounds like cope to me

[arctic shuttle]

SOund matters, I ain't trying to piss of my wife

[boreal rivet]

then use silents

problem solved

[glossy mica]

bc you are the sole judge of if smth matters

why do you use a keyboard thats more than $5

sounds like cope to me

[boreal rivet]

if you stopped and objectively thought about when the chasing your ideal keyboard sound impacts anything in your life other than finances then maybe you would understand where I'm coming from 🤷‍♀️

[boreal rivet]

because I value key feel duh

even an idiot could figure that out

[glossy mica]

you've clearly never heard of a luxury

[boreal rivet]

luxury keyboard sound

[glossy mica]

So if I say that key feel means nothing to me, then that means you're coping too?

its a dumb argument

[boreal rivet]

does it?

[glossy mica]

people like what they like lol

[boreal rivet]

does the keyfeel of my keyboard affect how I type

yes

apples to oranges

sure people can like what they like

doesn't make it not stupid as shit

[glossy mica]

does your typing speed affect your daily life

I very highly doubt it

[boreal rivet]

keyfeel at the very least contributes to something?

like I said apples to oranges

[glossy mica]

does it tho

besides spending time on monkeytype

[boreal rivet]

have you ever heard of quality of life

[glossy mica]

lmao now you get it

good job

[boreal rivet]

how your keyboard sounds isn't a QOL thing

[simple ibex]

Ergonomics for one. Also keys that contribute to better rhythm, hence accuracy, improves work-flow via less frustration

[glossy mica]

it literally is tho

[boreal rivet]

tell me when in your life you actually sit down and just listen to your keyboard as you type

[glossy mica]

who does that regardless

even just typing

[boreal rivet]

oh so now you get it

[glossy mica]

people don't buy luxury watches and just stare at them

[boreal rivet]

they don't buy luxury watches based on how the crown or beats sound either

[glossy mica]

imma use your own saying

apples to oranges

[boreal rivet]

your point of luxury watches applies as well

there is no equivalent for how a keyboard sounds in watches

[glossy mica]

everything has different qualities

[boreal rivet]

if your argument was people buy keyboards to display like how they do watches

then sure

thats fair

[glossy mica]

no

a lot of people buy watches bc of the confidence it gives them

the feeling of a premium product

[boreal rivet]

I never said they didn't

[glossy mica]

like any object of clothing

it makes you feel good

[boreal rivet]

if you want to talk about the feeling of a premium product

how would you use keyboard sound as a metric of premium-ness

your crowd loves to say its all preference

[glossy mica]

its not the premium aspect

its the feel good aspect

[boreal rivet]

feel good for like a week 💀

[glossy mica]

whatchu on about

[arctic shuttle]

... what?

[boreal rivet]

have you ever heard of the honeymoon period?

[glossy mica]

ive been in the hobby long enough to know what I like

[simple ibex]

My error, didn't intend to respond to you. Must have had your comment selected

[arctic shuttle]

All good my guy

Keyboards are functional art btw, so like.....

[boreal rivet]

and yet you keep chasing that ideal

[glossy mica]

I dont tho

I already have it

[boreal rivet]

do you?

[glossy mica]

but if im buying a new board im gonna consider the way it sounds into my purchasing decision

[boreal rivet]

if you already have it then why would you buy another one?

[arctic shuttle]

Why not?

[glossy mica]

bc I like keyboards?

[boreal rivet]

lmao

[arctic shuttle]

Imagine asking someone why they have a hobby

[boreal rivet]

real consumerism moment

[arctic shuttle]

Not even remotely close to consumerism

[glossy mica]

I could care less tbh

If I have the money to spend on a keyobard, im gonna take everything into account before buything that keyboard

[simple ibex]

You can sell keyboard used. But you should clean them first so they don't have debris under the keys and other nasty bits

[glossy mica]

why would I compromise

Ive sold a few boards

[arctic shuttle]

Like why would you buy a house when a trailer does the same thing

Dumb question

[boreal rivet]

thats not even a good analogy

[arctic shuttle]

Tell a hobbyist to stop investing in their hobby, man, what a zinger

[serene obsidian]

If I'm gonna spend all day at work typing, I want it to be a semi-pleasurable experience

[amber tartan]

its a dub

[simple ibex]

Should probably hide that tracking number ^

Just sayin

[amber tartan]

no i dont you cant o anything with that information

[arctic shuttle]

Coming to my house now, Japan post --> USPS

[glossy mica]

if it makes you feel better, I would also never buy a keyboard that I hated typing on even if it sounded amazing to me

[amber tartan]

besides view the location of the city

[boreal rivet]

when you already own your endgame why would you keep spending?

and investing?

really?

[amber tartan]

which is displayed incorrectly for some reason.

[serene obsidian]

See: audiophiles

[boreal rivet]

you're a clown fucking hell

[arctic shuttle]

Why would you have a hobby then?

Why not just purchase something once and be donw with it

[boreal rivet]

to get something good out of it?

[simple ibex]

Audiophiles are full of nutballs

[glossy mica]

I like this hobby

[boreal rivet]

not every hobby is like plastic modeling

[arctic shuttle]

Good, you answered your own question

[boreal rivet]

you don't have to keep buying things

keyboards are not consumables

[arctic shuttle]

They are art

Functional art

[simple ibex]

The cheap ones are.

[glossy mica]

thats why I dont waste what I have and sell it to people who want it

recycle

[simple ibex]

Those cheap plastic ones from Dell and HP for example. Trash

[boreal rivet]

you're speaking as if every custom is a work of art

we both know thats not true

[arctic shuttle]

Define art

[boreal rivet]

can you?

[arctic shuttle]

Ya but I asked you

[glossy mica]

2 of my boards also have a completely custom element to it

that nobody else has

so id say that contributes to why I would get it

listen dude

[boreal rivet]

ok sure. unique, inspired, history, passion

[arctic shuttle]

What?

[glossy mica]

if all you value is typing feel and you enjoy your one keyboard that I assume you're good with, thats completely fine

[boreal rivet]

thats what art is to me

[arctic shuttle]

So is my 1/1 keyboard art?

[boreal rivet]

does it meet those requirements?

[arctic shuttle]

You tell me

[boreal rivet]

show it to me

tell me how it came about

[arctic shuttle]

It was created with the sense of elegance and simplicity

Ease of access and customizability for the endgame user

[boreal rivet]

that doesn't sound particularly inspired or unique but ok

[arctic shuttle]

Inspired through a sense of elegance and simplicity?

Seems like inspiration to me

[boreal rivet]

ok sure is it unique?

and I don't mean it's rarity

[arctic shuttle]

Per the manufacturer, yes

[median slate]

is there any way I can turn a non screw in stab pcb, able to have screw in stabs?

[boreal rivet]

but in it's design?

[glossy mica]

Here’s the unique elements of my boards. A 65 xt layout that’s never been done before and an engraving that’s based on my personal life

[arctic shuttle]

Factory cerekoted a 1/1 color, design itself isnt unique to other board of its manufacturing

[boreal rivet]

so its just 1/1 because its in a special colour?

[arctic shuttle]

Yup, still unique

[median slate]

What are your favoritwe switches/your daily drivers currently?

[boreal rivet]

not really, whats it called

[glossy mica]

All my boards rn have mx blacks

[boreal rivet]

a special colour isn't that unique

[arctic shuttle]

Still unique

[boreal rivet]

anyone can just send it off for cerakote

[glossy mica]

And opblacks/sp stars on mods I don’t like

[arctic shuttle]

Not from factory

[boreal rivet]

unique enough to be called art?

[arctic shuttle]

Anything can be considered art

[median slate]

That seems slightly unusual, how many boards doy you have?

[arctic shuttle]

Art is subjective

[glossy mica]

4

[median slate]

Okay, thats something I have never personally seen before, and I've never use blacks, so I shouldn't be to quick to judge

[boreal rivet]

meh whatever lol

[glossy mica]

Lol

[boreal rivet]

you want me to judge your keyboard yet you don't want to tell me what it is

[glossy mica]

Mx blacks are just unique to any other switch sound wise

[boreal rivet]

and then say all art is subjective

when you're asking for my opinion

[arctic shuttle]

Ya i take it back, I don;t really care

[glossy mica]

And I’ve found it’s an easy solution

[median slate]

What kind of a thoccc is it?

[boreal rivet]

good

[glossy mica]

It’s not a “thoccc”

[boreal rivet]

less time wasted for both of us 🤷‍♀️

[median slate]

Oh?

[glossy mica]

It’s more high pitched

[arctic shuttle]

Facts, I ain't gonna change your mind

[median slate]

So a thack would be fitting?

[glossy mica]

Lmao

[arctic shuttle]

Clack my boy

The word is clack

[median slate]

Ah, yees, apologies

[glossy mica]

I don’t like to use catch all terms for sound

Low pitch-> high pitch
Flat -> Full

Is usually how I describe keeb sound

[median slate]

I see

I've personally gotten some new switches today, they sound wonderous

[glossy mica]

Noice which ones

[median slate]

Don't judge, Gateron Milky Yellow Pros

[glossy mica]

But yeah mx blacks usually sound good in whatever keeb I use and I just let the natural differences in the board itself to get a different experience

Why would I judge

[median slate]

They have a very low, deep thocky sound that is both criso and creamy

[median slate]

They're not really considered a super "premium" switch from what I have heard in the custom keyboarding community, because of how cheap they are

[glossy mica]

I basically only buy cheap switches

[median slate]

You make a good point

[glossy mica]

I bought some ktt roses on taobao a couple weeks ago

100 for $16

[median slate]

Damn, they are REALLY cheap

Milky Yellow Pros are $4.20USD-18

From divinikey

[glossy mica]

If I were to buy 100 of a different switch for $65, I’d be losing $50 on smth pointless to me when I could put that towards a keyset

[median slate]

Makes sense

[glossy mica]

They even came in this container lol

[median slate]

Tub 'O Switch

[glossy mica]

Actually the money I saved from buying ktts completely covered the JC studio caps I bought

[median slate]

Aight bet, cab I see you daily?

[glossy mica]

This is the board I use the most

[median slate]

CLEAAAAAN

[glossy mica]

It’s my favorite for sure

[median slate]

I notice you don't have a WIN key, or an FN key?

[glossy mica]

I actually have it bound on the right alt and ctrl

The blocker is just for aesthetics

My bottom row is:
Ctrl alt space fn win

[median slate]

I see

Makes sense

I shall return shortly

[glossy mica]

Yeah some people use winkey a lot more than me so they need the extra keys but yeah

Cya

[median slate]

If you had an unlimited budget, what would be your dream keeb?

[glossy mica]

I think I already have my “dream” keeb

But I like having multiple

Different layouts, aesthetic

[median slate]

You wouldnt take anything else?

[glossy mica]

I do have my eyes on one atm

[median slate]

Oh?

[median slate]

Are the switches the same?

[glossy mica]

These aren’t my pics

I’d plan to use GMK yeeti on it and these switches that I got from a trade

[amber tartan]

vita revita'd

[glossy mica]

Vita but frl

[amber tartan]

matrix boards are pretty mid except for the 8x series

[glossy mica]

This is the first one I’ve liked

Besides the falcon but I don’t like hhkb layout

[amber tartan]

yeah falcons also k but not a big fan of hhkb

[glass jolt]

Hmm. Got my new switches today. But I think I have an imposter.

[amber tartan]

howd that slip in

[glass jolt]

vender slipped it in.

trying to figure out which one it is. cant find it. it's pretty clicky. somewhere around 50-60gf ish

[glass jolt]

ah. Kailh Box Autumns. had to ask around to find that.

[muted karma]

I think with most of them it is less budget and more finding it

[median slate]

thats fair

[muted karma]

my personal endgame for example is the F1-8X

obv there are improvements that could be made to that board

[median slate]

yeye

[gloomy patrol]

Pretty board

[muted karma]

but the versions that came after so far have all been worse than the original

[gloomy patrol]

I’d love to own a pc bottom f1 one day

[muted karma]

💀

[median slate]

i mean, i just upgraded my keyboard again today

[muted karma]

worst version

[median slate]

apolyfill and new switches

[muted karma]

F1 isn't a super versatile board

it has essentially one way to build it "right"

aka

ignore all plate options

and choose the original v1 alu plate

or the v1.1 one that later got made

[gloomy patrol]

And you think the other versions are significantly better?

[muted karma]

that is just the v1 with better ISO support and a fix to keep a tab from bending

[muted karma]

yea alu bottom sounds better

[median slate]

PLEASE

ASTRO NO

[gloomy patrol]

No what?

[muted karma]

the original round feet one came with the best plate

but you can get a v1.1 plate and put it in the square feet F1

[gloomy patrol]

I’m j curious

[median slate]

You are going to start something massive please

[muted karma]

722 has less internal space

more than F2 though

which makes it sound flatter

F1-8X v2 should be good, but we will see

[gloomy patrol]

F1 8x v2 looked v promising

[muted karma]

the F1 "ecosystem" is just really funny

[gloomy patrol]

Probably won’t have the money for it at the time

[muted karma]

because there are a TON of build options

[gloomy patrol]

Are you gon get in on it?

[muted karma]

but most of them suck

I'm considering it

[median slate]

ive just got a hella modded RD Draconic Proo 💀

[muted karma]

will 100% get an F1 FE though

[median slate]

please for the love of god

[gloomy patrol]

Still can’t believe he’s gon make it that cheap

[median slate]

ive seen so may people fight in this server

;-;

[muted karma]

injection molding be like

[median slate]

iwas one

[gloomy patrol]

Ion think we’re fighting

[muted karma]

basically if you want anything but the alu v1.1 or the plateless one just buy literally any other board

[median slate]

they start like this

[gloomy patrol]

What’s the time line on it again

[muted karma]

and you are prob better off

[median slate]

a genuine conversation

[muted karma]

don't think it has one

[median slate]

then BAM, mayhem

[gloomy patrol]

I j remember like 2 screen shots

[muted karma]

[gloomy patrol]

I should go find them again rq

[muted karma]

oh

I only remember 1

[median slate]

are Gateron Milky Yellow Pros valid?

[muted karma]

yea

if you want something with like 0 effort modding, great choice

[muted karma]

this very grainy render

[median slate]

this feels oddly passive aggresive

[muted karma]

no like genuinly

good switch

the new v3 version has the right materials even

[gloomy patrol]

still pissed i missed the stream

[median slate]

thats the pure white ones, right?

the $4.20USD-18?

[gloomy patrol]

pain

i thought we would have a bit more info out

[muted karma]

w8

[gloomy patrol]

haven't kept up with geon as much as I should have recently

[muted karma]

https://gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-3x47-switch-set?VariantsId=10605

these

[median slate]

shit

[muted karma]

black bottom milky top

is the best gat yellow

[median slate]

i ordered the wrong one xd

[muted karma]

rip

well

still fine

mainly is a difference in sound

[median slate]

its the fully milky housing

[muted karma]

yea the reg gat pro 3.0

[median slate]

yeye

im turing this regular 60 dollar 60% into a full beast ass keeb

itsgoing well so far

[gloomy patrol]

enjoy

[muted karma]

a full beast ass keeb

[median slate]

bruh idfk how to describve it

it sounds good, but my phone audio quality is shit

very thock

i have some 205g0 in the mail, along with some new stabs

[median slate]

also

my bare swithes look fire

[simple flax]

is anyone here good at usina via w keyboards

i need help setting up a macro in via on my tofu65 2.0

[junior condor]

yo my space bar is activating even though im pressing it like the slightest is there a way to fix it without like replacing the switches

[magic wolf]

You can get a lighter spacebar

[magic wolf]

You can clean out the stabilizers, esp if you recently lubed them or w/e

[chrome raft]

Why ?

[muted karma]

cleaning stabilizers is not fixing an overly sensitive switch

[magic wolf]

Booi I’m just pointing out the easy stuff

[muted karma]

if it activates before the key is depressed by the amount it shouldd be, check if it does so with the keycap removed

[muted karma]

it is completely unrelated though

[magic wolf]

I’ma laugh if he stuffed his space with tape

[muted karma]

"if your pc doesn't turn on check if your door is open"

[muted karma]

or foam

or like

keycap just didn't seat correctly

[magic wolf]

Overly lubed stabs can seriously fuck with the spacebar actually resetting but ok

Also haha another car metaphor

[junior condor]

it just arrived today

[magic wolf]

What is with this channel

[muted karma]

yea but it would then still be depressed the right amount

[magic wolf]

Well what is it

[junior condor]

Ziyoulang k68

budget keyboard

[muted karma]

yea check this

[junior condor]

ye doing it now

[muted karma]

does it just activate when actually depressed

if that is the case and it returns normally it's just your thumb resting too hard on it

[magic wolf]

I got really used to the linear optical switch, it was a nightmare at first with similar issue, except for me was just holding shift or tapping caps accidentally

[junior condor]

yea its still the same without the keycap

[muted karma]

but is the distance right

[junior condor]

wym. like it goes like 2 mm down and it presses

i can show a video if needed

[muted karma]

yea so it functions correctly

aka

it's just your thumb resting on it too hard

[junior condor]

is there a way to change it?

[magic wolf]

Hahahaha a#

You can change, yourself.

You can get used to it

[junior condor]

yea

2nd option sounds nice

ight thanks tho 👍

[magic wolf]

Give it a month. You’ll be at the same Wpm as before, give it two months. You’ll begin to really like it

[junior condor]

yea i mean it sounds so much better than my last keyboard

[chrome raft]

Howdy, I'm looking for new switches, and I found the glorious pandas, and I wondered if somebody could give me an opinion on it

[muted karma]

overpriced and bs marketing

[chrome raft]

Well that pretty one sided, do you have a suggestion for another tactile switche ?

[muted karma]

gazzew u4t?

[muted karma]

there genuinley is not much positive I can say about glorious

their best attempts at products were all half baked at best

and either overshadowed on release or quickly after

[chrome raft]

I'm going to look it up

[amber tartan]

durock t1s are also pretty solid though may need films

[chrome raft]

?

[chrome raft]

I watched some reviews of it, they say it's a D/rounded bump, what do they mean by that ?

[amber tartan]

t1 is also a tactile, films are a mod you can apply to switches to improve wobble that can change its sound profile to more muted and consistent

[muted karma]

that it is not a sharp tactile (to be fair no mx tactile really is) with a tactile bump that reaches from top to bottom

aka the switch really only wants to rest either at the top or bottom

[daring imp]

Question, with keyboard and how some say like 20 Million key presses, does that mean EACH key can take 20 million before it starts to have issues or is it the amount of times a key is pressed on the keyboard total?

Because I’m playing a fighting game with my keyboard and I wanted to know if I should be worried about a faster deterioration of the keyboard if it were keyboard wide rather than for each key. (I searched online and I couldn’t get a straight answer)

[muted karma]

they mean each key

but don't expect those numbers to be actually reliable

[daring imp]

Ok cool, I was less worried about the number more of it was keyboard wide or for each key

Thanks

[arctic shuttle]

Zealous, T1's, Sunflowers, Kailh Copper, Holy Panda's, all these have a fairly sharp tactile bump

[muted karma]

due to how they generate tactility they are all kinda round lol

tactile leafs like in alps designs can be much sharper

[arctic shuttle]

If you have a +70g spring ya, bring it down to 55g and it will become sharper

[muted karma]

it will become more pronounced

not sharper though

[muted karma]

bruh

mx tactile gray is prob the worst switch made in the entire line

combines the bad elements of mx clears and browns

[arctic shuttle]

Are we, are we using the same greys?

[muted karma]

they made 2 kinds of grays

linear and tactile

tactile grey is just an mx brown with a heavy af spring

heavier than an mx black

apparently there also was a clicky grey one

but stupid rare

[muted karma]

which ones do you think of lol

[arctic shuttle]

SS greys, tactile

[muted karma]

ss grey?

can you like

[arctic shuttle]

Spring Swapped

[muted karma]

so uhhh

mx tactile greys?

or wdym

[arctic shuttle]

Yes

Spring Swapped MX Greys

[muted karma]

you sure you don't mean clears?

otherwise you mean a switch that only appears on some boards purely as a spacebar switch

aka

[arctic shuttle]

Extracted from vint boards, no no I mean greys]

[muted karma]

once per board

yea uhhh

just use mx browns

[arctic shuttle]

Nah homie

[muted karma]

ah

nvm

[arctic shuttle]

Not the same kinda clout

[muted karma]

same curve as a clear

apparently

[arctic shuttle]

It's a clear with a heavy spring

[muted karma]

aka

a worse clear

[arctic shuttle]

Thats why you spring swap them

[muted karma]

at least hirose switches have actual physical differences that isn't just different masterbatch

[arctic shuttle]

I like my german engineering

[muted karma]

bruh

they are the same as a clear

same company

as a german I can proudly say that cherry stock weightings are bad

[arctic shuttle]

I wanna make a joke but idk how it's gonna go over

[glossy mica]

If only cherry switches had good springs

[muted karma]

mx ergo clears still crack me up

[glossy mica]

Why

[muted karma]

no new tooling

just a different spring

that still sucks

only mx switch that didn't get the HG update

[glossy mica]

oh yeah

[viscid tapir]

what are some tactile switches with pretravel in bump

like mx browns and ergo clears

[deep forum]

Hey guys, a bit weird but has anyone here had experience with WS Silent Tactiles/Linears or the Haimu Heartbeats? Basically I want to try some silent switches in my complete shift from my first mech keyboard which was a razer blackwidow with razer greens. Currently I'm using Cherry Browns

I'm completely new to this so I apologize in advance for my ignorance

[chrome raft]

Hello again, I'm looking for a lubing station and lube for it, if you have suggestions

[glossy mica]

I can sell you my kbdfans one for cheap if you're in the US

won't include the brushes and stuff but you can get that yourself for cheap

[chrome raft]

I'm in eu... In France, so idk

[glossy mica]

Ah rip

[chrome raft]

How much is it to ship from USA to France ? (Because last time I shipped something to USA it was more expensive to go fr->USA than the other way around for the same thing)

[simple flax]

can someone help describe to me the feel of carbon fiber, brass, and fr4 plates

[chrome raft]

Sound or touch ?

[glossy mica]

it would be fairly cheap I think

lemme get an estimate

[simple flax]

feel

and sound ig

[chrome raft]

Ok, thanks

[simple flax]

am basically looking for the sound of pc plate but a little less flexy

pom would be another option for me

[glossy mica]

eh nvm its $25

any non plastic plate will be drastically more stiff

[chrome raft]

Well, I can help with that (exepct FR4, never touched that thing) for brass, just go touch a fork, and carbon fiber, would be squished fibers basically

[simple flax]

i mean typing feel lol

[glossy mica]

lmao

[simple flax]

like is it rigid or flexy

[chrome raft]

Well, it will be the same with kbd fan, so on my side it's kinda the same

[glossy mica]

very rigid

[simple flax]

does it sound at all similar to pc?

[glossy mica]

cf, fr4, alu, and brass are stiff plates

out of all the plates I would say cf is the most comparable sound wise

[chrome raft]

Seems a bit more logic, cause I mean, I don't judge people when they ask stuff, I saw odd things in the past where they where dead serious about it, so I stopped asking myself questions

[simple flax]

ok, so if i want a stiff feel but sound profile like pc

would pom or fr4 be better?

[glossy mica]

cf

[limpid oyster]

fr4/cf would be your best bet.

[chrome raft]

How much would you sell your lub station ?

[glossy mica]

like $15 prob

[chrome raft]

Yeah, their shipping is 19$ for it, so I think I will buy it from them, because it would only save me a few $, sorry

[glossy mica]

np

[chrome raft]

Ok

[simple flax]

https://ilumkb.com/ has extra zoom75 plates

[glossy sandal]

couple plates

[simple flax]

fr4 is one of them so im happy

no more keyboard sinking in 2 inches with each keypress

[glossy sandal]

anything for bouncy marble thlacks

[simple flax]

fr4 is still thlacks tho

[abstract raft]

rate my wrist rest

[limpid oyster]

ngl, you might have some problems in the long run reaching so far forward. Not saying its a BAD wrist rest, but think about your shoulders and pick up something with less depth lol

[abstract raft]

ITS HIGHt adjustable

[limpid oyster]

height =/= depth....

[abstract raft]

10/10 recomend 🤣

[abstract raft]

Its fineeee

I gave it a 5 star review on amazon

[glossy sandal]

1/1

[abstract raft]

Thanks for the 100 percent :gleam:

[glossy sandal]

ye

[glossy mica]

New board fo today

[glossy sandal]

Kei?

Those bezels seem familiar

[glossy mica]

pp60

[glossy sandal]

Oh bowl design

neat

[glossy mica]

Ye

Got it cerakoted bc the polished ano was kinda scuffed lol

[glossy sandal]

Looks nice

Optimal 60% layout too ‼️

[glossy mica]

fr

[abstract raft]

Just turn it upside down for 0 depth

[limpid oyster]

I still cant do a winkeyless board. Even though a lot of the popular ones these days are

[glossy mica]

rebinding my best friend

[glossy sandal]

Rebind to right alt

or left ctrl, rebind ctrl to caps lock

nobody uses caps lock anyway

[glossy mica]

my bottom row for all my wkl boards is:
ctrl alt space fn win

[limpid oyster]

I use caps lock >.<

[glossy sandal]

make it a shortcut!

[limpid oyster]

I do data analytics and the field names my client uses are all caps for some stupid af reason

[glossy sandal]

left of blocker fn

mines always bonded to where right ctrl would be

[abstract raft]

Who uses right shift?

[glossy mica]

not me

[abstract raft]

Learn typing etiquette mate. Right shift is for all capital letters that are typed with your left hand

[glossy mica]

no

im left handed so

[abstract raft]

Still the same3

[limpid oyster]

Dont think i have ever used right shift in my life, Its always contort my hands to make it work, never do it the right way.

[abstract raft]

Do you have chronic finger pains?

[limpid oyster]

Only customer pains

[glossy mica]

nah

[glossy sandal]

typing etiquette doesn’t really matter as long as you’re comfortable

It’s just a guideline

[abstract raft]

Still use right shift. You will get chronic finger pains if you type for an extended time.

[abstract raft]

It DOES

[glossy sandal]

I can reach left shift with my pinky, I don’t need to go away from alphas to press right shift if I don’t need to

[abstract raft]

Have fun getting chronic finger pain.

[glossy sandal]

which is admittedly a lot more work than lifting my pinky

[abstract raft]

Its jsut learnign something new

Sorry for spelling, my new wrist rest sucks.

[glossy sandal]

Have fun getting rsi

wrist rests aren’t for when you’re typing

they’re for when you’re done, hence the “rest”

proper etiquette would be to type having your hands floating

[abstract raft]

They rest your wrist WHILE you are typing.

[abstract raft]

You will get Carpeltunnel.

[glossy mica]

you're wrong

wrist rests aren't meant to be used while typing

[abstract raft]

Let me ask Bing GPT

[glossy sandal]

[gloomy patrol]

not the bing gpt

[glossy sandal]

what’s up astro

[glossy sandal]

bored as hell

[abstract raft]

@glossy mica

[glossy mica]

literally look at the paragraph on the right

the left one doesnt prove your point

[abstract raft]

I see.

But this is a very long active debate.

[glossy mica]

no its not

its been solved

[glossy sandal]

you’re just wrong

[abstract raft]

@glossy mica There are more sources against ur opinion

[gloomy patrol]

same

abt to learn a whole sem of chem in a day !!

[glossy mica]

your wrist is not in a natural position when using a wrist rest

[gloomy patrol]

we out here

[abstract raft]

IT is

[glossy sandal]

Ah hell nah!!!

[glossy mica]

no its not

[glossy sandal]

Oh damn is this the Neely65XT guy

[glossy mica]

you want your wrists to be parallel with your arms

[gloomy patrol]

i still dont know hot to type properly

[glossy sandal]

nice board based layout

[abstract raft]

No

[glossy mica]

lol thanks

[gloomy patrol]

where did your xt phase go

go buy the ogr

[glossy sandal]

why not 60% though

ogr is still in mind

[glossy mica]

I like arrows

[glossy sandal]

series 6xx was also cool

[abstract raft]

Your wrists have to be parralel to your hand

[glossy sandal]

LeFishe was nice aswell

[gloomy patrol]

mf i swear you told me to shut up when i said ogr shuda been 60

[glossy sandal]

I lied

[gloomy patrol]

60 xt lwk >>

[glossy sandal]

Matching numpad for ogr was really nice I love the stickers on the bottom

huge ass boards, pen rails and fat cherry lips

[glossy mica]

when you're using a wrist rest its not

its sloped

floating your hands makes your entire arm and hand parallel

[gloomy patrol]

huge ahh cherry lip and pen rail always goes crazy

waht

i typed something and it was auto modded

[abstract raft]

That means ur wrist rest is too low

[gloomy patrol]

ion even know which word was the problem

[glossy mica]

the ogr is my favorite

[glossy mica]

just a bit spendy

and then I went and spent more on my board

[gloomy patrol]

i can see myself shelling out that much

its a v v pretty board

[glossy mica]

ye its nice

I was gonna get a pcb from them but it would've taken forever

so I had one designed

[gloomy patrol]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cn94f2qMPgb/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

www_pontus

First prototype finally finished. Join the discord for more details!

Instagram

found what i was looking for

still need to keep up with this

[glossy mica]

oh yeah pontus's board

[glossy sandal]

Such a nice layout

It’s reminiscent of an old cherry board, I forget which one

[glossy mica]

put this on it https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=120328.0#top

[glossy mica]

model F unsaver

or the model F

[gloomy patrol]

their new profile is .. interesting

still dk how i feel abt it

[glossy mica]

yeah me neither

seems to be very similar to xda

[gloomy patrol]

its unique i'll give them that

i see what they were going for

[urban panther]

posting this is against server rules and can get you a warning

[glossy sandal]

[urban panther]

i dont care but just trying to warn ya

[glossy sandal]

1984 jorjor well

[gloomy patrol]

damn

[blissful dragon]

literally 1984

[gloomy patrol]

whatd biggie get booted for again?

lux

hihihi

[glossy sandal]

He didn’t

[blissful dragon]

what

hi

[gloomy patrol]

was he not kicked from this place

or am i tripping

i thought he was muted or smt

[blissful dragon]

@wind socket

oh he is muted

[glossy sandal]

Lamou

[gloomy patrol]

@glossy sandal

hear me out

[glossy sandal]

What

[gloomy patrol]

relegendables on the 2 frows

[glossy sandal]

yikes

[gloomy patrol]

damn

[glossy sandal]

I would just put relegndables on the XT column

about it

[gloomy patrol]

where do you think i am supposed to find f13-24 again?

[glossy sandal]

F24 keys are too good

[gloomy patrol]

yk what jingle might have soom

[glossy sandal]

Vint stuff afaik

dunno any modern set that does em

[gloomy patrol]

thats why my second thought was relegenables

first was hitting up jingle for vint info

[glossy sandal]

why’re you gonna use a modern set on a vint inspired board hmmmmmmmm….???

[gloomy patrol]

if i can find the vint stuff i'll use it

this is j if i cant

[glossy sandal]

[glass jolt]

Is this a good drop in RP2040 replacement for a pro micro? With a compatible pin out for supplying the 5v to rgb? I'm trying to find one that doesn't cost 2x more than the boards for shipping (USA, Cali)
SparkFun Pro Micro - RP2040
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/18288

[simple flax]

😎

[simple flax]

Live view through this mf peephole

[junior condor]

Is it safe to put masking tape on the pcb of a keyboard with batteries

[amber tartan]

yes

[chrome raft]

what do you guys think of my keyboard?

[amber tartan]

meh

[candid plank]

China

[chrome raft]

yes🤑

I was trying to bait

y'all didn't fall for it

[glossy sandal]

bro go to bed 💀

[chrome raft]

why

😹

my mouse's better

[manic thorn]

best head clicker on the market

[muted karma]

I mean

shape wise could be alright

most modern gaming mice have shapes derived from mice from the late 90s or early 2000s

(in most cases microsoft)

[silk goblet]

Is the Skyloong SK61 worth buying?

[viscid tapir]

does it have a ball

probably laser right

[chrome raft]

do somebody knows where I can get a moonsgeek m2 ? when I search it I only get reddit with people saying how they liked it

[muted karma]

I mean you can see the laser shining between the buttons

short google search says it is a mitsumi S6702, which is a laser mouse

[chrome raft]

I mean, laser is not exactly a new technology

[muted karma]

never claimed it to be

looks/feature wise I would guess it is from the early 2000s

[chrome raft]

I know, i'm just saying that it's going to be hard to find a ball mouse today, for cheaper than a laser mouse, (wich is probably the reason somebody would want one)

[muted karma]

just get an old logitech pilot mouse

there are a lot of ball variants out there

idk why you would want to go with a ball outside nostalgia

they just are a lot of hassle

[chrome raft]

even there, they are between 10 and 1k (if they are in a sealed box) and amazon will hapily sell you a craptastic (but probably better because doesn't have decades of button mashing and gross stuff in it) amazon bassic mouse for 9$

[muted karma]

bruh

they are not 1k

[chrome raft]

or some suspicious 1ct mouses+

[chrome raft]

they are maybe a hundred dollars if it's an old one in a sealed box has I said, but still

[muted karma]

maybe if you look for one that expensive

very quick search in a local marketplace

somebody got multiple microsoft serial mouse 2.0As

for 29€ each

all NOS

[muted karma]

middle one is laser

[dusk comet]

Anyone have any recommendations for a relatively cheap numpad?

Like $15-$30 I was thinking

[median slate]

You want sub or like Bluetooth?

Usb*

[dusk comet]

Whichever

All my stuff is wired so I wouldn’t mind one more

[median slate]

Where is your preferred place of purchase

Amazon, eBay, aliexpress etc

[median slate]

Where would you like to buy from?

[dusk comet]

I would have preferred to buy one at Best Buy, but the store didn’t have one

So I dunno, I’ve bought stuff from Newegg and Amazon before

[median slate]

Well, take your pick

[dusk comet]

Newegg?

[median slate]

Alr

[median slate]

Do you want it to be a mechanical one, or do you just want a numpad

[dusk comet]

Mechanical would be preferred, but not necessary

[median slate]

Kk

https://www.newegg.com/p/0GA-02TE-00036

[dusk comet]

I’d just be using it for basic calculations and logins, so don’t need fancy

[median slate]

I think that is what you are looking for

[dusk comet]

Yeah that looks nice!

[median slate]

Gotchu

[glossy sandal]

[median slate]

[glossy sandal]

here’s another, https://www.amazon.com/Womier-Mechanical-Backlight-Computer-Switches/dp/B0B4687ZSB?th=1&psc=1

[median slate]

Bouta get a numpad with blues

My stabs arrive today :D

But I accidentally ordered 7u stabs D:

[glossy sandal]

rip

[dusk comet]

Ooh that one is usb C 👀

[median slate]

Is it possible to use 205g0 on stabs?

[glossy mica]

ofc

its one of the best for stabs

[median slate]

Gtk

[viscid tapir]

it was a joke

by the way

[chrome raft]

yes

[amber tartan]

not really, you can use it for stabs but its far from the best

[glossy mica]

"one of"

I use it for all my stabs

[amber tartan]

not really one of the best

[glossy mica]

lmao thats just wrong

name 3 lubes that are better

[amber tartan]

id say arguably superlube is better since its a lot thicker

XHT-BDZ is the best

though super pricy

usually for commissioned boards only

theres also Carbon GS2

usually mixed with XHT

[glossy mica]

its literally all the same just get good stabs

[amber tartan]

why not just use vaseline

[glossy mica]

I cant bruh

just get owlstabs, staebies, or tx and any good lube will be fine

[arctic shuttle]

Homie, "why not use Vaseline" not even in the same category as stab lube

[glossy sandal]

exaggerating to make a point

[amber tartan]

^

[arctic shuttle]

Idk man, someone's gonna use it in here

[glossy sandal]

worse has happened

[amber tartan]

gas look its happening!!!!

[glossy sandal]

xie xie

[arctic shuttle]

Oh you one of them Aussie fellers

[glossy sandal]

what colorway did you buy again?

[viscid tapir]

true but that means you have to buy whole new lube just for stabs

[glossy sandal]

nightpie is from hk iirc

just moved to AU this year?

I don’t remember all the details

[viscid tapir]

a lot of people use 205 on stabs while bdz would be better but that means you have to buy whole new lube just for it

[arctic shuttle]

Honestly, dope

If you have good stabs, 205 is perfect

[glossy sandal]

idk about that

it’s fine if I have nothing else on hand but I tend to need to glob it on and reapply often

compared to something viscous like dielectric

[arctic shuttle]

Wait, are we talking about stabs or stab wire

[amber tartan]

hence why i said its usually for commissioned boards only

[arctic shuttle]

Stab wire is getting loctite

[amber tartan]

lilac grey, its from hk to aus

[arctic shuttle]

Lilac mmmmm

[viscid tapir]

some people buy it just for stabs

[amber tartan]

if you build a lot, i can see why youd buy it

[glossy sandal]

stab wire is a part of stabs.

[viscid tapir]

well it is more consistent for stabs and thicker but it does not make that much of a difference if i do it i rather do it correctly but buying this much grease for one board is mostly throwing money away

[arctic shuttle]

Ya but 2 different lubes

[amber tartan]

theres a lot of these specialized lubes for different parts of the boards

[arctic shuttle]

Ain't gonna lube my whole stab with dielectric

[viscid tapir]

imo 205 is also fine for tactile switches

if you do not lube too much

[arctic shuttle]

🥲

[amber tartan]

preference thing, it makes the switch a lot more muted compared to tribo

[arctic shuttle]

Makes it feel sticky too

[viscid tapir]

true i do not really care about the sound i care about feel so it is pretty subjective some people are very triggered by that

[amber tartan]

not an "optimized" lube for tacts but its usable

[viscid tapir]

well buying 3 different lubes is a lot of money

some people also argue 03 and 04 for tactile switches

[amber tartan]

when you build boards for your job, its a relatively small price

[viscid tapir]

which barely makes a lot of difference that would require discussion

what do you mean job

[amber tartan]

building boards for money?

[arctic shuttle]

Even if you aren't building every day, buy the lube once, won't go through it quickly, will have it for a while

[viscid tapir]

why would you build for money

[amber tartan]

why wouldn't you build for money

[viscid tapir]

i guess if it is market for it

idk if market is that big

[amber tartan]

theres so many build services

its pretty big

[viscid tapir]

yes but far overpriced

i would lube 90 switches for 10 eur